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Rafael Nadal def Ivo small Karlovic 6-7 7-6 7-6

A_Skywalker
06-13-2008, 03:14 PM
Well... a win is a win ;)

MIMIC
06-13-2008, 03:14 PM
Karlovic had 35 aces, IIRC. Wow.

scoobs
06-13-2008, 03:14 PM
Vamos!!!

Well done Rafa - had to stay very tough in those breakers - 1 double fault threw the first one away but well played in the next two.

TMJordan
06-13-2008, 03:14 PM
Never ending luck for this Nadal.

schorsch
06-13-2008, 03:15 PM
Damn lucky spaniard.

Stupid Ivo for choking :mad:

Sean.J.S.
06-13-2008, 03:16 PM
35 Aces from Karlovic. Ewww!

The Kaz
06-13-2008, 03:16 PM
Nadal :woohoo:

Excellent win over "The Serve" ;)

GL against AndyR

Nacho
06-13-2008, 03:16 PM
man I hate grass, only aces and aces

well done Rafa :yeah:

Rafalover15
06-13-2008, 03:16 PM
:woohoo:

Survived

His smile is enchanting . Am in love :inlove:

Loftra
06-13-2008, 03:16 PM
Watching 2,5 hours for nothing:fiery:

~*BGT*~
06-13-2008, 03:16 PM
Vamos Rafa... for now ;)

SloKid
06-13-2008, 03:16 PM
Some of Ivo's shots. :o If it weren't for the serve...

I'm sure Voo will provide plenty of statistical info once he recovers from the enjoyment this match brought to him.

tennizen
06-13-2008, 03:16 PM
High quality grass court tennis this:yeah:

screaminhead
06-13-2008, 03:17 PM
Wow, that was tight. I was willing for karlovic to fall flat on his face at least coz I think that was the only chance Nadal has on him.

Klaas_nalbandian
06-13-2008, 03:17 PM
really a great victory for Rafa

shotgun
06-13-2008, 03:17 PM
Nice bottling job, Ivo. Roddick should take Nadal out in the next round.

Naide
06-13-2008, 03:17 PM
Ha.

PiggyGotRoasted
06-13-2008, 03:17 PM
Mitsubishi Evo Karlovic 8 with new top speed 140 mph :)

Dmitry Verdasco
06-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Nadal won 110 points, Karlovic won 111.

35 Aces from Karlovic - almost 1/3 of his entire points won! What a weapon to have..

Good win or Rafa on the grass..

The Kaz
06-13-2008, 03:18 PM
man I hate grass, only aces and aces

well done Rafa :yeah:

:spit: @ ur avatar

Aenea
06-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Well done, Rafa!! :woohoo:
Great win over an all-serve Karlovic. Even 35 aces in a match cannot help a poor tennis player.
Now go smash Roddick!! Vamos! :rocker2:

Klaas_nalbandian
06-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Damn lucky spaniard.

Stupid Ivo for choking :mad:

guess you didn't saw the match

Herdwick
06-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Next time anyone thinks about complaining about baseline rallies just recall this one. Don't doubt Karlovic is a lovely chap but the thought of sitting through much more of that. Next match should be a perfect contrast.

Congrats to Rafa - that was tight but he just refused to lose.

Deathless Mortal
06-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Ivo :( Was very close to a big win... But he showed he can play well, easily defeated Gonzalez, and put up a good fight against Nadal. Hopefully he does well in Wimbledon.

ChocGeek
06-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Rafa won it in style:] As for Ivo, 35 aces, omg?!

gebl
06-13-2008, 03:19 PM
well done, Rafa

:secret: and :haha::wavey::devil::cool: to disappointed Croatards/othertards

TMJordan
06-13-2008, 03:19 PM
Ha.

Nothing funny here.

