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Toronto R2: Simon defeats [1] Federer 2-6 7-5 6-4

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groundstroke
07-24-2008, 01:39 AM
Federer's first serve wasn't very good today, Simon played well but nothing exceptional. Toronto courts are super slow.

eck
07-24-2008, 01:40 AM
Challenges galore :rolls:

federernadalfan
07-24-2008, 01:40 AM
Giles SImon beats Roger Federer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW! Gotta be the second biggest upset of the year!

finishingmove
07-24-2008, 01:40 AM
roflmao

Viken01
07-24-2008, 01:40 AM
the king is dead, long live the king

NinaNina19
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
Federer :sobbing: .

camnation
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
:eek:

scoobs
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
Well done Gilles.

Federer.

Awful.

ReturnWinner
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
Cañas,Nadal,Murray and now Simon who is next ? Ferrer :tape:?

hablovah19
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
What's going on, Roger ? :shrug::bigcry:

Tzar
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
:)

The Freak
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
Wow...just wow...nobody can beat Simon :lol:

Flibbertigibbet
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
finished.

arm
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
:eek: I knew it wasn't going to be easy for Fed, but I never expected this result. :shrug:

Very well done, Simon :yeah:

Federer :hug::hug:

groundstroke
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
Federer's forehand was awful today.. what the hell happened to it? While his backhand magically regained some topspin power to it.

DustMan
07-24-2008, 01:41 AM
i refreshed just as the matched finished to see which one of you losers had to get the first topic

VamosNyC
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
Well done Simon.
Fed looked sharp early on but Simon was just so solid and moved like a bullet

elessar
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
Most awfullest loss of his career seriously. No words for how bad he was tonight. Well actually there are : he lost to Simon.

Voo de Mar
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
Sick of death this Federer... Simon-Acasuso -> funny 3rd round match :yeah:

GlennMirnyi
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
One of the most pathetic displays ever in the history of the sport.

Frauderer.

51 UEs... ridiculous.

marcRD
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
I think Federer needs a psychologist after wimbledon.

Svetlana.
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
Who is Mr. Simon? I love him :devil:

Chrisilson
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
Federer was a complete mess today. His serve and groundstrokes were all over the place. He kept have complete mental crashes and dropping his serve 0-40.

Horrible Roger, need to sort it out

jpatatsos
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
what are u thoughts on the match?

RafaTheBest
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
HAHAHAHA! Federer is DONE. Best player in the world my ass. He might be #1 in the rankings but we all who the best player in the world is now!

wildegirl05
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
omg, CRAPTASTIC.

congrats simon :hug:

Andre♥
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
It looks like Federer is about to pull out an Henin and quit tennis alltogether.

It was the most effortless performance I've ever seen from a world number one. The last game showed it all. He doesn't want to be on a tennis court. All those missed forehands, lazy movement especially on his backhand side, everybody decent would have beaten him like Simon did.

I don't like Nadal at all, but I rather have someone with fighting spirit as number one than a guy who doesn't seem to want to play tennis right now.

danielmom
07-24-2008, 01:42 AM
OMG!!!! Kiss #1 goodbye Roger!!!!!!

Deivid23
07-24-2008, 01:43 AM
:haha:

ReturnWinner
07-24-2008, 01:43 AM
well first round and first match after his painful loss in Wimbledon against Nadal and he faced a tricky player who came with great confidence. Simon took care very well of this great chance.

Regenbogen
07-24-2008, 01:43 AM
I didn't want this to happen but it's still so funny :haha:

Fed :help:

FERLKE
07-24-2008, 01:43 AM
:eek:

Vamosssssssssssssssssss!!!

:devil:

:woohoo:

Sunset of Age
07-24-2008, 01:43 AM
Well done, Simon! :hatoff:

Roger, I still love you. But take time off, get yourself together again, make a lot of babies with Mirka, and please, please return to the scene when you are ready for it, okay??? :mad:

EIDT: have fun, you haters. Enjoy yourselves, here.

schorsch
07-24-2008, 01:43 AM
UHM... i dont like faterer one bit ... i really dont... but even i have to say i feel a bit sorry for him atm... but not as sorry as he feels for himself probably...

FATERER STOP SELF-PITTYING YOURSELF AND FUCKIN' EXECUTE ON THE COURT. DEAR GOD. UNBELIEVABLE.

habibko
07-24-2008, 01:43 AM
are you kidding me? well I must say Simon didn't win this but Roger lost it, oh well it happens, could Fed lose the 1st spot now? :sad:

maf
07-24-2008, 01:43 AM
This Federer has a great forehand.

Well done Gilles, did what he had to do. Three thumbs down to the lines people.

Yappa
07-24-2008, 01:43 AM
Oops, guess I am too late to watch the end of the match.

Tankman
07-24-2008, 01:44 AM
:eek:

unbelievable....

the king is dead, long live the king

indeed... in all seriousness, if he fails to win the USO, the king really is dead - or he'll never be the same again at the very least

groundstroke
07-24-2008, 01:44 AM
Good to see Federer losing like this, hopefully it'll get some drive and determination back into him. He was very lazy today.

RagingLamb
07-24-2008, 01:44 AM
Nicely done Simon.

terrible by Fed. get yourself together man!!

Smoke944
07-24-2008, 01:44 AM
Damnit Gonzo, this would be an easy path to the QFs, oh well...:o
Anyway who has the best fh in the world now? It sure as hell isn't Fed after this disgusting display...
Seriously this performance, wow :eek:

LinkMage
07-24-2008, 01:44 AM
51 UEs from Fedmug. :o


Incredible how much trouble he has with pushers.

Fabio83
07-24-2008, 01:44 AM
LOL @ Simon haters :devil:

Federer is dead, take that "(1)" off him right now.

Congrats Rafa for the guaranteed number 1 spot after the US Open

fast_clay
07-24-2008, 01:45 AM
game over... fresh off a tourney win, this 'pusher' gave federer nothing...

wow...

thats a proper slump...

selyoink
07-24-2008, 01:45 AM
Its all over for Federer. Looks like Djokovic will be the overwhelming favorite for the US Open.

hablovah19
07-24-2008, 01:45 AM
One of the most pathetic displays ever in the history of the sport.

Frauderer.

51 UEs... ridiculous.

So embarrassing, Roger. Get it together soon !

Fee
07-24-2008, 01:45 AM
Well, that was rubbish. He needs to go to LA, spend some time with Pete, and learn the meaning of the word 'comeback'. Something is really wrong with him, that was horrible.

RogerFan82
07-24-2008, 01:45 AM
Fed will win cincy next week.

ChinoRios4Ever
07-24-2008, 01:46 AM
A "Mug pusher" beats the "GOAT"

Glenn Mirnyi is right, tennis is dead.

federernadalfan
07-24-2008, 01:46 AM
this sums up the match:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Nidhogg
07-24-2008, 01:46 AM
Comedy. Federer looked incredibly sloppy and casual. Credit to Simon for performing close to his own standards, though.

GlennMirnyi
07-24-2008, 01:46 AM
Well, that was rubbish. He needs to go to LA, spend some time with Pete, and learn the meaning of the word 'comeback'. Something is really wrong with him, that was horrible.

Exactly. I've been calling on this for a good time now. Sampras is the only one that can help Frauderer right now.

groundstroke
07-24-2008, 01:46 AM
So embarrassing, Roger. Get it together soon !
It's embarrassing that you support Mauresmo. Only French women to win a Grand Slam by her opponent retiring. :lol:

SheepleBuster
07-24-2008, 01:46 AM
Poor Federer. He can't catch a break. The first thing that goes when you lose your favorite tournament is your confidence. I think unlike what people say about Federer, his game really depends on his confidence. That's a part why he can't think when he faces Nadal. But forget Nadal. Roger needs to find ways to beat Fishes and Simons of this world. It seems Roger will be Grandslam less this year.

Andre♥
07-24-2008, 01:46 AM
Anyway who has the best fh in the world now? It sure as hell isn't Fed after this disgusting display...

According to Roddick, it's Verdasco! :p :lol:

Richardgm
07-24-2008, 01:47 AM
This a fuckin joke?

