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Battle of the Andys, Roddick vs Murray: WWW?

~*BGT*~
06-12-2008, 03:54 PM
Roddick will need a better start if he wants the win.

Manon
06-12-2008, 03:56 PM
But he will win.

rocketassist
06-12-2008, 03:58 PM
Roddick needs a great serving day.

ChocGeek
06-12-2008, 04:00 PM
Lol, no doubt about Murray.

Clydey
06-12-2008, 04:00 PM
Roddick needs a great serving day.

Tough one to call. Depends on Roddick's serving. I'll always fancy Murray in the rallies, if he gets Roddick's serve in play.

Rogieva
06-12-2008, 04:03 PM
Roddick w/o

octatennis
06-12-2008, 04:10 PM
roddick does not need his serve, muzza would not overpower roddick's shots.

Justin425
06-12-2008, 04:12 PM
Andy will clinch it

Clydey
06-12-2008, 04:13 PM
What's the head to head? 4-2 or 4-3 in Murray's favour? I can't rembmer. I think it's 4-2, but one was a Roddick retirement. Only one on grass and that was 3-0 to Murray.

On paper, I'd say Murray is the slight favourite.

NinaNina19
06-12-2008, 04:15 PM
Andy will clinch it:worship:

TMJordan
06-12-2008, 04:15 PM
Roddick will ram him.

dodoboy
06-12-2008, 04:17 PM
Roddick without doubt!

But it would be great to see Murray win here, at least SF.

I just hope it is a competitive match :)

sphiie
06-12-2008, 04:18 PM
I like Murray's new hairstyle without his casquette. Roddick will beat him in 2sets, with all his aces...

Clydey
06-12-2008, 04:21 PM
Roddick without doubt!

But it would be great to see Murray win here, at least SF.

I just hope it is a competitive match :)

Without doubt? :eek:

Should be a tight match, but I don't see why everyone is tipping Roddick so confidently, given that Murray leads the head to head and won their only match on grass convincingly.

I can imagine this being decided by a single break or a tiebreak or two.

arm
06-12-2008, 04:21 PM
I hope Murray, but I think Roddick. :unsure:

BigJohn
06-12-2008, 04:23 PM
Big battle here, the two of them have an amazing weapon.

Roddick serves big. Intimidating.
Murray is mighty ugly. Intimidating AND scary.

Nevertheless, Roddick will win it.

The tournament is his.

RNP2008
06-12-2008, 04:26 PM
I hope Murray, but I think Roddick. :unsure:

my thoughts :)

Manon
06-12-2008, 04:28 PM
I hope Murray, but I think Roddick. :unsure:

I don't know who to cheer. I think Roddick coz of Murray's injury. Wish a good, tough, quallity mach.

NinaNina19
06-12-2008, 04:28 PM
Big battle here, the two of them have an amazing weapon.

Roddick serves big. Intimidating.
Murray is mighty ugly. Intimidating AND scary.

Nevertheless, Roddick will win it.

The tournament is his.Murray is better looking than Roddick.

Justin425
06-12-2008, 04:28 PM
Without doubt? :eek:

Should be a tight match, but I don't see why everyone is tipping Roddick so confidently, given that Murray leads the head to head and won their only match on grass convincingly.

I can imagine this being decided by a single break or a tiebreak or two.

Roddick was slumping the first half of 06 which is where Murray got two of victories. James Blake who is a grass court clown beat Roddick at Queens right before Wimbledon that year so that should tell you something. And 7/6,6/4,6/4 is a straight set win but hardly convincing. The FO final was convincing. The big difference in that Wimbledon match was that Murray converted 3 of his 12 bps and Roddick 1 of 12 bps.

That being I said I still expect the match to be tight.

NinaNina19
06-12-2008, 04:30 PM
Murray will win. He can return.

Clydey
06-12-2008, 04:32 PM
Roddick was slumping the first half of 06 which is where Murray got two of victories. James Blake who is a grass court clown beat Roddick at Queens right before Wimbledon that year so that should tell you something. And 7/6,6/4,6/4 is a straight set win but hardly convincing. The FO final was convincing.

That being I said I still expect the match to be tight.

And Murray was only 19, with tonnes of improving to do. Roddick was a former finalist. I love the suggestion that Murray's wins over Rddick had nothing to do with him. It was just Roddick's form.

And yes, 7-6, 6-4, 6-4 is a convincing win. Rafa over fed was a thrashing, not merely convincing.

Bernard Black
06-12-2008, 04:32 PM
Murray will win.

Roddick can't handle him fully fit let alone when feeling his way back from injury. Murray is just one of those players who gets a great read on the Roddick serve early on in the match, and by his own admission, Roddick isn't serving at 100% yet.

tangerine_dream
06-12-2008, 04:36 PM
Murray is better looking than Roddick.
Sure, if you're a Talosian.

NinaNina19
06-12-2008, 04:37 PM
Sure, if you're a Talosian.A lot of people think so.

Bernard Black
06-12-2008, 04:40 PM
Sure, if you're a Talosian.

I thought Murray was looking ok today! :cool:

BigJohn
06-12-2008, 04:41 PM
Murray is better looking than Roddick.

In Bizarro world, he sure is. :)

arm
06-12-2008, 04:44 PM
Murray is better looking than Roddick.

Murray will win. He can return.

:eek: :confused: :rolleyes:

Horatio Caine
06-12-2008, 04:44 PM
Muzza is an absolute bloody disaster...if he hadn't injured himself today, I'd be reasonably confident in his chances tomorrow. It's not like Roddick would kill him in the rallies.

sheeter
06-12-2008, 04:53 PM
Murray has a good chance. He has the return to at least partly neutralize the Roddick serve, and he can use his drop shot to pull Roddick in and make he hit tough volleys or just pass him. It'll be hard for Roddick just overpower Murray as well, because of Murray's defensive skills. Also, he can beat Roddick in backhand to backhand rallies. Roddick will need to serve really well, and be hitting very well to win.

RogandyFan
06-12-2008, 04:58 PM
Murray has a good chance. He has the return to at least partly neutralize the Roddick serve, and he can use his drop shot to pull Roddick in and make he hit tough volleys or just pass him. It'll be hard for Roddick just overpower Murray as well, because of Murray's defensive skills. Also, he can beat Roddick in backhand to backhand rallies. Roddick will need to serve really well, and be hitting very well to win.

but forehand to forehand rallies will be :tears: Go andy oops go Murray!

Clydey
06-12-2008, 04:58 PM
The match may not happen apparently. Murray has a badly sprained thumb and is going to wait and see how it feels tomorrow. Quite right. Being ok for Wimbledon is the most important thing. Dying to see him and Roddick go at it, though.

MacTheKnife
06-12-2008, 05:03 PM
The match may not happen apparently. Murray has a badly sprained thumb and is going to wait and see how it feels tomorrow. Quite right. Being ok for Wimbledon is the most important thing. Dying to see him and Roddick go at it, though.

Just heard this too. They stated it was "doubtful" Murray would be able to play. That $ucks...

Clydey
06-12-2008, 05:05 PM
Just heard this too. They stated it was "doubtful" Murray would be able to play. That $ucks...

Would be more optimistic, but those sorts of injuries tend to be more stiff the mrning after. Would be a shame. The tournament was shaping up nicely with the big names getting through.

marcRD
06-12-2008, 06:10 PM
The polite Andy will win it.

Allez
06-12-2008, 06:10 PM
Murray will lose and blame the "injury". :rolleyes:

rocketassist
06-12-2008, 06:11 PM
Roddick was slumping the first half of 06 which is where Murray got two of victories. James Blake who is a grass court clown beat Roddick at Queens right before Wimbledon that year so that should tell you something. And 7/6,6/4,6/4 is a straight set win but hardly convincing. The FO final was convincing. The big difference in that Wimbledon match was that Murray converted 3 of his 12 bps and Roddick 1 of 12 bps.

That being I said I still expect the match to be tight.

So those two wins don't count because Roddick was slumping? :haha: Stupid fanboy.

Roddick fans make more excuses than most- they still think he SHOULD be hitting top 5 forehands, and when he gets outplayed by a more technically gifted player (bar Federer) they'll come out and say it was because 'Andy wasn't playing well'. And the players they tend to dislike are the ones that kick his ass all the time.

That said, I don't mind Roddick and this match will be a good'un.

martine2
06-12-2008, 06:15 PM
Well, if it's an Andy I have to choose, it will be Muzza

scoobs
06-12-2008, 06:18 PM
I would hope, if he plays, it will be Murray, but we'll have to see how he pulls up tonight and tomorrow.

I remember the Haas match in IW in 2006 which he fell and did his ankle but fought on and finished the match, won it, but then could hardly move the next day and was embarrassed by Djokovic in the semis.

I wouldn't want to see a repeat of that scenario. Good to see him battle through it today but if he can't compete tomorrow, he shouldn't play. There is Wimbledon to think about.

ASP0315
06-12-2008, 06:22 PM
it wil all depend on roddick serves. (if he puts more first serves in he will be out of jail. otherwise murray would win most of the points in a rally.)

anyway my pick is roddick in two.

Allez
06-12-2008, 06:29 PM
Murray was just looking for an excuse just in case he lost. He gets "injured" far too often for my liking.

tennizen
06-12-2008, 06:31 PM
Murray in 3

Clydey
06-12-2008, 06:32 PM
He gets "injured" far too often for my liking.

I'm sure that's something he loses sleep over.

HeretiC
06-12-2008, 06:34 PM
I don't think that another Oscar worthy acting performance will be of any use against Ducky. He will have to outplay him.

Allez
06-12-2008, 06:38 PM
I'm sure that's something he loses sleep over.

He reads these forums so yeah, I'm sure he'll lose some sleep over that comment.

HeretiC
06-12-2008, 06:44 PM
I just saw in my crystal ball that Andy will play in SF.;)

Merton
06-12-2008, 06:49 PM
Murray in 3 I think, provided he is healthy.

RoyBatty
06-12-2008, 07:20 PM
So many times I've seen Murray was called "passive pussy".
But give me a thought how can he beat ARod at Wimb's grass in that case.

safinalium
06-12-2008, 07:28 PM
I would like Murray to win but it will probably be Roddick :o

Corey Feldman
06-12-2008, 07:31 PM
Should be Roddick with his never ending luck

*Viva Chile*
06-12-2008, 07:38 PM
another beatdown from Murray over the duck like in Wimby '06 :yeah:

Vida
06-12-2008, 07:43 PM
ARod in tough 3. Murray is motivated as hell, its his turf. It has downsides - pressure, but upsides - crowd support. But he got injured today after a nasty fall, so I guess Roddick has more in the tank. BEsides, he is more rested and experienced player overall. Not to mention he serves pretty good.

*John*
06-12-2008, 07:44 PM
roddick hopefully!

Justin425
06-12-2008, 07:51 PM
So those two wins don't count because Roddick was slumping? :haha: Stupid fanboy.

Roddick fans make more excuses than most- they still think he SHOULD be hitting top 5 forehands, and when he gets outplayed by a more technically gifted player (bar Federer) they'll come out and say it was because 'Andy wasn't playing well'. And the players they tend to dislike are the ones that kick his ass all the time.

That said, I don't mind Roddick and this match will be a good'un.

I'm not a fanboy and of course the Roddick losses count but I dont think Murray has an edge just because he beat Roddick at Wimbledon 2 years ago.

tangerine_dream
06-12-2008, 07:51 PM
I tried watching Snagglepuss' interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRYy-lYPRhA) with Jonathan Ross the other day and fell asleep in the middle of it. :zzz: Typical so-serious British bore. :yawn: Andy Roddick was much funnier on Ross' show when he visited last year, plus he's much better looking. Therefore he will win. Manly Andy will make Girly Andy scream even harder than he did today when he fell and sprained his thumb. http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/mtf/images/icons/icon10.gif

decrepitude
06-12-2008, 07:56 PM
Andy Roddick was much funnier on Ross' show when he visited last year, plus he's much better looking. Therefore he will win.

Oh - somebody is funnier and better looking, therefore he will win? Interesting tennis logic there.

jazar
06-12-2008, 07:58 PM
roddick will win and murray will whinge about all his little injuries

Andi-M
06-12-2008, 10:18 PM
Both players are a lil injured and not played too much tennis this week.

I dunno. A-Rod has improved since the last time they played but If both players are 100% Muzza is still favourite imo, as he can read Roddicks serve all day long.

So i'll go Murray 7/5 7/6

Duncan
06-12-2008, 10:19 PM
This is grass... like proper grass. Roddick in 3 sets.

If it was wimbledon and the clay grass then i would say Murray in straights.

Black Adam
06-12-2008, 10:22 PM
A great display of brain disorder when a fangirl says that she believes that Andrew Murray is good looking let alone better looking than someone else :eek: :help:

RogerFan82
06-12-2008, 11:57 PM
Ducky will beat the shit out of that passive moonballer.

jcempire
06-13-2008, 12:20 AM
Good luck to Andy

He looks good

dylan24
06-13-2008, 12:25 AM
duck will bring it

Oj-Ala
06-13-2008, 12:57 AM
I dont think Murray will play :(
Good for Roddick......

Knightmace
06-13-2008, 03:42 AM
Roddick all the way.

~*BGT*~
06-13-2008, 03:53 AM
I can't believe this many people think my Andy is gonna win. :eek: They must want the MTF jinx. :p

decrepitude
06-13-2008, 10:26 AM
Sadly, I don't think the jinx will work this time. If the match takes place at all, Murray won't have sufficient control over his racket to withstand A-Rod's power. Control is important to somebody who relys on finesse.

I find the Murray-bashers quite amusing, calling him a cissy for complaining about a sore thumb. The phrase "sticks out like a sore thumb" didn't come into being because it was a problem easily ignored! I had a sprained thumb once and getting dressed and undressed was agony. Even wielding a knife and fork, or picking up a cup, was very painful.

Nathaliia
06-13-2008, 10:40 AM
Roddick should whip the court with Murray

BigJohn
06-13-2008, 10:42 AM
I just saw in my crystal ball that Andy will play in SF.;)

Which one? Your crystal ball had no balls...

Tommy fan
06-13-2008, 10:52 AM
Murray will win

Henry Chinaski
06-13-2008, 12:08 PM
Murray will withdraw

Clydey
06-13-2008, 12:15 PM
Murray will withdraw

Any news on him withdrawing? Haven't heard anything yet. Said he'll play through the pain so long as playing won't make it worse.

Henry Chinaski
06-13-2008, 12:26 PM
I haven't heard anything but there's a big drift on his price to win the tournament on betfair which suggests something is up. He was around 11.0 pre-event, 21.0 early this morning and 32.0 now.

Clydey
06-13-2008, 12:28 PM
I haven't heard anything but there's a big drift on his price to win the tournament on betfair which suggests something is up. He was around 11.0 pre-event, 21.0 early this morning and 32.0 now.

Not looking good. I have a feeling he may lose anyway. He played like shit when this happened last year after the Haas match.

Denise
06-13-2008, 12:28 PM
Rod :)

DUN I LOVE
06-13-2008, 12:30 PM
Roddick in straight sets

Clydey
06-13-2008, 12:33 PM
Just been confirmed that the match will go ahead.

Still, I'm not confident of a Murray win now. He tends to play rubbish after taking knocks in prior matches. See his match vs Haas last year.

HeretiC
06-13-2008, 12:49 PM
Which one? Your crystal ball had no balls...

Well, tricky things those crystal balls, not much detailed in predictions, all I got was that Andy will play in SF in Queens, go figure. :mad:

Clydey
06-13-2008, 12:57 PM
Murray has withdrawn.

anon57
06-13-2008, 12:58 PM
Roddick wins by walkover, BBC just reporting that Murray has pulled out

marifline
06-13-2008, 12:59 PM
Problem whith his thumb

superhoops
06-13-2008, 01:05 PM
Bloody eurosport saying he would play

ChocGeek
06-13-2008, 01:07 PM
Murray has withdrawn.


Are you serious? :confused:

ChocGeek
06-13-2008, 01:07 PM
Sources tell me that he is playing...

Clydey
06-13-2008, 01:08 PM
Are you serious? :confused:

Yeah, badly sprained thumb. No point in risking his Wimbledon preparations.

Clydey
06-13-2008, 01:08 PM
Sources tell me that he is playing...

It has been confirmed on the BBC that he has withdrawn.

Henry Chinaski
06-13-2008, 01:08 PM
I haven't heard anything but there's a big drift on his price to win the tournament on betfair which suggests something is up. He was around 11.0 pre-event, 21.0 early this morning and 32.0 now.

Proof that money talks and that some prick in the locker room has once again made a tidy little profit here.

scarecrows
06-13-2008, 01:17 PM
Bloody eurosport saying he would play

ES just said he isnt

Black Adam
06-13-2008, 01:20 PM
He has withdrawn.

tangerine_dream
06-13-2008, 01:26 PM
:lol: That's the second player this year Roddick has psyched out. These baby balls are such wimps. :baby: :devil:

ChocGeek
06-13-2008, 01:34 PM
Oh dear, poor andy.

Corey Feldman
06-13-2008, 04:33 PM
Should be Roddick with his never ending luckSee

MacTheKnife
06-13-2008, 05:15 PM
I am 100% certain that had they played, Andy would have won...