HeretiC
06-13-2008, 03:19 PM
I feel a genuine relief that I am not going to see Dr. Ivo tomorrow too. Btw, has anyone ever seen an interesting Karlovic match? And what are Nadal camp doing? Couldn't they advice Rafa to block Karlovic serves instead of trying with return winners? He got a few of them, but in the end it is not an efficient way to play against big first servers.

rocketassist
06-13-2008, 03:20 PM
Insane match, but I enjoyed it in its own right.

Nadal managed to get enough on the returns in the second and third TBs to take them.

Nadal-Roddick should be a good contest, but Duck will need to serve as well as Ivo did today.

screaminhead
06-13-2008, 03:20 PM
Some of Ivo's shots. :o If it weren't for the serve...

Exactly, it was a snoozefest. In between eye blinks, his service game is over.

anon57
06-13-2008, 03:22 PM
Good match from Nadal

GuiroNl
06-13-2008, 03:22 PM
Great match from Nadal. Some perfect returns in the last two tiebreaks to get through Ivo.

Good job Rafa.

safinalium
06-13-2008, 03:24 PM
Great, just as i expected :D

federernadalfan
06-13-2008, 03:25 PM
a lot tighter match than expected:) Rafa deserves the win though:worship:

Clara Bow
06-13-2008, 03:26 PM
Ahhhh feels like grass season for sure. The whining about Rafa only winning because of luck is in full flight. ;)

Good win for Rafa- he let out a big smile after the match that seemed to be a mix of relief and happiness. I think he will lose in the next round, but a good match for him to win today and get a step further in the tournament.

tae04
06-13-2008, 03:26 PM
Good job Rafa. 35 ACES OMG!! Is that a record for 3 set match? lol

Sunset of Age
06-13-2008, 03:26 PM
Well done, Rafa! :yeah:
Glad to see him doing so well in Queens. Go for that title now, Raf! :rocker2:

Vanjezi
06-13-2008, 03:27 PM
Whats the score of last tb?

Stupid eurosport :mad:

The Pro
06-13-2008, 03:27 PM
Phew, that was close. pushed to the wire by Dr Ivo but pulled through.

Now I can watch the semis on my day off for a change! :D Instead of him losing on the friday like last 2 years. :(

RogiRafaFan86
06-13-2008, 03:28 PM
Damn it, Rafa! Had such a good thing going - QF's here, Wimbledon Final. Had to go and screw it up. Kiss that Final goodbye...:mad:

In all seriousness, I fully expected Rafa to lose. Not that Rafa would tank the match, but that it would have been more trouble than it was worth to chop down the giant. I still think he would have been totally fine with losing, but I think with every ball that whizzed past him, he got more and more frustrated and determined to win.

Ivo seems like a very nice guy, but you'd have to pay me to go watch one of his matches in person. I don't hate him for his serve, it's a powerful weapon. But I can't recall ever truly enjoying any of his matches. But that's just me, I know some others are consistently amazed at the ace exhibitions.

Tutu
06-13-2008, 03:28 PM
Did you see the ball girls forget themselves and start clapping? :haha:

krystlel
06-13-2008, 03:30 PM
Gosh that was dull.

Horatio Caine
06-13-2008, 03:31 PM
Obviously playing Nadal in the rallies is very difficult, but I think Ivo really shot himself in the foot there...he just didn't do anything. Now and again he went for it, but the rest of the time he played right into Nadal's hands...I'd have liked to have seen him be more aggressive than that.

DDrago2
06-13-2008, 03:31 PM
There needs to be an aditional rule in tennis that forbids people higher then 2 meters to play the game. Karlovic only serves the whole match!

The Pro
06-13-2008, 03:31 PM
Lol @ Tutu ^

Stefanos13
06-13-2008, 03:33 PM
Nadal couldn't help but giggle to his camp while uttering "puta" the second he won. He looked frustrated with such an 'up-normal' match and relieved to get through. Surviving 35 aces is not something players are used to :)

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 03:34 PM
Obviously playing Nadal in the rallies is very difficult, but I think Ivo really shot himself in the foot there...he just didn't do anything. Now and again he went for it, but the rest of the time he played right into Nadal's hands...I'd have liked to have seen him be more aggressive than that.

affirmative. Clay Monster had to be tough off the ground. had he not been sharp, he would have gone down easily today.

All those clay matches and practice on clay has his ground game tuned up. all that was needed were some minor adjustments on grass and he seems to be making them.

memo to Fed: Pray for death. Clay Monster cometh.

MacTheKnife
06-13-2008, 03:37 PM
If they ever want to shorten tennis there should be a new rule that states, All Karlovic matches are simply best 2 of three tie breakers..

This guy serves unbelievable. If he ever stops choking on the big points, he'll be virtually unbeatable on grass..

DDrago2
06-13-2008, 03:38 PM
There is a sad side to this victory: Nadal gains ATP points since he hasn't reached SF here last year.

But than again so does Roger in Halle :devil:

screaminhead
06-13-2008, 03:39 PM
I never enjoyed Karlovic's service games during the match. Powerful serves but I'd enjoy a tennis match where players hit winners other than their serves.

sawan66278
06-13-2008, 03:42 PM
Excellent, impressive win by Rafa. To survive 35 aces...when Karlovic was serving at 74%...wow:eek::eek: Just two years ago, Rafa would have gone down in flames (see his struggles against Kendrick)...

Today: brilliant returns at critical junctures...against a TRUE threat on grass...

VAMOS!!!!

His confidence, win or lose tomorrow, is VERY high!

Clay Death
06-13-2008, 03:49 PM
Excellent, impressive win by Rafa. To survive 35 aces...when Karlovic was serving at 74%...wow:eek::eek: Just two years ago, Rafa would have gone down in flames (see his struggles against Kendrick)...

Today: brilliant returns at critical junctures...against a TRUE threat on grass...

VAMOS!!!!

His confidence, win or lose tomorrow, is VERY high!

affirmative. Clay Monster will win in 2 or 3 sets. i see that look he has. he wants to fight.

Spes
06-13-2008, 03:55 PM
Match of the decade, for sure.

Rafa actually played pretty well, I thought. Karlovic may not be the best mover but some of his groundstrokes were amazing. He should win this title, really.

~Maya~
06-13-2008, 03:55 PM
Funny, many predicted this kind of the result. 6-7, 7-6, 7-6

HNCS
06-13-2008, 03:59 PM
man I hate grass, only aces and aces

well done Rafa :yeah:

you shouldn't hate grass. hate ivo. he plays like this even on clay. :lol:

Ivo#1Fan
06-13-2008, 04:03 PM
Obviously playing Nadal in the rallies is very difficult, but I think Ivo really shot himself in the foot there...he just didn't do anything. Now and again he went for it, but the rest of the time he played right into Nadal's hands...I'd have liked to have seen him be more aggressive than that.

I think Ivo came in every opportunity he could. Nadal hits a very difficult, spin heavy ball which is extremely challenging to get used to and it's so high that even for Ivo it's very difficult to approach off of. Also Nadal has unbelievable passing shots. When Ivo did try to break up a few rallies by coming in he always got passed by balls that he didn't even have a play on.

rafa the best
06-13-2008, 04:06 PM
Amazing win for Rafa. Karlovic is a serving monster. Rafa played greaton his serve, his FH was on fire, serve was great too. Winning matches like these is great before Wimbledon.

I really thought he will lose today and now really think he can go all the way.

Horatio Caine
06-13-2008, 04:10 PM
I think Ivo came in every opportunity he could. Nadal hits a very difficult, spin heavy ball which is extremely challenging to get used to and it's so high that even for Ivo it's very difficult to approach off of. Also Nadal has unbelievable passing shots. When Ivo did try to break up a few rallies by coming in he always got passed by balls that he didn't even have a play on.

I freely acknowledge that Ivo didn't have many opportunities to come in, but when I say "aggressive" I meant I hoped that Ivo would put more pop into his groundies. Slicing his backhand all the time was not the right play. He hardly ever took a chance on his returns...when he had 00/30 a couple of times, he should have been trying to apply some pressure to Nadal, rather than plopping the ball back into play,

GlennMirnyi
06-13-2008, 04:10 PM
What a joke. Ivo won more points. :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
06-13-2008, 04:15 PM
There is a sad side to this victory: Nadal gains ATP points since he hasn't reached SF here last year.

But than again so does Roger in Halle :devil:

So, what's the problem? :D

Aenea
06-13-2008, 04:17 PM
So, what's the problem? :D

The problem is they are widening the gap with Novak I guess.:D

MacTheKnife
06-13-2008, 04:21 PM
I freely acknowledge that Ivo didn't have many opportunities to come in, but when I say "aggressive" I meant I hoped that Ivo would put more pop into his groundies. Slicing his backhand all the time was not the right play. He hardly ever took a chance on his returns...when he had 00/30 a couple of times, he should have been trying to apply some pressure to Nadal, rather than plopping the ball back into play,

I agree totally with this. He just did not take enough chances on Nadal's second serve. A couple of times when he did step around, he hit blistering returns. He just did not put enough pressure on Nadal's 2nd serve. Granted, he came in very well on short balls, but way to tentative on the big points.
When you have a serve like his, it is critical to pressure your opponents serve at every opportunity. Even if you miss, it sends a message. The message Nadal got was, I don;t have to worry about my second serve because this guy is not attacking it at all. That was one reason I was stunned when Nadal double faulted in the first tie breaker. He was under NO pressure to hit great second balls.

Stillman
06-13-2008, 04:21 PM
Ivo very good today serve&volley play. I like this tennis.Some volleys was fantastic.

jazar
06-13-2008, 04:34 PM
karlovic showed little interest in returning serve most of the time. it just seemed like he was playing for the tiebreaks

DhammaTiger
06-13-2008, 05:19 PM
Congrats Rafa for surviving Karlovic. Now everything is icing on the cake. Good luck against Roddick. Rafa is undoubtedly the best. Vamos Rafa!

Neely
06-13-2008, 05:20 PM
Nice job for Rafa beating a big server on a surface which makes this serve very dangerous.

I didn't see the match, but I saw some people writing that Ivo choked. What kind of "choke" was it this time? A double fault at the end of the tiebreaker or a bad bounce in which he could do nothing?

LinkMage
06-13-2008, 05:21 PM
Nadal and his never ending luck on grass.

Okonsky
06-13-2008, 05:26 PM
Ivo is walking billboard for nontennis. 35 aces and lost? I admire Nadal, he was calm, collected thoughout the match.

If I ever cheer to Nadal it was today. Scila & Haribda for him.

Corey Feldman
06-13-2008, 05:37 PM
Dont think i've ever seen a worse returner in my life than Karlovic today

even when he knew Nadal was gonna hit that powder puff slicer out to his BH and moved for it he still could barely hit the thing back

rafa the best
06-13-2008, 05:39 PM
Nice job for Rafa beating a big server on a surface which makes this serve very dangerous.

I didn't see the match, but I saw some people writing that Ivo choked. What kind of "choke" was it this time? A double fault at the end of the tiebreaker or a bad bounce in which he could do nothing?

There was no choke at all, haters are just trying to find an excuse.
Rafa made a DF in the first tie break and lost it.

The player who knows to play real tennis won, that's it.:devil::wavey:

Tom Paulman
06-13-2008, 05:58 PM
Strange scoreline for a Karlovic match.

YANIVMUS
06-13-2008, 06:15 PM
300 Wins To Nadal

tangerine_dream
06-13-2008, 06:16 PM
Rafa, you grass animal :bowdown: Thank you for winning this.

Ivo served 35 aces and still lost. :lol: What good is having a serve like that when you can't win with it?

Björki
06-13-2008, 06:16 PM
Rafa :worship:

Mashachosen1
06-13-2008, 06:17 PM
Vamos Rafa!!

MacTheKnife
06-13-2008, 06:20 PM
There was no choke at all, haters are just trying to find an excuse.
Rafa made a DF in the first tie break and lost it.

The player who knows to play real tennis won, that's it.:devil::wavey:

Rafa played a great match against a guy that really pounds his serve. BUT Ivo certainly did choke on some of the big points. I'm basically a fan of either of them so I have no bias. Just calling it like I saw it.

Nadal deserved to win because he is clearly the better overall player, but to say Karlovic didn't choke on some of those crucial points is definitely not an objective observation.

MacTheKnife
06-13-2008, 06:21 PM
There was no choke at all, haters are just trying to find an excuse.
Rafa made a DF in the first tie break and lost it.

The player who knows to play real tennis won, that's it.:devil::wavey:

Rafa played a great match against a guy that really pounds his serve. BUT Ivo certainly did choke on some of the big points. I'm basically not a fan of either of them so I have no bias. Just calling it like I saw it.

Nadal deserved to win because he is clearly the better overall player, but to say Karlovic didn't choke on some of those crucial points is definitely not an objective observation.

goldenlox
06-13-2008, 06:29 PM
This was one of the most entertaining matches I've seen all year. The difference in styles of play, and the closeness of each set, made it a great match to watch.

Tom Paulman
06-13-2008, 06:29 PM
Nadal and his never ending luck on grass.

It will end at this year's Wimbledon, if he doesn't get AO-like draw

star
06-13-2008, 06:45 PM
:bigclap: Nadal.

Against Karlovic, you have to take your chances and take some risks, and Nadal did that at crucial moments. I was impressed at some of Karlovic's shoetop pick ups. It's no big deal for him to volley a sitter at the net, but it is impressive for a guy of his size to get down and make a volley that would be difficult even for a short guy. All in all, it turned out to be good practice for Nadal.

Blue Heart24
06-13-2008, 06:48 PM
Ivo :smash: :o

Same old story again and again.When was the last time he won a couple of breakers against a top player?

arm
06-13-2008, 06:49 PM
:puke: Ivo's game sucks.

Well done Nadal! :bigclap:

sanshisan
06-13-2008, 06:58 PM
Actually Nadal isn't doing that well on grass so far. Little 18 y.o., #100+ in the world, Kei Nishikori took Nadal to 3 sets. Then #22 Karlovic NEARLY beats Nadal. Very close 3 set game. Keep in mind - Karlovic is a serving monster, but that was an extra-ordinary number of aces even for him. Karlovic only got all those aces because NADAL was not quick or accurate enough to return his serves. Maybe this says something about Nadal's game on grass? At least so far.

:confused::devil:

ReturnWinner
06-13-2008, 06:59 PM
Ivo :smash: :o

Same old story again and again.When was the last time he won a couple of breakers against a top player?

Hewitt in Tokyo i think although he was not a top ten by then.

ReturnWinner
06-13-2008, 07:02 PM
no breaks of serve as expected, and props to Nadal by beating such a difficult grass player with the best serve in the history on a pretty fast grasscourt. i could just watche both tiebreaks, some games in the second since 3-4 and Nadal played some clutch good returns in both tiebreaks and on first serves.

Stefanos13
06-13-2008, 07:24 PM
Actually Nadal isn't doing that well on grass so far. Little 18 y.o., #100+ in the world, Kei Nishikori took Nadal to 3 sets. Then #22 Karlovic NEARLY beats Nadal. Very close 3 set game. Keep in mind - Karlovic is a serving monster, but that was an extra-ordinary number of aces even for him. Karlovic only got all those aces because NADAL was not quick or accurate enough to return his serves. Maybe this says something about Nadal's game on grass? At least so far.

:confused::devil:

Nadal played very well on both matches: Nishikori may be 100+ but he played like a top 50 player; he was hungry for a win; he will be in the top 20 before we know it. Plus Nadal was playing him for the first time and that's always a factor. Karlovic fired 35 aces which is extraordinary. He didn't get those aces because Nadal wasn't quick enough – he got them because they were bullets.

Nadal is adjusting to grass pretty well. Better than last year. Tomorrow's match with Roddick will be testing, but he's reached the SF at Queens for the first time.

foul_dwimmerlaik
06-13-2008, 07:25 PM
Nadal deserves a medal for this one.

ChinoRios4Ever
06-13-2008, 07:29 PM
amazing this Nadal, really amazing :worship:

Okonsky
06-13-2008, 07:44 PM
Nadal deserves a medal for this one.

3 golds at once. He show what mental toghness is. I'm not a Nadal fan but:worship:

Okonsky
06-13-2008, 07:44 PM
Nadal deserves a medal for this one.

3 golds at once. He show what mental toughness is. I'm not Nadal fan but:worship:

RedFury
06-13-2008, 07:50 PM
Actually Nadal isn't doing that well on grass so far. Little 18 y.o., #100+ in the world, Kei Nishikori took Nadal to 3 sets. Then #22 Karlovic NEARLY beats Nadal. Very close 3 set game. Keep in mind - Karlovic is a serving monster, but that was an extra-ordinary number of aces even for him. Karlovic only got all those aces because NADAL was not quick or accurate enough to return his serves. Maybe this says something about Nadal's game on grass? At least so far.

Yep. That he can win even without playing his best tennis. Much like in clay.

:hatoff:

ASP0315
06-13-2008, 08:18 PM
congrats to nadal.

Karlovic played a good typical grass court match. I enjoy watching him. his volleying is great.(but he always meeses it up during the cruicial times like in TBs today.) bh is pretty weak.(but low slices are fine. he can put the ball back and finish the rally at the net.)
Like you found out today he is virtually unbreakale on grass and indoors hard surfaces. But his movement is what killing him. if he manges to pick his movement up he should be a solid top 20.

cardio
06-13-2008, 08:35 PM
Good job Rafa. 35 ACES OMG!! Is that a record for 3 set match? lol
No , last year in Basel Ivo hit 38 aces against Berdych

GuiroNl
06-13-2008, 08:41 PM
Actually Nadal isn't doing that well on grass so far. Little 18 y.o., #100+ in the world, Kei Nishikori took Nadal to 3 sets. Then #22 Karlovic NEARLY beats Nadal. Very close 3 set game. Keep in mind - Karlovic is a serving monster, but that was an extra-ordinary number of aces even for him. Karlovic only got all those aces because NADAL was not quick or accurate enough to return his serves. Maybe this says something about Nadal's game on grass? At least so far.

:confused::devil:

:confused::confused:

It was because Nadal was taking risks in guessing where Karlovic was going to serve. Didn't you see the match?

That risk taking is what got him some crucial return winners on the Karlovic FIRST serve.

Merton
06-13-2008, 08:53 PM
When Ivo serves at 74% on grass he is virtually unbreakable, so it would come down to the tiebreaks. There Ivo has a disadvantage against top players, Nadal was good enough to get the W.

Roddickominator
06-13-2008, 09:18 PM
This was a good match. Ivo's serving and volleying were world class today. Too much slicing and not aggressive enough during his return games though.

I thought Rafa played very well. He took advantage of every opportunity(and there weren't many, with how Ivo was serving). Lost very few rallies....was really running around and crushing every forehand he could. Karlovic really had no chance during the rallies, but who knew what was gonna happen once it got to the tiebreaks.

I guess Rafa needs to get ready to be Roddickominated.

l_mac
06-13-2008, 09:26 PM
:mad:

oz_boz
06-13-2008, 09:28 PM
:hatoff: to Rafa, beating a well-serving Ivo is not that easy - even though the giant's return is absolutely crap.

Ivo served 35 aces and still lost. :lol: What good is having a serve like that when you can't win with it?

:lol: He has won quite a lot with his serve (arguably the most deadly shot on tour ever) actually. Put it this way: Roddick with an ordinary serve would be top 100, Ivo with an ordinary serve would barely be the best in his Croatian home club.

star
06-13-2008, 09:43 PM
This was a good match. Ivo's serving and volleying were world class today. Too much slicing and not aggressive enough during his return games though.

I thought Rafa played very well. He took advantage of every opportunity(and there weren't many, with how Ivo was serving). Lost very few rallies....was really running around and crushing every forehand he could. Karlovic really had no chance during the rallies, but who knew what was gonna happen once it got to the tiebreaks.

I guess Rafa needs to get ready to be Roddickominated.

Andy says he doesn't quite have the usual pop on his serve, so might be a hard day for Andy tomorrow. :sad:

Tnn74
06-14-2008, 12:35 AM
Well done Rafa, you crazy boy... 3 tiebreakers...
forget withstanding 35 aces! Rafa didn't face a single BP..? :eek:

Anyway, good luck against the other serving machine Rafa! :bounce:

gogogirl
06-14-2008, 01:07 AM
Hey All,

Well, good day in the morning - Ivo had 35 ACES and still lost. What in the fish and chips? This win is a testament on how crutch Rafa is on the really important/big points. He bears down like no one I've ever seen w/the exception of how Pete and Boris used to do it, may haps. I mean, he gets the job done.

Players need to learn how to become more aggressive against Rafa and not try to hit him off the court. Ivo tried to get it done by serving 35 ACES but still couldn't squeak out a win. The commentator just called Ivo "The giant from Croatia." LOL - I am watching the TTC rerun of the match now.

Players need to come in more against Rafa. I know he is an excellent passer, but if players come out of the gates swingin', let him see that they intend to keep the pressure and heat on, run him from side to side and keep him on his back foot, then they'd probably far better than most do now. But........that's more easily said than done. LOL! My goodness!

Anyway, back to the tube. Andy might have a shot, but these days, I see few players with the will of Rafa's. May the best player on the day win and like always.

Bibberz
06-14-2008, 01:28 AM
Andy says he doesn't quite have the usual pop on his serve, so might be a hard day for Andy tomorrow. :sad:

I saw that interview. He also said that his high first serve percentage and placement can make up for the lack of pop. Don't feel too bad for him.

Neely
06-14-2008, 02:46 AM
No , last year in Basel Ivo hit 38 aces against Berdych
Exactly, and these are two good links of Voo for more information:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=5850823&postcount=65
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=88915

Uraitan
06-14-2008, 02:51 AM
Karlovic is idiot :o

raven gypsy
06-14-2008, 03:39 AM
Nice smile on court from rafa today :D

No slips into the net, that's good.

I think Ivo is supposed to be real nice guy, but yeah...

At least rafa wasn't driven crazy enough to default like Gonzo :lol:

Knightmace
06-14-2008, 05:00 AM
My prediction was really close!

Well done Rafa

ASP0315
06-14-2008, 05:55 AM
Q. Did you mentally prepare before the match today it was going to go to tiebreaks, playing a big server?
RAFAEL NADAL: I don't know, no? I just go on court, try my best every game, every point, try to be very focused with myself. That's what I thought before the match. If he has a break, you're finish, no?
I said yesterday, wait. When you are returning, wait your chance, because you're never gonna break him, but he can break himself sometimes, no? He can have one double-fault, one volley miss. And if that's happen, and you have one good return in that game, you can do the break. So wait your opportunity, no?
You don't gonna have four good returns and you're gonna break him. That's impossible. But sometimes can happen something like this, no?
But today I think Karlovic improves a lot in the last time, last months, last years. He is volleying very well. He has very good movements on the volley. And he didn't have a bad forehand, no? And the slice is tough here playing on grass.

JimmyV
06-14-2008, 06:24 AM
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8990/wimbledonstreakercopymu2.jpg

Polikarpov
06-14-2008, 07:46 AM
That was an immensely boring match. Ivo has to learn how to return serve.

azza
06-14-2008, 09:28 AM
No?

Benny_Maths
06-14-2008, 09:38 AM
Lol reading this topic about Nadal's interview made me wonder if Nadal would've raised his eyebrow if he saw JimmyV's pic.:D

peterparker
06-14-2008, 10:08 AM
a good approach: Karlovic rarely breaks other good players and at some point messes his own serve up. Nadal also read the higueras situation well: 4 weeks(?) is too short a time for fed's game to change in any fundamental way. A very sensible guy this nadal.

Stillman
06-14-2008, 11:05 AM
That was an immensely boring match. Ivo has to learn how to return serve.
Rafa too must learn how return Ivo serve.
Match was interesting, Karlo play no best his match,but wery well do serve&volley.

groundstroke
06-14-2008, 11:23 AM
If only Karlovic had a backhand, he would have won this match.

stebs
06-14-2008, 11:46 AM
If only Karlovic had a backhand, he would have won this match.

If Karlovic had a backhand he would be a top 10 player in all likelihood.

Tnn74
06-14-2008, 12:07 PM
Actually Nadal isn't doing that well on grass so far. Little 18 y.o., #100+ in the world, Kei Nishikori took Nadal to 3 sets. Then #22 Karlovic NEARLY beats Nadal. Very close 3 set game. Keep in mind - Karlovic is a serving monster, but that was an extra-ordinary number of aces even for him. Karlovic only got all those aces because NADAL was not quick or accurate enough to return his serves. Maybe this says something about Nadal's game on grass? At least so far.

:confused::devil:

:retard: :retard: you try returning some of those 141mph serves, just ONE. :yeah:
I supposed next you'll tell us that Federer isn't quick or accurate enough
to return the Roddick serve :rolleyes:

Chris Seahorse
06-14-2008, 12:34 PM
Nadal has an amazing understanding of the game. On clay he is as almost everyone says practically unbeatable when reasonably healthy. On other surfaces he is not but he is always doing the right thing and going about trying to win all his matches with the right attitude and approach.

VolandriFan
06-14-2008, 12:53 PM
His forehand "isn't bad" (not good?), his volleys are "good" and his backhand slice "works well on grass". :yeah:

groundstroke
06-14-2008, 01:05 PM
:retard: :retard: you try returning some of those 141mph serves, just ONE. :yeah:
I supposed next you'll tell us that Federer isn't quick or accurate enough
to return the Roddick serve :rolleyes:
Huntingtons? Alzheimers? Downs?
Federer has dropped one set against Karlovic in all his career and he has a 15-2 record against Roddick, he can easily read serves.
Nadal just isn't very good at returning. But he is getting much, much better with slicing the ball.

Mr.Gasquet
06-14-2008, 01:11 PM
`And he didn't have a bad forehand, no?

LOL.

Aenea
06-14-2008, 01:18 PM
Huntingtons? Alzheimers? Downs?
Federer has dropped one set against Karlovic in all his career and he has a 15-2 record against Roddick, he can easily read serves.
Nadal just isn't very good at returning. But he is getting much, much better with slicing the ball.

2 sets in 6 meetings
2004 Gstaad Clay R16 Federer 6-7(5) 6-3 7-6(4)
2007 ATP Masters Series Paris Hard R32 Federer 6-3 4-6 6-3

And most of their matches were decided with tie-breaks.

groundstroke
06-14-2008, 01:33 PM
2 sets in 6 meetings
2004 Gstaad Clay R16 Federer 6-7(5) 6-3 7-6(4)
2007 ATP Masters Series Paris Hard R32 Federer 6-3 4-6 6-3

And most of their matches were decided with tie-breaks.
Which means that Federer has held his nerve, didn't double fault like Nadal yesterday and must have been a mini break or a break up in the tie breaks.

Kolya
06-14-2008, 01:48 PM
No?

Horatio Caine
06-14-2008, 01:59 PM
Huntingtons? Alzheimers? Downs?


Please don't make light of horrible "illnesses" such as those. I know you're perhaps trying to be funny, but what you've done is morally reprehensible.

Horatio Caine
06-14-2008, 01:59 PM
Back to the topic in hand though, I like what Roddick is throwing at Rafa today...which is the most ideal way of playing him. Shame that Karlovic played cluelessly yesterday.