Wimbledon R1: Haas def. Canas 3-6, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4 [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Wimbledon R1: Haas def. Canas 3-6, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4

osalsyst
06-24-2008, 01:45 PM
I was like WTF? in the first set but Tommy turned it around quickly despite that third set lapse.

LMAO when he got foot-faulted in the first set. "I've never gotten foot-faulted in my life."

Good luck to him.

Basic Boy
06-24-2008, 01:47 PM
nice Haas good Haas

leng jai
06-24-2008, 01:48 PM
Almost clowned away the third set from 5-0 up. Time to give Boredo a lession in round 2.

Burrow
06-24-2008, 01:50 PM
Lucky that Canas got a left calf injury, could have been a very different result.

groundstroke
06-24-2008, 01:51 PM
Glad to see Haas winning again, very injury prone this year.. Granddady Canas is out. :devil:

Burrow
06-24-2008, 01:53 PM
grand daddy? he is like less than a year older than Haas...

Yappa
06-24-2008, 01:54 PM
Decent performance from Haas.

At the end of the 3rd set, for 2 mins or so there was no image & sound due to technical difficulties. Anyone else who noticed that or can I blame the german channel?
Who was doing the BBC commentary?

leng jai
06-24-2008, 01:55 PM
Did you record it Four:Love?

Yappa
06-24-2008, 01:56 PM
Yes, but why are you asking? :confused: ;)

Burrow
06-24-2008, 01:56 PM
Decent performance from Haas.

At the end of the 3rd set, for 2 mins or so there was no image & sound due to technical difficulties. Anyone else who noticed that or can I blame the german channel?
Who was doing the BBC commentary?

Chris Bailey I am sure and maybe John Lloyd but I'm not certain

Yappa
06-24-2008, 01:58 PM
Chris Bailey I am sure and maybe John Lloyd but I'm not certain

Thanks.
So you didn't notice any broadcast problems? Due to that I missed Haas winning the 3rd set.

leng jai
06-24-2008, 01:59 PM
You gonna upload it? Hehehee...

lorenz
06-24-2008, 02:00 PM
Cañas got injured?

Burrow
06-24-2008, 02:01 PM
Thanks.
So you didn't notice any broadcast problems? Due to that I missed Haas winning the 3rd set.

I was flicking through different matches and never got that part so I wouldn't know, but their have been problems ona couple of courts today, venus williams match had a couple of problems and fish gasquet, so could well be.

scoobs
06-24-2008, 02:01 PM
Wasn't John Lloyd - he's on the Gasquet match.

Why do you ask about the commentators?

dam0dred
06-24-2008, 02:05 PM
Always good to see cheaters lose.

Yappa
06-24-2008, 02:06 PM
You gonna upload it? Hehehee...

Probably. Don't know if it'll be by using a torrent or megaupload.

I was flicking through different matches and never got that part so I wouldn't know, but their have been problems ona couple of courts today, venus williams match had a couple of problems and fish gasquet, so could well be.

Yeah, the Venus match was affected as well. For example the end of TB of the first set. Guess we can blame the BBC then.

Wasn't John Lloyd - he's on the Gasquet match.

Oh, okay. So anyone else who has an idea who the 2nd commentator was?

Why do you ask about the commentators?

The german channel which is broadcasting Wimbledon (on two channels and in 16:9, so at least better than Eurosport), has two commentary tracks for each channel. German and original (BBC) commentary. And I'd like to know the names of the commentators I am listening to.
Last year, the 2nd audio track was commentary free.

tiptop
06-24-2008, 02:07 PM
Well done Tommy!

btw I think it was Peter Fleming.

scoobs
06-24-2008, 02:13 PM
It was Peter Fleming, yes.

Yappa
06-24-2008, 02:19 PM
Yep, Chris Bailey and Peter Fleming. I just noticed that they introduced themselves at the beginning.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 02:21 PM
Always good to see cheaters lose.

His name was cleared. And even then he took it further to clear his name. Let's not go rubbishing players for things they were wrongly accused of.

Bazooka
06-24-2008, 02:25 PM
Cañas is done, IMO. Good to see Haas coming back, I hope he makes a great run this year.

groundstroke
06-24-2008, 02:31 PM
Always good to see cheaters lose.
Canas was wrongly accused. He didn't cheat.

Jaap
06-24-2008, 02:32 PM
Canas is a drug cheat and a mug pusher who should be kicked out of the atp.

Hope this helps.

ReturnWinner
06-24-2008, 02:33 PM
Cañas got injured in the game where Haas broke in the second set, so Tommy got pretty lucky.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 02:34 PM
Canas is a drug cheat and a mug pusher who should be kicked out of the atp.

Hope this helps.

His name was cleared. So no, he isn't a cheat.

Jaap
06-24-2008, 02:35 PM
His name was cleared. So no, he isn't a cheat.

Yeah, of course. :rolleyes:

dam0dred
06-24-2008, 02:36 PM
What's worse, being a cheater or being too stupid to read the label of a medication you are given? Either way he's a clown and I'm glad he lost.

ReturnWinner
06-24-2008, 02:37 PM
Yeah, of course. :rolleyes:

before posting crap as you usually do ,you have to read the case.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 02:46 PM
Yeah, of course. :rolleyes:

Sarcasm doesn't change the fact that his name was cleared (on two sepearate occasions, I believe). Your ignorance of the facts doesn't change a thing. Canas isn't a cheat.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 02:49 PM
What's worse, being a cheater or being too stupid to read the label of a medication you are given? Either way he's a clown and I'm glad he lost.

It's a silly mistake to make. Still, forgetting to check the label is a mistake many athletes have made. Cheating is far worse and shows a lack of integrity. He already got punished for something he didn't do. It's not exactly right to perpetuate the ATP's mistake.

groundstroke
06-24-2008, 02:49 PM
What's worse, being a cheater or being too stupid to read the label of a medication you are given? Either way he's a clown and I'm glad he lost.
What's better, being cleared once off cheating or being cleared twice? Canas has been cleared twice, please, shut the fuck up.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 02:55 PM
What's better, being cleared once off cheating or being cleared twice? Canas has been cleared twice, please, shut the fuck up.

I don't know whether he has or not, but Federer should apologise. Even after his name was cleared the first time, Federer still said that Canas shouldn't be on the tour. I remember it being mentioned around the time of his two defeats to Canas. He was way out of line.

Jaap
06-24-2008, 02:55 PM
Canas is a cheat.

The end.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 02:58 PM
Canas is a cheat.

The end.

Sad. Can't admit when you're wrong. It's quite pathetic actually.

groundstroke
06-24-2008, 03:01 PM
I don't know whether he has or not, but Federer should apologise. Even after his name was cleared the first time, Federer still said that Canas shouldn't be on the tour. I remember it being mentioned around the time of his two defeats to Canas. He was way out of line.
Who cares what Federer thinks? Even if he said it, it may have been because he lost to him twice very quickly.
Did Federer say that when he beat him 6-0 6-3 (I think) later on the year in 2007? No, he didn't.

Jaap
06-24-2008, 03:02 PM
Canas should be banned from the tour just for being a mug pusher.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 03:09 PM
Who cares what Federer thinks? Even if he said it, it may have been because he lost to him twice very quickly.
Did Federer say that when he beat him 6-0 6-3 (I think) later on the year in 2007? No, he didn't.

That's the point I'm making. He beats him and all is fine. He loses to him and Canas should be banned. Fed tends to be a sore loser.

dam0dred
06-24-2008, 03:40 PM
He should be banned.

Any 12 year old with an allergy knows how to carefully read the ingredients of something before they eat it. So should a professional athlete. Whether he took them on purpose or not, he is responsible for what is in his body. Illegal substances were found, end of discussion.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 03:43 PM
He should be banned.

Any 12 year old with an allergy knows how to carefully read the ingredients of something before they eat it. So should a professional athlete. Whether he took them on purpose or not, he is responsible for what is in his body. Illegal substances were found, end of discussion.

Great argument. He forgot to check the label, so his career should be destroyed.

There are some real geniuses on this site. Seriously, you make leng jai look clever.

dam0dred
06-24-2008, 03:47 PM
An athlete's body is their entire world, their entire career. It's not a casual thing to check a label and if you think that simply not bothering to read a label is a justifiable excuse for having tested positive for illegal substinces, you're even dumber than I suspected. I'm sure every crooked athlete would love to have you in charge of doping rules

groundstroke
06-24-2008, 04:11 PM
But he was cleared, twice! Two times, he didn't get lucky with one clearance.

Jaap
06-24-2008, 04:12 PM
Like OJ was cleared.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 04:16 PM
Like OJ was cleared.

Yeah, it's the same thing.

dam0dred
06-24-2008, 04:17 PM
But he was cleared, twice! Two times, he didn't get lucky with one clearance.

So by your logic, if he was found taking banned substances a third time and snuck through it again claiming "ignorance" he would be even more innocent!!!!

Brilliant.

HoistDaColors
06-24-2008, 04:49 PM
let's go tommy! time to take out the other tommy.

ChinoRios4Ever
06-24-2008, 06:30 PM
well done Haas beat Boredo now :fiery:

GlennMirnyi
06-24-2008, 08:18 PM
Canas is a cheat.

The end.

Agree 100%.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 08:22 PM
Agree 100%.

He was cleared twice. End of discussion.

GlennMirnyi
06-24-2008, 08:26 PM
He was cleared twice. End of discussion.

Once a cheat, always a cheat.

He was cleared because he started moving up the rankings and the ATP clears all the top players. No other reason.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 08:29 PM
Once a cheat, always a cheat.

He was cleared because he started moving up the rankings and the ATP clears all the top players. No other reason.

And your evidence for that is what?

groundstroke
06-24-2008, 08:30 PM
Once a cheat, always a cheat.

He was cleared because he started moving up the rankings and the ATP clears all the top players. No other reason.
Oh yeah. :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: We seem to have another idiot here.

GlennMirnyi
06-24-2008, 08:34 PM
And your evidence for that is what?

He tested positive. What else do you want?

Oh yeah. :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: We seem to have another idiot here.

You're the first one, I assume?

Clydey
06-24-2008, 08:36 PM
He tested positive. What else do you want?



Yes, because he misread a label. That's why he was cleared. You have a source who says otherwise?

groundstroke
06-24-2008, 08:39 PM
He tested positive. What else do you want?



You're the first one, I assume?
He was cleared twice, what more do you want? Also, he is a top player so the ATP wouldn't lick his ass and let him get away with it.

zethand
06-24-2008, 08:40 PM
Canas is a cheat.

The end.

Im with you. I do not believe in the report.
Meanwhile I am happy he lost. I thought Haas was retired.

GlennMirnyi
06-24-2008, 08:41 PM
Yes, because he misread a label. That's why he was cleared. You have a source who says otherwise?

Big deal if he misread it or not. He tested positive and that's what's important.

He was cleared twice, what more do you want? Also, he is a top player so the ATP wouldn't lick his ass and let him get away with it.

A dopefeed in the top of the rankings would be an awful publicity for the ATP. Why do you think *** hasn't been caught yet?

zethand
06-24-2008, 08:43 PM
You're the first one, I assume?

You are my idol! :D

Clydey
06-24-2008, 08:43 PM
Big deal if he misread it or not. He tested positive and that's what's important.


Taking a supplement that has a tiny amount of a banned substance does not make one a cheat. It makes them careless.

GlennMirnyi
06-24-2008, 08:45 PM
Taking a supplement that has a tiny amount of a banned substance does not make one a cheat. It makes them careless.

A banned substance is banned for a reason.

If you accidently run over someone you go to jail doesn't matter if that was your intention or not.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 08:47 PM
A banned substance is banned for a reason.

If you accidently run over someone you go to jail doesn't matter if that was your intention or not.

Poor analogy. He served a ban for his mistake. That is punishment enough. He's career doesn't deserve to be ended.

It is not comparable to running someone over by mistake, as it doesn't carry the same punishment. 9 months is long enough for a careless error.

Jaap
06-24-2008, 08:48 PM
Taking a supplement that has a tiny amount of a banned substance does not make one a cheat. It makes them careless.

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dam0dred
06-24-2008, 08:58 PM
A banned substance is banned for a reason.

If you accidently run over someone you go to jail doesn't matter if that was your intention or not.

Exactly. Could you imagine if all those American track and field athletes who got caught doping just said "well, hey it's not my fault, someone gave me these pills and I didn't read the label... I'm innocent." Their regulatory body would laugh in their face. If the ATP had any balls and a doping policy that was at all coherent Canas would be history.

He's a cheater, whether by intent or stupidity, it makes no difference.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 09:00 PM
Exactly. Could you imagine if all those American track and field athletes who got caught doping just said "well, hey it's not my fault, someone gave me these pills and I didn't read the label... I'm innocent." Their regulatory body would laugh in their face. If the ATP had any balls and a doping policy that was at all coherent Canas would be history.

He's a cheater, whether by intent or stupidity, it makes no difference.

Yes, it does. Cheating is a conscious act. You don't accidentally cheat. He got punished for being careless.

GlennMirnyi
06-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Poor analogy. He served a ban for his mistake. That is punishment enough. He's career doesn't deserve to be ended.

It is not comparable to running someone over by mistake, as it doesn't carry the same punishment. 9 months is long enough for a careless error.

The punishment isn't in discussion. The fact he's a cheater is, though.

That, though, is 100% sure.

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Tommy fan
06-24-2008, 09:07 PM
:woohoo:
C'mon Tommy! Now show Robredo who's the #1 Tommy!

Neely
06-24-2008, 09:08 PM
If you accidently run over someone you go to jail doesn't matter if that was your intention or not.
But intention matters if you're going for 6 months or 20 years into jail because everything ranging from from grievous bodily harm resulting in death to murder would be possible. Canas certainly got a lighter punishment for a good reason, and there should be difference made to somebody who intentionally takes it to gain an advantage.

Clydey
06-24-2008, 09:08 PM
The punishment isn't in discussion. The fact he's a cheater is, though.

That, though, is 100% sure.



:haha: :haha: :haha:

Cheating is a conscious act. Look up the definition. You're not a cheat if you're not conscious of it. You're careless. You cannot be a cheat unless you're consciously breaking the rules.

GlennMirnyi
06-24-2008, 09:14 PM
But intention matters if you're going for 6 months or 20 years into jail because everything ranging from from grievous bodily harm resulting in death to murder would be possible.

Again, read my last post. You're gonna be punished, no matter what.

Cheating is a conscious act. Look up the definition. You're not a cheat if you're not conscious of it. You're careless. You cannot be a cheat unless you're consciously breaking the rules.

Yeah, I heard Ben Johnson said after he was caught the following:

"I was toying around with this syringe and it ended up falling on my arm. When I went to take it off, I don't know how I pressed the plunger the whole way. I'm so careless this also happened other 30 times. I should stop toying round with syringes, mr. IOC inquirer."

HeretiC
06-24-2008, 09:23 PM
Good win for Haas, close match and could have been different outcome without that calf injury.

Jogy
06-26-2008, 11:52 AM
glad that Haas retired and could benefit from Canas injury (fake? becaus he know Haas' should was warming up with match getting longer?)


As people say in this thread, Canas does not deserve anything anymore
he got caught with the cheating substance, and maybe the only time I will agree with GlennMirnyi on something with tennis


important win for Haas not to loose that
but I hope he can make more wins

Wyna
06-26-2008, 12:16 PM
:woohoo:
C'mon Tommy! Now show Robredo who's the #1 Tommy!

That made me laugh, it's a sweet comment. :)

martine2
06-26-2008, 02:06 PM
Once a cheat, always a cheat.

He was cleared because he started moving up the rankings and the ATP clears all the top players. No other reason.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :zzz: :zzz:

Cheating is a conscious act. Look up the definition. You're not a cheat if you're not conscious of it. You're careless. You cannot be a cheat unless you're consciously breaking the rules.

Just ignore them and leave them to their trolling. They've got nothing better to do ;)

ReturnWinner
06-28-2008, 01:54 AM
glad that Haas retired and could benefit from Canas injury (fake? becaus he know Haas' should was warming up with match getting longer?)




Cañas was playing really well ,dominating the match until that injury happened and from then he lost eight games in a row, not fake at all stupid mofo :retard: