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*******Rolling in the Grass - A Wimbledon 2008 Thread!!*******

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Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:29 PM
4-5

Roger go Roger :D

didadida
06-25-2008, 05:29 PM
Roger breakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
5-4

Allure
06-25-2008, 05:29 PM
Yessssssssssss :)

didadida
06-25-2008, 05:30 PM
well done Roger

nobama
06-25-2008, 05:30 PM
Thanks to the Toad for choking that game. :) Now c'mon Roger step it up and win this match in straights!! :(

didadida
06-25-2008, 05:31 PM
5 alllllllllllllllllllllll

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:31 PM
5 all
Break him Roger

:bounce:

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:35 PM
5-6 Roger serving to force tie breaker in final set.

Allure
06-25-2008, 05:37 PM
I hate TB's. :scared:

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:37 PM
6 all. tiebreak time

anon57
06-25-2008, 05:38 PM
5-6 Roger serving to force tie breaker in final set.
;)Roger will need to win the tiebreak for it to be the final set:p

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:38 PM
1 roger

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:39 PM
2 love
Roger

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:40 PM
3 love
Roger

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:40 PM
4 love
Roger keep winnig this tb.

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:40 PM
5 love
Roger

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:41 PM
5 - 1
Roger

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:43 PM
5 2
Roger lost both serves

didadida
06-25-2008, 05:43 PM
match point

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:43 PM
6 2
Roger

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:44 PM
6- 3
Roger

luvly1
06-25-2008, 05:44 PM
Just so everyone knows i just made my 13 year nephew a tennis fan but most importantly a Federer fan. Lets go roger one more point.

Daniel
06-25-2008, 05:44 PM
Federer wins 6-3 6-4 7-6 (7-3)

Congratulations master of grass
:worship:
now go buy Mirka some food and celebrate your victory and that the clown lost earlier today.

didadida
06-25-2008, 05:44 PM
yeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

luvly1
06-25-2008, 05:44 PM
Congrats Roger.

luvly1
06-25-2008, 05:45 PM
Number 61 baby!!!!!!!

anon57
06-25-2008, 05:46 PM
Good match from Roger, there's still some things that he'll need to work on, mostly his return of serve but for a second round match it wasn't bad.

Rogieva
06-25-2008, 05:46 PM
63 64 76(3)

was 25 down in the third, saved a SP when Robin served for the set at *5-4 and cruised through the TB

Good win :)

Mrs. B
06-25-2008, 05:46 PM
Federer wins 6-3 6-4 7-6 (7-3)

Congratulations master of grass
:worship:
now go buy Mirka some food and celebrate your victory and that the clown lost earlier today.

:lol:

no, the Gavins will buy Roger and Mirka dinner tonight! ;)

Well done, Roger! Finally got rid of that pesky toad. :devil:

maskedmuffin
06-25-2008, 05:47 PM
2 down, 5 to go

moving it right along, all in a day's work :cool:

luzkoz
06-25-2008, 05:48 PM
Good comeback in the third set :).
Otherwise, keep the streak going Roger :worship:.

luvly1
06-25-2008, 05:51 PM
i think gwen should go pop out that baby...and then they should go get something to eat besides we dont want mirka geting any ideas so get that baby out of here. ( sry i think i am still crazy from the Safin win)

Marek.
06-25-2008, 06:06 PM
I didn't get to see the third set but was it more of Toad choking or Fed stepping it up?

Rogieva
06-25-2008, 06:11 PM
I didn't get to see the third set but was it more of Toad choking or Fed stepping it up?

Bit of both. Toad played an awful TB. Tried hitting a 125mph second serve and no surprise it was a DF

Marek.
06-25-2008, 06:13 PM
Bit of both. Toad played an awful TB. Tried hitting a 125mph second serve and no surprise it was a DF

Well he had been hitting a lot of big second serves so he was bound to DF sooner or later. As long as Fed got the win that's all that matters.

juninhOH
06-25-2008, 06:28 PM
I'm sick of the huge fedtards thinking Federer is 10% slower, that his return of serve sucks, that he should make this and that in order to win.

what the fuck!

the man has lost serve one time in the last 7 matches! he didn't lose a set in those matches! He won 13 of the last 14 matches.

If he was anything close to what the retards have been saying he would have lost more matches than that, thats for sure!

Today Roger felt in control the whole match, he slept a bit in the 3rd and got himself a break. The game after Soderling served very well. When a big server serves like that there is not much you can do.

anon57
06-25-2008, 06:41 PM
I'm sick of the huge fedtards thinking Federer is 10% slower, that his return of serve sucks, that he should make this and that in order to win.

what the fuck!

the man has lost serve one time in the last 7 matches! he didn't lose a set in those matches! He won 13 of the last 14 matches.

If he was anything close to what the retards have been saying he would have lost more matches than that, thats for sure!

Today Roger felt in control the whole match, he slept a bit in the 3rd and got himself a break. The game after Soderling served very well. When a big server serves like that there is not much you can do.
Some of the comments in th match thread on GM seems like he barely scraped out of the match 12-10 in final set or something. I don't think Federer was playing brilliantly but he certainly wasn't as bad as some of those comments make it seem
rant over:o

nobama
06-25-2008, 06:49 PM
GM is pissed because Djoker (Mr. "Federer is vulnerable") is out and Roger is still alive. :lol:

I've given up on the perfectionists a long time ago. Some have even crept over to rf. com.

NYCtennisfan
06-25-2008, 09:34 PM
Pretty good match from Fed aside from the horrible game he played to get broken in the 3rd set.

He wasn't going for all that much because Soderling was spraying a lot of balls and not moving all that well. CC FH angled was the shot of the day as he hit it over and over and over again getting the shortish CC Fh reply, which he then hit DTL'ish to come to net. HIs approach shots didn't have much on them, but Soderling was doing a poor job of passing him. Nothing brilliant, but a solid win.

rofe
06-26-2008, 01:03 AM
So what is Gicquel's playing style?

SUKTUEN
06-26-2008, 01:20 AM
Thankyou my LORD!!!!!!!!!:bowdown:
Come On Roger!!!:bounce::bounce:

elessar
06-26-2008, 01:20 AM
He has a pretty good FH and serve and likes to slide a lot :D

SUKTUEN
06-26-2008, 01:36 AM
Roger play very forcus in the TB~~

I love his fight~~:D

RogiFan88
06-26-2008, 04:11 AM
good for Rogi winning in straights vs. the Toad, despite getting broken but this will serve him well for future matches as it gets tougher... Gicquel, hopefully will be another straightforward win in three, I hope...

lots of good guys still in on Rogi's side... Ferru, Verdasco, Ancic, Berdych, Baggy, even Hewitt... who've all done well on grass either lately or in the past...

fedexdelivers
06-26-2008, 04:44 AM
Pretty good match from Fed aside from the horrible game he played to get broken in the 3rd set.

He wasn't going for all that much because Soderling was spraying a lot of balls and not moving all that well. CC FH angled was the shot of the day as he hit it over and over and over again getting the shortish CC Fh reply, which he then hit DTL'ish to come to net. HIs approach shots didn't have much on them, but Soderling was doing a poor job of passing him. Nothing brilliant, but a solid win.


I wonder if Fed gets a bit bored when he's clearly winning sometimes. I did and was slumped in my comfy couch instead of at the edge of the seat. Even us "mortals" raise our game when we feel more of a threat and do just enough when we know we are clearly the better player. Maybe he needed the "excitement" of having to break back.

Anyway, I know for sure Roger's gonna win Wimby now. Why? Cos Anna Wintour's in town.

fedexdelivers
06-26-2008, 04:46 AM
So what is Gicquel's playing style?


No idea but Roger played him in USO 06 and won in straight sets with one tie-break.

I want Roger to win Wimby but will be able to breathe a bit better when he reaches QF and secures No. 1 after Wimby.

marat_roger
06-26-2008, 08:00 AM
good win from Roger winning in straights against Soderling :D

Keep going Roger !:)

anon57
06-26-2008, 11:41 AM
:lol:BBC has a two of their presentors walking around on the grounds in Serena's raincoat and Roger's cardigan to see how the people felt about it.

SUKTUEN
06-26-2008, 03:37 PM
Allez Roger!!!!!!

trickcy
06-26-2008, 03:51 PM
:lol:BBC has a two of their presentors walking around on the grounds in Serena's raincoat and Roger's cardigan to see how the people felt about it.

And what did the people say about it?

rofe
06-26-2008, 04:52 PM
He has a pretty good FH and serve and likes to slide a lot :D

Baseliner?

Daniel
06-26-2008, 06:15 PM
Shit. I wanted Nadal to lose today but Gulbis didnt impress.
and now Duck is struggling against Tipsarevic. :eek:

rofe
06-26-2008, 07:05 PM
Shit. I wanted Nadal to lose today but Gulbis didnt impress.
and now Duck is struggling against Tipsarevic. :eek:

Duck would be useless against Nadal even if they had met. The surface is playing like a slow hardcourt. Nadal's only real test in the draw is Murray (if Murray gets that far).

anon57
06-26-2008, 07:21 PM
And what did the people say about it?
Well some people prefered Serena's trenchcoat, but overall it seemed like people thought it was nice, although that could just be because they didn't want to say they didn't like it on tv;)

Shit. I wanted Nadal to lose today but Gulbis didnt impress.
and now Duck is struggling against Tipsarevic. :eek:
Gulbis was a bit inconsistent but I didn't think he played badly, he just lacked the skill and experience at the moment to defeat Nadal but overall Gulbis played pretty well Nadal was just better when he needed to be

ExpectedWinner
06-26-2008, 07:21 PM
LOL, all supposedly tough grass court players (Karlovic, Djoker, Roddick) Nadal had to play at Queen's did not survive first 2 rounds at W.

Rogieva
06-26-2008, 07:44 PM
Roddick out :eek:

Sharapova out :eek:

So many upsets

NYCtennisfan
06-26-2008, 07:55 PM
Duck would be useless against Nadal even if they had met. The surface is playing like a slow hardcourt. Nadal's only real test in the draw is Murray (if Murray gets that far).

The court is playing like a slow hardcourt because everyone is hitting with so much topspin. If you hit flat, the ball is not bouncing up like it does on a hardcourt and it gives you opportunities to come to net if you have those skills. In the old days, nobody used to hit winners from the back of the court because the ball just doesn't move like that on grass. What it does do, however, is not bounce up and you an take advantage by coming to net. I've seen dozens of balls hit that have died after the second bounc in the first 4 days. You just have to attack, but the players don't have the skills.

NYCtennisfan
06-26-2008, 07:57 PM
Baseliner?

He has a good serve and pretty good FH. He'll come into net occasionally. Fed will have to fall apart not to advance Friday.

nobama
06-26-2008, 08:33 PM
The court is playing like a slow hardcourt because everyone is hitting with so much topspin. If you hit flat, the ball is not bouncing up like it does on a hardcourt and it gives you opportunities to come to net if you have those skills. In the old days, nobody used to hit winners from the back of the court because the ball just doesn't move like that on grass. What it does do, however, is not bounce up and you an take advantage by coming to net. I've seen dozens of balls hit that have died after the second bounc in the first 4 days. You just have to attack, but the players don't have the skills.Yeah I keep hearing people talk about the grass (100% rye) and the balls, but I think you've nailed it as to why grass court tennis just isn't the same anymore. It's a shame too. :sad:

Marek.
06-27-2008, 12:11 AM
LOL, all supposedly tough grass court players (Karlovic, Djoker, Roddick) Nadal had to play at Queen's did not survive first 2 rounds at W.

Strategic tanks so that they don't get humiliated by Nadal later on. ;)

IAndy always says that BS. :rolleyes: Just keep believing that man, and have fun losing in the fourth round. :yeah: :o

LOL, not even close. :sad:

nobama
06-27-2008, 12:47 AM
Yeah all we heard pre-Wimbledon is how Roger's win in Halle meant fuck all because the competition was tougher at Queens. :haha:

SUKTUEN
06-27-2008, 01:25 AM
Allez Roger!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bounce::bounce::bounce:
GOD Please Bless Roger play a good match tonight!!!:bowdown:

rofe
06-27-2008, 04:01 AM
The court is playing like a slow hardcourt because everyone is hitting with so much topspin. If you hit flat, the ball is not bouncing up like it does on a hardcourt and it gives you opportunities to come to net if you have those skills. In the old days, nobody used to hit winners from the back of the court because the ball just doesn't move like that on grass. What it does do, however, is not bounce up and you an take advantage by coming to net. I've seen dozens of balls hit that have died after the second bounc in the first 4 days. You just have to attack, but the players don't have the skills.

You mean that if you hit flat, it should stay low at which point you can come in and finish it off with a volley? I no longer see the uneven low bounce that grass is famous for. It seems to bounce truer. Maybe it is due to the dying art of volleying.

NYCtennisfan
06-27-2008, 04:53 AM
You mean that if you hit flat, it should stay low at which point you can come in and finish it off with a volley? I no longer see the uneven low bounce that grass is famous for. It seems to bounce truer. Maybe it is due to the dying art of volleying.

The bounce is a bit more even, but even so, the ball doesn't bounce up the way it would on hards even with all the topspin being put on the ball. I saw a ball hit in the Danecivic/Reynolds match hit by Frank which went CC for a winner; the ball stopped bouncing after the second bounce right outside of the doubles alley. The outside courts seem to play faster, but in any case, you the ball flat, and come to net, you have a good chance to win the points. Nobody plays like that now, so it's a moot point.

Daniel
06-27-2008, 07:44 AM
Good luck Roger vs Gicquel :kiss: :clap2:

trickcy
06-27-2008, 09:13 AM
Roddick out:( I didn't think he would make it far, even if he did, didn't think he would trouble Nadal, but I wish he had gone a deeper in the draw.
Sharapova's gone :banana:
Gulbis played better than I expected, but his grass game still isn't good enough.

Allez Roger!

Btw,is it just me or does somebody else feel that Roger isn't generating the speed of the racket that he used to compared to last year's Wimby? Or is it that he's doing so on purpose?

luzkoz
06-27-2008, 09:17 AM
Good luck Roger for todays match :D

didadida
06-27-2008, 10:10 AM
Allez Roger

oneandonlyhsn
06-27-2008, 01:35 PM
Roddick out:( I didn't think he would make it far, even if he did, didn't think he would trouble Nadal, but I wish he had gone a deeper in the draw.
Sharapova's gone :banana:
Gulbis played better than I expected, but his grass game still isn't good enough.

Allez Roger!

Btw,is it just me or does somebody else feel that Roger isn't generating the speed of the racket that he used to compared to last year's Wimby? Or is it that he's doing so on purpose?

Too much time spent on the dirt :(

JediFed
06-27-2008, 02:02 PM
Break! Roger up 4*-2.

Another RogFan
06-27-2008, 02:06 PM
The man on the court doesn't play like professional tennis player. It looks like Federer suffered amnesia last night and he is learning how to play now. :confused:

JediFed
06-27-2008, 02:13 PM
Which man?

6-3. Fed takes the first set.

luzkoz
06-27-2008, 02:14 PM
Roger had a bit of a shaky start, being broken and all that :o.
But he quickly found his way back into the match :D. And of course takes the first set :p.

JediFed
06-27-2008, 02:17 PM
Oh, ok. I only caught it at 2-2, and saw Roger with bps in every return game, so I was curious about that comment.

Roger up a set and a break. 6-3 1*-0

Another RogFan
06-27-2008, 02:22 PM
The man on the court doesn't play like professional tennis player. It looks like Federer suffered amnesia last night and he is learning how to play now. :confused:

The first 5 games was really pain in the ... so i made that comment.

JediFed
06-27-2008, 02:26 PM
Roger holds, saves a bp.

6-3 3-1*

Hewitt destroying superBol

6-1 3-1*

fedsfan1
06-27-2008, 02:31 PM
GO ROGER

ALLEZ

HOPP

JediFed
06-27-2008, 02:40 PM
Breaks for the set!

6-3 6-3. 4-11 on breakpoints.

Marek.
06-27-2008, 02:42 PM
So when did he get broken today?

luzkoz
06-27-2008, 02:42 PM
Roger :bigclap:.
Loved the way he finished this set. :cool: With a nice forehand :D.

Dirk
06-27-2008, 02:44 PM
Roger is making some dumb mistakes but he is playing mostly great and he is serving and volleying more plus he is ripping more 2nd serves on both sides which is really a sight for sore eyes. He is getting better and this player is pretty darn good. Roger just needs to cut down on the dumb errors but he is headed in the right direction. His movement is good and I hope it will get a bit better in the next match.

luzkoz
06-27-2008, 02:45 PM
So when did he get broken today?
First game in the first set. :o

yanchr
06-27-2008, 02:47 PM
Roger :bigclap:.
Loved the way he finished this set. :cool: With a nice forehand :D.
That looked to me the only forehand winner he hit today like he is Roger Federer :tape:

Marek.
06-27-2008, 02:48 PM
First game in the first set. :o

Better that then lets say, serving for the set. :D ;)

Well, barring two incredible meltdowns, it looks like Fed plays Hewitt in the next round. Looking forward to that match. :yeah:

luzkoz
06-27-2008, 02:49 PM
Better that then lets say, serving for the set. :D ;)

Well, barring two incredible meltdowns, it looks like Fed plays Hewitt in the next round. Looking forward to that match. :yeah:

So true :tape:

JediFed
06-27-2008, 02:51 PM
Break!

6-3 6-3 3*-1

JediFed
06-27-2008, 02:59 PM
Break again! Roger at 50 percent returning. :D

Take it home Roger! :D

75/83/56. Not bad. 3:1 ratio for winners to UE.

6-3 6-3 6-1.

62 wins in a row.

2 more matches to clinch number 1.

luzkoz
06-27-2008, 02:59 PM
And another break :worship:

Daniel
06-27-2008, 03:00 PM
Roger won match :)
63 63 61
Well done..
Next round he likely to face Hewitt.

Marek.
06-27-2008, 03:01 PM
I only started watching at 5-3 in the second but I thought it was a pretty good match from there.

maskedmuffin
06-27-2008, 03:02 PM
3 down 4 to go
moving right along :cool: nothing more to say :cool:

Dirk
06-27-2008, 03:03 PM
Great showing, Ninja got more and more back to his normal self as the match went on. I love it. :D 11 errors and 34 winners. Great showing Roger and keep improving, you only need to grow a bit more this event and you will own it once again.

Rogieva
06-27-2008, 03:09 PM
63 63 61 win

31 winners to 11 ue (it seems to me that he hit more ue) nonetheless a quick and well played match :)

Roger gets the weekend off now and will play winner of Hewitt/Bolleli

Hewitt could be tricky and his first real test!

62 wins in a row!

luzkoz
06-27-2008, 03:16 PM
Yeah 62 :cool:.
Love it :D. Keep going :).

Rogieva
06-27-2008, 03:47 PM
Hewitt up next.

First real test. Wouldn't be surprised if Roger drops a set here.

glycina
06-27-2008, 04:15 PM
Hewitt is really a eternal rival for Roger.
Roger mentions often his name in the interview when
nobody thinks that he will give his name concerning
the topic. After 07AO, Roger talked about the time
when Hewitt was number one : << Nobody could think
of defeating him>>. Before this Wimby too, he
gave his name.
I remember that he compared Hewitt with a cat! A cat
has nine lives. He has mistaken this folklore and he said : << I was surprised.
He was just like a cat. He could come to life seven times>>.
The journalists laughed and he rectified : << Not seven?
nine? With a cat with seven lives, I could have won
more easily!>>

:


:::

trickcy
06-27-2008, 04:28 PM
1st set beginning was :confused: from Fed. But,the third set was good.
Hewitt up next.
Onwards Roger:rocker2:

trickcy
06-27-2008, 04:30 PM
Btw,is it just me or does somebody else feel that Roger isn't generating the speed of the racket that he used to compared to last year's Wimby? Or is it that he's doing so on purpose?

Too much time spent on the dirt :(

:( Those loopy forehands at times:(
Today seemed a bit better.
Does anybody else feel that way?:wavey:

glycina
06-27-2008, 05:27 PM
:( Those loopy forehands at times:(
Today seemed a bit better.
Does anybody else feel that way?:wavey:

Me too, I feel that way. I feel always that
the opponent seems to have stronger shots.
But, any way Roger keeps on winning. So,he may have
changed the tactics and not to depend too much
on power. But I don't want to think about the pudding shots
against Rafa at RG.:tape:

nobama
06-27-2008, 05:37 PM
1st set beginning was :confused: from Fed. But,the third set was good.
Hewitt up next.
Onwards Roger:rocker2:
Why because he got broken right away? As the set progressed he started playing better. And overall the match was good. Considering top players are exiting left and right, Roger winning comfortably without dropping a set is all good. :)

RogerFan82
06-27-2008, 06:04 PM
Roger is playing with a bit more topspin on his FH since the beginning of clay season. I think it's a good strategy. Fewer errors and heavier ball. He'll flatten it out for the hardcourt season.

glycina
06-27-2008, 06:15 PM
Roger is playing with a bit more topspin on his FH since the beginning of clay season. I think it's a good strategy. Fewer errors and heavier ball. He'll flatten it out for the hardcourt season.

Thanks for the analysis.
I can understand now why I have found his shots
a little bit different.

By the way, Hewitt seems to have come to life
again as far as I wachted today's match.

Allez Roger!

trickcy
06-27-2008, 06:33 PM
Why because he got broken right away? As the set progressed he started playing better. And overall the match was good. Considering top players are exiting left and right, Roger winning comfortably without dropping a set is all good. :)

I prefer him broken at the beginning rather than when serving for the set :lol:. No, because of the wind causing his UE, and Gicquel returning pretty well. I'm more than happy with the way he played today. :)

Roger is playing with a bit more topspin on his FH since the beginning of clay season. I think it's a good strategy. Fewer errors and heavier ball. He'll flatten it out for the hardcourt season.

He's going for the percentage, I see that. But, I wish he'd flatten it out some more times just to be more aggressive. He can also use that to approach the net if he wants, it's not going to be easy to get to the net with topspin FH as it sits up.

trickcy
06-27-2008, 06:49 PM
www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2008-06-27/200806271214589352613.html


Friday, 27 June 2008


Roger Federer def. Marc Gicquel 6-3, 6-3, 6-1

Q. Marat Safin, after his win a couple days ago, thanked the club for slowing down the courts. How have you seen the courts change here over the years, and how does the change affect your chances?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I don't think it's that much of a difference since I played Pete here in 2001 really. So, I mean, it's not that extreme, you know, to the point where I need to thank anybody, I think, you know.

I think it's just also the way how players are playing today: more from the baseline, not as much serve and volley, chip and charge. That sort of gives you the feeling that it's slowed down, as well, you know.

Because 95% of the guys play from the baseline today, whereas before it was maybe 50/50. That is a big change, I think, and that's happened in the last, let's say, 10, 15 years.

Q. You must be very satisfied with your first week's work.

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I'm very happy. I think I played well. You know, my opening match against Soderling was difficult. Today was a very solid match again, so I'm very happy the way I played. Conditions weren't always easy, you know, with quite a lot of wind.

Then today, you know, I got broken first game. You know, the rain sort of looming around, you know, maybe wasn't the best conditions.

But still, you know, I think I played a good match today, and I'm obviously very excited to play again on Monday.

Q. Do you think you have a psychological advantage on Lleyton Hewitt?

ROGER FEDERER: Why is that?

Q. You've beaten a lot of players, but you seem to have beaten him resoundingly. Do you think you have any sort of advantage over him?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, I've definitely played well against him the last times I've played him. Don't remember when the last time was that I actually played him. It's been a while now again.

I think, that works in his favor maybe, just, you know, that we haven't now we played last week where I beat him quite comfortably, that didn't happen.

It's always a challenge playing Lleyton. He's a great player, a guy I really enjoy watching, as well. He's a great competitor. Yeah, we go back a long time. We played when we were 15, you know, for the first time against each other. Saved match point and won in the end. So we go way back.

Especially here, him being, you know, former No. 1, former champion here, I think it's an intriguing match for both of us.

Q. The fact that he's the only other person here who's won, does that make any difference?

ROGER FEDERER: Not a whole lot, I think. It's been a while, but at the same time he knows what it takes to win slams. So does Marat and other players. But I think Lleyton Hewitt definitely believes very strongly in his chances, which is normal.

Q. What do you like most about being on the court of play with just one other person, that one to one aspect of your competition?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, that I'm in control if I win or lose. I mean, in some ways, of course, the opponent also has some say in it, obviously. I also enjoy team sports a lot, you know. I'm not completely like the individual athlete, whatever, because I grew up, you know, doing all sorts of sports.

And soccer for me, you know, celebrating the goal with the mates, was a great feeling, you know. Maybe even more exhilarating than winning on a tennis court all alone.

But at the same time, I think tennis is by far my favorite sport. And, you know, having no body contact I think is also something I don't mind. So it's just better for, you know, not to get injuries through somebody who's lost his mind, let's just say, you know. So I'm happy about that.

And I think the fairness is also a big factor, which I like about this game.

Q. You come here, you stay in a house and not a hotel, you're not in a big city, and you now presumably have three days off. How big a deal are these different rhythms, just different vibes that this place has as opposed to the other three slams?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, it's very slow. You know, it's just very easy here. Like you say, we stay in a house here. We don't stay in a hotel. I think it's the only tournament actually throughout the year I do that.

I just can't beat the traffic every day, maybe get stuck in traffic for two hours. I'm not in the mood for that. That's really the big reason why I'm staying in a house here.

It's nice, you know. It's been a busy, you know, schedule the last few weeks, as well. So it's nice to sort of slow down with Halle and Wimbledon, not having sort of a big city around you. If you want, you know, from Wimbledon, of course, then you can go for a nice night out in the city. You've obviously got London right in front of you, which is, you know, a great city. I'll probably enjoy the weekend, you know, with some city action.

Q. Is there any sense that you accelerated in the third set because of the risk of rain, or was that just how it happened spontaneously?

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I wish I could turn on a button and say, Okay, rain's coming. Let's just quickly win and then it's all done. It's not the way it works.

Q. There is a feeling watching that maybe you did accelerate.

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, this is Wimbledon. This is not some junior tournament where you're like 10 times bigger than the other guy.

Q. It's just the way it happened?

ROGER FEDERER: This is serious stuff. I tried to push pressure on him as much as I could. I think I played well, you know, off the baseline. In the second set I couldn't read his serve very well. He got quite a few easy games, you know, in a row. He didn't maybe serve that well, got more into his service games, and I served well all the way through. So it was a good finish in the end.

Q. You mentioned there are more baseline players now. Do you find that's wearing the grass away on the baseline and causing strange bounces?

ROGER FEDERER: Not that much, to be honest, except if you hit it hard down the middle. That's not something you usually do, let's say. I think the bad bounce would sort of be behind the baseline, because this is where we run, not right on the baseline or right in front.

Actually, those bad bounces don't occur that often here at Wimbledon, which is great. I think it almost looks worse from the outside, because when you play you think the grass is green because it's right in front of you, you know. The dirt, you actually are running on it. You don't look at it. It's no problem for the bounce really.

Q. There were a couple of big surprises yesterday: Roddick and Blake going out. Did you see the games? What did you think?

ROGER FEDERER: I saw a little bit of Blake. You know, he's struggled on grass always a little bit, so that's not as big of a surprise that Andy lost. I really thought he had a shot this year of doing really well again.

But it was a disappointing match for him, no doubt. You know, Tipsarevic, obviously he's a dangerous and tough player. But I still would have thought, you know, Andy would have come through. So he'll be very disappointed, because there goes another chance for Andy at Wimbledon.

Q. How do you assess the state of the draw three rounds in?

ROGER FEDERER: I'm happy with the way I'm playing. No doubt there's been some surprises, you know, especially Andy and Novak losing. Doesn't happen, you know, very often in slams, lately especially. So it's sort of big news automatically because they've been playing very consistently, especially Novak the last few months.

Doesn't affect me a whole lot, you know, because I'm not in the semis yet where I would have had to face Novak. I'm sort of concentrated on my own game, and I've got my hands full with Lleyton in the next round, which I definitely won't underestimate.

Yeah, Rafa struggling against Gulbis doesn't surprise me a whole lot. He's still in the draw. He's surviving. I think he'll be tough to beat in the other half.

Q. Obviously in the tournament here at Wimbledon there's been a lot of upsets of the top seeds. Yet slam after slam you're getting deep in the semis and finals. Aside from the obvious sheer talent, what is the key, the important part of being able to get into the semis and finals?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I mean, you've got to be healthy first of all. I mean, you know, not being injured or anything. So that's a plus I have, you know, because maybe of good scheduling. I'm confident I'm doing the right things sort of off the court to keep myself healthy.

Other than that, I think I know what it takes, obviously, to win slams or to go far. So I have the proper preparation. I have the belief, you know, not underestimating any opponents in any way.

Then I got many different possibilities, you know, in my game that allow me to beat all sort of different kinds of playing styles. It's not enough just beating the aggressive baseliner, you've got to beat the guy, the counter puncher, the serve and volleyer if there is, the lefty, the righty.

I think that's the difficult part, you know, to be able to have a game that adapts to any playing style.

That's what I've been able to create over the last few years. Obviously, the record is great, to be so consistent at the highest level, and this is what I always sort of dreamt of. When I came on tour, everybody was telling me, He's a good player on any given day, but he's not very consistent. You know, so that was sort of my dream: to be consistent.

I took it to the next level, which is obviously very, very nice for me.

Q. Do you feel at this tournament more than others that you have something to prove?

ROGER FEDERER: To myself maybe, yeah. I mean, I always like to win all the tournaments I enter, you know. Doesn't happen all the time because it's not possible. But playing at Wimbledon always creates extra pressure because it's what's closest to my heart. Maybe wish someday my career ends here in a way, because it's the most prestigious tournament we have on tour. That alone creates pressure, so I want to prove it to myself I can do it again here.

Q. What do you make of the notion that squash shots are occasionally being played or shots that come out of the squash game are being played today?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, it's the only way to get the ball back sometimes. It's the only option you have sometimes. You have so little time, you don't have time to get your feet set properly to the ball because it goes over the net so quickly sometimes.

It's an improvisation shot, but it's been around for 15 years or so, so it's not a shot that's entirely new to the game, I think.

Rogieva
06-27-2008, 09:03 PM
Roger and Hewitt have been big rivals every since they were juniors. Nowadays Roger has is number, but anything is happening at this Wimbledon.

Roger needs to step it up to dimiss Hewitt

FedFan_2007
06-27-2008, 09:59 PM
Fed always comes to play against the top players. I expect a thrashing on Monday.

marat_roger
06-28-2008, 05:59 AM
Good luck against Lleyton Roger :rocker2:

Rogieva
06-28-2008, 10:45 AM
Fed always comes to play against the top players. I expect a thrashing on Monday.

I agree. Even MonoFed beat Berdych and Flake in straights

Federerhingis
06-28-2008, 02:11 PM
:( Those loopy forehands at times:(
Today seemed a bit better.
Does anybody else feel that way?:wavey:

I do Lekha, it seems like he does not generate the same pace on the forehand. He would smack those crosscourt forehand a la Graf (I know those are sacriligious comparisons) :angel: :tape: His length also on the forehand is not as consistently deep as it used to be.

He has not need to flatten out his forehand that much but he will as the tournament progresses especially against Hewitt if he's sharp, I am sure Hewitt is quite liking this opportunity. He said it himself any little chance that Fed gives him he'l need to snatch at it. ;)

Federerhingis
06-28-2008, 02:13 PM
Good luck against Lleyton Roger :rocker2:

Hey Marat Roger. :wavey: I too think those two are the most talented. :worship:

SUKTUEN
06-28-2008, 02:31 PM
GOD Bless Roger play good match in Monday!!!!:worship:

trickcy
06-28-2008, 04:45 PM
I do Lekha, it seems like he does not generate the same pace on the forehand. He would smack those crosscourt forehand a la Graf (I know those are sacriligious comparisons) :angel: :tape: His length also on the forehand is not as consistently deep as it used to be.

He has not need to flatten out his forehand that much but he will as the tournament progresses especially against Hewitt if he's sharp, I am sure Hewitt is quite liking this opportunity. He said it himself any little chance that Fed gives him he'l need to snatch at it. ;)

Luis, WTA comparison :ras::p
I quite like the idea of him playing Hewitt. He'll need to play some good tennis, even if it's not lights out tennis, and it'll be interesting to see if he changes that forehand, and if he keeps coming to the net.

Rogieva
06-28-2008, 05:32 PM
I go on holiday on Monday for a week, so I won't be able to see any more of Rogers matches. I'm taking my mobile to Africa with me, so I can access live scores and check on Roger's results :lol: (if I get coverage :unsure:)

Marek.
06-28-2008, 06:15 PM
Mary Carillo: "Nadal makes a better transistion to grass than Federer does to clay" And her reasoning, like all the other experts, is just because Nadal pushed Fed to five.

Ever heard of a bad match up?

RogiFan88
06-28-2008, 06:17 PM
easy enough match vs. Gicquel altho broken right off but the important thing is how Rogi rights the ship after being broken... didn't look too impressive but he did enough to win and in straight sets, which is important

now for the tough week... starting w Hewitt... not happy that HE's in the 2nd week... w his come ons! and his boring fighting spirit and fancying his chances now that he's gone to the TFA side...

so let's hope Rogi is able to step it up big time -- I expect a very tough battle... nervewracking start to next week and it doesn't get any easier w the talent guys stepping it up at Wimby now that they're in Rogi's half: Ancic/Verdasco, Safin/Wawrinka, Baggy [sounding quietly confident of making the SF and beating Rogi]/Lopez

still one match at a time... no sense looking any further than R16

RogiFan88
06-28-2008, 06:24 PM
Mary Carillo: "Nadal makes a better transistion to grass than Federer does to clay" And her reasoning, like all the other experts, is just because Nadal pushed Fed to five.

Ever heard of a bad match up?

how can you transition fr grass to clay when RG is before Wimby anyway? duh... [and don't say Stuttgart/Bastad/Gstaad] and for your info, in 2004 Rogi won Halle/Wimby/Gstaad/TO on different surfaces... ;)

nobama
06-28-2008, 07:05 PM
Mary Carillo: "Nadal makes a better transistion to grass than Federer does to clay" And her reasoning, like all the other experts, is just because Nadal pushed Fed to five.

Ever heard of a bad match up?Carillo is a tool. And they keep going on ad nauseum about Nadal going to play on grass the very next week after winning RG, and how it shows how much respect he has for Wimbledon, blah, blah, blah. Excuse me? Didn't Roger do the very same thing? And isn't that even MORE commendable because of what happened to him in the RG final? Nadal went into Queens/Wimbledon with a ton of confidence and all this praise being heaped on him. Roger went in to Halle/Wimbledon with champions like Borg picking him as 3rd favorite and wondering if he might retire at the end of the year. :rolleyes:

crude oil
06-28-2008, 07:11 PM
kiefer...what a :retard:

i wonder why the guy bothered to step on the court.

crude oil
06-28-2008, 07:13 PM
Carillo is a tool. And they keep going on ad nauseum about Nadal going to play on grass the very next week after winning RG, and how it shows how much respect he has for Wimbledon, blah, blah, blah. Excuse me? Didn't Roger do the very same thing? And isn't that even MORE commendable because of what happened to him in the RG final? Nadal went into Queens/Wimbledon with a ton of confidence and all this praise being heaped on him. Roger went in to Halle/Wimbledon with champions like Borg picking him as 3rd favorite and wondering if he might retire at the end of the year. :rolleyes:

its just the recency effect.

carillo used to go ad nauseum about federer.

when nadal gets beaten during the hc season, she will change her tune.

One thing is for sure though. Nadal does make more adjustments from clay to grass than federer does but that has more to do with the extreme style of nadal on clay, and federer's natural versatility.

nobama
06-28-2008, 07:16 PM
its just the recency effect.

carillo used to go ad nauseum about federer.

when nadal gets beaten during the hc season, she will change her tune.

One thing is for sure though. Nadal does make more adjustments from clay to grass than federer does but that has more to do with the extreme style of nadal on clay, and federer's natural versatility.I think it's easy for Nadal to do because he's coming off so much confidence winning all those tournaments on clay and usually beating Roger one or more times.

crude oil
06-28-2008, 07:31 PM
I think it's easy for Nadal to do because he's coming off so much confidence winning all those tournaments on clay and usually beating Roger one or more times.


thats a credit to nadal.

Federer didn't hurt nadal's confidence either in the FO final :tape:

NYCtennisfan
06-28-2008, 08:02 PM
Mary Carillo: "Nadal makes a better transistion to grass than Federer does to clay" And her reasoning, like all the other experts, is just because Nadal pushed Fed to five.

Ever heard of a bad match up?

Federer has had better results on clay then Nadal has had on grass over the past 4 years or so although Nadal was very young 4 years ago. 3 RG RUs, 1 RG SF (de facto RU), multiple titles in Hamburg, multiple RU's up in MC, has beaten every single good clay court player at least once....

Short term memory from these guys. Kiefer hit some huge serves like he always does and the entire commentary team says, "Wow, I didn't know he could hit so big..." Wow.

Marek.
06-28-2008, 08:06 PM
:lol: Nadal broken when serving for the match. He's really trying to get off the court.

soraya
06-28-2008, 08:21 PM
What really matters is who will show and lift the throphy next sunday, the rest is just speculation.

juninhOH
06-28-2008, 08:44 PM
I'm only afraid that Roger enters Wimbledon thinking of Roland Garros, and like if is broken in his first service game he takes a let down and goes downhill from there.

Hahaha because Rafa is truly awesome this year on wimbledon. I don't see anybody defeating him before the finals, he is dominating everyone :(.

Flibbertigibbet
06-28-2008, 08:50 PM
Federer-Hewitt, Safin-Wawrinka, Gasquet-Murray, Nadal-Youzhny, potentially some very interesting fourth round encounters!

anon57
06-28-2008, 08:51 PM
Roger's been able to bounce back from dissapointing RG finals the previous two years and defeat Nadal in the finals at Wimbledon. Nadal is playing very well but if Roger's playing well enough I think he'll be able to win again this year, but it will be a be a very tough match I think. And given the way Nadal is playing I agree that it'll take one of the other players playing a very good match or Nadal dropping his level for him not to reach the final again this year, neither of which I see happening.

JediFed
06-28-2008, 08:54 PM
He's playing really well here, but he still has a tough road, through Youzhny and Murray/Gasquet.

I'd say he actually has the 5th hardest path right now, behind only Hewitt, Youzhny, Murray/Gasquet. Even Marat has an easier draw!

juninhOH
06-28-2008, 09:15 PM
but youzhny just played a 4h30 match. There is no doubt he is gonna be wasted on their next encounter =[

I could only hope for a straight win for him hahaha

Eden
06-28-2008, 09:58 PM
The OOP for Monday is already out:

Roger plays the 1st match on the Center Court at 1:00 p.m.

Rogieva
06-28-2008, 10:18 PM
I won't be here to watch it :sobbing: :crying2: :mad: :fiery: :(

Good luck Roger, I want him to win this Wimbledon more than ever!

Eden
06-28-2008, 10:35 PM
Federer-Hewitt, Safin-Wawrinka, Gasquet-Murray, Nadal-Youzhny, potentially some very interesting fourth round encounters!

Exactly. Hopefully these matches will live up to the expectations.

He's playing really well here, but he still has a tough road, through Youzhny and Murray/Gasquet.


It will surely be interesting to see if Youzhny has still anything left for a best of 5 match against Nadal. Unfortunately Misha isn't in extraordinary form lately whilst Nadal on the other hand has an excellent run at the moment. Rafa has already shown in the last years that grass is his second best surface after clay and now he is even more dangerous because he has improved his game. Add to this his selfconfidence.

It's getting more and more difficult to beat Nadal in the later rounds as he has adjusted to the surface then and found his form. You can't allow it against him to waste your chances.

I don't know who will come through in the Murray/Gasquet match.

nobama
06-28-2008, 10:59 PM
Federer has had better results on clay then Nadal has had on grass over the past 4 years or so although Nadal was very young 4 years ago. 3 RG RUs, 1 RG SF (de facto RU), multiple titles in Hamburg, multiple RU's up in MC, has beaten every single good clay court player at least once....

Short term memory from these guys. Kiefer hit some huge serves like he always does and the entire commentary team says, "Wow, I didn't know he could hit so big..." Wow.Ah but that doesn't follow the script. The script is how wonderful Nadal is, how amazing it is that he goes from winning RG directly to Queens and how that shows how much he cares about Wimbledon. Er, what about Roger, who lost badly in the RG final going straight to Halle and winning the tournament without dropping serve or loosing a set? The excuse was the competition was tougher at Queens, but three of the guys Nadal beat at Queens - Karlovic, Roddick and Djoker all crashed out of Wimbledon early. John McEnroe doesn't bother me so much, but Mary Carillo and Ted Robinson I can't listen too. Same with Chris Fowler, although I give him props the other day for going off on the top players who lost and were using the mentally tired excuse.

MrChopin
06-29-2008, 05:56 AM
Just reading over the thread and a general reply...

It's pretty sick how much the NBC crew was fawning over Nadal, but they've done the same to Roger in the past, so I shouldn't be surprised.

The grass really looks to suit Nadal: he had several forehands against Keifer that bounced up around his head, and he can run down nearly everything here, meaning it's slow enough for him to play defensive. As ridiculous as it sounds, I'm hesitant to say that clay-to-grass is not that hard of an adjustment. Clay-to-hard (fast) is probably far harder, and it may even be harder for grass-to-hard, which Nadal's results would support. The lack of consistent grass players may contribute to this as well.

I'm also not ready to proclaim Nadal as tennis angel for playing and doing well on grass. Nadal improved drastically from 2005 to 2006. He had played Wimbledon twice and suddenly went from an R3 being his best to the final. However, the rest of his slam performances improved as well, even the fastest hardcourt slams. That he was already winning clay is, I think, a big factor in a lot of minds, but compare it with Roger.

Fed was winning slams almost two years before he even made the semifinal at RG and was dominant on hard and grass. He had played RG six times before 2005 and had been past R4 only once. He was already well established on all other surfaces when he final-ed just about every clay tourney in 2006, including his first at RG. Fed's improvement on clay was more gradual than Nadal's overall improvement (which included grass), indicating that it was less natural for him on clay than Nadal on grass.

Not only was Fed seemingly less natural on clay than Nadal on grass, but Fed's results have been more consistent. Fed has more RG finals than Nadal does SW19 finals. Fed has more clay titles than Nadal does grass titles. Fed has been more consistently dominant on clay than Rafa on grass (Fed has made the finals 10 of the last 12 clay tournaments). Fed has not been pushed to five at RG in the last four years, whereas Nadal was pushed twice in winning efforts last year.

Overall, I'm more impressed by Fed's results on clay than Nadal's on grass, and I think that Fed has worked harder to improve his less-natural clay results than Nadal has to improve his more-natural grass results.

Finally, Nadal is a bad matchup for Fed and really anybody, being a far less traditional player than Fed. Whether or not Nadal beats Fed on grass, I still think that Fed's improvement on clay is more impressive than Rafa's on grass. When Rafa again pushes Fed on fast hardcourts more often than Fed pushes Rafa on clay, I'll yield that Nadal deserves more praise for changing his game. Until then, the slow grass of today doesn't merit a comparison between the two's adjustments. Cite RG '08 and Wimb '07 finals as a sign of Nadal being more "improved" on his bad surface, but Fed wiped Nadal from TMC last year. That nobody talks of it shows just how much respect people actually have for Fed's clay game, his loss being more stunning.

***

As for who wins SW19, I don't think Nadal is unbeatable. He's looked great for patches, but he's also looked beatable for patches. Keifer was in charge near the end of the first, getting farther into Rafa's serves than Rafa could do to Keifer (Nadal couldn't do much on Keifer's first serves, which failed Keifer in the tiebreak and helped lead Nadal to the first set). Keifer was able to hit with Nadal during the first, and even hit -past- him on the grass (several nice inside out fhs put Nadal on the run, and several times, Nadal shanked errors probably due to a lack of time). His touch looked fantastic today, and his movement was pretty amazing, but it's been shown that one can overpower him with the serve, and further, pressure his own. I think that Fed can do both of these. I expect Nadal to barrage Fed's backhand with his serve, so Fed will need to have a good return day and pressure Rafa, in addition to having a good serving day. Yet if Fed can do these two things, I think the title is his.

SUKTUEN
06-29-2008, 07:41 AM
GOD Please Bless Roger play a good match tomorrow!:worship:

juninhOH
06-29-2008, 02:32 PM
No doubt he is far from the dominant guy he is on Clay, even tho he is still AWESOME on grasss.

remember on Roland Garros the only guy who took him to a tiebreak was Djokovic on the semi-final.

JediFed
06-29-2008, 03:45 PM
It would be tragic if he never won a RG final.

He is tied right now with Lendl at Wimbly, and just behind Borg at the USO for the best performer to never win at a particular slam.

Interestingly enough, there is a record he will break if Federer reaches the Wimbly finals. Borg reached 11 out of 12 finals (missing only one QF at the USO). Federer has missed just one final out of 12, missing the AO this year.

Does anyone know the story behind his retirement to Stockton in the 4R?

elessar
06-29-2008, 05:36 PM
I've been away a little but I think the general summary of this wimbledon so far would be : journalists suck :D but there's nothing we can do about it unless Roger wins wimbledon and they go back to kissing his ass :worship:

Can't wait :drool:

As for the Roger on clay vs Rafa on grass, Roger's has a clear edge right now but he's older so the comparison would make more sense in a few years :shrug:

luvly1
06-29-2008, 06:09 PM
My biggest problem with the commentators during the nadal-kiefer match (only nadal match i have watched so far) is that they keep talking about amazing it is that nadal has been able to play on both clay and grass like federer hasn't been doing that for the last four years.

EternalxJourney
06-29-2008, 11:21 PM
Who gives a toss what those moronic so-called journalists say about Roger? He'll let them to choke on their own words come next Sunday. Bunch of bandwagoners, worse than MTFers.

SUKTUEN
06-30-2008, 01:05 AM
GOD Please Bless Roger play a good match to win tonight!!:worship:

ALLEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Roger!!!!!:bounce::bounce:

rofe
06-30-2008, 02:38 AM
I have watched very less of Hewitt's matches so I wanted to know - is he coming forward and volleying a lot more than usual? I think we are going to see him come into the net a lot more tomorrow against Roger especially on the big points.

RogiFan88
06-30-2008, 03:20 AM
R16 time for Rogi to step it up vs. the pesky Hewitt.

GO, ROGI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allure
06-30-2008, 04:37 AM
Good luck to Roger. Hewitt is a tough opponent. Anything less than 80% from Roger will be dangerous.

trickcy
06-30-2008, 06:28 AM
I have watched very less of Hewitt's matches so I wanted to know - is he coming forward and volleying a lot more than usual? I think we are going to see him come into the net a lot more tomorrow against Roger especially on the big points.

He did come to the net to finish off points, but there were many instances when he could've come to the forecourt and didn't.

Against Haase, he came in 41 times, winning 29 of those points. (71%)
Against Montanes, he won 18 points out of 29 approaches (62%)
Against Bolelli, he won 12 out of 13 points at the net (92%)

trickcy
06-30-2008, 06:36 AM
If Roger wins this match, he secures the #1 ranking until after Wimbledon no matter what, right?

Puschkin
06-30-2008, 07:35 AM
I don't know who will come through in the Murray/Gasquet match.
:topic: I do. :p

didadida
06-30-2008, 08:33 AM
i didnt see Jose in any of Roger's matches,anyone have any info :rolleyes:

glycina
06-30-2008, 08:39 AM
IN the thread <grass court photo>, somebody says that Jose went back to
USA after the loss of Ginepri.

didadida
06-30-2008, 09:11 AM
IN the thread <grass court photo>, somebody says that Jose went back to
USA after the loss of Ginepri.

is it true? if it is true why he didnt stay with Roger?:confused:

didadida
06-30-2008, 12:35 PM
he is making many errors more than the last matches

didadida
06-30-2008, 12:39 PM
Hewitt is playing 90% and more of his shots to the Federer bh side

didadida
06-30-2008, 12:45 PM
tie break

anon57
06-30-2008, 12:48 PM
I don't think Roger is making that many more errors than his previous match:shrug:, he is playing too passively imo though, Hewitt is the one who is dictating the rally's more and he's hitting a lot of balls at Fed's backhand which Fed is just hitting back at Hewitt.
Edit: And Federer is rellying on his serve way too much for my liking

didadida
06-30-2008, 12:56 PM
he waste a set point

anon57
06-30-2008, 12:56 PM
2 SP's blown including one on his own serve nice going Roger
Edit: There goes #3

didadida
06-30-2008, 12:58 PM
another set point

didadida
06-30-2008, 12:59 PM
finally the first set

Mrs. B
06-30-2008, 12:59 PM
got the tb. whoaah.

COMMONNN, Roger! :bounce:

didadida
06-30-2008, 01:00 PM
hope he will raise his level in the 2nd set

Mrs. B
06-30-2008, 01:00 PM
weird to see Rochey and being on Hewitt's side. :lol:

juninhOH
06-30-2008, 01:00 PM
well in my opinion roger is playing VERY well.

I actually am not worried at all with the result of the match if he keeps playing like this.

Even if he lost the 1st set (because of the tiebreak), he is playing so well that he would eventually turn things over.

didadida
06-30-2008, 01:03 PM
weird to see Rochey and being on Hewitt's side. :lol:

:rolls:

Another RogFan
06-30-2008, 01:05 PM
Yees!!!

didadida
06-30-2008, 01:06 PM
a break for Roger

Another RogFan
06-30-2008, 01:06 PM
He broke I mean!

Another RogFan
06-30-2008, 01:07 PM
Can I repeat: yees!!!

Another RogFan
06-30-2008, 01:08 PM
Game to love!

anon57
06-30-2008, 01:08 PM
well in my opinion roger is playing VERY well.

I actually am not worried at all with the result of the match if he keeps playing like this.

Even if he lost the 1st set (because of the tiebreak), he is playing so well that he would eventually turn things over.
I don't think he's playing really well but he's not playing badly except for some sloppy points in the tiebreak, I do think he's playing a bit too passively and rellying on his serve too much, it'll probably be enough for this match but I would still like to see him going for his shots a bit more instead of just reacting to what his opponent is doing.

yanchr
06-30-2008, 01:09 PM
well in my opinion roger is playing VERY well.

I actually am not worried at all with the result of the match if he keeps playing like this.

Even if he lost the 1st set (because of the tiebreak), he is playing so well that he would eventually turn things over.
Are you serious?

In the 1st set, he was playing like total crap. The only thing that was still working is his serve.

yanchr
06-30-2008, 01:10 PM
He was way too passive in the 1st set, and his baseline game was going yo-yo.

Now seems like he is lifting his game a bit.

didadida
06-30-2008, 01:10 PM
another break

Another RogFan
06-30-2008, 01:11 PM
Another break!
Wat's going on?

Another RogFan
06-30-2008, 01:14 PM
It is amazing - visibly there is no change in Fed game but everything look different at the same time.

oneandonlyhsn
06-30-2008, 01:14 PM
Are you serious?

In the 1st set, he was playing like total crap. The only thing that was still working is his serve.

Ditto, I thought that was one of the worst performances from Fed on grass

didadida
06-30-2008, 01:21 PM
but he is playing better in the 2nd set

Dirk
06-30-2008, 01:23 PM
Roger is amazing here now for the most part. Hewitt was playing very well in the first but Roger just didn't seem aggressive enough at times and couldn't get some shots working but that is no longer an issue.

glycina
06-30-2008, 01:24 PM
well in my opinion roger is playing VERY well.

I actually am not worried at all with the result of the match if he keeps playing like this.

Even if he lost the 1st set (because of the tiebreak), he is playing so well that he would eventually turn things over.

Your comment was proved to be right.:worship:
From the 2nd set, I began to breathe easily.

didadida
06-30-2008, 01:26 PM
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
2nd set 6-2

Dirk
06-30-2008, 01:27 PM
Roger is typically getting better and better as the match goes on which is a huge indicator that all is well with Ninja.

Mrs. B
06-30-2008, 01:31 PM
Roger better not be giving this 3rd set to Lleyton.

Mrs. B
06-30-2008, 01:37 PM
broke! :banana:

glycina
06-30-2008, 01:37 PM
Roger better not be giving this 3rd set to Lleyton.

Yes!
I don't want to remember 05USO semifinal.:devil:

Another RogFan
06-30-2008, 01:37 PM
Break!!! 2-1

Mrs. B
06-30-2008, 01:44 PM
bps saved. 3-1

HOPP!!!

soraya
06-30-2008, 01:47 PM
bps saved. 3-1

HOPP!!!

:wavey:
annoyed by pmac.:mad:

Mrs. B
06-30-2008, 01:55 PM
cmon, Roger! one more game...

Mrs. B
06-30-2008, 01:57 PM
:wavey:
annoyed by pmac.:mad:

Hey, soraya! how are you? :hug:

i am at work and watching it on Swiss French tv and not wearing my headphones so i don't hear much. :lol:

Mrs. B
06-30-2008, 02:00 PM
:banana: Well done, Roger!

Coffee time!

soraya
06-30-2008, 02:02 PM
Hey, soraya! how are you? :hug:

i am at work and watching it on Swiss French tv and not wearing my headphones so i don't hear much. :lol:

Hi Eva,:hug:

He did it!
How is life? All is well, enjoying my vacation. Tired of hearing about Nadal and this Wimby.

luzkoz
06-30-2008, 02:04 PM
Roger :D.

didadida
06-30-2008, 02:06 PM
Tired of hearing about Nadal and this Wimby
me too :o

Dirk
06-30-2008, 02:08 PM
Hi Eva,:hug:

Hi did it!
How is life? All is well, enjoying my vacation. Tired of hearing about Nadal and this Wimby.

You are not the only one. Everyone is acting like Fed is 30 or something. Roger played a great matched for the most part after the first set. Hewitt would have given every player left trouble especially the new favorite Nadal. :rolleyes:

Roger is getting more and more Ninja like in each match, his movement really got better in the 2nd and 3rd sets. Roger will be ready when he makes the final. Nadal is only special on grass when opponents play clay court tennis and I don't think Roger will be doing that again.

soraya
06-30-2008, 02:08 PM
me too :o
We will need Suk's prayers till the end.:)

didadida
06-30-2008, 02:09 PM
We will need Suk's prayers till the end.:)

Allez Suki :devil: :lol:

ExpectedWinner
06-30-2008, 02:13 PM
Dirk, are you really that impressed?

You can't help but think that passive returns, fhs with nothing on them (not to mention bhs), volleys straight to the hands of you know who, erratic errors will be severely punished on Sunday(should both get there).

oneandonlyhsn
06-30-2008, 02:13 PM
:woohoo: Good match for Roger after the 1st set. I'm a little worried about him playing Ancic/Verdasco

rofe
06-30-2008, 02:19 PM
Fed was serving well but what the hell happened to his cc forehand? That is his bread and butter shot and he is dumping it into the net regularly. When he does manage to get it across, it has no penetration.

I hope he sorts that out in the QF. :(

yanchr
06-30-2008, 02:19 PM
Dirk, are you really that impressed?

You can't help but think that passive returns, fhs with nothing on them, volleys straight to the hands of you know who, erratic errors will be severely panished on Sunday(should both get there).
huh, I'm annoyed at myself having to think about Nadal when he is not playing him yet, but I'm completely with you here...

I'm not sure which form he will bring to the final. If it's sth like today, I'm not sure his serve will save him again.

juninhOH
06-30-2008, 02:21 PM
well apparently for some people Federer needs to win 60 61 60 if he wants people to think he played well.

He won in straight sets without getting broke against one of the good grass players out there, even tho Hewitt is not what he once was.

Federer played safe, didn't risk too much. I'd say he was passive IF he was playing a guy who was going for winners all the time, what definitely wasn't the case.

Hewitt never played any huge forehand or backhand in today's match, so Federer was controlling the game very well, putting Hewitt on the race, using slices, constructing the points. When he needed to he accelerated the game and Hewitt gave him the point.

That was a safe and clear victory against a worthy opponent.

Dirk
06-30-2008, 02:34 PM
Dirk, are you really that impressed?

You can't help but think that passive returns, fhs with nothing on them (not to mention bhs), volleys straight to the hands of you know who, erratic errors will be severely punished on Sunday(should both get there).

He has things to work on for sure and yes he made too many errors for my liking and I've been harping on his passive 2nd serve returns for a long time but he is imploying aggression in this match sooner rather than later. I'm just looking for signs that he won't be playing a clay court match like last year and so far I am quite happy with what I see. I hope he will be great for the final but we won't know until we get there.

I'm a little sick of this talk that Nadal is super human on this surface. I hope that gets dispelled very soon.

yanchr
06-30-2008, 02:36 PM
well apparently for some people Federer needs to win 60 61 60 if he wants people to think he played well.
He doesn't even have to win for me to think that he plays well. I thought he played quite well against Gonzo in last year TMC, he played OK against Murray in Dubai, not to mention the matches he lost in 2005.

There is a difference between that he is not playing well, and he is playing enough to win. Today in my opinion his performance falls in the former category.

He was serving great and playing better on big points. But other than that, I really didn't see much that he did well today, even for patches. It's enough against Hewitt today but I'm not sure if it's enough against others.

Of course I'm not judging anything based on today's performance. I'm simply pointing out that he has to lift his game in the next rounds. His level today won't get him through the rest of the tournament.

soraya
06-30-2008, 02:36 PM
You are not the only one. Everyone is acting like Fed is 30 or something. Roger played a great matched for the most part after the first set. Hewitt would have given every player left trouble especially the new favorite Nadal. :rolleyes:

Roger is getting more and more Ninja like in each match, his movement really got better in the 2nd and 3rd sets. Roger will be ready when he makes the final. Nadal is only special on grass when opponents play clay court tennis and I don't think Roger will be doing that again.

Agree, I did not see the first set until Hewitt served for the tie. It was obvious he came with the plan of directing every shot to Fed's backhand, I think overall he played well. On another note, must been awkward for Mirka sitting in the same box with Tony.

ExpectedWinner
06-30-2008, 02:37 PM
well apparently for some people Federer needs to win 60 61 60 if he wants people to think he played well.



It has nothing to do with the scores. It's easy to dismiss the shortcomings in his game and say "he's still winning...." Then the semi against Djoker and the final against Nadal come.... and all these problems are getting magnified. Well, I hope that hs fh and angled volleys will make appearance in the final, and he will reduce the number of his erratic, dumb mistakes.

Dirk
06-30-2008, 02:38 PM
well apparently for some people Federer needs to win 60 61 60 if he wants people to think he played well.

He won in straight sets without getting broke against one of the good grass players out there, even tho Hewitt is not what he once was.

Federer played safe, didn't risk too much. I'd say he was passive IF he was playing a guy who was going for winners all the time, what definitely wasn't the case.

Hewitt never played any huge forehand or backhand in today's match, so Federer was controlling the game very well, putting Hewitt on the race, using slices, constructing the points. When he needed to he accelerated the game and Hewitt gave him the point.

That was a safe and clear victory against a worthy opponent.


I tend to agree with this. Federer picked his moments to go for the attack. He is not being passive because he is not confident. It was funny, they said (ESPN) Roger's BH was off and he was slicing it a lot then a few points later Roger rips a BH down the line and they said he has been working on that shot beautifully. :lol:

People are acting like Nadal will be this god who won't make any mistakes or be nervous (when the past has shown he is human too) and Roger is doomed if he plays just above his average level. I think his above average level will be good enough for the most part if he attacks at some point and wisely finishes off points.

Dirk
06-30-2008, 02:41 PM
It has nothing to do with the scores. It's easy to dismiss the shortcomings in his game and say "he's still winning...." Then the semi against Djoker and the final agains Nadal come.... and all these problems are getting magnified. Well, I hope that hs fh and angled volleys will make appearance in the final, and he will reduce the number of his erratic, dumb mistakes.


We all hope that but I know the Roger has played tight matches with Hewitt and still gets nervous with him. I do think he is getting better as each match goes on even if it is just a little bit. I just want Roger healthy to have the chance to win, he will only lose this baby if he plays passive against Nadal too much. I just don't see that this year. Federer will keep this baby.

maskedmuffin
06-30-2008, 02:43 PM
4 down, 3 to go:cool: moving right along:cool:

nobama
06-30-2008, 02:58 PM
meanwhile....Roger keeps winning in straights....even though people keep saying he's playing like crap, if he doesn't up his level it won't be enough for the next round, blah, blah blah.

juninhOH
06-30-2008, 03:09 PM
its a pity that Youzhny played a 4h30 match friday, damn!!!

SUKTUEN
06-30-2008, 03:12 PM
Allez Suki :devil: :lol:

Thankyou my LORD Bless Roger Win tonight!!

Hallelujah!!!!!!!!:worship::worship::bounce:

trickcy
06-30-2008, 04:20 PM
Into the quarters. :D

Mario up next

Allez Roger!

JediFed
06-30-2008, 05:23 PM
Defended his number one!

Beat the only other man in the draw who is a Wimbly champion in straights. I'll take it. :D

Next up Ancic in the Quarters and likely Baghdatis in the SF.

nobama
06-30-2008, 05:29 PM
Defended his number one!

Beat the only other man in the draw who is a Wimbly champion in straights. I'll take it. :D

Next up Ancic in the Quarters and likely Baghdatis in the SF.Baggy is out. Did Ancic lose too?

anon57
06-30-2008, 05:30 PM
Defended his number one!

Beat the only other man in the draw who is a Wimbly champion in straights. I'll take it. :D

Next up Ancic in the Quarters and likely Baghdatis in the SF.
:secret: Baghdatis lost to Lopez, so I doubt Federer will be playing him in the SF:p
Ancic defeated Verdasco 13-11 in the fifth

NYCtennisfan
06-30-2008, 05:47 PM
Ranier has made the QF's with a reasonable chance at the SF's. :haha: Nice choke job by Roddick to mess up the easiest path to the SF's ever.

NYCtennisfan
06-30-2008, 05:48 PM
Thoughts about the Hewitt match:

1. Came out a bit tentative with the FH. He was slicing and slicing hoping for short balls and errors from Hewitt, but Hewitt played well. Federer could've been more aggressive, but he was content to serve well and let his game come to him. I agree with Dirk in that Fed is always a bit nervous in the early going agaisnt Hewitt due to their history.

2. His FH worked well after the first set. His off-Fh was very good, but his CC FH and Dtl FH were missing. He needs both of these to be on come Sunday (if he gets there).

3. His serve was good as he was hitting his spots. His second serve to the Ad side featured a lot of high kickers that set up some easy points.

4. Movement was solid.

5. Return of serve was weak. Slice return to the Hewitt Bh is a good play because Hewitt won't attack with it like Djoko or Nalbandian, but he missed a lot easy chips as well. He can't do that from here on out.

6. Volleying was reasonable, but he doesn't look comfortable up there for whatever reason. He looks a bit lackadaisical up there.

7. Magical passing shots that used to come with ease for him don't come by as often this year. He had a lot of chances to pass Hewitt but couldn't get it done. You'll see more and more players attack his BH and come to net as the year goes on.

All in all, not too bad. He's got a great shot at the finals again, but will have to step it up against Nadal who looks to have a free pass into the finals.

ExpectedWinner
06-30-2008, 05:50 PM
Per today's results, Nadal is in the final. :shrug:

tmsh
06-30-2008, 05:54 PM
Newcomer here, big Fed 'n Rafa fan. :wavey:

Saw Fed's match just now, a bit sloppy in the 1st set but served like a god in the 2nd & 3rd.

Yes, I think he does need to up his game against tougher opponents, but as others mentioned, what's important is he's doing enough (and often a bit more) to take care of whoever's across the net.

Anyway, ALLEZ FED (was this his 62nd? 63rd straight win on grass?), now onto a full day's rest and be in tip-top shape on Wednesday!

JediFed
06-30-2008, 05:56 PM
Yeah, my bad.

Baghdatis is out, and Ancic just squeaked through. Time to turn another H2H around. :D

luzkoz
06-30-2008, 06:00 PM
Yeah, my bad.

Baghdatis is out, and Ancic just squeaked through. Time to turn another H2H around. :D

Federer leads the H2H against Ancic 5:1 :confused:

NYCtennisfan
06-30-2008, 06:01 PM
Per today's results, Nadal is in the final. :shrug:

Pretty much. Ranier vs. Clement probably in the other QF in the bottom half. Wow.

NYCtennisfan
06-30-2008, 06:25 PM
:lol: Nadal vs. Clement--6-3, 6-1, 6-2
Nadal vs. Rainer 6-1, 6-0, 6-1

nobama
06-30-2008, 06:33 PM
Gotta get through most likely Gasquet first, right?

trickcy
06-30-2008, 06:35 PM
Newcomer here, big Fed 'n Rafa fan. :wavey:

Saw Fed's match just now, a bit sloppy in the 1st set but served like a god in the 2nd & 3rd.

Yes, I think he does need to up his game against tougher opponents, but as others mentioned, what's important is he's doing enough (and often a bit more) to take care of whoever's across the net.

Anyway, ALLEZ FED (was this his 62nd? 63rd straight win on grass?), now onto a full day's rest and be in tip-top shape on Wednesday!

Welcome:wavey:
63rd straight win, I believe:)

I can't believe the other half:rolleyes:
Roger's return of serve still needs work. His serve was pretty good, and solid. He could potentially play Lopez, right? Facing one lefty before the finals might be a help, because Nadal is almost a lock for the finals now.:rolleyes:

NYCtennisfan
06-30-2008, 06:43 PM
Gasquet putting on a clinic against Murray.

tmsh
06-30-2008, 06:50 PM
Welcome:wavey:
63rd straight win, I believe:)

I can't believe the other half:rolleyes:
Roger's return of serve still needs work. His serve was pretty good, and solid. He could potentially play Lopez, right? Facing one lefty before the finals might be a help, because Nadal is almost a lock for the finals now.:rolleyes:

Thanks ;)

Yeah, after Ancic (please don't let this jinx him), it's either Feli or Safin. Am more a Safin fan, but you make a good point of having a lefty as pre-final practice before facing the ultimate super-lefty aka Rafa (again, not jinxing, just hoping) :)

Nadal is about 90% lock-in for finals, with the upper quarter of that half completely 'open' now. So for that I'm already half-happy. When (IF) Fed & Rafa both get to the finals, I'd be fully-happy.

trickcy
06-30-2008, 06:51 PM
NYCTennisFan :wavey:

Do you think there's a cause for concern if Safin were to make the semis? He still has to win against Stan and then Lopez, I know, but how does his game look?

JediFed
06-30-2008, 07:05 PM
Just got broken for the set. This is gonna be a 5 setter against Wawa.

JediFed
06-30-2008, 07:22 PM
C'mon Wawa!

JediFed
06-30-2008, 07:24 PM
Damn, Safin breaks. :(

nobama
06-30-2008, 08:36 PM
Even though it was a 5 setter I think Murray has a better shot at Nadal than Gasquet would have. Shame for Gasquet though, coming so close to winning in straights and then losing in 5. I guess he knows how Roddick felt last year. :sad:

NYCtennisfan
06-30-2008, 09:01 PM
Too bad for Gasquet...he was playing some of the best tennis I've seen this year in the first 2.5 sets.

Murray will have to win the first set to have any shot at beating Nadal. The SF in the bottom half will be a practice match for the winner of Nadal/Murray, especially if it is Nadal.

Greenday
06-30-2008, 09:34 PM
Too bad for gasquet....but for watever reason i think murray has a better shot at nadal then gasquet....

nobama
06-30-2008, 10:37 PM
Too bad for Gasquet...he was playing some of the best tennis I've seen this year in the first 2.5 sets.

Murray will have to win the first set to have any shot at beating Nadal. The SF in the bottom half will be a practice match for the winner of Nadal/Murray, especially if it is Nadal.All I can hope for is coming of this win and with the crowd behind him he is fired up. I can't see him folding unless Nadal is really putting a beatdown on him. I didn't see the match today...was it Gasquet falling apart or Murray playing better or both?

rofe
06-30-2008, 11:57 PM
All I can hope for is coming of this win and with the crowd behind him he is fired up. I can't see him folding unless Nadal is really putting a beatdown on him. I didn't see the match today...was it Gasquet falling apart or Murray playing better or both?

I didn't see the match either but from the posts I saw, Andy raised his game significantly to break back Gasquet and take the 3rd set in the TB. He then kept that level while Gasquet slipped a few levels in the 4th and raised it again in the 5th though that wasn't enough to deal with the crowd and the level at which Andy was playing.

JediFed
07-01-2008, 12:20 AM
From what I saw, Murray finally played the way we know he is capable against someone other then Roger.

NYCtennisfan
07-01-2008, 01:50 AM
Murray started playing better and Gasquet didn't have free reign to do whatever he wanted. Then, as the match got tighter, Gasquet's FH went away when it had been working well.

There were some really good exchanges in this match.

Marek.
07-01-2008, 02:10 AM
Fed did what he had to do, and that's all that matters.

He could play a fantastic match one round and it wouldn't be any indication of how he plays in the next. I still have faith that he'll pull this title out.

yanchr
07-01-2008, 02:24 AM
Even though it was a 5 setter I think Murray has a better shot at Nadal than Gasquet would have.
I agree, but I would still be shocked if Murray manages to pull out a win...

I watched two sets from Nadal and he was playing very well. I thought he was attacking more than Roger was.

rofe
07-01-2008, 03:03 AM
I agree, but I would still be shocked if Murray manages to pull out a win...

I watched two sets from Nadal and he was playing very well. I thought he was attacking more than Roger was.

If we take into account that this was a 4th round match then Roger's average play makes more sense doesn't it? ;)

yanchr
07-01-2008, 04:07 AM
If we take into account that this was a 4th round match then Roger's average play makes more sense doesn't it? ;)
I understand the two-day break could take his rhythm away a bit, and his being nervous wouldn’t help. But I don’t buy that he was playing just enough to win. I just didn’t like what I saw. Despite that there are still two matches to go, I see Roger in the final. So you know seeing how Nadal was playing I automatically thought of Roger…couldn’t help :p

But I might just take it easy here and see how he will do in the next matches.

oneandonlyhsn
07-01-2008, 04:38 AM
I understand the two-day break could take his rhythm away a bit, and his being nervous wouldn’t help. But I don’t buy that he was playing just enough to win. I just didn’t like what I saw. Despite that there are still two matches to go, I see Roger in the final. So you know seeing how Nadal was playing I automatically thought of Roger…couldn’t help :p

But I might just take it easy here and see how he will do in the next matches.

Ditto, all this talk of him playing enough to win is not something I look at. I look at how well he plays at important points and I have to say that Nadal looks better out there. Roger is not flattening out his shots, esp his FH, his volleying is also very average. That is why I really want him to play Safin in the SF (has to get through Ancic who is looking more and more like a man on a mission). Atleast it will force him to bring his A game, and if he were to lose I'd rather he lost to Safin.

soraya
07-01-2008, 06:54 AM
I didn't see the match either but from the posts I saw, Andy raised his game significantly to break back Gasquet and take the 3rd set in the TB. He then kept that level while Gasquet slipped a few levels in the 4th and raised it again in the 5th though that wasn't enough to deal with the crowd and the level at which Andy was playing.

I saw the highlights and Murray produced some amazing shots, hope he can maintain the same conviction against Rafa.

SUKTUEN
07-01-2008, 09:21 AM
GOD PLEASE Bless Roger play a good match tomorrow!!!

Allezzzzzzzzzzzzz Roger!!!!:worship::bounce::bounce:

nobama
07-01-2008, 11:31 AM
I understand the two-day break could take his rhythm away a bit, and his being nervous wouldn’t help. But I don’t buy that he was playing just enough to win. I just didn’t like what I saw. Despite that there are still two matches to go, I see Roger in the final. So you know seeing how Nadal was playing I automatically thought of Roger…couldn’t help :p

But I might just take it easy here and see how he will do in the next matches.Why not? It's not like we haven't seen that from Roger before. He stepped it up in the 2nd set and then was a bit too much on cruse control in the 3rd knowing there was no way Lleyton was going to take him out. One can say Roger hasn't faced a tough opponent yet to know what his form is really like, but you could say that about Nadal too. The one semi-tough opponent he faced (Gulbis) took a set off him. Youhzny was completely useless, probably spent because of playing two 5 setters in a row.
Murray will be Nadal's first real test.

nobama
07-01-2008, 11:34 AM
I agree, but I would still be shocked if Murray manages to pull out a win...

I watched two sets from Nadal and he was playing very well. I thought he was attacking more than Roger was.Which match are you talking about? Youhzny? Of course he'd look good the way Youhzny was (or more like wasn't) playing. :lol: I didn't see the Murray match but have heard that for the most part he played well.

yanchr
07-01-2008, 12:12 PM
Why not? It's not like we haven't seen that from Roger before. He stepped it up in the 2nd set and then was a bit too much on cruse control in the 3rd knowing there was no way Lleyton was going to take him out. One can say Roger hasn't faced a tough opponent yet to know what his form is really like, but you could say that about Nadal too. The one semi-tough opponent he faced (Gulbis) took a set off him. Youhzny was completely useless, probably spent because of playing two 5 setters in a row.
Murray will be Nadal's first real test.
First and third round, yes, but I don't believe he went into this match against Hewitt with a mindset of playing just enough to win. The first set really could go either way. He was supposed to lift his level at 5:4, 6:5 to secure the set instead of going into a tb to try his luck if he was just playing enough to win, but he didn't, and almost choked away. He did play better in the 2nd and 3rd set after loosening up a bit.

Murray might well be another spent force, like Youzhny...

Minnie
07-01-2008, 12:23 PM
Something odd happened to me while I was watching that Jock Boy match ... I switched sides and ended up cheering loudly for him :o He took full advantage of Gasquet's inability to serve out the match at 5-4 in the 3rd and some of his shots were :eek: It was like a Davis Cup atmosphere out there and I felt sorry for the Frenchman having to contend with it all - not to mention the fading light. But Murray fully deserved his victory and if (IF!) he can keep that level up, he CAN beat Nadal ... but that is NOT to say he will. I've purposely not watched any of Nadal's matches because I can't stand the fawning over him by some of the BBC commentators so have no idea how he's playing ... nearer the truth is I probably don't want to know!

The one thing I'm hoping for above all others is that Roger does get his 6th Wimbledon ... not because that's what I want (or any of his fans/supporters) but so that the media/commentators can end up with egg on their face. Fortunately that's already partly happened to Borg who put Djoker as 2nd favourite over Roger!

nobama
07-01-2008, 12:51 PM
First and third round, yes, but I don't believe he went into this match against Hewitt with a mindset of playing just enough to win. The first set really could go either way. He was supposed to lift his level at 5:4, 6:5 to secure the set instead of going into a tb to try his luck if he was just playing enough to win, but he didn't, and almost choked away. He did play better in the 2nd and 3rd set after loosening up a bit.

Murray might well be another spent force, like Youzhny...I never said Roger went into the match that way. I'm sure he didn't play as well in the 1st set as he would have wanted to, but we saw what happened in the 2nd and after that I think he knew Hewitt wasn't beating him so 3rd set was cruise control (maybe too much so).

As far as Murray he's had a day off to rest. Why should he be a spent force? These guys are athletes, one 5 set match shouldn't wipe them out.

oneandonlyhsn
07-01-2008, 12:53 PM
First and third round, yes, but I don't believe he went into this match against Hewitt with a mindset of playing just enough to win. The first set really could go either way. He was supposed to lift his level at 5:4, 6:5 to secure the set instead of going into a tb to try his luck if he was just playing enough to win, but he didn't, and almost choked away. He did play better in the 2nd and 3rd set after loosening up a bit.

Murray might well be another spent force, like Youzhny...

I agree with you, having watched Roger play Hewitt on so many occassions, Rocky doesnt really have anything to hurt him with. One has to wonder why Roger did not try and flatten out his shots after the 1st set. I can understand during the 1st set that it was tight and that he did not want to make any errors but it should not have been an issue in the 2nd set. My biggest concern is that he will be forced to flatten out his shots once he plays Safin or Nadal and not having done that in the previous matches the errors that we will be seeing will be astronomical.

Anyway, I just hope he can lift his game, because this Wimbledon has been all about playing with conviction from Murray,Safin and Ancic, 2 very good opponents for Roger to face if he were to get to the final.