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Threats to the top 3

Xavier7
06-20-2008, 12:36 PM
Which players do you think could be a threat to Federer, Djokovic and Nadal, looking at the draw, and potentially knock any of them out before the semis.
I think-

NADAL:
Gulbis - Tough 2R which may cause him some problems, although it is probably too soon for him on grass.
Youzhny - Probably got to face him 4R which is gonna be tough. He went 2 sets to love down against him last year before Youzhny got injured.
Murray or Gasquet - Either of these could face him in the QF and could be a threat if they hit good form.
Overall Youzhny is the biggest threat.

DJOKOVIC:
Easy draw til 4R.
Wawrinka is in great form so could be tough to beat in 4R.
In QF either Nalbandian or Baghdatis could be a threat if they hit decent form.

FEDERER:
Soderling - tough 2R
Monfils - tough 3R
Gonzalez - tough 4R
Berdych, Verdasco, Ancic or Ferrer in QF
Can't really see Fed losing before the semis.

scarecrows
06-20-2008, 12:38 PM
Wawrinka is in great form so could be tough to beat in 4R.
.

he is pretty shit on grass

marcRD
06-20-2008, 12:48 PM
Djokovic has no threat, maybe Karlovic if he gets to qf.

Stepanek could also be a threat against Nadal.

jazar
06-20-2008, 12:49 PM
i would say the biggest threat is injury

Federer=God
06-20-2008, 12:51 PM
Djokovic will easily get through to the quarters, I agree that Nalbandian or Baghdatis on their day are both a threat.

Federer doesn't have a bad draw, although its not a complete cakewalk. Monfils in the 3R isn't nice, but thats actually a pretty nice draw to the semis. Hewitt is another potential 4R opponent, but Federer should dispatch of him.

Xavier7
06-20-2008, 12:53 PM
he is pretty shit on grass

You're probably right.
I just though maybe this year he might be able to find some form on grass as it has certainly his best year so far
Djoko seems to keep getting easy draws in slams recently.

renatoal
06-20-2008, 12:55 PM
Common Safin we never know... for sure he can be a threat to Djoker ... they meet only once.. in Ausopen 05 .. 6-0 6-2 6-1 .. ok long time ago, but still a danger opponent for the djoker

Xavier7
06-20-2008, 01:04 PM
Common Safin we never know... for sure he can be a threat to Djoker ... they meet only once.. in Ausopen 05 .. 6-0 6-2 6-1 .. ok long time ago, but still a danger opponent for the djoker

Sorry man but I think Safin is no threat whatsoever.
The real question is whether he can beat Fognini.
He struggled to beat James Ward at Queens, and his results in the 12months have been pretty dire.

BlueSwan
06-20-2008, 01:11 PM
Let's face it: They're all gonna make the semis as usual.

Federer=God
06-20-2008, 01:14 PM
Federer:

with h2h records

1R:
- Hrbaty (0-2). Haven't played since 04 though and this is grass.

2R:
- Soderling (6-0). Shouldn't be too problematic.

3R:
- Monfils (4-0). Fed got him on clay so grass shouldn't be a problem.

4R:
- Hewitt (13-7). Fed has won last 11.
- Gonzales (11-1). Don't see any threat.

QF:
Berdych (6-1). Fed has won last 6.
Kohlschreiber (2-0). Beat him at Halle.
Ancic (5-1). His last loss on grass was to Ancic. That was in 1R, 2002.
Ferrer (8-0). Dropped 1 set.

SF:
Djokovic (6-2). Obvious threat.
Baghdatis (6-0) No problem.
Nalbandian (9-8) Possible threat.

Clay Death
06-20-2008, 01:16 PM
Djokovic has no threat, maybe Karlovic if he gets to qf.

Stepanek could also be a threat against Nadal.


Stepanek is not 100% but even if he was, he doesnt have the goods to deal with the Clay Monster.

Clay Monster has a slightly tricky encounter with Gulbis who has a big time serve but i dont see him taking down the 4 time French Open champion in a best of 5 sets match. give Gulbis a set at least before the Clay Monster settles down and destroys him.

Fed has a free ride to the semis. i dont see him losing a single set until the semis.

KitinovRules
06-20-2008, 01:27 PM
DJOKOVIC:

Wawrinka is in great form so could be tough to beat in 4R.

Wawrinka hasn't played a match on grass this year.

Berrer will surprise the Faker.

JimmyV
06-20-2008, 01:58 PM
Berrer will rain down a barrage of pinpoint overheads to score the upset of the tournament.

groundstroke
06-20-2008, 02:06 PM
Federer hasn't got an easy draw but he should be able to get to the SF's.. Who has to play Ivo Karlovic?

habibko
06-20-2008, 02:13 PM
I'm glad the draw isn't a walkover for Fed, I want him to stay sharp and get ready for hard Semis and Finals, only one who could take it from Fed is Nadal and if it happened it's due to mental reasons not because Nadal would outplay Fed on grass.

UEs could be the decider of the final.

Okonsky
06-20-2008, 02:22 PM
To tell the truth Federer has toughest draw.

RogerFan82
06-20-2008, 02:25 PM
Fed should be ok!!! Go Rog!!!!!!!

ZakMcCrack
06-20-2008, 02:54 PM
Wawrinka probably won't reach R4, anyway...but by saying so I don't think he is that "shit on grass" (whereas I'm either high ond grass OR shit...), because he still has his good serve. It's gonna be kind of a grab bag. To his credit he took out big Ivo in 2006 :-)

Branimir
06-20-2008, 03:48 PM
Common Safin we never know... for sure he can be a threat to Djoker ... they meet only once.. in Ausopen 05 .. 6-0 6-2 6-1 .. ok long time ago, but still a danger opponent for the djoker

I think the same score is very likely to happen again. Just opposite.

Branimir
06-20-2008, 03:50 PM
To tell the truth Federer has toughest draw.

I think Nadal has toughest draw.

BIGMARAT
06-20-2008, 04:15 PM
Nadal will lose to Gulbis, no?

Vanjezi
06-20-2008, 04:24 PM
Cant wait to see Nadal - Gulbis :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap:

Clay Death
06-20-2008, 04:30 PM
I think Nadal has toughest draw.


affirmative. most definitely. and it will prepare him better for the final.

MacTheKnife
06-20-2008, 04:47 PM
Common Safin we never know... for sure he can be a threat to Djoker ... they meet only once.. in Ausopen 05 .. 6-0 6-2 6-1 .. ok long time ago, but still a danger opponent for the djoker

Safin might bore him to death. I love Marat, but sorry, he's seen his better days. Maybe he and his sister could team up and be a threat..
Na....

TankingTheSet
06-20-2008, 05:34 PM
Berrer will rain down a barrage of pinpoint overheads to score the upset of the tournament.

I think the chances of Berrer hitting an overhead into Djoko's eye forcing him to retire is a lot greater than Berrer winning in any other way.

FedFan_2007
06-20-2008, 05:42 PM
Fed will be super-battle tested for the final this time around, playing Djokovic in the semis. He needs it.

Iván
06-20-2008, 05:43 PM
59 consecutive wins on grass and counting
* 4 consecutive Laureus World Sports Awards
* 5 straight Wimbledon titles + 4 straight US Open titles
* 3 Australian Open titles + 3 consecutive French Open Finals
* 12 Grand Slam Titles + 4 Masters Cup titles
* 14 ATP Masters Series
* 3 "Clayless" Calender Grand Slams
* 229 consecutive weeks world #1 and counting
* great personality, elegance and humility
* brilliant, smart and magical tennis

The Greatest Sportsman of All Time (the GSOAT)
Roger Federer

This makes you realise what a legend this man is

Poor guy, getting some slack for losing a few matches this year to inspired opponents.

FedFan_2007
06-20-2008, 05:43 PM
affirmative. most definitely. and it will prepare him better for the final.

As usual Clay Death, you are a moron. Djokovic is on Fed's side of the draw. Thus, Federer has the tougher draw.

habibko
06-20-2008, 06:18 PM
This makes you realise what a legend this man is

Poor guy, getting some slack for losing a few matches this year to inspired opponents.

tell me about it :rolleyes:

Merton
06-20-2008, 07:20 PM
No realistic threat for Federer, Djokovic has a bye to the quarterfinals and Nadal has very dangerous matches against Gulbis and then if he survives that, Stepanek/Youzhny in R16.

Okonsky
06-20-2008, 07:46 PM
No realistic threat for Federer, Djokovic has a bye to the quarterfinals and Nadal has very dangerous matches against Gulbis and then if he survives that, Stepanek/Youzhny in R16.

Maybe you're right about Nadal but I really couldn't see/imagine anyone from his side of draw who can take a single set. I mean at this very moment when he's almost unbeatable.

Merton
06-20-2008, 07:56 PM
Maybe you're right about Nadal but I really couldn't see/imagine anyone from his side of draw who can take a single set. I mean at this very moment when he's almost unbeatable.

Nadal is quite vulnerable early on, especially facing a player with huge ground weapons such as Gulbis. I remember last year's match against Soderling, Nadal played vewry well in the first 2 sets but Soderling raised his level at the 3rd and should have won it more comfortably than facing match point in the tiebreak. Anyway, there is always the chance that Gulbis sprays balls all over the Atlantic and goes down lamely but I think it will be a close match. Provided of course that Gulbis survives Isner, which he should.

groundstroke
06-20-2008, 08:12 PM
Match of the tournament? Could be Federer vs Djokovic.
If Federer beats him something like 6-1 6-3 6-2, that would be legendary.

Federer=God
06-22-2008, 07:12 AM
I like Federer's draw, my only concern would be a prolonged semi-final against Djokovic tiring him out. I am confident he can make it to the final.

Knightmace
06-22-2008, 09:14 AM
Federer:

with h2h records

1R:
- Hrbaty (0-2). Haven't played since 04 though and this is grass.

2R:
- Soderling (6-0). Shouldn't be too problematic.

3R:
- Monfils (4-0). Fed got him on clay so grass shouldn't be a problem.

4R:
- Hewitt (13-7). Fed has won last 11.
- Gonzales (11-1). Don't see any threat.

QF:
Berdych (6-1). Fed has won last 6.
Kohlschreiber (2-0). Beat him at Halle.
Ancic (5-1). His last loss on grass was to Ancic. That was in 1R, 2002.
Ferrer (8-0). Dropped 1 set.

SF:
Djokovic (6-2). Obvious threat.
Baghdatis (6-0) No problem.
Nalbandian (9-8) Possible threat.
Nice post

Tnn74
06-22-2008, 09:28 AM
Nadal will lose to Gulbis, no?

NO.

Okonsky
06-22-2008, 11:03 AM
Match of the tournament? Could be Federer vs Djokovic.
If Federer beats him something like 6-1 6-3 6-2, that would be legendary.

If Novak beats Fed that would be legendary. Or not? Maybe mono suddenly apears. Doors are open.

MacTheKnife
06-22-2008, 01:13 PM
No realistic threat for Federer, Djokovic has a bye to the quarterfinals and Nadal has very dangerous matches against Gulbis and then if he survives that, Stepanek/Youzhny in R16.

Where by the way Djok will probably face Karolvic. Who I believe is a bigger threat than most seem to think. There are a lot of people on MTF that seen to forget it took Nadal 3 tiebreakers to knock this guy out at Queens. I see that a lot of people already have Rafa penciled in as winning this tournament. If I recall, it not for a couple of points here or there, Ivo could have knocked him out in straights.
He sure gave Nadal a better match than Djok.
Is he a threat to take out Djok, you bet he is. Can he beat Djok and Fed to get to Nadal, doubt it seriously.

Okonsky
06-22-2008, 01:43 PM
Where by the way Djok will probably face Karolvic. Who I believe is a bigger threat than most seem to think.

My thoughts exactly. I can't say it's tough draw but Karlovic might be huge threat.

rafa_maniac
06-22-2008, 02:16 PM
I think Federer and Nadal both have "tricky", but not necessarily "tough" first week draws. I can see a few players here and there snatching a set off either, but there's noone I can honestly see beating either. Gulbis is too much of a newcomer, Youzhny is out of form and Stepanek can't hit Nadal off the court and may well be injured. I expect all three to march through to the quarters easily, with Djoko possibly having a tough match again either Nalby or Karlovic and Andy Murray could provide a few problems for Rafa if he plays like he did in Oz Open 07, only with a home town crowd behind him this time. Ultimately, I'll be incredibly surprised if Fed and Rafa aren't the last two standing at the end of the two weeks, from there it's a coin toss.

MaryX
06-22-2008, 02:27 PM
I can't say it's tough draw but Karlovic might be huge threat.


He must get to the QF first .If he does that, he will be tough opponent, but very hard to imagine him taking all 3 sets.I'd be more worried about Novak's fitness after that match.The key is how to make that hypothetical match easiest possible.But, than, not that Karlovic can't lose before that.Happened many times.

GuiroNl
06-22-2008, 03:46 PM
Karlovic? Ivo Karlovic :scratch:? QF in a slam?

:spit: Nice one

Okonsky
06-22-2008, 03:57 PM
But, than, not that Karlovic can't lose before that.Happened many times.

:smooch:

MaryX
06-22-2008, 04:05 PM
:smooch:

:kiss:

ryan23
06-22-2008, 04:07 PM
Let's face it: They're all gonna make the semis as usual.

Exactly right

Radalek
06-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Common Safin we never know... for sure he can be a threat to Djoker ... they meet only once.. in Ausopen 05 .. 6-0 6-2 6-1 .. ok long time ago, but still a danger opponent for the djoker

Score was something like 6-2 6-3 6-1.Djokovic was barely 17 and just made his first GS appearance trough qualies.Safin was amazed later and predicted bright future for him...