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Will Nole ever beat a quality opponent on grass/clay?

Fedex
06-17-2008, 12:53 AM
Honest question. Djokovic's best win on clay came against Robredo at Estoril in 2007. Hardly impressive.

His only quality grass court win came against Hewitt at Wimbledon last year, but Hewitt has just one grass court title in the past 5 years; not really a great grass court player anymore.

That resume, or lack of, speaks two words to me; One dimensional.

Alex999
06-17-2008, 01:00 AM
No he won't. He sucks.

Albop
06-17-2008, 01:02 AM
No he won't. He sucks.

:bigclap:

Fedex
06-17-2008, 01:03 AM
No he won't. He sucks.

You make a valid point. Thanks for contributing to the discussion. :)

camnation
06-17-2008, 01:07 AM
No he won't. He sucks.
I agree.

Lee
06-17-2008, 01:08 AM
Nole will never win another slam.

Nole will never threaten Nadal's #2 ranking.

Nole will never threaten Federer's #1 ranking.

Anything else?

Fedex
06-17-2008, 01:11 AM
Nole will never win another slam.

Nole will never threaten Nadal's #2 ranking.

Nole will never threaten Federer's #1 ranking.

Anything else?

Please try to stay on topic. None of those things, however true they are, are relevant to this discussion. Thanks. :)

Fedex
06-17-2008, 01:14 AM
I agree.

Such sensitive creatures you Djokotards are.

Carry on.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 01:16 AM
:worship:

you are clearly seeing the light right now :yeah:

You really shouldn't be "watching" the light. It will blind you.

Geez, the Djokotards aren't very 'bright' either.

camnation
06-17-2008, 01:19 AM
You really shouldn't be "watching" the light. It will blind you.

Geez, the Djokotards aren't very 'bright' either.
Bah? Your diction is too hard for me to understand. :sad:

Fedex
06-17-2008, 01:23 AM
Bah? Your diction is too hard for me to understand. :sad:

That's too bad, because I've already tried to simplify it for you.

GlennMirnyi
06-17-2008, 01:26 AM
That's too bad, because I've already tried to simplify it for you.

Put it in form of faces, faking actions and punches to the chest. That's the only way the Fakertards get it.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 01:28 AM
Put it in form of faces, faking actions and punches to the chest. That's the only way the Fakertards get it.

Duly noted.

ASP0315
06-17-2008, 01:35 AM
No
Hewitt victory is irrelevant. Beating hewitt is like beating a top 50 player.(hewitt is no longer the player he used to be in 2001-2004 season.)
Everbody knows Robredo is a fluky top ten player. ;)
i'll bet he will lose to kevin anderson or any other big server on grass. if he faces them. He needs some luck of the draw at wimbledon. i'm pretty sure he will be praying for average players like murray,wawrinka,baghdatis etc in his section. :lol:

GlennMirnyi
06-17-2008, 01:35 AM
Duly noted.

Also swearing, beating people and threatening journalists.

sheeter
06-17-2008, 01:38 AM
Also swearing, beating people and threatening journalists.

Haha!

ASP0315
06-17-2008, 01:44 AM
Put it in form of faces, faking actions and punches to the chest. That's the only way the Fakertards get it.

Also swearing, beating people and threatening journalists.

:haha: :haha:

Fedex
06-17-2008, 01:45 AM
No
Hewitt victory is irrelevant. Beating hewitt is like beating a top 50 player.(hewitt is no longer the player he used to be in 2001-2004 season.)
Everbody knows Robredo is a fluky top ten player. ;)
i'll bet he will lose to kevin anderson or any other big server on grass. if he faces them. He needs some luck of the draw at wimbledon. i'm pretty sure he will be praying for average players like murray,wawrinka,baghdatis etc in his section. :lol:

All good points.

Merton
06-17-2008, 01:51 AM
Yes. Easy answers to easy questions.

By the way, I don't know how many people saw last year's quarterfinal of Djokovic against Baghdatis, but it was a great match and certainly Marcos should be called a "quality opponent" based on that performance.

luie
06-17-2008, 01:59 AM
ADD to that a 100% HARD courter ON HARDS. FED was not 100% he was even hospitalized days before the tourny ,,for what ever @ AO 08 (I'am not saying he had mono..just something serious enough to lose weight &be hospitalized even if it was a precaution)... Roddick took,him out @ DUBAI, (fast hard)big serving anderson took him out on FAST hard, maimi,davydenko beat him,gilles simon beat him......TSONGA unproven before tourny.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 02:01 AM
Yes. Easy answers to easy questions.

By the way, I don't know how many people saw last year's quarterfinal of Djokovic against Baghdatis, but it was a great match and certainly Marcos should be called a "quality opponent" based on that performance.

Baghdatis has a career 18-8 record on grass, hardly a devastating grass court player. The fact that Djokovic struggled so much to beat him just further proves my point.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 02:02 AM
ADD to that a 100% HARD courter ON HARDS. FED was not 100% he was even hospitalized days before the tourny ,,for what ever @ AO 08 (I'am not saying he had mono..just something serious enough to lose weight &be hospitalized even if it was a precaution)... Roddick took,him out @ DUBAI, (fast hard)big serving anderson took him out on FAST hard, maimi,davydenko beat him,gilles simon beat him......TSONGA unproven before tourny.

Yes, but the discussion is not about hard courts. Try to stay on topic.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 02:03 AM
Merton, you never addressed the second part of the question either. Who, other than Boredo, has Djokovic beaten on clay that could be considered a quality opponent?

Merton
06-17-2008, 02:04 AM
Baghdatis has a career 18-8 record on grass, hardly a devastating grass court player. The fact that Djokovic struggled so much to beat him just further proves my point.

Obviously it always depends on where you set the bar for "quality". It can come to only Nadal on clay and Federer on grass but that would be too severe. :p

~*BGT*~
06-17-2008, 02:04 AM
No he won't. He sucks.

I thought you weren't coming back. ;)

ASP0315
06-17-2008, 02:07 AM
Yes. Easy answers to easy questions.

By the way, I don't know how many people saw last year's quarterfinal of Djokovic against Baghdatis, but it was a great match and certainly Marcos should be called a "quality opponent" based on that performance.

if i'm not mistaken, fakervic used medical time outs to win that match. :lol:

Merton
06-17-2008, 02:09 AM
Merton, you never addressed the second part of the question either. Who, other than Boredo, has Djokovic beaten on clay that could be considered a quality opponent?

Gonzalez at the 2006 FO was a quality opponent.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 02:14 AM
Gonzalez at the 2006 FO was a quality opponent.

Fena is a better hard court player than he is a clay court player. Interestingly enough, Gonzo has won both of his hard court matches with Novak.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 02:16 AM
Obviously it always depends on where you set the bar for "quality". It can come to only Nadal on clay and Federer on grass but that would be too severe. :p

Roddick would be a quality win on grass for instance. He is a two time Wimbledon finalist and his game is very well suited for the grass courts.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 02:17 AM
if i'm not mistaken, fakervic used medical time outs to win that match. :lol:

Amazing that RFK has the audacity to call Djokovic a 'Spartan', when he is anything but one. (Of course he was singing a different tune when Djokovic choked away last year's USO final) Physically, he's probably the most fragile player in the top ten. The medical time out stunts he pulls are almost Williams-esque.

luie
06-17-2008, 02:20 AM
Yes, but the discussion is not about hard courts. Try to stay on topic.
My bad.I taught it was this year!!! You meant ever I see !!!!! OVERALL..
Anyway I didn't think it was this bad... arguing about gonzo of 06 etc.
DAMN.

Marc23
06-17-2008, 02:25 AM
This thread leaves us with just Roger and Rafael. .

camnation
06-17-2008, 02:25 AM
Hey Fedex, the first reply basically answered what you're determined to prove:
No he won't. He sucks.
So all subsequent discussion (including my posts) were redundant.

MIMIC
06-17-2008, 02:32 AM
He's 21. Jesus Christ. Will you allow him some time? It's not like he's in his 30s or something.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 02:36 AM
Hey Fedex, the first reply basically answered what you're determined to prove:

So all subsequent discussion (including my posts) were redundant.

Translation: "I don't want to discuss tennis because I'm incapable of doing so, so I'll take the easy way out and play the "He sucks" card".

I asked a question. I want some real answers and not some :bs: answers from Nole supporters who are just pissed off, because as it turns out, your boy isn't that much of an all court player after all.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 02:41 AM
He's 21. Jesus Christ. Will you allow him some time? It's not like he's in his 30s or something.

Then why is he christened like he is the next great all court player (ala Federer), when it's been proven that he's NOT. He dominates on one surface.

I just aksed a simple question. Don't get your panties all tied up in a bunch.

camnation
06-17-2008, 02:44 AM
I asked a question. I want some real answers and not some :bs: answers from Nole supporters who are just pissed off, because as it turns out, your boy isn't that much of an all court player after all.
Translation: This is another hate thread. Not to be a "Djokotard" or anything, but some are your posts in this thread are "hater" sympathetic. :)

Fedex
06-17-2008, 02:47 AM
Translation: This is another hate thread. Not to be a "Djokotard" or anything, but some are your posts in this thread are "hater" sympathetic. :)

Nice dodge.

camnation
06-17-2008, 02:50 AM
Nice dodge.
Thank you.

ASP0315
06-17-2008, 02:52 AM
Amazing that RFK has the audacity to call Djokovic a 'Spartan', when he is anything but one. (Of course he was singing a different tune when Djokovic choked away last year's USO final) Physically, he's probably the most fragile player in the top ten. The medical time out stunts he pulls are almost Williams-esque.

exactly correct.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 02:55 AM
Thank you.

So will Djokovic finally beat a quality grass court player this year?

BigJohn
06-17-2008, 02:55 AM
The obvious answer is yes, since he has already done it, at least on grass. I would count his wins against Nalbandian and Hewitt.

On clay, he did take out a former RG champ in 2007, even if in that context, it is probably pushing it a bit to call Gaudio a quality opponent.

The fact is as much as I dislike the guy as a person( no need to explain his flaws to me, I think we all know them) , as a player, he is hardly a nobody. And is already one of the best, yet still learning.

He will achieve big things. Maybe he won't be as spectacular and as dominant as he himself think he's gonna get. Probably never a Golden Slam. But he made the semis the last 5 majors, so he is not a fluke.

I believe that he will have his moment in the sun on both surface. And I will probably be miserable when that happens.

Forehander
06-17-2008, 02:56 AM
Are these repetitive threads meant to be created for attracting Clay Death and boost his posts up? If so very kind of you people.

MIMIC
06-17-2008, 02:58 AM
Then why is he christened like he is the next great all court player (ala Federer), when it's been proven that he's NOT. He dominates on one surface.

I just aksed a simple question. Don't get your panties all tied up in a bunch.

Do you REALLY need to know why Djokovic has all this hype surrounding him? He the youngest player to have reached or gone beyond the semi-finals in all 4 Grand Slams. Do you know what that implies? POTENTIAL

But the word "quality" is pretty subjective. Who do YOU consider a "quality" opponent? (Lemme guess...ONLY Federer and Nadal, right? :rolleyes:)

camnation
06-17-2008, 03:00 AM
So will Djokovic finally beat a quality grass court player this year?
All right, I'll bite. My guess: yes, except if it's Fed, in that case then no. He still isn't a fully developed player yet. (Don't quote me on this ;).)

Mimi
06-17-2008, 03:03 AM
he certainly will, he is still young :angel:

Fedex
06-17-2008, 03:05 AM
Do you REALLY need to know why Djokovic has all this hype surrounding him? He the youngest player to have reached or gone beyond the semi-finals in all 4 Grand Slams. Do you know what that implies? POTENTIAL

But the word "quality" is pretty subjective. Who do YOU consider a "quality" opponent? (Lemme guess...ONLY Federer and Nadal, right? :rolleyes:)

That means very little if you don't come away with championships.

Starting out strong doesn't necessarily guarantee a great career either. Michael Chang, the youngest grand slam winner in tennis history, didn't win another major after his 1989 triumph at Roland Garros. He had a solid career, but not the career people projected him to have.

Quality opponents are players that consistently do well on that surface or slam. So far, Djokovic has beaten very few quality opponents on clay and grass.

Forehander
06-17-2008, 03:06 AM
he certainly will, he is still young :angel:

Mimi where are you from in HK?

Mimi
06-17-2008, 03:08 AM
yes, I live in quarry bay :wavey:
Mimi where are you from in HK?

Fedex
06-17-2008, 03:08 AM
All right, I'll bite. My guess: yes, except if it's Fed, in that case then no. He still isn't a fully developed player yet. (Don't quote me on this ;).)

Who do you foresee him beating?

Forehander
06-17-2008, 03:17 AM
yes, I live in quarry bay :wavey:

Haha I am currently on holiday with my family. I am staying in Tai Po with family friends and sometimes Tsim sa ?zhui? in Marco Polo Hotel (friends are there atm so I can stay over). I've played tennis once while here, I played at Tin Hau! Nice courts they have there :) Loving Hong Kong, such a fancy place.

camnation
06-17-2008, 03:18 AM
Who do you foresee him beating?
Yes=everyone. Except Fed=except Fed. :) Hard to tell without a draw anyway.

Mimi
06-17-2008, 03:22 AM
oh i see, Tin Hau/Causeway Bay, the Victoria Park right? there is a main court there, sadly the only ATP tour tourney: The Salem Open was no longer held, Ferrero was the last champion at 2003 :angel:

sorry that you have come at this time when there are heavy rains and floodings :mad:
Haha I am currently on holiday with my family. I am staying in Tai Po with family friends and sometimes Tsim sa ?zhui? in Marco Polo Hotel (friends are there atm so I can stay over). I've played tennis once while here, I played at Tin Hau! Nice courts they have there :)

MIMIC
06-17-2008, 03:23 AM
That means very little if you don't come away with championships.

Australian Open? He won it, remember?

Starting out strong doesn't necessarily guarantee a great career either. Michael Chang, the youngest grand slam winner in tennis history, didn't win another major after his 1989 triumph at Roland Garros. He had a solid career, but not the career people projected him to have.

So Djokovic is the next Chang? Isn't that a bit presumptuous?

Quality opponents are players that consistently do well on that surface or slam. So far, Djokovic has beaten very few quality opponents on clay and grass.

Can you name some names, please?

MrChopin
06-17-2008, 03:27 AM
No. The only quality grass opponent is Federer, and we know that Rafa will draw and beat Djkokovic the next nine Wimbledons, at which point Fed will retire with fourteen straight trophies. Since Fed will forever hide at Halle, Djokovic won't be able to beat him at Queens either.

Forehander
06-17-2008, 03:31 AM
oh i see, Tin Hau/Causeway Bay, the Victoria Park right? there is a main court there, sadly the only ATP tour tourney: The Salem Open was no longer held, Ferrero was the last champion at 2003 :angel:

sorry that you have come at this time when there are heavy rains and floodings :mad:

I'm not sure victoria park or not. There's also a library and some track and field next to it (plus a stinky sewage lol). I've been here for 3 weeks now I must admit the weather's been pretty intense. We were planning to go up to some mountain through some sky cable car and stay for a few days as well not long ago, but lucky they stopped functioning due to severe rain so we couldn't go up. Looking forward to a sunny clear day so we can go do some bike riding and BBQ in Tai Po here. Any other good courts around you know of? :)

Rafa = Fed Killa
06-17-2008, 03:35 AM
You really shouldn't be "watching" the light. It will blind you.

Geez, the Djokotards aren't very 'bright' either.

Nole is the future of the game.

Now go join your Fedtards in the circle around your Federer posters.

Clay Death
06-17-2008, 03:39 AM
No. The only quality grass opponent is Federer, and we know that Rafa will draw and beat Djkokovic the next nine Wimbledons, at which point Fed will retire with fourteen straight trophies. Since Fed will forever hide at Halle, Djokovic won't be able to beat him at Queens either.


cool sig.

we do need to see Djokovic in Fed`s 1/2 at Wimby this time around. lets see what Fed is made of. hiding out in Halle is not going to cut it. he never faced a single top 10 player there this year.

Mimi
06-17-2008, 03:39 AM
oh i used to play in the tennis courts in Quarry Bay/Sai Wan Ho, but i know its not easy to book a court, its my tennis mate who booked it, he has to book it one month ago :eek: , especially during summar as many students are hiring tennis coaches to teach them tennis :wavey:
I've been here for 3 weeks now I must admit the weather's been pretty intense. We were planning to go up to some mountain through some sky cable car and stay for a few days as well not long ago, but lucky they stopped functioning due to severe rain so we couldn't go up. Looking forward to a sunny clear day so we can go do some bike riding and BBQ in Tai Po here. Any other good courts around you know of? :)

MrChopin
06-17-2008, 03:56 AM
cool sig.

we do need to see Djokovic in Fed`s 1/2 at Wimby this time around. lets see what Fed is made of. hiding out in Halle is not going to cut it. he never faced a single top 10 player there this year.

Thanks! If you don't know, it's from Temple of Doom. Rafa plays the priest that can rip out people's hearts while keeping them alive.

It would be nice to see Fed-Novak in the semis, but I would prefer to be ensured a Rafa-Novak match as they have delivered some of the best tennis we've seen recently. We can wait until hc to see a Fed-Novak semi, at which point, the anticipation will be sky high (and the surface will be good for both). Either way, a semi between #1, #2, or #3 is going to be great.

Clay Death
06-17-2008, 04:03 AM
Thanks! If you don't know, it's from Temple of Doom. Rafa plays the priest that can rip out people's hearts while keeping them alive.

It would be nice to see Fed-Novak in the semis, but I would prefer to be ensured a Rafa-Novak match as they have delivered some of the best tennis we've seen recently. We can wait until hc to see a Fed-Novak semi, at which point, the anticipation will be sky high (and the surface will be good for both). Either way, a semi between #1, #2, or #3 is going to be great.


"temple of doom". gives me ideas. we should call the Chatrier court at Roland Garros the temple of doom where the high priest of death, the Clay Monster, conducts his death ceremonies.

you are right. Nole and the Clay Monster have delivered quality product. that Hamburg semi was an incredible match that went for over 3 hours (3 hours and 3 minutes to be exact).

the final at Queens was phenominal in quality. it took over 2 hours for the Clay Monster to break Nole`s spirit.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 05:44 AM
Nole is the future of the game.

Now go join your Fedtards in the circle around your Federer posters.

Don't dodge the question. This thread isn't about me or Federer, but you knew that.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 05:46 AM
cool sig.

we do need to see Djokovic in Fed`s 1/2 at Wimby this time around. lets see what Fed is made of. hiding out in Halle is not going to cut it. he never faced a single top 10 player there this year.

Of course, never mind the fact that Federer has been playing in Halle since 2002, before Nadal and Djokovic were even playing on the tour on a regular basis.

Yes, someone is hiding, but it isn't Federer. :)

You fail again.

Clay Death
06-17-2008, 06:09 AM
Of course, never mind the fact that Federer has been playing in Halle since 2002, before Nadal and Djokovic were even playing on the tour on a regular basis.

Yes, someone is hiding, but it isn't Federer. :)

You fail again.

negative. if he had any balls at all, he would have entered Barcelona rather than Estoril. look where Estoril got him.

same with Halle. why not meet the top dogs at Queens?

Action Jackson
06-17-2008, 06:13 AM
Affirmative.

Clay Death
06-17-2008, 06:19 AM
Affirmative.

10-4.

prima donna
06-17-2008, 06:23 AM
negative. if he had any balls at all, he would have entered Barcelona rather than Estoril. look where Estoril got him.

same with Halle. why not meet the top dogs at Queens?
Weren't you supposedly taking a hiatus from the board ?

Ariadne
06-17-2008, 06:27 AM
negative. if he had any balls at all, he would have entered Barcelona rather than Estoril. look where Estoril got him.

same with Halle. why not meet the top dogs at Queens?

:lol:

Your comments are always so absurd. Thanks for posting because you actually amuse me for some reason. I think it is how your posts are so absurdly based in fantasy world, yet you present them in a semi-intelligent spin heavy way. You are like the Bill O'Riley of fanboys (not getting political, just refering to his excessive spin and rhetoric usage).

Clay Death
06-17-2008, 06:47 AM
:lol:

Your comments are always so absurd. Thanks for posting because you actually amuse me for some reason. I think it is how your posts are so absurdly based in fantasy world, yet you present them in a semi-intelligent spin heavy way. You are like the Bill O'Riley of fanboys (not getting political, just refering to his excessive spin and rhetoric usage).


Clay Death is the true master of intelligent exuberance.

leng jai
06-17-2008, 06:49 AM
Quality opponents do not exist in this era.

Modetopia
06-17-2008, 08:10 AM
No
Hewitt victory is irrelevant. Beating hewitt is like beating a top 50 player.(hewitt is no longer the player he used to be in 2001-2004 season.)
Everbody knows Robredo is a fluky top ten player. ;)
i'll bet he will lose to kevin anderson or any other big server on grass. if he faces them. He needs some luck of the draw at wimbledon. i'm pretty sure he will be praying for average players like murray,wawrinka,baghdatis etc in his section. :lol:
Berrer, Vacek, Kiefer, Kohlschreiber... average, no?

KitinovRules
06-17-2008, 08:23 AM
Off Topic:

PMK is Innocent avatar :haha::haha::haha:

Trifon Ivanov , famous Bulgarian defender.
He was also known to took Stoichkov, Gospodinov, Sirakov, Lechkov , Balakov and rest of the Bulgarian national team to a Casino just 24 hours before the 3rd place match against Sweden.
They came actually out of the Casino few hours before the match.

Action Jackson
06-17-2008, 08:34 AM
Off Topic:

PMK is Innocent avatar :haha::haha::haha:

Trifon Ivanov , famous Bulgarian defender.
He was also known to took Stoichkov, Gospodinov, Sirakov, Lechkov , Balakov and rest of the Bulgarian national team to a Casino just 24 hours before the 3rd place match against Sweden.
They came actually out of the Casino few hours before the match.

:worship::worship:

He isn't just sexy, intelligent as well.

KitinovRules
06-17-2008, 08:54 AM
:worship::worship:

He isn't just sexy, intelligent as well.

Indeed :worship:

On a given day,he could take a 40m free kick , and shot directly to the goalie.
What a lefty he was.

Nadal_Fanatic
06-17-2008, 09:20 AM
No he won't. He sucks.
Very well thought out post. I commend you for your great knowledge. :worship:

Petrovic
06-17-2008, 10:18 AM
Joker will never win a grand slam !
He will never become a player to win a masters.
He is to old and to fat !
OMG i have tears in my eyes !

groundstroke
06-17-2008, 10:25 AM
He's not good enough.

groundstroke
06-17-2008, 10:27 AM
1.Joker will never win a grand slam !
He will never become a player to win a masters.
He is to old and to fat !
OMG i have tears in my eyes !
Trolling at its best.

MaryX
06-17-2008, 10:44 AM
h it's a disgrace, to see the human race, looking at Djokovic's face...
Isn't this thread created because of that?
And, to answer the question-yes, no doubt.

groundstroke
06-17-2008, 11:13 AM
Isn't this thread created because of that?
And, to answer the question-yes, no doubt.
Pretty much, but that line is from a Bob Marley song, I just added in Flopovic's name in.

Manon
06-17-2008, 11:32 AM
Don't answer if question is (un)intentionally stupid.
Don't anwser coz if you do that you're the same as them.
Don't answer if some lonely jerk have no his own life (at most in his/hers early 20es).

Or (if you can and get nerves) be camnation or Alex999 or Lee.

N.B. This forum 'never heard' of administrators or I'm wrong?

How much I have to pay to kiss admin or some mod ass?
How much is needed to be truly retarded to make admin take a move?
How to become L_mac, Glenn, Blaze, Fedex, leng_jai, sapri(whatever),Prima dona, fast_clay, Albop (registered fan of Djokovic)...How to become one of these scary persons?

If you manage (somehow) to become one of them you'll live 100 brainless years. Happilly of course.

How to recognize virtual 'friend'? He/she claims you're friends but your guts tells you something diferent.

During th WW II it was - 'it's not for Gypsies, Serbs and Yews', now 'it's not for fans of Novak Djokovic and Serbs'. Anyone who says I'm wrong is a liar. From head to feet.

Now, once again - administrators, do they live here? Not mods, most of them is payed off.

To add: How to get rid of me/us? Ban is easiest way. Sh*t happens all the time.

scarecrows
06-17-2008, 11:39 AM
How to become L_mac, Glenn, Blaze, Fedex, leng_jai, sapri(whatever),Prima dona, fast_clay, Albop (registered fan of Djokovic)...How to become one of these scary persons?


funny how you dont mention Clay Death and Rafa=Fed Killa, the biggest 2 clowns of this board

edit. sorry i forgot Bad Religion

ToniTennis
06-17-2008, 11:43 AM
negative. if he had any balls at all, he would have entered Barcelona rather than Estoril. look where Estoril got him.


Not that I don't agree with that comment but, how do we end up talking about Fed rather than Nole in this thread?

MaryX
06-17-2008, 12:24 PM
During th WW II it was - 'it's not for Gypsies, Serbs and Yews', now 'it's not for fans of Novak Djokovic and Serbs'. Anyone who says I'm wrong is a liar. From head to feet.

Manon, fantastic post :yeah:
It is all truth, but then again, you can expect to be called paranoid here.

Bernard Black
06-17-2008, 12:45 PM
Don't answer if question is (un)intentionally stupid.
Don't anwser coz if you do that you're the same as them.
Don't answer if some lonely jerk have no his own life (at most in his/hers early 20es).

Or (if you can and get nerves) be camnation or Alex999 or Lee.

N.B. This forum 'never heard' of administrators or I'm wrong?

How much I have to pay to kiss admin or some mod ass?
How much is needed to be truly retarded to make admin take a move?
How to become L_mac, Glenn, Blaze, Fedex, leng_jai, sapri(whatever),Prima dona, fast_clay, Albop (registered fan of Djokovic)...How to become one of these scary persons?

If you manage (somehow) to become one of them you'll live 100 brainless years. Happilly of course.

How to recognize virtual 'friend'? He/she claims you're friends but your guts tells you something diferent.

During th WW II it was - 'it's not for Gypsies, Serbs and Yews', now 'it's not for fans of Novak Djokovic and Serbs'. Anyone who says I'm wrong is a liar. From head to feet.

Now, once again - administrators, do they live here? Not mods, most of them is payed off.

To add: How to get rid of me/us? Ban is easiest way. Sh*t happens all the time.

Would you like some cheese with your whine?

This thread asks a perfectly legitimate question, and it's no different to Clay Death's many hypothetical threads which you enjoy participating in.

My opinion is that Djokovic surely will achieve an impressive scalp on grass or clay, as many have said, he's only 21 so you have to expect him to improve on these surfaces over the next couple of years. He's clearly not as confident on grass as he is on hardcourts. Sunday's loss was pretty harsh for him, I'm sure he felt confident going into that match that quicker surface = put Nadal on the back foot, but it just didn't work out that way. He will have learnt a lot though.

Farenhajt
06-17-2008, 03:15 PM
Of course not. The only reason Djokovic is accepted to the tour is because the father pays handsome fee to Disney personally (and also for all the draws to be rigged). Otherwise he's a complete loser, not having a slightest clue on tennis.

rocketassist
06-17-2008, 03:23 PM
funny how you dont mention Clay Death and Rafa=Fed Killa, the biggest 2 clowns of this board

edit. sorry i forgot Bad Religion

Bad Religion is technically the biggest clown on here because he's the finalist of last year's ACC, the winner is perma-banned so...

Fedex
06-17-2008, 09:37 PM
negative. if he had any balls at all, he would have entered Barcelona rather than Estoril. look where Estoril got him.

same with Halle. why not meet the top dogs at Queens?

Again, you are changing the topic to avoid answering the question. This thread isn't about Federer. It's about Djokovic and his inability to beat quality opponents on grass and clay.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 09:40 PM
Don't answer if question is (un)intentionally stupid.
Don't anwser coz if you do that you're the same as them.
Don't answer if some lonely jerk have no his own life (at most in his/hers early 20es).

Or (if you can and get nerves) be camnation or Alex999 or Lee.

N.B. This forum 'never heard' of administrators or I'm wrong?

How much I have to pay to kiss admin or some mod ass?
How much is needed to be truly retarded to make admin take a move?
How to become L_mac, Glenn, Blaze, Fedex, leng_jai, sapri(whatever),Prima dona, fast_clay, Albop (registered fan of Djokovic)...How to become one of these scary persons?

If you manage (somehow) to become one of them you'll live 100 brainless years. Happilly of course.

How to recognize virtual 'friend'? He/she claims you're friends but your guts tells you something diferent.

During th WW II it was - 'it's not for Gypsies, Serbs and Yews', now 'it's not for fans of Novak Djokovic and Serbs'. Anyone who says I'm wrong is a liar. From head to feet.

Now, once again - administrators, do they live here? Not mods, most of them is payed off.

To add: How to get rid of me/us? Ban is easiest way. Sh*t happens all the time.

All of that typing and so little substance.

Aloimeh
06-17-2008, 10:03 PM
Again, you are changing the topic to avoid answering the question. This thread isn't about Federer. It's about Djokovic and his inability to beat quality opponents on grass and clay.

Very intelligent analysis. Djokovic has never played Fed on grass. He's played Nadal twice and lost twice. First time he was injured. This time, it was a tight match, 7-6 7-5.

At Wimbledon last year he beat everyone else in his path before he hit Nadal. And the same happened at Queens, but it was much closer.

From two matches against Nadal, one of which may not entirely count due to injury and the other one pretty close, you're drawing the conclusion that Djokovic will never beat Nadal or Fed on grass?

Let me tell you something, as a scientist, that no statistical test, not even the least rigorous, would drawing conclusions on the basis of N=2 data points.

This discussion has absolutely no place here whatsoever. If you want to discuss clay, that's another matter, but for grass there's simply no evidence to support even your question, much less the implied conclusion that you're trying to forcefeed everyone.

prima donna
06-17-2008, 10:21 PM
Very intelligent analysis. Djokovic has never played Fed on grass. He's played Nadal twice and lost twice. First time he was injured. This time, it was a tight match, 7-6 7-5.

:spit::spit:

Aloimeh
06-17-2008, 10:25 PM
:spit::spit:

Bashing mode: Funny how he won more games in that match than Fed did in FO 2008. :spit:

Serious mode: It's still N=2 and statistically insignificant, especially given the less-than-rigorous circumstances of the first "observation," so to speak.

Clay Death
06-17-2008, 10:27 PM
Very intelligent analysis. Djokovic has never played Fed on grass. He's played Nadal twice and lost twice. First time he was injured. This time, it was a tight match, 7-6 7-5.

At Wimbledon last year he beat everyone else in his path before he hit Nadal. And the same happened at Queens, but it was much closer.

From two matches against Nadal, one of which may not entirely count due to injury and the other one pretty close, you're drawing the conclusion that Djokovic will never beat Nadal or Fed on grass?

Let me tell you something, as a scientist, that no statistical test, not even the least rigorous, would drawing conclusions on the basis of N=2 data points.

This discussion has absolutely no place here whatsoever. If you want to discuss clay, that's another matter, but for grass there's simply no evidence to support even your question, much less the implied conclusion that you're trying to forcefeed everyone.


affirmative. sample size is negligible to be able to draw any reliable conclusions.

its usually the Federereeeeeeeeeesians that put together remarks that border on total ridiculosity.

l_mac
06-17-2008, 10:41 PM
Manon, I am touched still to be head of your clown list :D Keeping ahead of Glenn is quite the accomplishment for me.

Of course not. The only reason Djokovic is accepted to the tour is because the father pays handsome fee to Disney personally (and also for all the draws to be rigged). Otherwise he's a complete loser, not having a slightest clue on tennis.
:lol:

But you're wrong. Mr Disney saw in Nole the potential to create a great "story" - we know how much he wants to tell stories :inlove: Here's a guy from a war torn country, who grew up hungry for success. He looks like an actor - okay, that actor is the guy who plays Screech in Saved By The Bell but you can't have everything - he speaks great English, and he luvluvluvs the spotlight.

Mtr Disney gets a few tennis writers to admire Nole's game. Nole wins a few tournaments. He gets an easy draw at the FO. He battles against all the odds at Wimbledon. Reaches #3 in the world. He beats Rafa and fed to win Montreal. He showcases his talent for mocking others at USO. He wins AO :worship: Mr Disney's hand looms large in everything.

Very intelligent analysis. Djokovic has never played Fed on grass. He's played Nadal twice and lost twice. First time he was injured. This time, it was a tight match, 7-6 7-5.

At Wimbledon last year he beat everyone else in his path before he hit Nadal. And the same happened at Queens, but it was much closer.

From two matches against Nadal, one of which may not entirely count due to injury and the other one pretty close, you're drawing the conclusion that Djokovic will never beat Nadal or Fed on grass?


Hey Alo. When did you realise Nole wasn't going to beat Rafa on Sunday? I knew after the lost the 1st set that I coulsd start watching again. You were confident going in, right? Do you think he can beat Rafa at Wimbledon this year if they play each other? (again, seems like so many matches already this year)

Johnny Groove
06-17-2008, 10:51 PM
Manon, I am touched still to be head of your clown list :D Keeping ahead of Glenn is quite the accomplishment for me.

Funny how in his clown list, you are the Federer, Glenn is the Nadal, and i am the Djokovic :lol:

theblejach
06-17-2008, 10:59 PM
No he won't. He sucks.
sign :devil:

luie
06-17-2008, 11:20 PM
Funny how in his clown list, you are the Federer, Glenn is the Nadal, and i am the Djokovic :lol:
It's really sad man,,that you have to be djokovic...

Fedex
06-17-2008, 11:46 PM
Very intelligent analysis. Djokovic has never played Fed on grass. He's played Nadal twice and lost twice. First time he was injured. This time, it was a tight match, 7-6 7-5.

At Wimbledon last year he beat everyone else in his path before he hit Nadal. And the same happened at Queens, but it was much closer.

From two matches against Nadal, one of which may not entirely count due to injury and the other one pretty close, you're drawing the conclusion that Djokovic will never beat Nadal or Fed on grass?

Let me tell you something, as a scientist, that no statistical test, not even the least rigorous, would drawing conclusions on the basis of N=2 data points.

This discussion has absolutely no place here whatsoever. If you want to discuss clay, that's another matter, but for grass there's simply no evidence to support even your question, much less the implied conclusion that you're trying to forcefeed everyone.

The facts are that Nole has beaten few, if any, quality opponents on grass or clay. The question is whether he will finally defeat some in the near future. It's not rocket science, Mr. Scientist.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 11:49 PM
affirmative. sample size is negligible to be able to draw any reliable conclusions.

its usually the Federereeeeeeeeeesians that put together remarks that border on total ridiculosity.

No such word. Try again, Death of Sanity.

Fedex
06-17-2008, 11:49 PM
It's really sad man,,that you have to be djokovic...

Yeah, that's a total lack of respect shown to Blaze. :(

Clay Death
06-17-2008, 11:56 PM
No such word. Try again, Death of Sanity.


really now. Clay Death invents words as he goes also but do check a good dictionary and you will find that such a word does exist.