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Tim Henman: Nadal Is The Best Player In 2008

Clay Death
07-21-2008, 02:18 PM
Tim Henman says forget the numbers. Its only a matter of time before the numbers catch up. I think he tells it like it is. What do you think? check out this interesting article from him. What more does Nadal need to prove this year. he has 6 titles already and 2 of them are the monster slams--Roland Garros and Wimbledon. this is one of the most difficult achievements in tennis. Last time it happend was nearly 30 years ago. also when was the last time somebody won Roland Garros, Queens, and Wimby?

By Tim Henman
Former British number one


Rafael Nadal's victory over Roger Federer in the 2008 Wimbledon men's final is the best match I have ever seen.

There is no doubt about that. The way that it ebbed and flowed with Nadal dominating, Federer hanging in there and the rain delays, I simply don't know what more you could have in a tennis match.

I cannot think of a better match in history, everyone was talking about last year's final being the best ever, but for me Nadal's win is the best match I've ever seen.

And the fact it came in a Wimbledon final makes it extra special.


I think the world order has changed and it's just a matter of time before it is recognised in the rankings

Tim Henman It's so tough to pinpoint one area where Nadal won it. There was barely anything to separate them; it just came down to a question of the Spaniard's endurance and his sheer determination.

I think the world order has changed and it's just a matter of time before it is recognised in the rankings.

Federer remains as the world number one, but Nadal has been the best player in the world in 2008 and is sure to end Federer's incredible run as world number one. Nadal isn't top of the rankings yet because it's measured over a 12-month period but I'd be very, very surprised if it doesn't happen.

It's going to be a very long road back for five-time Wimbledon champion Federer. Wimbledon is the tournament he cherishes more than anything and this defeat will hurt.

He is too good a player not to bounce back from this, but it will be tough especially following his heavy loss to Nadal in the French Open final a few weeks back.

606: DEBATE
Well... what can be said about that match. It had drama, excitement, rain and tears!!

nathanavfc

He doesn't need to change anything in his game; it will be psychologically that he will have to recover.

As for Nadal dominating Wimbledon over the next few years, I don't think he will win five in a row like Federer has, but he will be extremely tough to beat.

The way he has adapted his game and made improvements on grass has been a real joy to watch.

His character is such that he will continue to work hard, progress and improve.

And that is a scary thought for men's tennis.

Tim Henman was talking to Paul Birch

octatennis
07-21-2008, 02:25 PM
that henman is a genius.

Black Adam
07-21-2008, 02:25 PM
Welcome back.
Nadal has so fewpoints left to defend, he should reach number 1 soon even if Fed defends all he has to defend.

tennizen
07-21-2008, 02:27 PM
Old friend Clay Death :woohoo: You are back in time to see the Clay/Grass monster rule the hard court season:yeah:

Clay Death
07-21-2008, 02:35 PM
Welcome back.
Nadal has so fewpoints left to defend, he should reach number 1 soon even if Fed defends all he has to defend.


its good to be back black adam. i am not entirely certain that the clay monster needs to risk any serious problems with his knees for now. he can have the #1 ranking in time. what is far more critical for him now is to protect his health and his knees. health before anything.

he is stubburn so i am sure he will give all he has to try to make some tracks on the miserable hard courts.

the best strategy for now appears to be just protect those knees and defend his points if possible. and keep making small, incremental improvements in his game. the #1 rank will come in time.

Clay Death
07-21-2008, 02:38 PM
Old friend Clay Death :woohoo: You are back in time to see the Clay/Grass monster rule the hard court season:yeah:


thanks old friend tenniszen. i rather just see him healthy and fit for 2009.

i worry about those knees on the hard courts. the knee issue has been lingering for a year now.

there is just no need to sacrifice what he has going on clay and grass for the sake of trying to be a hero on hard courts. the #1 ranking can be had anyway with a little bit of strategy.

he is not exactly the worst player in the world on hard courts and the new Nadal is a little different anyway. he has tremendous confidence and he is quite sharp off the ground. he has transformed his thinking and his game in the last 4 months. he still needs to play it safe and not take too many chances with those knees.

PiggyGotRoasted
07-21-2008, 02:38 PM
This henman is a mug

Clay Death
07-21-2008, 02:41 PM
This henman is a mug


ah but a smart mug.

Vida
07-21-2008, 02:43 PM
Saying Rafa is the best player this year is like saying that the night is dark because there is no sun in the sky.... didn't expect nothing better from Tim. No 1. ranking is becoming more and more ridiculous. Fed has Estoril and Halle alone, if I didn't know better, I'd say computer got broken...

Nadal will look to peak and save himself for USO... Still, if he gets a chance, he'll take what he can.

btw - welcome back CD.

lalit
07-21-2008, 02:44 PM
clay death is back

Clay Death
07-21-2008, 02:51 PM
Saying Rafa is the best player this year is like saying that the night is dark because there is no sun in the sky.... didn't expect nothing better from Tim. No 1. ranking is becoming more and more ridiculous. Fed has Estoril and Halle alone, if I didn't know better, I'd say computer got broken...

Nadal will look to peak and save himself for USO... Still, if he gets a chance, he'll take what he can.

btw - welcome back CD.

thanks Vida. i am back to torment the Federereeeeeeesians who are in a constant state of mourning now anyway.

If Fed doesnt get this title in Toronto, it will be yet another pschological hit that he cant really afford to take.

as for the Clay Monster, like i said, the best strategy is to just take care of his health. he has a very busy year. the olympics will be taxing since its hard courts and he is playing both singles and doubles.

he also has 2 davis cup commitments. one of them is in september at home against the americans. lot of tennis to be played. its best to protect those knees.

Clay Death
07-21-2008, 02:52 PM
clay death is back


clay death doesnt need mtf but mtf needs clay death.

Bernard Black
07-21-2008, 03:46 PM
Good to have you back mate! I missed you over the Wimbledon fortnight.

I agree with you here, he has won two slams and had a great run so far this season so he will be a deserving number 1 if it happens.

Would still like to see him prove himself on hard courts though. I think it will be tough for him after this season's heroics so far, but we'll see.

Burrow
07-21-2008, 03:58 PM
clay death doesnt need mtf but mtf needs clay death.

so why return

DhammaTiger
07-21-2008, 04:02 PM
Rafa is the best. Vamos Rafa!

adee-gee
07-21-2008, 04:06 PM
Wow, bold comment from Timmy.

About as obvious as a post from Clay Death being crap.

Beforehand
07-21-2008, 04:20 PM
Saying Rafa is the best player this year is like saying that the night is dark because there is no sun in the sky.... didn't expect nothing better from Tim. No 1. ranking is becoming more and more ridiculous. Fed has Estoril and Halle alone, if I didn't know better, I'd say computer got broken...

Nadal will look to peak and save himself for USO... Still, if he gets a chance, he'll take what he can.

btw - welcome back CD.

CORRECTION: Federer has Estoril, Halle, Cincinnati, USO, and the TMC, with finals in Madrid and Canada, a SF in Australia, a Wimbledon final, a French Open final, final in Hamburg, final in Monte Carlo, etc.

If the numbers in the end have Nadal first, he will have earned the #1 ranking, if they don't, he won't.

Foxy
07-21-2008, 04:23 PM
ClayDeath, welcome back, mate. So good to read your posts again.
And remember, facing Nadal everyone should Pray for Death! :devil:

Herdwick
07-21-2008, 04:37 PM
CD - a warm welcome back. It has not been the same here without you.

Sunset of Age
07-21-2008, 04:49 PM
CORRECTION: Federer has Estoril, Halle, Cincinnati, USO, and the TMC, with finals in Madrid and Canada, a SF in Australia, a Wimbledon final, a French Open final, final in Hamburg, final in Monte Carlo, etc.

If the numbers in the end have Nadal first, he will have earned the #1 ranking, if they don't, he won't.

Ah, so you're actually trying to make sense in a GM thread... :hug:

Collective
07-21-2008, 05:18 PM
So Tim Henman got the 2008 "State the bloody obvious" award.

Good for him.

Xenosys
07-21-2008, 06:04 PM
Well Duh! Dim Tim. Living up to the name. Considering the guy has dominated the clay court season once again and won more than half the year's GS's so far, I think even Stevie Wonder would be inclined to think the same way.

Tenman just likes to hear the sound of his own voice. I'm sure he said exactly the same think on the BBC Website and in commentary just after Wimbledon ended this year.

Stensland
07-21-2008, 06:13 PM
welcome back, clay death!

Andi-M
07-21-2008, 06:22 PM
Clay Death :wavey:

Yup tiger Tim is spot on. Its an obvious statement however.

If Nadal starts beating Nole and Fed on a fast outdoor hardcourt then well....Fed can kiss his USO, and no 1 ranking goodbye. :wavey:

Allez
07-21-2008, 06:30 PM
Clay Death you've been missed. Welcome back :wavey:

GlennMirnyi
07-21-2008, 06:40 PM
Henman is just being a tool.

federernadalfan
07-21-2008, 06:44 PM
quite a lot of hating going on here lol

nastoff
07-21-2008, 06:51 PM
Stating the bleeding obvious? Unless Roger rediscovers some of his older form, he has no chance. The effort he put in the final was good but not enough. He acknowledged it himself that a) he wasn't playing very well or at least as well as he knows he can play b) That Nadal got nervous and choked in the 4th set - Federer said he expected to lose the match there and then c) he was hoping that by playing a little bit better in the 5th he'd somehow steal it from Nadal - but it wasn't to be. Djokovic and the rest will be fancying their chances if probably the greatest player ever lived thinks that by playing a "little bit better" and not his best he can beat them. Unless his best is now behind him of course.

Wouldn't take anything away from Rafa though. So far in this season he's the best player in the world and that is shown by the crude facts. But the most interesting part of the season starts now.

PiggyGotRoasted
07-21-2008, 07:00 PM
Come on djokovic, take the number 1 ranking before federer gets any more muggish

JolánGagó
07-21-2008, 08:32 PM
clay death doesnt need mtf but mtf needs clay death.

Glad to see you back, you're quite amusing.

Why were you banned?

Mashachosen1
07-21-2008, 08:41 PM
Rafa is the best. Vamos Rafa!

:yeah:

Black Adam
07-21-2008, 10:21 PM
Glad to see you back, you're quite amusing.

Why were you banned?
He rubbed some Moderators in the wrong way and attempted to spark a revolution to take Raging Lamb out of the picture.;)

scoobs
07-21-2008, 10:31 PM
Thanks for this, Tim. In other news now, Water is wet.

Xenosys
07-21-2008, 10:41 PM
Thanks for this, Tim. In other news now, Water is wet.

:lol:

I think that's possibly the funniest post I've seen from you Scoobs.

scoobs
07-21-2008, 10:42 PM
:lol:

I think that's possibly the funniest post I've seen from you Scoobs.
Damned with faint praise :)

JolánGagó
07-21-2008, 10:59 PM
He rubbed some Moderators in the wrong way and attempted to spark a revolution to take Raging Lamb out of the picture.;)

Geezzz that sounds terrible. Sad to see such a widely appreciated poster banned for such a long time. I cannot help genuinely asking myself whose input is more valuable to MTF: ClayDeath's or that from a moderator whose sole occupation seems to be deleting and/or editing other people's posts at random. :shrug:

RogerFan82
07-21-2008, 11:24 PM
Welcome back CD !!!! Nice to see you back even though I'm a federesian and I don't agree with your views 95 % of the time. :)

Clay Death
07-21-2008, 11:39 PM
ClayDeath, welcome back, mate. So good to read your posts again.
And remember, facing Nadal everyone should Pray for Death! :devil:


affirmative. especially on clay and grass. he has finally conquered England. He has owned France for centuries.

Clay Death
07-21-2008, 11:40 PM
Welcome back CD !!!! Nice to see you back even though I'm a federesian and I don't agree with your views 95 % of the time. :)


thanks friend.

Clay Death
07-21-2008, 11:42 PM
CD - a warm welcome back. It has not been the same here without you.


much obliged for the kind remarks Herdwick.

BIGMARAT
07-22-2008, 12:17 AM
Duh!! Its obvious, Nadal just won two consecutive slams!

But hardcourt season is coming in which year in and year out eversince- he always perform at a par level. Nole won AO and if He win US Open- I think Nole has a say for that 2008 number one ranking crown. But until Nole wins it, its Rafa's year so far.

groundstroke
07-22-2008, 12:18 AM
Didn't read, Tim Henman's opinion can't be taken seriously. We're talking about a guy who had a 6-0 record against Federer and the record ended up being 7-6.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 12:37 AM
Didn't read, Tim Henman's opinion can't be taken seriously. We're talking about a guy who had a 6-0 record against Federer and the record ended up being 7-6.


in looking at your sig, you cant be taken seriously.

fast_clay
07-22-2008, 01:00 AM
is Tim Henman the new Bud Collins...?

wilmar
07-22-2008, 01:03 AM
welcome back CD!!!
I really hope Rafa will have a sizzling hardcourt season!

Merton
07-22-2008, 01:05 AM
In other controversial news, Athens is sunny in July.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 01:08 AM
welcome back CD!!!
I really hope Rafa will have a sizzling hardcourt season!


thanks wilmar. we dont know for sure how it will all play out. all i am concerned about is his health. if he can just defend his points and escape with no injury or further damage to those knees, i am happy.

there will be time enough to snag the #1 ranking. he really cant be expected to be a terror on hard courts.

5 slams by barely 22 has to be impressive.

wilmar
07-22-2008, 01:09 AM
i think with his current level of confidence and more agressive playing style, it is surely gonna help in his quest, as long as (you're right) his health holds out.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 01:16 AM
i think with his current level of confidence and more agressive playing style, it is surely gonna help in his quest, as long as (you're right) his health holds out.

affirmative. he might just peak at just right the time for the U.S. Open and make a little run.

the key for him on these miserable hard courts is efficiency. he cant afford to log in long hours on the court.

he was efficient this time around at Roland Garros and had plenty gas left in the tank to go and snag the Queens title a few days later.

Mimi
07-22-2008, 01:25 AM
hi welcome back, Claydeath :hug::hug:

affirmative. he might just peak at just right the time for the U.S. Open and make a little run.

the key for him on these miserable hard courts is efficiency. he cant afford to log in long hours on the court.

he was efficient this time around at Roland Garros and had plenty gas left in the tank to go and snag the Queens title a few days later.

luie
07-22-2008, 01:31 AM
Nadal should play on HARD courts as much as humanly possible & then more.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 01:36 AM
hi welcome back, Claydeath :hug::hug:


thanks mimi.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 01:37 AM
Nadal should play on HARD courts as much as humanly possible & then more.


so he can be crippled and not be able to walk, much less play tennis. great advice.

Ackms421
07-22-2008, 01:40 AM
Nadal will win one of the hard court masters and he will at the very least threaten at the USO. He may win it, but he is definitely a threat.

Mimi
07-22-2008, 01:45 AM
are you happy that our clay monster won both the FO and wimby? :p
thanks mimi.

luie
07-22-2008, 01:45 AM
so he can be crippled and not be able to walk, much less play tennis. great advice.
He cannot run away from hards,, look what happen in rome.He was unstoppable in RG but he was a bit vunerable during the clay season. He cannot depend on clay for everything,grass is short season.In the future he needs HARD courts b/c if his ranking falls he will have tougher opponents earlier on & it could go either way or atleast drain him.
BOTTOM LINE a player with his style needs to keep his ranking high or it could get REAL TOUGH,REAL SOON.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 02:23 AM
are you happy that our clay monster won both the FO and wimby? :p


affirmative. it was only a matter of time. after his performance at Queens, i was relatively convinced that he was going to go after the Wimby title this year.

the tricky part is the first 3-4 matches there for him. if he could get to the quarters, i knew he was going to town.

Mimi
07-22-2008, 02:26 AM
:yippee::yippee:affirmative. it was only a matter of time. after his performance at Queens, i was relatively convinced that he was going to go after the Wimby title this year.

the tricky part is the first 3-4 matches there for him. if he could get to the quarters, i knew he was going to town.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 02:41 AM
:yippee::yippee:


now if the Serbian Slayer can keep his magic going on the hard courts, i will be a happy man.

he stumbled badly at Wimbledon. dont know why he came out so flat that day. might have been up with Sharapova all night. i hear she can do all sorts of tricks.

Svetlana.
07-22-2008, 02:45 AM
Even if Rafa would loose all the remaining matches on hard court, he still would the best player of the year.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 03:18 AM
Even if Rafa would loose all the remaining matches on hard court, he still would the best player of the year.


affirmative. he could just fish the rest of the year and hang out on the beach.

Mimi
07-22-2008, 03:38 AM
Djokovic has a girl friend, not Maria :wavey:
now if the Serbian Slayer can keep his magic going on the hard courts, i will be a happy man.

he stumbled badly at Wimbledon. dont know why he came out so flat that day. might have been up with Sharapova all night. i hear she can do all sorts of tricks.

MarcelJordan
07-22-2008, 05:46 AM
affirmative. he could just fish the rest of the year and hang out on the beach.

Then he'll find himself ranked No. 3 at end of year. No? :devil:

jcempire
07-22-2008, 07:17 AM
He's been play so well this year. People expect him to be No 1 by end of this year, but he still has something to do before it

bad gambler
07-22-2008, 07:54 AM
now if the Serbian Slayer can keep his magic going on the hard courts, i will be a happy man.

he stumbled badly at Wimbledon. dont know why he came out so flat that day. might have been up with Sharapova all night. i hear she can do all sorts of tricks.

How would you feel if Federer swept the Nth American HC swing?

freeandlonely
07-22-2008, 08:11 AM
What if Djokovic wins USO?

Vida
07-22-2008, 09:42 AM
We will see what will happen, of course, but I wouldn't be hugely surprised if Nadal has something extra in his bag for us this year - uso.

Taking Wimby in such a fashion vs such an opponent is a huge boost. No more crying under the shower in the locker room ... Its the feeling of serenity and satisfaction that drives us all, what do you think it will to to such a monster that is Rafa?

If Fed doesn't take those Masters convincingly, and Nole messes up as well and gets tangled-up in who knows what this time (trash talk, another impersionations, or even this ATP council .... or Sharapova lol) than Nadal will gladly fill the gap.

jcempire
07-22-2008, 10:21 AM
What if Djokovic wins USO?

If Nadal gets to Final and Even Djok wins USO, Nadal still wins the No 1 spot

MurrayFan1
07-22-2008, 12:22 PM
Well he is obviously the best player in 2008 if he has won 2 GS's and is number 1 in the race.

Well done Henman!

groundstroke
07-22-2008, 12:55 PM
Do not expect much from Henman. :)

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 01:36 PM
How would you feel if Federer swept the Nth American HC swing?

a sweeping conjecture considering all he has to his name are 2 rinky dink, mickey mouse events so far this year--estoril and halle where he never had to play a single top 10 player.

i will believe it when i see it old sport. that said, he has a very easy draw and should skate freely straight into the finals in Toronto.

i am not sure if he wins it but with the draw he has, he should easily make the most of it. all the tough players are on the other side.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 01:38 PM
Well he is obviously the best player in 2008 if he has won 2 GS's and is number 1 in the race.

Well done Henman!

i dont even care about the points at this point. he has 6 big titles (tour leading) and 2 of them are monster slams.

he leads the tour in match wins as well. he leads the atp race and he leads in the prize money.

endorsement income is through the roof now and as more and more corporate sponsors are lining up from here to china.

bokehlicious
07-22-2008, 01:42 PM
CD and his endless GM trolling... :yawn: :zzz: can't wait for the permanent ban...

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 01:44 PM
CD and his endless GM trolling... :yawn: :zzz: can't wait for the permanent ban...


why are you still here? you have no purpose or function at all. even less use than cockroaches as far i can see.

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 01:48 PM
even Boris Becker feels that the Clay Monster is already the best in the world:Nadal moving closer to No. 1, Becker feels he's already there

TORONTO (AP) -- Rafael Nadal is OK with being ranked No. 2 in the world -- for now.

With Nadal beating Roger Federer in the French Open and Wimbledon finals, the Swiss star's grip on the top ranking is at its most vulnerable point since he became No. 1 more than four years ago.

If they continue to perform as well as the other in the Masters events this week in Toronto and next week in Cincinnati, then the ATP says Nadal could usurp Federer as No. 1 by mid-August, if not at the U.S. Open, where Federer is the four-time defending champion.

"I don't think nobody doesn't want to be No. 1," Nadal said on Monday at the Rogers Cup. "I want to be No. 1 for sure but right now I don't want to be No. 1.

"Right now, I want to play a very good tournament here in Toronto."

But even if the rankings don't say so many already believe Nadal is the world's best player, including Boris Becker, the 1986 Rogers Cup champion who was included in the tournament's Hall of Fame on Monday.
"Obviously in the world rankings there is still a No. 1 called Federer," Becker said. "But I think if you talk to anybody in the world of tennis who is considered for now the No. 1 player in the world, it's the winner of the French Open and Wimbledon."I think there's a change in the position at the moment.

"I think it's a case where Nadal has just improved to a level that nobody expected. Federer is playing as good as always.

"But you can only give credit to Nadal for really raising his game to another level and winning."

Becker believed tennis benefited from the rivalry like that of Federer and Nadal.

"Tennis needs players that bring out the best in each other," he said. "Tennis is in a good place right now having Federer and Nadal really at the very top of their careers.

"Whoever saw the Wimbledon final, I was just amazed at the quality of play from both players."

Nadal said he hasn't watched a repeat on television of the Wimbledon final, one of the greatest matches in tennis history.

"I only watch some points," he said. "But I don't watch the final."

And despite his success this season, Nadal doesn't believe he should be considered the man to beat in tennis.

"I don't think so," he said. "I am playing a good season but if I lost the final at Wimbledon, the season doesn't change too much.

"So I'm happy with how I'm playing. .. but I'm still with the same motivation for continuing to improve my tennis."

As usual, Nadal and Federer can meet this week only on Sunday.

"I would love to play against him," Nadal said. "If I do, I am going to play in the final.

"It would be a very good result for me to play in the final here, no?"

Both have an opening-round bye. Federer will face American Donald Young in his second-round match while Nadal will take on the winner of the match between American Jesse Levine and Canadien Peter Polansky.

JolánGagó
07-22-2008, 01:48 PM
can't wait for the permanent ban...

why don't you permanently ban yourself instead? ;)

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 01:52 PM
why don't you permanently ban yourself instead? ;)

exactly. check out this last post where even Becker says that Nadal is the best.

i dont call that trolling. i call that providing sufficient evidence as to what the true tennis insiders and greats are saying.
this way nobody has to take my word for it.

bokehlicious
07-22-2008, 01:57 PM
CD, most trolls on here are at least a tiny bit funny... You're just plain boring and never makes sense... :shrug:

That said, hating on Fed is a nice cure if it makes you feel better, I'm sure that way you feel like you have an actual life :hug: :hug:

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 02:02 PM
CD, most trolls on here are at least a tiny bit funny... You're just plain boring and never makes sense... :shrug:

That said, hating on Fed is a nice cure if it makes you feel better, I'm sure that way you feel like you have an actual life :hug: :hug:


where in this thread or any other post in this thread have i specifically stated that i am "hating on Fed"?

talk about a real bore, you are boring us all to death with your defensiveness about your god.

does it ever end?

you might as well call up Henman and Becker and ask them why they are "hating on Fed". news is news and facts are facts. deal with it.

bokehlicious
07-22-2008, 02:07 PM
you might as well call up Henman and Becker and ask them why they are "hating on Fed". news is news and facts are facts. deal with it.

Of course it takes rocket science to figure out that #1 at the race and holder of 2 out of 3 slams is the best so far this year :rolleyes:

Us Federer fans don't start new threads in GM anytime someone kisses Roger's arse (there would be dozens of them every day :kiss: :)).

Rafa is the best this year so far, big deal, that is definitely worth the headlines... :rolleyes:

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 02:17 PM
Of course it takes rocket science to figure out that #1 at the race and holder of 2 out of 3 slams is the best so far this year :rolleyes:

Us Federer fans don't start new threads in GM anytime someone kisses Roger's arse (there would be dozens of them every day :kiss: :)).

Rafa is the best this year so far, big deal, that is definitely worth the headlines... :rolleyes:


i have no patience for bitterness and all this boring defensiveness. cry at your own time Federereeeeeesian.

i am finished with you. you are a bore and a troll.

bokehlicious
07-22-2008, 02:21 PM
i have no patience for bitterness and all this boring defensiveness. cry at your own time Federereeeeeesian.

i am finished with you. you are a bore and a troll.

It's kind of funny to see you get humid when someone praises either Nadal or Djokovic :hug: :hug:

:secret: I still hope you get a perm ban, though ;)

Clay Death
07-22-2008, 03:06 PM
It's kind of funny to see you get humid when someone praises either Nadal or Djokovic :hug: :hug:

:secret: I still hope you get a perm ban, though ;)

i am a man of clay and i have always favored the clay monsters like Vilas, Muster, and Nadal.

here at mtf, i have found myself talking more about Djokovic. i am often attacked by Nadal fans for being too critical of him. my style is different. i dont believe in blind worship. if they are stinking up the courts, i will say they stink and that they need work.

i am not too happy about Nadal`s performance at Wimby. glad he finally conquered England and grass but he should have won it in straight sets. he also had his chances to seal the deal in the 4th set as you know. 5 hours matches just dont work well for him as they just expose him to injury given his demanding style of play. he choked repeatedly and took a 2 hour match and turned it into a near 5 hour marathon. it also increased Fed`d belief in the process.

also how could he have allowed Fed to hit 89 winners on him? i think the game plan became suspect once he won the first 2 sets. he got a little too passive and defensive. his new assault-minded mindset/approach was no where to be found after the first 2 sets.

thank goodness he had enough left to seal the deal in the 5th.