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BRAUNSCHWEIG: Playing Big In Braunschweig, Germany

NicoFan
06-11-2008, 12:20 PM
VAMOS NICO!

He needs to play big and go for it all here in Braunschweig so he can get the ship back on course! :yeah:

Entry List

Montanes, Albert ESP 60
Berlocq, Carlos ARG 84
Hernandez, Oscar ESP 86
Roitman, Sergio ARG 87
Vanek, Jiri CZE 93
Gimeno-Traver, Daniel ESP 98
Horna, Luis PER 102
Pashanski, Boris SRB 105
Odesnik, Wayne USA 106
Luczak, Peter AUS 114
Dabul, Brian ARG 118
Massu, Nicolas CHI 123
Gabashvili, Teimuraz RUS 126
Martin, Alberto ESP 132
Eschauer, Werner AUT 135
@ Saretta, Flavio BRA 136
Gonzalez, Maximo ARG 137
Devilder, Nicolas FRA 148
Andujar, Pablo ESP 151
Istomin, Denis UZB 152
Junqueira, Diego ARG 162
Koellerer, Daniel AUT 163

Alternates
1. @ Ulihrach, Bohdan CZE 165
2. Munoz-De La Nava, Daniel ESP 173
3. Puerta, Mariano ARG 195
4. Ulihrach, Bohdan CZE 218
5. Sanchez de Luna, Jose Antonio ESP 275
6. Guzman, Juan-Pablo ARG 282
7. Sitak, Artem RUS 318
8. Bemelmans, Ruben BEL 323
9. Sidorenko, Alexandre FRA 326
10. Azzaro, Leonardo ITA 332
11. Santos-Gonzalez, Pablo ESP 335
12. Felder, Marcel URU 336
13. Arnaboldi, Andrea ITA 337
14. Petrazzuolo, Giancarlo ITA 340
15. Gojowczyk, Peter GER 343

LOVELY
06-11-2008, 12:58 PM
Auf Geht's Nico !!! VAMOS VAMOS VAMOS !!!! Time to kick butts again :bounce:

TommyB.
06-13-2008, 09:32 AM
I'll probably go to Braunschweig at the final weekend, if Nico is still there. ;)

NicoFan
06-13-2008, 12:24 PM
I'll probably go to Braunschweig at the final weekend, if Nico is still there. ;)

Hopefully Nico will be there. :yeah:

You might want to go anyway. I went to a challenger when I was vacationing in California, and it was nice to watch the young players who might be higher up someday. And much more relaxed than a regular tournament.

LOVELY
06-14-2008, 08:00 PM
Nico's part of the draw :


(1)VANEK Jiri (CZE) vs Nico MASSU (CHI)
Qualifier vs (SE)HARTFIELD Diego (ARG)

SITAK Artem (RUS) vs (WC)STEBE Cedrick Marcel (GER)
MARTIN Alberto (ESP) vs (8)DABUL Brian (ARG)

NicoFan
06-14-2008, 11:04 PM
Of course Nico got the #1 seed. No luck... :shrug:

Let's hope he can pull it out - 2nd and 3rd rounds should be okay.

kidnicky
06-15-2008, 01:53 AM
:haha: at the draw :retard:

anyway let's wait for the best here

Vamos Nico! :rocker2:

FFGC
06-15-2008, 07:09 AM
Vamos Nico! Buena Suerte!

LOVELY
06-15-2008, 04:57 PM
Nico plays the doubles :yeah:
Monday's OOP :

Center Court

13 Uhr

Denis Istomin (UZB) vs Carlos Berlocq (ARG/2)

anschließend

Nikolas Holzen/Philipp Schünemann (GER) vs
Brian Dabul (ARG)/Nicolas Massu (CHI)

Court 9

13 Uhr

Maximo Gonzalez/Mariano Hood (ARG) vs
Leonardo Azzaro (ITA)/Sergio Roitman (ARG)

anschließend

Boy Westerhof (NED/Q) vs Jeremy Jahn (GER/WC)

anschließend

André Ghem (BRA/Q) vs Daniel Gimeno-Traver (ESP/3)


Court 5

14.30 Uhr

Flavio Saretta/Julio Silva (BRA) vs
Marco Crugnola (ITA)/Oscar Hernandez (ESP)

anschließend

Werner Eschauer (AUT) vs Daniel Munoz de la Nava (ESP)

NicoFan
06-15-2008, 07:47 PM
Glad to see that he's playing doubles. :yeah:

Alx
06-15-2008, 09:13 PM
nice to see Nico playing doubles again :)

kidnicky
06-16-2008, 03:36 AM
it'a a miracle :eek: :lol:

Sparko1030
06-16-2008, 01:10 PM
Good Luck to Nico :hatoff: and it is good to see him playing doubles :yeah:

NicoFan
06-16-2008, 01:13 PM
Nico's match s/b starting around now, but hard to tell because (of course) the live scoring isn't working.

LOVELY
06-16-2008, 01:28 PM
the livescoring is working now :)

NicoFan
06-16-2008, 01:40 PM
:wavey: Lovely - can you post the link? For some reason my live scoring is showing players who aren't even playing today... :eek: :lol:

LOVELY
06-16-2008, 01:42 PM
http://www.nordlb-open.org/index.php?id=241

on the left side ;)

NicoFan
06-16-2008, 01:51 PM
It must be my computer :( because it just shows a green dot. :shrug:

Alx
06-16-2008, 01:51 PM
http://www.nordlb-open.org/index.php?id=241

on the left side ;)
thanks but it doesn't work...

NicoFan
06-16-2008, 01:51 PM
Sorry it doesn't work for you too Alx but at least I know that it's not my computer. :shrug:

Stupid live tickers. :rolleyes:

LOVELY
06-16-2008, 01:52 PM
it worked but now it's frozen...

NicoFan
06-16-2008, 01:54 PM
Now if you click on live scoring, it appears to be working, but it's still odd. I don't know what "satz" is. :lol: But if it's the current score, then Nico-Brian are up 3-0. :yeah:

Alx
06-16-2008, 01:59 PM
satz means set (but I don't know where you saw that :confused: )

LOVELY
06-16-2008, 02:01 PM
4-0 for Nico and Brian :bounce:

LOVELY
06-16-2008, 02:02 PM
5-0 :)

NicoFan
06-16-2008, 02:06 PM
6-0!!!

I hope that the scoreboard is right. :eek:

They have Dabul playing a singles match at the same time. :shrug:

LOVELY
06-16-2008, 02:08 PM
I'm sure it's right ;)
Nico and Dabul are a pretty good team on clay it seems :)

NicoFan
06-16-2008, 02:12 PM
Yes, they do seem like a good team. :yeah:

NicoFan
06-16-2008, 02:14 PM
And I just checked Daniel Gimeno-Traver is playing Andre Ghem. :lol:

LOVELY
06-16-2008, 02:36 PM
6-0 6-2 :woohoo:
well done chicos :yeah:

NicoFan
06-16-2008, 02:37 PM
:woohoo:

Yeay for Nico and Brian!!!

:bounce:

Great win. :yeah:

Alx
06-16-2008, 02:45 PM
:banana:

Sparko1030
06-16-2008, 03:53 PM
:yippee:

LOVELY
06-16-2008, 03:58 PM
Tuesday OOP

Center Court
matches start at 12.30pm

Artem SITAK (RUS) vs Cedrick-Marcel STEBE (GER)
followed by
Peter GOJOWCZYK (GER) vs Younes EL AYNAOUI (MAR)
followed by
Oscar HERNANDEZ (ESP) vs Jose Antonio SANCHEZ DE LA LUNA (ESP)

not before 6pm
Jiri VANEK (CZE) vs Nico MASSU (CHI) :bounce:

NicoFan
06-16-2008, 06:28 PM
VAMOS NICO! YOU CAN DO IT! :fiery:

(Good time for me. :yeah:)

FFGC
06-16-2008, 06:29 PM
Congrats! :bigclap::hug::yeah:
Vamos Nico! Buena Suerte!

Alx
06-16-2008, 07:33 PM
(good time for me too :o)

VAMOOS NICOO !!! :bounce:

TommyB.
06-16-2008, 09:37 PM
Auf geht's Nico! :)

kidnicky
06-17-2008, 02:39 AM
Congrats for the double's win Nico :yeah:

Auf geht's tomorrow :fiery: :rocker2:

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 04:18 PM
Nico is on the sb. :yeah: (Along with a bunch of name that don't belong there, but hey, it's tennis. :rolleyes:)

VAMOS NICO!

And for the lucky people who can see the live streaming, please let us peasants in America know what Nico is wearing and how he looks.

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 04:28 PM
VAMOOOOOOOOOS NICO!!!! :fiery:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 04:30 PM
hmmmm.....looks like they're playing mixed doubles now :rolls: I can see following this sb will be "fun" :rolleyes: ;)

LOVELY
06-17-2008, 04:32 PM
No livestream for me because I don't want to pay :tape: it's not free :sad:

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 04:48 PM
At least the score is working. :lol:

And oh no you have to pay now???

That sucks. :sad:

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 04:50 PM
Who served first?

I'm superstituous - I can't follow the first game. :lol:

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 05:03 PM
4-1 Vanek... :bigcry:

It's a freaking challenger, and he still can't win.

No changes, no new coach, no new results. :sad:

I can't do this anymore. :shrug:

Alx
06-17-2008, 05:03 PM
Vanek served first
Nico wears black short, a white and black shirt and a white cap

Alx
06-17-2008, 05:10 PM
Nico broke back :) *3-4

LOVELY
06-17-2008, 05:16 PM
Alx did you pay to watch the match or did you find a free livestream???

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:16 PM
So then Vanek breaks Nico again :awww: 3-5*

Well, break him again Nico!

Alx
06-17-2008, 05:19 PM
Alx did you pay to watch the match or did you find a free livestream???
I pay a long time ago before the stream was free :o

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:20 PM
first set Vanek :( 6-3

Take the 2nd set (and the 3rd ;) ) You CAN do it Nico!!!


VAMOOOOOOOS!!!! :fiery:

LOVELY
06-17-2008, 05:25 PM
I pay a long time ago before the stream was free :o


I tried to find a free livestream but I didn't :sad:
I love Nico but I don't want to pay 10€ to watch his matches online :tape:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:28 PM
YES!!! Break for Nico!!! up 2*-0 :bounce: Now keep your lead.....

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:31 PM
I tried to find a free livestream but I didn't :sad:
I love Nico but I don't want to pay 10€ to watch his matches online :tape:

:lol: I'm like you Lovely-I don't like to pay eihter. ;)


30*-30-don't let him break back now PLEASE!!!

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:32 PM
duece-fingers crossed :lol:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:33 PM
whew!!! he held!!! 3*-0 Keep it up!!!

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:38 PM
:eek: Nico breaks again!!!! 4*-0 :banana:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:40 PM
I didnt' think I was gone that long but it looks like Vanek broke back. 4-1*

Don't loose this lead Nico!

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:46 PM
4*-2, bp for Vanek :awww:

HOLD NICO!!! HOLD!!!

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 05:47 PM
Come on Nico hold!

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:48 PM
duece....HOLD!!!

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 05:49 PM
4-3 Nico...broken again, and back on serve. :sad:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:50 PM
:awww: broken 4-3*

Please break back NIco!

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:50 PM
:wavey: Nicofan

I thought Nico had such a good lead but alas....

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:55 PM
so much for his 4-0 lead, 4*-4 now

HOLD NOW NICO!!! VAMOOOOOOOS!!!

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 05:56 PM
This is painful to follow... :sad:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 05:58 PM
Nico held :yeah: 5-4* Now break for the set Nico!!! You can do it!!!

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:02 PM
5*-5 Hold please Nico

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:05 PM
6-5 Nico on serve.

VAMOS NICO!

And forgot :) :wavey: Sparko!

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:10 PM
Nice... :yeah:

Second set to Nico 7-5.

VAMOS NICO IN THE 3RD SET!

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:10 PM
:lol: that's ok Nicofan

adv Nico/set point Nico....

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:11 PM
YES!!! 2nd set Nico!!! wins 7-5 on a break!!! :yeah:

NOw for the 3rd. Do it a little easier this time please Nico ;)

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:12 PM
Okay my post didn't post. :shrug: :lol:

YEAY FOR NICO!!

VAMOS IN THE 3RD SET! :fiery:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:18 PM
Okay my post didn't post. :shrug: :lol:

YEAY FOR NICO!!

VAMOS IN THE 3RD SET! :fiery:

I hate when that happens :awww:


bp for Vanek on Nico's first serve of the 3rd set>

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:18 PM
duece....

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:21 PM
:rolleyes:

Nico... :banghead:

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:21 PM
I really need to find another player to root for. :awww:

Who needs this crap week after week. :shrug:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:26 PM
Well, despite driving us crazy, we're still here :lol:

Speaking of driving us crazy, still Nico's first serve and its about the millionth duece. Nico's is blatantly ignoring my request for an easy win in the 3rd.....:retard: :lol:

WIN THIS GAME NICO!!!

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:27 PM
He held...

1-0

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:29 PM
Now the sb seems frozen at duece...

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:30 PM
He held...

1-0


Thank goodness!!! the sb still says duece :(

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:34 PM
My sb is stuck now. :shrug:

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:37 PM
I was afraid of this. Vanek held, and now Nico is down 0-30.

COME ON NICO - FIGHT! :fiery:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:40 PM
:awww:

What sb are you using Nicofan? or are you watching a livestream? (the site sb is still frozen for me :p )

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:45 PM
The official web site's sb. It's moving now, but it's a long deuce game.

I have to go to work in an hour and 15 minutes - at this rate, do you think the match will be done by then??? ;) :lol:

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:45 PM
Shit Vanek broke.

Nico. :mad:

Come on Nico....fight!

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:51 PM
:awww: That was the one I was using too and its still frozen for me. :shrug:

Break Back Nico!!!

No, at this rate this match will go on forever, or at least it will feel like that :p

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:52 PM
2-2

Was I counting the serving right?

I think Nico served first in this set.

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 06:52 PM
Yeah, he did :)

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 06:56 PM
Then he's about to be broken yet again. :rolleyes:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 07:00 PM
:banghead:

NICO!!!! :mad:


(thanks for the score though Nicofan-even if it is bad news :lol: )

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:01 PM
3-2 he was broken. :sad:

Nico... :banghead:

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:03 PM
:wavey: FFGC!

FFGC
06-17-2008, 07:03 PM
Hi all! :wavey:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 07:04 PM
Some good news for me at least, the sb is working for me again, just in time too since you have to leave for work soon :)

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 07:04 PM
Hi FFGC! :wavey: Maybe you will bring some good luck for Nico :lol:

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:04 PM
:wavey: FFGC!

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:04 PM
4-2 Vanek... :sad:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 07:05 PM
2*-4 YOU CAN WIN THIS YET NICO!!! :fiery:

(always the optimist here-well almost always :p :lol: )

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:10 PM
4*-3 Vanek

Gotta break now.

FFGC
06-17-2008, 07:11 PM
Ou :awww:

Vamos Nico! Hold! Please!

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:13 PM
30-30

COME ON NICO! :fiery:

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:14 PM
5-3* Vanek..

Vanek will have to choke for Nico to win this. :sad:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 07:17 PM
:rolleyes: sb frozen for me again, on the bright side, though, it may be less painful for me this way :awww:

Please choke Vanek, and keep on fighting Nico!!!

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:18 PM
5*-4

Vanek serving for the match... :sad:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 07:20 PM
:sad: still hoping for a miracle though....

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:21 PM
sb is frozen right at the end...Vanek up 30-0...

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 07:21 PM
UGH!!!!! stuid sb!!! :mad: I wonder how the match will turn out? :p

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:24 PM
I was hoping someone who was watching it would post the score????

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 07:27 PM
Me too, Nicofan :awww: Alx and Lovely disapeared. Are you still here FFGC?

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:27 PM
Guess not. :sad:

And the sb isn't moving.

I guess he lost.

Whatever...not anything new. :sad:

Sparko1030
06-17-2008, 07:29 PM
It is most likely he lost the way it was going. :awww: I hope I'm wrong but....I will check back later to see if anyone has the score.

:hug: Nicofan it is a bit tough being a fan of Nico's these days....I so much want him to do well and it is so hard to see him go through times like these.

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:34 PM
I want him to do well too. It's really painful to follow these matches, knowing in the end, it will be another loss. :sad:

At this point, I feel like just taking a break from following him until he gets a new coach. This lack of doing anything at all to change what is going on is very disappointing to watch. More than the losing. At least try something different.

NicoFan
06-17-2008, 07:36 PM
Someone on the challenger thread posted the score.

He lost. :sad:

LOVELY
06-17-2008, 07:40 PM
Nico lost 3-6 7-5 6-4 in a 2h50 match

LOVELY
06-17-2008, 07:41 PM
France is playing so that's why I didn't post but I still followed Nico ;)

TommyB.
06-17-2008, 09:14 PM
bye bye Braunschweig :(

LOVELY
06-17-2008, 09:26 PM
Wednesday OOP

Center court
Matches start at 1pm

Boris PASHANSKI (SRB) vs Pablo ANDUJAR (ESP)
followed by
Werner ESCHAUER (AUT) vs Carlos BERLOCQ (ARG)

not before 4pm

Pablo ANDUJAR/Daniel GIMENO-TRAVER (ESP) vs Brian DABUL (ARG)/Nico MASSU (CHI)

not before 6pm
Teiramuz GABASHVILI (RUS) vs Nicolas DEVILDER (FRA)

FFGC
06-17-2008, 09:43 PM
No! Cannot be... he lost :sad:

FFGC
06-17-2008, 09:47 PM
Hi FFGC! :wavey: Maybe you will bring some good luck for Nico :lol:

Me too, Nicofan :awww: Alx and Lovely disapeared. Are you still here FFGC?

It would be desirable, but I had to leave, I have passed all...:sad:

kidnicky
06-18-2008, 02:54 AM
:rolleyes: damn it! he couldn't hold on a little bit more? Tommy was supposed to see him and now :retard: ... keep celebrating Everton's title Nico :mad: :p

ChinoRios4Ever
06-18-2008, 03:51 AM
:sad:

LOVELY
06-18-2008, 04:12 PM
:wavey:

If the scoreboard is reliable Nico and B.Dabul won the first set 6-2 :)

LOVELY
06-18-2008, 05:04 PM
They won :woohoo:
6-2 6-1 :yeah:

Alx
06-18-2008, 05:06 PM
:woohoo:

LOVELY
06-18-2008, 05:19 PM
No Nico and Brian tomorrow as their future opponents have to play their match :p

NicoFan
06-18-2008, 05:25 PM
:yeah: for Nico and Brian.

FFGC
06-18-2008, 06:08 PM
Excellent victory! I congratulate Nico and Brian! :clap2:

LOVELY
06-19-2008, 03:13 PM
Nico & Brian will play against Eschauer/Oswald the austrian team, in semis :)

LOVELY
06-19-2008, 04:58 PM
Friday OOP
Court 9
Matches start at 3pm

Nicolas DEVILDER (FRA) vs Andre GHEM (BRA)

followed by (after suitable rest)

Brian DABUL (ARG)/Nico MASSU (CHI) vs Werner ESCHAUER/Philipp OSWALD (AUT)

NicoFan
06-19-2008, 06:06 PM
Buena suerte to Nico y Brian!!! :yeah:

(I will miss the match - I have meetings all day tomorrow - so take good care of Nico for me. :))

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 05:02 PM
Match time :)

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 05:21 PM
1-1

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 05:31 PM
1-3* The austrians serving now

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 05:34 PM
1*-4

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 05:39 PM
1-5*

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 05:52 PM
they lost the first set :awww:
6-1 for the Austrian team

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 06:00 PM
3-3 Nico/Brian serving now

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 06:04 PM
3-4* the Austrian team broke

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 06:11 PM
3*-5

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 06:15 PM
6-1 6-3 for the Austrian team :awww:

NicoFan
06-20-2008, 08:16 PM
Nico should probably takes doubles a bit more seriously - the scoreline shows that they didn't try very hard - but given his lack of success in singles, he might need those pay checks for doubles wins.

Very poor showing... :(

LOVELY
06-20-2008, 08:54 PM
Nico should probably takes doubles a bit more seriously - the scoreline shows that they didn't try very hard - but given his lack of success in singles, he might need those pay checks for doubles wins.

Very poor showing... :(
in doubles there are 2 players and Dabul played his single match not a long time before (maybe 1h30 before)and he's also in Wimbly MD ;)so...

NicoFan
06-21-2008, 12:46 AM
Then maybe he should pick his doubles partners more carefully. ;)

I'm serious when I say that doubles may be his future. And no, I'm not being mean - just practical. He might want to put some thought into selecting a partner who he can team up with over and over again. He's a very good doubles player, and I think can be successful.

kidnicky
06-21-2008, 03:00 AM
even Dabul is in the GS MD ... fantastic :retard: :silly:

TommyB.
06-21-2008, 09:10 AM
even Dabul is in the GS MD ... fantastic :retard: :silly:

Yes I think they tanked because of it. ;)

LOVELY
06-21-2008, 11:03 AM
Then maybe he should pick his doubles partners more carefully. ;)
I'm serious when I say that doubles may be his future. And no, I'm not being mean - just practical. He might want to put some thought into selecting a partner who he can team up with over and over again. He's a very good doubles player, and I think can be successful.


Nico's ranking in doubles in not that good (I think he's 180 or something like that)...Dabul is #100 in doubles so I think it's not Nico who decides...Having Dabul as a partner was a good choice anyway ;)

Yes I think they tanked because of it. ;)

That's what I think too ;)

NicoFan
06-21-2008, 11:10 AM
Lovely - you aren't understanding what I am saying. ;) I know Nico's doubles ranking sucks. He rarely plays now. But he's career in singles is obviously nearing an end. So if he wants to continue playing, he might consider working on his doubles ranking. In order to do so, he might want to select a player who is willing to repeatedly team up with him so they can try to move up in the doubles world. Many former singles player choose this route when they realize that they can't win singles as much anymore. I don't think Nico would admit that he's at that point now, but I think he's going to have to face the reality of the situation soon.

And he did tank, and that's why I said he shouldn't tank. If he has a partner who wants to tank, then again, he should select someone who won't tank. In my opinion, if he wants to continue to play, doubles may be in the cards and he needs to focus on doubles play more.

LOVELY
06-21-2008, 12:47 PM
Lovely - you aren't understanding what I am saying. ;) I know Nico's doubles ranking sucks. He rarely plays now. But he's career in singles is obviously nearing an end. So if he wants to continue playing, he might consider working on his doubles ranking. In order to do so, he might want to select a player who is willing to repeatedly team up with him so they can try to move up in the doubles world. Many former singles player choose this route when they realize that they can't win singles as much anymore. I don't think Nico would admit that he's at that point now, but I think he's going to have to face the reality of the situation soon.

And he did tank, and that's why I said he shouldn't tank. If he has a partner who wants to tank, then again, he should select someone who won't tank. In my opinion, if he wants to continue to play, doubles may be in the cards and he needs to focus on doubles play more.

He can't select.His ranking doesn't allow him to "select" someone...Players with higher ranking have to agree to play with him ... I think he doesn't have choice because of his ranking...He always has to find someone with higher rank to enter any doubles MD... And it's not easy to play with the same partner in each tournament because there are always 3or 4 challengers each week and each player has his own schedule...


And I don't think that Dabul knew they would reach the semis when they began the tournament ;) And it's just a Challenger so it's not that important if they tanked ;)

NicoFan
06-21-2008, 03:20 PM
That's exactly the problem....just because it's a challenger, doesn't mean that it's not important. :shrug: His ranking sucks - in both singles and doubles. He needs all the points he can get - even lowly challenger points.

I'm sure he wouldn't have problems getting a higher ranked doubles player - if they knew he would take it seriously. The problem is he doesn't take it seriously - it's only doubles after all :rolleyes: - he tanks when he doesn't feel like playing doubles - so why would someone who takes doubles seriously want to be his partner now?

He needs to change his attitude towards doubles - and then he won't have that problem anymore. Because he's an excellent doubles player - won the gold - I doubt if he were serious that any player with brains would turn him down. ;)

Sparko1030
06-21-2008, 04:37 PM
Yeah, Nico should have the rep as being a good doubles players despite his current low ranking-that's how he earned his other gold medal afterall ;) He has to look and be motivated though-even at a challanger. And he has to start somewhere-because it is almost like he is starting out all over again. Obviously it is hard work and it must really suck when you've been in the top 10 and are now playing challengers but that is his reality now. That is why he really, really has to want to continue if it is going to be worth his while.

NicoFan
06-21-2008, 06:00 PM
Yeah, Nico should have the rep as being a good doubles players despite his current low ranking-that's how he earned his other gold medal afterall ;) He has to look and be motivated though-even at a challanger. And he has to start somewhere-because it is almost like he is starting out all over again. Obviously it is hard work and it must really suck when you've been in the top 10 and are now playing challengers but that is his reality now. That is why he really, really has to want to continue if it is going to be worth his while.

Precisely. :yeah:

And I have to say that I hate tanking. :( I don't care who it is, or what tournament it is, or what the reason is. It's wrong. It's against everything sport is about. Very disrespectful to the game as a whole, the sponsors, and the fans.

I give Nico a lot of credit for playing challengers - very proud of him for that. But he has to do more - he's got to change his attitude and the way he thinks. I know he's not Andre (there's only one Andre), but I think of the way Andre handled coming back - it's the exact opposite of what Nico is doing. Andre assembled a great team - Nico doesn't have the money to do that but he should get the best that he can. Andre worked day and night - up even on New Year's Day 6:00 a.m. running the hills around Las Vegas. Complete sacrifice. Nico has to have that same attitude if he wants to comeback.

And to make Kid loca here... :lol: ... Andre got a good woman by his side too to help him out. ;) :lol:

LOVELY
06-21-2008, 07:55 PM
Once again in doubles you are 2...What to do if your partner wants to tank?...

NicoFan
06-21-2008, 11:03 PM
I realize that at times it is the partner who wants to tank.

I just want Nico to do everything he possible can to be successful in every match now. If he wants to comeback, he has to start thinking everything through (including doubles partners) and pick up points everywhere he can. Every loss in singles and doubles is a lost opportunity for much needed points. He has to treat his career with care right now.

LOVELY
06-21-2008, 11:21 PM
Dabul is a good doubles partner and was not due to enter Wimbly MD ...He reached MD because of withdrawals...

kidnicky
06-22-2008, 03:36 AM
you're not making me loca NF, like you said, there's only one Andre so that's why I know that the finding a good woman part won't apply for Nico as long with other things that Andre did to come back to the top. And well not to be pesimistic, just realistic, but actually is not like we could be that proud of Nico playing challengers, unfortunatly with his actual ranking it's the only choice that he has :o ... and all this subject it's the same thing that we have discussed over and over again, when it's not doubles, it's because it's only a challenger and it's because it's only an exhibition, all excuses after all, like NF said, tanking is disrespectfull not only for the sport, for the fans, for the tournament and for everything that didn't come to my mind right now :p

LOVELY
06-22-2008, 09:39 AM
I never said tanking is a good thing but I said that it's not fair to blame Nico for that !!! And I can understand they tanked ( BUT that doesn't mean I agree )...Being in Wimbly MD is more important than a semis in doubles in a Challenger...

NicoFan
06-22-2008, 03:54 PM
Lovely - no one is blaming Nico for this latest lost. We're just saying that he has to take care of his career better. :shrug: Given his ranking, I think that's good advice.

Others may have leeway to tank, but right now, he does not.

LOVELY
06-22-2008, 03:58 PM
Maybe he should have played alone against the Austrian team...or beg Dabul to "play" ...After all Dabul could have travelled today to England and get ready to play on grass in less than one day...

NicoFan
06-22-2008, 04:00 PM
I feel as if I am writing in Greek. :rolls: AGAIN, NO ONE IS BLAMING NICO FOR THE LATEST TANK!!!!! It's the PATTERN that we are talking about. It's happened before. AND WE WANT NICO TO TAKE MORE CARE IN THE FUTURE OVER HIS CAREER!!!!!!!!!!!! We feel that he has no choice anymore but to do that.

:haha:

LOVELY
06-22-2008, 04:07 PM
Nico takes care of his career..I mean he could have tried to qualify in Wimbly but he prefered playing Challengers on Clay to gain points. I think it's a good choice..

kidnicky
06-23-2008, 03:25 AM
you're not writing in greek but maybe in chinese? :scratch: :rolls: