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Who will be No 1 Ranking before US OPEN

jcempire
06-09-2008, 12:28 AM
That means who will get No 1 seed in US OPEN

Roger

Nadal

Djok

Only three option

I still believe Roger would get No 1 seed again. But If DJok whins WIM, things would be difference.

Or If Nadal wins it, He may have chance to be No 1 ranking first time in his career

l_mac
06-09-2008, 12:37 AM
Federer.

dmit424
06-09-2008, 01:00 AM
I have no idea. I still think it will be Federer, BUT...

I do get a bad feeling about Roger and Wimby this year, though. Not sure why. He just seems weak mentally right now and I think Djokovic and Nadal both have a sizable mental edge over him, Djokovic having defeated him at AO, Nadal of course at this FO. When was the last time Roger came into Wimby without a GS title on the year? 2005. Back then, there was less emphasis placed on Roger winning the FO, but now he's coming into Wimby having to deal with the concern that he really may never win the FO (I am assuming he has this concern right now). I don't know. Roger did not play well today, and his mental state has to be as low as can be for a number one player (so it is still high, but not as it used to be). Tennis is a mental game, especially on the ATP level. With Djokovic steadily improving and Nadal, having given him a very tough Wimby final last year, just whooping him like he has never been whooped, how do you think Roger will be feeling when he faces either one at Wimby?

A few years ago, before Nadal and Djokovic "arrived," there was a feeling that Roger wasn't playing against anyone on the tour, because they were all too easy, and instead playing against history and the measures of sports greatness. Then, Nadal became a sort of itch. Nadal came just in time to disallow Roger the FO crown, because by all accounts, Roger would have been a career Grand Slam player had Nadal "arrived" one year later, or perhaps been born a year later. So then there was a sort of rivalry, although each player clearly dominant on their surface of strength. Then, Djokovic came and beat Federer at the AO. Federer was sick, but I think it still had a mental effect on him. For the first time, it truly feels like Roger is not completely dominant anymore, and not a heavy favorite for any title.

We shall see.

Bernard Black
06-09-2008, 01:07 AM
I have no idea. I still think it will be Federer, BUT...

I do get a bad feeling about Roger and Wimby this year, though. Not sure why. He just seems weak mentally right now and I think Djokovic and Nadal both have a sizable mental edge over him, Djokovic having defeated him at AO, Nadal of course at this FO. When was the last time Roger came into Wimby without a GS title on the year? 2005. Back then, there was less emphasis placed on Roger winning the FO, but now he's coming into Wimby having to deal with the concern that he really may never win the FO (I am assuming he has this concern right now). I don't know. Roger did not play well today, and his mental state has to be as low as can be for a number one player (so it is still high, but not as it used to be). Tennis is a mental game, especially on the ATP level. With Djokovic steadily improving and Nadal, having given him a very tough Wimby final last year, just whooping him like he has never been whooped, how do you think Roger will be feeling when he faces either one at Wimby?

A few years ago, before Nadal and Djokovic "arrived," there was a feeling that Roger wasn't playing against anyone on the tour, because they were all too easy, and instead playing against history and the measures of sports greatness. Then, Nadal became a sort of itch. Nadal came just in time to disallow Roger the FO crown, because by all accounts, Roger would have been a career Grand Slam player had Nadal "arrived" one year later, or perhaps been born a year later. So then there was a sort of rivalry, although each player clearly dominant on their surface of strength. Then, Djokovic came and beat Federer at the AO. Federer was sick, but I think it still had a mental effect on him. For the first time, it truly feels like Roger is not completely dominant anymore, and not a heavy favorite for any title.

We shall see.

Hmm, I agree with what you say but not the Djokovic part. Federer beat him just a few weeks ago and he is his pigeon so I don't see any possible mental edge Djokovic could have, quite the contrary in fact, Federer more likely has the edge with the number of beatings he has administered to Djokovic in his short career.

Jimnik
06-09-2008, 01:11 AM
It's easy to forget that Federer only has two optional scores, so he can gain 225 points in Halle and up to 400 at the Olympics. Even if Nadal wins Wimby and Fed loses in the 1st round, he'll still be world #1. Djokovic is too far away and has a Wimby SF and Canada title to defend.

dmit424
06-09-2008, 01:13 AM
Hmm, I agree with what you say but not the Djokovic part. Federer beat him just a few weeks ago and he is his pigeon so I don't see any possible mental edge Djokovic could have, quite the contrary in fact, Federer more likely has the edge with the number of beatings he has administered to Djokovic in his short career.

Yeah, you're probably right about Djokovic. It'll be really interesting to see how he does at Wimbledon, actually. It'll be interesting to see if Djokovic can keep stepping his game up and joining the conversation. If he doesn't win either at Wimbledon or the USO, there will be some pressure on him to prove he's not a fluke. Of course, he's very young, so take all that with a grain of salt :)

Sunset of Age
06-09-2008, 01:18 AM
Roger Federer, the gastly Ballet Dancer. No doubt about it.

Forehander
06-09-2008, 01:18 AM
Federer. But the gap is ever closer.

leng jai
06-09-2008, 01:20 AM
Federer is going to be joining Henin in retirement next week.

Merton
06-09-2008, 01:38 AM
Nadal will retire at the end of the year, as so many MTF experts headed by FedFan_2007 correctly predicted. Then Djokovic will retire at the end of 2009 (after winning the golden slam) to pursue a career as an actor.

leng jai
06-09-2008, 01:41 AM
Nadal will retire at the end of the year, as so many MTF experts headed by FedFan_2007 correctly predicted. Then Djokovic will retire at the end of 2009 (after winning the golden slam) to pursue a career as an actor.

More like an ATP Trainer, he has viacriously become an expert already.

Rafa = Fed Killa
06-09-2008, 02:29 AM
Federer is going to be joining Henin in retirement next week.

One can only hope

wilmar
06-09-2008, 03:08 AM
too close to call...
Also partly becoz Wimbly is not as clearcut as FO, where Nadal is clearly the fave. Federer may have won Wimbly 9,865 times...but with his recent woes in several departments, he is not the sole fave anymore.
I do hope Djoke will be on Fed's half of the Wimbly draw.. I'm really interested to find out is how Djokovic will perform against Federer again in the big stage after the AO semi's. Can Djoke prove that he is not a Grand Slam fluke? Or he will start feeling more pressure becoz he is not the huge underdog anymore? And also whether Federer is determined enough for a revenge?
...so many psychological aspects will be revealed from that match...
also, it's high time for Nadal to get Davydenko on his half!

maskedmuffin
06-09-2008, 03:10 AM
martin verkerk

Knightmace
06-09-2008, 03:38 AM
Roger

GlennMirnyi
06-09-2008, 03:46 AM
Kevin Anderson.

Rafa = Fed Killa
06-09-2008, 04:33 AM
1) Max Mirnyi
2) Ivan Llubicic
3) DavyDonkey

jcempire
06-09-2008, 09:31 AM
It's easy to forget that Federer only has two optional scores, so he can gain 225 points in Halle and up to 400 at the Olympics. Even if Nadal wins Wimby and Fed loses in the 1st round, he'll still be world #1. Djokovic is too far away and has a Wimby SF and Canada title to defend.

Federer 700 6675 0
Nadal 1000 5585 55

Well, I don't see that easy.

Roger had 1000 points in WImby, Nadal got 700 points there which Djokovic with 450

something can be different if Roger out early and Nadal or Djok wins it

Petrovic
06-09-2008, 09:48 AM
The reason Joker have bad score v Fed is coz Joker played Fed many times as teen and Fed was in top form than.
So to me it does not mean much saying Roger beat Joker then and there coz JOker was just a 19-20 year old kid !

Now story ends with Joker being fav against Fed on HC , possibly on any surfice !
We will find out soon coz Wimby is around the corner !

Bazooka
06-09-2008, 09:52 AM
In game, he is right now way below Djokovic or Nadal.

But points wise, his ranking is safe until the USO.

KitinovRules
06-09-2008, 09:54 AM
The reason Joker have bad score v Fed is coz Joker played Fed many times as teen and Fed was in top form than.
So to me it does not mean much saying Roger beat Joker then and there coz JOker was just a 19-20 year old kid !

Now story ends with Joker being fav against Fed on HC , possibly on any surfice !
We will find out soon coz Wimby is around the corner !
Monte Carlo .

MacTheKnife
06-09-2008, 01:13 PM
I may be way off base on this, but I have this funny feeling there are going to be some huge upsets at Wimbledon. I think Fed will still carry the #1 ranking into the US Open, but I would not be surprised in the least to see a surprise Wimbledon winner, NOT in the top 3.

There are some real giants out there right now with huge serves, that if they get them going, anything can happen. I'm really excited about Wimbledon, and can't wait to see how the courts play, and what the weather's like.. weather could have a huge impact on this tournament.

dmit424
06-09-2008, 01:24 PM
I may be way off base on this, but I have this funny feeling there are going to be some huge upsets at Wimbledon. I think Fed will still carry the #1 ranking into the US Open, but I would not be surprised in the least to see a surprise Wimbledon winner, NOT in the top 3.

There are some real giants out there right now with huge serves, that if they get them going, anything can happen. I'm really excited about Wimbledon, and can't wait to see how the courts play, and what the weather's like.. weather could have a huge impact on this tournament.

Dude, so who's going to win? Roddick?? :rolls:

DDrago2
06-25-2008, 02:23 PM
I may be way off base on this, but I have this funny feeling there are going to be some huge upsets at Wimbledon. I think Fed will still carry the #1 ranking into the US Open, but I would not be surprised in the least to see a surprise Wimbledon winner, NOT in the top 3.

There are some real giants out there right now with huge serves, that if they get them going, anything can happen. I'm really excited about Wimbledon, and can't wait to see how the courts play, and what the weather's like.. weather could have a huge impact on this tournament.

Your funny feeling seems to be affirmed for now Mr.Knife, now let's see if it extends all the way to the end!
I thought Safin will have no chance at all in his match against Djokovic (who was so sub-par, he looked like he had little life in him)

kafemotor
06-25-2008, 02:46 PM
Mc mention big serve, is it Marat? all round baseline game he has just way better

RogandyFan
06-25-2008, 08:19 PM
fed has 1850 points to defend before USO.
1000 Wimbledon
500 Cinci TMS
350 Montreal TMS

If Fed doesn't do well in any of them, and nadal who has very few points to defend does well. Nadal can take over number 1.

mashamaniac
06-25-2008, 09:16 PM
How long did it take for you to calculate that??

groundstroke
06-25-2008, 10:05 PM
Probably shorter than the time that Nadal will take over Federer in the rankings - which will never happen.

jpatatsos
06-26-2008, 05:14 AM
roger

Fedex
06-26-2008, 05:31 AM
The reason Joker have bad score v Fed is coz Joker played Fed many times as teen and Fed was in top form than.
So to me it does not mean much saying Roger beat Joker then and there coz JOker was just a 19-20 year old kid !

Now story ends with Joker being fav against Fed on HC , possibly on any surfice !
We will find out soon coz Wimby is around the corner !

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :rolls: :rolls: :rolls:

Return to your cave, you vile troll!!!

JediFed
06-26-2008, 05:51 AM
It won't be Djokovic, he has too much to defend, and is too far back.

Roger is at 6050 with no points at Cincy or Canada, assuming Roger wins Wimby.

Novak is at 5405 assuming he can win in Canada and in Cincy.

Nadal can pick up 770 points and would be at 6520 points if he can win both Cincy and Canada, and reach the finals here at Wimbly. A SF at Wimbly would drop him to 6270, and make it unlikely he will reach number one.

Interesting. The results are very complicated. With Canada and Cincy getting moved up in the calendar, no one will be defending any points, until after the Olympics. Then, and only then will the points come off, just before the USO.

This means that Roger is guaranteed to be number one until just before the USO when the Cincy points will come off.

Tnn74
06-26-2008, 07:47 AM
The reason Joker have bad score v Fed is coz Joker played Fed many times as teen and Fed was in top form than.
So to me it does not mean much saying Roger beat Joker then and there coz JOker was just a 19-20 year old kid !

Now story ends with Joker being fav against Fed on HC , possibly on any surfice !
We will find out soon coz Wimby is around the corner !

Do you feel the same about the beatdowns he took
from Safin...? :haha: Wimbly is here... sadly for
Djoker and his entourage, it also ends here... :lol:

Venle
06-26-2008, 08:33 AM
Federer.

Matchu
06-26-2008, 10:01 AM
It won't be Djokovic, he has too much to defend, and is too far back.

Roger is at 6050 with no points at Cincy or Canada, assuming Roger wins Wimby.

Novak is at 5405 assuming he can win in Canada and in Cincy.

Nadal can pick up 770 points and would be at 6520 points if he can win both Cincy and Canada, and reach the finals here at Wimbly. A SF at Wimbly would drop him to 6270, and make it unlikely he will reach number one.

Interesting. The results are very complicated. With Canada and Cincy getting moved up in the calendar, no one will be defending any points, until after the Olympics. Then, and only then will the points come off, just before the USO.

This means that Roger is guaranteed to be number one until just before the USO when the Cincy points will come off.

Yeah but is Fed even going to bother with Cincy, I mean sure he wants to win Masters Series but I am 100 percent sure he would rather be in Asia getting the best possible preperation for the Olympics. The Olympics throws in an interesting twist into the rankings but it looks like Federer is going to remain number 1 for the rest of this year. Nadal would have to do extremely well at the Olympics and US series to overtake Fed.

JediFed
06-26-2008, 10:58 AM
He's defending champion, can't see him not being there.