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Daniel
07-04-2008, 12:50 PM
2 All
Break him now wonderful Roger :bounce:

Daniel
07-04-2008, 12:52 PM
Roger 2-3
Allez Roger. :bigclap:

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 12:54 PM
he is giving freepoints but that doesnt mean he is playing bad.

when his balls are in he puts roger in a really tough situation

yanchr
07-04-2008, 12:55 PM
Safin is playing better than Roger from baseline, but Roger serve is just awesome.

But its been a long while since I didn't see roger winning a point from the baseline.... not his fault, Safin is just sick today.
ehhh no...

Daniel
07-04-2008, 12:56 PM
3 All
Break, break , break now

anon57
07-04-2008, 12:58 PM
Safin has played quite a number of points where he's been very good from the baseline and has put Roger on the backfoot in rallys but it's kinda been balanced out by the numerous unforced errors he's been making. There's not much point in putting Roger under pressure from the baseline if he's missing more than he's putting the balls in. imo both players have been relying heavily on their serve.

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:00 PM
Roger 3-4

Flibbertigibbet
07-04-2008, 01:02 PM
Very good serving, but at times, he just seems slow on his movement and his ground strokes, and I'm not sure if all that's Safin's doing. Also, no willingness to go to the net. Understandable, given the surface I guess.

anon57
07-04-2008, 01:04 PM
:rolls: Safin is giving Roger a run for his money in the bad challenges department

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:04 PM
4 All
Break Roger, Break Roger :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

yanchr
07-04-2008, 01:06 PM
Safin was competing with Roger in who is the best at challenges...The outcome showed Roger is still the king :rolls:

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:06 PM
Roger 4-5

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:09 PM
5 All

anon57
07-04-2008, 01:09 PM
Safin was competing with Roger in who is the best at challenges...The outcome showed Roger is still the king :rolls:
That was a spectacularly bad challenge by Safin :lol:, I'm not quite sure how he ever thought that serve was out

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:10 PM
Roger 5-6

yanchr
07-04-2008, 01:12 PM
That was a spectacularly bad challenge by Safin :lol:, I'm not quite sure how he ever thought that serve was out
Well, thinking of the one Roger made the other day, this one was totally understandable...:lol:

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:13 PM
Tie breaker

Allez Roger :bounce:

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:14 PM
Roger 2-0

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:14 PM
Roger 3-0

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:15 PM
Roger 4-0

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:15 PM
Roger 4-1

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:16 PM
Roger 5-1

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 01:16 PM
safin pretty much gave the set to roger now :/

anon57
07-04-2008, 01:17 PM
Well, thinking of the one Roger made the other day, this one was totally understandable...:lol:
Must have been taking lessons in succesful challenging from Roger:lol:

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:17 PM
Roger 5-2

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:17 PM
Roger 6-2
set points

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:18 PM
Roger serving 6-3

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:18 PM
Roger leads 6-3 7-6 :D

yanchr
07-04-2008, 01:19 PM
Must have been taking lessons in succesful challenging from Roger:lol:
Did you see how Roger smiled/laughed at it...:angel:

anon57
07-04-2008, 01:20 PM
Only 1/5 points at the net won by Roger, compared to 12/16 for Safin

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:22 PM
Roger 1-0

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:24 PM
1 all ..
Go Roger :kiss:

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:26 PM
Roger 2-1 in third set

lunahielo
07-04-2008, 01:30 PM
Go Roger!!!

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:30 PM
bp roger

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:31 PM
deuce

anon57
07-04-2008, 01:31 PM
:speakles: Roger had a challenge right

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:32 PM
2 all.
Go Roger :bigclap:

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:35 PM
Roger 3-2
break him Roger

anon57
07-04-2008, 01:37 PM
:lol:Roger you dork, almost tripped

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:39 PM
3 all

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:41 PM
Roger 4 -3
when will you break his serve?

Mrs. B
07-04-2008, 01:43 PM
HOPP, ROGER!!!! :bounce:

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:45 PM
ok
4 all
Allez Roger

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:47 PM
5-4

yanchr
07-04-2008, 01:49 PM
His running forehand today...so rarely seen these days...so so so great to see him hit those shots again, and those one last little jumps to his forehand side hitting the forehand down the line which he used to do a lot but disappeared for some time...really happy to see.

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:50 PM
30 all on Safins serve

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:50 PM
match point

Daniel
07-04-2008, 01:51 PM
Roger won match 6-3 7-6 6-4 :bounce: :kiss: :smooch: :D
well done and get ready for the final
most likely you will eat pig on sunday

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 01:52 PM
great last two points by roger, awesome

he will cry hahaha

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 01:53 PM
Go Rogerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrr!!!!

oneandonlyhsn
07-04-2008, 01:59 PM
:dance: Business like performance from Federer. I was hoping Safin would give him test for his groundies :( but thats okay

:woohoo: Fed is in the final, dear God please bless Roger, let him find his ominous form for the finals and win Wimby convincingly and shut all the pundits :rocker2:

Another RogFan
07-04-2008, 02:02 PM
He said after the match :"Rafa is playing great... but don't write me off so easily. This is my part of the season: Wimbeldon, Olympics, USO"
Good luck Roger!!!

trickcy
07-04-2008, 02:07 PM
:woohoo: Roger
Sixth consecutive Wimbledon finals :banana:

I don't know who's worse at challenging : Roger or Marat :haha:

Borg was there in the royal box.

elessar
07-04-2008, 02:09 PM
Hey guys I just came back and sa wthe last game of the match could anyone tell me how Roger played because looking at GM right now, it seems like he just made it to his 6th straight wimby final (without dropping a set) playing like a mug :sad:

oneandonlyhsn
07-04-2008, 02:10 PM
He said after the match :"Rafa is playing great... but don't write me off so easily. This is my part of the season: Wimbeldon, Olympics, USO"
Good luck Roger!!!

That is what I really like, Rogi knows that most people are writing him off so that will be a huge motivator for him on Sunday. May the force be with you Roger :worship:

Fergie
07-04-2008, 02:18 PM
Roger :yeah:

luzkoz
07-04-2008, 02:19 PM
Roger :worship:.
Now do what Borg failed to do :cool:

yanchr
07-04-2008, 02:20 PM
Hey guys I just came back and sa wthe last game of the match could anyone tell me how Roger played because looking at GM right now, it seems like he just made it to his 6th straight wimby final (without dropping a set) playing like a mug :sad:
How's everything going with you ;):wavey:

If you believe me :lol: : Roger didn't play exceptionally well today, but I think he looked very good out there - moving very well, forehand has been on, serving well as usual. Some of his running forehands...oh man how I miss that. His backhand looked ok. Passing shots were not too impressive. Net play was bad though. He didn't come in a lot today but missed most of the volleys when he did...That, he has to improve. But overall, he looked in good form, relaxed, confident, and very happy.

Thinking about how much I usually complain...judge yourself ;)

JediFed
07-04-2008, 02:21 PM
12 of 13 finals now, passes Bjorn. Ties Bjorn with 6 consecutive Wimbly finals. 40 consecutive wins at Wimbly, one short of Bjorn.

trickcy
07-04-2008, 02:23 PM
Hey guys I just came back and sa wthe last game of the match could anyone tell me how Roger played because looking at GM right now, it seems like he just made it to his 6th straight wimby final (without dropping a set) playing like a mug :sad:

From what I saw, I got the impression that his serve was excellent as usual. Safin's was too. Both him and Safin were missing a lot of shots from the backcourt. It was like they couldn't get any rhythm, or something. Roger's movement was pretty good. His netplay isn't that good. Needs to improve that. Forehand was excellent at times, though he missed on that too.

Oh, and his challenges are improving. You can actually catch sight of the line these times.:eek:

trickcy
07-04-2008, 02:24 PM
Roger :worship:.
Now do what Borg failed to do :cool:

I second that:rocker2:

Oh and his running forehand at times were :hearts:

elessar
07-04-2008, 02:24 PM
Thanks :lol:

Do you mean he actually got some right :eek: ?

trickcy
07-04-2008, 02:25 PM
Thanks :lol:

Do you mean he actually got some right :eek: ?

:secret:None that I can remember. :o

elessar
07-04-2008, 02:27 PM
Oh..I'm beginning to think getting a challenge right would be a bigger accomplishment for him than winning wimbledon for the sixth time :o

crude oil
07-04-2008, 02:32 PM
i know its shuettler but nadal is just playing sick.

its amazing how once nadal hits top form, he is able to continue at that level with no bad matches.

even federer has bad matches after good matches.

Mrs. B
07-04-2008, 02:33 PM
Good luck Roger in the finals!!!

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 02:34 PM
Nadal broke Schuettler twice now. This will be such an easy match for him.

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 02:35 PM
Nadal is hitting winners after winners. He is playing on a sick level since the quarters. I'm honestly not sure how Roger will handle this out.

yanchr
07-04-2008, 02:35 PM
Claire, you have to see the challenge made by Safin today :lol: and then I'm sure you would like to see how Roger smiled at that :angel:

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 02:37 PM
god I wish shuettler hit ONE shot right.

anon57
07-04-2008, 02:40 PM
Oh..I'm beginning to think getting a challenge right would be a bigger accomplishment for him than winning wimbledon for the sixth time :o

There's still massive improvement though, you can now actually see the lines in the close-ups, so maybe one day he'll actually get one right.

crude oil
07-04-2008, 02:40 PM
Nadal is hitting winners after winners. He is playing on a sick level since the quarters. I'm honestly not sure how Roger will handle this out.

nadal looked good against murray but today i think he's even better.

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 02:44 PM
he is looking better because his opponent sucks. Shuettler is missing everything, something Murray didn't do.

JediFed
07-04-2008, 02:47 PM
Everybody talks about Nadal's tough draw, neither Roger or Nadal faced a player in the top 10.

Pretty exceptional really. Nadal's top seed was Murray at 12, and Roger's was Hewitt! :D

Dirk
07-04-2008, 02:52 PM
Stats please. I was thinking this match was second so I missed all of it but NBC is showing it taped. :D I believe in Roger and he can only lose with bad play especially on big points and by being passive. Come on Roger make history.

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 02:59 PM
great game by shuettler.

JediFed
07-04-2008, 03:08 PM
Roger was 65 percent first serves in, 77 percent of first serves won, 80 percent of second serves won.

:eek:

JediFed
07-04-2008, 03:09 PM
Schuettler broke Nadal? Wow.

Who would have predicted Nadal would be the only one broken today?

trickcy
07-04-2008, 03:13 PM
Stats please. I was thinking this match was second so I missed all of it but NBC is showing it taped. :D I believe in Roger and he can only lose with bad play especially on big points and by being passive. Come on Roger make history.

I set:
http://i29.tinypic.com/111mmxe.jpg

II set:

http://i31.tinypic.com/21b868m.jpg
III set :

http://i27.tinypic.com/icrexx.jpg

Full match:

http://i26.tinypic.com/17u8b8.jpg

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 03:14 PM
wow Schuettler is shutting me up, he is playing really well right now, everything is working. I hope he can keep this up

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 03:19 PM
I wonder if he is capable of closing the set :(

clever1980
07-04-2008, 03:32 PM
I wonder if he is capable of closing the set :(

Obviously not.

JediFed
07-04-2008, 03:46 PM
Up the break and gives both up to lose in the tiebreak. :(

At least we can be sure Nadal is not going to beat Roger tomorrow with this kind of form.

anon57
07-04-2008, 03:50 PM
Up the double break and gives both up to lose in the tiebreak. :(

At least we can be sure Nadal is not going to beat Roger tomorrow with this kind of form.
Schuettler was never up a double break it was only one break, and he was trailing the entire tiebreak. And I don't think Nadal should be underestimated based on the second set in this match, he's been playing very well this tournament and he'll be extremely tough to defeat.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2008, 03:53 PM
Safin played really well for the most part to be honest, but Federer was never threatened. Good serving (the serve has never looked better), good smart play on the FH, smart play on the BH. The one thing I wish he would do more of is attack the net. He hasn't needed to because he has been able to get his opponents out of position with a single FH i.e. Soder, Giquel, Ancic, Safin...Nadal won't be so easy to get out of postion and will take the net himself.

trickcy
07-04-2008, 03:55 PM
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2008-07-04/200807041215183872265.html


Friday, 4 July 2008


Roger Federer def. Marat Safin 6-3, 7-6, 6-4

Q. You seemed to be very relaxed and confident. At 2-All in the third set you hit one shot under the leg, another one behind the back. Is that what you really felt at that moment?


ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, I was winning my service games pretty comfortably, you know, except at one stage in I think in the second set maybe it was. But I was playing well. You know, I was feeling good out there on the court. It was perfect conditions to play. I was playing a good and tough match. I'm always very, you know, relaxed, so today was no different really.


Q. Was it easy today?


ROGER FEDERER: Uhm, well, easy in terms of, you know, being able to control a really dangerous player who's got the potential to upset anyone, you know. So in this aspect, yes. I mean, it was quite easy if you look at the score now. I was able to break him in the first game of the match and in the last game of the match. I think in between I was just really consistent, didn't really give him too many chances. It was a perfect match for me.


Q. Were you relieved it was straight sets, given that Rafa might have a quick one?


ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, we don't know how he's going to play yet. But, I mean, it's not going to come down to conditional -- you know, just to fitness in the final. We've got a day off, as well. If I would have played five hours today, I don't think it would have mattered a whole lot. It would have been worse for Rafa, because maybe he couldn't have finished today. So, no, I mean, I'm just happy to have won again in straight sets, beating a great player. You know, it's a huge thrill every time when I get to another Wimbledon finals because it's a big occasion.


Q. What were you reading from Marat Safin's attitude on the other side of the net? Were you expecting something else, other kind of attitude?


ROGER FEDERER: Well, he's always very fiery as a character. You know, he's never really changed over all the years. So, you know, it seems when he does that he tends to play better - sort of like John McEnroe was like. So it's always a little dangerous because he gets the crowd involved, you know, by doing that. The momentum can shift sometimes because of it, you know. And thank God I've played him plenty of times and I've got so much experience that it's not going to worry me really a whole lot.


Q. Now that you're here in the final, how would you describe your whole route to get to this point?


ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, pretty simple: I mean, I haven't had many problems whatsoever throughout The Championships. It's been, you know, a perfect way to the finals, but there's one more left. You know, I need to win to get it. But so far it's been quite unbelievable, actually.


Q. Assuming it is Rafael Nadal in the final, what do you think the match could turn out to be after that incredible last year?


ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, big question mark. You know, I think we always hope that we can live up to the expectations, you know, because by now we've had so many sort of good matches against each other. It's hard to live up to them all the time. So Paris was sort of a disappointment, you know, in terms of living up to the expectations. But that happens sometimes. You know, for me it's obviously important to sort of bounce back from that loss. You know, even though I'm not going to draw anything out of that match because Rafa plays so different on clay and grass. He plays so much closer to the baseline that I have to draw from my two previous Wimbledon finals. So we'll see what happens.


Q. It's been a while since you've been in a Wimbledon final not as the sort of racing certainty favorite. Will that make life a bit easier for you in that you're not such a heavy favorite this time?


ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, I wasn't an overwhelming favorite going into the Philippoussis final or into the Roddick in the first final in '04. Maybe after that I was always the favorite, but that's only been two or three times. So it's not been a whole lot. Look, I mean, I don't think it matters really a lot if I'm the favorite or not. I'm on an incredible winning streak on grass. First somebody has to be able to break that, you know, before we start talking differently. But, yeah, should be an interesting final. I don't know if Rafa's gonna win this, but it's definitely going to be an interesting match if it happens.


Q. Would you say you're playing better than ever this year, right now?


ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, my way to the final's been great. You know, I cannot do much better than this. But I've just been playing consistently well. I wasn't maybe pushed to the degree where I have to say I played my best tennis ever. I just think it's been good tennis so far. You know, if I were to win tomorrow, on Sunday, then maybe I can say I've been playing my best ever. But at the moment I think it's a little bit too early.


Q. Knowing you are a tennis expert, you like to do trivia tennis questions to your colleagues sometime, do you know anything about William Renshaw, the fact he won six times here in a row?


ROGER FEDERER: Yeah.


Q. Have you studied this?


ROGER FEDERER: No, I haven't studied. He was in the finals every time, so it was a little easier for him to win six in a row. A little different for us. Anyway, look, that's like in the heyday, yeah. Not my focus at the moment.


Q. Does your tough loss in Paris, presuming Rafa gets into the final, put a little different complexion on the next match?


ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, it's gonna be more talk about it, I guess, than normally, you know. But I think Rafa deserves, you know, the respect he has from you guys and from us, the players. I mean, he's definitely had the best start to the season ever. He's been playing well, consistently well. Was a little rocky start maybe in the beginning losing quite comfortably against Youzhny and Tsonga in, you know, where was it, Chennai and Australia. Then I think he really sort of caught himself and played really well. Had one more tough loss against Djokovic at Indian Wells. But from then on, he was playing I think really well, you know. Clay court season was phenomenal again, you know. For me it's just a matter of sort of -- I mean, for me, anyway, that final is out of the picture. I hardly remember anything of it. It went so quickly. Yeah, for me it's not really that big of a problem, maybe like you guys look at it.


Q. Is it sort of a pain in the neck for you or something that keeps things interesting that you have a guy so close nipping at your heels, challenging you all the time?


ROGER FEDERER: No, I mean, I enjoy the challenge. Geez, I mean, Rafa is a great competitor. I mean, he's got a winning record over me. Every time I play him I want to try to beat him. The thing is, I've played him so often on clay, it's more of an advantage for him in the head-to-heads. At the same time, I mean, he's now become so good on all other surfaces as well that he's a real threat, you know, on anything, you know. That's not only for me, but, you know, for any player. Now, let's see what happens now the rest of the season, because I think this is maybe my favorite part of the season, you know, trying to win Wimbledon and US Open back to back, and we got the Olympics stuck in it, as well. So it's a huge, huge possibility for both, for any players right now. So that's why I think it's an exciting time right now for us.


Q. The women's finalists are obviously playing doubles together. Have you had any interaction with Rafa these last two weeks, or do you stay out of each other's way?


ROGER FEDERER: No, no, we talk. We see each other all the time in the locker room. So we were talking a lot on the rain delay, you know, when was it, when I was playing. Who was I playing last match?


Q. Ancic.


ROGER FEDERER: Ancic, yeah. We spoke a lot, for instance. So we always see each other all the time at the practice courts. We just get in and out. But, you know, during match days we sort of talk a lot, yeah.


Q. When you come to Wimbledon, do you keep the same routine in terms of where you stay, your restaurants, the time you eat? How superstitious are you?


ROGER FEDERER: I'm not superstitious. I'm no Goran Ivanisevic. No, I'm not like that, you know. Give me a different dish every day, different restaurant, I have no problem. Or even a different bed.


Q. Have you ever thought to play doubles one day with Rafael Nadal just for fun?


ROGER FEDERER: Well, he asked me a couple years ago in I think Madrid or whatever it was. Well, it's obviously intriguing, the same as I would love to play maybe with Roddick. Because I've played with Hewitt in the past; I've played with Safin in the past. I never played with those two guys. It would be something I would consider doing, you know. But playing so little doubles these days, when I play, I want to play with my friend, Yves or Stan or something like that. That's why it's sort of hard. Maybe it will happen.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2008, 03:57 PM
Up the double break and gives both up to lose in the tiebreak. :(

At least we can be sure Nadal is not going to beat Roger tomorrow with this kind of form.

I said yesterday that you would see Nadal's intensity drop just a bit because of his opponent who has no chance to beat him at all. I thought he lost a bit of his edge in the 2nd set because he knew that these two could play a 1000 sets and Ranier wouldn't win one.

One thing for sure: I hope Federer is ready for the CC FH--net approach. Nadal has done this more and more as the tournament as gone on.

JediFed
07-04-2008, 04:02 PM
I think it's the opposite, Schuettler's form dropped. He played very well to break Nadal, it wasn't Nadal playing badly.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2008, 04:03 PM
http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2008-07-04/200807041215183872265.html


Friday, 4 July 2008


Roger Federer def. Marat Safin 6-3, 7-6, 6-4

Q. You seemed to be very relaxed and confident. At 2-All in the third set you hit one shot under the leg, another one behind the back. Is that what you really felt at that moment?


ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, I was winning my service games pretty comfortably, you know, except at one stage in I think in the second set maybe it was. But I was playing well. You know, I was feeling good out there on the court. It was perfect conditions to play. I was playing a good and tough match. I'm always very, you know, relaxed, so today was no different really.


Q. Was it easy today?


ROGER FEDERER: Uhm, well, easy in terms of, you know, being able to control a really dangerous player who's got the potential to upset anyone, you know. So in this aspect, yes. I mean, it was quite easy if you look at the score now. I was able to break him in the first game of the match and in the last game of the match. I think in between I was just really consistent, didn't really give him too many chances. It was a perfect match for me.


Q. Were you relieved it was straight sets, given that Rafa might have a quick one?


ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, we don't know how he's going to play yet. But, I mean, it's not going to come down to conditional -- you know, just to fitness in the final. We've got a day off, as well. If I would have played five hours today, I don't think it would have mattered a whole lot. It would have been worse for Rafa, because maybe he couldn't have finished today. So, no, I mean, I'm just happy to have won again in straight sets, beating a great player. You know, it's a huge thrill every time when I get to another Wimbledon finals because it's a big occasion.


Q. What were you reading from Marat Safin's attitude on the other side of the net? Were you expecting something else, other kind of attitude?


ROGER FEDERER: Well, he's always very fiery as a character. You know, he's never really changed over all the years. So, you know, it seems when he does that he tends to play better - sort of like John McEnroe was like. So it's always a little dangerous because he gets the crowd involved, you know, by doing that. The momentum can shift sometimes because of it, you know. And thank God I've played him plenty of times and I've got so much experience that it's not going to worry me really a whole lot.


Q. Now that you're here in the final, how would you describe your whole route to get to this point?


ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, pretty simple: I mean, I haven't had many problems whatsoever throughout The Championships. It's been, you know, a perfect way to the finals, but there's one more left. You know, I need to win to get it. But so far it's been quite unbelievable, actually.


Q. Assuming it is Rafael Nadal in the final, what do you think the match could turn out to be after that incredible last year?


ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, big question mark. You know, I think we always hope that we can live up to the expectations, you know, because by now we've had so many sort of good matches against each other. It's hard to live up to them all the time. So Paris was sort of a disappointment, you know, in terms of living up to the expectations. But that happens sometimes. You know, for me it's obviously important to sort of bounce back from that loss. You know, even though I'm not going to draw anything out of that match because Rafa plays so different on clay and grass. He plays so much closer to the baseline that I have to draw from my two previous Wimbledon finals. So we'll see what happens.


Q. It's been a while since you've been in a Wimbledon final not as the sort of racing certainty favorite. Will that make life a bit easier for you in that you're not such a heavy favorite this time?


ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, I wasn't an overwhelming favorite going into the Philippoussis final or into the Roddick in the first final in '04. Maybe after that I was always the favorite, but that's only been two or three times. So it's not been a whole lot. Look, I mean, I don't think it matters really a lot if I'm the favorite or not. I'm on an incredible winning streak on grass. First somebody has to be able to break that, you know, before we start talking differently. But, yeah, should be an interesting final. I don't know if Rafa's gonna win this, but it's definitely going to be an interesting match if it happens.


Q. Would you say you're playing better than ever this year, right now?


ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, my way to the final's been great. You know, I cannot do much better than this. But I've just been playing consistently well. I wasn't maybe pushed to the degree where I have to say I played my best tennis ever. I just think it's been good tennis so far. You know, if I were to win tomorrow, on Sunday, then maybe I can say I've been playing my best ever. But at the moment I think it's a little bit too early.


Q. Knowing you are a tennis expert, you like to do trivia tennis questions to your colleagues sometime, do you know anything about William Renshaw, the fact he won six times here in a row?


ROGER FEDERER: Yeah.


Q. Have you studied this?


ROGER FEDERER: No, I haven't studied. He was in the finals every time, so it was a little easier for him to win six in a row. A little different for us. Anyway, look, that's like in the heyday, yeah. Not my focus at the moment.


Q. Does your tough loss in Paris, presuming Rafa gets into the final, put a little different complexion on the next match?


ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, it's gonna be more talk about it, I guess, than normally, you know. But I think Rafa deserves, you know, the respect he has from you guys and from us, the players. I mean, he's definitely had the best start to the season ever. He's been playing well, consistently well. Was a little rocky start maybe in the beginning losing quite comfortably against Youzhny and Tsonga in, you know, where was it, Chennai and Australia. Then I think he really sort of caught himself and played really well. Had one more tough loss against Djokovic at Indian Wells. But from then on, he was playing I think really well, you know. Clay court season was phenomenal again, you know. For me it's just a matter of sort of -- I mean, for me, anyway, that final is out of the picture. I hardly remember anything of it. It went so quickly. Yeah, for me it's not really that big of a problem, maybe like you guys look at it.


Q. Is it sort of a pain in the neck for you or something that keeps things interesting that you have a guy so close nipping at your heels, challenging you all the time?


ROGER FEDERER: No, I mean, I enjoy the challenge. Geez, I mean, Rafa is a great competitor. I mean, he's got a winning record over me. Every time I play him I want to try to beat him. The thing is, I've played him so often on clay, it's more of an advantage for him in the head-to-heads. At the same time, I mean, he's now become so good on all other surfaces as well that he's a real threat, you know, on anything, you know. That's not only for me, but, you know, for any player. Now, let's see what happens now the rest of the season, because I think this is maybe my favorite part of the season, you know, trying to win Wimbledon and US Open back to back, and we got the Olympics stuck in it, as well. So it's a huge, huge possibility for both, for any players right now. So that's why I think it's an exciting time right now for us.


Q. The women's finalists are obviously playing doubles together. Have you had any interaction with Rafa these last two weeks, or do you stay out of each other's way?


ROGER FEDERER: No, no, we talk. We see each other all the time in the locker room. So we were talking a lot on the rain delay, you know, when was it, when I was playing. Who was I playing last match?


Q. Ancic.


ROGER FEDERER: Ancic, yeah. We spoke a lot, for instance. So we always see each other all the time at the practice courts. We just get in and out. But, you know, during match days we sort of talk a lot, yeah.


Q. When you come to Wimbledon, do you keep the same routine in terms of where you stay, your restaurants, the time you eat? How superstitious are you?


ROGER FEDERER: I'm not superstitious. I'm no Goran Ivanisevic. No, I'm not like that, you know. Give me a different dish every day, different restaurant, I have no problem. Or even a different bed.


Q. Have you ever thought to play doubles one day with Rafael Nadal just for fun?


ROGER FEDERER: Well, he asked me a couple years ago in I think Madrid or whatever it was. Well, it's obviously intriguing, the same as I would love to play maybe with Roddick. Because I've played with Hewitt in the past; I've played with Safin in the past. I never played with those two guys. It would be something I would consider doing, you know. But playing so little doubles these days, when I play, I want to play with my friend, Yves or Stan or something like that. That's why it's sort of hard. Maybe it will happen.

Good interview. It's funny how he mentions the Youz and Tsonga losses to remind people that Nadal hasn't won every match he's played this year. :lol: Federer's ready...let's see what he has.

JediFed
07-04-2008, 04:04 PM
Schuettler was never up a double break it was only one break, and he was trailing the entire tiebreak. And I don't think Nadal should be underestimated based on the second set in this match, he's been playing very well this tournament and he'll be extremely tough to defeat.


If Schuettler took Rogi to a tiebreak, they'd be saying that Rogi was vunerable.

I refuse to give him the double standard.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2008, 04:06 PM
I think it's the opposite, Schuettler's form dropped. He played very well to break Nadal, it wasn't Nadal playing badly.

Ranier is played way better than I thought he would, but this match has little to nothing to do with Ranier. It's like Federer playing against Ferrer or Robredo: whatever Fed wants to do, he wil. Nadal knew he was never going to ose.

clever1980
07-04-2008, 04:07 PM
Good interview. It's funny how he mentions the Youz and Tsonga losses to remind people that Nadal hasn't won every match he's played this year. :lol: Federer's ready...let's see what he has.

If Roger keeps his head cool, he WILL win.

JediFed
07-04-2008, 04:09 PM
It's like Federer playing against Ferrer or Robredo: whatever Fed wants to do, he wil. Nadal knew he was never going to ose.


That's fair enough, but getting broken by Schuettler is still not an encouraging sign for Nadal, no matter how people spin it.

anon57
07-04-2008, 04:09 PM
No doubt Schuettler played well to get to the tiebreak and possibly if he had played a better service game at 5*-4, he could have taken the set, but Nadal was making more errors in that set. I'm not sure whether that was because Schuettler was trying to take control more and therefore putting more pressure on him or if Nadal wasn't quite as focussed as he had been before in the match. And indeed in the second set Nadal did look more vulnerable but he still pulled out the set and he's looked better than that at other times during the tournament.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2008, 04:09 PM
IN last year's final, Nadal got a lot of 'reach' returns back in play that could've been knocked off for easy volleys. He's definitely going to have to employ a lot of that.

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 04:15 PM
damn they are so dominant this year that it isnt about losing sets anymore, its about losing SERVICE. C'mon, it doesnt mean much that he got broke, what it means is that he wasnt that dominant since the 2nd set.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2008, 04:20 PM
:lol: Ranier saved 3 MP's

trickcy
07-04-2008, 04:22 PM
Rainer :yeah: :haha:

crude oil
07-04-2008, 04:24 PM
ppl have short term memories of nadal.

nadal was losing serve on clay quite a few times on clay in the past. He would have matches where he would win with this type of scoreline - routine but not a thrashing.

for him to have such a scoreline is far from a shocker or a disappoitnment.

JediFed
07-04-2008, 04:25 PM
damn they are so dominant this year that it isnt about losing sets anymore, its about losing SERVICE. C'mon, it doesnt mean much that he got broke, what it means is that he wasnt that dominant since the 2nd set.


So an unseeded player breaking the favourite at Wimbly isn't notable?

crude oil
07-04-2008, 04:26 PM
the one thing federer has never done well imo is serve out wide to nadal's bh on the deuce side.

This become so evident on clay where nadal is 34234230948 feet behind the baseline.

trickcy
07-04-2008, 04:30 PM
the one thing federer has never done well imo is serve out wide to nadal's bh on the deuce side.

This become so evident on clay where nadal is 34234230948 feet behind the baseline.

I think that his serve in the deuce court today was pretty good. It was out wide, and occasionally short as well. I think he got a couple of aces serving like that. Hopefully he uses it in the finals.

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 04:46 PM
So an unseeded player breaking the favourite at Wimbly isn't notable?

No. Would be notable if he lost that set.

TO lose the service is meh, you can always break it back.

yanchr
07-04-2008, 04:48 PM
They just showed a bit of interview from Roger, different from the press.

Roger said, he had to admit that last year he was under huge pressure when he was going for the 5th, after he was close in Paris, and Nadal also going for back-to-back. He said he sort of HAD to win. That stressed him out a bit. This year, of course 6th is important, if he can win it, great, if Nadal wins it, then he has a fantastic year - there is not the same stress as last year...


I hope he is true to himself and relaxed as he said this year and can play HIS tennis on Sunday. We know that he played like crap until 2:2 5th set last year...

trickcy
07-04-2008, 04:48 PM
So it's one more Fedal final. Atleast the fedal fans will be happy.
Marat's interview is pretty good :
www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2008-07-04/200807041215185913359.html

nobama
07-04-2008, 04:49 PM
Who's the last player to make W finals without dropping a set. If it was Roger, who before him?

JediFed
07-04-2008, 05:01 PM
Federer last did it in 2006, dropping the third set to Nadal in a tiebreak.

He's only lost 8 sets in 6 years now, going 112-8 in the process.

Borg in 1976 won the whole thing without dropping a set.

Connors did it in 1975, before losing to Ashe in the finals.

trickcy
07-04-2008, 05:02 PM
Who's the last player to make W finals without dropping a set. If it was Roger, who before him?

Roger in 06, and before that, I think Borg in 1976 won without dropping a set. But about making it to the finals, I don't know.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2008, 05:03 PM
Who's the last player to make W finals without dropping a set. If it was Roger, who before him?

Federer did it in 2006 and then lost the 3rd set to Nadal in a TB. He had a chance to win the title without dropping a set that year.

Before Feds, it was Borg in 1976 I think.

Krajicek in '96 almost did but lost a TB in the 3rd or 4th round, the only set he lost that year at Wimby. Utterly dominant performance that year.

Pat Cash only lost a set getting to the finals in '87.

Becker only lost one set to Lendl in making the '88 finals.

JMac lost single sets in '83 and '84 in the early rounds during his title runs.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2008, 05:08 PM
Just looked it up--Nastase didn't lose a set on his way to the finals as well in 1976.

It's extremely difficult to make a run on grass without losing a set since you can drop serve once, the other guy serves bombs and you lose the set.

robinhood
07-04-2008, 05:08 PM
Oh man.
A bit nervous for this final, but I'm glad he made it back again.

And for the women's final, I think I will root for Venus.

nobama
07-04-2008, 05:16 PM
Wow that's quite impressive. Let's hope on Sunday he keeps the thought of Nadal holding that trophy front and center and does everything in his power not to let it happen.

JediFed
07-04-2008, 05:17 PM
Yeah, Fed's the only one who's done it in the tiebreak era, and he's the only one who's done it twice.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2008, 05:24 PM
Yeah, Fed's the only one who's done it in the tiebreak era, and he's the only one who's done it twice.

Yup, doing it in the TB era makes it even more impressive.

Slam finals made now:

Lendl: 19
Sampras: 18
Federer: 16
Borg: 16
Connors: 15
Agassi: 15

juninhOH
07-04-2008, 05:47 PM
when tiebreak was implemented in the game?

trickcy
07-04-2008, 06:16 PM
when tiebreak was implemented in the game?

Either 1977 or 1978, I think.

NYCtennisfan
07-04-2008, 06:54 PM
Either 1977 or 1978, I think.

They came up with it in 1965 although I think it first went up to 5 points.
They experimented with a different scoring system similar to what table tennis has in the 50's because Pancho Gonzales's serve was so potent. I think the USO used the TB'er in '70 or '71, Wimby used it a bit later and then went away from it. In '78 or '79, all tournaments used it other than Davis Cup.

trickcy
07-04-2008, 07:01 PM
They came up with it in 1965 although I think it first went up to 5 points.
They experimented with a different scoring system similar to what table tennis has in the 50's because Pancho Gonzales's serve was so potent. I think the USO used the TB'er in '70 or '71, Wimby used it a bit later and then went away from it. In '78 or '79, all tournaments used it other than Davis Cup.

Oh, I see. I thought maybe 78 based on Wimbledon finals results.

What does it mean when it's printed J. Kodes vs A. Metreveli 6-1, 9-8(7-5), 6-3 (1973)?What does 9-8(7-5) mean?
And :topic:, but, is it true that Gene Mayer made the top ten without playing the grand slams? And what year was that?

Eden
07-04-2008, 08:35 PM
Roger :yeah:

So good to see you here again :hug: You haven't been here for a while ;)

Everybody talks about Nadal's tough draw, neither Roger or Nadal faced a player in the top 10.

Pretty exceptional really. Nadal's top seed was Murray at 12, and Roger's was Hewitt! :D

But you should know by now that just Roger get's cakewalk draws ;)

As I already said on GM Söderling, Hewitt and Ancic were demanding opponents on grass. I doubt that the Rafafans would have liked to see them in Rafa's draw ;) Though Rafa would have come through such a draw as well because he really is an excellent player on grass and neither of them would have been able to take 3 sets of him.

As we have already said earlier on we were relieved that Murray wasn't in Roger's draw, though it would have been surely interesting to see a match between them on grass.

If Schuettler took Rogi to a tiebreak, they'd be saying that Rogi was vunerable.


I agree on this.

That's fair enough, but getting broken by Schuettler is still not an encouraging sign for Nadal, no matter how people spin it.

Sean, the outcome of the match against Schüttler was never in doubt. Rafa cruised through the 1st set and it was probably a combination of slowing down his game and concentration and Schüttler stepping up his level that the set went to a TB.

Even if Schüttler had won the set this wouldn't have been any conclusion on Nadal's performance in the final. Each match is new and Nadal will be really motivated for the final. He had great results in the past months and has the advantage of the selfconfidence, especially after the RG final. Don't forget that he was able to push Roger to 5 sets last year. Rafa really wants to get the Wimbledon trophy and might feel this is his biggest chance.

As always the pressure is on Roger. Hopefully he can really leave the outcome of the French Open behind him and has the believe in himself and his abilities on grass. This is his surface :)

They just showed a bit of interview from Roger, different from the press.

Roger said, he had to admit that last year he was under huge pressure when he was going for the 5th, after he was close in Paris, and Nadal also going for back-to-back. He said he sort of HAD to win. That stressed him out a bit. This year, of course 6th is important, if he can win it, great, if Nadal wins it, then he has a fantastic year - there is not the same stress as last year...


Thanks for letting us know Laura :)

We never know what he really feels deep inside. There was written so much crap about him this year and hopefully he can prove all haters wrong.

So it's one more Fedal final. Atleast the fedal fans will be happy.


They are probably the only ones who can really enjoy the match ;)

Oh man.
A bit nervous for this final, but I'm glad he made it back again.


Just a bit nervous? It will be Roger's most important GS final so far...

Flibbertigibbet
07-04-2008, 08:57 PM
I really hope the Sunday forecast of heavy rain is wrong. Somehow I don't think constant rain will help Federer's rhythm any, and besides, it'd (annoyingly) interrupt the play. Otherwise, both players are coming in on very good form...

Blondie1985
07-05-2008, 01:08 AM
Good Luck Dear Roger!!!!!!1


I Know U Will Win It!!!


It Will Be The Sweetest Moment Ever~~

Make The Dream Come True Rog

FedFan_2007
07-05-2008, 05:09 AM
Go Rogelio!

SUKTUEN
07-05-2008, 06:45 AM
my LORD Plese Bless Roger play his Best Tennis tomorrow!!

ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!!!:worship::bounce::bounce:

BlueSwan
07-05-2008, 07:38 AM
Just placed a bet of almost 100 euros on Nadal to win tomorrow. Then at least I'll have some consolation if Rogi doesn't win. Still rooting 100% for Rogi, of course!

SUKTUEN
07-05-2008, 08:19 AM
I will support Roger forever!!!:D

Ksenia
07-05-2008, 11:50 AM
"Roger's footwork... it's a dance". The commentator on Wimbledon Live said it yesterday, i fell in love with this quote :hearts:

Good luck tomorrow Roger!

*Ljubica*
07-05-2008, 12:46 PM
:wavey: Just came in to wish Roger good luck tomorrow :)

Sunset of Age
07-05-2008, 01:52 PM
^^ Thank you!

Ariadne
07-05-2008, 03:21 PM
:wavey: Just came in to wish Roger good luck tomorrow :)

Thank you! :hug:

trickcy
07-05-2008, 03:40 PM
:wavey: Just came in to wish Roger good luck tomorrow :)

Thanks :wavey:

trickcy
07-05-2008, 03:56 PM
Prefinal interview
www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2008-07-05/200807051215268773750.html



Q. Do you have that lingering worry that the French Open final's result will repeat itself today?

ROGER FEDERER: No, not really.

Q. If you ask, who do you think will lift the Cup today?

ROGER FEDERER: We play tomorrow.

Q. Yes, tomorrow.

ROGER FEDERER: That will hopefully be me obviously.

Q. How prepared are you for tomorrow?

ROGER FEDERER: I'm well prepared. I've had a good championship so far. No real worries. Feeling healthy. I think that's really the best way I can feel. So I'm very happy from that angle. Always playing Rafa is a test that I was hoping for. I'm really looking forward to that match tomorrow.

Q. Have you had a chance to see Nadal's semifinal, gone through it?

ROGER FEDERER: I saw, what, maybe four games. Didn't see a whole lot.

Q. When you say it's the final you were hoping for, could you just expand on that and explain why particularly?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I think it's the same for him, you know. Beating me or beating Rafa in a Grand Slam final, I think you can really say the guy deserved to win, you know. The guy is, you know, the sort of best on clay. Now it's the one who is best on grass kind of thing for the season. These kind of things.

Beating your main rival is always obviously a big thrill. I've played Rafa on so many occasions on clay that obviously my head to head is not going to be the best against him, you know.

But it's nice for myself to have created this chance and for him, as well, you know, to get all the way to the Wimbledon finals and play him on a different surface than clay. I hope that this works now in my advantage, you know, like it did for him on clay in Paris.

Q. You said you only watched four games of his semifinal. Why so few? Do you already know much about him?

ROGER FEDERER: You guys, huh? Always in the press. I wish it was different, this life, but sometimes you have to do press, as well. I got back and all I saw was sort of I got to see, what was is, 5 3 in the second. And I didn't watch quite a few games. Just saw the breaker. Then just saw the last few games of the third set, so... But there's DVD always. I'm not going to watch that. I know him plenty.

Q. Do you need to watch more or do you feel you know everything about him?

ROGER FEDERER: No, not a whole lot. I know how he plays. I've seen him throughout The Championships here. Whatever, a few sets here and there, you know, see how he's playing. Maybe I'll watch something more if I think I have to. But at the moment I think I know everything really that I need to.

Q. What will you do the rest of the day?

ROGER FEDERER: Just sort of practice, relax, treatment. Yeah, this is sort of those nice boring days for me, you know, where I just want to get through the day and relax. So start thinking about the finals a little bit tomorrow. Prepare as well as I can, get plenty of sleep so I'm fresh for tomorrow.

Q. One of the things you will have seen if you watch that particular part of the match is that when matches are tight, he slows things down a great deal. It's something he has been criticized for. What is your view of that?

ROGER FEDERER: Uhm, yeah, I mean, I've played him plenty where he took his time. You know, I mean, it's obviously a fine line, you know, because I think until he gets into position to serve, you know, he takes his 20 seconds, whatever, and then he takes another, you know, 10, 15 seconds until he really serves.
It's a tricky situation, you know. But the unfortunate part, let's say, is the umpire will always give him a warning, but he will never give him a point penalty. I'm not saying he abuses it, but he never really feels the heat that much.

Q. Is that irritating for you?

ROGER FEDERER: It used to be irritating let's say in the early days when I played him the fifth or sixth time, when I played him quite a few times in a row, and I really felt he was playing very slow. I think he's speeded it up actually a little bit since those times. I actually felt like he was playing fair, you know, lately. He does still play slow, but not as slow as maybe eight matches ago when I played him. Look, it's up to the umpire. I try to concentrate. I don't think I win or lose a match because he takes five seconds extra per point. That's not going to kill me.

Q. You wouldn't classify it as gamesmanship on his part, would you?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I wouldn't.

Q. He was okay for last year's final?

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying. You know, I didn't feel like he was taking a super amount of time that it would start to bother me the last few times I played him. It's on the edge I'm aware of that. It's up to the umpire to decide what he wants to do.

Q. Overall do you think he's made you a better player, having him in the same era as you, and vice versa?

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, to some degree I guess. He's made me improve, you know, just the approach, you know, playing against him. I was playing him quite differently in the beginning of my career. Well, the thing is also he's evolved as a player, started to play better. He's challenged me, you know, especially on I think clay for me. That was the major, major part of playing on Rafa on clay, it was the ultimate test for me, you know. I mean, I don't know how much he's helped me to play against other players. Playing him, because it's such a different dimension, such a different type of game, it's hard to really judge, you know. But I definitely feel like he's made me more tough, that's for sure.

Q. Two weeks ago did you almost assume that you would be playing Rafa in the final? Because of that, has your mindset always been on Sunday?

ROGER FEDERER: I mean, you sort of hope for being in the finals, first of all, and then whoever it is in the finals, you don't really care in the first place because all you want to be is you want to take part in it. Doesn't matter who it is. But then when you see the draw sort of, you know, being narrowed down, you see that Rafa is the big favorite in the other section, I'm the big favorite in my section, obviously you start thinking more about, you know, the possible final.

But in the beginning I was just really more concentrated on getting through my part of the draw, you know, because it's quite a bit of talk going on. I was defending champion. I don't want to, you know, go down in the first couple of rounds. I was able to avoid that. Then I think I played great throughout The Championships. So it's been a good week for me. And I could also just see all the other players play, which is always nice. And Rafa's been for me also, you know, by far the best guy in the other section of the draw, you know. So he totally deserves to be in the final.

Q. How much do these finals hurt? How deep into yourself do you have to dig mentally and physically?

ROGER FEDERER: Hurt in terms of what?

Q. How much do you have to hurt yourself to really work through these finals?

ROGER FEDERER: There's no pain. There's sort of a pressure that maybe wasn't there quite yet, you know, throughout, whereas maybe in the beginning, on the court, it's kind of hard. But you know you're playing a guy probably who's got a chance, but he's probably not going to upset you, you know, in Hrbaty. But this is different because this is now crunch time, it's playing the second best player in the world, somebody's got all the chances to beat you on any given day, you know. So you definitely respect that.

It's make or break, and that can sort of put you under more pressure or make you more nervous. I've been in this situation so many times that for me it's not really a whole lot different because for me I know I'm playing very well, and from that standpoint I don't have much to worry about. And I know if I do play well, I'm most likely, you know, going to win the finals.

But, again, I cannot control everything that happens, that comes from the other side of the court. I think it's just sort of a huge relief once the finals is over, no matter how it goes, just because the pressure is finally gone.

Q. What do you think about the fact that Rafael and you have played the last six finals in the French Open or here in Wimbledon? That speaks a lot about your competition, the other field of competitors.

ROGER FEDERER: I think it's quite incredible actually, you know, myself that we played each other so many times on big occasions. Okay, you could think that that would happen because we're No. 1 and No. 2 in the world. But I've been No. 1 for 230 weeks, I think he's been No. 2 for over 150 weeks, you know, all in a row. He's never lost his No. 2 position either.

You know, with his results that he hasn't been No. 1, it's also quite unbelievably tough for him, you know, and hard for whoever has been behind Rafa as well, to never become No. 2, as well. I'm very happy with my run in Paris. He's probably very happy with his run here in Wimbledon. We want a piece of each world, you know, but the other person hasn't given in yet. I think it's a great rivalry.

Q. Nothing like this has happened before.

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, to some degree I'm sure, but maybe not as extreme in such a short period of time, and especially maybe in a row like that. So I think it's very interesting. It's great.

Q. Do you get a sense of history about this rivalry, that people will look back at it in 20 years' time, Borg/McEnroe?

ROGER FEDERER: Honestly, it's quite hard for me to judge at the moment how this rivalry will be looked upon, you know, later on. Like we look at the Becker/Edberg, the McEnroe/Connors, or Borg/Lendl, you name it, Sampras/Agassi. I don't know how it's going to be looked at in many years' time because in the moment you're sort of right in it. You try to win the matches that come along, you know, against your main rival. You sort of just I don't know, it's hard.

I mean, I know it's something special what we're going through at the moment, but I think maybe in five years' time we'll sort of see more of how it will really have affected, you know, maybe juniors who came up, or the media, how they look at the new rivalries, all these kind of things, what they thought about it. At the moment you're right in the heat of it, so it's one big momentum.

SUKTUEN
07-05-2008, 04:37 PM
ALlez Roger!!!!!

Trust yourself and try your Best tomorrow!!
Support you all the way!!;)

juninhOH
07-05-2008, 07:14 PM
the idiots of press were talking about the "slow the game" thing like if Roger had said Nadal was cheating, wtf. It's incredible how the press is disgusting!

He clearly said "I'm not saying he cheated", and that he thinks its ok he takes his time.

juninhOH
07-05-2008, 07:15 PM
Good Luck Federer!

Sunset of Age
07-06-2008, 01:10 AM
the idiots of press were talking about the "slow the game" thing like if Roger had said Nadal was cheating, wtf. It's incredible how the press is disgusting!

He clearly said "I'm not saying he cheated", and that he thinks its ok he takes his time.

I fully agree with you - the way the press tries to stirr up this kind of garbage where it obviously doesn't exist, is disgusting. Fortunately Roger is wise enough not to take the bait, and I trust Rafa to react just the same. :mad:

Tennis journalists = cockroaches.

*esther*
07-06-2008, 01:31 AM
Was so busy lately, no time to hanging around here. :( Shamed on myself. :lol:

Roger to lift the 6th Wimby Trophy. Woohoo:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Hello guys!:wavey:

EternalxJourney
07-06-2008, 02:42 AM
Hi everyone. Just wanna drop by to wish Roger good luck tomorrow. Even if he were to lose tomorrow, I hope he won't go down without a fight. VAMOS!

guinevere_79
07-06-2008, 03:07 AM
Go Roger! I'll be praying and rooting for you!

Just a quick question: How many times has Roger lost his serve in these Championships? He didn't lose serve in the Safin, Ancic and Hewitt match. He didn't lose a service game in the first round, and I recall he lost one service game in the Soderling match. Did he lose a service game against Gicquel?

RogiFan88
07-06-2008, 03:45 AM
Although the naysayers are proclaiming TFA the favourite and predicting a TFA victory, and he is playing well (as he said in his own words) and has won his grass title at Queens, and is actually allowing himself to show his confidence; and where the odds are vs. Rogi winning his 6th consecutive Wimbledon, there are some positives for our Rogi:

Rogi is once again looking himself on the Wimbledon grasscourts

It is encouraging to see Rogi roar like a lion in his SF vs. Maratski, esp after match point, so happy to be in another Wimbledon final

Rogi has done enough throughout the tournament to win his matches – he hasn’t had to expend too much energy or emotion, nor play at a very high level – and he has won six matches without dropping a set, which is important to conserve energy, not only for Wimbledon, but for the gruelling season ahead

Rogi knows that he is able to step it up for the final vs. TFA – he has higher gears, which he doesn’t need to use all the time, only when necessary

Rogi is responding well to the press, which is mostly negative and on TFA’s side – in fact he is basically making them feel guilty for writing him off and announcing his demise
Wimbledon is Rogi’s backyard, his Cathedral, where his tennis can be showcased, where he feels most comfortable, and where the surface – grass – rewards the beauty of his game
Rogi is the five-time Wimbledon champion, which has to count for something – he knows how to play and WIN this tournament

It will not be easy for Rogi to win Wimbledon tomorrow but he has the skills, the talent, the desire and the sheer love to achieve it! If TFA wants it bad, then Rogi is very motivated to win his first slam of 2008!

If anyone can defy the odds at Wimbledon, it’s our Rogi. Remember, Rogi, in the words of the No 2 “pressure is for those who have never won it before”.

(TFA has had several “dreams” fulfilled this year already: made history by winning 4 consecutive MC/BCN and RG – equalling Borg, and completed his clay TMSes by winning Hamburg; won his first grass title at Queens AND he’s No 1 in the race, has won the most titles this year. Isn’t that enough?? He’s “only 22”, with many years ahead of him.)

It would be sweet justice for Rogi to hoist aloft the golden trophy tomorrow in reward for all his trials and hard work this year. May the Tennis Gods be with you.

TALLY HO, SIR ROGER! Wimbledon is YOUR domain!


not sure if I will watch this match live... but then how will I know what's happening and if there are rain delays??

RogiFan88
07-06-2008, 03:45 AM
I am certain that Rogi will not underestimate TFA's absolute determination not to let this title go by again...

NYCtennisfan
07-06-2008, 04:07 AM
It must be extraordinarily frustrating for a man who has been number 1 for 4.5 years, has won 12 slams, been in 12 out of the last 12 slam finals, won 65 in a row on grass, 28 sets straight on grass, etc. to have to answer 30 questions about Nadal. Wow.

Flibbertigibbet
07-06-2008, 04:56 AM
Go Roger! I'll be praying and rooting for you!

Just a quick question: How many times has Roger lost his serve in these Championships? He didn't lose serve in the Safin, Ancic and Hewitt match. He didn't lose a service game in the first round, and I recall he lost one service game in the Soderling match. Did he lose a service game against Gicquel?

He's lost serve twice -- which is very good. Once again Gicquel in his very first service game, and once against Soderling in the third set where he broke back immediately.

trickcy
07-06-2008, 06:33 AM
Go Roger! I'll be praying and rooting for you!

Just a quick question: How many times has Roger lost his serve in these Championships? He didn't lose serve in the Safin, Ancic and Hewitt match. He didn't lose a service game in the first round, and I recall he lost one service game in the Soderling match. Did he lose a service game against Gicquel?

Twice in the championships and throughout the grass season. Once against Soderling and then against Giquel.

It must be extraordinarily frustrating for a man who has been number 1 for 4.5 years, has won 12 slams, been in 12 out of the last 12 slam finals, won 65 in a row on grass, 28 sets straight on grass, etc. to have to answer 30 questions about Nadal. Wow.

12 out of the last 13 ;) But yes, he seems to have to talk more about Nadal than himself. The journalists' questions to Nadal were even more :rolleyes:. They basically implied that Roger called him a cheater and the moderator had to intervene. Oh boy..

Puschkin
07-06-2008, 07:04 AM
Good luck, Roger!

Ariadne
07-06-2008, 07:24 AM
Saw this posted on TW by Matt Zemek and thought I'd share, it basically beautifully encapsulates everything I feel about the importance of today's match for Roger's legacy:

As I reflect on this match, now just a bit more than 10 hours away, here's what I'd like to express:

Rafa deserves to take the No. 1 ranking, the Wimby torch, and the glory of tennis supremacy from Roger. He's every bit the gentleman and tennis ambassador Federer is, and is as grounded an elite athlete as we'll ever see in our lifetimes. Rafa is already a tennis great, not just a clay-court specialist, and as long as he stays healthy, he'll have the long run at the top that Roger has had.

I know, as a Fed fan, that the torch will be passed. I know that Rafa, by all historical benchmarks, should have had the No. 1 ranking by now, but hasn't. The longest-running No. 2 player in history deserves to have his mountaintop moments, and as long as his body doesn't break down, he should live to see those kinds of crowning, shining occasions.

With that as prelude, I can say with honesty and a real sense of inner peace that tomorrow's match is, in many ways, the last match that--at least for the time being--I really want Roger to win with a unique sense of urgency and something akin to the painful longing of love.

If Roger wins tomorrow, this relentless push over the past five years; this dalliance with destiny; this pursuit of history; this game played with the ghosts of tennis past; this unreal sequence of dominance mixed in with the annual heartbreak on the crushed red brick of Paris, will find its crowning moment, or to put a finer point on it, the crowning moment well within Federer's ability to achieve.

Rafa's performance at Roland Garros this year made me concede that Federer will never win the French Open, barring a Rafa injury (and that would be wholly and profoundly unsatisfying).

So what's left? Pete Sampras's 14 slams. And Wimbledon.

Wimbledon.

Wimbledon, the place where a Fed win tomorrow would, in my mind, clearly lift Roger past Borg in the tennis pantheon, forever and ever... not just for the 6 straight titles at SW19, but because a win tomorrow would represent the very achievement Borg failed to register when he lost to John McEnroe in the 1981 final. Rafa is McEnroe for one day tomorrow, the player anointed as the one who would take up the torch and seize the mantle of No. 1. If Fed holds Rafa off one more (last!) time, he would do something that would ripple through the pages of tennis history, echoing through the nooks and crannies of the All-England Club. Fed is playing this game right now (and in the future) not for Indian Wells or Cincinnati or Madrid in October, but for moments like this. If he wins tomorrow at Wimbledon, he heightens his place in history, for a tennis player never makes more history than when s/he wins at Wimbledon.

