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Who will be the first one to kick Rafa's bottle ??

Frederick16
06-13-2008, 02:05 PM
I just realised something by what john loyd said on the bbc. He said that John Mac or Jimmy C would have waited to this moment 67 76 56 to kick the bottle of rafa and say: "You superstitious?? Here take this!!" i was laughing very hard. So i was hoping that someone on the tour will do it at 1 time. Maybe Robin ?? :devil:

shotgun
06-13-2008, 02:08 PM
Muster would do it if he was still playing.

These days only someone like Koellerer would be brave enough to do this. Maybe Soderling, given their history.

Frederick16
06-13-2008, 02:09 PM
Muster would do it if he was still playing.

These days only someone like Koellerer would be brave enough to do this. Maybe Soderling.

Was Muster evil?? I am just to young to remember i think. But i also hate on court antics. I only would do it myself when i was a good player like top 50 or something.

dam0dred
06-13-2008, 02:09 PM
Soderling.

scarecrows
06-13-2008, 02:12 PM
this needs a poll

Frederick16
06-13-2008, 02:12 PM
this needs a poll

haha maybe i will add one. when i know how to do it :angel:

shotgun
06-13-2008, 02:14 PM
Was Muster evil?? I am just to young to remember i think. But i also hate on court antics. I only would do it myself when i was a good player like top 50 or something.

Once during a change over he stole a banana from his opponent and ate it.

federernadalfan
06-13-2008, 02:15 PM
i think the first player to have the guts to do this will have childish, immature, poor sportsmanship imprinted on his record for the rest of his life...

Frederick16
06-13-2008, 02:15 PM
i think the first player to have the guts to do this will have childish, immature, poor sportsmanship imprinted on his record for the rest of his life...

hasnt connorst told nastase during a changeover something about an eartquake in romania. it doesnt harmed him i think.

and all the time warnings rafa gets doesnt harm him either

~*BGT*~
06-13-2008, 02:18 PM
Andy will do it tomorrow. :devil:

The Pro
06-13-2008, 02:19 PM
Soderling would piss in rafa's bottles if he could...

Frederick16
06-13-2008, 02:21 PM
maybe tomas!!! :)

flexeter
06-13-2008, 02:42 PM
These days only someone like Koellerer would be brave enough to do this. Maybe Soderling, given their history.

what about their history what happened? and what has koellerer done to deserve something like this? :)

TheBoiledEgg
06-13-2008, 02:47 PM
when he plays mixed doubles against Patty Schnyder and whoever
i'm sure her crazy druggy husband will come on and kick Rafa's bottle :tape:

Johnny Groove
06-13-2008, 02:52 PM
As if they wanted to give Nadal more motivation to win

Spes
06-13-2008, 02:53 PM
Rainer Hoffmann, duh.

DDrago2
06-13-2008, 02:56 PM
They should wait for Nadal to slip on the grass and kick the damn bottles himself He already had a hilarious slip in his previous match when he ended laying burried bellow the net up to his stomack :lol: :lol:

Truc
06-13-2008, 02:56 PM
Rainer Hoffmann, duh.
:lol: But MTF posters boycott the WTA, they might not get it:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3306g_dani-schnyder-after-the-match_sport

Spes
06-13-2008, 02:58 PM
:lol: But MTF posters boycott the WTA, they might not get it:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3306g_dani-schnyder-after-the-match_sport

Patty. :rocker2:
Thanks for posting it, I haven't watched that video in a while.

Neely
06-13-2008, 04:14 PM
I remember a ball kid at a tournament not long ago (maybe it was Hamburg?) touched his bottle(s) shortly after he left the bench. It looked as if the ballkid wanted to put it a bit closer to the bench that nobody struggles over it, during play, after changing ends again, or for whatever reason. Nadal somehow saw that behind his back and immediately told him (I think it was a ballboy) something which was inaudible, but most likely something like: "hands away, only I may touch them" :lol:

Funny situation somehow, I had to giggle a bit. Maybe some other people have noticed it, too ;)

HNCS
06-13-2008, 04:18 PM
:lol: But MTF posters boycott the WTA, they might not get it:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3306g_dani-schnyder-after-the-match_sport

:spit::haha:

Kolya
06-13-2008, 04:38 PM
:lol: But MTF posters boycott the WTA, they might not get it:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3306g_dani-schnyder-after-the-match_sport

What made him to that?

Spes
06-13-2008, 04:40 PM
What made him to that?

The umpire made some amazingly bad calls in that match. Not to mention the famously long amount of time Hantuchova takes in-between points.

These reasons, of course, in no way account for his actions. He is a complete tool who needs to be banned from the tour. Patty would probably be ranked much higher than she is now if she had bothered to find a real coach instead of this idiot she unfortunately refers to as her husband.

Sinerra
06-13-2008, 04:54 PM
Rafa kicked over one of his own bottles yesterday. He walked back to put them up again. He won that game anyway ;)
He also said once it wouldnt bother him if someone kicked them over. :cool:


I remember a ball kid at a tournament not long ago (maybe it was Hamburg?) touched his bottle(s) shortly after he left the bench. It looked as if the ballkid wanted to put it a bit closer to the bench that nobody struggles over it, during play, after changing ends again, or for whatever reason. Nadal somehow saw that behind his back and immediately told him (I think it was a ballboy) something which was inaudible, but most likely something like: "hands away, only I may touch them"

Funny situation somehow, I had to giggle a bit. Maybe some other people have noticed it, too

I saw that too. It was during Roland Garros. I thought that ballkid thought his bottle was empty and wanted to give him a new one.. (the way the kid looked at it...)
He didnt see Rafa said something about it. I thought he didn't even notice

lurker
06-13-2008, 05:43 PM
The only player I can think of, retired or otherwise, who would do something like that is Jeff Tarango. Erm, maybe Marcelo Rios too.

Frederick16
06-13-2008, 06:27 PM
maybe we can all add 50 euros in a bowl... and then we offer it to some stranger wildcard or qualifier who can need the money. and say that he gets the whole bunch of euros when he kicks the bottles on a live broadcasted match!! !:D

Stefanos13
06-13-2008, 06:31 PM
Bartoli

camnation
06-13-2008, 06:36 PM
Or a crazed fan can throw something at the bottles from the stands. It might devastate Rafa a la Seles.

finishingmove
06-13-2008, 07:01 PM
i'd like to see the look rafa would give him , if someone actually tried it.

and this goes without saying , but it would probably default into a loss for that guy.

Mago#01
06-13-2008, 07:08 PM
Koellerer!!!

cmurray
06-13-2008, 07:18 PM
You guys are FUNNY. You think if somebody did this it would throw Rafa's game off? :spit::haha::haha:

All it would do is piss him off. Inciting Rafa is not something you want to do on a tennis court.

nihil66
06-13-2008, 07:23 PM
from the ballkids thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJOUObaany0

Hugh Jaas
06-13-2008, 07:28 PM
Or a crazed fan can throw something at the bottles from the stands. It might devastate Rafa a la Seles.

WTF you want a crazed fan to stab rafa with a 10 inch boning knife?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Parche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Parche)
are you high or incredibly stupid.

MacTheKnife
06-13-2008, 07:35 PM
My dream would be for Johnny Mac to make a come back and play Djokovic and have to deal with that ridiculous ball bouncing. Can you even imagine..

10nisfan
06-13-2008, 08:19 PM
Even if Someone is Either BRAVE or STUPID Enough to DO This to RAFA, He Won't Let this Act Affect his Game...

Remember what Soderling did last year when he was playing with Rafa?... I'm Not Sure if Rafa was pissed but it seems that He Wasn't Happy about it.. and He went to Win that Match...

I think He has Good Mental Discipline NOT to be Riled up by some Stupid Acts by his Opponent...

Frederick16
06-13-2008, 09:04 PM
he almost clubbed a little balkid to death when it nearly touched it.. so :p

octatennis
06-14-2008, 12:21 AM
I remember a ball kid at a tournament not long ago (maybe it was Hamburg?) touched his bottle(s) shortly after he left the bench. It looked as if the ballkid wanted to put it a bit closer to the bench that nobody struggles over it, during play, after changing ends again, or for whatever reason. Nadal somehow saw that behind his back and immediately told him (I think it was a ballboy) something which was inaudible, but most likely something like: "hands away, only I may touch them" :lol:

Funny situation somehow, I had to giggle a bit. Maybe some other people have noticed it, too ;)


i saw it in roland garros, and i thought after that federer would come back and win the match, plus when the little kid grabed the bottle he looks nerveous cause the umpire or someone told him to leave it inmediatly, thanks god rafa didn't see that.:scared::scared:

camnation
06-14-2008, 12:31 AM
WTF you want a crazed fan to stab rafa with a 10 inch boning knife?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Parche
are you high or incredibly stupid.
Yes, my post was totally not a joke and I am so incredibly stupid that I cited the incident without knowing what happened. :rolleyes: I bow to your superior intellect. :worship:

The Freak
06-14-2008, 12:36 AM
Spadea ain't afraid

octatennis
06-14-2008, 01:07 AM
what about their history what happened? and what has koellerer done to deserve something like this? :)


koeller is a so temperament guy who is always screaming and bothering his opponents, that's why they said he could dare to kick rafa's bottles.... the other was the argue moment of soderling with nadal in last year wimbledon, toad was complaining about all the time rafa was wasting between serves( as he used to)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UzZdBx-deo&feature=related

schorsch
06-14-2008, 01:10 AM
hmm, he claims he isnt superstitious, yet he still does all this weird stuff...
so...

either:

A: he is superstitious and doesnt want anybody to know cause it might be an advantage over him

B: maybe his biggest fear is that if somebody touched his bottles they also might put some drugs in it and that would destroy his career

...

anyhoo its silly

Gulbis-Mahut
06-14-2008, 01:55 AM
Mikhail Youzhny is crazy enough to do something like that. He would smash it to pieces like he did with his head earlier this year.

shotgun
06-14-2008, 02:17 AM
Even if Someone is Either BRAVE or STUPID Enough to DO This to RAFA, He Won't Let this Act Affect his Game...

Remember what Soderling did last year when he was playing with Rafa?... I'm Not Sure if Rafa was pissed but it seems that He Wasn't Happy about it.. and He went to Win that Match...

I think He has Good Mental Discipline NOT to be Riled up by some Stupid Acts by his Opponent...

Soderling didn't lose the match because of that particular incident. He lost it because he's a Grand Slam midget who can't get to the Round of 16 no matter who he's playing.

GlennMirnyi
06-14-2008, 02:37 AM
Soderling didn't lose the match because of that particular incident. He lost it because he's a Grand Slam midget who can't get to the Round of 16 no matter who he's playing.

So true. Nadal hardly played better after that in fact.

wilmar
06-14-2008, 02:57 AM
hmm, he claims he isnt superstitious, yet he still does all this weird stuff...
so...

either:

A: he is superstitious and doesnt want anybody to know cause it might be an advantage over him

B: maybe his biggest fear is that if somebody touched his bottles they also might put some drugs in it and that would destroy his career

...

anyhoo its silly

I think it's less superstitious but more of Nadal's anal character coming out when it comes to tennis. Talents seem to have their quirks.
He probably wants things that are within his control to be in a fixed routine ritualistic manner so he can fully focus on his task at hand.

But the second point you brought up seems pretty valid too. Haven't thought of it that way until now. And it's better to be safe than sorry, no?

Merton
06-14-2008, 03:03 AM
Soderling didn't lose the match because of that particular incident. He lost it because he's a Grand Slam midget who can't get to the Round of 16 no matter who he's playing.

Soderling got broken right after this episode, then broke back in one of the gazillion rain breaks that followed. He had a chance to go up a break missing a rather easy forehand and after that got broken. You are right, the episode didn't affect the match but it provided great entertainment.

peterparker
06-14-2008, 09:19 AM
i saw it in roland garros, and i thought after that federer would come back and win the match, plus when the little kid grabed the bottle he looks nerveous cause the umpire or someone told him to leave it inmediatly, thanks god rafa didn't see that.:scared::scared:

lol

peterparker
06-14-2008, 09:27 AM
I think it's less superstitious but more of Nadal's anal character coming out when it comes to tennis. Talents seem to have their quirks.
He probably wants things that are within his control to be in a fixed routine ritualistic manner so he can fully focus on his task at hand.

But the second point you brought up seems pretty valid too. Haven't thought of it that way until now. And it's better to be safe than sorry, no?

Amazing point, nadal is worried about people drugging his water bottles. Maybe nadal should have the ballboys, girls and umpires test out his water bottles before he drinks them? Or better yet bring his own water bottle tester to each of his match.....a job which I would volunteer for by the way.

Black Adam
06-14-2008, 10:33 AM
I think that Nadal has OCD which explains his tics. Apparently he wasn't aware of them before Uncle Toni sat him down to watch a video clip of it at the end of last year. Now he only works on his Bandanna and picks his ass. He no longer sets his socks before every serve, so it's progress no?

About the bottle, you people don't realise how serious this is. Do you imagine the consequences if someone were to slip some illegal product into his drink?? This one I can understand why he is very careful with his bottles.

The Pro
06-14-2008, 10:41 AM
I'm not so sure it's OCD. Any sport which involves a lot of luck also has superstitious players.

In tennis, luck can be involved in let calls, line calls, miss-hits, trips and reaction shots. So it's no surprise that players like Nadal and Ivanesevic appear, who have a wad of tics. It's like bastketball players who rub their coaches head before a game or gamblers who keep all their old tickets.

Tnn74
06-14-2008, 11:25 AM
i think the first player to have the guts to do this will have childish, immature, poor sportsmanship imprinted on his record for the rest of his life...

:lol: nothing sweet little djokovic isn't used to hearing...

schorsch
06-14-2008, 03:55 PM
But Nadull claims he isnt superstitious at all...

Frederick16
06-16-2008, 07:34 AM
Wimbledon 2008 third round Soderling - Nadal it will happen!

Chris Seahorse
06-16-2008, 08:25 AM
I think Nadal's protectiveness towards his bottles probably has more to do with being just a touch paranoic about his drinks being doped than anything to do with superstition. Kind of understandable really when one thinks what a positive drug test would do to a top players career. I suspect all the players have to be ridiculously cautious about everything they eat and drink and this is just one way that manifests itself.

I note Nadal said he wouldn't mind if someone knocked over a bottle. Of course not. He just wouldn't drink from it and would get another one. What he doesn't want is people he doesn't know going near enough his bottle so that they could put something in it. That is my view anyhow.

helgagonzalez
06-16-2008, 08:34 AM
I think it's less superstitious but more of Nadal's anal character coming out when it comes to tennis.
He probably wants things that are within his control to be in a fixed routine ritualistic manner so he can fully focus on his task at hand.
Yeah, I think that's what it is too.
He's just gotten used to doing these things which are really harmless to everyone.

i saw it in roland garros, and i thought after that federer would come back and win the match, plus when the little kid grabed the bottle he looks nerveous cause the umpire or someone told him to leave it inmediatly, thanks god rafa didn't see that.:scared::scared:

That crossed my mind too. Hahaha! ;)
The kid immediately returned the bottle though.

PiggyGotRoasted
06-16-2008, 10:04 AM
Guillermo Coria would/will do it.

wilmar
06-16-2008, 11:26 AM
I think that Nadal has OCD which explains his tics. Apparently he wasn't aware of them before Uncle Toni sat him down to watch a video clip of it at the end of last year. Now he only works on his Bandanna and picks his ass. He no longer sets his socks before every serve, so it's progress no?

About the bottle, you people don't realise how serious this is. Do you imagine the consequences if someone were to slip some illegal product into his drink?? This one I can understand why he is very careful with his bottles.

Yes, I read that Nadal was unaware of his tics, so this would lean to the OCD theory more than superstitious, which would certinaly require a conscious effort. And he has certainly improved on his between-point compulsions. But I'm also sure Nadal has some sort of superstition when it comes to tennis. But just not those tics.


As for the doping, is Nadal one of the most tested on the tour? With his incredible physique being an easy target, and after those allegations last year from the French (or is it Spanish?) media, I don't blame him for being paranoid.

wilmar
06-16-2008, 11:32 AM
Or better yet bring his own water bottle tester to each of his match.....a job which I would volunteer for by the way.

I'm sure you would ;)
But I heard the commentators yesterday say that one 46 year old lady fan (or was it 46 years older than Nadal) proposed marriage. So I'm sure she would have something to say about that.

Iván
06-16-2008, 11:33 AM
Mardy Fish

Mimi
06-17-2008, 04:25 AM
:haha::haha:I'm sure you would ;)
But I heard the commentators yesterday say that one 46 year old lady fan (or was it 46 years older than Nadal) proposed marriage. So I'm sure she would have something to say about that.

wilmar
06-17-2008, 06:31 AM
hehehe..AMAZING isn't it, Mimi?
That's the Universal appeal of our Rafa, bridging across gender and generations!

Mimi
06-17-2008, 06:46 AM
yeah, but this woman is over-confident, 46, she can be rafa's mother :cuckoo:
hehehe..AMAZING isn't it, Mimi?
That's the Universal appeal of our Rafa, bridging across gender and generations!

wilmar
06-17-2008, 06:57 AM
that's what love can do!;)
but frankly, how does she think she can keep up with Nadal's high level of energy and intensity:? :p

Mimi
06-17-2008, 07:08 AM
plastic surgery must be done, and may be drinking power-enhancing medicines/drinks 10 times a day :secret:
that's what love can do!;)
but frankly, how does she think she can keep up with Nadal's high level of energy and intensity:? :p