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Rafa Slam?

Jaffas85
06-11-2008, 11:07 AM
First of all, I'm aware that creating a thread like this right after Nadal won a 4th French Open by crushing Federer in the final will make this look simply like a "bandwagon" thread yet with the way Nadal played the French Open and demolished Federer in the final isn't it a realistic possibility (if he maintains the intensity he showed during the French)?

I believe Nadal is the favourite going into Wimbledon considering his current form, how he almost won last year and that he basically owns Federer mentally. Should Nadal win Wimbledon wouldn't we have to look at the possibility of a "Rafa Slam" as being somewhat realistic?

Between the U.S. Open and Australian Open, the U.S. Open is clearly going to be the toughest for Nadal to win because its towards the end of the year and played on a pretty fast hardcourt surface yet with his current form and if he maintains his intensity and structures a wise schedule between Wimbledon and the U.S. Open (and should he also win Wimbledon he will have boundless confidence) I think he would have a strong chance.

Then, if he has three under his belt, it would be far more likely he would clinch the "Rafa Slam" by winning the 2009 Australian Open than when Federer had a chance to win the "Roger Slam" in 2006 and 2007 if he had won the French Open.

So, do you think it is realistic he could attain the "Rafa Slam" by winning the next three Grand Slams if he maintains his current form, confidence and intensity or even if he wins Wimbledon will winning the U.S. Open be beyond him?

Thanks.

leng jai
06-11-2008, 11:09 AM
Yes.

Action Jackson
06-11-2008, 11:12 AM
Rafa will win 20 Slams.

17 RGs and 1 each of the others.

rafa_maniac
06-11-2008, 11:44 AM
I believe Rafa will end his career with 6 RGs and 1 Wimbledon. I honestly don't care if he ever wins a Hardcourt slam, as long as he gets a Wimbledon title.

Bazooka
06-11-2008, 11:46 AM
Possible, just not very likely.

If he wins Wimbledon, I think this can be discussed.

Tnn74
06-11-2008, 12:10 PM
He needs to concentrate on stackin' up his RG's and
going one further at Wimbledon first and foremost...
once he gets his first Wimbly the other 2 will come in time :angel:

bokehlicious
06-11-2008, 01:07 PM
I'm confused... Weeks ago we were all talking about Nole's Golden Slam and here we go again with Nadal's slam? :confused: you gotta love MTF :)

Okonsky
06-11-2008, 01:14 PM
I'm confused... Weeks ago we were all talking about Nole's Golden Slam and here we go again with Nadal's slam? :confused: you gotta love MTF :)

I'm confused... Weeks ago we were all talking about Nole's Golden Slam and here we go again with Nadal's slam? :confused: you gotta love MTF :)

bokehlicious
06-11-2008, 01:16 PM
BAN! :o

arm
06-11-2008, 01:19 PM
What the hell.. :confused:

What's going on here? :confused: :shrug:

EDIT: I forgot to answer the question: Rafa winning US Open.. :haha:

bokehlicious
06-11-2008, 01:20 PM
What the hell.. :confused:

What's going on here? :confused: :shrug:

Manon is having a hard time finding his brain today :shrug: happens sometimes... :shrug: :o

arm
06-11-2008, 01:22 PM
Manon is having a hard time finding his brain today :shrug: happens sometimes... :shrug: :o

I really am confused. :confused: There must be a mistake because he quoted you. :shrug:

Ceri
06-11-2008, 01:34 PM
I believe Rafa will end his career with 6 RGs and 1 Wimbledon. I honestly don't care if he ever wins a Hardcourt slam, as long as he gets a Wimbledon title.
only 6 RGs? Surely he'll get more tahn that. but yes, I def. think he'll get Wimby eventually

Bernard Black
06-11-2008, 01:34 PM
Ok, I'll give this an honest response.

Absolutely no chance at winning a calender slam, far too many players can beat him on hardcourts. The problem is for him, even if his hardcourt form improves over the next few years, there will youngsters coming through with their fresh, hardcourt-honed games who will also be able to take it to him so I can't see him ever winning the U.S. or Australian Open.

There's a chance he could win Wimbledon though. As we've seen with a favourable draw he's always likely to go deep there, but there are still a large handful of players who can school him on grass so it will be quite an achievement if he manages it.

Okonsky
06-11-2008, 02:12 PM
BAN! :o

You're dead man:). I agreed with you word by word so...I copied.

Beforehand
06-11-2008, 02:19 PM
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

He's not even the favorite for Wimbledon, just because he's a heavy contender to win it. Since when does playing awesome claycourt tennis even count as the type of "current form" that would win Wimbledon, and especially the U.S. Open?

schorsch
06-11-2008, 02:21 PM
where's the nothing but rg option ? pfff

bokehlicious
06-11-2008, 02:42 PM
You're dead man:). I agreed with you word by word so...I copied.

:lol: then next time say that you agree, and don't copy/paste :o :p ;)

Okonsky
06-11-2008, 02:47 PM
:lol: then next time say that you agree, and don't copy/paste :o :p ;)

Deal. But you're right about my today's slow brain:)

cool bird1
06-11-2008, 02:52 PM
I think people are going a bit OTT Rafa is an amazing clay court player. But he is not an amazing all court player 27 titles only three have come on hardcourts.
That tells me something.

Clay Death
06-11-2008, 03:02 PM
He needs to concentrate on stackin' up his RG's and
going one further at Wimbledon first and foremost...
once he gets his first Wimbly the other 2 will come in time :angel:


well said. he can easily take home 7-8 Roland Garros titles. along the way, just 1 Wimby will be sufficient.

his style of play is very demanding so no need to run after everything. its best to protect his health and his longevity as a top pro.

Fumus
06-11-2008, 04:20 PM
I love the options on this poll. Where's the option for Rafa will make the second week at the other slams but won't ever win one on another surface because there are too many players that are capable of beating him on them.

In other news, Rafa's best chance to win another slam besides RG was last year. He missed it, when he blew those break point chances in the 5th set at Wimbledon. :o

Bazooka
06-11-2008, 04:36 PM
well said. he can easily take home 7-8 Roland Garros titles. along the way, just 1 Wimby will be sufficient.

his style of play is very demanding so no need to run after everything. its best to protect his health and his longevity as a top pro.

Not true. Just because he started so young to win everything on clay, don't think he can't be rock solid on other surfaces. Was he running much against Djokovic in the SF? who was running more? Was he hitting with topspin on every shot? watch it again. There's something new this year. That's why, adding is already excellent skills, this RG was such a walkover: serve and offense are new. Roger said it on an interview: he's no longer having so many short balls.

Of course I am not saying he will be the next JesusFed and win 3 slams per year.

Pea
06-11-2008, 06:02 PM
Rafa hasn't performed his best at the USOpen. Call me when he reaches the semis there first.

octatennis
06-11-2008, 06:55 PM
there are always possiblities, but it is pretty hard specially us open, i can see him wining wimbledon and maybe aus open... although he is still very young and have all the strokes, whrn he grow up and start playing offensive on fast courts then he can win everything. :wavey::wavey:

JimmyV
06-11-2008, 06:59 PM
Thats funny, cause just the other day I was thinking that First of all, I'm aware that creating a thread like this right after Nadal won a 4th French Open by crushing Federer in the final will make this look simply like a "bandwagon" thread yet with the way Nadal played the French Open and demolished Federer in the final isn't it a realistic possibility (if he maintains the intensity he showed during the French)?

I believe Nadal is the favourite going into Wimbledon considering his current form, how he almost won last year and that he basically owns Federer mentally. Should Nadal win Wimbledon wouldn't we have to look at the possibility of a "Rafa Slam" as being somewhat realistic?

Between the U.S. Open and Australian Open, the U.S. Open is clearly going to be the toughest for Nadal to win because its towards the end of the year and played on a pretty fast hardcourt surface yet with his current form and if he maintains his intensity and structures a wise schedule between Wimbledon and the U.S. Open (and should he also win Wimbledon he will have boundless confidence) I think he would have a strong chance.

Then, if he has three under his belt, it would be far more likely he would clinch the "Rafa Slam" by winning the 2009 Australian Open than when Federer had a chance to win the "Roger Slam" in 2006 and 2007 if he had won the French Open.

So, do you think it is realistic he could attain the "Rafa Slam" by winning the next three Grand Slams if he maintains his current form, confidence and intensity or even if he wins Wimbledon will winning the U.S. Open be beyond him?

Thanks.

Merton
06-11-2008, 07:41 PM
According to the MTF consensus back in March, Nadal is expected to retire at the end of the year so he will be unable to complete the slam at the AO next year. :sad:

ToniTennis
06-13-2008, 04:25 PM
I think people are going a bit OTT Rafa is an amazing clay court player. But he is not an amazing all court player 27 titles only three have come on hardcourts.
That tells me something.

Not that I am not a fan of him, of course, but I believe that, if anything, he is underrated. Take Roger or Rafa off the general equation and the former would be GOAT beyond doubt (he still needs that FO, imho) and the latter would have at least 2 more GSs plus several other HC titles. They just happen to be "unlucky" enough to be playing in the same time frame.

Btw, I know this is a little off-thread, but if we are to do some math, Roger has "only" 7 clay court titles out of 54 so far. The ratio is quite the same as Rafa, only reversed. Is he a bad clay-courter, then? Does this mean he'll never get the FO?

Peace...

GlennMirnyi
06-13-2008, 04:33 PM
Nadal will go on now to win 35 GSs.

Sunset of Age
06-13-2008, 04:43 PM
Rafa the favourite to win Wimbly? What have you been smoking??? :silly:

Hey folks, don't forget to bump this thread as soon as the grass season is over... :lol:

Johnny Groove
06-13-2008, 04:47 PM
:retard:

In the hard court season, people on this board say Nadal is finished and he wont win RG. After he romps through yet another clay season, the same people now suddenly want to annoint him king of the Earth and predict him to win the slams and shit like that :retard:

Hard court failures do not mean clay failures just as clay success does not mean fast court success

lurker
06-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Whoa...we need to back up and consider if Rafa has a chance to win Wimbledon this year first! While it's almost a given that no matter who Federer faces in the draw, he will stroll to the final, it is NOT so easy to say the same for Rafa. He has less of a chance of getting to the final than Fed. There are more players who can defeat Rafa than there are who can defeat Fed (though the early part of this year, Fed had been trying to catch up on that stat! LOL)

Now, IF the two face each other in the final, what chance does Rafa have to win? Last year, I gave him less than 10%...and he STILL almost did it. This year, IF he gets to the final to face Fed, I give Rafa about 45% chance. (I'll keep my fingers crossed that I am horribly underestimating him again.)

Can Rafa win the Rafa slam this year? In a word, no. As much as I would like to see him win it, I don't see it happening. However, he is still relatively young, and frighteningly enough (for his competition), it appears his game is STILL improving. After Tsonga drubbed him at the Aus Open by taking advantage of those short balls, he has adjusted. His serve has improved. Hopefully, all will transfer to his hardcourt game this summer, and his knees will be ok and we'll see how he does this year.

Fedex
06-13-2008, 05:33 PM
Rafa will win 20 Slams.

17 RGs and 1 each of the others.

I was thinking more along the lines of 22 slams, with 19 RG. I guess we agree to disagree.

Fedex
06-13-2008, 05:36 PM
I'm confused... Weeks ago we were all talking about Nole's Golden Slam and here we go again with Nadal's slam? :confused: you gotta love MTF :)

Djokotards.......... so original and clever.

jcempire
06-13-2008, 06:01 PM
too early

I think he could...............

MacTheKnife
06-13-2008, 06:24 PM
How come there's not a NO button ?? Is that not even an option..

FedererSlam
06-13-2008, 06:49 PM
The tennis cycle continues. Player goes on a streak they will win everything for foreseeable future:

-Fed Wimby onward 2006 though to be fair he won quite alot after that :D
-Rafa mid 2007
-Fed Wimby onwards 2007
-Nalby late 2007
-Djoko early 2008
-Nadal middle 2008

This feat your expecting is basically the same as Serena's but Nadal is damn good but not that good an all court player.

Jaffas85
07-07-2008, 03:34 AM
Now that Nadal has won both the 08' French Open and 08' Wimbledon I think it is worth considering the possibility of a "Rafa Slam".

If Nadal is well rested going into the North American hardcourt season and remains healthy I think he will at least make the semi finals of the U.S. Open (probably along with Federer and Djokovic) and is a serious contender to winning the U.S. Open, which would mean he would be sitting on 3 major titles for the year and one title away from a "Rafa Slam".

I think winning the U.S. Open will be harder for Nadal than winning the Australian Open (as the U.S. is quicker) though if he manages to clinch the U.S. Open I think he will be so determined to claim the Australian Open.

Also, If Nadal were to win the "Rafa Slam", which would bring his Grand Slam total to 7, how would we view him as among the all time "tennis greats"? By winning all 4 in a row, something Federer hasn't achieved, would we then have to rate him above Federer in terms of "GOAT" quality despite still having 5 less major titles than Federer?

Thanks.