Albop
07-24-2008, 01:47 AM
Pathetic, nothing else to add.


Congrats rafa.

prima donna
07-24-2008, 01:47 AM
Inexplicable.

Andre♥
07-24-2008, 01:48 AM
Exactly. I've been calling on this for a good time now. Sampras is the only one that can help Frauderer right now.

How? Sampras would humiliate Frauderer on a tennis match right now, putting his confidence even lower! :lol:

Denaon
07-24-2008, 01:48 AM
:eek: come on!

tennizen
07-24-2008, 01:48 AM
I am not a Fed fan but I am terribly upset with this loss. How could he lose like this:mad:

Voo de Mar
07-24-2008, 01:48 AM
Federer had break point at 3:1 and fucked up an easy return, then had another advantage of break at 4:3 :shrug: Amazing that he lost it, but his performence today was pathetic. Simon did only what he should, took advantage of Federer's bad day.

Albop
07-24-2008, 01:48 AM
Fed will win cincy next week.

No fucking way.

Jaz
07-24-2008, 01:48 AM
One of the poorest matches played by Federer is a long long time. I think he needs to take a year out or simply retire. It was a disgrace.

GlennMirnyi
07-24-2008, 01:48 AM
How? Sampras would humiliate Frauderer on a tennis match right now, putting his confidence even lower! :lol:

Sampras was much stronger mentally and he could teach Frauderer a thing or two. ;)

Tutu
07-24-2008, 01:48 AM
CaŮas,Nadal,Murray and now Simon who is next ? Ferrer :tape:?

What about Fish? :help:

It looks like Federer is about to pull out an Henin and quit tennis alltogether.

It was the most effortless performance I've ever seen from a world number one. The last game showed it all. He doesn't want to be on a tennis court. All those missed forehands, lazy movement especially on his backhand side, everybody decent would have beaten him like Simon did.

I don't like Nadal at all, but I rather have someone with fighting spirit as number one than a guy who doesn't seem to want to play tennis right now.
Yeah. Although I think Federer is in a much worse position than Henin was... Henin was still like 2000+ points in front of Ivanovic when she retired.. If she hadn't requested her ranking to be removed and had played no tournies she would still be no.1. :lol:
Most awfullest loss of his career seriously. No words for how bad he was tonight. Well actually there are : he lost to Simon.
Umm maybe I dreamed that he was battered by Fish this year? :scratch:

platinum
07-24-2008, 01:49 AM
Roger will NOT win the USO. Period.

RogiRafaFan86
07-24-2008, 01:49 AM
Dedicated to all the Fedtards who gave Rafa shit for a 2nd round match that he won.

Anyway, that was kinda painful. At least the last 2 sets were, mainly the 3rd. Roger couldn't do a whole hell of a lot right. Oh well, hopefully he can regroup and have a better showing in Cincy.

Or Levy
07-24-2008, 01:49 AM
This hurts.

He started well, but he's mentally all over the place. I guess Wimby is going to take some time to recover from. He played some fantastic return games, but his serve and forehand...

Oh, Rogi. This is goodbye to your number 1 ranking.

scoobs
07-24-2008, 01:49 AM
Appalling.

Just diabolical.

Simon took the chance he had, well done to him.

Roger can't wait to dump the #1 ranking it seems. There's 350 points down the swanny already.

Albop
07-24-2008, 01:49 AM
Gonzo :smash:, what a wasted chance :o

Can nadal be number 1 at cincy?

tangerine_dream
07-24-2008, 01:49 AM
http://i37.tinypic.com/2po5e74.jpg

Yep.

pkubik
07-24-2008, 01:50 AM
Expected, Simon in his best form and full of confidance - Federer in poor form with lack of confidence...

freesprint
07-24-2008, 01:50 AM
so sad :sad:

Andre♥
07-24-2008, 01:50 AM
Sampras was much stronger mentally and he could teach Frauderer a thing or two. ;)

Sampras was a genius when it came to close matches and to play ugly and still win.

That's actually the main difference between the two players. That and Sampras not being a fraud! :p

Lucinda
07-24-2008, 01:50 AM
Federer looked terrible the whole time. You could see his mental stability slipping away as the match wore on. Oh well, I like Simon as a player so I'm happy for him - great win for him. I bet Rafa is shitting himself.

MyPrecious
07-24-2008, 01:51 AM
Fed...WTF :confused: :eek:

I will think long, and hard before I ever again bet my hard earned Vcash on him :devil:

GlennMirnyi
07-24-2008, 01:51 AM
Sampras was a genius when it came to close matches and to play ugly and still win.

That's actually the main difference between the two players. That and Sampras not being a fraud! :p

Sampras never played ugly, are you crazy? :confused:

arm
07-24-2008, 01:51 AM
I am not a Fed fan but I am terribly upset with this loss. How could he lose like this:mad:

That's actually how I feel too. Normally I would be happy, can't see anyone stopping Nole from winning this again now. But strangely, I am kind of sad. :shrug:

Come on Federer we want to see 3 guys killing each other for the #1! :hug:

Tutu
07-24-2008, 01:51 AM
Oh, and ALLEZ GILLES!! :banana:

HoistDaColors
07-24-2008, 01:52 AM
I still can't believe SCRAWNY LEGS won. http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs21/f/2007/255/e/8/_wow__rvmp_by_bad_blood.gif

MacTheKnife
07-24-2008, 01:53 AM
Without question, the worst match I've ever seen Federer play. Credit to Simon, but Fed was awful, period. I don't think he'll recover from this till he loses the #1 spot and gets into next year. His confidence is completely gone.

the graduate
07-24-2008, 01:53 AM
Its time to find a coach,drop Mirka travel alone this broad is like an albatross get rid of her.This is the work of voodoo priestess Dijana Djokovic.:devil:

Andre♥
07-24-2008, 01:53 AM
Sampras never played ugly, are you crazy? :confused:

Ugly in terms of not playing his best. Everybody has bad days and Sampras was still capable of winning, while not having a great performance. That was what I meant to say.

Havok
07-24-2008, 01:53 AM
I think I'm in love with this Federer!:hearts:

Stgobaiano
07-24-2008, 01:53 AM
Great day for the tennis. Frauderer:worship:


Go Rafa;)


Go with Fat Miroslava and buy a CASKET you moron

prima donna
07-24-2008, 01:54 AM
Exactly. I've been calling on this for a good time now. Sampras is the only one that can help Frauderer right now.
Being forced to watch these types of matches brings an entirely new level of respect to Pete Sampras both as a tennis player and as a champion.

Roger still has the tennis to win these tournaments, but the missing ingredient is that champion's mentality and if he isn't able to recapture it things will only continue in this pattern of downward spiral.

Anyway, who are we kidding -- as if winning Toronto, Cincy or the Olympics would matter to him at this stage, his primary focus has to be winning a Grand Slam, everything else seems to be of relatively little importance.

It's really quite a pitiful sight to behold.

Albop
07-24-2008, 01:54 AM
That fish loss is nothing compared to this.

betowiec
07-24-2008, 01:54 AM
roger is getting old

Spes
07-24-2008, 01:54 AM
:bigwave: See you Roger.

Stgobaiano
07-24-2008, 01:54 AM
Ugly in terms of not playing his best. Everybody has bad days and Sampras was still capable of winning, while not having a great performance. That was what I meant to say.


Sampras is way better than Frauderer. They can`t be compared.

dylan24
07-24-2008, 01:54 AM
retire from tennis.
roger. you are now a fucking joke.
nadal has crushed the swiss miss for good.

maconick
07-24-2008, 01:55 AM
lol monofed is back

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 01:55 AM
Tennis won again today :D

Federer and his tards are done. :D

2008 is a great year for tennis. :D

*Viva Chile*
07-24-2008, 01:55 AM
good tank for the olympics, Roger :ras:

Sunset of Age
07-24-2008, 01:55 AM
Without question, the worst match I've ever seen Federer play. Credit to Simon, but Fed was awful, period. I don't think he'll recover from this till he loses the #1 spot and gets into next year. His confidence is completely gone.

Yep, that sums it up pretty well indeed.
Fed needs someone to support him on the mental part of his game a lot right now. Nothing else to be said.

Hugh Jaas
07-24-2008, 01:55 AM
Rafa number 1 before the Olympics? epic

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 01:56 AM
retire from tennis.
roger. you are now a fucking joke.
nadal has crushed the swiss miss for good.

Now the whole ATP tour sees what a pansy Fed is.

Sheva
07-24-2008, 01:56 AM
Fed's forehand is gone..

Fee
07-24-2008, 01:56 AM
Sampras was a genius when it came to close matches and to play ugly and still win.

That's actually the main difference between the two players. That and Sampras not being a fraud! :p

But Sampras had a very bad year and everybody was writing him off, but he came back, got his number one ranking back, won more slams, broke the record, etc, etc, etc. This is how Pete can help Roger, by giving him the wisdom of his experience. He is the only person that can.

But Roger will probably have to help him move a few boxes in return, apparently Pete is getting new digs in LA.

Lopaka
07-24-2008, 01:56 AM
Well done Simon!:bounce: (I should have bet more V-credits.)

Roger had no consistency. Wimbledon must have really unsettled him.

finishingmove
07-24-2008, 01:57 AM
Rafa number 1 before the Olympics? epic

no because it will be calculated later

Guy Haines
07-24-2008, 01:57 AM
Believe it, people.

A few of us knew he could do it.

Federer is obviously still hurting. His serve percentage was abysmal, for a start.

But that takes nothing away from Gilles. He brought a winning streak into this match and was playing on a big stage, and whenever the going got tough, it was Gilles, not Federer, who played to win.

Gilles: :hearts::kiss::hatoff:

Still the leader of the US Open series. :lol:

bavaria100
07-24-2008, 01:57 AM
Federer's days as the number 1 player in the world are over. His performance was absolutely awful and now worthy of his ranking.

Kolya
07-24-2008, 01:58 AM
Federer's downfall continues...

Allez Simon :yeah:

Hugh Jaas
07-24-2008, 01:58 AM
Rafa number 1 before the Olympics? epic

no because it will be calculated later


huh. Beijing is weeks away and rafa has almost zero points to defend next week.


RAFZILLA the King is the REAL number 1

Merton
07-24-2008, 01:58 AM
A total horror show after the 1st set, I don't care about the #1 ranking or winning this tournament but Roger should not lose against Simon.

Jaz
07-24-2008, 01:58 AM
Forehand was poor poor poor.
First serve non-existant...

Just what is going through his head?

dsingh7
07-24-2008, 01:59 AM
what the heck is wrong with you Fed..why you are in hurry to award #1 to Rafa.get your confidence back..

moon language
07-24-2008, 01:59 AM
It's melancholy to see the shine come off the greats as they age.

Guy Haines
07-24-2008, 02:00 AM
One of the most pathetic displays ever in the history of the sport.

Frauderer.

51 UEs... ridiculous.

This match is only very very partly dedicated to you. :wavey:

osalsyst
07-24-2008, 02:00 AM
Roger, you are pathetic! 3-1 with a load of bps (One of them an easy volley). Then 4-3. Just awful! It's so bad that I'm laughing hysterically.

LefandePatty
07-24-2008, 02:01 AM
Roger was TERRIBLE:help:

BigJohn
07-24-2008, 02:01 AM
This one was not pretty to watch. But he'll bounce back.

marcRD
07-24-2008, 02:01 AM
It was not that his game was terrible, most of the times he played quite good. Then suddenly he would fall into lapses playing absolutely awful tennis without any mental strength at all. He lost his serve 3 times i think at love playing absolutely horrible tennis. There was a game at 3-3 in the 3rd set that Federer played absolutely brilliant tennis and then he just fell apart mentaly. It is sad to see Federer get into this emotional states after the Wimbledon loss I said he needed a psychologist. Federer is just too human mentaly and not a mental giant like Sampras, or even Nadal and Djokovic. These where champions at birth, Federer is too emotional, he needs help when things go wrong like after the wimbledon final.

Jaz
07-24-2008, 02:02 AM
This one was not pretty to watch. But he'll bounce back.

I thought that after French, then Wimbledon... Lets get back to reality, there is no boucing back anytime soon.

Stefwhit
07-24-2008, 02:02 AM
So 2008 continues to intrigue and deliver. I've never enjoyed mens tennis more than I have this year with all its twists, turns, and unpredictable matches. This is what it's all about, the days of guaranteed wins are a thing of the past. Mens tennis is thriving right now, this is the Golden Age!!!

I'm not foolish enough to count Fed out, but he's gonna have to fight for it in ways he hasn't had to his entire career. I can't wait to see how this years tennis saga will unfold.

LinkMage
07-24-2008, 02:02 AM
Exactly. I've been calling on this for a good time now. Sampras is the only one that can help Frauderer right now.



Sampras is the one who fucked up Federer. Federer has never been the same after practising with Sampras before Indian Wells in 2007.

Caralimon
07-24-2008, 02:03 AM
Great win Gilles, now he should be able to dispatch Acasuso

Keep it going

Hugh Jaas
07-24-2008, 02:03 AM
what the heck is wrong with you Fed..why you are in hurry to award #1 to Rafa.get your confidence back..

He SHOULD be worrying about losing the #2 position to the joker if he has another early exit.

Guy Haines
07-24-2008, 02:03 AM
It's embarrassing that you support Mauresmo. Only French women to win a Grand Slam by her opponent retiring. :lol:

More genius logic from you. The player in that situation who should still be embarassed is My Tummy Hurts Henin-Hardenne.

Especially since Amelie won Wimbledon that year over Henin, denying her the slam she always wanted.

Perfection
07-24-2008, 02:04 AM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Mug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaaaahahahahahaha

finishingmove
07-24-2008, 02:05 AM
"Gilles the giant killer" :rolls:

Fee
07-24-2008, 02:06 AM
Maybe it'll do Roger some good to move those boxes. Daniel-san learned how to deflect blows by waxing Mr. Miyagi's cars and painting his fence. :shrug:

Box in... box out...

Guy Haines
07-24-2008, 02:06 AM
Inexplicable.

Surely somehow you can wrap your vast mental powers around this fact. :o

the graduate
07-24-2008, 02:07 AM
no more ballerina Rodger back to Roche,please rehire Roche:sad:

Allstar
07-24-2008, 02:07 AM
I just cant understand how he can be broke to love twice, 15 once and 30 once? in 6 service games

Horrid tennis

shotgun
07-24-2008, 02:08 AM
:eek: Shocking

Congrats to Simon.

Federer is a strong contender for Cincinatti, because whoever does well here, tends to tank there. But it's becoming harder to see him winning the US Open at this rate. The guy has been losing so often it's not even funny anymore.

GlennMirnyi
07-24-2008, 02:08 AM
Ugly in terms of not playing his best. Everybody has bad days and Sampras was still capable of winning, while not having a great performance. That was what I meant to say.

That's true.

Being forced to watch these types of matches brings an entirely new level of respect to Pete Sampras both as a tennis player and as a champion.

Roger still has the tennis to win these tournaments, but the missing ingredient is that champion's mentality and if he isn't able to recapture it things will only continue in this pattern of downward spiral.

Anyway, who are we kidding -- as if winning Toronto, Cincy or the Olympics would matter to him at this stage, his primary focus has to be winning a Grand Slam, everything else seems to be of relatively little importance.

It's really quite a pitiful sight to behold.

Frauderer can only win when he's playing well, that's pitiful.

But Sampras had a very bad year and everybody was writing him off, but he came back, got his number one ranking back, won more slams, broke the record, etc, etc, etc. This is how Pete can help Roger, by giving him the wisdom of his experience. He is the only person that can.

But Roger will probably have to help him move a few boxes in return, apparently Pete is getting new digs in LA.

Sampras can teach Frauderer how to play like a champion every match.

This match is only very very partly dedicated to you. :wavey:

I'll dedicated Acasuso's win to you, fangirl.

Sampras is the one who fucked up Federer. Federer has never been the same after practising with Sampras before Indian Wells in 2007.

Bullshit.

SheepleBuster
07-24-2008, 02:09 AM
Well. I used to be a Fed Fanatic. I used to think everything he touched was gold. It was tough for me to accept his losses, and always came up with excuses and this and that. But this sort of relationship with someone you don't even know is not healthy. So I want to thank Roger for freeing me. Now I can move on and watch tennis and enjoy it and don't worry about every shank that Roger makes. Roger losing is as normal as Roddick losing now (though honestly Roddick loses a lot). If Roger continues his slide, I am sure he will stop playing. It's a big if but I just can't see him playing to lose in 2nd and third rounds. Now many of you are asking what's the worst that can happen to Roger? Simple. Losing the first or 2nd round at a Grand Slam. It will happen someday but it could be closer than you think depending on his draw.

Lee
07-24-2008, 02:10 AM
What a terrible match by Federer!

But it's too early to count him out for the rest of the hardcourt season.

platinum
07-24-2008, 02:12 AM
Now the whole ATP tour sees what a pansy Fed is.

Not even the friggin' strawberry shortcake draws are good enough anymore for Fed.... Notice all the talented youngsters like Nole, Murray and Gasquet are in Rafa's half of the draw. They toss the washed ups in Roger's half of the draw.... :o

yonexforever
07-24-2008, 02:13 AM
That gut Federer is carrying around is not helping either!

BigJohn
07-24-2008, 02:13 AM
I thought that after French, then Wimbledon... Lets get back to reality, there is no boucing back anytime soon.

If you don't consider Fed's Wimbledon as bouncing back from RG, you're difficult to please.

Stefwhit
07-24-2008, 02:13 AM
^not likely. If you notice he started losing a lot more often when the ATP switched to 2 out of 3. Fed struggles in the format and if you're going to beat him, you've got a better chance of doing it by winning two sets. In a a best of 5 set he has time to recover and his opponents have time to doubt themselves.

I don't see Roger losing in the first weeks of majors even on a bad day. Are the Olympics best of 5?

Jaz
07-24-2008, 02:15 AM
If you don't consider Fed's Wimbledon as bouncing back from RG, you're difficult to please.

I always expected him to lose at RG, Wimbledon I did not.

Albop
07-24-2008, 02:15 AM
^not likely. If you notice he started losing a lot more often when the ATP switched to 2 out of 3. Fed struggles in the format and if you're going to beat him, you've got a better chance of doing it by winning two sets. In a a best of 5 set he has time to recover and his opponents have time to doubt themselves.

I don't see Roger losing in the first weeks of majors even on a bad day. Are the Olympics best of 5?

Best of 3, final best of 5?

littleash
07-24-2008, 02:15 AM
roger :sad:

Or Levy
07-24-2008, 02:16 AM
Well. I used to be a Fed Fanatic. I used to think everything he touched was gold. It was tough for me to accept his losses, and always came up with excuses and this and that. But this sort of relationship with someone you don't even know is not healthy. So I want to thank Roger for freeing me. Now I can move on and watch tennis and enjoy it and don't worry about every shank that Roger makes. Roger losing is as normal as Roddick losing now (though honestly Roddick loses a lot). If Roger continues his slide, I am sure he will stop playing. It's a big if but I just can't see him playing to lose in 2nd and third rounds. Now many of you are asking what's the worst that can happen to Roger? Simple. Losing the first or 2nd round at a Grand Slam. It will happen someday but it could be closer than you think depending on his draw.


Come on. Roger got the finals of Wimby, the Frech, MC, Hamburg and won Halle.

It is obvious that all of his shots are still there, but his confidence is shot to hell. That's what he has to work on.

RagingLamb
07-24-2008, 02:16 AM
Sampras can teach Frauderer how to play like a champion every match.

the Sampras heart and mentality isn't something that can be taught.

but this is new territory for Roger. We don't know how he's going to react to his declining self.

He may dig deep and show us what his really made of now that the cloak of invincibility is slowly fading. Or he may continue on this path.

Either way, we're going to see what he's really made of.

tae04
07-24-2008, 02:16 AM
:lol:

Federer is so horrible this year. How is he still number 1 LOL. I thought he was about to win the 2nd set easy, I come back and see he lost LOL

Lee
07-24-2008, 02:17 AM
Ugly in terms of not playing his best. Everybody has bad days and Sampras was still capable of winning, while not having a great performance. That was what I meant to say.

I believe Fed used to do that too.

MyPrecious
07-24-2008, 02:18 AM
That gut Federer is carrying around is not helping either!

Must be Mirka's home cooking ;)

Seriously, I haven't noticed a big weight gain :confused:

GlennMirnyi
07-24-2008, 02:18 AM
the Sampras heart and mentality isn't something that can be taught.

but this is new territory for Roger. We don't know how he's going to react to his declining self.

He may dig deep and show us what his really made of now that the cloak of invincibility is slowly fading. Or he may continue on this path.

Either way, we're going to see what he's really made of.

Sampras is the only player that Frauderer can still listen to, because his coaches today are worthless.

He has already shown, embarassing himself in Wimbledon.

Zolka
07-24-2008, 02:18 AM
Don't know what to say about Roger. He is a shell of himself, and played horrible after the first set, but i still cannot see the end of his success. End of dominance, sure, but he will win a couple more slams, and those will be even sweeter for us (Roger fans) and for him as well, and much much much bitter for the haters like Rafa = Fed Killa, because they think he is done, and they think they don't have to see him lifting throphies anymore... But you'll have to... By the way, Rafa = Fed Killa, i have to congratulate you, you're really the number one idiot here, and boy, that is quite something! Have a nice day guys, Roger fans, keep the faith. :)

fast_clay
07-24-2008, 02:18 AM
federer needs to learn to win when he is not playing well...

i really think he needs to hire brad gilbert...






no no... not as a coach...

he needs to hire gilbert to play his matches for him at this rate...

Mimi
07-24-2008, 02:19 AM
i can't believe this, roger was winning 6:2 in the first set before i left home for work :confused::eek::o

MacTheKnife
07-24-2008, 02:19 AM
At least we know what match they'll be showing during every rain delay the rest of the week.

As for Fed, his only hope (IMO) is to drop in the rankings and go into some matches at the underdog. That hasn't happened for 5 years and it's the only shot at Pete's record, which I think is now safe.. Having said that, Pete won his last three slams after the entire tennis world had written him off, so who knows.

bad gambler
07-24-2008, 02:19 AM
Roger :o

Good luck in Cincy

RagingLamb
07-24-2008, 02:20 AM
Sampras is the only player that Frauderer can still listen to, because his coaches today are worthless.

He has already shown, embarassing himself in Wimbledon.

Pete may have some advice or soothing words for him, but ultimately he has to get out of this himself. No one can show him, or teach him how to do it.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 02:23 AM
Don't know what to say about Roger. He is a shell of himself, and played horrible after the first set, but i still cannot see the end of his success. End of dominance, sure, but he will win a couple more slams, and those will be even sweeter for us (Roger fans) and for him as well, and much much much bitter for the haters like Rafa = Fed Killa, because they think he is done, and they think they don't have to see him lifting throphies anymore... But you'll have to... By the way, Rafa = Fed Killa, i have to congratulate you, you're really the number one idiot here, and boy, that is quite something! Have a nice day guys, Roger fans, keep the faith. :)

Does baby need a tissue.

Federer is too much of a pansy to win against fighters and spartans. This is a new age of tennis where the new generation fights and all Federer can do is hide in a corner crying like a little girl.

scoobs
07-24-2008, 02:24 AM
Either he works out what's going on and works out a way to fight back and restore the confidence in his own game that seems awol, or he'll slide into the pack and only produce good results every now and again, out of his control.

this is a different challenge to any he's faced so far in his career because the expectation the he has that he will do well seems to have gone from his game - he no longer seems to believe in what he's doing out there.

GlennMirnyi
07-24-2008, 02:24 AM
Pete may have some advice or soothing words for him, but ultimately he has to get out of this himself. No one can show him, or teach him how to do it.

Again, thing is Frauderer is too arrogant to listen to his coaches... Sampras is above him, so maybe he can listen to something.

federernadalfan
07-24-2008, 02:24 AM
very disappointing from roger to say the least.
i think the deciding factor in the match was roger's confidence. As somebody before said, it seems like his confidence got shot after his loss at Wimbledon. He just needs to regain his confidence and his nerves and he will start to play better again. Hopefully.

Acer
07-24-2008, 02:25 AM
UE's GALORE from Federer. Sort it out Roger. QUICK.

Jaz
07-24-2008, 02:26 AM
Ignoring the trolls. Sampras is useless to Federer.

Federer needs to go away and think about what the root cause of the poor forehand is (i.e attempting to force play).
Secondly, mentally he loses his serve straight after he wins a break. Same old pattern since AO08.

Tnn74
07-24-2008, 02:29 AM
Wow... way to go Gilles! :rocker2:

lurker
07-24-2008, 02:29 AM
That gut Federer is carrying around is not helping either!

:lol: I noticed this during clay court season too, either shirts are shrinking or too much food. Mirka, stop feeding him your bonbons! BTW, where was Mirka today?

As for Simon def. Federer today :eek: Jose Higueras, you are SO fired!

Jimnik
07-24-2008, 02:33 AM
Expected tank, to avoid losing to Roddick in the QF. ;)

But seriously, Federer is suffering from this Olympic year. He needed his usual four week gap after Wimby to reflect and recover. That plus Simon is clearly on fire right now.

I would still consider this a freak result. I want to see him lose in Cincy before concluding that he's definitely finished. The courts there are much faster so he should more within his comfort zone.

GugaF1
07-24-2008, 02:34 AM
How much BS in here, people just can't manage to keep a certain perspective on things. Ok, this was a real hard loss for Federer but, just because the guy lost on the first round of a Master Series. doesn't mean that his last 4 years of his career are erased from his resume. all of the sudden he is a poor bastard, nothing like a champion. Come on guys... keep some perspective please...

freeandlonely
07-24-2008, 02:37 AM
No...:sad:
I missed this match, don't know that's good or bad for me:sad:
What's going wrong...come back Roger...

RafaTheBest
07-24-2008, 02:39 AM
Tennis won again today :D

Federer and his tards are done. :D

2008 is a great year for tennis. :D

SPARTA tennis will soon gain the well earned #1 spot. Fed is dead.

VAAAAMOOOOOS!

Vida
07-24-2008, 02:41 AM
I cant believe this. Fed needs to sort some things out.

Which one? No idea.

GlennMirnyi
07-24-2008, 02:42 AM
How much BS in here, people just can't manage to keep a certain perspective on things. Ok, this was a real hard loss for Federer but, just because the guy lost on the first round of a Master Series. doesn't mean that his last 4 years of his career are erased from his resume. all of the sudden he is a poor bastard, nothing like a champion. Come on guys... keep some perspective please...

Second round, dyslexic.

Vida
07-24-2008, 02:43 AM
How much BS in here, people just can't manage to keep a certain perspective on things. Ok, this was a real hard loss for Federer but, just because the guy lost on the first round of a Master Series. doesn't mean that his last 4 years of his career are erased from his resume. all of the sudden he is a poor bastard, nothing like a champion. Come on guys... keep some perspective please...

Totally agree with your post here. Something like this was waiting to happen.

MusicMyst
07-24-2008, 02:47 AM
I blame the dead bird.

LLeytonRules
07-24-2008, 02:50 AM
If u asked me, its baffling how he looked so great in the first set and then he just crumbled mentally in the second set and the 3rd set.The media will soon start talking about his desire in tennis anymore.

I think Fed sometimes gets lazy and very stubborn for a player of his caliber.He needs to start working on some aspects of his game.

Lurker011
07-24-2008, 02:51 AM
federer is still heartbroken after wimbledon,but he will still win the us open. this is just a minor setback.

cobalt60
07-24-2008, 02:52 AM
:eek: I know some folks who will assume that they are his good luck charm :rolls:
:hatoff: to Gilles and :hug: to Fed fans

Zolka
07-24-2008, 02:53 AM
Does baby need a tissue.

Federer is too much of a pansy to win against fighters and spartans. This is a new age of tennis where the new generation fights and all Federer can do is hide in a corner crying like a little girl.

No, i'm fine, thanks, obviously dissapointed, but it happens, i'm a big sports fan. As for the "new generation, spartan tennis bs" goes, i'm speechless. :) You are a very frustrated tennis fan, those previous years of Roger's total domination didn't do anything good to your brain. You also have no class, you can still call Roger a pansy after the fight he put up against Rafa a couple of weeks ago.

I know it's totally useless to arguing with you, but i had to give it a try, i'm a dreamer. :) I wish you something, with the best intention. If Rafa wins this thing, or Cincy next week, and takes away the totally deserved number one spot, i wish you to enjoy that moment, just for a minute, without thinking of Roger Federer.

leng jai
07-24-2008, 02:53 AM
Simon is my new favourite player.

LLeytonRules
07-24-2008, 02:53 AM
I hope he wins the u.s open but this type of shitty play will get him ousted.We will see.Tennis is all mental and right now his mental edge has taken a slight hit.

GugaF1
07-24-2008, 02:54 AM
Second round, dyslexic.

555949494 round, mentally challenged. :banghead: Not trolling challenged at all, though. :yeah:

scoobs
07-24-2008, 02:54 AM
Simon is my new favourite player.
I knew you were a closet mug pusher lover :)

GlennMirnyi
07-24-2008, 02:54 AM
555949494 round, mentally challenged. :banghead: Not trolling challenged at all, though. :yeah:

:haha:

Owned.

:retard:

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 02:55 AM
SPARTA tennis will soon gain the well earned #1 spot. Fed is dead.

VAAAAMOOOOOS!

VAMOS SPARTA!

Sunset of Age
07-24-2008, 02:56 AM
SPARTA tennis will soon gain the well earned #1 spot. Fed is dead.

VAAAAMOOOOOS!

IQ = 30? :retard:

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 02:56 AM
No, i'm fine, thanks, obviously dissapointed, but it happens, i'm a big sports fan. As for the "new generation, spartan tennis bs" goes, i'm speechless. :) You are a very frustrated tennis fan, those previous years of Roger's total domination didn't do anything good to your brain. You also have no class, you can still call Roger a pansy after the fight he put up against Rafa a couple of weeks ago.

I know it's totally useless to arguing with you, but i had to give it a try, i'm a dreamer. :) I wish you something, with the best intention. If Rafa wins this thing, or Cincy next week, and takes away the totally deserved number one spot, i wish you to enjoy that moment, just for a minute, without thinking of Roger Federer.

Federer is too weak to win against a fighter or spartan as 2008 is showing.

Spartan tennis will soon be #1.

leng jai
07-24-2008, 02:57 AM
I knew you were a closet mug pusher lover :)

Never in doubt.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 02:57 AM
IQ = 30? :retard:

Fedtard IQ = 0

P.S. Dont throw bricks when you live in a glass house.

Sunset of Age
07-24-2008, 02:58 AM
Fedtard IQ = 0

P.S. Dont throw bricks when you live in a glass house.

Aren't you so happy now, R=FK? :p

bad gambler
07-24-2008, 02:58 AM
Federer is too weak to win against a fighter or spartan as 2008 is showing.

Spartan tennis will soon be #1.

Does Simple Simon get a membership to the Spartan family now?

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 02:59 AM
Aren't you so happy now, R=FK? :p

I am still happy from the Wimby final.
This is just icing on the cake.

Become a Nole/Rafa fan. Join the light ;)

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 02:59 AM
Does Simple Simon get a membership to the Spartan family now?

He already has.

Spartan Simon is a fighter who never gives up and never surrenders.

leng jai
07-24-2008, 03:00 AM
I am still happy from the Wimby final.
This is just icing on the cake.

Become a Nole/Rafa fan. Join the light ;)

Is it too late for me? :sad:

TankingTheSet
07-24-2008, 03:00 AM
I noticed almost everyone on this thread says "Fed played horrible", "horrible loss" etc.
I watched the match and although Federer didn't play at his best and seemed to be choking on the big points (not saving breakpoints), he would still have won against most players in the draw.

Simon played flawlessly, got everything back, even took control of the rallies at times. The errors that Federer made were very for a big part due to Simon's level of play. It was a pretty high quality match.

lurker
07-24-2008, 03:01 AM
Tennis is all mental and right now his mental edge has taken a slight hit.

Totally true, Federer said this himself in the past when discussing wins over the top players. Federer is mentally exhausted after a long stay at number one with everyone going after him. This mental lapse was bound to happen. I don't believe for a minute that mono is what felled him this year, it was mental exhaustion and burnout (overtraining) plain and simple. Having failed to capture Roland Garros and then losing his Wimbledon crown in a year when he has been struggling to stay ahead mentally, it's no surprise to see him fall in his first match to a player who is burning up the US Open series circuit. This guy believed in himself more than Federer did.

star
07-24-2008, 03:01 AM
WOW! :eek: :eek:

The first time I looked at the score it didn't even register that Federer had lost. I thought he won in 3, and then I realized. WOW.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 03:02 AM
Is it too late for me? :sad:

As I have always said,

If any Fedtard wants to saved, the light will save them.

finishingmove
07-24-2008, 03:02 AM
:worship: Simon
:worship: Simon , The Spartan.

leng jai
07-24-2008, 03:03 AM
Where's Clay Death already? :( I need his interpretation of the match.

Single handed backhand syndrome.

leng jai
07-24-2008, 03:04 AM
As I have always said,

If any Fedtard wants to saved, the light will save them.

But I'm not a Fedtard. Can Haastards be saved :confused:

scoobs
07-24-2008, 03:04 AM
Where's Clay Death already? :( I need his interpretation of the match.
I'm channelling...

Something about clay monsters...pray for death...over for Federer...ghost of Wimbledon...collective suicide.

Not necessarily in that order. :)

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 03:04 AM
:worship: Simon
:worship: Simon , The Spartan.

There will be 300 soon enough. ;)

scoobs
07-24-2008, 03:04 AM
But I'm not a Fedtard. Can Haastards be saved :confused:
You lot are beyond hope :)

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 03:06 AM
But I'm not a Fedtard. Can Haastards be saved :confused:

You are a Nadal hater. Thats close enough.

First step to being saved. Rewatch the last 4 French Open finals and be amazed at Nadals tactical baseline brilliance.

leng jai
07-24-2008, 03:06 AM
You lot are beyond hope :)

Do we qualify as a lot even though there appears to be only me? :(

scoobs
07-24-2008, 03:08 AM
Do we qualify as a lot even though there appears to be only me? :(
There's four:love as well :)

Not sure 2 constitutes a "lot" but call it artistic license....

leng jai
07-24-2008, 03:08 AM
You are a Nadal hater. Thats close enough.

First step to being saved. Rewatch the last 4 French Open finals and be amazed at Nadals tactical baseline brilliance.

Do you have any pills or techniques that will allow me to stay awake while watching?

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-24-2008, 03:09 AM
Do you have any pills or techniques that will allow me to stay awake while watching?

Logic might be boring to some, but intellectual superiority cannot be pretty.

leng jai
07-24-2008, 03:09 AM
There's four:love as well :)

Not sure 2 constitutes a "lot" but call it artistic license....

Nah, Four:love is a kiefertard, he only posts about Haas cause hes patriotic. However, I did forget about my buddy supertommyhaas but he seems to have given up on Haasi these days.

Vida
07-24-2008, 03:10 AM
I'm channelling...

Something about clay monsters...pray for death...over for Federer...ghost of Wimbledon...collective suicide.

Not necessarily in that order. :)

affirmative.

fast_clay
07-24-2008, 03:13 AM
Do you have any pills or techniques that will allow me to stay awake while watching?

:lol: :haha:




true story...

i was having trouble sleeping at night recently... got it checked out by a doctor... i asked him for some pills... but he prescribed me a dvd of the last two french open finals... he said it would work just as good...:eek:

i asked him him how much these the dvd would cost... he then paid me Ä50 to take them..

Ackms421
07-24-2008, 03:14 AM
At least we know what match they'll be showing during every rain delay the rest of the week.

As for Fed, his only hope (IMO) is to drop in the rankings and go into some matches at the underdog. That hasn't happened for 5 years and it's the only shot at Pete's record, which I think is now safe.. Having said that, Pete won his last three slams after the entire tennis world had written him off, so who knows.

Nah, he was still the favorite at Wimbledon in 1999 and 2000 (he was ranked #1 for sporadic portions of each of those years I think, but in 1999 for sure). He did, though, win the last of his slams after the entire tennis world had dismissed him. I think his record was under .500 going into the USO that year, and he was ranked 17th. The 2002 USO was one of the most dramatic wins I've ever seen. Sampras is my favorite player, and before now I was very nervous that Federer was going to meet or beat his record. But...boy do those 3 slams seem distant now.

That miracle USO might pay off in dividends for Pete, because even if Federer doesn't bounce back drastically, he could still sneak in one more slam (or two?)...

gusman890
07-24-2008, 03:18 AM
It was good by Simon to fight back after being down a break twice in the 3rd set. Federer really killed himself tonight with all those UE.

dylan24
07-24-2008, 03:20 AM
i hear there will be a new RF hat coming out in pink color since roger has now offically become a swiss miss.

knight_ley
07-24-2008, 03:21 AM
:lol:

KoOlMaNsEaN
07-24-2008, 03:21 AM
I've just stopped being a Federer fan now. Just stupid mistakes coming in on nothings and letting Gilles pass him and the way he lost his serve games like he just didn't care. It's not the Federer I came to love.

Vida
07-24-2008, 03:30 AM
I've just stopped being a Federer fan now. Just stupid mistakes coming in on nothings and letting Gilles pass him and the way he lost his serve games like he just didn't care. It's not the Federer I came to love.

For f**k sake.

oranges
07-24-2008, 03:32 AM
Do you have any pills or techniques that will allow me to stay awake while watching?

:haha:

rofe
07-24-2008, 03:35 AM
I've just stopped being a Federer fan now. Just stupid mistakes coming in on nothings and letting Gilles pass him and the way he lost his serve games like he just didn't care. It's not the Federer I came to love.

Ahh, the MTF Fed bandwagon is shrinking. Sure sign that Fed is on his way to being a washed up player.

scoobs
07-24-2008, 03:42 AM
Ahh, the MTF Fed bandwagon is shrinking. Sure sign that Fed is on his way to being a washed up player.
Well you know what they say about sinking ships. The gloryhunters run for the lifeboats.

I hear the SS Djokovic has room to spare. :shrug:

finishingmove
07-24-2008, 03:43 AM
Simon usually loses the round after a great victory. So no hopes for him in this tournament.

epic match in the next round versus jose acasuso, the clutch.

Ivanatis
07-24-2008, 03:45 AM
Unreal.

Alex999
07-24-2008, 03:46 AM
I've just stopped being a Federer fan now. Just stupid mistakes coming in on nothings and letting Gilles pass him and the way he lost his serve games like he just didn't care. It's not the Federer I came to love.
Roger deserves better fans (sorry). I didn't think I'd post here any more ... this is a sad day for tennis ... something is wrong with him ...

star
07-24-2008, 03:47 AM
That's actually how I feel too. Normally I would be happy, can't see anyone stopping Nole from winning this again now. But strangely, I am kind of sad. :shrug:


I think Nadal can stop Nole. I'm not saying he absolutely will, but he can. I hope they both make it to the semi. I want to see that match! :banana:

I think I'm in love with this Federer!:hearts:

I'm becoming quite fond of him myself. :lol:

Well. I used to be a Fed Fanatic. I used to think everything he touched was gold. It was tough for me to accept his losses, and always came up with excuses and this and that. But this sort of relationship with someone you don't even know is not healthy. So I want to thank Roger for freeing me. Now I can move on and watch tennis and enjoy it and don't worry about every shank that Roger makes.

:yeah: It's weird to have such an emotional connection to someone who isn't even aware that you are alive. I'm an advocate of healthy tennis fandom. :)

Not even the friggin' strawberry shortcake draws are good enough anymore for Fed.... Notice all the talented youngsters like Nole, Murray and Gasquet are in Rafa's half of the draw. They toss the washed ups in Roger's half of the draw.... :o

Fortunately the one talented youngster in Federer's half met Federer in the first round. :halo:

^not likely. If you notice he started losing a lot more often when the ATP switched to 2 out of 3. Fed struggles in the format and if you're going to beat him, you've got a better chance of doing it by winning two sets. In a a best of 5 set he has time to recover and his opponents have time to doubt themselves.

