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Marek.
07-07-2008, 12:10 AM
It's been a while since I started a tournament thread so maybe this will turn his luck around. ;)

I just realized that this tournament is only 2 weeks from tomorrow. Hopefully Fed is prepared.

EternalxJourney
07-07-2008, 12:30 AM
Best of luck!!

SUKTUEN
07-07-2008, 03:27 AM
Allez Roger!!

trickcy
07-07-2008, 06:09 AM
Because if the Olympics, the schedule is tightened and Roger will have to play in two weeks time. I wish he had some more time, but that's the way it is.. C'mon Roger..

FedFan_2007
07-07-2008, 06:14 AM
Oh god, I didn't realize that Roger has to play in 2.5 weeks again. That has to be difficult. His mind will not be in tennis yet. Fortunately the first round will be some clown to practice on.

marat_roger
07-07-2008, 06:54 AM
Good Luck Roger ! :)

trickcy
07-07-2008, 09:18 AM
A Swiss fan said that Roger will be playing doubles with Wawa here. Can anybody confirm if that's true?

Daniel
07-07-2008, 10:52 AM
Hard to look in a positive way right now as all of us are sad.

Anyway, Wishing Roger the best of luck here :clap2:

^Sue^
07-07-2008, 12:30 PM
Roger, just try to keep it up and right now....i will always support you with all FEDERER's fans out there! C'mon!

^Sue^
07-07-2008, 12:31 PM
A Swiss fan said that Roger will be playing doubles with Wawa here. Can anybody confirm if that's true?

yeah, u can check out www.rogerfederer.com

trickcy
07-07-2008, 12:37 PM
yeah, u can check out www.rogerfederer.com

Thank you :wavey:

wackykid
07-07-2008, 01:21 PM
while i hope to be optimistic... but i rather take a more pessimistic approach and not expect too much for the rest of the year... at least if federer falls... the upset won't be that great... and vice versa... if he did well... it's a great reason to smile....

anyway... still wishing roger GOOD LUCK!! ALLEZ!!!


regards,
wacky

Sunset of Age
07-07-2008, 02:09 PM
Oh god, I didn't realize that Roger has to play in 2.5 weeks again. That has to be difficult. His mind will not be in tennis yet. Fortunately the first round will be some clown to practice on.

I think it's rather a blessing in disguise. He'll have to force himself to get over his Wimbly loss quickly and not drown himself in disappointment - and I trust him to be able to do just THAT.

Hopp, Rogi! :D

avocadoe
07-07-2008, 03:41 PM
I think he'll be fine in Toronto and for the rest of the year. The oressure of all that was possible this year on top of his illness got to him a bit...but he was in fine fight form at Wimbledon after the first two sets were done with, and will remian at that level or better for the rest of the year, imho :)

Rommella
07-07-2008, 03:48 PM
I think he'll be fine in Toronto and for the rest of the year. The oressure of all that was possible this year on top of his illness got to him a bit...but he was in fine fight form at Wimbledon after the first two sets were done with, and will remian at that level or better for the rest of the year, imho :)

I hope you're right. Am still devastated but so must he be. But move on we all must. Here's wishing him all the best for the hardcourt season.

SUKTUEN
07-07-2008, 04:37 PM
I miss Roger so much~~~

robinhood
07-08-2008, 04:52 PM
COME ON!!!
:banana:

SUKTUEN
07-08-2008, 05:02 PM
Hope Roger take a good rest and Come Back in HARD FAST COURT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allezzzzzzzzzzzzzz my KING!!!!

MrChopin
07-09-2008, 01:40 AM
Fed can still win titles. He looked closer to beating Clay Monster at MC and Hamburg than ever, and for stretches of this Wimbledon, more in control than last year. That's the most bewildering and ultimately crushing aspect of these losses. Fucking Wimbledon still sticks in my throat. Damn it Roger, win this title and start getting back that confidence to hit out! Do 8000 stairs. Stop rolling those cc shots. Hit dtl. Clean up those volleys. C'mon!

Sunset of Age
07-09-2008, 01:51 AM
^^ Your Sisyphus siggie isn't exactly giving me comfort, to say the least... :scared:

cath777
07-09-2008, 02:49 AM
A Swiss fan said that Roger will be playing doubles with Wawa here.

Probably to get practice for the Olympic doubles.

Well, last two years the men have played in Toronto, I've been there and Roger has won. Here's hoping for 3rd time lucky :angel:

clever1980
07-09-2008, 02:53 AM
Roger, please come back swinging..

lunahielo
07-09-2008, 03:05 AM
Allez!!

lunahielo
07-09-2008, 03:08 AM
^^ Your Sisyphus siggie isn't exactly giving me comfort, to say the least... :scared:

Oh, Karen~~I so agree. :eek:
MrChopin~~you are scaring me...but I am sure you don't mean to.

Pax,
Luna

Marek.
07-09-2008, 04:35 AM
So is the Olympics two weeks from the start of Toronto? If so, I don't see him putting much of an effort at Cincy, if he even goes.

rofe
07-09-2008, 04:56 AM
So is the Olympics two weeks from the start of Toronto? If so, I don't see him putting much of an effort at Cincy, if he even goes.

Yeah but he not only has to play Cincy but win it to keep his #1 ranking. I guess he already realizes that but can't do much about it if he wants a decent shot at winning the gold medal.

BlueSwan
07-09-2008, 12:36 PM
Fed can still win titles. He looked closer to beating Clay Monster at MC and Hamburg than ever, and for stretches of this Wimbledon, more in control than last year. That's the most bewildering and ultimately crushing aspect of these losses. Fucking Wimbledon still sticks in my throat. Damn it Roger, win this title and start getting back that confidence to hit out! Do 8000 stairs. Stop rolling those cc shots. Hit dtl. Clean up those volleys. C'mon!

Yeah, that's what Roger needs to do. Start playing truly aggressive tennis again. He might as well face the fact that the #1 ranking is gone, and rediscover his magical attacking tennis. I'm sure he'll have more fun playing that way as well. He might lose more matches that way, but he'll probably improve his chances of winning slams - aggressive tennis is needed to beat Nadal and Djokovic.

Daniel
07-09-2008, 01:23 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=97829&d=1156372142

2006 Toronto Champion. Federer bt Gasquet.

:worship::worship::worship:

*Elsie*
07-09-2008, 02:04 PM
I am not trying to be optimistic, I am optimistic ;)

Allez Roger!

http://yelims2.free.fr/Fete/Danseuse03.gif

rofe
07-09-2008, 02:12 PM
Yeah, that's what Roger needs to do. Start playing truly aggressive tennis again. He might as well face the fact that the #1 ranking is gone, and rediscover his magical attacking tennis. I'm sure he'll have more fun playing that way as well. He might lose more matches that way, but he'll probably improve his chances of winning slams - aggressive tennis is needed to beat Nadal and Djokovic.

All out aggressive tennis is a disaster waiting to happen. I hope Roger never plays like Blake. IMO, he needs to work on the following:

1) Create some routine before serving to maintain focus during serving.
2) Work on a good body serve
3) Work on volleys (seems like he has slacked off on this)
4) Be aggressive when he has break points on an opponent's serve
5) Get the ball in play on an opponent's serve even if he has to stand back a little more while receiving
6) Be aggressive on 2nd serve returns as long as #5 is satisfied (hard I know)

SUKTUEN
07-09-2008, 04:56 PM
Roger is so cute in the pic~~

juninhOH
07-09-2008, 06:35 PM
after I discovered Roger plays in 2 weeks again I decided to ocme back. Don't want to read articles tho hehe. I think it is really important that Roger wins Toronto/Montreal this year. It will be his first big title and he NEEDS it (not to talk about the points)

Pedigree
07-09-2008, 07:03 PM
So is the Olympics two weeks from the start of Toronto? If so, I don't see him putting much of an effort at Cincy, if he even goes.

I really wish he skipped the stupid olympics.

tmsh
07-09-2008, 08:06 PM
All I hope is for Roger to take some good time off these next few days/weeks, recover physically (and most importantly, mentally!) - then I'm sure he'll be back on his feet for the rest of the season. The wins will come.

Staying optimistic here, folks. :)

jtipson
07-09-2008, 09:00 PM
Yeah but he not only has to play Cincy but win it to keep his #1 ranking. I guess he already realizes that but can't do much about it if he wants a decent shot at winning the gold medal.

2007 Cincy points don't come off until the Olympics, so he could probably get away with skipping it as long as he does well in China.

jtipson
07-09-2008, 09:01 PM
So is the Olympics two weeks from the start of Toronto? If so, I don't see him putting much of an effort at Cincy, if he even goes.

There is a week between Cincy and the Olympics, so at least there will be some time for the transition.

SUKTUEN
07-10-2008, 05:28 AM
where do Roger go in his holidays?

Hope he have a relax holiday~~~~;)

anon57
07-10-2008, 03:02 PM
I really wish he skipped the stupid olympics.
I know the Olympics mean a big deal to Roger but I think the same sometimes, going deep in the Olympic tournament could really hurt Roger's chances at the USO which starts about a week later. And sometimes I do think USO win>Olympic Gold even if you only get a chance to compete at the Olympics once every four years.

rofe
07-10-2008, 03:41 PM
I know the Olympics mean a big deal to Roger but I think the same sometimes, going deep in the Olympic tournament could really hurt Roger's chances at the USO which starts about a week later. And sometimes I do think USO win>Olympic Gold even if you only get a chance to compete at the Olympics once every four years.

Plus he will finish Cincy, go to Beijing, recover from jet lag, play in Beijing, come back to the USO, recover from jet lag before playing. Not worth it at all.

Olympics is overrated in my opinion but I guess Fed attaches a lot of importance to it. I just hope the trip to Beijing doesn't come back to haunt him at the USO.

trickcy
07-10-2008, 03:44 PM
Is there a week's gap between Toronto and Cincy or is it back to back like the previous years?

anon57
07-10-2008, 03:55 PM
Is there a week's gap between Toronto and Cincy or is it back to back like the previous years?
Toronto and Cincinnati are back to back again this year, So Roger's schedule will be Toronto/Cincy, then there's a week off, followed by the Olympic tournament, a week off again and the USO.

trickcy
07-10-2008, 03:59 PM
Ah. Very tight schedule I see. Thanks Kim :)

Sunset of Age
07-10-2008, 04:00 PM
Toronto and Cincinnati are back to back again this year, So Roger's schedule will be Toronto/Cincy, then there's a week off, followed by the Olympic tournament, a week off again and the USO.

