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Europe/Africa Zone Group II Play-Off: Luxembourg at Finland (July 18-20, 2008)

GoMullerGo
06-19-2008, 06:05 PM
Gilles Muller will play here BUT not his doubles partner Mike Scheidweiler (and best lux clay court player) Gilles Muller's great preperation will be in Newport (they'll play in Finland on Clay) Nieminen will prepare it in Bastad....Clear thing that Muller will lose against Nieminen on clay.

4-1 or 5-0 if Muller plays against Nieminen at the first day

Labamba
07-03-2008, 12:31 PM
:hatoff: for Muller playing here after Newport

slow clay court is prepared in Hanko for this tie

hopefully Kontinen will get the chance to play a live singles rubber here :cool:

JMG
07-03-2008, 09:13 PM
Will we see a Harri/Henri doubles and maybe Paukku not in the team?

Smasher
07-08-2008, 06:47 PM
No Paukku in the Finnish team this time, which is probably a wise decision considering his recent results. Heliövaara making his DC debut. :yeah:

Team Finland: Jarkko Nieminen, Henri Kontinen, Timo Nieminen and Harri Heliövaara
Team Luxembourg: Gilles Müller, Philipp Grandjean, Christian Durbach and Laurent Bram

Zirconek
07-10-2008, 12:52 PM
Venue: Hanko Tennis Stadion, Hanko
Stadium Capacity: 1100
Date: 18 July - 20 July 2008
Day 1: 1300 hrs (1000 hrs GMT)
Day 2: 1300 hrs (1000 hrs GMT)
Day 3: 1300 hrs (1000 hrs GMT)
Surface: Clay (Red Clay) - Outdoors
Ball Type: Dunlop Fort Duck


Finland
Jarkko NIEMINEN
Timo NIEMINEN
Harri HELIOVAARA
Henri KONTINEN
Team Captain: Kim TIILIKAINEN

Luxembourg
Gilles MULLER
Philippe GRANDJEAN
Laurent BRAM
Christian DURBACH
Team Captain: Jacques RADOUX

Finland leads head to head 3-1


tie information: http://www.daviscup.com/ties/tie.asp?tie=100010205

Labamba
07-10-2008, 12:58 PM
No Paukku in the Finnish team this time, which is probably a wise decision considering his recent results. Heliövaara making his DC debut. :yeah:

Team Finland: Jarkko Nieminen, Henri Kontinen, Timo Nieminen and Harri Heliövaara
Team Luxembourg: Gilles Müller, Philipp Grandjean, Christian Durbach and Laurent Bram

the right decision from the captain :yeah:

good chance for the youngsters to get their first DC-match wins

GoMullerGo
07-12-2008, 12:18 PM
the right decision from the captain :yeah:

good chance for the youngsters to get their first DC-match wins

we will see. Bram and Grandjean could win against the young guys...but no guarantee. Jarkko is invincible in this tie for sure. The double could be interesting...but only maybe..as the best double player from lux is not playing..only one half of the team...muller...not scheidweiler. so we will see.

Labamba
07-16-2008, 11:08 AM
we will see. Bram and Grandjean could win against the young guys...but no guarantee. Jarkko is invincible in this tie for sure. The double could be interesting...but only maybe..as the best double player from lux is not playing..only one half of the team...muller...not scheidweiler. so we will see.

I'd be very surprised if we don't get atleast 4 wins in this tie. I don't know Bram or Grandjean, but I doubt they can beat Kontinen or T. Nieminen. In doubles we have Jarkko & Henri as a very potent team or the Kontinen/Heliövaara team of youngsters that play very well together. Btw, Muller commented yesterday that the courts were relatively fast for a clay court. The draw is made tomorrow around midday.

GoMullerGo
07-16-2008, 10:46 PM
I'd be very happy to get some articles from finland translated to english about this davis cup tie
is there a live score or will a tv channel show it?

JMG
07-17-2008, 11:04 AM
R1 - T.NIEMINEN (FIN) v G.MULLER (LUX)
R2 - J.NIEMINEN (FIN) v P.GRANDJEAN (LUX)
R3 - H.KONTINEN / J.NIEMINEN (FIN) v L.BRAM / G.MULLER (LUX)
R4 - J.NIEMINEN (FIN) v G.MULLER (LUX)
R5 - T.NIEMINEN (FIN) v P.GRANDJEAN (LUX)

Labamba
07-17-2008, 11:05 AM
Friday
R1 - T.NIEMINEN (FIN) v G.MULLER (LUX)
R2 - J.NIEMINEN (FIN) v P.GRANDJEAN (LUX)

Saturday
R3 - H.KONTINEN / J.NIEMINEN (FIN) v L.BRAM / G.MULLER (LUX)

Sunday
R4 - J.NIEMINEN (FIN) v G.MULLER (LUX)
R5 - T.NIEMINEN (FIN) v P.GRANDJEAN (LUX)

Labamba
07-17-2008, 11:07 AM
is there a live score or will a tv channel show it?

live score - maybe game by game updates
tv - no

GoMullerGo
07-17-2008, 09:12 PM
ok and where is the game by game update?

Labamba
07-18-2008, 09:59 AM
ok and where is the game by game update?

http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P215_01.html

atleast I hope so ;)

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 10:07 AM
so where is it?????????????????

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 10:08 AM
ok :)

Labamba
07-18-2008, 10:11 AM
so where is it?????????????????

:lol:

not started yet mate

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 10:12 AM
lol figured that out now :D

Labamba
07-18-2008, 10:12 AM
should be 1-1 after today

let's do this shit Timo :rocker2:

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 10:15 AM
yea should be 1-1 but could be 2-0 too for finland

Chris-swede
07-18-2008, 10:26 AM
even Luxemburg can win. Nieminen is not in good shape since weeks/months and Timo Nieminen is no world class player. Gilles Muller instead can really play.

Smasher
07-18-2008, 10:26 AM
3 dfs from timo in his first service game, lux leading 3-0 with a break

Labamba
07-18-2008, 10:28 AM
http://www.terijoki.fi/hanko/

dry and sunny weather in Hanko

also strong wind out there

Labamba
07-18-2008, 10:31 AM
even Luxemburg can win. Nieminen is not in good shape since weeks/months and Timo Nieminen is no world class player. Gilles Muller instead can really play.

:rolls:

Jarkko played well in Båstad, he'll bring the 3 points if necessary. Kontinen would beat Grandjean on Sunday, no way Lux is going to win this tie.

Labamba
07-18-2008, 10:31 AM
3 dfs from timo in his first service game, lux leading 3-0 with a break

well start Timo :tape:

Matti, are you there on site? :wavey:

Smasher
07-18-2008, 10:34 AM
Timo isn't shaking that badly anymore. Muller saves a bp and holds 4-1

Chris-swede
07-18-2008, 10:37 AM
:rolls:

Jarkko played well in Båstad, he'll bring the 3 points if necessary. Kontinen would beat Grandjean on Sunday, no way Lux is going to win this tie.

I really hope for a Suomi-win, but finnland allways struggled in DavisCup so i think it will be really tough. And who says Kontinen would win a single here? He is still a junior or?

Smasher
07-18-2008, 10:37 AM
Yes, I'm here Ville :wavey: i'll try to write something every now and then :p

Labamba
07-18-2008, 10:43 AM
I really hope for a Suomi-win, but finnland allways struggled in DavisCup so i think it will be really tough. And who says Kontinen would win a single here? He is still a junior or?

Kontinen is still a junior, but plays like a man. Grandjean is no star, from what I've heard...

Yes, I'm here Ville :wavey: i'll try to write something every now and then :p

thanks man :worship:

Chris-swede
07-18-2008, 10:44 AM
Muller is killing him

Smasher
07-18-2008, 10:46 AM
First set 6-1. Müller served well and hit few nice fh winners. Weak from timo, hitting way too short and soft so far

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 10:46 AM
nice
but where do you see that

Labamba
07-18-2008, 10:50 AM
show some fight Timo :o

Smasher
07-18-2008, 10:50 AM
Sun is shining here. Great weather

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 10:51 AM
Muller has not played 1 single match on clay this season

Labamba
07-18-2008, 10:59 AM
Müller 6-1 *2-1

Chris-swede
07-18-2008, 11:00 AM
1-0 Luxemburg, doubles very very important

JMG
07-18-2008, 11:02 AM
Timo the pusher :o

Chris-swede
07-18-2008, 11:17 AM
3-2 Muller

http://www.yle.fi/cgi-bin/tekstitv/ttv.cgi/html?PAGE=215

Labamba
07-18-2008, 11:17 AM
Müller 6-1 *4-3

Labamba
07-18-2008, 11:27 AM
Müller 6-1 *5-4

break him Timo

Smasher
07-18-2008, 11:29 AM
Müller serving brilliantly. No chance for timo if he can keep this up

Labamba
07-18-2008, 11:35 AM
6-1 6-4

better set from Timo atleast

Labamba
07-18-2008, 11:48 AM
6-1 6-4 3-0

Timo gave up :bigwave:

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 11:55 AM
easier than I thought....

Labamba
07-18-2008, 12:03 PM
6-1 6-4 *5-2

serving for the match

Venle
07-18-2008, 12:12 PM
So Luxembourg leads? :)

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 12:15 PM
well Muller was the heavy favorite :)
would be nice to see jarkko against muller...muller won the last match in luxembourg destroying jarkko who after that destroyed all his racquets :)

Labamba
07-18-2008, 12:22 PM
expected result, but kinda disappointed in the scoreline, Timo should have made it a bit closer

time for Henri to replace Timo as the 2nd singles player...

Venle
07-18-2008, 12:27 PM
time for Henri to replace Timo as the 2nd singles player...

I agree :o

Labamba
07-18-2008, 12:54 PM
Jarkko 3-0

I want atleast one bagel here :devil:

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 12:55 PM
well it would be logical...he is a sports student :)

Labamba
07-18-2008, 12:59 PM
5-0

Smasher
07-18-2008, 01:01 PM
Jarkko takes the first set 6-0. Only 1 ue from him in the whole set, which was a df

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 01:02 PM
where do you know these details from

Smasher
07-18-2008, 01:17 PM
I'm here in Hanko, watching it live

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 01:22 PM
alright

Venle
07-18-2008, 01:25 PM
Hey, who's Jarkko playing against? :)

Labamba
07-18-2008, 02:43 PM
Jarkko 6-0 6-1 6-0

no triple bagel :p

Matti, your take on Grandjean vs Henri/Timo based on what you saw today?

JMG
07-18-2008, 03:04 PM
They would play with Bram anyway I guess.

GoMullerGo
07-18-2008, 03:41 PM
yea Bram should play I think. They knew that no one could beat him so they played the guy who wont play on sunday nor saturday

Chris-swede
07-18-2008, 03:41 PM
Grandjean will lose vs Timo Nieminen.

Smasher
07-18-2008, 05:16 PM
If Timo plays at this level on sunday, it would be hard against both Grandjean or Bram. Doesn't matter which one plays. Hopefully either Henri or Harri gets a chance then. Jarkko shouldn't have too much problems to take care of his part

Venle
07-19-2008, 09:10 AM
Nieminen and Kontinen play doubles today

Labamba
07-19-2008, 10:51 AM
Nieminen/Kontinen vs Müller/Bram 4-1*

Labamba
07-19-2008, 10:53 AM
Finland 5-2*

Labamba
07-19-2008, 10:56 AM
Finland 6-2

great start :yeah:

Chris-swede
07-19-2008, 10:56 AM
i think Timo easily should beat GrandJean,Timo is better then he showed yesterday. But vs Bram??? Bram is not too bad. But he not has played since a long time.

Smasher
07-19-2008, 10:58 AM
Good 1st set from jarkko and henri. They saved two bps on henri's serve, other than that pretty easy first set. Bram unsurprisingly the weakest link so far

Labamba
07-19-2008, 11:19 AM
Finland 6-2 2-1*

Labamba
07-19-2008, 11:29 AM
Good 1st set from jarkko and henri. They saved two bps on henri's serve, other than that pretty easy first set. Bram unsurprisingly the weakest link so far

thanks again

I guess you're having a pretty nice weekend down there :)

Chris-swede
07-19-2008, 11:40 AM
break for luxemburg

Chris-swede
07-19-2008, 11:47 AM
rebreak,5-5

Chris-swede
07-19-2008, 11:55 AM
where is smasher???

Chris-swede
07-19-2008, 11:56 AM
6 all

Labamba
07-19-2008, 11:58 AM
2nd set into a tiebreak :scared:

Chris-swede
07-19-2008, 11:59 AM
yeah it seems to be close

finland still has a long road for the win

Smasher
07-19-2008, 12:02 PM
Set Fin 7-6. lux saved 2 sps in the breaker, fin one sp. Finland was up a break, but lux managed to break back earlier. Bram really raised his game, he smashed few forehands damn nicely. Müller played ok, but Bram was the one turning this into a match.

Labamba
07-19-2008, 12:04 PM
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

6-2 7-6

GoMullerGo
07-19-2008, 12:05 PM
Bram definetly can play. its a long way for a lux win now.

Smasher
07-19-2008, 12:11 PM
Thanks ville, it has been a great weekend so far :wavey: the level of play was very good in the 2nd set, so it's been a pleasure today :p

Labamba
07-19-2008, 12:13 PM
Finland 6-2 7-6 1-0

Smasher
07-19-2008, 12:30 PM
Lux a break up, *3-2. Few great returns earned them the break

Labamba
07-19-2008, 12:48 PM
Finland 6-2 7-6 5-4

break time

Labamba
07-19-2008, 12:59 PM
another TB

JMG
07-19-2008, 01:04 PM
Too bad Timo doesn't have the 4th rubber. Timo vs Bram would have been a fun match in best of 5.

Labamba
07-19-2008, 01:07 PM
6-2 7-6 7-6

great job boys :banana:

JMG
07-19-2008, 01:10 PM
:rocker2:

Labamba
07-19-2008, 01:11 PM
Too bad Timo doesn't have the 4th rubber. Timo vs Bram would have been a fun match in best of 5.

I don't think Timo will play tomorrow in any case

Smasher
07-19-2008, 01:16 PM
Pretty good-quality match after the first set. I believe Timo won't play tommorrow. At least I heard something like that from Kim Tiilikainen's mouth yesterday :p But who knows what's going to happen

GoMullerGo
07-19-2008, 03:34 PM
now I think Muller - Jarkko will be a good match, its clear that Jarkko is HEAVY favorite but it can be a good match. 4 or 5 sets..or straight 3 for jarkko

Labamba
07-19-2008, 04:24 PM
new twist in this tie, Jarkko won't play tomorrow :eek:

He wants to fly to Toronto as soon as possible and get ready for the hard court season. I guess the Finnish camp is confident they can win atleast one of the matches tomorrow...we better not mess this up now :help:

Kontinen vs Müller & T. Nieminen vs Bram
or
Heliövaara vs Müller & Kontinen vs Bram

GoMullerGo
07-19-2008, 04:46 PM
Interesting! Luxembourg has chances to win in this case!

Chris-swede
07-19-2008, 10:44 PM
is Nieminen silly??? He cannot quit it right now???

JMG
07-19-2008, 11:49 PM
Timo is not losing to Bram.

GustavoM_Fan
07-20-2008, 12:43 AM
Kontinen or Heliovarin have chances to stop Muller?

I suppose Bram wont be a big problem

Labamba
07-20-2008, 08:46 AM
is Nieminen silly??? He cannot quit it right now???

bad decision imo, but the Finnish captain said it was known well in advance

well, it's great that Jarkko played two matches, Baghdatis skipped the DC completely this week

Labamba
07-20-2008, 09:45 AM
Heliövaara vs Müller up first

this can only mean that Kontinen will play the 5th rubber, youth power :rocker2:

JMG
07-20-2008, 09:53 AM
If this was clear that Jarkko wouldn't play, then I wonder why Paukku isn't in the team. He would have had a better chance than Heliövaara, just like Kontinen. Heliövaara vs Muller looks like a tank, which is unnecessary.

Labamba
07-20-2008, 10:38 AM
Müller 4-3

Smasher
07-20-2008, 10:45 AM
Harri just saved 2 bps, one with an ace and held, 4-4

GoMullerGo
07-20-2008, 10:57 AM
and what about the service game of Muller?

Smasher
07-20-2008, 11:00 AM
2 fh ues and 1 forced bh error from harri to 0-40. Harri saved two sps, but a great bh volley earns Müller the break and a set, lux 6-4.

Smasher
07-20-2008, 11:10 AM
2nd set, Harri breaks with a brilliant bh lob and serves *2-1

Smasher
07-20-2008, 11:25 AM
Fin up 4-2

Smasher
07-20-2008, 11:38 AM
Harri broken while serving for the set, 5-5

Labamba
07-20-2008, 11:41 AM
edit: 5-5 :mad:

take this set Harri

Smasher
07-20-2008, 11:46 AM
Müller saves a bp and holds to 6-5

Smasher
07-20-2008, 11:53 AM
Shit, set lux 7-5. Harri is playing well, a shame he was even a bit unlucky in the end. Müller painted the lines with four shots in the last game

Chris-swede
07-20-2008, 11:53 AM
If this was clear that Jarkko wouldn't play, then I wonder why Paukku isn't in the team. He would have had a better chance than Heliövaara, just like Kontinen. Heliövaara vs Muller looks like a tank, which is unnecessary.

totally silly choice by tilikainen. Paukku is no hero but he is so more experienced then Heliovaara is.

6:4,7:5 for Luxemburg now.

Hope Henri will win...would be a shame to see finland relegated....

GoMullerGo
07-20-2008, 11:54 AM
go Luxembourg!

kostas kastoria
07-20-2008, 11:56 AM
WHERE U see the matches?

Smasher
07-20-2008, 12:06 PM
Harri got broken after 40-0, lux leads the third set with a break 3-0

Chris-swede
07-20-2008, 12:08 PM
3-0 in 3rd set for lux

Labamba
07-20-2008, 12:11 PM
good effort from Harri :) shame he couldn't take a set, seems like he would have deserved one

Smasher
07-20-2008, 12:13 PM
Harri having some cramps, medical timeout for finland

Smasher
07-20-2008, 12:17 PM
4-0

Chris-swede
07-20-2008, 12:21 PM
harri played well for 1 and a half sets...and now it is showing that he is only somwhere 1500 in the world ,but i think with his game here he should fast rise up to 500 or so

GoMullerGo
07-20-2008, 12:25 PM
Luxembourg wants a bagle too!!! :D

GoMullerGo
07-20-2008, 12:28 PM
no bagle :(

Chris-swede
07-20-2008, 12:30 PM
5-1, so no bagle! :)

Smasher
07-20-2008, 12:31 PM
GSM Lux 6-4, 7-5, 6-1

Smasher
07-20-2008, 12:38 PM
Bram vs. kontinen it is

GoMullerGo
07-20-2008, 12:41 PM
thats what I said ;)

Labamba
07-20-2008, 12:48 PM
Kontinen vs Bram

good luck Henri :music:

Chris-swede
07-20-2008, 12:50 PM
he will need a lot of luck and i do not think he likes clay too much

Smasher
07-20-2008, 01:14 PM
Henri saves 2 bps, 1-1

Smasher
07-20-2008, 01:18 PM
Fin breaks and serves, *2-1. Some smoking winners from henri here, df on bp though

Chris-swede
07-20-2008, 01:23 PM
bram has more than 50%chance to win...if he plays regularly...but he not does...so henri...hmm

JMG
07-20-2008, 01:24 PM
Henri is the clear fave imo.

GoMullerGo
07-20-2008, 01:26 PM
always keep in mind that Bram is no pro player anymore!

Smasher
07-20-2008, 01:29 PM
Henri on fire, leads with a double break and serves 4-1

Chris-swede
07-20-2008, 01:32 PM
go Henri! Why Bram quit pro tennis?

GoMullerGo
07-20-2008, 01:35 PM
just like Scheidweiler and Gilles Kremer. No financial help. All the money goes to Muller actually

Labamba
07-20-2008, 01:36 PM
Kontinen 5-1 :bounce:

Smasher
07-20-2008, 01:37 PM
Set Fin 6-1, slight rain here. Put play continues

Chris-swede
07-20-2008, 01:38 PM
luxemburgs tennis will die very soon...Kremer and mostly scheidweiler was good players,no heroes, no grand slams,mostly no challengers but Schweidweiler a superb player for futures.

GoMullerGo
07-20-2008, 01:41 PM
Scheidweiler was a great Doubles and Singles player...but spent 60 000 euro out of his own pocket to play his last pro season...no sponsor. Muller is still there for a few years though :)

Smasher
07-20-2008, 01:49 PM
Fin 2-1 on serve

Labamba
07-20-2008, 01:53 PM
Henri has a very good head on his shoulders, let's keep this up son! :rocker2:

Smasher
07-20-2008, 02:01 PM
Henri up a break 4-1 in the second. Still some light rain.

Chris-swede
07-20-2008, 02:01 PM
another break for henri!!!

Smasher
07-20-2008, 02:07 PM
Bp saved, fin holds 5-2

Smasher
07-20-2008, 02:12 PM
Love game and set Fin 6-3

Smasher
07-20-2008, 02:19 PM
Both teams hold to love, 1-1

Labamba
07-20-2008, 02:20 PM
Kontinen 6-1 6-3 *0-1

Smasher
07-20-2008, 02:27 PM
2-2

Smasher
07-20-2008, 02:31 PM
Break finland, 2 great bh winners and a huge fh return earn fin the break, *3-2

Smasher
07-20-2008, 02:35 PM
Fin serving *4-3

Labamba
07-20-2008, 02:38 PM
so close Henri :eek:

Labamba
07-20-2008, 02:42 PM
one more...

Smasher
07-20-2008, 02:44 PM
gsm Finland

Chris-swede
07-20-2008, 02:49 PM
well done Henri.

It worked out,but i am dissapointed that Jarkko not played for personal success....daviscup is team sport....

but i see a nicer future for finnland with Harri and Henri,maybe Henri II and Micke. Henrik Sillanpää maybe also.

Smasher
07-20-2008, 02:54 PM
Absolutely brillint from Henri. Best I've seen from him. No real collapses and only few errors isn't much considering how aggressively he played. I'll try to share some photos with you tomorrow

Labamba
07-20-2008, 02:58 PM
Kontinen def. Bram 6-1 6-3 6-3 :woohoo:

great win for Henri :worship:

Labamba
07-20-2008, 03:02 PM
Absolutely brillint from Henri. Best I've seen from him. No real collapses and only few errors isn't much considering how aggressively he played. I'll try to share some photos with you tomorrow

Matti, thanks for the comments on all 3 days :bowdown:

Venle
07-20-2008, 05:37 PM
Well done, fellow Finns :hug:

GlennMirnyi
07-20-2008, 09:59 PM
Congrats Henri! :worship:

Smasher
07-22-2008, 07:51 AM
Here are some pictures from the last weekend. Not great, but at least you can see something :p

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk258/MattiFromFinland/FIN-LUX%20Davis%20Cup/

Labamba
07-22-2008, 09:12 AM
:yeah: