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Queen's semi, Nadal vs Roddick: WWW?

~*BGT*~
06-13-2008, 02:15 PM
Hopefully a great match. :rocker2:

Nacho
06-13-2008, 02:19 PM
as much as I would love Rafa to win, I think Andy will win

Rafa will be tired and Andy will be much fresher since he got a walk over

still It would be awesome if rafa manages to beat 2 big serves on grass in a row :yeah:

Clydey
06-13-2008, 02:20 PM
Another tough one. Great field at Queens this year. Going for Rafa. He looks to be playing well and Roddick still needs a few more matches.

TMJordan
06-13-2008, 02:20 PM
The luck will end now for sir pig.

General Suburbia
06-13-2008, 02:21 PM
Rafa's played too much. Roddick hasn't played enough. I'd say Nadal has the edge; this isn't a super fast hard court like Dubai.

rocketassist
06-13-2008, 02:22 PM
Andy will need to serve well because he won't want any long rallies.

As for Nadal being tired, why would he be? He pissed RG hardly breaking sweat, and Karlovic isn't the most tiring opponent to play as there are hardly any rallies.

Roddick to win in 3 I think.

bokehlicious
06-13-2008, 02:24 PM
Nadal

Rafalover15
06-13-2008, 02:26 PM
Don't mind who win hope it's a great match

Maybe i know ;)

jenanun
06-13-2008, 02:26 PM
nadal will be tired?
he just stood there waiting for ace to be fired down. how tired could that be?

anyway, nadal in 3

Art&Soul
06-13-2008, 02:26 PM
Ducky over Piggy

federernadalfan
06-13-2008, 02:29 PM
nadal will probably win, but i won't mind if andy won since rafa defends his points here and he can feel refreshed before heading to wimbledon

Bibberz
06-13-2008, 02:29 PM
as much as I would love Rafa to win, I think Andy will win

Rafa will be tired and Andy will be much fresher since he got a walk over

still It would be awesome if rafa manages to beat 2 big serves on grass in a row :yeah:

It's not like Rafa played a lot of rallies. If he loses, it won't be because he's tired.

Clara Bow
06-13-2008, 02:29 PM
Although I would love to see Rafa make the final here- I have to go with Andy. This is his tournament. (Well he and Lleyton)

BigJohn
06-13-2008, 02:33 PM
This should be a great one. I'll go with Roddick.

OnyxRose
06-13-2008, 02:33 PM
I'm going to still be dedicated and say Andy.

Horatio Caine
06-13-2008, 02:33 PM
Well, Roddick is a bit more dangerous than Karlovic in the rallies, so I could see him getting sniff of a break or two...but really I've been largely unimpressed by Roddick this week, and I'm sure much of that is down to his physical state more than anything.

DDrago2
06-13-2008, 02:34 PM
Nadal not a favourite in this one. But I just have the feeling Roddick also has a bit of mental issues with Nadal! I'm not sure why

Erica86
06-13-2008, 02:36 PM
The luck will end now for sir pig.

Karlovic never lost his serve, Nadal never lost his nerve.
That is not luck, that is called "BOTTLE".

Sunset of Age
06-13-2008, 02:36 PM
Nadal not a favourite in this one.

I'm not so sure about that. ;)

But I just have the feeling Roddick also has a bit of mental issues with Nadal! I'm not sure why

I think Roddick has more of an issue with Rafa's level of playing. :D

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 02:38 PM
Although I would love to see Rafa make the final here- I have to go with Andy. This is his tournament. (Well he and Lleyton)


negative. wrong again as usual. Roddick`s serve is more predictable and he cant possibly fire 35 aces at around 140 MPH for over 2 hours. the shoulder could act up.

Clay Monster is a lot sharper off the ground on this miserable, slick grass that is not even fit cows.

dont be surprised if Nadal guns him down in straight sets.

anon57
06-13-2008, 02:39 PM
I'm not sure Roddick will be able to serve as well as Karlovic did today but Roddick should be more dangerous in the rally's. And although Roddick's always done well in Queens, I'd give the edge to Nadal in this match.

shotgun
06-13-2008, 02:39 PM
Roddick is one of the very few players on the tour that can match Nadal in terms of mental strenght.

tennizen
06-13-2008, 02:41 PM
I think Roddick in straights. Piggy's run ends here.

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 02:43 PM
Roddick is one of the very few players on the tour that can match Nadal in terms of mental strenght.


right. that is why Roddick has been killed by Fed for about 100,000 times.

it must be his mental toughness that makes it possible for him to lose so diligently time and again to Fed.

sunsfuns
06-13-2008, 02:46 PM
I think this is Andy land. Roddick in straight.

shotgun
06-13-2008, 02:47 PM
right. that is why Roddick has been killed by Fed for about 100,000 times.

it must be his mental toughness that makes it possible for him to lose so diligently time and again to Fed.

How many players would have been able to beat Federer after stepping on the court being 1-15 head-to-head against him? Not many, I suppose.

sunsfuns
06-13-2008, 02:48 PM
right. that is why Roddick has been killed by Fed for about 100,000 times.

it must be his mental toughness that makes it possible for him to lose so diligently time and again to Fed.

No it's because tehnically he has no answers to Fed and Roger is even stronger mentally.

Nadal will not be able to break Roddick either and Andy's return game is much better than Ivo's.

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 02:53 PM
No it's because tehnically he has no answers to Fed and Roger is even stronger mentally.

Nadal will not be able to break Roddick either and Andy's return game is much better than Ivo's.


watch and learn. there is no tougher animal on the planet than the Clay Monster. i think he smells blood.

and you are right. Roddick does have a better return than Ivo but that doesnt mean anything now. that return is not agressive enough or consistent enough for Nadal.

Bibberz
06-13-2008, 02:55 PM
right. that is why Roddick has been killed by Fed for about 100,000 times.

it must be his mental toughness that makes it possible for him to lose so diligently time and again to Fed.

You make it seem like getting owned by Federer means a player lacks mental strength. I suppose Hewitt lacks mental strength as well?

Spes
06-13-2008, 02:56 PM
I think Rafa wins, but hopefully I am wrong.

sunsfuns
06-13-2008, 02:58 PM
watch and learn. there is no tougher animal on the planet than the Clay Monster. i think he smells blood.

and you are right. Roddick does have a better return than Ivo but that doesnt mean anything now. that return is not agressive enough or consistent enough for Nadal.

It was good enough in Dubai.

Manon
06-13-2008, 04:54 PM
This should be a great one. I'll go with Roddick.

We'll go together:wavey:

bluefork
06-13-2008, 05:00 PM
I'll pick Nadal by retirement.

Forehander
06-13-2008, 05:01 PM
Roddick is pretty lethal on grass with his serve. It'sa 50/50 chance but I'd pick Roddick to win this. Though he got defeated by Gasquet last year in Wimby, but I gotta say Richard sorta pulled it off by luck since he was down a break in the third before he came back. He got defeated by Mahut in Queens sure, but Mahut is a serve and volley, sorta a percentage tennis.

DUN I LOVE
06-13-2008, 05:04 PM
I think Roddick will win.
Nadal has a big advantage - he played more matches on grass than Andy - it could be important tommorow.

LinkMage
06-13-2008, 05:06 PM
Nadal's never ending luck will continue.

tennizen
06-13-2008, 05:08 PM
Why is Nadal leading in this poll. Roddick will take this in straights.

LleytonMonfils
06-13-2008, 05:13 PM
This is a big match for Roddick. A win over Nadal will give him a great boost of confidence for upcoming Wimbledon. He really needs this more than Nadal, so I'm going with A-Rod!

Fedex
06-13-2008, 05:27 PM
I'll take the Pig in three sets. This pig loves grass and Roddick's serve won't be as big a factor.

Fedex
06-13-2008, 05:28 PM
Nadal's never ending luck will continue.

Impeccable logic as always.

tangerine_dream
06-13-2008, 05:34 PM
We have forgotten that this will be a match between two 2x Wimbledon finalists, the current second-best grass players. When I look at it that way I am more intrigued by the end result.

Fedex
06-13-2008, 05:39 PM
We have forgotten that this will be a match between two 2x Wimbledon finalists, the current second-best grass players. When I look at it that way I am more intrigued by the end result.

These two players rarely meet too, so that in itself makes the match intriguing. I'm shocked that these two players have only met 4 times, given that they are two of the most successful players of the past 5 years.

I'll give Nadal the edge at this point; this grass is really suitable for his ground game............ Of course Roddick could still serve him off the court too.

HarryMan
06-13-2008, 05:42 PM
Should be a good test for both players of where they stand on grass today. Nadal has proved that he is the second best player on grass for the last two years, Roddick held that spot for the two seasons prior to that.

I hope Roddick has recovered fully and we get a proper complete match between these two.:)

Jagermeister
06-13-2008, 05:42 PM
I'll go with Rafa if only because Andy hasn't been all that sharp this week and probably hasn't shaken off that bit of rust from his time off due to injury. Rafa held tough against Karlovic and fatigue shouldn't be an issue this year since he won RG so comfortably.

arm
06-13-2008, 05:43 PM
Easy one.

Roddick = Karlovic + better receiving and rally skills..

:shrug: It seems obvious to me...

Fedex
06-13-2008, 05:46 PM
Roddick = Karlovic + better receiving and rally skills..



Not exactly, but continue to be ignorant.

arm
06-13-2008, 05:46 PM
Not exactly, but continue to be ignorant.

:lol: I will, honey. I will. ;)

Fedex
06-13-2008, 05:51 PM
:lol: I will, honey. I will. ;)

Good. Society needs you. If everyone was smart and brilliant like myself, it would be an unbalanced and imperfect world. We need you people to level things out. :)

arm
06-13-2008, 05:51 PM
:haha:

Your self confidence is as good as mine. (If I wasn't self confident I would be bother when you called me ignorant. ;))

lurker
06-13-2008, 05:54 PM
We have forgotten that this will be a match between two 2x Wimbledon finalists, the current second-best grass players. When I look at it that way I am more intrigued by the end result.

This match has more significance than that. It could also be that the result plays an important role in that mental battle between Djokovic and Nadal for the number 2 ranking, as well as the lead in the ATP race this year. It seems as if there is this unspoken competition between the two who gets the farthest here, and if they face each other in the final...FIREWORKS!!! Who has more to lose by losing to the other here?

Fedex
06-13-2008, 05:55 PM
:haha:

Your self confidence is as good as mine. (If I wasn't self confident I would be bother when you called me ignorant. ;))

Success breeds confidence, I guess.

And you shouldn't have been bothered when I called you ignorant. You should be aware.

Andi-M
06-13-2008, 06:16 PM
Nadal in 2

DTJ
06-13-2008, 06:20 PM
3 sets , one tiebreak, nadal

arm
06-13-2008, 06:22 PM
Success breeds confidence, I guess.

And you shouldn't have been bothered when I called you ignorant. You should be aware.

I told you! I wasn't bothered. ;) But just tell me why you think I am wrong. :shrug:

I am always learning.. :shrug:

10nisfan
06-13-2008, 06:25 PM
WOW... It's 50%/50% as of Now... Interesting that PPL are having More Confidence in Rafa after He Beat Ivo... :scratch:

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 06:27 PM
3 sets , one tiebreak, nadal


thats it. simple enough. i wont be surprised if its the Clay monster in straight sets. he is sharp enough now.

Roddick is not in the same league.

Pablin777
06-13-2008, 06:36 PM
Nadal 50%-50% Roddick
Wow!! Huge Tie...

joăo.
06-13-2008, 06:42 PM
Roddick.

finishingmove
06-13-2008, 06:45 PM
How many players would have been able to beat Federer after stepping on the court being 1-15 head-to-head against him? Not many, I suppose.

:worship: nobody beats andy roddick 12 times in a row :worship:

:rolls:

roddick - djokovic final

Herdwick
06-13-2008, 06:48 PM
Rafa for this one; grass notwithstanding. Andy may be rusty. And Rafa is still in his simply refusing to lose mode.

Corey Feldman
06-13-2008, 06:59 PM
who would i rather see win from these 2?

thats like asking if i'd rather have an arm or leg chopped off

Mansave_75
06-13-2008, 07:00 PM
Rafa in three sets 7-6,5-7,6-4. :)

Tom_Bombadil
06-13-2008, 07:28 PM
No it's because tehnically he has no answers to Fed and Roger is even stronger mentally.

Nadal will not be able to break Roddick either and Andy's return game is much better than Ivo's.

Well, I can see Roger's genuine and beautiful tennis and unprecedented skills for this sport... but I can't see in any way his mental toughness when he lost 6-1 6-3 6-0 in the final of RG and looked defeated from the first set till the end of the match. In my book that's not mental toughness.

mashamaniac
06-13-2008, 07:46 PM
What's the order of play for saturday?? hope eurosport will show this match!!! hopefully rafa will win it...

rofe
06-13-2008, 08:03 PM
Well, I can see Roger's genuine and beautiful tennis and unprecedented skills for this sport... but I can't see in any way his mental toughness when he lost 6-1 6-3 6-0 in the final of RG and looked defeated from the first set till the end of the match. In my book that's not mental toughness.

To be fair, Nadal was in the zone in the final. None of Fed's skills could have stopped him that day. If you want an example of Fed's lack of mental toughness this year, you should look no further than MC and Hamburg. He had chances to close the gate on Nadal in both matches and mentally broke down.

Anyway, as far as this match is concerned, I give the edge to Nadal. Dubai is a medium fast HC and Queens is a medium speed grass (natural) court. Nadal feels a lot more comfortable with his movement on natural surfaces so he should be able to put pressure on some of Andy's serve games which should be enough to get the win. There may be a tie-break but again, like he did today, Nadal should be able to block back a few serves to take control of the rally and the TB.

Merton
06-13-2008, 08:06 PM
I think Andy wins here but either way the outcome has no consequences for these two at Wimbledon.

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 08:14 PM
I think Andy wins here but either way the outcome has no consequences for these two at Wimbledon.


you may want to explain why Andy wins here old sport.

i dont think he has a chance unless Nadal stinks up the court tomorrow for some strange reason.

Nadal is plenty sharp enough so early on grass to take out Roddick. Roddick is NOT the 2nd best grass court player in the world. remember who has made 2 straight finals at Wimby.

what does Roddick have beside that serve that can hurt Nadal? Nadal showed today that even 35 aces and someone never losing his serve is not enough against him if he wants the match bad enough. and nadal wanted the match bad enough.

all the clowns would have given up. Roddick is toast tomorrow and he knows it. you can save this post if you like.

there is also a revenge factor in play. Nadal did lose to him in Dubai on hard courts. we all know that Nadal cannot play on hard courts so he exacts some measure of revenge on grass.

the clay monster will also kill him in september (davis cup) on clay at home. Roddick doesnt have a prayer on clay against him.

memo to Roddick: Pray for death. the Clay Monster cometh.

Fedex
06-13-2008, 08:34 PM
Well, I can see Roger's genuine and beautiful tennis and unprecedented skills for this sport... but I can't see in any way his mental toughness when he lost 6-1 6-3 6-0 in the final of RG and looked defeated from the first set till the end of the match. In my book that's not mental toughness.

On clay and against Nadal, Federer lacks mental toughness. I agree. But in any other situation, Federer is as tough mentally as they come.

ASP0315
06-13-2008, 08:42 PM
there is no way roddick is winning this.
nadal with 6-3 6-4

oz_boz
06-13-2008, 08:46 PM
Nadal still underestimated on grass - the only one of the youngsters who can move on the stuff. As long as his fh cannot be attacked cc, or his weak 2nd serve capitalized on, he can get the W. I say Rafa in 3.

Well, I can see Roger's genuine and beautiful tennis and unprecedented skills for this sport... but I can't see in any way his mental toughness when he lost 6-1 6-3 6-0 in the final of RG and looked defeated from the first set till the end of the match. In my book that's not mental toughness.

:lol: Mental toughness was not the problem there, sheer ability made the difference. Just like in any of Nalby's demolitions of Nadal indoors - the so called fucking animal was pretty tame there. Fed beaten from the baseline on a slow surface, or Nadal getting overpowered cc on his fh: they have no chance of winning the match and know it too well themselves.

Roddickominator
06-13-2008, 08:48 PM
Andy will win if he brings his aggressive A-game. If not, he'll have a fight on his hands. Unfortunately, Andy hasn't looked particularly impressive these first few matches. He should know that he'll have to turn it up against Nadal. Roddick in 3.

Indiana-4
06-13-2008, 08:48 PM
Roddick:cool:

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 08:55 PM
there is no way roddick is winning this.
nadal with 6-3 6-4


the worst possible scenario tomorrow is that Roddick takes the first set while Nadal warms up and gets a good read on Roddick`s serve and his game. also, Nadal is a bit of a slow starter and it takes him a set to find his range and his rhythm.

Nadal may lose the first set but after that, he is going to tear Roddick apart.

given Clay Monster`s current form, Roddick doesnt stand a chance tomorrow.

Havok
06-13-2008, 09:12 PM
I think I`d want Roddick to win tomorrow being a fan of his just as much as seeing Clay Death`s posts go to shit.

Andy`s coming back from a long lay-off due to injuries. Grass is his best surface, Nadal is not too bad on the green stuff. Tough to decide, 50/50 just like the poll states.

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 09:16 PM
I think I`d want Roddick to win tomorrow being a fan of his just as much as seeing Clay Death`s posts go to shit.

Andy`s coming back from a long lay-off due to injuries. Grass is his best surface, Nadal is not too bad on the green stuff. Tough to decide, 50/50 just like the poll states.

Clay Death is usually right.

why are you making excuses already for Roddick? go ahead and put together a few more while you are at it because Roddick doesnt have a chance tomorrow.

if i thought Roddick was the favorite for tomorrow`s showdown against the Clay Monster, i would have said it. i am basing it on current form. also. its high time people realize that Roddick is not in the same league with the Clay Monster.
you can get him on hard courts obviously or even fast indoor hard courts but its a different story on other surfaces.

Vida
06-13-2008, 09:20 PM
quite possible CD ....... but Roddick is no Ivo, who has a sponge for a brain. Besides, more is on the line for ARod. He hasn't been playing that much and needs to prove that his serve is worth something against such seemingly 'serveless' player Nadal is. Nadal wouldn't particularly mind to have couple of days extra rest, esp because he's been busting his balls lately, unlike Roddick.

Also Roddick can hurt people of the ground a bit.

Personally I will be mostly interested on forehands of the two. Both use same Babolat I believe, just Nadal, apart having most extreme grips of them all, holds racket at the near end. Andy, on the other hand, grabs it couple of inches higher and is unable to make enough swing as Rafa can. Will be interesting how that translates in their grass dtl match-up due to low balls.

ARod 76 75

Black Adam
06-13-2008, 09:22 PM
Queens grass is faster than at Wimbledon. I will go with Andy on this one, but I am a bit worried that the killer snap to his serve hasn't returned.

P.S. Nadal tries to strike the ball when returning against Andy, when he should do the Federer and Nalbandian thing to just block the ball back and engage a rally.

Andi-M
06-13-2008, 09:24 PM
Roddick can hardly be prepared for the match he's played 4 sets all tournament against 2 mugs.

Nadal has played progressively better oppanants in every round and is in a real rhythm.

Roddick will have to do something special here i think.

Bilbo
06-13-2008, 09:26 PM
A. Roddick should clinch it

Roddickominator
06-13-2008, 09:28 PM
Roddick can hardly be prepared for the match he's played 4 sets all tournament against 2 mugs.

Nadal has played progressively better oppanants in every round and is in a real rhythm.

Roddick will have to do something special here i think.

Yeah...you can bet that Nadal won't chicken out, or get a "thumb injury" out of nowhere. For certain, Andy must play well. But Nadal was a few points away from losing to Ivo Karlovic(Ivo actually won more points), so lets be real here. Andy has much more than "no chance".

Rafalover15
06-13-2008, 09:37 PM
Nadal to win this one

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 09:46 PM
Roddick can hardly be prepared for the match he's played 4 sets all tournament against 2 mugs.

Nadal has played progressively better oppanants in every round and is in a real rhythm.

Roddick will have to do something special here i think.

spot on.

tangerine_dream
06-13-2008, 09:48 PM
I went to Oddschecker and they say:

Rafael Nadal (4/5)
Andy Roddick (5/4)

So I take it this makes Nadal the slight favorite here?

Merton
06-13-2008, 09:51 PM
I went to Oddschecker and they say:

Rafael Nadal (4/5)
Andy Roddick (5/4)

So I take it this makes Nadal the slight favorite here?

Implied probabilities from betfair:

Nadal 57%
Roddick 43%

Nadal appears as the slight favourite.

10nisfan
06-13-2008, 09:53 PM
I went to Oddschecker and they say:

Rafael Nadal (4/5)
Andy Roddick (5/4)

So I take it this makes Nadal the slight favorite here?

During RG, someone said that at some betting site, they Favored Fedex and Djoker over Nadull... and Look what Happened!.. :lol:

... hope this Oddschecker is Right on the Money this time!... :scratch:

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 10:05 PM
Implied probabilities from betfair:

Nadal 57%
Roddick 43%

Nadal appears as the slight favourite.

there you have it. so part of those probabilities are you having the most trouble with?

i would assign a lower probability to Roddick winning tomorrow given the present dynamics.

remember that i say NOTHING that is not already being said in the tennis circles around the globe. even then, i have to see with my own eyes. i saw a very sharp Nadal today. he will be very hard to handle tomorrow. Roddick didnt have to play today and this will hurt him tomorrow. worse, even Fishy left early in the previous match. and then you have that shoulder injury and some back issues. Roddick doesnt stand much of chance right now. its all about Nadal. its a close match only if Nadal is off and he is not going to be off.

Tnn74
06-13-2008, 11:54 PM
Rafa is probably more tired mentally than physically...
anyway... good luck Rafa against the serving machine :hug:
I would love to see him win Queens, but at the same time,
I wouldn't be heartbroken if he loses tomorrow so he could rest...

dkw
06-14-2008, 12:16 AM
I said Nadal... no reason - just wanted to even out the voting at 76/76

dkw
06-14-2008, 12:19 AM
I went to Oddschecker and they say:

Rafael Nadal (4/5)
Andy Roddick (5/4)

So I take it this makes Nadal the slight favorite here?

Tangy your signature doesn't make one bit of sense - when Federer is old, he'll be grey.. but still ugly.

Borg was, is and in diapers and a wheelchair will always be a hottie :)

tangerine_dream
06-14-2008, 12:32 AM
Tangy your signature doesn't make one bit of sense - when Federer is old, he'll be grey.. but still ugly.

Borg was, is and in diapers and a wheelchair will always be a hottie :)
Do you want to take this outside? :armed: I think Borg looks so much better now than he did when he was younger.

http://www.vincecoombs.co.uk/Vince/images/heros/bjorn_borg.jpg

But, this was the 70s, nobody looked good back then. Except for maybe Farrah.

I don't think Roger is ugly by any means (not like Murray is). I think he will age well like Borg did. We will see in 30 years. :cool:

seljanin
06-14-2008, 12:36 AM
Well, one thing, what Andy really needs, is a good grass court match practice, and I hope he will get one tomorrow. Half-match with Fishy and today's w/o have done more harm than good, IMHO.

Actually, being a huge AndyFan, I don't even care so much, if he wins or loses tomorrow. I hope that he will get a good grass court match practise and that the match will be a long 3-setter. Of course, it would be nice to pocket Queen's trophy for the 5th time, but a good preparation for Wimby is more important at the moment.

Tough to say, how the match will go. If Andy was 100% fit, I would put him as a small favorite in this particular match-up. However, given all the circumstances, I think that the odds are pretty fair, and Nadal is a small favorite tonmorrow.

jcempire
06-14-2008, 01:05 AM
Hopefully a great match. :rocker2:

Should be very close match

I hope Roddick take it

ReturnWinner
06-14-2008, 01:05 AM
Nadal in a tight match.

Gulbis-Mahut
06-14-2008, 01:24 AM
How many of you Roddick voters have actually seen an entire match at Queens this year? Roddick was struggling a bit against average grass players (Fish/Ginepri) and got an escape walkover when Andy Murray withdrew.

Nadal has beaten solid veteran Bjorkman easily, up and coming youngster Nishikori and Dr. Ivo aka "Unreturnable serve". And guess what? HE'S STILL JUST WARMING UP!

I've seen four of their matches live (Roddick vs. Fish/Ginepri, Nadal vs. Nishikori/Karlovic) and I can tell you that Nadal will win 75% of the rallies between the two. Roddick will need his big serve if he plans on staying close, but he won't be able to break Rafa's serve.

Best case scenario for Andy Roddick:
He wins the first set through tie-break, but Nadal will recover and settle things in three: 6-7, 6-4, 6-4.

MIMIC
06-14-2008, 01:47 AM
LOL...the poll is still 50/50

Jimnik
06-14-2008, 01:57 AM
It's potentially a great match-up with perfect contrast in styles. Hopefully it'll be the 5th of many meetings.

RAndy in three.

dsingh7
06-14-2008, 02:01 AM
If Andy serve and forehand is on..he will take it.. Rafa does not get as much time as he gets in clay to put the ball back in play...its going to be close though

Clay Death
06-14-2008, 02:08 AM
How many of you Roddick voters have actually seen an entire match at Queens this year? Roddick was struggling a bit against average grass players (Fish/Ginepri) and got an escape walkover when Andy Murray withdrew.

Nadal has beaten solid veteran Bjorkman easily, up and coming youngster Nishikori and Dr. Ivo aka "Unreturnable serve". And guess what? HE'S STILL JUST WARMING UP!

I've seen four of their matches live (Roddick vs. Fish/Ginepri, Nadal vs. Nishikori/Karlovic) and I can tell you that Nadal will win 75% of the rallies between the two. Roddick will need his big serve if he plans on staying close, but he won't be able to break Rafa's serve.

Best case scenario for Andy Roddick:
He wins the first set through tie-break, but Nadal will recover and settle things in three: 6-7, 6-4, 6-4.


that is the way i am seeing it.

raven gypsy
06-14-2008, 02:50 AM
who would i rather see win from these 2?

thats like asking if i'd rather have an arm or leg chopped off


Have you decided? :angel:

either way, gonna be a tough match, no? :D

Havok
06-14-2008, 02:59 AM
Clay Death is usually right.

why are you making excuses already for Roddick? go ahead and put together a few more while you are at it because Roddick doesnt have a chance tomorrow.

if i thought Roddick was the favorite for tomorrow`s showdown against the Clay Monster, i would have said it. i am basing it on current form. also. its high time people realize that Roddick is not in the same league with the Clay Monster.
you can get him on hard courts obviously or even fast indoor hard courts but its a different story on other surfaces.

I'm not making any excuses. It's Andy's 1st tournament back since Rome, which was about an entire month ago. I was just taking that into consideration when weighing who has more of a shot. Hence why imo it can easily go either way, and the results of this poll so far say the same thing.

As long as you stay true to your word no matter what happens tomorrow, all is well.:)

On a side not, it seems as though you are the one who is already lining up excuses. You've mentioned on more than one occasion the only way Nadal loses is if he doesn't play well/plays like shit. That, my friend, is an excuse. Simply stating the fact that one is coming off an injury when weighing either ors chances of winning this match is not.

wilmar
06-14-2008, 03:10 AM
pretty close to call.

but I tend to favour Nadal slightly. if Nadal can weather the Karlo-ace typhoon yesterday, can't see why he can't weather the A-Rod tornado.

Roddick may have a better chance if his first serve is working. but if it drags to 3 sets, Nadal will surely have the edge despite more hours on court.

Clay Death
06-14-2008, 03:25 AM
pretty close to call.

but I tend to favour Nadal slightly. if Nadal can weather the Karlo-ace typhoon yesterday, can't see why he can't weather the A-Rod tornado.

Roddick may have a better chance if his first serve is working. but if it drags to 3 sets, Nadal will surely have the edge despite more hours on court.

if Nadal gets off to a great start, he steamrolls. if Roddick manages to win the first set, Nadal destroys him in the next 2.

either way, take your pick. Nadal is the winner tomorrow.

General Suburbia
06-14-2008, 03:38 AM
Disregard what I said before.

Tennis will win.

Knightmace
06-14-2008, 04:32 AM
I give Roddick the edge, in another tough three set match.

RogiRafaFan86
06-14-2008, 04:44 AM
I really thought Rafa would lose in the Quarters like he usually does, so I won't totally change my line of thinking now. He won't tank, of course, but from his post-match interview it sounds like he really wants to go home. An extra day might or might not make much of a difference, but still. He passed his big server on grass test, so it's all good.

~Jin~
06-14-2008, 06:59 AM
Andy

groundstroke
06-14-2008, 10:41 AM
Roddick. In 2 sets.

Corey Feldman
06-14-2008, 12:01 PM
should be Nadalita in 2 easy sets

6-4 6-4

sphiie
06-14-2008, 12:10 PM
Rafael. I hope SO.

Clay Death
06-14-2008, 01:37 PM
Roddick. In 2 sets.

have you ever been right?

Corey Feldman
06-14-2008, 11:25 PM
I was close ..

now i'll give my views on Nole-Rafa final ...