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Bud Collins Wimbledon 2008 prediction

lalit
06-23-2008, 01:12 AM
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Spain's Rafael Nadal came close to winning the Wimbledon men's singles title last year. This year Nadal will accomplish that feat, predicts Bud Collins of NBCSports.com.

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OPINION
By Bud Collins
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Bud Collins
One year ago as the world’s best tennis players came to London for yet another edition of The Lawn Tennis Championships (known as Wimbledon to the headline writers), the Lord of the Swings, Roger Federer, was virtually conceded a fifth straight men’s singles title.

Federer handled his regal duties handsomely in the throne room, Centre Court. However, it wasn't as one-sided a title won as was predicted, and it wasn’t a title as clearly Federer’s as the previous four had been. Rafael Nadal, the Muscle Man of Mallorca, had followed Federer from Paris and had he cashed a couple of break points in the fifth set of last year’s final the Wimbledon champion might well have been Nadal and not Federer.

Two years ago Federer showed up at Wimbledon in a royal blazer. Last year he added long trousers for the warmup. Nobody thought Federer was putting on the dog. The man has style. He was appreciated and accepted as the guy who should wear the oldest of tennis crowns. But no matter what Federer’s London arrival attire is this year, the times they are a-changin' as Bob Dylan used to warble.
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Perhaps the first sign of such change came in January at the Australian Open when Novak Djokovic ended Federer's bid for a third straight title Down Under. The fast-rising Serb star dismissed Federer in straight sets in the semifinals and followed that win with a four-set triumph over France’s Jo-Wilfried Tsonga to capture his first major. The Wimbledon draw — should it play to form — will match Federer and Djokovic in the semifinals.

Perhaps the next sign of such change will be Federer failing to extend his reign as the class on Wimbledon’s grass — a reign that began in 2003 at the expense of Aussie Mark Philippoussis and continued with a pair of title wins over Andy Roddick (2004 and 2005) and Nadal (the last two years).

Despite Federer’s No. 1 ranking and 59 consecutive match wins on grass and regardless of how pleased — he says — he is with the way he's playing, I feel he's trying to convince himself more than others. But I'm not convinced he's fully recovered physically from his end-of-2007 health problems. He clearly isn't the player he was in 2006 and 2007, grabbing three majors each year (the Australian Open, Wimbledon and the U.S. Open) as well as being a finalist at the French Open both those years.

The French Open final earlier this month was an embarrassing morale-jolter for Federer — a bagel for him in the final set and all of four games won over three sets as Nadal rocked and rolled over the Swiss in under two hours. So if you haven’t guessed it by now, Nadal is my pick to end Federer’s run on royalty’s most famous lawns.

I'm impressed at how much Nadal keeps improving while Federer isn't showing progress in his play. For the record, I picked Nadal last year to rule Wimbledon and he came oh-so-close: 7-6 (9-7), 4-6, 7-6 (7-3), 2-6, 6-2. How could this abundantly talented young Spaniard solve grass so quickly and do so with those clay-court grips? Obviously the courts and balls are slower. We saw that in 2002 when the Australian Lleyton Hewitt won the Wimbledon title without playing a single serve-and-volley point.


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Wherever Nadal plays, his blizzard of maddening spin accompanies him and that’s bad news for his opponents. He knows what's going on out there on the greensward although he's not going to do as much volleying as did the last Spaniard to conquer Centre Court — Manolo Santana in 1966. Expect Nadal to be tested, though, as he was last year with Robert Kendrick, Robin Soderling and Mikhail Youzhny prior to the final. Seven matches without any significant hurdles to overcome? That’s virtually unheard of at Wimbledon or any other major.

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Sometimes it looks as though we're back in the 1970s with the Bermuda Triangle days of Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe and Jimmy Connors shutting out everybody else. Now it's Federer, Nadal and Djokovic doing the same.

Does anybody else have a realistic chance at winning Wimbledon? What about Tsonga? Well, he’s too often hurt but he sure dismembered Nadal on a fast court at Melbourne.
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Andy Roddick might catch fire but his right shoulder is questionable and if he makes the semifinals and it’s Nadal who’s across the net from him, does the American win that encounter? Nadal has won three of their five career clashes, including the only one they have waged on grass – that being at Queen’s Club this summer.

Also fragile, Andy Murray understands grass and will have Britain behind him — sometimes no fun as Tim Henman found to be the case throughout his career.

The tall Croat Mario Ancic — the last to beat Federer at Wimbledon (in the first round in 2002) — might prove of good value.
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American James Blake has displayed little affinity for grass and has a possible fourth-round tilt against Roddick. Like Blake the lawns are not to the liking of Nikolay Davydenko, who could meet up with Roddick in the semifinals.

Richard Gasquet, down two sets and a break, revived to beat Roddick last year at Wimbledon and is, according to Federer, "one of the best to watch." Dangerous is David Nalbandian, a Federer tormentor, and finalist to Hewitt in 2002.

Fun to watch in their mad dashes are Nico Mahut, Radek Stepanek and Gael Monfils, he who gave Federer so much trouble in this year’s French Open semifinals.

A good bet is that curious things will happen during this Wimbledon fortnight because so few know how to conduct themselves on this mysterious stuff called grass.

The crowds will be behind Federer, an admirable champion, in the hope they'll see him catch up with a 19th-century competitor named Willie Renshaw, who won six straight Wimbledon titles from 1881-1886. The draw presents the possible challenge that Federer will have to beat both Djokovic and Nadal to keep his throne. Renshaw — or at least his spirit — will be rooting against King Roger.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25283948/site/21683474/

CyBorg
06-23-2008, 01:19 AM
Too bad for Nadal. Things were looking quite bright until this piano fell on his head.

Johnny Groove
06-23-2008, 01:20 AM
Too bad for Nadal. Things were looking quite bright until this piano fell on his head.

I was thinking the same.

luie
06-23-2008, 01:21 AM
Well so much for nadal lifting the trophy.

Tnn74
06-23-2008, 01:29 AM
Well he also predicted Nadal would win the FO... :shrug:
besides, he may change his predictions a few times throughout the tournament...

finishingmove
06-23-2008, 01:41 AM
dont forget its 2008 , and bud collins just might be right...

habibko
06-23-2008, 01:57 AM
poor Nadal had a good chance before being jinxed for the 2nd consecutive year :lol:

The Freak
06-23-2008, 02:21 AM
Unlucky one Rafa

El Legenda
06-23-2008, 02:23 AM
unexpected, always in doubt

peterparker
06-23-2008, 02:25 AM
Poor bud, I like his writing style, but he tries too hard and comes off a little crazy on TV.

BigJohn
06-23-2008, 02:33 AM
I thought he'd been fired... Darn.

Why is he still around anyway? Does he appeal to a major demographic group that bring lots of publicity revenues?

jwoodrx
06-23-2008, 02:43 AM
Thank you, Bud, for guaranteeing another Fed victory!:yeah:

Fedex
06-23-2008, 02:46 AM
Too bad for Nadal. Things were looking quite bright until this piano fell on his head.

:haha: :haha: :rolls:

Do I still have time to bet all of my money on Federer? This is ultimate kiss of death for Rafa.

RagingLamb
06-23-2008, 02:49 AM
Collins picked him for the French too, did he not? '08 may be overriding the collins curse.

Fedex
06-23-2008, 02:51 AM
poor Nadal had a good chance before being jinxed for the 2nd consecutive year :lol:

Third consecutive year. I am pretty sure Bud picked Nadal to beat Federer in 2006 as well.

Caerula Sanguis
06-23-2008, 03:08 AM
Yes Bud got FO 08 right. But even the broken clock is right twice a day.

Metis
06-23-2008, 03:29 AM
Bud got both AO and RG 2008 right. He's on a roll! :D

It's Parallel Universe 2008 baby :rocker2:

dam0dred
06-23-2008, 03:56 AM
Perhaps his general craziness and stupidity is combining with his senility and causing him to actually make sense in some strange way.

Tnn74
06-23-2008, 11:05 AM
Bud got both AO and RG 2008 right. He's on a roll! :D

It's Parallel Universe 2008 baby :rocker2:

Preach on Metis! :rocker2:

anon57
06-23-2008, 11:10 AM
Bud got both AO and RG 2008 right. He's on a roll! :D

It's Parallel Universe 2008 baby :rocker2::speakles: Bud was actually right twice already this year, poor Federer I guess with the Parallel Universe 2008 he's doomed now:sad:

Richard_from_Cal
06-23-2008, 07:15 PM
Bud, as well as vv--this article--vv seem to be focussed on Mr. Nadal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/sports/tennis/22nadal.html?hp

I don't believe it.

Tnn74
06-24-2008, 09:12 AM
Bud, as well as vv--this article--vv seem to be focussed on Mr. Nadal.

I don't believe it.

Believe It. :angel:

Sunset of Age
06-24-2008, 09:23 AM
Bud, as well as vv--this article--vv seem to be focussed on Mr. Nadal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/sports/tennis/22nadal.html?hp

I don't believe it.

How nice of them all to jinx Raf! :mad:
Too bad I don't believe in jinxing either. :p

theprodigy
06-24-2008, 02:07 PM
Bud is on a winning streak, unfortunately.

cobalt60
06-24-2008, 02:12 PM
Bud is on a winning streak, unfortunately.

Just like Nadal :rocker2:
Thanks you Metis for bringing up the theory:sobbing: Will I ever live it down,no? :p

BlueSwan
06-24-2008, 02:28 PM
The ONLY Bud Collins prediction that counts is the pre-final prediction. Infact, he has gotten his pre-tournament prediction right a number of times, it's the pre-final prediction that he always f**ks up.

The Freak
07-05-2008, 04:34 AM
Bump

federernadalfan
07-05-2008, 04:39 AM
Perhaps his general craziness and stupidity is combining with his senility and causing him to actually make sense in some strange way.

:spit:

twisturhead
07-05-2008, 05:13 AM
bad news for rafa

Warrior
07-05-2008, 12:50 PM
Borg picked Fed. His jinx is definately stronger than Bud's.

star
07-05-2008, 02:09 PM
Bad Bud to jinx both Nadal and Djokovic. :(

star
07-05-2008, 02:09 PM
Borg picked Fed. His jinx is definately stronger than Bud's.

Nobody's jinx is worse than Bud's. :sad:

Warrior
07-05-2008, 03:07 PM
He was right about Venus.

star
07-05-2008, 04:15 PM
He was right about Venus.

Even more evidence that Federer will win. Bud's used up whatever predictive power he had. :p

peterparker
07-05-2008, 04:27 PM
"Nobody thought Federer was putting on the dog."

huh? what does this expression mean?

federernadalfan
07-05-2008, 04:31 PM
It seems that MTF likes to talk about jinxing, but the truth of the matter is, IMO I think jinxing only works sometimes if the person being jinxed hears the jinx. There's a chance that if they hear it, it might affect them mentally. So, as long as the players themselves did not hear the prediction, they are not going to be jinxed. We can talk about jinxing all we want in MTF, but it's most likely not relevant.

Gnomey
07-05-2008, 04:36 PM
"Nobody thought Federer was putting on the dog."

huh? what does this expression mean?

It means to 'show off', I think.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-put1.htm

star
07-05-2008, 04:42 PM
It seems that MTF likes to talk about jinxing, but the truth of the matter is, IMO I think jinxing only works sometimes if the person being jinxed hears the jinx. There's a chance that if they hear it, it might affect them mentally. So, as long as the players themselves did not hear the prediction, they are not going to be jinxed. We can talk about jinxing all we want in MTF, but it's most likely not relevant.

Naturally, jinxing doesn't work. I mean, unless you also think spells and witchcraft works. I always take it that people who talk about jinxing are jokng and having fun. :)

peterparker
07-05-2008, 04:51 PM
It means to 'show off', I think.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-put1.htm

interesting, thanks.

Haute
07-05-2008, 05:13 PM
It means to 'show off', I think.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-put1.htm

Oh those British, why can't they just stick with words like ostentatious? Or is that too difficult to say with a British accent? :scratch: I must try this...

star
07-05-2008, 05:22 PM
Oh those British, why can't they just stick with words like ostentatious? Or is that too difficult to say with a British accent? :scratch: I must try this...

It's an American expression. Maybe a little old fashioned these days. I'm surprised Peter Parker didn't recognize it. I didn't think it had gone completely out of the modern slang vocabulary.

Firstly, to put on the dog (or to put on dog, in the form I learnt it) is first recorded only in 1871, in a book by L H Bagg called Four Years at Yale: “Dog, style, splurge. To put on dog, is to make a flashy display, to cut a swell”, and is certainly a US expression. So there’s really no chance at all of an English medieval origin. It has been suggested that it developed out of the rise in popularity of ladies’ lap dogs in the period after the American Civil War. Such animals were presumably pampered and beribboned, and this might have suggested that to put on the dog was to show off.

Mr. Magassi
07-05-2008, 05:33 PM
Spud Collins is such a nuisance...

CyBorg
07-05-2008, 05:40 PM
Borg picked Fed. His jinx is definately stronger than Bud's.

Based on what? The diarrhea in your brain?

T2KN
07-05-2008, 05:57 PM
I get the feeling these pundits don't have more of an idea of who's going to win than us, or any 'outsider' for that matter.

Del_Toro
07-05-2008, 07:28 PM
After Bud Collins prediction there is no doubt that Roger will win tomorrow.

Thanx for jinxing Rafa, Bud! :rocker2:

Bernard Black
07-05-2008, 07:41 PM
Bandwagoning at its best.

People quickly forget Nadal played a sensational final last year and Federer still came out on top. Obviously this means nothing now that Federer is "trying to convince himself more than others" of his form. What a load of bullshit.

oz_boz
07-06-2008, 12:55 PM
dont forget its 2008 , and bud collins just might be right...

:yeah: Icing on the cake of 2008 will be a correct prediction from Mr. Collins, and actually I am with him on this one :lol:

Kolya
07-06-2008, 01:09 PM
Thanks Bud!