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Novak: "I still have a lot to learn"

Radalek
07-22-2008, 01:30 PM
His first tennis coach, Jelena Gencic, woman that was first to recognize his talent, gave an interview for some serbian newspapers and was asked about Novak and what she thinks about his current game.Apparently they talked not so long ago and he admited to her that "He isn't in top physical shape yet, and that he has still a lot to learn".She also said that "What he needs the most now is to improve his fitness even more and work on his body to be able to endure whole season without tiring him self too much and maintain high level trough whole year."She thinks it will take him 2 more years to reach his full potential.

What do you think, how much room there is for his improvement?Apart from volleying skills, and his fitness to some extent, do you think he can drasticaly improve him self in some other department?Is this what we see more or less his maximum game wise or do you expect to see more?What do you think how will his game evolve in next few years?

fast_clay
07-22-2008, 01:33 PM
i feel he still needs to work on the backhand overhead... it looks dodge...

bjurra
07-22-2008, 02:21 PM
If I hear/read Novak saying "I still have a lot to learn" one more time, I will throw up.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 02:22 PM
His first tennis coach, Jelena Gencic, woman that was first to recognize his talent, gave an interview for some serbian newspapers and was asked about Novak and what she thinks about his current game.Apparently they talked not so long ago and he admited to her that "He isn't in top physical shape yet, and that he has still a lot to learn".She also said that "What he needs the most now is to improve his fitness even more and work on his body to be able to endure whole season without tiring him self too much and maintain high level trough whole year."She thinks it will take him 2 more years to reach his full potential.

What do you think, how much room there is for his improvement?Apart from volleying skills, and his fitness to some extent, do you think he can drasticaly improve him self in some other department?Is this what we see more or less his maximum game wise or do you expect to see more?What do you think how will his game evolve in next few years?


one loss doesnt end his deal. he has made astounding gains in his game over the course of last 2 years and has the record to prove it. he was brave enough to dream big and daring enough to challenge the best.

how many others have pulled off what he has accomplished by just 20. thats right. he is barely 21. only the sky is the limit for him if he keeps improving.

the best is yet to come from him. i believe he does his best work on hard courts and could very well make another very deep run at the U.S. Open.

dylan24
07-22-2008, 02:28 PM
If I hear/read Novak saying "I still have a lot to learn" one more time, I will throw up.

listening to anything that jerk says makes me want to vomit

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 02:31 PM
listening to anything that jerk says makes me want to vomit


why is he so unpopular at mtf?

Vida
07-22-2008, 02:37 PM
why is he so unpopular at mtf?

because he's the one who started serving humble pie at AO, that dylan here is about to choke on vomiting it.

Vida
07-22-2008, 02:41 PM
His first tennis coach, Jelena Gencic, woman that was first to recognize his talent, gave an interview for some serbian newspapers and was asked about Novak and what she thinks about his current game.Apparently they talked not so long ago and he admited to her that "He isn't in top physical shape yet, and that he has still a lot to learn".She also said that "What he needs the most now is to improve his fitness even more and work on his body to be able to endure whole season without tiring him self too much and maintain high level trough whole year."She thinks it will take him 2 more years to reach his full potential.

What do you think, how much room there is for his improvement?Apart from volleying skills, and his fitness to some extent, do you think he can drasticaly improve him self in some other department?Is this what we see more or less his maximum game wise or do you expect to see more?What do you think how will his game evolve in next few years?

Novak has huge room for improvement. He has matured physically over the past year, so there is room to be filled. He also changed racket and strings to give him more options in his strokes and spins. Also, his slice is example of how he is improving constantly in his game over the past six months or so. Volleys as well.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 02:43 PM
because he's the one who started serving humble pie at AO, that dylan here is about to choke on vomiting it.


that explains it. thanks as always Vida. he (Djokovic) also dished out some abuse at this very event last year.

Federereeeeeeesians obviously have no use for Djokovic.

poor Djokovic. Nadalites must also hate Djokovic since he is a huge threat on hard courts. Djokovic did gun down Nadal at Rogers Cup last year. this year, he tore up Nadal pretty bad at Indian Wells.

i just want extreme competition at the very top. i would be perfectly happy to see Djokovic win the U.S. Open.

MacTheKnife
07-22-2008, 02:49 PM
One thing that would help him is to learn to keep his mouth shut and focus on his own game. (guess that's two things)

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 02:51 PM
Novak has huge room for improvement. He has matured physically over the past year, so there is room to be filled. He also changed racket and strings to give him more options in his strokes and spins. Also, his slice is example of how he is improving constantly in his game over the past six months or so. Volleys as well.


affirmative. he cant be taken lightly. i think he may have been inspired by that win by the Clay Monster at Wimby. we all know what he can do.

dylan24
07-22-2008, 02:52 PM
besides his BS fake injuries, the delay w/ the ball bouncing, the garbage that comes out of his mouth and his annyoing family, i like novak

Vida
07-22-2008, 02:52 PM
that explains it. thanks as always Vida. he (Djokovic) also dished out some abuse at this very event last year.

Federereeeeeeesians obviously have no use for Djokovic.

poor Djokovic. Nadalites must also hate Djokovic since he is a huge threat on hard courts. Djokovic did gun down Nadal at Rogers Cup last year. this year, he tore up Nadal pretty bad at Indian Wells.

i just want extreme competition at the very top. i would be perfectly happy to see Djokovic win the U.S. Open.

Maybe Nadalites, but Rafa fans I doubt. They (Novak and Rafa) seem to respect each other very much, and have so far divided territories (clay,grass / HC). Its the Fed worshipers that I'm worried about, all that humble pie might have negative impact on their well being. One should avoid overeating.

DhammaTiger
07-22-2008, 02:58 PM
One thing that would help him is to learn to keep his mouth shut and focus on his own game. (guess that's two things)

He is not the only one in the history of tennis that didn't keep his mouth shut. The one in your avatar also had a motor-mouth. Djokovic is barely 21 so cut him some slack. I have changed my opinion about Novak and his talking, I was wrong before. Even if he is not one of my favourites, I wish him well.

bjurra
07-22-2008, 02:58 PM
besides his BS fake injuries, the delay w/ the ball bouncing, the garbage that comes out of his mouth and his annyoing family, i like novak

Apart from the things mentioned above and Novak's smug smile, his occasional tanks, his desperate need for attention and his oncourt celebrations, I like Novak too.

Manon
07-22-2008, 03:02 PM
One thing that would help him is to learn to keep his mouth shut and focus on his own game. (guess that's two things)

Irational hating would be enough. You repeated yourself. This poor Radalek didn't know it's not allowed to open thread about Novak. He is only hoping he'll find some resonable answers, discussion.

And funny, you're not a kid.

dylan24
07-22-2008, 03:05 PM
Apart from the things mentioned above and Novak's smug smile, his occasional tanks, his desperate need for attention and his oncourt celebrations, I like Novak too.

oh right, i forgot about all that stuff too.
i agree w/ you. so much about novak to dislike.
the list is huge

bokehlicious
07-22-2008, 03:14 PM
Maybe Nadalites, but Rafa fans I doubt. They (Novak and Rafa) seem to respect each other very much,

Novak seems to kiss Rafa's arse, the other way round doesn't seem that strong though :o I guess Novak thinks that he might piss Fed off acting like that... :)

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 03:22 PM
Novak seems to kiss Rafa's arse, the other way round doesn't seem that strong though :o I guess Novak thinks that he might piss Fed off acting like that... :)


what makes you think that? i guess i may have missed it. if anything, Djokovic had been doing those impressions of Fed and Nadal about a year ago. Nadal didnt think that was too cool.

Vida
07-22-2008, 03:25 PM
Novak seems to kiss Rafa's arse, the other way round doesn't seem that strong though :o I guess Novak thinks that he might piss Fed off acting like that... :)

Well Rafa seems to kiss Feds arse, and yet we hear Fed having "Nadal complex" or ... check this out: "chokes" every time he meets him.

Hmmmmmm.... if thats truly the case, that 12 GS champ is a choker and has some complexes, than what does that say about his future prospects? :lol:

So you see, its about different personalities. Novak kisses Rafas arse and slags Fed, while Rafa only kisses Feds arse. Between being slagged and kissed your arse, Fed must be in discombobulated state. That way, those complexes don't seem so strange, nor does his record this year.

bokehlicious
07-22-2008, 03:26 PM
what makes you think that? i guess i may have missed it. if anything, Djokovic had been doing those impressions of Fed and Nadal about a year ago. Nadal didnt think that was too cool.

From their respective interviews... Nadal of course respects Novak, just as he respects almost anyone else, but Novak always praises Nadal (and then "diss" Fed) :shrug:

That said, I guess neither Rafa nor Roger give a damn at what Djerker has to say :o

+alonso
07-22-2008, 03:28 PM
:shrug: Nothing new. I mean, the statement is obvious and stuff. Wish him luck though.

bokehlicious
07-22-2008, 03:30 PM
Hmmmmmm.... if thats truly the case, that 12 GS champ is a choker and has some complexes, than what does that say about his future prospects? :lol:


You're right again,12 slams, what a shame, I guess the guy will soon retire and hide somewhere in shame...

Both Nadal and Novak will make those 12 slams look ridiculous the day they both retire with 30 slams each :shrug:

Vida
07-22-2008, 03:33 PM
Wrong P.A.

Fed cares very much about what people say about him. Hes most dependable of what is being said about him. His confidence depends on his arse being kissed.

Remember my post about "sense of inevitability"? Wha do you think Fed was frustrated and tentative at Wimby finals? Why was he completely destroyed at FO finals? Furthermore, why did he got frustrated at AO?

Because public opinion regarding Feds prospects (influenced by Nole in a bad way, and Nadal in visibly overacted "good" way) went down.

Its a consequence of being so dominant in this PC era. :)

If that was not the case, Fed would except Rafas doubles invitation, and would indeed pay no attention to what Nole said about him. All of which is not the case.

Manon
07-22-2008, 03:36 PM
He is not the only one in the history of tennis that didn't keep his mouth shut. The one in your avatar also had a motor-mouth. Djokovic is barely 21 so cut him some slack. I have changed my opinion about Novak and his talking, I was wrong before. Even if he is not one of my favourites, I wish him well.

Don't bother Ali.

bokehlicious
07-22-2008, 03:39 PM
Wrong P.A.

Fed cares very much about what people say about him.

:worship: didn't know you knew the guy so well...

:eek: are you Mirka? :aplot:

:D

bokehlicious
07-22-2008, 03:39 PM
As far as I know only you wasn't here.

Read more carefully mate ;)

Matt01
07-22-2008, 03:40 PM
Novak: "I still have a lot to learn"


Djoko is so smart. And wise :bowdown:

Vida
07-22-2008, 03:41 PM
Djoko is so smart. And wise :bowdown:

:lol:

Matt, please ... we have enough worshipers around here. ;)

Manon
07-22-2008, 03:43 PM
Read more carefully mate ;)

Yes, this thread is what said his first trainer. And you (not trolls of course) talking about? I mean sometimes is so sick. Novak fan can open thread about moon you will tell about Novak.

:wavey:

Pfloyd
07-22-2008, 03:44 PM
Wow, this Novak is scary smart.

bokehlicious
07-22-2008, 03:45 PM
Yes, this thread is what said his first trainer. And you (not trolls of course) talking about? I mean sometimes is so sick. Novak fan can open thread about moon you will tell about Novak.

:wavey:

Put that in Nole's forum if you can't take a criticism, that's GM... :hug:

Matt01
07-22-2008, 03:51 PM
:lol:

Matt, please ... we have enough worshipers around here. ;)


Sorry ;)

Damn
07-22-2008, 03:56 PM
why is he so unpopular at mtf?

Because of things like this, for example:

-SdfhhYJsJ8

One thing that would help him is to learn to keep his mouth shut and focus on his own game. (guess that's two things)

Exactly.

dusk
07-22-2008, 03:56 PM
i just want extreme competition at the very top.

Exactly!

Whoever's there to offer it, bring it on, I say.
It should be all about the game.

tangerine_dream
07-22-2008, 04:08 PM
Because of things like this, for example:

-SdfhhYJsJ8

Funny. That's when I started to become a fan of Novak's. While all of MTF was outraged over his chutzpah I was greatly amused by it.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 04:09 PM
Exactly!

Whoever's there to offer it, bring it on, I say.
It should be all about the game.


check this out. this espn writer has Djokovic winning the tournament.

Djokovic ready to recharge in Toronto
By Ravi Ubha
Special to ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: July 21, 2008, 10:22 AM ET
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Tournament: Rogers Cup
Surface: Hard
Draw: 64
Prize Money: $2,615,000
Top seeds: Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic, Nikolay Davydenko




Rafael Nadal's win over Roger Federer at Wimbledon, according to many, signalled a changing of the guard atop men's tennis, no matter what the rankings say.



Federer, still technically the No. 1, has a chance to re-establish his authority in Toronto and build some momentum ahead of next month's Olympics and U.S. Open, while Nadal, whose knees don't take kindly to hard courts, is hoping to keep things going.



Novak Djokovic, the defending Rogers Cup champion, is seeking to bounce back from a surprising second-round exit at Wimbledon. He just might be the man to beat on this surface.




First Quarter: New territory for Federer?



After a first-round bye, Federer could run into two players he's never faced before, improving Frenchman Gilles Simon and the dangerous Ernests Gulbis, the only foe apart from Federer to take a set off Nadal at Wimbledon this year.



Simon, whose best results have traditionally come on clay, won his first hard-court title in Indianapolis on Sunday.



Gulbis should coast in his opener against puzzling Argentine Jose Acasuso and would likely need to down another combustible South American, Fernando Gonzalez, to get to the third round -- and potentially Federer.



Andy Roddick might not need to wait long to get revenge on Janko Tipsarevic, his conqueror in the second round at Wimbledon. If the Serb wins his opener, they'll meet in Round 2.



Rising Croat star Marin Cilic is also in this quarter of the draw and could be a dangerous floater.


[+] EnlargeAP Photo/Darron Cummings

James Blake has historically thrived in the summer hard-court season, reaching the semifinals or better four times since last year.
Prediction: Federer



Second Quarter: Blake looking good



James Blake always heats up during the U.S. Open series. As if we needed more evidence of that, the dashing baseliner reached the semifinals in Indianapolis this past weekend.



He gets a chance to ease into the Toronto draw, too, a bye in the opening round followed by a qualifier in the next.



Wimbledon quarterfinalist Feliciano Lopez, crafty Czech Radek Stepanek -- a winner over Blake in the Los Angeles final last summer -- and the potentially dangerous Dmitry Tursunov, Blake tormentor in the Indianpolis semis, are all in the section, though only one advances to the third round.



Nikolay Davydenko is the highest seed. He's trying to regain some momentum following third-round and first-round exits at the French Open and Wimbledon, respectively.



His first foe will probably be German Tommy Haas. Two of their last three head-to-heads went to five sets.



Blake, incidentally, is a perfect 6-0 versus Davydenko.



Prediction: Blake


Third Quarter: Djokovic's to lose



Djokovic broke through at this tournament last year, upsetting Federer in the final after saving a flurry of set points on the Swiss's serve in the opening set. He carried the momentum to the U.S. Open, although Federer exacted revenged and saved a few set points of his own in a straight-sets thriller in the finale.



Djokovic likely begins with Croat Mario Ancic, somewhat on a roll in the wake of his quarterfinal showing at Wimbledon. Ancic knocked off two Spaniards who'd been performing well, in David Ferrer and Fernando Verdasco, along the way.



Verdasco, becoming a tad less unpredictable -- reaching at least the semis in three of his last four tournaments -- is one of several dark horses, along with Andy Murray, coming off his first Grand Slam quarterfinal, Marat Safin and Stanislas Wawrinka.



Safin toppled Wawrinka in the fourth round at Wimbledon and they're on course for a second-round rematch.



Prediction: Djokovic


[+] EnlargeAP Photo/Ian Walton

Having dominated on clay and grass this year, Rafael Nadal will attempt to keep the momentum going on the hard courts of Toronto.
Fourth Quarter: Nadal's entrance


Nadal has a potentially tasty start, if nothing else, against charismatic Cypriot Marcos Baghdatis. Nadal hasn't lost to the Peter Lundgren-led Baghdatis in five tries, although several of their tilts, including one at Wimbledon two years ago, made for great entertainment.



Czech Tomas Berdych could be heading into journeyman status if he doesn't start raising his game, and a possible third-round clash with Nadal looms.



Nadal has claimed their last three tussles, though Berdych has won three of their four career meetings on hard courts.



Nadal's scheduled quarterfinal opponent is Ferrer, a match-up that would provide yet more interest. Ferrer overcame Nadal in their previous two hard-court matches, using his inside-out forehand to good effect.



Prediction: Nadal




Semifinals



Fellow Americans Mardy Fish and Roddick ended their jinxes against Federer this season, so Blake should be as confident as one can be despite losing all eight matches against him and taking a solitary set.



Nadal used his lefty serve effectively at Wimbledon, but how will it fare on hard courts? He claimed just 58 percent of points behind his first serve in a crushing 6-3, 6-2 loss to Djokovic in the Pacific Life Open semifinals in March and is 1-3 in their latest four hard-court duels.



Prediction: Federer, Djokovic to advance




Final



With every cloud comes a silver lining. Djokovic's earlier than anticipated exit in London surely gave him time to recharge for his favorite part of the campaign. On the other hand, Federer won't need any extra motivation, since Djokovic apparently riled him with some comments on the eve of Wimbledon.



Prediction: Djokovic




Ravi Ubha is a frequent contributor to ESPN.com.

rocketassist
07-22-2008, 04:20 PM
In a cartoon character sense, I'd compare him to Big Mouth from the Smurfs.

Corey Feldman
07-22-2008, 04:27 PM
I see big mouth thinks he's the fave for this event

byeee byeee mein jokerer

Manon
07-22-2008, 04:45 PM
Because of things like this, for example:

-SdfhhYJsJ8



What do you know from july and MTF????

I see big mouth thinks he's the fave for this event

byeee byeee mein jokerer

Not true again.

What am I doing here?


In a cartoon character sense, I'd compare him to Big Mouth from the Smurfs.

Yes, I saw your blond hair. Scary.

rocketassist
07-22-2008, 04:46 PM
Has everyone got my pics from the pic thread saved to their favourites or something? :confused: :lol:

Manon
07-22-2008, 04:48 PM
Has everyone got my pics from the pic thread saved to their favourites or something? :confused: :lol:

Unlucky for me it's all over FB. Speaking of cartoons.

rocketassist
07-22-2008, 04:50 PM
Unlucky for me it's all over FB. Speaking of cartoons.

Facebook?

MacTheKnife
07-22-2008, 04:51 PM
He is not the only one in the history of tennis that didn't keep his mouth shut. The one in your avatar also had a motor-mouth. Djokovic is barely 21 so cut him some slack. I have changed my opinion about Novak and his talking, I was wrong before. Even if he is not one of my favourites, I wish him well.

And I said the same thing about him, only with a lot more enthusiasm. He shot his mouth off on the court. (drove me crazy) Doesn't mean other players don't need to learn the same thing.

dusk
07-22-2008, 04:53 PM
check this out. this espn writer has Djokovic winning the tournament.



This tournament will definitely be The tournament for Djokovic to show how he is dealing with the pressure at this stage of his career. He failed to defend Miami title, so let's see if he's ready now.

As for Rafa, despite his knees problems, I think he still has a good chance of winning this tournament again. This year, more so.

The biggest pressure is definitely on Federer. This is the point where he has to dig deep to prove things to himself (in the first place).

The intensity for top 3 is so big that I can't see anyone else capturing the title this year.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 04:55 PM
This tournament will definitely be The tournament for Djokovic to show how he is dealing with the pressure at this stage of his career. He failed to defend Miami title, so let's see if he's ready now.

As for Rafa, despite his knees problems, I think he still has a good chance of winning this tournament again. This year, more so.

The biggest pressure is definitely on Federer. This is the point where he has to dig deep to prove things to himself (in the first place).

The intensity for top 3 is so big that I can't see anyone else capturing the title this year.


affirmative.

Manon
07-22-2008, 04:58 PM
Doesn't mean other players don't need to learn the same thing.

Than say it in their threads. Gosh, this forum should be renamed.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 05:04 PM
1 Rafael Nadal ESP 62 55 7 0.887 7 1
2 Roger Federer SUI 52 43 9 0.827 4 1
3 Nikolay Davydenko RUS 49 38 11 0.776 3 0
4 David Ferrer ESP 48 35 13 0.729 4 2
5 Fernando Verdasco ESP 47 30 17 0.638 5 1
6 Novak Djokovic SRB 46 38 8 0.826 8 0
7 James Blake USA 44 30 14 0.682 2 0
8 Igor Andreev RUS 44 25 19 0.568 0 3
9 Nicolas Almagro ESP 42 30 12 0.714 0 0
10 Gilles Simon FRA

you will note that the Clay Monster has played tour leading 62 matches and won 55 of them. he has lost just 7 matches. his winning % is astounding 88%+. Djokovic has not done all that bad.

based on these stats for 2008, Fed`s winning % is almost identical to Djokovic`s winning %. Fed has lost only 9 times this year while Djokovic has 8 losses.

also one may take the time to note that Djokovic has a slam and 2 masters events (indian wells and rome) in his back pocket for the year. he would have won the French Open, Queens, and at Hamburg had Nadal not been around.

its time to cut him some slack. the guy is barely 21. he may surprise us again.

Nathaliia
07-22-2008, 05:05 PM
If I hear/read Novak saying "I still have a lot to learn" one more time, I will throw up.
It's an old line of Sharapova, I guess they have the same PR consultant.

rocketassist
07-22-2008, 05:06 PM
1 Rafael Nadal ESP 62 55 7 0.887 7 1
2 Roger Federer SUI 52 43 9 0.827 4 1
3 Nikolay Davydenko RUS 49 38 11 0.776 3 0
4 David Ferrer ESP 48 35 13 0.729 4 2
5 Fernando Verdasco ESP 47 30 17 0.638 5 1
6 Novak Djokovic SRB 46 38 8 0.826 8 0
7 James Blake USA 44 30 14 0.682 2 0
8 Igor Andreev RUS 44 25 19 0.568 0 3
9 Nicolas Almagro ESP 42 30 12 0.714 0 0
10 Gilles Simon FRA


based on these stats for 2008, Fed`s winning % is almost identical to Djokovic`s winning %. Fed has lost only 9 times this year while Djokovic has 8 losses.

also one may take the time to note that Djokovic has a slam and 2 masters events (indian wells and rome) in his back pocket for the year. he would have won the French Open, Queens, and at Hamburg had Nadal not been around.

its time to cut him some slack. the guy is barely 21. he may surprise us again.

Won the french and Hamburg? No, they would have been Federer's.

Manon
07-22-2008, 05:08 PM
It's an old line of Sharapova, I guess they have the same PR consultant.

Problem! He didn't say that recently. Noone wants to know if it's true or not. Just shoot.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 05:08 PM
Won the french and Hamburg? No, they would have been Federer's.


negative. you obviously missed Djokovic`s matches there then. check them out. he played incredible tennis against Nadal in Hamburg and then again in Paris.

T2KN
07-22-2008, 05:13 PM
Ha. Djokovic can be a bit delusional but all in all he doesn't really seem like that bad a guy. :shrug: Judging from the criticism on here, you'd think he's a creature puked out by a demon in hell or something.

I'm quite sure he'll have a great HC season and think he'll defend his title in Toronto.

rocketassist
07-22-2008, 05:16 PM
negative. you obviously missed Djokovic`s matches there then. check them out. he played incredible tennis against Nadal in Hamburg and then again in Paris.

Hamburg is Fed's tournament and best clay event, while RG-similar Monte Carlo had Federer owning his ass till he decided to throw in the towel.

You're overrating Djokovic- he's good, but he's not in the league of the two men above him. Only on hard courts is he their equal.

DhammaTiger
07-22-2008, 05:36 PM
Won the french and Hamburg? No, they would have been Federer's.

What makes you so sure it would have been Federer's?

rocketassist
07-22-2008, 05:38 PM
What makes you so sure it would have been Federer's?

Explanation above- Federer is better than Djokovic on clay, regardless of what theories CD throws back. I would back Federer 70% on clay, 95% on grass and 55% on hard if they meet.

DhammaTiger
07-22-2008, 05:43 PM
And I said the same thing about him, only with a lot more enthusiasm. He shot his mouth off on the court. (drove me crazy) Doesn't mean other players don't need to learn the same thing.

You are a very fair poster and i am sorry, I used your post as a quote. But my point stands. The guy is very young and doesn't deserve all this hatred. We have all said brash things in our life and then grew out of them. So, he is young he will learn. Even Federer has said many arrogant things in his career why isn't he picked on with the same venom that is reserved for Novak Djokovic? It seems to me some players are picked on by the thought police that seem to dictate what player is to be dissed and what player to be worshiped. There is a cabal on GM that seem to be ready to pounce on any thread if the player is not to their liking. The cabal seem to be made up of a certain fan group of a certain player. It's a shame really.

DhammaTiger
07-22-2008, 05:47 PM
Explanation above- Federer is better than Djokovic on clay, regardless of what theories CD throws back. I would back Federer 70% on clay, 95% on grass and 55% on hard if they meet.

No you are wrong no amount of statistics you throw vcan change what really happens on a tennis court on any any particular day. So, if we go by your standards how come Federer lost to Stepanek on clay in Rome this year. Every match has many variables and on a particular day the performance of any player depends on circumstances. So no one can ever say that if it was not for Nadal, such and such player would win.

rocketassist
07-22-2008, 05:50 PM
No you are wrong no amount of statistics you throw vcan change what really happens on a tennis court on any any particular day. So, if we go by your standards how come Federer lost to Stepanek on clay in Rome this year. Every match has many variables and on a particular day the performance of any player depends on circumstances. So no one can ever say that if it was not for Nadal, such and such player would win.

Tennis is about match ups and I think Federer matches up well with Djokovic, Djokovic well with Nadal and Nadal well with Federer.

Corey Feldman
07-22-2008, 05:51 PM
Nole cant match up to the cardie
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/SARAH1789_2007/Wimbledon20084brighter.jpg

BigJohn
07-22-2008, 05:59 PM
You're overrating Djokovic- he's good, but he's not in the league of the two men above him. Only on hard courts is he their equal.

I'd wait and see how Djokovic can defend points before putting him as equal with Federer and Nadal. The big 2 have been at the top for so long. For Djokovic to be considered an equal, he would have to stay top 3 for a longer period of time than what he has showed.
One year at #3 is good, but nowhere near what Nadal and Federer have done.

I know you were talking about his game on HC, there is no denying he can play well on this surface, but the ability to defend points is IMO an important aspect to consider.

zeleni
07-22-2008, 06:36 PM
Nole is a very smart guy...

arm
07-22-2008, 08:02 PM
:haha: amazing how every single thread about Djokovic turns into a bashing thread... :rolleyes:

And he said he still has a lot to learn, I wonder how some guys here would react if he had said he already knew everything. :haha: :silly:

Lee
07-22-2008, 08:16 PM
:haha: amazing how every single thread about Djokovic turns into a bashing thread... :rolleyes:

And he said he still has a lot to learn, I wonder how some guys here would react if he had said he already knew everything. :haha: :silly:

Post the same things being post here ;)

MacTheKnife
07-22-2008, 08:43 PM
You are a very fair poster and i am sorry, I used your post as a quote. But my point stands. The guy is very young and doesn't deserve all this hatred. We have all said brash things in our life and then grew out of them. So, he is young he will learn. Even Federer has said many arrogant things in his career why isn't he picked on with the same venom that is reserved for Novak Djokovic? It seems to me some players are picked on by the thought police that seem to dictate what player is to be dissed and what player to be worshiped. There is a cabal on GM that seem to be ready to pounce on any thread if the player is not to their liking. The cabal seem to be made up of a certain fan group of a certain player. It's a shame really.

Hey, I am a McEnroe fan and have been forever. I understand about my favorite player getting bashed. Heck I even bashed Mac myself many times. But, I just think a lot of it comes with the territory. I agree there are some players on MTF that seem to get bashed more than others, but most players seem to get some degree of bashing on a regular basis. Heck, we posters bash each other, I guess the players are fair game too.

One thing for sure, there is no discrimination when it comes to who gets bashed here.

arm
07-22-2008, 09:00 PM
Hey, I am a McEnroe fan and have been forever. I understand about my favorite player getting bashed. Heck I even bashed Mac myself many times. But, I just think a lot of it comes with the territory. I agree there are some players on MTF that seem to get bashed more than others, but most players seem to get some degree of bashing on a regular basis. Heck, we posters bash each other, I guess the players are fair game too.

One thing for sure, there is no discrimination when it comes to who gets bashed here.

:confused: Are you serious?

FedFan_2007
07-22-2008, 09:04 PM
Nadal is so scary good right now that he'll just blow away every field from here to 2011.

MacTheKnife
07-22-2008, 09:06 PM
:confused: Are you serious?

Thought you were going to write, "YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS" :bolt:

arm
07-22-2008, 09:07 PM
Thought you were going to write, "YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS" :bolt:

:haha: Want me to edit it for you? I can if you want. :hug:

Lee
07-22-2008, 09:08 PM
Thought you were going to write, "YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS" :bolt:

Shouldn't CANNOT be one word :lol: :bolt:

Manon
07-22-2008, 09:18 PM
Nole is a very smart guy...

Of course. True http://usera.imagecave.com/Manon/kuzya.gif

MacTheKnife
07-22-2008, 09:19 PM
:haha: Want me to edit it for you? I can if you want. :hug:

You're fine... I get your point..

As for the one word question, he11 I don't know.. I'll look it up.. One thing for sure, I CAN NOT (CANNOT) spell !!!

Update: Looked it up and both are acceptable, but CANNOT is "far more common". Will update my sig immediately.

DhammaTiger
07-22-2008, 09:23 PM
You're fine... I get your point..

As for the one word question, he11 I don't know.. I'll look it up.. One thing for sure, I CAN NOT (CANNOT) spell !!!

Update: Looked it up and both are acceptable, but CANNOT is "far more common". Will update my sig immediately.

:hug:

Lee
07-22-2008, 09:30 PM
You're fine... I get your point..

As for the one word question, he11 I don't know.. I'll look it up.. One thing for sure, I CAN NOT (CANNOT) spell !!!

Update: Looked it up and both are acceptable, but CANNOT is "far more common". Will update my sig immediately.


:lol:

wildegirl05
07-22-2008, 09:35 PM
:haha: amazing how every single thread about Djokovic turns into a bashing thread... :rolleyes:
And he said he still has a lot to learn, I wonder how some guys here would react if he had said he already knew everything. :haha: :silly:

yes, nearly as amazing how it doesn't happen to any other player on this board. oh wait.


You are a very fair poster and i am sorry, I used your post as a quote. But my point stands. The guy is very young and doesn't deserve all this hatred. We have all said brash things in our life and then grew out of them. So, he is young he will learn. Even Federer has said many arrogant things in his career why isn't he picked on with the same venom that is reserved for Novak Djokovic? It seems to me some players are picked on by the thought police that seem to dictate what player is to be dissed and what player to be worshiped. There is a cabal on GM that seem to be ready to pounce on any thread if the player is not to their liking. The cabal seem to be made up of a certain fan group of a certain player. It's a shame really.

:worship: you've cracked open a conspiracy. :eek: i'll wait for the big movie release after your book on this subject makes millions. :cool:

arm
07-22-2008, 09:41 PM
yes, nearly as amazing how it doesn't happen to any other player on this board. oh wait.

:worship: you've cracked open a conspiracy. :eek: i'll wait for the big movie release after your book on this subject makes millions. :cool:

If you really believe every player is equally bashed here, re-read this forum.

Manon
07-22-2008, 09:45 PM
If you really believe every player is equally bashed here, re-read this forum.

Be quiet, she likes to give red:cool:

wildegirl05
07-22-2008, 09:46 PM
If you really believe every player is equally bashed here, re-read this forum.

must be my mistake - clearly i just haven't drunk the koolaid :rolleyes:

arm
07-22-2008, 09:48 PM
must be my mistake - clearly i just haven't drunk the koolaid :rolleyes:

Yes, it must indeed be.

wildegirl05
07-22-2008, 09:49 PM
Yes, it must indeed be.

to rectify it atleast a little bit, i'll contribute right away to your martyr complex! i think nole's an asshat. hope that helps :D :wavey:

arm
07-22-2008, 09:53 PM
to rectify it atleast a little bit, i'll contribute right away to your martyr complex! i think nole's an asshat. hope that helps :D :wavey:

:haha: You think you're telling me anything I didn't already know?

PS: I hope you dont feel offended, but I don't really care about what you think about Nole. :hug:

wildegirl05
07-22-2008, 09:55 PM
:haha: You think you're telling me anything I didn't already know?

PS: I hope you dont feel offended, but I don't really care about what you think about Nole. :hug:

not at all! i think that's the right attitude. try and stick with it anytime you see folks dissing him :yeah: it's a vast improvement over whining, imo :hug:

arm
07-22-2008, 09:56 PM
not at all! i think that's the right attitude. try and stick with it anytime you see folks dissing him :yeah: it's a vast improvement over whining, imo :hug:

:)

DhammaTiger
07-22-2008, 10:00 PM
yes, nearly as amazing how it doesn't happen to any other player on this board. oh wait.




:worship: you've cracked open a conspiracy. :eek: i'll wait for the big movie release after your book on this subject makes millions. :cool:

Your sarcasm won't get you anywhere.

wildegirl05
07-22-2008, 10:01 PM
Your sarcasm won't get you anywhere.

well, duh. martyrdom is where it's at:dance: everybody knows that!

DhammaTiger
07-22-2008, 10:26 PM
well, duh. martyrdom is where it's at:dance: everybody knows that!

I am not into martyrdom and neither do I advocate it. Enough of that. I think we are off topic and it is no use arguing about different perceptions.

BigJohn
07-22-2008, 10:26 PM
If you really believe every player is equally bashed here, re-read this forum.


It is true, Djokovic reveives more negative comments than most players, but then again, he's done more than other player to attrack those negative comments.

The guy pretty much hyped himself more than any other player I can remember, and I'm older than you. And since he actually believes in his own hype, it makes him sound arrogant. I mean a book called "My First Grand Slam"? WTF?

There is also the topic of respect. Or lack of. The matchs he questionably abandonned matchs were disrespectful to fans and opponents. The smirk when he gets called for the over bouncing, staring at the crowd when they cheer for the other guy, that is attitude I really really despise.

And then there is disrespect towards Federer:

"Some things are changing. I think he's a little bit shaken with that loss and mentally he has been struggling in the last couple of months. It's normal to have ups and downs after four years of absolute dominance on the men's tour.

New names are coming, fresh talented players who believe more they can win against him and I am one of them, suddenly he is worried a little bit."

(I won't comment about the mom's famour quote or the dad, he's not responsible for his parents, but it does not make me like him more)

If he just shut up, played great tennis and showed some respect, I'm sure there would be a lot less negative comments about him.

Manon
07-22-2008, 10:47 PM
And then there is disrespect towards Federer:

"Some things are changing. I think he's a little bit shaken with that loss and mentally he has been struggling in the last couple of months. It's normal to have ups and downs after four years of absolute dominance on the men's tour.

New names are coming, fresh talented players who believe more they can win against him and I am one of them, suddenly he is worried a little bit."


This is disrespect? This was/is truth (as we know now). All credits to Federer but is he untouchible? I guess not.

finishingmove
07-22-2008, 10:49 PM
6 pages...

boring day , yes?

tennizen
07-22-2008, 10:56 PM
This is disrespect? This was/is truth (as we know now). All credits to Federer but is he untouchible? I guess not.

I don't think it was necessary for Djokovic to say that. He could have proved it in his actions. The statement is not disrespectful but as a fellow player he should keep some thoughts to himself.

Herdwick
07-22-2008, 10:59 PM
He only does it to annoy because he knows it teases....

Lee
07-22-2008, 10:59 PM
I don't think it was necessary for Djokovic to say that. He could have proved it in his actions. The statement is not disrespectful but as a fellow player he should keep some thoughts to himself.

Plus all his fans on this board should just shut up and not posting in GM too. They should just keep their thoughts to themselves. Otherwise, they are just a bunch of whiners, right?

BigJohn
07-22-2008, 10:59 PM
This is disrespect? This was/is truth (as we know now). All credits to Federer but is he untouchible? I guess not.

I do think it was disrespect. Especially since Federer had beaten him the last time they played. Well was about to beat him, but then Djokovic conveniently retired.

In my book, a disrespectful comment after a disrespectful retirement.

Herdwick
07-22-2008, 11:03 PM
What other sports do you delicate and respectful souls watch, apart from tennis? Soccer? American football? Boxing? And are you as critical re comments made by other sportsmen?

Just curious...

Manon
07-22-2008, 11:09 PM
I do think it was disrespect. Especially since Federer had beaten him the last time they played. Well was about to beat him, but then Djokovic conveniently retired.

In my book, a disrespectful comment after a disrespectful retirement.

He told you right before Wimbledon or, if you like, after Nadal crushed him in RG finals. I can't recall he retired after.

BigJohn
07-22-2008, 11:13 PM
What other sports do you delicate and respectful souls watch, apart from tennis? Soccer? American football? Boxing? And are you as critical re comments made by other sportsmen?

Just curious...

He told you right before Wimbledon or, if you like, after Nadal crushed him in RG finals. I can't recall he retired after.

Coming into Wimbledon, Federer was a record win streak on grass, and was the 5 times defending champ. That comment was stupid, arrogant and uncalled for. Just my opinion.

arm
07-22-2008, 11:13 PM
:lol:

Honestly, we are always having these kind of discussions but we never come to a conclusion.

Some people like him, some don't. I just wish everyone could respect him.

Herdwick
07-22-2008, 11:15 PM
Coming into Wimbledon, Federer was a record win streak on grass, and was the 5 times defending champ. That comment was stupid, arrogant and uncalled for. Just my opinion.

To which you are fully entitled. But you didn't answer my question...

tennizen
07-22-2008, 11:18 PM
Plus all his fans on this board should just shut up and not posting in GM too. They should just keep their thoughts to themselves. Otherwise, they are just a bunch of whiners, right?

Well they can certainly complain about it. But no one is going to respect Djokovic more because they all complain about it here on GM. What they don't realize is that MTF has just recently found a new villian in Djokovic. Before that it was Roddick and later Nadal. The Djoko fans in here feel specially persecuted. But other people have been here before.

Secondly, what I said in that statement has no connection whatsoever to this message board. The question I was addressing was if what Djokovic said was disrespectful or not.

MaryX
07-22-2008, 11:19 PM
Plus all his fans on this board should just shut up and not posting in GM too. They should just keep their thoughts to themselves. Otherwise, they are just a bunch of whiners, right?

What else?Said many times using exactly the same words.

BigJohn
07-22-2008, 11:20 PM
To which you are fully entitled. But you didn't answer my question...

It's a tennis forum buddy... ;)

(I do follow football a bit and I think Metarrazi is a prick)

zethand
07-22-2008, 11:20 PM
I think he is right. He need to learn some manners. I wonder who can teach him this, certainly his parents are helpless. Stefan Edberg?

arm
07-22-2008, 11:23 PM
I think he is right. He need to learn some manners. I wonder who can teach him this, certainly his parents are helpless. Stefan Edberg?

Maybe you could try. As far as I can see, if you can judge is manners, I am sure you could teach him some. ;)

Manon
07-22-2008, 11:25 PM
Coming into Wimbledon, Federer was a record win streak on grass, and was the 5 times defending champ. That comment was stupid, arrogant and uncalled for. Just my opinion.

Call it what you want, it was truth. Fed was shaken.

Manon
07-22-2008, 11:28 PM
I don't think it was necessary for Djokovic to say that. He could have proved it in his actions. The statement is not disrespectful but as a fellow player he should keep some thoughts to himself.

Here, this is quite alright. Would instead of should and I can completely agree with you.

Manon
07-22-2008, 11:34 PM
What else?Said many times using exactly the same words.

Whose quote is that?

BigJohn
07-22-2008, 11:38 PM
Call it what you want, it was truth. Fed was shaken.

Djokovic is not the only one who read minds... ;)

Yeah right. Federer was indeed shaken during the Gerry Weber Open when he was not broken once. :rolleyes:

Federer was shaken, actually devastated, after he lost the Wimbledon final, not before. I don't think a shaken player could have produced the level of tennis he produced against Nadal in that final.

zethand
07-22-2008, 11:41 PM
Maybe you could try. As far as I can see, if you can judge is manners, I am sure you could teach him some. ;)

hahaha No thanks! I do not like him at all! And I do not have patience. Perhaps you can find another volunteer around ;) There are many people who loves him a lot.

MaryX
07-23-2008, 12:14 AM
Whose quote is that?

Noone's really, we've (Novak's fans) been called many times for whining, etc...I agreed with Lee, that's all.

Manon
07-23-2008, 01:02 AM
Noone's really, we've (Novak's fans) been called many times for whining, etc...I agreed with Lee, that's all.

Clever move, must admit:)

arm
07-23-2008, 01:04 AM
hahaha No thanks! I do not like him at all! And I do not have patience. Perhaps you can find another volunteer around ;) There are many people who loves him a lot.

Like me. :lol:

wilmar
07-23-2008, 01:56 AM
This "I still have a lot to learn" comment was apparently an SMS sent by Novak to his PR manager (the same as Rafa's), and was released by that PR agent.
I may be biased but 2 scenarios immediately came to mind.
Firstly, Novak may not even have sent that message and it was a PR move cooked up by Novak's camp and that PR manager to do some damage control.
Secondly, if Novak did sent that message, how decent is that PR manager for releasing his clients' private message to the public? I would surely sack sack my PR manager if he leaks my confidential content out.
So either way, it does come across as shady.

Lee
07-23-2008, 02:01 AM
This "I still have a lot to learn" comment was apparently an SMS sent by Novak to his PR manager (the same as Rafa's), and was released by that PR agent.
I may be biased but 2 scenarios immediately came to mind.
Firstly, Novak may not even have sent that message and it was a PR move cooked up by Novak's camp and that PR manager to do some damage control.
Secondly, if Novak did sent that message, how decent is that PR manager for releasing his clients' private message to the public? I would surely sack sack my PR manager if he leaks my confidential content out.
So either way, it does come across as shady.


Please try to read the first post again.

wilmar
07-23-2008, 02:16 AM
Please try to read the first post again.

I did read the first post before my reply.
And if Federer can be even brought into this discussion (re:the ealier replies), why is mine made to be out of topic?

And if you so want a straight reply, Novak needs to improve on his fitness and level of consistency, and check on his ego. He was so niave and over-confident he could leap-frog to #1 just like that. He wanted an easy way to do that. By trashing talking and getting into the Top 2's heads. I'm sure he realises now how mentally tough those two are. He should focus more on his own game rather than his opponents.

Manon
07-23-2008, 02:21 AM
I did read the first post before my reply.
And if Federer can be even brought into this discussion (re:the ealier replies), why is mine made to be out of topic?

And if you so want a straight reply, Novak needs to improve on his fitness and level of consistency, and check on his ego. He was so niave and over-confident he could leap-frog to #1 just like that. He wanted an easy way to do that. By trashing talking and getting into the Top 2's heads. I'm sure he realises now how mentally tough those two are. He should focus more on his own game rather than his opponents.

This is kind of LOST watching 100 times. How many clons are here?

:wavey: wilmar

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-23-2008, 02:28 AM
why is he so unpopular at mtf?

He is unpopular at mtf because mtf is infected with Fedtards and people who think like them.

They cant take the fact that a man stood up and said enough to Feds BS and kicked his ass at the AO.

He doesnt kiss Feds ass by saying he is the best, he just kicks his ass.

Djokovic is what tennis needed. An in your face guy who stands up to prancing idiots everywhere.

Clay Death
07-23-2008, 02:37 AM
He is unpopular at mtf because mtf is infected with Fedtards and people who think like them.

They cant take the fact that a man stood up and said enough to Feds BS and kicked his ass at the AO.

He doesnt kiss Feds ass by saying he is the best, he just kicks his ass.

Djokovic is what tennis needed. An in your face guy who stands up to prancing idiots everywhere.


affirmative. he is the one who went to Tipsy just before his match against Fed at the Australian Open and told him to not go out here "waving a white flag".

wilmar
07-23-2008, 02:42 AM
This is kind of LOST watching 100 times. How many clons are here?

:wavey: wilmar

:wavey: Manon!:D

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-23-2008, 02:46 AM
affirmative. he is the one who went to Tipsy just before his match against Fed at the Australian Open and told him to not go out here "waving a white flag".

True.

He told Tipsy to man up before the match and the guy took Fed to 5 sets. If most ATP players had stopped being pansies a few years ago, there would have been true competition from 2004-2007.

Thank God for Nole and Rafa.

sanshisan
07-23-2008, 02:51 AM
This "I still have a lot to learn" comment was apparently an SMS sent by Novak to his PR manager (the same as Rafa's), and was released by that PR agent.
I may be biased but 2 scenarios immediately came to mind.
Firstly, Novak may not even have sent that message and it was a PR move cooked up by Novak's camp and that PR manager to do some damage control.
Secondly, if Novak did sent that message, how decent is that PR manager for releasing his clients' private message to the public? I would surely sack sack my PR manager if he leaks my confidential content out.
So either way, it does come across as shady.


Pick pick pick pick :zzz: like a chicken over barren ground

Is that the best you can do? Mah Gawd. So silly.

sanshisan
07-23-2008, 02:55 AM
True.

He told Tipsy to man up before the match and the guy took Fed to 5 sets. If most ATP players had stopped being pansies a few years ago, there would have been true competition from 2004-2007.

Thank God for Nole and Rafa.



Now THAT is a well thought out statement worth reading. :)

sanshisan
07-23-2008, 02:58 AM
He is unpopular at mtf because mtf is infected with Fedtards and people who think like them.

They cant take the fact that a man stood up and said enough to Feds BS and kicked his ass at the AO.

He doesnt kiss Feds ass by saying he is the best, he just kicks his ass.

Djokovic is what tennis needed. An in your face guy who stands up to prancing idiots everywhere.


Well Done. Hopefully Djokovic can kick Feds ass a few more times too. :)

Clay Death
07-23-2008, 03:07 AM
Now THAT is a well thought out statement worth reading. :)


thank god for the Clay Monster and the Serbian Slayer indeed. we need more competition at the top, not less. its better for the sport.

wilmar
07-23-2008, 03:09 AM
Pick pick pick pick :zzz: like a chicken over barren ground

Is that the best you can do? Mah Gawd. So silly.

pick on me for all you want, but please use the multi-quote function if you want to reply to more than one post please.
thank you

Lee
07-23-2008, 03:46 AM
This "I still have a lot to learn" comment was apparently an SMS sent by Novak to his PR manager (the same as Rafa's), and was released by that PR agent.
I may be biased but 2 scenarios immediately came to mind.
Firstly, Novak may not even have sent that message and it was a PR move cooked up by Novak's camp and that PR manager to do some damage control.
Secondly, if Novak did sent that message, how decent is that PR manager for releasing his clients' private message to the public? I would surely sack sack my PR manager if he leaks my confidential content out.
So either way, it does come across as shady.

I did read the first post before my reply.
And if Federer can be even brought into this discussion (re:the ealier replies), why is mine made to be out of topic?

And if you so want a straight reply, Novak needs to improve on his fitness and level of consistency, and check on his ego. He was so niave and over-confident he could leap-frog to #1 just like that. He wanted an easy way to do that. By trashing talking and getting into the Top 2's heads. I'm sure he realises now how mentally tough those two are. He should focus more on his own game rather than his opponents.

If your really read the first post before your reply, then you should know the "I still have a lot to learn" quote in this thread came from Jelena Gencic as per the OP, not about what you said in your first post here.

Doggy
07-23-2008, 05:00 AM
I don't understand why ppl hate Nole. He has a penis, ya know?

Knightmace
07-23-2008, 05:03 AM
because he's the one who started serving humble pie at AO, that dylan here is about to choke on vomiting it.
Meaning?

MariaV
07-23-2008, 08:00 AM
PS: I hope you dont feel offended, but I don't really care about what you think about Nole. :hug:

If you don't care what people here think about Nole then why you keep on whining about how he is the most bashed/hated/unpopular player here on MTF? :scratch: :confused:

tennizen
07-23-2008, 10:02 AM
thank god for the Clay Monster and the Serbian Slayer indeed. we need more competition at the top, not less. its better for the sport.

Clay D , we need a new name for Rafa. Clay Monster, while being quite accurate is a bit outdated. Now that he has beaten Fed at Wimbledon(giving the Federeresians much cause for unrest) we have to get a new title. I'm sure your creativity will shine through as always:hatoff:

cocrcici
07-23-2008, 10:52 AM
I don't understand why ppl hate Nole. He has a penis, ya know?

:confused:

Herdwick
07-23-2008, 11:27 AM
Clay D , we need a new name for Rafa. Clay Monster, while being quite accurate is a bit outdated. Now that he has beaten Fed at Wimbledon(giving the Federeresians much cause for unrest) we have to get a new title. I'm sure your creativity will shine through as always:hatoff:

Good point - seconded.

CD - your chance to rise to the challenge. We are counting on you...

arm
07-23-2008, 11:46 AM
If you don't care what people here think about Nole then why you keep on whining about how he is the most bashed/hated/unpopular player here on MTF? :scratch: :confused:

Clearly because I have nothing else to do. Oh and also because stupidity amuses me. ;) :lol:

bokehlicious
07-23-2008, 11:47 AM
Raquel, don't be upset :hug: :hug: just ignore that bunch of jealous hating no lifers :( :o

:lol: :p

arm
07-23-2008, 11:48 AM
Raquel, don't be upset :hug: :hug: just ignore that bunch of jealous hating no lifers :( :o

:lol: :p

You're such a sweet heart. :hearts::hug:

:lol:

tennizen
07-23-2008, 02:55 PM
Having criticized him in the past for his outspoken interviews, I am pleasantly surprised by this interview. I think the bashing should stop for a while:D He was very complimentary to both Federer and Nadal over the Wimbledon final

Q. Just want to talk about your game. Frank said that you were on balance and ready for every ball, and he was really surprised, you surprised him with a lot of returns. Did you feel that, or were you surprised by a lot his returns in return?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, I was trying to focus on my game, and this was a key fact, I think. One of the most important shots against Frank was return today. I was returning really well, and I was happy with that stroke.
I was very consistent throughout the match. I had little ups and downs with the serve. When I needed to serve it out at 5-3 second set I didn't make any of the first serves, which was not good.
But then I managed to hold my concentration in the next game. He was serving extremely well. High percentage of the first serve, especially in the first set, which was making my job a bit tougher.
But I was aware that he doesn't have anything to lose obviously. A big Canadian hope playing in front of his crowd. Big support. There was a lot of people today. Really, really good atmosphere to play in.
Always the first matches are the most trickiest ones trying to keep the balance. I was happy with the way I was moving. Of course, there are still some things that I was not really happy about, but it's still only a first match.

Q. You mentioned the big Canadian crowd. Did you notice the number of Serbian flags, and did you hear the marriage proposal that you got?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: I heard them bigtime. Really happy for that. I wanted to thank them, of course, for coming and supporting me. It's a big community here, Serbians. About 100,000 Sers in Toronto and in surroundings.
It's great to have so many people supporting you from your country. I think it makes you really happy and proud and excited to just play in front of them.
And not just them. I felt that the Canadian crowd really appreciate my victory last year and they are happy to see me again. It's my pleasure to play in front of this crowd.

Q. Did you accept the marriage proposal that you got?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Marriage proposal?

Q. A woman yelled out, Marry me Novak.
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Really? How much money did she get? (Laughter)

Q. What did you think of Frank's game tonight?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, I felt that he was serving well, as I mentioned before, but maybe he was a little bit too defensive in the baseline rallies. I took advantage of it. You know, I tried to be patient, you know, wait for my opportunities.
I knew that I'm going to get those throughout the match, but I wanted to be aggressive at the same time. Not to allow him to take advantage of the shots and just get to the net, because I know that in these moments he's the most dangerous. It's what he did in the first match I was watching against Ancic. He was returning well and playing very wisely.
Today he was maybe too defensive but he was serving very well.

Q. There's been so much talk over the past couple weeks about the Wimbledon men's final with Federer and Nadal. It was almost as though people stopped thinking about you for a little while --
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Really?

Q. -- despite the great year you had. Is this part of, I mean, tonight, in this tournament to sort of say there's three big players in the world right now, not just two?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, of course. I'm just happy to be a part of this group with the two best players in the world. Obviously they show their quality and they're improving year after year.
Even after four years of dominance of the two players they're still continuing to play fantastic tennis. I think they played maybe even the best match of the history in that Wimbledon final. I mean, they deserve that role: two best players of the world.
Me being right behind them and trying to be a big challenge for them, I think I did a great job in the first six months of the year. I was getting pretty closer and winning a Grand Slam and couple more major events.
I don't want put an extra pressure on myself. I'm just trying to focus on my way, on my career, and try to get the game as best as possible, as perfect as possible, improve on some things.
There are still some things and elements in the game that I need to improve on so I can be complete player.

Q. Roger Federer said just before the tournament that you were very strong on this surface, and he actually thought that the two of you were perhaps the best on hard courts and that Rafa was slightly behind the two of you. Does that fit with your assessment or not?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: You know, every surface is different. You have so many difference in today's surfaces. You have clay, grass, hard court. I mean, you just have to be complete so you can hold on with those two guys.
I mean, you have to be consistent with your results on every surface that you play. They're all-round players. Rafa, you know, I don't think many people believe that he can win Wimbledon three years ago because of the style of his play. But he was playing in the last three years two final and he won Wimbledon, and he absolutely deserved it. He's improving day after day.
And Roger, of course, being No. 1 player of the world is still playing fantastic tennis. I feel very confident and very comfortable playing on this surface. It's my favorite one and the surface where I achieved my biggest results in my career, so I really look forward to this season.
But I don't know, I wouldn't like to rank myself as the best player on this surface or not. I'm still the third player of the world, so I think this is what counts.

Q. How much is winning here in and of itself very important, and how much is it just preparation for the US Open?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: It's very important. US Open is the most important event on this surface for everybody. But to play well in Masters Series events is -- in Canada and Cincinnati is quite important, you know, so you can get a lot of the matches and get a good preparation for the Flushing Meadows.

Q. I don't know if you answered this, but are you going to the Olympics?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Yes.

Q. How important is that for you to win in Beijing?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Very, very important. Of course, every player has different opinion and different position on that. But for me, Olympics is one of the priority -- most priority events in my career.
I never participate in, for me, the biggest event in sports, so it's going to be a big honor and just pleasure. I'm very excited to meet the best professional athletes all around the world in a lot of different sports.
Just being around them in the Olympic village is great experience. Who knows what's going to happen in four years, so it's important for me being there.

Q. Would winning the Olympics be equal to a Wimbledon victory, or better?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: I think yes. It has a big value for me.

Q. You're established in third position. It's a big up between next and Nadal. Do you plan to attack Nadal and Roger Federer and to get closer to them?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: I'm not planning to attack them. I wouldn't call it like that. I'm just trying to attack the ball on the tennis court. That's what I'm trying to do: be aggressive and results will come.
I'm not really in a lot of tension and pressure that I need to reach the second or the first place in the world in this year or next year. I'm only 21. I have all the time in the world. Just need to be healthy and keep on playing well.

fsoica
07-23-2008, 03:02 PM
Having criticized him in the past for his outspoken interviews, I am pleasantly surprised by this interview. I think the bashing should stop for a while:D He was very complimentary to both Federer and Nadal over the Wimbledon final

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i love this guy now, but i was loving nadal even more when he seemed to go to no. 3 in the world. I hope at the end of the year i'll love them both big time, as no. 2 and 3 in the world :devil:

DhammaTiger
07-23-2008, 03:10 PM
Thank you for posting the interview tennizen:hug: I am happy to have read it and it confirms to be that he is learning a lot step by step, as a player and as a person. Everyone grows and everyone changes. Annicca, dukkha,anatta.

T2KN
07-23-2008, 05:13 PM
That interview was a really nice read. I like him when he's acting grounded.

Lurker011
07-23-2008, 05:22 PM
did you guys know that djokovic's dad attacked a serbian tv commentator during his sons match with nadal.

Sunset of Age
07-23-2008, 05:47 PM
did you guys know that djokovic's dad attacked a serbian tv commentator during his sons match with nadal.

Yes we all know that. Old, boring news. Let it go. Besides that, Nole is NOT his dad. :(
Djoko is improving ... good to read! :yeah:

DhammaTiger
07-23-2008, 09:08 PM
did you guys know that djokovic's dad attacked a serbian tv commentator during his sons match with nadal.

Why do you bring this up here? This thread is discussing Novak's interview not the action of his father or anyone else for that matter. No Child is responsible for the actions of his/parents and no parent is responsible for the action of their children. All of us are responsible for our own kamma that we create, good bad or neutral.

Vida
07-23-2008, 09:43 PM
Very nice interview, thanks tennizen.

Seems like he is indeed learning. Thats something I always liked about him, ability to rebound and learn from the past. He will be under watchful eye regarding what he talks, and will most likely look to avoid further blunders.

Speaking about Fed as vulnerable would now seam as beating a dead horse.