I don't see Roger losing in the first weeks of majors even on a bad day. Are the Olympics best of 5?

I agree. I remember Sampras even when he began to slide still was able to play well in the slams.

I am still happy from the Wimby final.
This is just icing on the cake.

Become a Nole/Rafa fan. Join the light ;)

Me too! Happy and joined the light! :lol:

Is it too late for me? :sad:

Never -- although I'm worried you might burn to a crisp in the light. :lol:

Mimi
07-24-2008, 03:48 AM
:hug::hug: long time no see, how are you :D?
Roger deserves better fans (sorry). I didn't think I'd post here any more ... this is a sad day for tennis ... something is wrong with him ...

Knightmace
07-24-2008, 03:51 AM
NOO!!

What's going on???????

Davodus
07-24-2008, 03:52 AM
I'm a federer and simon fan
thought it was a good match, gilles played well, federer played some shocking games that lost it for him
that was pretty much it
federers forehand was the let down

Tiklish
07-24-2008, 03:55 AM
Horrible to see him unforce error himself out of the tournament, losing both the second set and the match on his own serve by continuously hitting the ball out of bounds. I don't get why this happens. If you're going for the lines and can't hit them, how about going for . . . inside the court! Hit it down the freaking middle if necessary. At least make the other guy hit the winner. Sad. When Rafa was down 4-1 in the first, I knew he'd find a way to win. When Rogi broke Simon in the third and couldn't hold his own after that and ended up at 4-4 I knew he'd lose it on his own serve with more of those ridiculous attempts to go for big early winners on the lines, that he'd already shown over and over he couldn't hit. Yes, I am angry with one of my favorite players. These things do happen now and then.

Alex999
07-24-2008, 03:56 AM
:hug::hug: long time no see, how are you :D?
I'm good Mimi, thank you. I just feel bad for Federer ....

n3gative
07-24-2008, 04:01 AM
I got to watch this match live and Federer played some of the worst tennis I've ever seen from him in the 2nd and 3rd sets. He began complaining in the 3rd set about something and lost his last 2-3 service games. Simon did absolutely nothing to warrant this win, Federer simply self destructed on every point by playing ball bashing tennis.

Mimi
07-24-2008, 04:03 AM
as kind as always :hug: but no need to feel bad for roger, he will bounce back, and whats more, he has 12 slams and lots of $$$$$$$$ :p
I'm good Mimi, thank you. I just feel bad for Federer ....

Albop
07-24-2008, 04:09 AM
I've just stopped being a Federer fan now. Just stupid mistakes coming in on nothings and letting Gilles pass him and the way he lost his serve games like he just didn't care. It's not the Federer I came to love.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

LBrock44
07-24-2008, 04:10 AM
I've just stopped being a Federer fan now. Just stupid mistakes coming in on nothings and letting Gilles pass him and the way he lost his serve games like he just didn't care. It's not the Federer I came to love.

You know what? Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya. Yes he played like shit today. He's human, after all. But spoiled wannabe fans like you are used to him always winning. That won't always be the case, as recent events sure as hell show. But he'll be fine; he's a champion, and fans that are going to ditch him after a down period aren't real fans any way.

alfonsojose
07-24-2008, 04:13 AM
Another smart guy who wants to be fit for the Olympics :yeah: ;)

~Maya~
07-24-2008, 04:15 AM
Horrible to see him unforce error himself out of the tournament, losing both the second set and the match on his own serve by continuously hitting the ball out of bounds. I don't get why this happens. If you're going for the lines and can't hit them, how about going for . . . inside the court! Hit it down the freaking middle if necessary. At least make the other guy hit the winner. Sad. When Rafa was down 4-1 in the first, I knew he'd find a way to win. When Rogi broke Simon in the third and couldn't hold his own after that and ended up at 4-4 I knew he'd lose it on his own serve with more of those ridiculous attempts to go for big early winners on the lines, that he'd already shown over and over he couldn't hit. Yes, I am angry with one of my favorite players. These things do happen now and then.

That is the same thing I was thinking about. The way he would send that ball outside of the court was just insane. Maybe he is trying to play HIS hard court game and HIS game is not good anymore. I believe that hard court became his weakest surface. I didn't see the first set. Did Simone improve after the first set making Federer go for big shots or it was completely Federer's meltdown episode?
51 UFs is just insane

Turquoise
07-24-2008, 04:17 AM
Superb win for Simon! :yeah: Thought the match was wrapped up for Federer in 3rd set when he got that first break (being a great frontrunner), so all credit to Simon for hanging in there and getting the vital breaks of serve back. Good luck in the following rounds - hope he can stay on top of the world a little longer at least. :)

freeandlonely
07-24-2008, 04:18 AM
I just watched the highlight.:sad:

I saw he lost patience and start playing either over aggressively(without brain)
or hit a loose backand follow by going to net(which is fatally to be crossed by)
as if he wants to finished the points(or match) asap (win or lose)

In other words maybe he doesn't care that much.
In other words maybe he is really tired, mentally.:sad:

Clay Death
07-24-2008, 04:27 AM
I just watched the highlight.:sad:

I saw he lost patience and start playing either over aggressively(without brain)
or hit a loose backand follow by going to net(which is fatally to be crossed by)
as if he wants to finished the points(or match) asap (win or lose)

In other words maybe he doesn't care that much.
In other words maybe he is really tired, mentally.:sad:

in other words, you have come with 2 new excuses for him. lets hear some more execuses. this is amusing.

moon language
07-24-2008, 04:30 AM
That is the same thing I was thinking about. The way he would send that ball outside of the court was just insane. Maybe he is trying to play HIS hard court game and HIS game is not good anymore. I believe that hard court became his weakest surface. I didn't see the first set. Did Simone improve after the first set making Federer go for big shots or it was completely Federer's meltdown episode?
51 UFs is just insane

Simon did play better as the match went on. In the first set he was kind of tentative but he seemed to get a feel for what Federer could do and after that was better at staying with him in the rallies.

freeandlonely
07-24-2008, 04:33 AM
in other words, you have come with 2 new excuses for him. lets hear some more execuses. this is amusing.

alright, maybe I'm...

Allez
07-24-2008, 04:36 AM
Only now are some people starting to realise what I and others have been saying all year. Federer is beyond finished. I did say in the poll thread that he is vulnerable right now, and so it proved. He should retire while still number 1. Doesn't have a lot of weeks left.

nateyang
07-24-2008, 04:47 AM
This seems concerning:

from SI

Never has the Swiss star seemed so beatable, and he seems frustrated, too. He buried his head in his hands after one question from media.

"You wouldn't have asked me that if I would have won, right?"

Sunset of Age
07-24-2008, 04:51 AM
Only now are some people starting to realise what I and others have been saying all year. Federer is beyond finished. I did say in the poll thread that he is vulnerable right now, and so it proved. He should retire while still number 1. Doesn't have a lot of weeks left.

Are you proud of that, now? :rolleyes:

jcempire
07-24-2008, 04:53 AM
Giles SImon play so well recent weeks

Nadal got a chance to come out on the top

jcempire
07-24-2008, 04:54 AM
Are you proud of that, now? :rolleyes:

I'm sure he does

Chloe le Bopper
07-24-2008, 04:56 AM
It's good to see that nobody is overreacting.

jcempire
07-24-2008, 04:57 AM
It's good to see that nobody is overreacting.

It may not be a surprise to people at this time

Johnny Groove
07-24-2008, 04:58 AM
It's melancholy to see the shine come off the greats as they age.

Very true

TMJordan
07-24-2008, 05:08 AM
I knew it.

I called this one. Go Gilles.

chris101
07-24-2008, 05:08 AM
Only now are some people starting to realise what I and others have been saying all year. Federer is beyond finished. I did say in the poll thread that he is vulnerable right now, and so it proved. He should retire while still number 1. Doesn't have a lot of weeks left.

There's never been a No.1 who looks more down than "mono Fed" does at the moment.

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/photos/2008-07-06/200807061215377379328.html

flexeter
07-24-2008, 05:10 AM
well a bad loss, but he is human after all

I just dont understand why he throw it up mentally in the third set, after this year´s match against Ramirez Hidalgo where he was losing 5-1 in the 3rd and won I thought he is mentally strong. Anyways, if he lost that match against RRH, this one wouldn´t be that much unexpected :)

chris101
07-24-2008, 05:13 AM
great. not only can I not edit my posts - I can't even post a simple pic now

njnetswill
07-24-2008, 05:15 AM
Shocking loss. I mean, I am a fan of Gilles but he has no weapons and a very attackable serve. :shrug:

Fed :confused:

chris101
07-24-2008, 05:19 AM
Sampras is the one who fucked up Federer. Federer has never been the same after practising with Sampras before Indian Wells in 2007.

Sean randall would prob. agree with you:

"November 12th, 2007

Federer Falls Again, Is Sampras to Blame?

by Sean Randall


The next time Pete Sampras calls, Roger Federer needs to hang up the phone. If heís knocking at the front door, Fed shouldnít open it. If they are scheduled to play, like they are after Shanghai in a series of exos, Fed needs to get a sick note from the Doc. Maybe go with the ďMirkaís having a babyĒ excuse. Anything to get out of it. Iím sure Pete would understand.













I canít speak accurately about what went on or what ideas were exchanged when Federer decided to hit with Sampras back in March prior to Indian Wells, but in my mind Federer hasnít been the same player since.


Prior to the Pete practice sessions, Fed was untouchable, arguably at the peak of his powers and on a 41-match win streak that included an Australian Open triumph during which he didnít surrender a single set. Since then heís been losing to guys from South America like it was his job.


Of course Federer did go on to win two of the next three Slams, losing only to Rafael Nadal at the French, but in non-Slam play Fedís been sub-par, almost like Pete used to be later in his career when the American focused solely on securing Slams.


Putting the priority on Majors is fine and well, but Federer shouldnít fall into that Sampras trap. When you start losing in the smaller events, eventually it will catch up with you in the bigger ones. And itís starting to show.


Of course Federerís now just two shy of Samprasís mark of 14 Slams, so maybe Pete put some sort of a pox on Rogerís bid back in March to preserve his record. If he did itís working, certainly at the non Majors.


Since the Pete encounter Fedís been 52-9 (32-8 in non Majors) after tumbling today at the Shanghai Tennis Masters to Fernando Gonzalez. The nine losses, which include two to Argyís Guillermo Canas and David Nalbandian and even one to Filippo Volandri, match the total number of setbacks the Swiss suffered in 2006 and 2005 combined. And more could be on the way this week. Nikolay Davydenko has played Federer tough in the past, and a free-swinging Andy Roddick on Friday can be dangerous, as he was a year ago in Shanghai.


And letís not forget - Iím sure Nikolay and Andy will not - that Gonzalez is/was a guy that Roger flat-out dominated, and that might be putting it kindly. Until today Fed had won all ten meetings with Gonzo winning 25 of 27 sets.


Despite the loss itís still tough to bet against Fed not emerging from his group in Shanghai, then again since his US Open title the only Top 10 player Fedís faced in tournament competition was Gonzalez today.


So Federer and Sampras are set to unite again after Shanghai for a couple of exhibition matches. Iím not sure what the matches will prove (and I really donít care) other than the fact that both players have a thing for the color of money.


That all said and given Fedís play, I think Roger needs to avoid Pete like the plague, because for Roger, maybe Pete is the plague."

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2007-11-12/320.php

WhataQT
07-24-2008, 05:26 AM
Simon says 'go home'
BEVERLEY SMITH

From Thursday's Globe and Mail

July 24, 2008 at 1:14 AM EDT

TORONTO ó There will be no rematch of the epic Wimbledon battle between Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal at the Rogers Cup.

The world's top-ranked tennis player, Roger Federer, left a rain-weary crowd in shock last night as unseeded young Frenchman Gilles Simon upset him 2-6, 7-5, 6-4 and bounced him out of the tournament.

Federer is the first top seed in this tournament to be defeated since Lleyton Hewitt in 2002.

Both Federer and Nadal were playing their first matches of the tournament yesterday. Nadal was rusty in his first game last night, but he advanced to the next round after defeating tough Canadian-born qualifier Jesse Levine 6-4, 6-2.


Simon is ranked No.É|22 in the world after capturing his fourth ATP singles title last week in Indianapolis. Federer had never played Simon before.

At first, it appeared that Federer was going to sail through for an easy victory after trouncing Simon in the first set 6-2 in only about half an hour. But then things changed. Federer completely wilted in the final set and appeared uncharacteristically on edge.

Why?

"Missed opportunities," a wan Federer said afterward. Federer said he had all the tools to put Simon away and should have done it in two sets, but the problem was in his own game. "I don't think I served well today at all. It's tough."

He said the balls here were different from those at Wimbledon, where he played for almost five hours in the final match with Nadal. "I was serving 70 per cent in Wimbledon and here I'm serving 50 per cent," Federer said. "I can't serve any aces, so it's just a different type of match."

Asked whether his Wimbledon effort had drained him mentally and physically, Federer said: "You wouldn't have asked me that if I would have won, right? So I guess."

Perhaps his defeat was because this was his first match on hard court. "I couldn't sneak through maybe the way I usually can, so it hurts obviously," he said. "It hurts your momentum because I think I get through the match and I get into the tournament and start playing better. But I got caught cold."

Federer went down in a cloud of unforced errors as starry-eyed Simon was buoyed by confidence from winning a tournament last week. "I just wanted to not miss this match," Simon said. "I just wanted to fight, to play a nice match and that's what I did. I'm so proud of this."

Simon said he didn't have a particular strategy. "I was just too tired to think," he said. "I just saw the ball. I hit the ball."

He admitted it was impressive when he first entered the Centre Court to play Federer and had to pinch himself to remind himself where he was. "For me, it was the first time I didn't know what to expect," Simon said. "Even if it was not such a good match for him, he's so hard to defeat."

Nadal was also coming off a torrid Wimbledon match, too, and a rest. And yesterday, after a day of heavy rainfall, he waited four hours to start his match. Federer had no wait, starting his match against improving Simon at 7:30 p.m., as scheduled.

To pass the time during a lengthy rain delay, Nadal said he played foosball and darts while rain pelted the courts and drove the crowd inside for cover.

Both Nadal and Federer were playing their first matches of the tournament yesterday.

Nadal looked a little rusty in the first set, battling with Levine, but he eventually won 6-4. He found his feet in the second set and won 6-2.

Levine, who was born in Ottawa but holds a U.S. passport, peppered Nadal with some dangerous backhand shots and then suddenly he realized whom he was playing. "I think I was in that zone, not sure really where I was, and then I kind of came to my senses and realized that I'm playing Nadal on stadium court," he said.

With that thought came a few tingly nerves. "But I felt like I fought hard and played well and °K came up with some big shots at certain times," he said.

Levine, 20, admitted he was tired, after having played some tough matches just to qualify earlier in the week and having no days off. He also didn't get a chance to hit any balls before the match. On the other hand, Nadal appeared to need the match. "Not easy the first round, never," he said. "°KIt's tough start, no?"

Levine, ranked 123rd in the world, had never played anyone of Nadal's calibre before. He's new to the ATP Masters Series this year. He has a wild card to Cincinnati next week, but is hoping he can get into the top 100, enabling him to get into other tournaments without qualifying.

finishingmove
07-24-2008, 05:37 AM
Simon said he didn't have a particular strategy. "I was just too tired to think," he said. "I just saw the ball. I hit the ball."

:haha: priceless

Clay Death
07-24-2008, 05:40 AM
:haha: priceless
so he lost to a tired, skinny, and 1/2 starved Frenchman with a completely nonexistent/zero game plan.

now I am realy impressed.

tennis2tennis
07-24-2008, 05:41 AM
:haha: priceless

you know that's actually a very good point, roger has a tendancy to over-think sometimes