:scared: :scared: :scared:
Sounds like a lot of jetlags he'll have to cope with. Fortunately, that goes for ALL the players playing the Olympics.

trickcy
07-10-2008, 04:02 PM
:scared: :scared: :scared:
Sounds like a lot of jetlags he'll have to cope with. Fortunately, that goes for ALL the players playing the Olympics.

Yes, :scared: Only thing is going to the USO from Beijing. I don't think all players will have the same time to cope with the jetlag. :scared:

Puschkin
07-10-2008, 04:03 PM
Olympics is overrated in my opinion but I guess Fed attaches a lot of importance to it. I just hope the trip to Beijing doesn't come back to haunt him at the USO.

My thoughts exactly.

SUKTUEN
07-10-2008, 04:11 PM
I really hope that Roger can win the Olympics in my country!!!!!

trickcy
07-10-2008, 07:16 PM
Thanks for making it a sticky , NYCTennisfan :wavey:

So, speaking about the tight schedule, and jetlags and stuff,is this the schedule for the rest of the year?

July 21 Toronto
July 28 Cincinnati
Aug 11 Olympics (8th, but tennis is from 11th, I think)
Aug 25 USO
Davis Cup (against Belgium :scratch:)
Oct 6 Stockholm
Oct 13 Madrid
Oct 20 Basel
Oct 27 Paris
Nov 9 TMC Shanghai

Federerhingis
07-10-2008, 09:47 PM
Plus he will finish Cincy, go to Beijing, recover from jet lag, play in Beijing, come back to the USO, recover from jet lag before playing. Not worth it at all.

Olympics is overrated in my opinion but I guess Fed attaches a lot of importance to it. I just hope the trip to Beijing doesn't come back to haunt him at the USO.


Besides I bet the surface is going to be a lot slower than the US OPEN. So not much of a good preparation for the US OPEN. I guess there is no good prep for the OPEN since canada and cinci are slower than at the Open. I guess cinci is the closest thing.

Blondie1985
07-11-2008, 12:04 AM
I really hope that Roger can win the Olympics in my country!!!!!

I really hope 2!!!


hey suktuen, will u go watch roger?

Marek.
07-11-2008, 12:52 AM
Besides I bet the surface is going to be a lot slower than the US OPEN. So not much of a good preparation for the US OPEN. I guess there is no good prep for the OPEN since canada and cinci are slower than at the Open. I guess cinci is the closest thing.

I think the type of balls are different also.

EternalxJourney
07-11-2008, 12:59 AM
I really hope that Roger can win the Olympics in my country!!!!!

Suk, are you going to Beijing to watch Roger play live?

rofe
07-11-2008, 01:30 AM
I think the type of balls are different also.

True, it is lighter than Wimbly I believe.

yanchr
07-11-2008, 02:49 AM
Plus he will finish Cincy, go to Beijing, recover from jet lag, play in Beijing, come back to the USO, recover from jet lag before playing. Not worth it at all.

Olympics is overrated in my opinion but I guess Fed attaches a lot of importance to it. I just hope the trip to Beijing doesn't come back to haunt him at the USO.
Totally agree. I wish he skips it. Not possible.

Like Sampras said, Olympics, either you attach great importance, or you don't give a shit. Obviously it's the former for Roger.

We can only hope it doesn't affect him in USO, which is the most important tournament for the rest of the year, by a mile.

wackykid
07-11-2008, 04:14 AM
Olympics is overrated in my opinion but I guess Fed attaches a lot of importance to it. I just hope the trip to Beijing doesn't come back to haunt him at the USO.

olympics is not overrated depending on your country of origin... sure in the US... every year the US gets 100+ gold medals... they can always do with 1 less in tennis... so it's no big deal...

i don't know about switzerland... but in my country... olympics is THE holy grail in the entire sporting universe... and there is a S$1mil reward to winning olympics individual gold medal... afterall... in the history of my country there had only been 1 medalist EVER... and it's *only* a silver... getting an olympics gold is even BIGGER than winning any of the grand slams...


regards,
wacky

rofe
07-11-2008, 04:56 AM
olympics is not overrated depending on your country of origin... sure in the US... every year the US gets 100+ gold medals... they can always do with 1 less in tennis... so it's no big deal...

i don't know about switzerland... but in my country... olympics is THE holy grail in the entire sporting universe... and there is a S$1mil reward to winning olympics individual gold medal... afterall... in the history of my country there had only been 1 medalist EVER... and it's *only* a silver... getting an olympics gold is even BIGGER than winning any of the grand slams...


regards,
wacky

In this era of globalization, I think the idea of Olympics is quaint and antiquated. I understand that for some athletes, doing well at the Olympics means a financial windfall but I would rather that governments sponsor good athletes in for profit sporting events like the ATP tour for tennis or for example the world events held for track and field.

In Roger's case, he is really close to making history by winning three more slams so he needs to arrange his schedule to peak at the slams. In my opinion, participating in the Olympics hampers that preparation. Unfortunately, he won't get too many chances to win slams from now on so he has to take any chance he can get to do well.

Lets say he does well at the Olympics - even gets gold but loses at the USO. Would you consider his year to be a success? I certainly would not. His career is at a critical juncture - he is going to lose his #1 ranking so a slam win would do wonders for his confidence. I doubt an Olympic gold will have the same effect on his confidence as a win at the USO.

FedFan_2007
07-11-2008, 07:22 AM
Thanks for making it a sticky , NYCTennisfan :wavey:

So, speaking about the tight schedule, and jetlags and stuff,is this the schedule for the rest of the year?

July 21 Toronto
July 28 Cincinnati
Aug 11 Olympics (8th, but tennis is from 11th, I think)
Aug 25 USO
Davis Cup (against Belgium :scratch:)
Oct 6 Stockholm
Oct 13 Madrid
Oct 20 Basel
Oct 27 Paris
Nov 9 TMC Shanghai

Here's hoping Rogi can win all of those! :D:D

trickcy
07-11-2008, 07:44 AM
Here's hoping Rogi can win all of those! :D:D

That's what I would have said in 2006 :D but now :tape:"here's hoping Rogi can win the USO + TMC/Olympics . (If both, great!)I'll settle for that. Anything else is also welcome!" :o

Marek.
07-11-2008, 08:11 AM
I'd be fine if all he wins is the USO, but I think he needs to win one of the next three to get something going heading into it.

glycina
07-11-2008, 10:10 AM
Roger says that he wanted to present the 2004 olympic medal to Mirla as the memory of their love lasting for four years. That's one of the reasons why he was so disappointed with the early loss. I do really hope that he can make his dream come true. :angel:

Suktuen, please go to support him. If I have the opportunity to go to Pekin, I would like to see you and talk together about Roger!:wavey:

wackykid
07-11-2008, 10:11 AM
In this era of globalization, I think the idea of Olympics is quaint and antiquated. I understand that for some athletes, doing well at the Olympics means a financial windfall but I would rather that governments sponsor good athletes in for profit sporting events like the ATP tour for tennis or for example the world events held for track and field.

In Roger's case, he is really close to making history by winning three more slams so he needs to arrange his schedule to peak at the slams. In my opinion, participating in the Olympics hampers that preparation. Unfortunately, he won't get too many chances to win slams from now on so he has to take any chance he can get to do well.

Lets say he does well at the Olympics - even gets gold but loses at the USO. Would you consider his year to be a success? I certainly would not. His career is at a critical juncture - he is going to lose his #1 ranking so a slam win would do wonders for his confidence. I doubt an Olympic gold will have the same effect on his confidence as a win at the USO.

yes... while i agree... if roger wins olympics and loses US open because of that... his year as an individual is definitely a failure -- compared to his previous years... but to his country... it may be of tremendous importance (it would be if it's is my country)... so as far as roger is concerned... it's a matter of whether which comes first -- his career or his country... and it's his choice...


regards,
wacky

Daniel
07-11-2008, 10:14 AM
Thanks for making it a sticky , NYCTennisfan :wavey:

So, speaking about the tight schedule, and jetlags and stuff,is this the schedule for the rest of the year?

July 21 Toronto
July 28 Cincinnati
Aug 11 Olympics (8th, but tennis is from 11th, I think)
Aug 25 USO
Davis Cup (against Belgium :scratch:)
Oct 6 Stockholm
Oct 13 Madrid
Oct 20 Basel
Oct 27 Paris
Nov 9 TMC Shanghai

I think the USO , TCM Shanghai and the Olympics are the most important tournaments he has to win this second half of the year.

glycina
07-11-2008, 11:47 AM
In 2006 Oct, I was thinking that Roger would come back to Tokyo.
But now...Will he play again in Japan? I do hope he will come back
before his retirement. Or maybe at Tokyo Olympics(Je me demande si
c'est possible)? He will be 34 years old then! Doubles?

SUKTUEN
07-11-2008, 05:47 PM
I really hope 2!!!


hey suktuen, will u go watch roger?


no , I have no tickets and my friend cannot go with me.:sad::sad:

yanchr
07-11-2008, 06:10 PM
I read that Roger is already in Dubai training with Paganini.

It's really the best thing I want to hear.

anon57
07-11-2008, 06:37 PM
I read that Roger is already in Dubai training with Paganini.

It's really the best thing I want to hear.

That's good news to hear he's gone back to work:yeah:

Noelman
07-11-2008, 06:38 PM
I read that Roger is already in Dubai training with Paganini.

It's really the best thing I want to hear.

Really?Good to hear that. Hope to see him soon. :D

Sunset of Age
07-11-2008, 06:57 PM
I read that Roger is already in Dubai training with Paganini.

It's really the best thing I want to hear.

Very good news indeed. :D

Or Levy
07-11-2008, 08:00 PM
Ohhh, in Dubai already?

Good. Hard practice, lying on the beach with Mirka, hopefully avoiding the press as much as possible.

I'm happy to hear that.

juninhOH
07-11-2008, 09:06 PM
I am not. I wish he could relax for 10 days and then come back swinging. I hope his body can take the rest of this season, it's much tougher than last years for example.

anon57
07-11-2008, 09:12 PM
I am not. I wish he could relax for 10 days and then come back swinging. I hope his body can take the rest of this season, it's much tougher than last years for example.
Toronto is in two weeks. Unfortunately with the tight schedule this year, Federer doesn't have 10 days to relax so it's a good thing he's gone back to training, hopefully it also means he's putting the final behind him.

Marek.
07-11-2008, 09:14 PM
He had enough rest last year anyway.

Sunset of Age
07-11-2008, 09:18 PM
He had enough rest last year anyway.

:mad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Marek.
07-11-2008, 11:34 PM
:mad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Well he did have like 3 different month long breaks last year. :p I think it would be best if he didn't have too much time off between Wimb and US HC anyway. He can wait till after the USO.

glycina
07-12-2008, 01:54 AM
He had enough rest last year anyway.

That does not mean that he has already begun to feel tired and to be eaten by mono? When he withdrew from Tokyo Open because of the extreme fatigue, I could'nt understand what happend to him, all the more for the reduction of the tournaments to be played in 2007.
And it is clear that he is not yet in form. He always looks a little bit tired and languid. But as he is the number one, he will never tell us the truth.

rofe
07-12-2008, 01:55 AM
I read that Roger is already in Dubai training with Paganini.

It's really the best thing I want to hear.

Good to know.

Knightmace
07-12-2008, 03:30 AM
Come on this is your season!

SUKTUEN
07-12-2008, 07:57 AM
Lion King Please ROARRRRRRRRRRR Again!!!!:devil:

prima donna
07-12-2008, 08:25 AM
:mad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
To hell with you...

Zolka
07-12-2008, 07:34 PM
Keep the faith guys, shiny days are not gone just yet... He'll bounce back, no doubt in my mind. Maybe he won't dominate like he did during those magical years, but that means the victory will be even sweeter for him, and for us. Go Roger! :)

NYCtennisfan
07-12-2008, 07:46 PM
Well he did have like 3 different month long breaks last year. :p I think it would be best if he didn't have too much time off between Wimb and US HC anyway. He can wait till after the USO.

Didn't affect him too much in 2004, 2005, 2006, or 2007. ;)

FedFan_2007
07-12-2008, 09:47 PM
2004-2007 RIP

From now on it's going to be "fighting hard, Roger Federer style".

Marek.
07-12-2008, 10:00 PM
Didn't affect him too much in 2004, 2005, 2006, or 2007. ;)

He hadn't lost epic Wimbledon finals in those years though. :p

Sunset of Age
07-13-2008, 01:17 AM
He hadn't lost epic Wimbledon finals in those years though. :p

And as much as he's lost the 2008 version, the total points difference was just a mere 5 points, in a 5-sets, two TB, 4 hour 48 minutes match. This fellow isn't DONE already, no?

Rogi, do your best in the upcoming HC season. I count on you to be able to do it! :worship:

SUKTUEN
07-13-2008, 03:25 PM
I miss Roger's game~~~~

Sunset of Age
07-14-2008, 05:26 PM
I just read that Marat Safin has been given his 976,912,123th wildcard to this tournament.

Hopefully he'll be able to do some Cleaning Up in his side of the draw and thus help Rogi for a bit. :devil:

RogiFan88
07-14-2008, 08:48 PM
five more days... ;)

Eden
07-14-2008, 10:07 PM
five more days... ;)

How long will you be at the tournament? Hope you'll have a great time :)

Please cheer loudly for Roger for us. I'm sure you will find the right words when you see him :)

FedFan_2007
07-14-2008, 11:00 PM
Karin,

How much of Fed's problems since March 2007 is traceable to deteriorated footwork? Particularly on the backhand, since the forehand looks pretty good right now. All the basic shots are predicated on being able to transfer weight properly into the shot and I have video clips from 2006-early 2007 where the topspin backhand was really working against everyone including Nadal.

Sunset of Age
07-15-2008, 12:53 PM
Karin,

How much of Fed's problems since March 2007 is traceable to deteriorated footwork? Particularly on the backhand, since the forehand looks pretty good right now. All the basic shots are predicated on being able to transfer weight properly into the shot and I have video clips from 2006-early 2007 where the topspin backhand was really working against everyone including Nadal.

Honestly, I have *no idea* what has been causing his problems, and I'm sure that if he and all of his team don't know either, there's no reason to speculate on it... I'm sure that whatever it is/was, they'll figure it out. IMHO, his problems in the beginning of this year should be at least partly ascribed to his (recovering from) mono, as it isn't too far fetched to believe that such an illness affects one's speed first and foremost.

Or rather: they have figured it out already, as what I saw from Fed during Wimbly looked pretty well near to his best level of playing. He has NEVER been perfect, don't forget that - people tend to forget that also in his 2006 - 2007 he's had quite a few near-losses where eventually the coin flipped in his direction - remember Tokyo for instance, where he nearly lost to a player ranked somewhere in the #1000 region? Wasn't the Wimbly final last year also a very, very close business, where he eventually escaped like a camel through the needle's eye? ;)

At this year's Wimbly, the same thing could have happened, but it didn't. A 5 sets, 4 hour 48 minutes match ending up with a total points difference of FIVE between the two players? Pretty close if you ask me...

So, I trust him to be right back on track, physically at least. We have yet to find out to which extent this loss has affected him mentally, though.

Or Levy
07-15-2008, 01:50 PM
I gotta say, I'm sort of worried he hasn't resurfaced yet, by either a photo, a small interview, a message on RF.com. Nothing.

The press will be ALL over him in Toronto.

Sunset of Age
07-15-2008, 01:54 PM
I gotta say, I'm sort of worried he hasn't resurfaced yet, by either a photo, a small interview, a message on RF.com. Nothing.

The press will be ALL over him in Toronto.

Yeah, me too... It might just be his way to deal with the Wimbly loss... no press bothering him. This is a rather 'new' situation for him, he might just have to recuperate and find out how to deal with things when the Times Are Bad.

Would very much like to see a token of life from him...

Or Levy
07-15-2008, 02:31 PM
Yes, I'm sure this is his way of coping. He was fed up with the press before he lost in Wimby.

And now he can't even say 'why do they want to shoot me so soon'.

Sigh.

Sunset of Age
07-15-2008, 02:34 PM
And now he can't even say 'why do they want to shoot me so soon'.

Sigh.

Perhaps it's just better this way. It would take less than a millisec for the haters to come in and accuse him of whining... :(

Not that I should care about that, of course. :angel:

RogiFan88
07-15-2008, 02:51 PM
why are people still talking about Wimby in the TMS Toronto/summer hc leadup to USO thread???

Rogi will soon be in TO... in a couple of days...

rofe
07-15-2008, 03:07 PM
why are people still talking about Wimby in the TMS Toronto/summer hc leadup to USO thread???

Rogi will soon be in TO... in a couple of days...

:yeah:

Sunset of Age
07-15-2008, 03:21 PM
why are people still talking about Wimby in the TMS Toronto/summer hc leadup to USO thread???

Rogi will soon be in TO... in a couple of days...

:yeah:

What's wrong with it? Is it suddenly forbidden to discuss whether he will be able to recover from his loss? :shrug:

RogiFan88
07-15-2008, 03:23 PM
What's wrong with it? Is it suddenly forbidden to discuss whether he will be able to recover from his loss? :shrug:

no, just not in this thread... keep it in the Wimby thread as we'd like to move on. thank you! :angel:

SUKTUEN
07-15-2008, 05:19 PM
21 July~~~~~ long time to wait~~

Daniel
07-15-2008, 07:08 PM
no, just not in this thread... keep it in the Wimby thread as we'd like to move on. thank you! :angel:

:kiss:

Looking forward to see Roger winning the title here

:bounce:

SUKTUEN
07-16-2008, 06:17 AM
:kiss:

Looking forward to see Roger winning the title here

:bounce:

:bounce::bounce:

Marek.
07-16-2008, 06:44 AM
So how long did he go to Dubai for? Like a week? Because I would think he would arrive in Toronto by Thursday or Friday.

SUKTUEN
07-16-2008, 04:21 PM
:bigcry:

I miss Roger~

Xristos
07-16-2008, 04:52 PM
Rog is in Toronto as we speak.

prima donna
07-16-2008, 05:52 PM
Come on, Roger. We're getting restless.

Let's take Toronto.

fedsfan1
07-17-2008, 07:17 PM
Rog is in Toronto as we speak.

You sure get lots of insider info. whats your source??? ;)

I am just so happy that Roger is in my time zone!!!
& that I will be seeing him soon at the USO!!

I think he needed time away from everything & all the press...they are beasts. He will surface soon. He can't keep us waiting that long.

GO ROGER

Puschkin
07-18-2008, 01:23 PM
There is absolutely no build-up for this tourney. The website is horribly outdated :o, while I am sure that many players are alreday there.

SUKTUEN
07-19-2008, 03:51 AM
Roger is busy for to move house in Switzerland~~~~he move to a more big house.

glycina
07-19-2008, 01:46 PM
Roger is busy for to move house in Switzerland~~~~he move to a more big house.

He moved to a new house in the middle of the season, just before
the big tournament?

By the way, I saw yesterday a special TV program which deals with Kei Nishikori. I was surprised of the number of the staff of his team and the method of the practice. The detailed analysis of the hittinng form or the tactics by using video, the game against two players, par exemple.
I wonder if this is not so surprising. I really don't know how the
players practice. But Roger too has ever tried a game against two (
or even three?) players within the framework of practice? I want to know how Roger practice with his team.

anon57
07-19-2008, 04:46 PM
So has Roger surfaced yet, has he been seen in Toronto. It seems he's very good at staying away from the media when he feels likeit:lol:

prima donna
07-19-2008, 04:49 PM
But Roger too has ever tried a game against two (
or even three?) players within the framework of practice? I want to know how Roger practice with his team.
Yes, in fact I vividly recall having read a story regarding two players against which Roger had practiced who had made a bet amongst themselves that one couldn't successfully lob Roger; which he did end up doing and thus the other practice partner was forced to pay up.

This is as much as I can provide you in terms of details, as I'm not one to pay close attention to such rituals, however you can find video footage of Roger practicing at numerous venues on YouTube.com by simply using the string "Roger practice" or something along those lines.

Good luck.

SUKTUEN
07-19-2008, 05:27 PM
So has Roger surfaced yet, has he been seen in Toronto. It seems he's very good at staying away from the media when he feels likeit:lol:

yes, Roger is very smart to hide away from camera ~:devil:

anon57
07-19-2008, 08:02 PM
Well Roger may still be in hiding but the draw is out, http://www.rogerscupmen.com/2/en/draws/SinglesMainDraw.pdf

Exclusive
07-19-2008, 08:55 PM
The draw can't be better. Must be no serious problems until the final. But we will see. If the most efforts are going to be leaved to the Olympic-USO double, than surprises may happen.

rofe
07-19-2008, 09:07 PM
So has Roger surfaced yet, has he been seen in Toronto. It seems he's very good at staying away from the media when he feels likeit:lol:

He could very well be old news. Journos usually move on to the next big thing and right now that big thing is Nadal. Roger could actually benefit from the lack of attention.

anon57
07-19-2008, 09:16 PM
The draw can't be better. Must be no serious problems until the final. But we will see. If the most efforts are going to be leaved to the Olympic-USO double, than surprises may happen.
No complaints about the draw here, if he's playing well he has a great opportunity to reach the final but then again I wasn't expecting him to lose to Mardy Fish at IW either:o.
He could very well be old news. Journos usually move on to the next big thing and right now that big thing is Nadal. Roger could actually benefit from the lack of attention.
:shrug:I don't know whether it's Roger staying away from the media or the media ignoring Roger because they've moved on to Nadal, I just noticed how little Roger news/pictures there was from Toronto. Hopefully some time to away from the spotlights has done him some good and he'll be ready for the HC season.

cath777
07-19-2008, 10:13 PM
No sign of Roger today at all. He wasn't even listed for the practice courts :scratch:

Fed Express
07-19-2008, 10:19 PM
No sign of Roger today at all. He wasn't even listed for the practice courts :scratch:

According to someone at rf.com he has practiced with Peter Polanski.

So he is there and practicing :)

scoobs
07-19-2008, 10:28 PM
Please do well here Roger....

Nando_L
07-19-2008, 10:29 PM
Go Roger! :)

Sunset of Age
07-19-2008, 10:31 PM
Good draw, indeed. :yeah:

No complaints about the draw here, if he's playing well he has a great opportunity to reach the final but then again I wasn't expecting him to lose to Mardy Fish at IW either:o.

I've just had a little check in the Zoo, and was actually very surprised about so many people thinking the Fed of the first three months to be the same as the one that is going to show up here. Has really everybody forgotten about his mono? :confused:
Fed is not going to lose again this year to the likes of Fish/Roddick/Murray. No way, not here. (Yes, I am confident. ;))

:shrug:I don't know whether it's Roger staying away from the media or the media ignoring Roger because they've moved on to Nadal, I just noticed how little Roger news/pictures there was from Toronto. Hopefully some time to away from the spotlights has done him some good and he'll be ready for the HC season.

I don't believe it at all that the press would just have 'given up' on Roger. In the contrary, I'd expect some 100,000 of them would actually love to 'roast' Roger with questions about the Wimbly loss... as that is what they are: vultures and bandwagonners.

According to someone at rf.com he has practiced with Peter Polanski.

So he is there and practicing :)

That's great news! :bounce:

NYCtennisfan
07-19-2008, 10:40 PM
He could very well be old news. Journos usually move on to the next big thing and right now that big thing is Nadal. Roger could actually benefit from the lack of attention.

He wouldn't become old news after one tournament. If anything, they want to get at him to ask him about the end of his Wimby run, his dominace, possible loss of #1, etc. etc.

Sunset of Age
07-19-2008, 10:45 PM
He wouldn't become old news after one tournament. If anything, they want to get at him to ask him about the end of his Wimby run, his dominace, possible loss of #1, etc. etc.

Exactly. I'm sure the vultures journo's are out to 'roast' him with these questions as soon as he appears, and I can well understand his choice to stay out of sight for a while.

Rogieva
07-19-2008, 10:50 PM
Not a bad draw, a few floaters like Gulbis around and the route to the final is tougher with Gonzo and Roddick. Should be a interesting tournament!

Sunset of Age
07-19-2008, 11:38 PM
He is there... and he's training... and he's in a good mood! :D

rofe
07-20-2008, 04:21 AM
He is there... and he's training... and he's in a good mood! :D

Meh. I want grumpy Fed during practice session back. He does better in tournaments if he is annoyed during practice. :p

rofe
07-20-2008, 04:24 AM
He is there... and he's training... and he's in a good mood! :D

The stance in photos 2 and 3 is interesting. I guess he is working on something with Higgy but I can't figure out what that is. It looks like a forehand volley stance except that in photo 2 he is doing it close to the baseline. :scratch:

Sunset of Age
07-20-2008, 04:29 AM
Meh. I want grumpy Fed during practice session back. He does better in tournaments if he is annoyed during practice. :p

:lol: - as for me, I can only be happy to see HIM happy again. For whatever reason.

The stance in photos 2 and 3 is interesting. I guess he is working on something with Higgy but I can't figure out what that is. It looks like a forehand volley stance except that in photo 2 he is doing it close to the baseline. :scratch:

I have no idea either, and I hope some people more knowledgeable about this sort of things can help us out.

nobama
07-20-2008, 05:34 AM
Meh. I want grumpy Fed during practice session back. He does better in tournaments if he is annoyed during practice. :p:lol: What's your proof of this?

nobama
07-20-2008, 05:47 AM
Just saw the draw discussion thread in GM. I see the whiners out there complaining about Djerk being in Nadal's half. Just because there's a 50/50 chance of Djerk landing in either half doesn't mean he won't land in one half more than the other. :rolleyes:

juninhOH
07-20-2008, 06:42 AM
Fed got djokovic in 2 slams already. US Open Djokovic should be on Rafa's half rofl =]

Marek.
07-20-2008, 09:18 AM
I haven't really cared much about Masters Series events over the past two years, but I really hope he wins this one. It would give him a lot momentum going into the Olympics and USO, and shut a lot of idiots up.

sweetymessi
07-20-2008, 09:58 AM
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll225/sweetymessi/2249894710034423979MgMlNH_fs.jpg

sweetymessi
07-20-2008, 10:01 AM
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll225/sweetymessi/2335998830034423979LzkVDw_fs.jpg

refero*fervens
07-20-2008, 10:40 AM
Nice to see him surface now, thanks for the news and pics guys :cool:

cath777
07-20-2008, 01:13 PM
Forecast calls for rain today in Toronto :(

Sunset of Age
07-20-2008, 02:03 PM
Just saw the draw discussion thread in GM. I see the whiners out there complaining about Djerk being in Nadal's half. Just because there's a 50/50 chance of Djerk landing in either half doesn't mean he won't land in one half more than the other. :rolleyes:

Yeah, it's annoying, isn't it?
I can only conclude that these whiners are either 1) twelve-year old fanboys/girls, 2) people with NO CLUE whatsoever about maths and statistics (believe me, the world is full of them...), or 3) trolls.

Option 3) seems the most likely to me. At least I hope so.... :rolleyes:

scoobs
07-20-2008, 02:06 PM
The fact is, since this situation has arisen, Djokovic has tended to land in Nadal's half more than he has in Federer's.

But so what - it's the luck of the draw.

Besides which, if draws were done the old way, Federer would ALWAYS draw the #4 seed and Nadal and Djokovic would ALWAYS play each other in the semis at every event like this.

Sunset of Age
07-20-2008, 02:12 PM
The fact is, since this situation has arisen, Djokovic has tended to land in Nadal's half more than he has in Federer's.

But so what - it's the luck of the draw.

Exactly. The same can be said about Roddick, who 'always' seems to end up in Fed's half. Bad luck, buddy.

Besides which, if draws were done the old way, Federer would ALWAYS draw the #4 seed and Nadal and Djokovic would ALWAYS play each other in the semis at every event like this.

I wish more of the clueless fangirls/boys would realize this, but I guess their memory span doesn't go back that far. :lol:

glycina
07-20-2008, 02:25 PM
Yes, in fact I vividly recall having read a story regarding two players against which Roger had practiced who had made a bet amongst themselves that one couldn't successfully lob Roger; which he did end up doing and thus the other practice partner was forced to pay up.

This is as much as I can provide you in terms of details, as I'm not one to pay close attention to such rituals, however you can find video footage of Roger practicing at numerous venues on YouTube.com by simply using the string "Roger practice" or something along those lines.

Good luck.

Thanks a lot for a reply.

According to the commentator of Wimby, Roger told to Henman that
he thinks he should be careful about Nishikori. Roger commented on his
play that he has a good imagination. I like his way of describing a
person.

SUKTUEN
07-20-2008, 03:33 PM
Is Show time!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALLEZ Roger!!!!!!!!!!!

ExpectedWinner
07-20-2008, 04:17 PM
We'd have called it a "cupcake" draw in the past. It'd be interesting to see how he matches up with Gulbis. If Fed did not recover from the W final, he can cause the upset.

RogiFan88
07-20-2008, 04:42 PM
after waiting all day to see Rogi yesterday, it paid off... practice w Peter Polansky, cut short by the rain, too bad, he w have practised w Stan too... but it was well worth it just to see Rogi again, looking so cute and chatting away w Higueras! good one!


now off again in the pouring rain all day... T-storms to come... in short, a total washout today... not a good thing...

Exclusive
07-20-2008, 04:45 PM
We'd have called it a "cupcake" draw in the past. It'd be interesting to see how he matches up with Gulbis. If Fed did not recover from the W final, he can cause the upset.
Hm, I think the only 'thing' he need recover from is Nadal. Fed did not lose to Gulbis and others 4 times this year. I can't see Federer in that 'Wimbledon form' losing someone in a match he really wants to win.

Sunset of Age
07-20-2008, 04:47 PM
Hm, I think the only 'thing' he need recover from is Nadal. Fed did not lose to Gulbis and others 4 times this year. I can't see Federer in that 'Wimbledon form' losing someone in a match he really wants to win.

Well said, Andrew. As much as a drama some people make of the loss, Fed was really in good form in Wimbly. If he's managed to deal with it mentally, I would be highly surprised if he doesn't at least make it to the final in Toronto.
There, I've said it. :angel:

ExpectedWinner
07-20-2008, 05:34 PM
Hm, I think the only 'thing' he need recover from is Nadal. Fed did not lose to Gulbis and others 4 times this year. I can't see Federer in that 'Wimbledon form' losing someone in a match he really wants to win.

Well, most players need some time to recover from the disappoitment of losing in a GS final. For example, Nadal who's known for having very strong assets between the ears and between the legs, took some time to recover from W losses in 2006/07. Fed lost two GS finals in a row, and the W loss was a "disaster"(his words)

As for Gulbis, he's a talented young player. Every decent young player has beaten Fed at least once. I'm sure everyone in the locker room feels that now is a good time to beat Fed. He's not confident as he's been, his movement/bh/returns have been deteriorating for the last 12 month or so. Both Gulbis and Gonzalez are decent hc players and they will be fancing their chances this time around.

I guess we'll see how Fed does summer. I prefer not to put unhuman expectations on him/pretend that these losses have not affected him at all.

Exclusive
07-20-2008, 06:28 PM
Well, most players need some time to recover from the disappoitment of losing in a GS final. For example, Nadal who's known for having very strong assets between the ears and between the legs, took some time to recover from W losses in 2006/07. Fed lost two GS finals in a row, and the W loss was a "disaster"(his words).
As for Gulbis, he's a talented young player. Every decent young player has beaten Fed at least once. I'm sure everyone in the locker room feels that now is a good time to beat Fed. He's not confident as he's been, his movement/bh/returns has been deteriorating for the last 12 month or so. Both Gulbis and Gonzalez are decent hc players and they will be fancing their chances this time around.
I guess we'll see how Fed does summer. I prefer not to put unhuman expectations on him/pretend that these losses have not affected him at all.
Substantially I can understand you. I can't say I have the different feelings at all. But. Nadal recovered hard from W losses 06/07 while he was not a good HC player. Federer is recovering being the best HC player. He knows he can beat Nadal and everyone on the surface they will play right now.
I like Gulbis' potential and I like to see him progressing. But I can't see he is taking two sets from Federer in a match that Federer wants to win. I mean I don't know what kind of motivation we may to expect of Fed... I feel he wants to win a decent tournament after all that happened.
As for the expectations I prefer him to bring his best during the USO. Any else tournament may have an upset or a success result - I don't really care. Anyway better be to win Toronto than to lose it. Yes, it was a disaster like he said; yes, all the year was a **ing disaster for him and for us.

In conclusion, I see Federer's game right now is as good as in the end of 2007. Do you agree?
After this year's Wimbledon final the only thing I care is Federer to play tennis. Just to play. Just to play his tennis. The tennis I love to see. The results, Slams, records are secondary.

ExpectedWinner
07-20-2008, 07:18 PM
In conclusion, I see Federer's game right now is as good as in the end of 2007. Do you agree?


It's hard to say. His movement is not as good as it was at TMC, but not as sluggish as it was at Cinci. IMO, his returning of the 1st serve has declined. In the past, he had a lot of 0-40, 15-40 return games, eventually an opponent crumbled under presssure and made an UE on a bp. That allowed Fed to get away with passive 2nd returns/wasting bps. Now players often hold 40-0/15 against him, he has less opportunities to break and feels more pressure on his own service games. As crude oil pointed out, his game at this year W had been reduced to serve and fh only; his bh and volleys need a lot of work to bring them back on the 2006/2007AO level.

crude oil
07-20-2008, 09:14 PM
eh. im not sure i have a good feeling for the rest of the season.

I thought fed could turn it around at wimbledon the way sampras could always turn a tragic year into a successful one. But well we knew what happened.

I think federer's form is back. The problem is playing well when it counts against guys like djoker, nadal etc. Federer's play on the big pts has been slipping and that to me is the biggest concern. In 2004-2006, federer was not in "god-mode" all the time contrary to what legend says. Its just that fed was incredible on the big points even when his form was subpar.

Ive noticed that on the big pts, federer is fantastic with his serve but that on the baseline he becomes very tentative. The new crop of rivals - djoko and nadal are way too solid on the baseline to make mistakes, and have enough firepower to hurt roger if the ball is short. Federer has problems maintaining consistent depth on the bh and players like nadal and djoko who are solid on both sides exploit this extremely well.

Psychologically it is difficult for federer because now all the fhs become more difficult and he has to hit so many on the run casuing errors and shorter balls etc. This just opens up the whole court against roger.

crude oil
07-20-2008, 09:50 PM
Federer was noted for having one of the best trasition games in history when he first burst onto the scene. He made the transition from baseline to net seamless and he could consistently step into fhs or hit acute slices and follow them up with volley put aways. He was so fast and his footwork so precise. As the years have gone by federer has become a baseliner and while this has certainly worked, he will have to go back to what made him a "superior talent". His transition game has really regressed.

Federer was never going to be as solid as djoko or as tough from the baseline as nadal but what separates him is his versatility. Fed needs to utilize this more and more as his lateral movement suffers and he cannot play defense hoping for the other to make an error.

NYCtennisfan
07-20-2008, 11:04 PM
The fact is, since this situation has arisen, Djokovic has tended to land in Nadal's half more than he has in Federer's.

But so what - it's the luck of the draw.

Besides which, if draws were done the old way, Federer would ALWAYS draw the #4 seed and Nadal and Djokovic would ALWAYS play each other in the semis at every event like this.

If we're only looking at this year in the big tournaments:

AO: Fed's half
IW: Nadal's half
Miami: Nadal's half
MC: Fed's half
Roma: Fed's half
Hamburg: Nadal's half
RG: Nadal's half
Wimbledon: Fed's half

4-4 coming into Canada and Djoko lands in Nadal's half. In Cincy, it's still 50-50 but I think he'll land in Fed's half. Seems pretty even to me for this year at least.

If you go back to last year when Djoko became #3 then you have

Canada: Nadal's half
Cincy: Fed's half
USO: Nadal's half
Madrid: Nadal's half
Paris: Fed's half
TMC: Nadal's group

and then add Dubai from this year: Nadal's half, then overall, you have

Nadal's side: 10
Fed's side: 6

That's a pretty big discrpency there overall.

scoobs
07-20-2008, 11:07 PM
If we're only looking at this year in the big tournaments:

AO: Fed's half
IW: Nadal's half
Miami: Nadal's half
MC: Fed's half
Roma: Fed's half
Hamburg: Nadal's half
RG: Nadal's half
Wimbledon: Fed's half

4-4 coming into Canada and Djoko lands in Nadal's half. In Cincy, it's still 50-50 but I think he'll land in Fed's half. Seems pretty even to me.
If you go back and include last year since Djokovic became #3 it becomes a bit more unbalanced.

Regardless, it's just not very interesting and it's dull how wound up people get over it.

NYCtennisfan
07-20-2008, 11:14 PM
Federer was noted for having one of the best trasition games in history when he first burst onto the scene. He made the transition from baseline to net seamless and he could consistently step into fhs or hit acute slices and follow them up with volley put aways. He was so fast and his footwork so precise. As the years have gone by federer has become a baseliner and while this has certainly worked, he will have to go back to what made him a "superior talent". His transition game has really regressed.

Federer was never going to be as solid as djoko or as tough from the baseline as nadal but what separates him is his versatility. Fed needs to utilize this more and more as his lateral movement suffers and he cannot play defense hoping for the other to make an error.

His FH has not been as good or hit as flat which means he has less opportunities to 'transistion' to net. In 2003, 2004 and 2005, if you hit an average to slightly-above ball to Fed's FH, you were immediately on the defensive. If you hit a less than average ball, the point was over. Roddick mentioned this in an interview in 2005 or 2004. That's not the case anymore. Go back to the Tipsy match. Tipsy hit a lot of average balls that Federer didn't rip and then transistion to net.

Then again, he hasn't had much problem going for his CC FH-FH dtl combo, attack net against most opponents.

NYCtennisfan
07-20-2008, 11:15 PM
If you go back and include last year since Djokovic became #3 it becomes a bit more unbalanced.

Regardless, it's just not very interesting and it's dull how wound up people get over it.

Looks like I edited the post just as you wrote your post. ;)

scoobs
07-20-2008, 11:20 PM
Roger's draw is as kind as it probably could be - I hope he can take advantage.

NYCtennisfan
07-20-2008, 11:23 PM
It's hard to say. His movement is not as good as it was at TMC, but not as sluggish as it was at Cinci. IMO, his returning of the 1st serve has declined. In the past, he had a lot of 0-40, 15-40 return games, eventually an opponent crumbled under presssure and made an UE on a bp. That allowed Fed to get away with passive 2nd returns/wasting bps. Now players often hold 40-0/15 against him, he has less opportunities to break and feels more pressure on his own service games. As crude oil pointed out, his game at this year W had been reduced to serve and fh only; his bh and volleys need a lot of work to bring them back on the 2006/2007AO level.

This is a very good point. In the past, unless you had a monster serve or
Fed was taking it easy because the match was near the end and in the bag, it was very, very difficult to hold at love against him. His timing is not as good for one thing on the returns. On top of this, he doesn't dominate as many of the rallies and that includes against other players besides Djoko or Nadal.

Overall, his BH was nothing against Nadal, barely a rally shot. He didn't need the topspin BH against all the other players (slice BH, FH and serve were enough), but against Nadal he needed to have options in the exchanges and he desperately needed BH dtl which he hasn't hit well all year. It's not just the bh dtl for a winner, but the one he was hitting in 2006 and early 2007 i.e. 18-24 inches from the sidelines, 12-15 inches from the baseline which drew shortish CC FH's from his opponents which he could then attack with the FH and come to net. He didn't have enough options against Nadal in the rallies on Nadal's serve without his BH which was reduced to slice, slice (the slice not really taking), and an abbreviated 'bunt' BH. He'll need that BH a lot more on hardcourts so we'll see if he's ironed it out.

rofe
07-21-2008, 01:43 AM
Fed (other than any other player out there) depends a lot on "feel" and rhythm in his game. His game was never built around brute force or raw power. It is built around exact timing. This huge dependency on timing had its upside during 2004-2006 when he was at his peak with respect to movement and anticipation since his timing is directly proportional to both of them.

Ironically, we got to see how dependent he was on movement and anticipation to provide that timing in 2007 when he lost some of that movement. The running forehand while not lethal like Pete's was something that would send the ball deep into the opponent's side and could not be exploited started to show signs of being exploited. The FH side which was rock solid could now be exploited fairly easily as well.

Next came the loss of anticipation in 2008. This along with the relative lack of movement resulted in more shanks as he couldn't anticipate an opponent's groundstroke. More importantly, the loss of anticipation resulted in what seemed like poor return games on an opponent's serve. It was a pity that when he finally recovered from mono, the tour was already going into the worst part of the season (and Nadal's best) so several beatings from Nadal took its toll on his confidence. Also, it doesn't help that Nadal has found his peak game this season while Fed is still trying to fine tune his.

I am fairly confident that his regression with respect to volleys and the BH is in equal part lack of movement, anticipation and confidence.

He can get most of his movement back by working hard during the off-season in December (he simply does not have time before that) and with that he should get some of that anticipation back. Some of that anticipation is unfortunately tied to his confidence level so it is important that he wins some big tournaments to get his confidence back.

Hopefully he can start off with a big win at the Roger's Masters.

yanchr
07-21-2008, 03:26 AM
oh here we go again.

Positive or negative, it's nice to see you guys all coming back in full swing :D

Let's hope Roger has a good start to the HC season.

Sunset of Age
07-21-2008, 04:16 AM
Roger's draw is as kind as it probably could be - I hope he can take advantage.

Yep. Go, Rogi! :D :D :D

trickcy
07-21-2008, 06:57 AM
We's have called this draw a cupcake one 1-2 years ago.
Come on Roger, let's do this! Allez!

Daniel
07-21-2008, 07:47 AM
Good luck Roger :bounce: :bounce:

SUKTUEN
07-21-2008, 11:09 AM
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D

Eden
07-21-2008, 05:52 PM
Short interview with Roger:

http://www.atpmastersseries.tv/page/Montreal/Interviews/0,,11444~1347677,00.html

didadida
07-21-2008, 05:56 PM
Short interview with Roger:

http://www.atpmastersseries.tv/page/Montreal/Interviews/0,,11444~1347677,00.html

thanks dear :D

Allez Rogii :worship:

didadida
07-21-2008, 08:47 PM
when Roger is going to play?

Eden
07-21-2008, 09:15 PM
thanks dear :D


You are welcome Donna :hug:

when Roger is going to play?

He plays doubles today with Stan against Benneteau/Niemeyer.

His first single match will probably take place on Wednesday because his 2nd round opponent will have to play their 1st round match yet.

didadida
07-21-2008, 11:16 PM
You are welcome Donna :hug:



He plays doubles today with Stan against Benneteau/Niemeyer.

His first single match will probably take place on Wednesday because his 2nd round opponent will have to play their 1st round match yet.

thanks Doris :hug:

Rogieva
07-22-2008, 12:23 AM
I did not realise Roger was playing doubles too :)

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 12:25 AM
I did not realise Roger was playing doubles too :)

A bit of practice for the Olympics I guess, as he'll be playing the doubles with Stan over there as well. BTW, Rafa is playing doubles as well in Toronto.
Might well be an indication that they expect the court in Shanghai to play at least a little bit like the one in Toronto. :yeah:

Nando_L
07-22-2008, 12:27 AM
Roger/Stan 6-4 2-2* Niemeyer/Benneteau :)

Rogieva
07-22-2008, 12:28 AM
A bit of practice for the Olympics I guess, as he'll be playing the doubles with Stan over there as well. BTW, Rafa is playing doubles as well in Toronto.
Might well be an indication that they expect the court in Shanghai to play at least a little bit like the one in Toronto. :yeah:

Yeah, I guess so. I can't remember the last time Roger played doubles. Hey, it was probably pretty recent :lol:

Who is Rafa playing with?

nobama
07-22-2008, 12:32 AM
A bit of practice for the Olympics I guess, as he'll be playing the doubles with Stan over there as well. BTW, Rafa is playing doubles as well in Toronto.
Might well be an indication that they expect the court in Shanghai to play at least a little bit like the one in Toronto. :yeah:Olympic courts are going to be DecoTurf II. I'm guessing it's very similar to US Open. All I have to say to that is :D

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 12:32 AM
Yeah, I guess so. I can't remember the last time Roger played doubles. Hey, it was probably pretty recent :lol:

Nah, it has been quite a while ago... can't really remember myself! ;)

Who is Rafa playing with?

Tommy Robredo.

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 12:33 AM
Olympic courts are going to be DecoTurf II. I'm guessing it's very similar to US Open. All I have to say to that is :D

Thanks for the info. Yeah, that sounds promising at least. :D

RogerFan82
07-22-2008, 12:37 AM
Come on Roger !!! Start the HC season with a bang. I'm betting on you to go all the way this week. :rocker2::rocker2:

Nando_L
07-22-2008, 12:44 AM
Roger/Stan serving for the match :rocker2:

Rogieva
07-22-2008, 12:47 AM
Stan BP serving for match :(

Oh no, saved with ace!

40/40 - MP or BP!

Rogieva
07-22-2008, 12:47 AM
GSM Federer/Wawrinka 64 64 :)

Nando_L
07-22-2008, 12:47 AM
Roger/Stan def. Niemeyer/Benneteau 6-4 6-4 :clap2:

riddle05580
07-22-2008, 12:47 AM
A bit of practice for the Olympics I guess, as he'll be playing the doubles with Stan over there as well. BTW, Rafa is playing doubles as well in Toronto.
Might well be an indication that they expect the court in Shanghai to play at least a little bit like the one in Toronto. :yeah:

The Olympic tennis match will be held in Beijing Olympic Green Tennis Court:
http://images.beijing2008.cn/20071008/Img214172701.jpg
I think it's quite different from the indoor courts in Shanghai Qizhong Forest Sports City Tennis Center which are used for TMC.

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 12:48 AM
Well done Rogi & Wawa! :bounce:
Hopefully we'll soon get a report on how Roger's playing looked.

riddle05580
07-22-2008, 12:49 AM
Roger and Wawa won their doubles :D Congrats!

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 12:49 AM
The Olympic tennis match will be held in Beijing Olympic Green Tennis Court:
http://http://images.beijing2008.cn/20071008/Img214172701.jpg
I think it's quite different from the indoor courts in Shanghai Qizhong Forest Sports City Tennis Center which are used for TMC.

I stand corrected of course. :hug:

nobama
07-22-2008, 12:53 AM
Thanks for the info. Yeah, that sounds promising at least. :D
Makes sense really considering the season.

And Roger and Stan win. Good. :)

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/federer8/federer%204/9ddb32907f5600215c17b8055946128a-ge.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/federer8/federer%204/8b0a8975717efb5659e8ff29222ae583-ge.jpg

scoobs
07-22-2008, 12:56 AM
Well start Roger and Stan :)

Go FederWawa at the Olympics too.

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 12:57 AM
Well start Roger and Stan :)

Go FederWawa at the Olympics too.

Federinka. ;)

riddle05580
07-22-2008, 12:59 AM
There're some pics of the Olympics courts. As much as beautiful they may look like, I just hope the Olympics game won't bother Roger's preparation for the US Open. After all, US Open is the much more important tournament, and he really need a Grand Slam title this year.

http://images.beijing2008.cn/20071008/Img214172701.jpg

http://images.beijing2008.cn/20071008/Img214172700.jpg

RogerFan82
07-22-2008, 01:02 AM
Congrats Roger & Stani !!!!

scoobs
07-22-2008, 01:03 AM
Nice stadium.

didadida
07-22-2008, 01:49 AM
Federinka. ;)

like the name ;):D

Rommella
07-22-2008, 01:54 AM
Fed (other than any other player out there) depends a lot on "feel" and rhythm in his game. His game was never built around brute force or raw power. It is built around exact timing. This huge dependency on timing had its upside during 2004-2006 when he was at his peak with respect to movement and anticipation since his timing is directly proportional to both of them.

Ironically, we got to see how dependent he was on movement and anticipation to provide that timing in 2007 when he lost some of that movement. The running forehand while not lethal like Pete's was something that would send the ball deep into the opponent's side and could not be exploited started to show signs of being exploited. The FH side which was rock solid could now be exploited fairly easily as well.

Next came the loss of anticipation in 2008. This along with the relative lack of movement resulted in more shanks as he couldn't anticipate an opponent's groundstroke. More importantly, the loss of anticipation resulted in what seemed like poor return games on an opponent's serve. It was a pity that when he finally recovered from mono, the tour was already going into the worst part of the season (and Nadal's best) so several beatings from Nadal took its toll on his confidence. Also, it doesn't help that Nadal has found his peak game this season while Fed is still trying to fine tune his.

I am fairly confident that his regression with respect to volleys and the BH is in equal part lack of movement, anticipation and confidence.

He can get most of his movement back by working hard during the off-season in December (he simply does not have time before that) and with that he should get some of that anticipation back. Some of that anticipation is unfortunately tied to his confidence level so it is important that he wins some big tournaments to get his confidence back.

Hopefully he can start off with a big win at the Roger's Masters.


I think you nailed it. As a fan, I'd say I may have been in denial about him slowing down a quarter step but his movement and anticipation skills have not been as they were. Of course, he has set the bar so high, especially with 2006, that anything less is :eek:.

More than the mono, am actually thinking his perennial foot problem may have been acting up again, and that he has been keeping that out of the public eye. That when everything is over, we'll be floored big time by how he was able to continue playing, and playing great, even with the extent of the foot injury.

riddle05580
07-22-2008, 01:58 AM
Federinka. ;)

Cute name indeed.:D I like it.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj21/Vespartine/cd163b70ced4f021f80200b13c9c88b4-ge.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj21/Vespartine/rogerewoktoronto.jpg

Rogi looked so adorable in this outfit.:drool::hearts:

scoobs
07-22-2008, 02:00 AM
Yep - I like the white on blue shirt and shorts combo - love the colour of the headband too.

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 02:01 AM
More than the mono, am actually thinking his perennial foot problem may have been acting up again, and that he has been keeping that out of the public eye. That when everything is over, we'll be floored big time by how he was able to continue playing, and playing great, even with the extent of the foot injury.

Sorry, but I don't believe this to be the case AT ALL. Roger has pretty much come back close to his form of old during the past three months, and did very, very well both in Halle and at Wimbledon - not a trace of impaired footwork over there. It was obvious that the slowness of the first couple of months was due to lack of play and practice due to the aftermaths of mono, and since then, he's been continuously improving.

He could have lost Wimbly last year just as much as he did this year, has everybody forgotten that already? :shrug:

nobama
07-22-2008, 03:09 AM
Yep - I like the white on blue shirt and shorts combo - love the colour of the headband too.Not crazy about the multiple shades of blue. But I do like that he's wearing fitted shirts & shorts. None of this baggy shit that looks like it's a size too big.

yanchr
07-22-2008, 03:35 AM
Sorry, but I don't believe this to be the case AT ALL. Roger has pretty much come back close to his form of old during the past three months, and did very, very well both in Halle and at Wimbledon - not a trace of impaired footwork over there. It was obvious that the slowness of the first couple of months was due to lack of play and practice due to the aftermaths of mono, and since then, he's been continuously improving.
I thought you must be joking about this...

He was playing and moving much better than the beginning of this year, but saying he was back to close to his old form......My opinion is no way he will be able to be back ever again to even close to his old peak form. Aging will have a natural and progressive effect on human's body. He is not going back.

Of course, it doesn't mean he can't play well and he has indeed been continuously improving this year after mono...

He could have lost Wimbly last year just as much as he did this year, has everybody forgotten that already? :shrug:
For me, they were totally different matches. Last year, Roger did NOTHING for the most part of the match apart from the serve. I think technically he played much better this year, not sure about physically though. Nadal's improvement is tremendous.


That said, enough is enough about Wimbledon. Let's just move on :p

nobama
07-22-2008, 05:23 AM
I'm not convinced that Roger can't get back to (or at least close to) the form he once had. This year he was sick and since coming back from illness has had zero time to really practice and train hard. I'm not suggesting he'll be back to his peak in terms of movement but I also don't think it's all down hill from here with no turning back.

trickcy
07-22-2008, 05:36 AM
I don't think it's going to be completely downhill and that he won't win a slam anymore either. But, it will be a lot harder than before in terms of his movement, and as others mentioned his anticipation, and the mental aspect as well. The closer he gets to that 14, the greater the pressure, and all that.
At any rate, for now, :woohoo: Federinka (thanks for the name, :D thought it sounds like something related to ballet :o :p) won their first match!!

NYCtennisfan
07-22-2008, 05:40 AM
Federer looks to be in good shape. Looking forward to see him in action.

SUKTUEN
07-22-2008, 06:15 AM
Congrat Roger win the doubles!!

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 11:04 AM
I thought you must be joking about this...

Why? :confused:

Of course, it doesn't mean he can't play well and he has indeed been continuously improving this year after mono...

That's exactly what I said. OF course we should take into account the aging process and all, but Roger is going to be a force to reckon with for at least another two, three years.

For me, they were totally different matches.

:confused: Both matches were very close and decided on just a few big points, and in both matches Rafa won both his sets a lot easier than Roger did (TBs), so you might well could have said that Rafa deserved to win last year just as much as he did this year.

Last year, Roger did NOTHING for the most part of the match apart from the serve. I think technically he played much better this year, not sure about physically though. Nadal's improvement is tremendous.

Are you actually saying that Roger was on the verge of giving away that match last year, because he did 'nothing'? :rolleyes:
I saw a guy fighting like a lion to keep his territory, and prevailing in the end. Might just have been me. Despite all of Rafa's improvement (which was there last year already as well, btw), this year the same could have happened, but the coin flipped the other way.

Federer looks to be in good shape. Looking forward to see him in action.

Thanks NYC. My thoughts exactly, but coming from you, it might be just a little bit more convincing. ;)

yanchr
07-22-2008, 12:12 PM
Are you actually saying that Roger was on the verge of giving away that match last year, because he did 'nothing'? :rolleyes:
I saw a guy fighting like a lion to keep his territory, and prevailing in the end. Might just have been me.
I don't have to reiterate how I admire him fighting hard to fense off Nadal to show that I actually do admire that a lot, do I...I meant technically he played a poor match last year, which has nothing to do with him fighting or not.

I'm definitely not saying he is going all downhill, but I'm just not expecting him to go back to his peak form and don't think he can or will. But I do expect him to play well in the coming HC season. For me the way he has been playing through the clay season, and then grass, despite the loss, forebodes positive things ahead.

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 12:40 PM
I don't have to reiterate how I admire him fighting hard to fense off Nadal to show that I actually do admire that a lot, do I...I meant technically he played a poor match last year, which has nothing to do with him fighting or not.

Okay... I understand what you meant now.
That he played a technically poor match I still can't agree with, but perhaps it was subpar to his standard, indeed.

I'm definitely not saying he is going all downhill, but I'm just not expecting him to go back to his peak form and don't think he can or will. But I do expect him to play well in the coming HC season. For me the way he has been playing through the clay season, and then grass, despite the loss, forebodes positive things ahead.

We surely are in agreement here. :D
As for his peak form, however, I believe he will get it back, might even be that he's already there.
That, however, doesn't necessarily mean he will be back dominating like he did 2004 - 2007; people should realize that during that incredible winning streak of his, there were quite a few 'fortunate' victories as well - not all of them were due to his überfantastic play. It's not merely craft and talent, sometimes a player needs a little luck as well.

In other words: it might well be that his 'invincibility' during the 2004 - 2007-period has been rather overestimated, and the same can be said about his 'decline' of the past 8 months. ;)

yanchr
07-22-2008, 12:55 PM
In other words: it might well be that his 'invincibility' during the 2004 - 2007-period has been rather overestimated, and the same can be said about his 'decline' of the past 8 months. ;)
Confidence plays a big part in either period...Hopefully he can win some big titles soon to know that he can still win big titles, to kind of make up for the tough loss recently - the titles will have to be big enough :tape: :p

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 01:02 PM
Confidence plays a big part in either period...Hopefully he can win some big titles soon to know that he can still win big titles, to kind of make up for the tough loss recently - the titles will have to be big enough :tape: :p

Yes indeed. The USO, and/or the Olympics would do the trick perfectly well. BTW, I think that he should by now realize that the Wimbly loss of course felt very bad to him, but when putting things into perspective, one can also draw the very positive conclusion that he nearly got that title - while I remember well that around February, March, people were actually not even counting on him to come anywhere close to the final!

In other words: all will be well. Give it time. :D

Puschkin
07-22-2008, 01:41 PM
In other words: it might well be that his 'invincibility' during the 2004 - 2007-period has been rather overestimated, and the same can be said about his 'decline' of the past 8 months. ;)
Of course, luck is part of the game, even if some people deny it. I don't think, however, that Roger's streak from 2004-2007 was overestimated. It was absolutely sensational: What is overrated is his decline. He might not have success again like in the period quoted, but he still is a contender for the big prizes. Having watched tennis for a long time, I feel the sport has returned to "normal" with more guys in the picture, not just Roger and to a smaller, but still considerable extent Nadal deciding the tourneys more or less among them. And frankly, this is not only bad. ;)

juninhOH
07-22-2008, 01:52 PM
I don't see a problem with his movement. IMO if he had movemente problems, or was even a tidy slower, BELIEVE me he would be crushed 3-0 by Nadal.

nobama
07-22-2008, 02:01 PM
Having watched tennis for a long time, I feel the sport has returned to "normal" with more guys in the picture, not just Roger and to a smaller, but still considerable extent Nadal deciding the tourneys more or less among them. And frankly, this is not only bad. ;)Hmm...over the past 3 months or so there was, what, one tournament that Roger and Nadal both played in where they didn't face each other in the final (Rome). IMO, the only thing that's made this year "normal" is Roger being in a bit of a slump compared to his level of previous years.

For selfish reasons, I don't want the rest of the year to be "normal" because I wish for Roger to win as many events as he can the rest of the year. :lol:

Puschkin
07-22-2008, 02:09 PM
IMO, the only thing that's made this year "normal" is Roger being in a bit of a slump compared to his level of previous years.

Djokovic winning a GS, Davydenko winning a masters, in which both Roger and Nadal played - that is what I meant by normal.

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 02:36 PM
Of course, luck is part of the game, even if some people deny it. I don't think, however, that Roger's streak from 2004-2007 was overestimated. It was absolutely sensational:

Fully agree with you. BTW, with 'overestimated' I might have expressed myself a bit crappy. I just meant to say that it hasn't, like some claim, been an easy road for Roger, even if it might have looked like that at times. With that, I actually meant to hint towards all those fools claiming that Roger only won all those titles because of his opponents 'bowing down' for him, it being a 'mug era', and so forth... which is utter nonsense of course.

In the end, the guy that wins a title is the one that deserves that title, even if there is a bit of luck involved at times. :rocker2:

Puschkin
07-22-2008, 02:43 PM
... with 'overestimated' I might have expressed myself a bit crappy. I just meant to say that it hasn't, like some claim, been an easy road for Roger, even if it might have looked like that at times.

I think we fully agree. :wavey: But making things look so "easy" was exactly what made this run so special.

... In the end, the guy that wins a title is the one that deserves that title, even if there is a bit of luck involved at times. :rocker2:

Again agreed, even if it is sometimes hard to see your man losing having scored 10 more points than the opposition and winning all the stats.

Sunset of Age
07-22-2008, 02:49 PM
Again agreed, even if it is sometimes hard to see your man losing having scored 10 more points than the opposition and winning all the stats.

:yeah:... and mererly because the Wimbly final was actually that close, in a 5-sets match that lasted 4 hours and 48 minutes, I vehemently refuse to believe that Roger's time is 'over' (apparently I have a talent for Positive Thinking :D)...

PS:... CD is let out of the asylum again. o_O. :help: :tape:

riddle05580
07-22-2008, 03:28 PM
:yeah:... and mererly because the Wimbly final was actually that close, in a 5-sets match that lasted 4 hours and 48 minutes, I vehemently refuse to believe that Roger's time is 'over' (apparently I have a talent for Positive Thinking :D)...

PS:... CD is let out of the asylum again. o_O. :help: :tape:

That epic final brought out the best from both two players. Despite the heartbreaking result, Roger indeed played amazing tennis in the last three sets. I was deeply touched by his fighting spirit by coming up from two sets down in that final, but as we all agree with, losing such a close match simply pained even more. Even after all these days, the mere thought of that match still hurt :sad: --- I'm such a whiner :tape:

:yeah: Let's move on and keep a positive mindset. From what we saw from the Wimbledon final, I believe that Roger recovered well from his illness --- it must be hard for him in this previous half of year. However, maybe we could not ignore the aging things, but I think Roger's still capable of playing great tennis as his old self. Maybe what's important now is that he could bielive in himself and pick up his formidable self-confidence again. He's far from so called 'over', and he's not a quitter like Borg. I believe in his devotion in tennis, and may all these painful frustrations make him stronger.

glycina
07-22-2008, 04:35 PM
That epic final brought out the best from both two players. Despite the heartbreaking result, Roger indeed played amazing tennis in the last three sets. I was deeply touched by his fighting spirit by coming up from two sets down in that final, but as we all agree with, losing such a close match simply pained even more. Even after all these days, the mere thought of that match still hurt :sad: --- I'm such a whiner :tape:


Yes! In Japan too, many people have become fans of Federer, by
watching the final. And many people were impressed especially by
BHDL which made him get the 4th set, and not by the error of the
FH which made him miss the title.

From his illness, I think he has not yet completely recovered. He looks always a little bit tired. The mono is an illness that leaves some hangovers. And we have to understand that it is already a miracle that Roger could keep on practicing till now without any injuries, in such a physical
condition.

SUKTUEN
07-22-2008, 07:30 PM
Roger!Please fight back in Hard season!
You can do it!!!!

FedFan_2007
07-22-2008, 09:58 PM
Face it Karin, Roger's time is over. As in kaput.

NYCtennisfan
07-22-2008, 11:13 PM
Face it Karin, Roger's time is over. As in kaput.

Stop trolling.

prima donna
07-22-2008, 11:50 PM
Stop trolling.
You're more of a diplomat than I could ever hope to be.

If I were the moderator of this forum, his posting rights would be revoked (At least in this particular player's section), most of what he contributes equates to garbage anyway.

riddle05580
07-23-2008, 12:54 AM
Wednesday's schedule is out.
http://www.rogerscupmen.com/2/en/draws/OrderOfPlayWednesday.pdf

Not Before 7:30 PM

Roger FEDERER (SUI) vs Gilles SIMON (FRA)

EternalxJourney
07-23-2008, 01:20 AM
Wednesday's schedule is out.
http://www.rogerscupmen.com/2/en/draws/OrderOfPlayWednesday.pdf

Not Before 7:30 PM

Roger FEDERER (SUI) vs Gilles SIMON (FRA)

Thanks.

GOOOO ROGER! (No pressure.)

NYCtennisfan
07-23-2008, 01:28 AM
You're more of a diplomat than I could ever hope to be.

If I were the moderator of this forum, his posting rights would be revoked (At least in this particular player's section), most of what he contributes equates to garbage anyway.

;) You would think that he would get the hint when nobody reponds to any of his posts or threads.

SUKTUEN
07-23-2008, 12:25 PM
Allez Roger!!!

You are my Tennis King!!!:bounce::bounce::bounce:

juninhOH
07-23-2008, 12:28 PM
Hum.. what now, I wanna watch Batman movie tonight, but its in the exact same time of Roger's Match.... :(

But I'm gonna watch it anyway. If he loses it's not my fault hehe :(

Daniel
07-23-2008, 01:25 PM
Hey Roger, have a good start tonight.
:kiss: :bounce:

marat_roger
07-23-2008, 01:35 PM
Good Luck Roger !! :D

glycina
07-23-2008, 01:44 PM
Bonne chance a toi, Rogi!

robinhood
07-23-2008, 09:19 PM
Hey Roger, have a good start tonight.
:kiss: :bounce:

That is, if he gets to play at all!
It's 4:18 PM eastern time, and is it still raining???
The live scoreboard is still blank.

Sunset of Age
07-23-2008, 09:21 PM
That is, if he gets to play at all!
It's 4:18 PM eastern time, and is it still raining???
The live scoreboard is still blank.

It stopped raining, people are busy working to get the courts dry right now. I expect Roger not to play today anymore though, as there are three matches scheduled before his - not even to mention that match between Safin and Querrey, which is still a R1 match.

Sunset of Age
07-23-2008, 09:30 PM
Apparently some changes have been made in the schedule: on CC, first Rafa's match, thereafter Roger's. So we'll probably see him play tonight after all! :D

nobama
07-23-2008, 09:32 PM
It stopped raining, people are busy working to get the courts dry right now. I expect Roger not to play today anymore though, as there are three matches scheduled before his - not even to mention that match between Safin and Querrey, which is still a R1 match.Yeah but the way tickets are sold are there are two sessions - day and night. Roger was scheduled for the night session.

The new OOP is here:http://www.rogerscupmen.com/2/en/draws/OrderOfPlayWednesday.pdf

Nadal plays not before 4.30, then Roger not before 7.30 and after that is the winner of the Safin/Querry match against Wawrinka. I don't see Roger's doubles match on here anywhere though.

Sunset of Age
07-23-2008, 09:48 PM
Yeah but the way tickets are sold are there are two sessions - day and night. Roger was scheduled for the night session.

The new OOP is here:http://www.rogerscupmen.com/2/en/draws/OrderOfPlayWednesday.pdf

Nadal plays not before 4.30, then Roger not before 7.30 and after that is the winner of the Safin/Querry match against Wawrinka. I don't see Roger's doubles match on here anywhere though.

So, this will be a very, very late night for me, that's for sure... ;)
Hope Rafa speeds it up. Oh, eh, oops. :lol:

robinhood
07-23-2008, 09:54 PM
So, this will be a very, very late night for me, that's for sure... ;)
Hope Rafa speeds it up. Oh, eh, oops. :lol:

:tape:
But Rafa is a good guy. Maybe he will pick his ass every other point.

Sunset of Age
07-23-2008, 10:14 PM
Right now it's Levine that is speeding things up! :eek:

juninhOH
07-23-2008, 10:18 PM
hope nadal loses right now on the 1st round, but thats like improbable

that would boost rogers chance of ending the year as #1 a lot

Sunset of Age
07-23-2008, 10:29 PM
hope nadal loses right now on the 1st round, but thats like improbable

that would boost rogers chance of ending the year as #1 a lot

Don't think it will happen - Rafa is upping his level quite a bit right now. ;)

riddle05580
07-23-2008, 10:34 PM
Yeah but the way tickets are sold are there are two sessions - day and night. Roger was scheduled for the night session.

The new OOP is here:http://www.rogerscupmen.com/2/en/draws/OrderOfPlayWednesday.pdf

Nadal plays not before 4.30, then Roger not before 7.30 and after that is the winner of the Safin/Querry match against Wawrinka. I don't see Roger's doubles match on here anywhere though.

Did they revise the oop again? or this schedule I saw is outdated?
http://www.rogerscupmen.com/2/en/draws/opwednesdayrevised.pdf

In this schedule there is still a Murray vs Johansson match between Rafa's match and Roger's match, and Roger's match is still at not before 7.30 pm as the arrangement.

robinhood
07-23-2008, 11:13 PM
Did they revise the oop again? or this schedule I saw is outdated?
http://www.rogerscupmen.com/2/en/draws/opwednesdayrevised.pdf

In this schedule there is still a Murray vs Johansson match between Rafa's match and Roger's match, and Roger's match is still at not before 7.30 pm as the arrangement.

Yeah, that OOP was the original one they posted before the long rain delay today.

riddle05580
07-24-2008, 12:17 AM
Yeah, that OOP was the original one they posted before the long rain delay today.

Thank you for the information.:hug: Now I also found out the right schedule.:D

http://www.rogerscupmen.com/2/en/draws/opwednesdayrevised2.pdf

Allez Rogi!!

neenah
07-24-2008, 12:28 AM
Does anyone know of a livestream?! I'm desperate!! :awww:

clever1980
07-24-2008, 12:37 AM
Does anyone know of a livestream?! I'm desperate!! :awww:

Channel Surfing, Star sports is showing Roger's match.

http://www.channelsurfing.net/

neenah
07-24-2008, 12:40 AM
Channel Surfing, Star sports is showing Roger's match.

http://www.channelsurfing.net/

Thank you!! :worship: I always forget about Channel Surfing :D

clever1980
07-24-2008, 12:43 AM
Thank you!! :worship: I always forget about Channel Surfing :D

You are welcome!! Good start for Roger.. :):)

Sunset of Age
07-24-2008, 12:43 AM
Channel Surfing, Star sports is showing Roger's match.

http://www.channelsurfing.net/

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Betfair is still showing Acasuso/Gonzales and don't broadcast Roger's match, the idiots...

clever1980
07-24-2008, 12:45 AM
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Betfair is still showing Acasuso/Gonzales and don't broadcast Roger's match, the idiots...

You are welcome. :)

elessar
07-24-2008, 12:49 AM
Karin go to bet365 they've got both matches, and the quality is better than channelsurfing IMO

el tenista
07-24-2008, 12:50 AM
Can somebody please tell me the umpire's name of Federer's match? Thanks in advance :)
Hope for a good win for Roger!

Marek.
07-24-2008, 12:50 AM
He attacked a few second serves already so pretty good start.

elessar
07-24-2008, 12:52 AM
He's missed a few shot but he's been pretty agressive so far and serving great as usual.

Marek.
07-24-2008, 12:52 AM
Can somebody please tell me the umpire's name of Federer's match? Thanks in advance :)
Hope for a good win for Roger!

I think Norm Christ.(?)

elessar
07-24-2008, 12:53 AM
Right on cue, 4 stupid shots in a row :mad:

elessar
07-24-2008, 12:57 AM
HE's hitting his FH pretty well :hearts:. Magnificent half volley just now :drool:. Already 5 aces in 3 service games :worship:. I'm chosing not to comment on the BH.