Wimbledon, the place where time stands still.

Wimbledon, the sporting event Psalm 23 could relate to.

Wimbledon, the high church experience in the tennis world.

Wimbledon, the bearer of Centre Court, unadorned with commercial references and logos with the sole exception of Rolex on the scoreboard.

Wimbledon, the place where the royal box is royal in a tennis sense more than in a monarchical sense.

Wimbledon, the one truly organic grand slam.

Wimbledon, the tournament where the spectators are reverently silent (on most occasions).

Wimbledon, the tournament that--until now--tests the patience of the tennis player more than any other (next year, the roof on Centre Court changes that equation).

When you win at Wimbledon, you make your name in tennis history.

When you win at Wimbledon at a rate no one has ever won before, you become immortal.

Six straight titles, in this era, would put Roger past Borg and on footing almost equal to Sampras solely within the context of Wimbledon's all-time greats. When one considers Fed's status as the second-best clay-court player of the past three years, and at least the third-best clay-court player of this decade (Kuerten being second), one can say that his larger, more wide-ranging bona fides and accomplishments (the 17 straight slam semis, the 12-of-13 run in terms of slam finals) would mean that a win tomorrow would transport Roger to a higher plane in the tennis pantheon.

Were he to lose to Rafa in 2009, he would still be the owner of six straight titles, a feat that--while technically not unprecedented (Willie Renshaw)--would be greater than that of any other Wimbledon player save Sampras. And given Roger's style of play, I'd like to think that he could win Wimby once before he turns 31, in August of 2012.

I think you can see what I'm getting at: Roger's running out of records to chase and landmark accomplishments to attain.

Tomorrow represents the last really great conquest in front of Fed at Wimbledon.

The difference between 5 and 6 straight Wimby titles is not trifling. The difference between 6 straight and 7 straight would be, because no one else has won 7 straight. That's not something Fed is chasing.

Tomorrow represents a final frontier for Roger. If he makes a third defense of his title against Rafa, and beats Rafa for a second straight time as a less-than-total favorite, it would mark the end of the line in a certain sense. In 2009, I don't think the burden of history would be on Fed; tomorrow, one final time, it is, and everything that's been written and said over the past three weeks suggests as much.

Tomorrow, Roger Federer plays with the weight of Wimbledon, the shadow of Borg, the ghosts of history all stacked on his shoulders.

If he wins tomorrow, he reaches--for me--a pinnacle that could only be exceeded by the French title that I don't think he'll ever win.

A win tomorrow--given all the pressure associated with this mammoth match--would prevent a tidal wave of worry and self-doubt from creeping into Fed's mind anytime soon. If he protects his home turf and his most cherished tournament one more time, his inner world remains secure, and the US Open becomes a likely scene of the tying of the Sampras record (especially if Djokovic is on the other side of the draw...).

If Roger wins tomorrow, a man who wants to play tennis for another 10 years would, for me, have already proven enough to be considered the second-greatest tennis player who has ever lived (behind Laver).

Give me tomorrow, just tomorrow, only tomorrow, nothing but tomorrow, and I can honestly say that Rafa can take the torch in 2009 without any pangs of regret, any lamentations of "what might have been."

A Fed win tomorrow would leave me fed and nourished and filled for a very long time, on a cosmic scale, on a higher level, in a transcendent fashion.

A win tomorrow, and Rafa can then feast at the table from that moment on. A win tomorrow, and Rafa can then begin his run of dominance. A win tomorrow, and Rafa can begin to make his own history at Wimbledon, becoming the fuller tennis champion that he will indeed be in the very near future.

You can't hold back time forever. No one can.

I'm only asking that Federer hold back time--and the wonderful, gallant and classy opponent who will (and should, and deserves to) one day overtake him--for one more day.

Then, as New York Ranger fans said in 1994 and Boston Red Sox fans said in 2004, "Now I can die in peace."

One more day, Roger, and my tennis soul will be fully and finally satisfied. My higher-than-high hopes will meet and materialize in the tournament where eternity fills the air. One more day, and there's little more I could ever want from the remarkable career of a special man from Switzerland.

It's a matter of when, not if, Rafael Nadal wins Wimbledon.

Tomorrow, or 2009.

Give me tomorrow, and I'll then concede many more tomorrows to the Mallorcan who will compile a tennis legacy that just might exceed Roger's, believe it or not, when all is said and done.

But for now, just give me tomorrow, and I can then be content.

JediFed
07-06-2008, 07:45 AM
He's chasing both the 6 in a row, and the 7 in 8 years, as well as Sampras record number of weeks at number one. Can't say I agree with the article that I would give it up to Nadal in 2009, because he will still be chasing the Sampras record. He still needs 14 too, and as long as he's still behind, I wouldn't want Rafa to take Wimbledon.

Ariadne
07-06-2008, 07:49 AM
If Roger wins this match, I think he's already on equal footing with Sampras on an all-time scale, because his clay-court accomplishments are so far beyond Sampras that being only 1 slam behind makes the overall career records even out. For me, tying Sampras in the number of slams would essentially be enough for Fed to pass Sampras on a larger and more complete scale of various measurements.

SUKTUEN
07-06-2008, 08:30 AM
my LORD Please Bless Roger play his Best Tennis in he final!!!:worship:
ALLEZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!!!!!:bounce::bounce:

Mrs. B
07-06-2008, 09:46 AM
Love Zemek's piece.
For now, give me today. Good luck, Roger!

if he wins today that would be his 6th straight Wimbers and 66th straight wins on grass.

666 :scared:

GO, ROGER!!!

Or Levy
07-06-2008, 10:12 AM
As I told Matt, if Roger win today he'll feel exactly the same in one year time.

But yeah, right now, just give me a win. And no delays, I'll die if I have to work tomorrow with the match not completed.

Daniel
07-06-2008, 10:28 AM
Good luck Roger :bounce: :kiss:

Go and beat easily that pig today.
Show him how to play on grass.

Vamos Roger :hug:

soonha
07-06-2008, 12:55 PM
Good Luck, Roger!

tonia9
07-06-2008, 01:01 PM
Hopp Roger!!
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

juninhOH
07-06-2008, 01:04 PM
%@#$!@#!@#%#$!@#!

the tv that is supposed to show the game apparently has technical problems!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

anon57
07-06-2008, 01:21 PM
Players are about to go out on court

juninhOH
07-06-2008, 01:36 PM
how do you know that anon? the rain stopped?

anon57
07-06-2008, 01:37 PM
Yeah, the rain stopped and they just started, Roger's serving

anon57
07-06-2008, 01:39 PM
1-0*

anon57
07-06-2008, 01:47 PM
And Nadal breaks 1-2*

juninhOH
07-06-2008, 01:47 PM
he cant get a 1st serve in :(

crude oil
07-06-2008, 01:47 PM
federer is not serving too well today. oh well. it was supposed to happen at some point

Sebby
07-06-2008, 01:48 PM
:smash:

anon57
07-06-2008, 01:49 PM
Not enough first serves for Roger and Nadal has been doing well returning, so apart from an ace in his first serve game, Roger hasn't gotten any free points on serve. Nadal is also serving very well and taking control of the points early

crude oil
07-06-2008, 01:50 PM
nadal has all sorts of confidence now.

WOW.

Rommella
07-06-2008, 01:52 PM
Aargh, an early break!

oneandonlyhsn
07-06-2008, 01:52 PM
:sad: I cant watch the final and things not looking good so far

Sebby
07-06-2008, 01:58 PM
3-1 Nadal

crude oil
07-06-2008, 01:58 PM
first time ever...nadal has the break in the first set and actually leads the match.

Sebby
07-06-2008, 01:59 PM
*3-2 Nadal

oneandonlyhsn
07-06-2008, 01:59 PM
Couldnt convert on the break point http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/mtf/images/smilies/frown.gif

Rommella
07-06-2008, 01:59 PM
From 40-0 down, he gets Nadal to deuce twice but oh, so painful. 4 good serves to hold serve, thank you.

Rommella
07-06-2008, 02:02 PM
All of Nadal's serves directed to the Fed backhand. Any adjustments, Roger?

Sebby
07-06-2008, 02:03 PM
4-2* Nadal :rolleyes:

oneandonlyhsn
07-06-2008, 02:04 PM
I am going offline for a bit guys, I really hope Roger can pull this off today

crude oil
07-06-2008, 02:04 PM
federer never learns...short approach to nadal's fh. :retard:

federer is trying to play way too many bh dtls and that is killing him.

attack the fh roger. He is trying to play too much bh to bh.

Sebby
07-06-2008, 02:07 PM
*4-3 Nadal

oneandonlyhsn
07-06-2008, 02:07 PM
He has to break now, he has to

yomeK
07-06-2008, 02:08 PM
Federer :sobbing: I think Nadal had a fairly lucky game to break in at 1-1 :o I think Nadal is just winning the important points- GPs, BPs, etc,. Fed :help: Please get it together.

yomeK
07-06-2008, 02:10 PM
All of Nadal's serves directed to the Fed backhand. Any adjustments, Roger?

It's so sad that this is such an attackable part in his game. :sad: I don't know why, but I feel as though Federer has gotten much more defensive with his backhand. :o I don't recall so many slice in 05 or 06. :confused:

Rommella
07-06-2008, 02:11 PM
Not looking good. Federer is putty in Nadal's hands.

crude oil
07-06-2008, 02:12 PM
federer's crappy bh returns.

Sebby
07-06-2008, 02:12 PM
5-3* Nadal :(

crude oil
07-06-2008, 02:13 PM
federer starts serving when it doesn't really matter

Sebby
07-06-2008, 02:13 PM
*5-4 Nadal

anon57
07-06-2008, 02:16 PM
federer starts serving when it doesn't really matter
:lol: It still matters if he'd continued serving poorly he may have been down more than one break, at the moment Nadal is playing better from the baseline so Roger will need to keep that serve working and try and get a foot in the Nadal service games because so far Nadal hasn't really been challenges in his own serve games.

taylor3698
07-06-2008, 02:19 PM
I just keep thinking about last year when everything look bad, Roger pull through. So I'm praying that he remembers this is not the French but his playground. Positive thoughts all around!! Break him now!!

Rommella
07-06-2008, 02:23 PM
This game is killing me.

Sebby
07-06-2008, 02:24 PM
1st set Nadal 6-4 :help:

taylor3698
07-06-2008, 02:25 PM
Just please don't lose in straight sets.

crude oil
07-06-2008, 02:26 PM
federer is too passive on the bps...run around and spank the fh.

he's so tentative and misses a dump slice into the net.

idiot

yomeK
07-06-2008, 02:26 PM
:o :help:

ExpectedWinner
07-06-2008, 02:28 PM
It seems he's content with his destiny of being Nadal's doormat.

rwn
07-06-2008, 02:28 PM
No confidence on breakpoints. Not a problem against most players, but a straight set loss against Nadal.

lunahielo
07-06-2008, 02:32 PM
Allez Roger..you can do it......................

taylor3698
07-06-2008, 02:32 PM
Is Roger going to break Nadal now? I'm thinking not. :( Please let me be wrong!!

crude oil
07-06-2008, 02:33 PM
federer starts playing aggressive now

taylor3698
07-06-2008, 02:33 PM
I was wrong!!! Thank the heavens!! Hold please hold serve!! Please hold your serve!! Or maybe I should say the opposite thing since everytime I say something I turn out wrong.

glycina
07-06-2008, 02:34 PM
Has just broken Nadal! Allez Rogi!

anon57
07-06-2008, 02:34 PM
Roger breaks, now hold you:armed:

lunahielo
07-06-2008, 02:36 PM
Now that´s the way to do it
Keep it up......

holagirl56
07-06-2008, 02:37 PM
I just keep thinking about last year when everything look bad, Roger pull through. So I'm praying that he remembers this is not the French but his playground. Positive thoughts all around!! Break him now!!

Just please don't lose in straight sets.

That was fast.

Roger played much better at the end of the first, but he just missed too many opportunities. He can do it! Just no hiccups.

glycina
07-06-2008, 02:38 PM
Hi, everyone here!:wavey:
I can breathe now!:)

lunahielo
07-06-2008, 02:38 PM
break him again.........................

taylor3698
07-06-2008, 02:39 PM
Great, Nadal is going to get a point. Damn. Wanted him to get an bagal.

oneandonlyhsn
07-06-2008, 02:40 PM
C'mon Roger anyone watching the match how are both players playing now compared to the 1st set

crude oil
07-06-2008, 02:42 PM
No confidence on breakpoints. Not a problem against most players, but a straight set loss against Nadal.

you know as well as i do that fed has always been a passive bp player esp against nadal.

lunahielo
07-06-2008, 02:42 PM
Roger is getting more aggressive................

holagirl56
07-06-2008, 02:42 PM
C'mon Roger anyone watching the match how are both players playing now compared to the 1st set

Roger's playing better. He's hitting the inside out fh really well and opening up the court for him. He's serving great too (he was serving well in the first except for that one sloppy game). Nadal has pretty much stayed at the same level; Roger's raised him. The only thing Roger could probably work on is his serve and volley game. I think the few times he tried it on a first serve, he lost the point.

oneandonlyhsn
07-06-2008, 02:46 PM
Roger's playing better. He's hitting the inside out fh really well and opening up the court for him. He's serving great too (he was serving well in the first except for that one sloppy game). Nadal has pretty much stayed at the same level; Roger's raised him. The only thing Roger could probably work on is his serve and volley game. I think the few times he tried it on a first serve, he lost the point.

:kiss: That is so encouraging to hear, my stupid network is not covering the match :smash:

Roger just needs to focus and remember that its not over until its over with Rafa, dont want any crazy comebacks

taylor3698
07-06-2008, 02:48 PM
Oh no. Don't let Nadal break back please! Maybe I should rephase this since everytime I say something I'm wrong.

anon57
07-06-2008, 02:49 PM
Nadal breaks back

Sebby
07-06-2008, 02:49 PM
break from Nadal :banghead:

holagirl56
07-06-2008, 02:49 PM
Jesus. :rolleyes:

He never holds serve when it's important.

rwn
07-06-2008, 02:50 PM
Sad,sad,sad ......

crude oil
07-06-2008, 02:50 PM
:haha:

:haha:

federer doesnt want to hit a bh dtl. stupid slice dtl arent going to cut it.

federer makes nadal's serve look like sampras. he cant return it

taylor3698
07-06-2008, 02:52 PM
He raise my hopes then he dashes it. Sigh.

yomeK
07-06-2008, 02:53 PM
Wow. :crying2: I am so sad. :(

trickcy
07-06-2008, 02:54 PM
Roger, there exists a thing called a backhand down the line. You are free to use it. Thank you.

trickcy
07-06-2008, 02:54 PM
Wow. :crying2: I am so sad. :(

:hug: So am I.

crude oil
07-06-2008, 02:56 PM
nadal's serve variation is very smart

anon57
07-06-2008, 02:57 PM
What a miss from Roger:o

Sebby
07-06-2008, 02:58 PM
4-4 what a fucking mug

crude oil
07-06-2008, 02:59 PM
federer has missed the fh volley on important pts before...its flash over substance

trickcy
07-06-2008, 02:59 PM
Roger :o

crude oil
07-06-2008, 02:59 PM
this game is super crucial

oneandonlyhsn
07-06-2008, 03:00 PM
Fuck Nadal held, I dont think I can handle following the match.
Dont know whats going on in Roger's mind, its not like he doesnt remember Hamburg. When he needs to focus the most is when he doesnt get it done.

:retard: And he is about to be broken as well what the fuck

crude oil
07-06-2008, 03:00 PM
how predictable

:haha:

taylor3698
07-06-2008, 03:01 PM
Ouch. Does he not want to stay on the court that long?

anon57
07-06-2008, 03:02 PM
Break Nadal, I can't see Federer coming back from 0-2 down in sets, unfortunately

Sebby
07-06-2008, 03:02 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

trickcy
07-06-2008, 03:02 PM
Nadal breaks. Will serve for the set. :(

rwn
07-06-2008, 03:02 PM
Bye bye Roger. You had everything to win this match. It's just your mental problems.

trickcy
07-06-2008, 03:03 PM
Break Nadal, I can't see Federer coming back from 0-2 down in sets, unfortunately

Neither can I. Not today. Not against Nadal.:(

marcRD
07-06-2008, 03:03 PM
Damn, I hate to be right sometimes.

Rommella
07-06-2008, 03:03 PM
Roger ...:crying2:

oneandonlyhsn
07-06-2008, 03:04 PM
Pathetic :retard:

If he loses today I think I will go off tennis for sometime now.

oneandonlyhsn
07-06-2008, 03:05 PM
Rafa wants it way more than he does

NYCtennisfan
07-06-2008, 03:05 PM
Wow is all I can say. He won just about every point on serve in the 1st set other than the game he was broken. Go to the 2nd set: he's up 4-1 and then gets broken by losing every point on the deuce court, his strong court. Then he gets a BP chance, and loses it and then is mentally gone for his service game.

Rommella
07-06-2008, 03:05 PM
This is looking like Nadal in 4 sets.

trickcy
07-06-2008, 03:06 PM
This is looking like Nadal in 4 sets.

Or three.:sad:

NYCtennisfan
07-06-2008, 03:06 PM
Rafa wants it way more than he does

I think Fed wants it just as bad, but is playing tentatively. All the pression has finally caught up to him.

marcRD
07-06-2008, 03:06 PM
Its life, nothing lasts forever.

NYCtennisfan
07-06-2008, 03:07 PM
Federer showing a lot of guts in this game. Needs to break or it's over.

trickcy
07-06-2008, 03:09 PM
Roger, break him. It's make or break now.

crude oil
07-06-2008, 03:09 PM
I think Fed wants it just as bad, but is playing tentatively. All the pression has finally caught up to him.

desire is clearly not the problem...he may want it too much sometimes

marcRD
07-06-2008, 03:10 PM
Now its time for a miracle...

trickcy
07-06-2008, 03:11 PM
2nd set Nadal. :sad:

anon57
07-06-2008, 03:11 PM
Down 0-2 in sets, really don't see him coming back from this. Nadal is playing better on important points.

taylor3698
07-06-2008, 03:11 PM
Like I said previously. Please don't make this into a straight set defeat.