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Roland Garros 2008 Final: (1) Roger Federer vs (2) Rafael Nadal

prima donna
06-06-2008, 05:34 PM
Please boycott the other thread as it was prematurely initiated while the match against Monfils was still in progress.

Action Jackson
06-06-2008, 05:36 PM
Nadal plays poorly and will win.

I want to be proven wrong.

dylan24
06-06-2008, 05:36 PM
bad poll w/out set choices

dylan24
06-06-2008, 05:38 PM
a proper poll
w/ set choices
and public disclosure

dylan24
06-06-2008, 05:39 PM
nadal to give fed a beatdown in 3
oink oink
prove me wrong swiss muppet

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 05:39 PM
Does sets better , Nadal in straights for me realistically 6-4 6-2 7-6
Nadal is playign the best I've seen him ever on clay
His confidence couldn't be any better
He is totally fresh and healthy

And Roger isn't playing his best I've seen him playing much better and RG and he even though lost

Shirogane
06-06-2008, 05:39 PM
Nadal in four

Rafalover15
06-06-2008, 05:40 PM
Nadal to win the way fed flutted today shows me Nadal is sooo going to win

Action Jackson
06-06-2008, 05:41 PM
As usual this match will be a stinker as they are at RG.

Federer will bring out the pink dress. Nadal will play an average match and win in 4.

Hope Federer proves me wrong.

bokehlicious
06-06-2008, 05:42 PM
Nadal in straights or in 4 if he plays really badly.

adee-gee
06-06-2008, 05:43 PM
As long as Rafa doesn't choke, he'll win comfortably. Federer will do well to take a set given how they've been playing.

bluefork
06-06-2008, 05:45 PM
Based on each of their performances so far, Nadal should take it in three. My only hope is that Federer, coming into the final as more of an underdog than ever, will feel less pressure and play better than he did today. Otherwise it could be really ugly.

Purple Rainbow
06-06-2008, 05:45 PM
Nadal is all set to win this match. Easily I'm afraid.
If Federer does somehow manage to squeeze out a win, I'd be very, very, very happy.

rofe
06-06-2008, 05:45 PM
Fed defended his points from last year. Not much to expect beyond that. I will be happy if Fed takes a set.

r2473
06-06-2008, 05:45 PM
Fed is planning on switching to a 2-handed backhand on Sunday.

Therefore, he will win in 3 easy sets ;)

victory1
06-06-2008, 05:46 PM
It pains me to say; Nadal in 3 easy sets!!!:o

GuiroNl
06-06-2008, 05:46 PM
Nadal in 3

anon57
06-06-2008, 05:47 PM
Nadal wins probably in straights sets, Federer would do well to get a set

Commander Data
06-06-2008, 05:48 PM
I have seen nothing that suggests Ied can win this Sunday. Nadal in 4


BTW: I still hope JesusFed shows up and takes that damn RG Title ;)

FedFan_2007
06-06-2008, 05:49 PM
No pressure on Federer in this match. He just might pull it out, no?

Tom Paulman
06-06-2008, 05:50 PM
:zzz:

HarryMan
06-06-2008, 05:51 PM
Federer should win this one this time, hope he nails the final coffin on Nadal...

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 05:52 PM
If Federer gets his backhand and dropshots working, he'll definitely have a large chance of winning.

scoobs
06-06-2008, 05:52 PM
Rafa in 3. 4 at worst.

Prove me wrong Roger. Please.

Please.

hra87
06-06-2008, 05:56 PM
Roger will be able to maintain GodMode for 1/2 a set. If it's during the second half of the first set, he'll take a set. If not, in straights.

morningglory
06-06-2008, 05:57 PM
Nadull

Gnomey
06-06-2008, 05:57 PM
Different day, different form, different opponent.
I'm going with my heart and holding on to that bit of hope. ;)

A_Skywalker
06-06-2008, 05:58 PM
Nadal in 4 like always

BigJohn
06-06-2008, 06:00 PM
Not a rational vote, but Federer to win.

I don't care how many sets, just win the damn thing.

HeiwaDream
06-06-2008, 06:01 PM
Rafa.

twisturhead
06-06-2008, 06:02 PM
5 sets please

judeluo
06-06-2008, 06:02 PM
With all my best wishes for Rogi, I voted for Rafa...

Fedex
06-06-2008, 06:03 PM
Nadal in three.

I hope Federer proves me wrong.

ChinoRios4Ever
06-06-2008, 06:04 PM
R. Nadal in 3

Warrior
06-06-2008, 06:05 PM
I wonder what was Bud Collins prediction?

Apemant
06-06-2008, 06:05 PM
Prediction: I won't be posting anything for like 10 days, till I get over it. :devil:

Adler
06-06-2008, 06:07 PM
Roger... what can I say to you, Roger?

You'll probably lose that match, maybe even is straights like no before. You're in worse shape than last year and the year before, while your opponent is flying like a butterfly through the draw. You probably won't be able to deal with the topspin with your non-clay backhand. Slices don't work well on Chatrier court also. You can't play consistently enough to win 3 sets against Nadal.

But...

This is a game of tennis. The one who wins everything on serve and manages to break opponent's serve or at least wins a point on opponent's serve in TB wins the thing (that's the maximum idealistic point of view, of course). Your serve is quite stable and variable. You can try to deceive Rafa with your tactic ideas and take advantage over the periods of his worse game (especially at the beginning of the match)

I don't support particular players often no matter what they play, but here I always make exceptions, like in USO 05 final, when I really wanted you to lose

You've got the skills

Do it

Bilbo
06-06-2008, 06:08 PM
R. Nadal in 3

should be a quickie and one-sided final

Clay Death
06-06-2008, 06:09 PM
Nadal in 4 like always


affirmative. that is the most likely outcome. Nadal may have to wear him down a little.

dont be surprised if the Clay Monster takes it in 3 this time. that too is a possibility. He is not going to be denied on sunday no matter what anyway.

Fed served at 71% today. he can keep players off balanced with his serve. he moves it around the box quite well. He will need to serve even bigger than that just to win a set.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
06-06-2008, 06:09 PM
I don't see Nadal will lose.

LinkMage
06-06-2008, 06:10 PM
Nadal will demolish Fed in straights.

Chiseller
06-06-2008, 06:10 PM
Nadal in 4 or Fed in 5 (:bolt:)

chris whiteside
06-06-2008, 06:12 PM
I would love Roger to complete the set of career Slams but on current form it really is difficult to see how he can beat Nadal on Sunday. If anything, Nadal is playing even better than last year.

maxxo
06-06-2008, 06:14 PM
it would really be a miracle if federer wins this

alfonsojose
06-06-2008, 06:17 PM
Rafa easily in three :zzz: Go Cuevas/Horna :rocker2: and Dinara :D

Adler
06-06-2008, 06:19 PM
Can't those guys just cut a deal that one of them will tank here so the other can win the elusive GS crown, and the opposite situation will happen at Wimbledon?

Allez
06-06-2008, 06:19 PM
Look for Nadal to score his most comprehensive win over Federer yet. He wins in 3 sets....something like 6-2, 6-1, 6-2. Federer has had a less than convincing build up to the finals this year. It's over.

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-06-2008, 06:23 PM
RAFA :cool:http://www.tayob.com/Smiles/pray/36_3_16.gif (http://www.tayob.com/vb)

maxxo
06-06-2008, 06:27 PM
Can't those guys just cut a deal that one of them will tank here so the other can win the elusive GS crown, and the opposite situation will happen at Wimbledon?


lol

i was just thinking that this is the only way fed can win here.

Adler
06-06-2008, 06:29 PM
God bless you Nadal ..
He doesn't need any blessings to win it

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-06-2008, 06:29 PM
God bless you Nadal ..

Monteque
06-06-2008, 06:31 PM
My heart goes to Fed. My healthy brain goes to Nadal.:rolleyes:

JediFed
06-06-2008, 06:33 PM
Fed in 5.

6-4 2-6 6-4 6-7(3) 7-5

Clay Death
06-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Look for Nadal to score his most comprehensive win over Federer yet. He wins in 3 sets....something like 6-2, 6-1, 6-2. Federer has had a less than convincing build up to the finals this year. It's over.


the only x-factor is Fed`s serve. he will have to serve really huge and well above 70% to have a chance at one set. thats it. one set is all he is going to get. Nadal is going to wear down his damn arm and his shoulder from hitting a million backhands.

also Fed is unable to generate the depth/penetration and the pace off his backhand wing like Djokovic can. Nadal will be exploiting this little weakness all day long and opening up the court at will.

i think Fed has lost this match long before it is to be played. in his mind, he has already lost this match. he was hoping for a very long, drawn out battle between Nadal and Djokovic today and it didnt happen. Nadal got it done in straight set and in under 3 hours.

Fed knows he is in trouble. this mental edge that Nadal has over him is impossible to overcome.

DhammaTiger
06-06-2008, 06:39 PM
Rafa is the absolute best. Vamos Rafa the Great!

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-06-2008, 06:43 PM
He doesn't need any blessings to win it

don't say that , every one needs God blessing

yanchr
06-06-2008, 06:45 PM
Nadal in straights...

Roger, please prove me wrong, so wrong......

Matt01
06-06-2008, 06:48 PM
Fed knows he is in trouble. this mental edge that Nadal has over him is impossible to overcome.


*sigh* Can't you just shut up be quiet for once? We all know your stupid opinions on Rafa, Fed and Djoko now. :rolleyes:

iriraz
06-06-2008, 06:54 PM
Usually betweeen this two guys the sets are pretty tight.Either Federer gets to a big lead and Nadal comes back or they win their service games respectively until a tight 8 or 9th game.
Even if Nadal would win in 3 sets i predict a match over 3 hours time

Allez
06-06-2008, 06:58 PM
the only x-factor is Fed`s serve. he will have to serve really huge and well above 70% to have a chance at one set. thats it. one set is all he is going to get. Nadal is going to wear down his damn arm and his shoulder from hitting a million backhands.

also Fed is unable to generate the depth/penetration and the pace off his backhand wing like Djokovic can. Nadal will be exploiting this little weakness all day long and opening up the court at will.

i think Fed has lost this match long before it is to be played. in his mind, he has already lost this match. he was hoping for a very long, drawn out battle between Nadal and Djokovic today and it didnt happen. Nadal got it done in straight set and in under 3 hours.

Fed knows he is in trouble. this mental edge that Nadal has over him is impossible to overcome.

That's it in a nutshell. The only way Fed had a chance was through an inspired effort by Djokovic in the semis, pushing Nadal to 5 sets in 5 hours. Only injury or extreme exhaustion will ever beat Nadal @ RG.

nadal4ever
06-06-2008, 07:00 PM
:wavey:Rafa had 66 winners and 16 unforced errors against Nole. Roger is going down on Sunday--no doubt about it.:eek::angel:

Montego
06-06-2008, 07:00 PM
Odds:

Nadal 1.30 - Federer 4.05

To compare:

It was 1.45 - 3.04 in Monte Carlo and 1.59 - 2.61 in Hamburg.

Jaap
06-06-2008, 07:01 PM
One of the biggest shocks in sporting history if Fed manages to win this.

thegreendestiny
06-06-2008, 07:02 PM
The Heavens will reward Roger with an amazing backhand this Sunday. :angel:

He's been too good and patient these past years. :worship:

Clay Death
06-06-2008, 07:03 PM
That's it in a nutshell. The only way Fed had a chance was through an inspired effort by Djokovic in the semis, pushing Nadal to 5 sets in 5 hours. Only injury or extreme exhaustion will ever beat Nadal @ RG.


yep. Fed has even alluded to this fact somewhat before. after his 2007 loss at Monte Carlo he said that maybe someday he will be in the finals at Roland Garros and wont have to face Nadal. translation of course being that either he would be injured or that somebody else could derail him.

this might explain why Fed was 5-1 against the Clay Monster in the first set in Hamburg and still lost the set. i forget now but he was up with a similar score in the second set but Nadal came back and Fed managed to win it in the tiebreaker.

similarly, Fed was up 4-0 against Nadal in the 2nd set at Monte Carlo and still lost the set. he doesnt have the belief against Nadal.

scarecrows
06-06-2008, 07:04 PM
Fed should just try to not get humiliated, Rafa shouldnt have problems winning the match

scarecrows
06-06-2008, 07:06 PM
Odds:

Nadal 1.30 .

:eek::eek::eek::eek: what a gift

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 07:09 PM
Lol people thinking Rafa will win this easily? Federer is the best ever tennis player and he's bagelled Nadal twice. (6-1 as well)

iriraz
06-06-2008, 07:10 PM
If Federer gets in tight situation just like Monfils did today he can squeak out in sets like 7-5 or 6-4 if he gets a opportunities.But i doubt Federer could beat Nadal in 3 sets or in 5 sets.Best case scenario for Federer:6-4 7-5 3-6 7-6

Acer
06-06-2008, 07:11 PM
As much as I want Federer to take this I'll have to go with Nadal. In straights.

scoobs
06-06-2008, 07:12 PM
Lol people thinking Rafa will win this easily? Federer is the best ever tennis player and he's bagelled Nadal twice. (6-1 as well)
Easily? Not in the sense of 6-1 6-1 6-1. Roger still has enough to trouble Rafa SOME of the time - he can still hold his serve usually if he's serving well, the sets won't be that one sided. But when the moment comes, Nadal will take control and win the points that matter.

Simple as that.

It's not in Roger's hands because in himself, he doesn't have enough to derail Nadal unless Nadal helps him to do it - and that is not going to happen.

Del_Toro
06-06-2008, 07:12 PM
I wish Roger could win this but me thinks Rafa will win in 4 sets as usual.

At least Roger have avenged his RG loses by not allowing Rafa being the #1, not even for a single week!:devil:

TheSwissMaster
06-06-2008, 07:13 PM
roger has had a good practice against a moonballer today (damn he looked rafas dad in this department), hope that helps... hehehe.

ANYhow i hope roger realizes that this is his last chance to lift this trophy and to get the GOAT status, and comes out and plays the best match of life and ofcourse i also hope everything goes on right for him this sunday where everything is clicking for him and also rafa is a bit off.

still rafa in 4

Allez
06-06-2008, 07:15 PM
he doesnt have the belief against Nadal.

True, and he believes in himself even less over 5 sets. He knows winning the first is completely immaterial...even the first 2 sets. Going into a match with those grim thoughts is asking for trouble. Deep trouble as we no doubt will see on Sunday.

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 07:26 PM
Federer isn't winning it for several reasons
- he doesn't have ability to run around his backhand enough to make it a difference
- Nadal will be keeping that shots to his backhand and even when Roger Backhand is working, he can go nowhere he plays it CC and it's wearing him down, he can play it down the line but
a) it is risky low % shot so it won't work whole day long
b) he must be in great backhand form
- he can be agressive but even against Monfils it was not that effective he made too much errors at the net, and Nadal passing shots are at least twice more dangerous than Monfils
- he can play great but not for at least 4 sets, he played great in MC for a set but in best of 3 he can hope for Nadal to make some mistakes to take 2nd set etc, but not in best of 5
- Nadal is playing much better than ever on clay, his confidence is sky high
- Nadal made Djokovic look like a top50 c'mon he won 10+ straights points few times, and in 3rd he gave an opening. And Djoke is more dangerous for Nadal cos' he has that amazing backhand to dictate play when Roger will be playing 20BH without much penetration
- Roger's 57/30 ration vs Monfils means nothing , some of the shots were lovely, but Monfils was playing so many times in middle of the court giving put aways easily.

Allez
06-06-2008, 07:26 PM
Lol people thinking Rafa will win this easily? Federer is the best ever tennis player and he's bagelled Nadal twice. (6-1 as well)

Not on this surface he is not AND he has not been playing as a potential goat this year. It's going to be more than easy for Nadal. Look at how he demolished Verdasco, Almogro and Australian Open champion and future world number 1 Novak Djokovic. Anyone hoping for a meaty contest is in for a rude awakening. I'm so looking forward to the grass season. This read dirt is really statring to get on me nerves. Mind you Rafa may dominate there as well which would really vex me :mad:

ugotlobbed
06-06-2008, 07:27 PM
time for the roid juice

TNX1.0E6TOPCA
06-06-2008, 07:29 PM
I wish it will be RoGer :angel:

yanchr
06-06-2008, 07:31 PM
ANYhow i hope roger realizes that this is his last chance to lift this trophy and to get the GOAT status, and comes out and plays the best match of life and ofcourse i also hope everything goes on right for him this sunday where everything is clicking for him and also rafa is a bit off.

I won't say it's his last chance, but he is getting there...He needs a miracle this coming Sunday.

Jaap
06-06-2008, 07:33 PM
Lol people thinking Rafa will win this easily? Federer is the best ever tennis player and he's bagelled Nadal twice. (6-1 as well)

:spit:

yanchr
06-06-2008, 07:34 PM
Not on this surface he is not AND he has not been playing as a potential goat this year. It's going to be more than easy for Nadal. Look at how he demolished Verdasco, Almogro and Australian Open champion and future world number 1 Novak Djokovic. Anyone hoping for a meaty contest is in for a rude awakening. I'm so looking forward to the grass season. This read dirt is really statring to get on me nerves. Mind you Rafa may dominate there as well which would really vex me :mad:
Seriously you are looking forward to the grass season? I really doubt it, cuz you will think Roger is gonna lose to this and that guy on grass as well...

BTW, 61 62 61 or sth like that is not going to happen on Roger, even against this Nadal on clay.

Adler
06-06-2008, 07:35 PM
:spit:
If not him, then who is?

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 07:35 PM
Not on this surface he is not AND he has not been playing as a potential goat this year. It's going to be more than easy for Nadal. Look at how he demolished Verdasco, Almogro and Australian Open champion and future world number 1 Novak Djokovic. Anyone hoping for a meaty contest is in for a rude awakening. I'm so looking forward to the grass season. This read dirt is really statring to get on me nerves. Mind you Rafa may dominate there as well which would really vex me :mad:
Verdasco, Almagro and Djokovic are very far away from Federer and Nadal's level, (more Federer's level). Federer has bagelled Nadal on clay. It won't be easy for Nadal.

Allez
06-06-2008, 07:37 PM
Seriously you are looking forward to the grass season? I really doubt it, cuz you will think Roger is gonna lose to this and that guy on grass as well...

BTW, 61 62 61 or sth like that is not going to happen on Roger, even against this Nadal on clay.

But on the green grass there's always hope. :D

Jaap
06-06-2008, 07:39 PM
If not him, then who is?

I.Lendl, A.Agassi, P.Sampras, B.Bjorg, J.Connors, J.Mcenroe. among others.

Federer is playing in a mug era.

Allez
06-06-2008, 07:41 PM
Verdasco, Almagro and Djokovic are very far away from Federer and Nadal's level, (more Federer's level). Federer has bagelled Nadal on clay. It won't be easy for Nadal.

Perhaps you are referring to the 2003-2007 Roger Federer in which case I completely agree with you ;)

Horatio Caine
06-06-2008, 07:44 PM
Federer won't be winning a set if he plays like he did today.

guinevere_79
06-06-2008, 07:47 PM
I am hoping for a miracle.

Roger for the win!

maria_marie
06-06-2008, 07:50 PM
I expect a tight first set because it's the key for Roger to win this match, which is highly unlikely. I say Rafa in three sets, maybe four if Rafa once again gets distracted in the beginning of the second. Vamos Rafa!!!!!!!

Clay Death
06-06-2008, 07:52 PM
Federer won't be winning a set if he plays like he did today.


i understand he was a little nervous today. well on sunday he will shaking once Nadal has him on a string like a rat.

Kuhne
06-06-2008, 07:55 PM
I am guessing the same that happened in Hamburg, Montecarlo, last two roland garros' finals and that Rome final.

Federer comes and shows he can actualy beat Rafa on this surface, starts geting comfortable, then the break chances come, he realises he is actualy too close to actualy geting a solid lead, chokes the chances away and from there on won't be the same player and Rafa will maintain intensity and win the match.

Someone should hypnotise federer today and tell him the guy he is playing on sunday is Ferrer or something, if he doesnt know its Nadal on the other side he'll probably get a 4 set win.

So yeah, I give fed about 30% chance of taking it

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 08:06 PM
i understand he was a little nervous today. well on sunday he will shaking once Nadal has him on a string like a rat.
Yeah, but he's in the final, Djoke is not, he can shake as much as he wants, he's earned the merit to be there.

MIMIC
06-06-2008, 08:16 PM
On clay (right now): Nadal > Djokovic >> Federer

Voo de Mar
06-06-2008, 08:17 PM
:yawn:

Montego
06-06-2008, 08:21 PM
I can see that many people here say that Federer will be cooked, kicked, humiliated etc...At least it seems so after reading this thread. Therefore I wish Fed could win and I believe that if this happens - MTF will be blown off through the roof. So I just wish for a good match and I will be supporting Federer, although I admire both. I'd like to see it happen because I like surprises in sport in general.

Although probably Nadal will kick his arse and it will be a boring one-sider :angel:

dam0dred
06-06-2008, 08:24 PM
I would sell my soul to see Federer win.

But Nadal will take it in the most lopsided of the three finals they have played.

Mansave_75
06-06-2008, 08:33 PM
Rafa in three sets, and in four at least.

habibko
06-06-2008, 08:35 PM
reason says Rafa in 4, but I wish Fed could take it :sad:

and Rog isn't going to be easier than Djoko out there, take my word for it :o

HybridTheory
06-06-2008, 08:37 PM
I think Nadal in 3. I would love to see him winning his forth title, but I'm really exited by this final anyway, whoever wins.

tennizen
06-06-2008, 08:43 PM
I think we will finally have a five setter this year

Eden
06-06-2008, 08:47 PM
On clay (right now): Nadal > Djokovic >> Federer

Djokovic got one title in Rome, reached the SF in Monte Carlo, Hamburg and Paris. Federer got one title in Estoril, reached the finals in Monte Carlo, Hamburg and Paris. Looks like the better results, don't you think? ;)

MIMIC
06-06-2008, 09:07 PM
Djokovic got one title in Rome, reached the SF in Monte Carlo, Hamburg and Paris. Federer got one title in Estoril, reached the finals in Monte Carlo, Hamburg and Paris. Looks like the better results, don't you think? ;)

Fair enough, but I thought today that Djokovic played much better than I've ever seen Federer play on clay this year.

KoOlMaNsEaN
06-06-2008, 09:09 PM
No doubt in the world that Rafael will win.

scarecrows
06-06-2008, 09:10 PM
Fair enough, but I thought today that Djokovic played much better than I've ever seen Federer play on clay this year.

if you said Hamburg semifinal I might have agreed with you but today's performance of Djokovic was pretty weak, Fed has played at least 3 matches better than that this year

bad gambler
06-06-2008, 09:11 PM
Sadly Federer doesn't even have a 29% chance as this poll suggests

Good luck anyway Fed

anon57
06-06-2008, 09:13 PM
Fair enough, but I thought today that Djokovic played much better than I've ever seen Federer play on clay this year.

Actually today I didn't think Djokovic was that impressive, it wasn't until midway through the third set that he started playing better before that he wasn't playing that well either

Manon
06-06-2008, 09:28 PM
Nadal, 100 %.

sphiie
06-06-2008, 09:29 PM
Rafa will normally win in 4sets. Roger is strong anough and he will take one (or more we never know :( ) like always, because he has the keys to beat Rafa. But he failed so many times on clay against RAFA... I hope that Rafa will win in 3 or 4sets... he deserved this 4th title!!! VAMOS RAFAAAA!!

peterparker
06-06-2008, 09:57 PM
I think Nadal can take it in 3.

vaaaaaaaaaaaaaamoooooooos,

Parker

Rogiman
06-06-2008, 10:24 PM
I hope that Rafa will win in 3 or 4sets... he deserved this 4th title!!! VAMOS RAFAAAA!!I've always failed to understand how tennis players ever 'deserve' to win anything :retard:

Federer. contrary to what people here say, is playing his best tennis on clay right now, much better than 2005-07, but Nadal is in Machine-Mode at the moment and will need max. 4 sets to clinch this.

Givenchy
06-06-2008, 10:25 PM
Rafa will beat Roger yet again!:worship:

Tnn74
06-06-2008, 10:34 PM
Go achieve that BORGian status Rafa! :bounce:

spriwi
06-06-2008, 10:34 PM
rafa in 4

Black Raven
06-06-2008, 10:38 PM
Federer under 12 games.

renatoal
06-06-2008, 11:02 PM
Fed will shock everyone and will win this in 3 maybe 4 sets

Bernard Black
06-06-2008, 11:06 PM
I'm rooting for Federer big time but obviously Nadal is a big favourite. Even the alien couldn't beat him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5u19qBPmMQ

I just hope Roger brings his A game to the final for once, then we could have a classic match.

steffilover
06-06-2008, 11:14 PM
Roger won't win because:

1. Rafa is playing like a demon - no sets lost so far
2. Roger has already dropped sets to the likes of montanes and monfils and even looked shaky today.
3. Roger has the pressure of knowing this is the big one for him - the Holy Grail.
4. Roger blew big leads TWICE already this year in Mickey Mouse tournaments and has thus lost 6 sets in a row to Rafa on clay.
5. It's clay.
6. Rafa hasn't ever lost at Roland Garros.
7. Rafa is 10-6 H2H against Roger.
8. Rafa has never lost a 5 set clay court match.
9. There is no 5th set tie breaker even for Roger to rely on (see Rome 2006).
10. If even casual observers like me are convinced of Rafa's win, imagine what the main protagonists themselves must know - Rafa in 3 glorious sets on Sunday!:worship:

freeandlonely
06-06-2008, 11:18 PM
Nadal.
Hope proven wrong.

marcRD
06-06-2008, 11:26 PM
I wonder if the Roddick fans will once again come out on sunday and use the result to make Federer fans feel the pain they had to go throught all these years?

I remember they went nuts last year after the final, even more so than Rafa fans.

I have been thinking about taking some pills before the match to see if the experience is better when you are in a dreamy state of mind.

Goget
06-06-2008, 11:26 PM
Federer. contrary to what people here say, is playing his best tennis on clay right now, much better than 2005-07, but Nadal is in Machine-Mode at the moment and will need max. 4 sets to clinch this.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Nadal in 3 (6:3 6:4 6:2)

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 12:10 AM
Rafa in three. :worship:

As I like Roger just as much, I am happy that he at least managed to defend his points, and I hope he'll be able to give Raf a good match. No more than HOPE about that, though, as Raf truly seems to be better than ever on the terre batue this year. :worship:

prima donna
06-07-2008, 12:28 AM
Nadal in 4.

NYCtennisfan
06-07-2008, 12:53 AM
:wavey:Rafa had 66 winners and 16 unforced errors against Nole. Roger is going down on Sunday--no doubt about it.:eek::angel:

:lol:

littleash
06-07-2008, 02:23 AM
roger in 5 :rocker2:

Gnomey
06-07-2008, 04:02 AM
It's the 3rd time he's playing Nadal this year (same with Monfils)...so I'm hoping everything from the previous matches is still raw in his mind. I'm excited to see/hear how Roger plays on Sunday, like what he'll do more of, what plans to do less, if he'll be able to actually close sets, etc.

Halba
06-07-2008, 04:11 AM
roger aint getting a set. rafa in 3.

wurthluc91
06-07-2008, 04:22 AM
Roger will win - if Rafa's pet goldfish dies and his mental state is reduced to such a state of vulnerability that the score is 6-0 6-0 6-0.

Honestly, Roger has it in him, just has to let "it" out...

Polikarpov
06-07-2008, 04:52 AM
The last two finals, I had hopes of Roger winning. But this year...

Knightmace
06-07-2008, 06:09 AM
I want Fed to win.

Hopefully...

Lucinda
06-07-2008, 06:16 AM
I voted for Nadal. I hope the match is a really close, hard-fought three setter... since I don't want Nadal to have lost a set :p

Mateya
06-07-2008, 07:14 AM
If Fed plays like in SF, he will get destroyed by clay monster. Plus, Rafa is playing his best tennis again.

Rafzilla in 3, maybe 4. Everything else would be a huge upset for me.

:angel:

t0x
06-07-2008, 07:28 AM
As much as I'd love to see Roger win, it will not happen :( At least he defended his points.

We'll probably see another stinker of a match where half the points seem to end with a UE :o

3 consecutive finals is still a brilliant feat on your worst surface. And 4 in a row at any slam is brilliant. Congrats to both guys, and please try and prove me wrong by playing a quality match.

nanoman
06-07-2008, 08:22 AM
Nadal in 21....games that is.

deliveryman
06-07-2008, 08:37 AM
Looks like Roger is finally winning the French. For the first time at Roland Garros Bud Collins is actually picking Nadal over Fed.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25007516/

moon language
06-07-2008, 08:52 AM
Looks like Roger is finally winning the French. For the first time at Roland Garros Bud Collins is actually picking Nadal over Fed.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/25007516/

lol, bud collins. has he ever been right? i guess maybe one of these times the law of averages will work out for him.

deliveryman
06-07-2008, 08:57 AM
lol, bud collins. has he ever been right? i guess maybe one of these times the law of averages will work out for him.

Blasphemy. Bud Colllins defies all laws.

feuselino
06-07-2008, 09:10 AM
YES! Just what the doctor ordered! Roger for RG!!

Black Adam
06-07-2008, 09:11 AM
Didn't he pick Djokovic at AO??? Doesn't mean a thing :p

scarecrows
06-07-2008, 09:14 AM
Didn't he pick Djokovic at AO??? Doesn't mean a thing :p

yes, Bud is in winning streak

deliveryman
06-07-2008, 09:30 AM
Didn't he pick Djokovic at AO??? Doesn't mean a thing :p

Bud picking 2 in a row?

Next you're going to tell me they've found the cure for male pattern baldness.

safinalium
06-07-2008, 09:33 AM
Nadal will win the whole tournament without losing a set.

gulzhan
06-07-2008, 09:46 AM
it's the parallel world this year, the world where Bud Collins is right ;)

vincayou
06-07-2008, 09:46 AM
I have absolutely no hope in a Roger victory. :(

Nadal in 4.

t0x
06-07-2008, 10:15 AM
The last two finals, I had hopes of Roger winning. But this year...

Same feeling :(

At least last year Rog had a win at Hamburg. The year before the rivalry was still fairly young, and Rog hadn't lost a GS final. This year I can't see it happening - he'll be lucky to get a set I'm afraid.

Ivanatis
06-07-2008, 10:17 AM
Roger's not been that much of an underdog for a very long time I guess.

so, Nadal in 3, although I want Federer to win it

stebs
06-07-2008, 10:29 AM
Nadal in three or Nadal in four just like the Spainards other 27 matches at RG.

rocketassist
06-07-2008, 10:36 AM
It would be rather nice if Federer brought something to the table for this match, alas he'll probably fire for one set but lose in 4.

Korala
06-07-2008, 12:31 PM
Rafa is too good. he plays amazing like never before in Paris. Meaby if Roger won in MC or Hamburg he'll more confidence, but now it's impossible.
I think that it will be the worst them RG final ;/

Rafa 3-0

Neely
06-07-2008, 12:55 PM
It's hard to see Federer winning it, but somehow it also would be wrong to neglect the fact that he played very well in Hamburg against Nadal again, but couldn't finish it. In fact he was a mere let serve away to take the first set. Then you can play the IF-game what could, would have happened if Federer won the first serve. And of course Hamburg and Roland Garros Centre Court are different again.

robiht
06-07-2008, 01:22 PM
I absolultely agree with you Neely.
Federer has almost no chance to win it.
The difference between Hamburg and Garros that Nadal play 2 times better in Paris
Nadal won against Almagro and Djokovic so easily that i could never imagine.
Very strong and agressive tennis by Nadal.
And Federer's form was not the best yesterday :(
But we'll see it for sure tomorrow :)

Clay Death
06-07-2008, 02:07 PM
It's hard to see Federer winning it, but somehow it also would be wrong to neglect the fact that he played very well in Hamburg against Nadal again, but couldn't finish it. In fact he was a mere let serve away to take the first set. Then you can play the IF-game what could, would have happened if Federer won the first serve. And of course Hamburg and Roland Garros Centre Court are different again.

it may take Nadal a set to settle down and play his game. Fed will do all he can to disrupt Nadal`s rhythm. he will try to make sure Nadal stays off balanced as much as possible. to accomplish this, he will come out firing and will charge the net at every opportunity to see if he can shake up the Clay Monster.

Fed went to the net 64 times against Monfils. he won 49 of those points. that is a lot of points at the net and it keeps players off balanced. Fed will also try drop shots and short slices to bring Nadal into the net where he is not very comfortable.

Nadal will make the adjustments and will not allow Fed to play that way for too long. translation: there is a chance that Fed can win a set and it might be the first set. expect Nadal to make the adjustments and find his range and his rhythm by the second set. after that, there will be nothing that Fed can do.

alternatively, if Fed tries to play the way Djokovic played which is to wage war from the ground, he will be demolished beyond recognition. Fed has to play high risk and try charging the net at every opportunity. he will even play some serve n volley to give Nadal different looks.


translation: Fed cannot win no matter what he does.

RagingLamb
06-07-2008, 05:52 PM
Of course, Roger can win, but it's tough to see how.

Nadal in 4, if Roger plays well (he played well in MC and Hamburg), and the 1 set won't come after the second set.

HeretiC
06-07-2008, 06:07 PM
it may take Nadal a set to settle down and play his game. Fed will do all he can to disrupt Nadal`s rhythm. he will try to make sure Nadal stays off balanced as much as possible. to accomplish this, he will come out firing and will charge the net at every opportunity to see if he can shake up the Clay Monster.

Fed went to the net 64 times against Monfils. he won 49 of those points. that is a lot of points at the net and it keeps players off balanced. Fed will also try drop shots and short slices to bring Nadal into the net where he is not very comfortable.

Nadal will make the adjustments and will not allow Fed to play that way for too long. translation: there is a chance that Fed can win a set and it might be the first set. expect Nadal to make the adjustments and find his range and his rhythm by the second set. after that, there will be nothing that Fed can do.

alternatively, if Fed tries to play the way Djokovic played which is to wage war from the ground, he will be demolished beyond recognition. Fed has to play high risk and try charging the net at every opportunity. he will even play some serve n volley to give Nadal different looks.


translation: Fed cannot win no matter what he does.

Federer is too smart to charge the net too often against Nadal (he will get passed a lot) and also knows that using drop shots frequently will be counter-productive (Nadal is too quick) and that will force Nadal to play closer to the baseline which will have even more devastating impact on the outcome of their rallies.

Sofonda Cox
06-07-2008, 06:08 PM
Fed will win

ASP0315
06-07-2008, 06:12 PM
Never in doubt victory for nadal.

Allez
06-07-2008, 06:36 PM
it may take Nadal a set to settle down and play his game. Fed will do all he can to disrupt Nadal`s rhythm. he will try to make sure Nadal stays off balanced as much as possible. to accomplish this, he will come out firing and will charge the net at every opportunity to see if he can shake up the Clay Monster.

Fed went to the net 64 times against Monfils. he won 49 of those points. that is a lot of points at the net and it keeps players off balanced. Fed will also try drop shots and short slices to bring Nadal into the net where he is not very comfortable.

Nadal will make the adjustments and will not allow Fed to play that way for too long. translation: there is a chance that Fed can win a set and it might be the first set. expect Nadal to make the adjustments and find his range and his rhythm by the second set. after that, there will be nothing that Fed can do.

alternatively, if Fed tries to play the way Djokovic played which is to wage war from the ground, he will be demolished beyond recognition. Fed has to play high risk and try charging the net at every opportunity. he will even play some serve n volley to give Nadal different looks.


translation: Fed cannot win no matter what he does.

You've nailed it. Were I Rogi I woud just sit back and enjoy the show for he will be playing a clay GOAT. No shame in coming 2nd best to such a player.

groundstroke
06-07-2008, 06:38 PM
http://www.tennis.com/news/news.aspx?id=134622


Borg says Federer win would make him the best ever
PARIS -- Bjorn Borg has no doubt what it would mean if Roger Federer finally manages to beat Rafael Nadal in the French Open final.

"He definitely will be the greatest player ever to play the game," Borg said Saturday, a day before No. 1-ranked Federer meets No. 2 Nadal in their third consecutive championship match at Roland Garros.

While Borg preferred not to make a prediction, he does expect a tight contest.

"A lot of people, they say no one can beat Nadal tomorrow the way he's been playing," Borg said. "But I think Roger has a really, really good chance."

Borg plans to be present Sunday, watching in person as Nadal tries to equal the Swede's mark of four consecutive titles at Roland Garros. Last year, he sat in the front row during the Wimbledon final and watched Federer beat Nadal to equal Borg's mark of five consecutive titles at the All England Club.

"They produce the best tennis you can play," said Borg, who won 11 Grand Slam titles and was only 25 when he played his last major in 1981 before retiring. "It's like two artists playing out there, both of them."

Nadal is 10-6 against Federer -- including 8-1 on clay, and 3-0 at the French Open -- making him the only active player to have faced the Swiss star more than four times and compiled a winning record against him.

Still, Federer insists he is confident about his chances Sunday.

"Of course I believe," he said. "I believe very strongly that this is my year."

For each of the past four years, Federer has come to Paris knowing that he needed a French Open title to complete a career Grand Slam, something only five men have accomplished: Andre Agassi, Don Budge, Roy Emerson, Rod Laver and Fred Perry.

In 2005, that pursuit ended in the semifinals against Nadal.

In 2006 and 2007, he made it to the final, but lost each time to Nadal.

"This is a big thing for him," Borg said. "He never won Paris, and that's his biggest goal."
If the best ever player (apart from Federer) in the game says that, well you who think that Nadal is going to have it easy tomorrow; think again.

Jaap
06-07-2008, 06:38 PM
Borg is a senile mug.

Fed has no chance.

Andre♥
06-07-2008, 06:40 PM
The funny thing is that this is the year where nobody expects Federer to beat Nadal, unlike the past seasons. Maybe he does it this time! :haha:

Allez
06-07-2008, 06:44 PM
On what basis is he making this claim ? he just wants to build up anticipation so he can have a good old chuckle to himself when Roger loses tomorrow. Also he's wanting to set up winning the French as a non negotiable pre condition to being crowned the greatest ever knowing fully well that Roger will never win it. Don't buy it.

rofe
06-07-2008, 06:45 PM
Borg's records are being threatened so naturally he wants Fed to win here. He also predicted that Nadal will win Wimbly this year. :shrug:

Allez
06-07-2008, 06:45 PM
The funny thing is that this is the year where nobody expects Federer to beat Nadal, unlike the past seasons. Maybe he does it this time! :haha:

Borg expects him to win so he will definitely lose :eek:

groundstroke
06-07-2008, 06:47 PM
Borg's records are being threatened so naturally he wants Fed to win here. He also predicted that Nadal will win Wimbly this year. :shrug:
He predicted Nadal would win last year - look how close he came. Federer has already broken a few of Borg's records while Nadal would break 1. Don't find a shitty excuse.

octatennis
06-07-2008, 06:54 PM
he is just putting some extra pressure on federer's shoulders.

rofe
06-07-2008, 06:54 PM
He predicted Nadal would win last year - look how close he came. Federer has already broken a few of Borg's records while Nadal would break 1. Don't find a shitty excuse.

Wishful thinking. Borg was hoping that Nadal would not allow Fed to equal his record five consecutive Wimbly titles last year. Tomorrow he will be hoping that Fed prevents Nadal from equaling Borg's four RG titles in a row. Most people that have watches matches on clay between these two will attest to the fact that Fed is not winning three sets against Nadal.

Adler
06-07-2008, 06:58 PM
Looks like Alzheimer has finally got up with Bjorn

jasmin
06-07-2008, 07:10 PM
I stop putting stock in what Borg says even if he's right about something. He changes his story to much. First he's all up on Nadal to past Fed and then it's Djokovic. Then he's in the stands cheering for Fed over Nadal at Wimby. Then he think Nadal will win Wimby next time. He's just all over the place. Just lately he talked about Nadal winning many FO titles.

DrJules
06-07-2008, 07:14 PM
Nadal will win.

The difficult bit is to decide if it takes 3 or 4 sets.

nhissan
06-07-2008, 07:19 PM
Federer is going to lose if the french don't go berserk :devil:

babyfederer
06-07-2008, 07:33 PM
this is my first post.. I just have to say that i like federer but nadal is probably going to win. Against Monfils Federer was off. Its like the guy thinks too much out there. He had some balls that Nadal would put away no question and federer would just but them back in the court in reach for Monfils to get. He needs to get the killer instinct and when he gets a good ball to go for the lines. thats the only way he can beat Nadal.

BigJohn
06-07-2008, 07:59 PM
So Borg picks Federer, Bud Collins goes for Nadal.

This is truly a battle of the giants!

jazar
06-07-2008, 08:58 PM
roger will win in an epic 5 set battle, 23-31 in the fifth (no, seriously)

ranaldo
06-07-2008, 09:32 PM
this is my first post.. I just have to say that i like federer but nadal is probably going to win. Against Monfils Federer was off. Its like the guy thinks too much out there. He had some balls that Nadal would put away no question and federer would just but them back in the court in reach for Monfils to get. He needs to get the killer instinct and when he gets a good ball to go for the lines. thats the only way he can beat Nadal.

That's because he's come from winning 3 GS in 2005-2007 and multiple MS to just winning a 2nd rate tourney (Estoril). He's not so confident in his game anymore, hence the multiple shanks, UEs. I'm also thinking he went so much pressure after the Master Series that he put the foot off the pedal a little bit in January, off course there was this mono thing but he's apparently not recovered. We will only know once the hard court season starts again...

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 10:24 PM
That's because he's come from winning 3 GS in 2005-2007 and multiple MS to just winning a 2nd rate tourney (Estoril). He's not so confident in his game anymore, hence the multiple shanks, UEs. I'm also thinking he went so much pressure after the Master Series that he put the foot off the pedal a little bit in January, off course there was this mono thing but he's apparently not recovered. We will only know once the hard court season starts again...

I think you are too negative. Roger himself has said the mono is behind him for a few months now, and why not believe him? If there still is a problem with him, it's been his lack of match playing in the first three months, but that is behind him now as well. I think the recent Shank Fest is more due to him trying out things, as he knows very well that he'll have to play ultra-aggressive to have any chance in beating Rafa tomorrow. Playing as aggressive as he now does, that naturally results in more UEs when he's not at his best... but it can lead to success if his game is on.

Merton
06-07-2008, 10:43 PM
It is hard to predict anything other than Nadal in 4, even though I would love to see Roger winning. I just hope that Roger tries to use his variety and play like he did in Monte Carlo. I would prefer to see him going down in flames in 3 sets due to Nadal playing great than losing lamely in 4, like in the last 3 times those two met in Paris.

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 10:49 PM
It is hard to predict anything other than Nadal in 4, even though I would love to see Roger winning. I just hope that Roger tries to use his variety and play like he did in Monte Carlo. I would prefer to see him going down in flames in 3 sets due to Nadal playing great than losing lamely in 4, like in the last 3 times those two met in Paris.

:yeah:

roxannax
06-07-2008, 11:22 PM
Excuse me people, I don't know where else to say this so I'll say it right here, hope you don't mind (she sure deserves this):

CONGRATULATIONS TO ANA IVANOVIC, the BEST and the most BEAUTIFUL WOMAN IN TENNIS, THE QUEEN of Roland Garros and NUMBER ONE come Monday

ANA RULES !!!!!!!

scoobs
06-07-2008, 11:30 PM
Excuse me people, I don't know where else to say this so I'll say it right here, hope you don't mind (she sure deserves this):

CONGRATULATIONS TO ANA IVANOVIC, the BEST and the most BEAUTIFUL WOMAN IN TENNIS, THE QUEEN of Roland Garros and NUMBER ONE come Monday

ANA RULES !!!!!!!
WTA World would have been the best place, one suspects.

leng jai
06-07-2008, 11:33 PM
WTA World would have been the best place, one suspects.

Since its Ivanovic, saying it on MTF is just fine.

Clay Death
06-07-2008, 11:37 PM
It is hard to predict anything other than Nadal in 4, even though I would love to see Roger winning. I just hope that Roger tries to use his variety and play like he did in Monte Carlo. I would prefer to see him going down in flames in 3 sets due to Nadal playing great than losing lamely in 4, like in the last 3 times those two met in Paris.


he went up in flames after Nadal ended the belief and his spirit.

translation: Nadal had everything to do with it. get it right.

Commander Data
06-08-2008, 12:04 AM
People are underestimating Fed. Sure Nadal is the favorite, but Fed won't be blown off court. Fed has all the weapons to beat Nadal and my gut says he might finally use them to do it.

C'mon Fed switch in God Mode for 3 sets and get that GAOT status.

Damn, one of this times it has to work in his favour.

cool bird1
06-08-2008, 12:16 AM
I would love for Roger Federer to win. But he wont. He al wont he has a complex when it comes to Nadal on clay. Nadal in 3 very easy sets hitting to Roger back hand on nearly every point.

I dpnt think Im even gonna bother watching

cardio
06-08-2008, 06:43 AM
Well, after reading most of posts I feel little better about my 330 bucks put on Federer. I admit that his chances are slim and he has to make miracles here to win. But he also has THE MOST powerful weapon in Universe - MTF jinx.:) It can cancel Newton laws, change orbits of planets, I´m sure if there will be poll whether Sun will rise tomorrow and most of posters answer : "Sure, it will", it is 99% chance that it WILL NOT!:devil:
My choice on what I did put real money is : Federer in 4

Stefanos13
06-08-2008, 07:02 AM
Experts claim this is going to be a different final from the last two RG meetings, simply because Federer got rid of his Nadal complex and he'll play more aggressively, attack at the net, and drop shot...

I do believe that Federer may be coming with a new mindset this year (and a new coach) and all of these put together may help him get the first set (or two for that matter). But I doubt that he'll be able to keep the new plan's intensity for longer than that. Nadal will need some time to settle in the match and then attack from behind. That's how I see it – for now anyway...:rolleyes:

Nadal in 4 or 5

MatchFederer
06-08-2008, 07:16 AM
Federer can win this match. I have been pretty damn emotional throughout the whole night. I have not slept. Take it Roger...


Roger...

You have played great tennis before to take sets or get into big leads in sets against Nadal. Remember what got you there...

Allez
06-08-2008, 07:23 AM
This is going to be painful. Should I watch it ?

HNCS
06-08-2008, 07:30 AM
All we need to know is that Bud Collins says Nadal will win.

:lol:

Stefanos13
06-08-2008, 07:30 AM
This is going to be painful. Should I watch it ?
In what sense?

TheSwissMaster
06-08-2008, 07:38 AM
there is a thing called try, try and try...
& thats what roger has been doing for 4 yrs, i hope today he gets rewarded for that but i know he wouln't. rafa:mad:

Tennisman82
06-08-2008, 07:48 AM
No doubt Nadal is winning his fourth straight RG, just a question of what the scoreline will be. I say he’ll win after duking it out 6-3 2-6 7-6 6-4.

As good as Nadal is on clay I don’t see him bagelling Federer. Actually I wouldn’t be surprised if Fed bagels Nadal on clay while in one of his super-hot modes & still ends up losing!

Should be a cracker.

Tennisman82.

Tennisman82
06-08-2008, 07:51 AM
This is going to be painful. Should I watch it ?

Of course! It's a Nadal/Federer match-up, & they (along with Novak) produce by far the best tennis out there today.

When Fed dismissed Nadal last yr in Shanghai 6-4 6-1, the tennis produced was still outstanding!

Tennisman82.

Tennisman82
06-08-2008, 07:52 AM
there is a thing called try, try and try...
& thats what roger has been doing for 4 yrs, i hope today he gets rewarded for that but i know he wouln't. rafa:mad:

Yes Federer is too good to continue losing in RG finals. As long as he continues making finals he's bound to win it one day.

Tennisman82.

DrJules
06-08-2008, 08:07 AM
All we need to know is that Bud Collins says Nadal will win.

:lol:

That would certainly encourage those who stated Federer.:lol::lol::lol:

Allez
06-08-2008, 08:27 AM
In what sense?

Another final. Another loss for Roger, only this time it's going to be a comprehensive loss given how insanely well Nadal's been playing. No one wants to see the world number 1 destroyed like that, not even Nadal fans I'd bet.

Stefanos13
06-08-2008, 08:28 AM
No one wants to see the world number 1 destroyed like that, not even Nadal fans I'd bet.

Oh I do! :lick: :devil:

Allez
06-08-2008, 08:32 AM
Of course! It's a Nadal/Federer match-up, & they (along with Novak) produce by far the best tennis out there today.

When Fed dismissed Nadal last yr in Shanghai 6-4 6-1, the tennis produced was still outstanding!

Tennisman82.

The question is, if the outcome is a foregone conclusion as it is in this case, what's there for the spectator to enjoy ? Yes there'll be a couple of impossible shots made, but it would be great if the outcome was completely unpredictable.:D

rafa_maniac
06-08-2008, 08:33 AM
Oh I do! :lick: :devil:

Same. Why do Federer fans think everyone feels as preciously about him as they do?

Allez
06-08-2008, 08:36 AM
Oh I do! :lick: :devil:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :boxing:

rafa_maniac
06-08-2008, 08:37 AM
The question is, if the outcome is a foregone conclusion as it is in this case, what's there for the spectator to enjoy ? Yes there'll be a couple of impossible shots made, but it would be great if the outcome was completely unpredictable.:D

Where is this attitude from Federer fans at Wimbledon? Or during the years when he dominated like crazy? I just don't understand why all of a sudden we're supposed to feel sorry for the fact that Federer might lose, like he's being hard done by, the same player whose absolutely dominated the tour for 4 years now and has denied dozens of players the chance of winning slams. Somehow it's a "cruel" of someone else to be allowed to win something, and Nadal is all but nothing without Roland Garros.

Allez
06-08-2008, 08:49 AM
Where is this attitude from Federer fans at Wimbledon? Or during the years when he dominated like crazy? I just don't understand why all of a sudden we're supposed to feel sorry for the fact that Federer might lose, like he's being hard done by, the same player whose absolutely dominated the tour for 4 years now and has denied dozens of players the chance of winning slams. Somehow it's a "cruel" of someone else to be allowed to win something, and Nadal is all but nothing without Roland Garros.

Last year's Wimbledon final was anything but predictable and I'll be the first to admit I did get bored of Rogi only meeting clowns in slam finals. I would take Marat's 2005 Ozzy semi final win over, say Roger's 2004 US Open win over Hewitt (not that Hewitt is a clown !). It's the unpredictability of life that makes it exciting. Having Nadal win RG every year has to get boring even for most ardent of Nadal's fans. I just wish Roger had done more this year to give his fans some hope that today's result may turn out differently to all the rest.

This years Wimbledon is up for grabs. That is why it's going to be infinitely more exciting than RG. Should Roger win it, it will be considered a genuine comeback victory. ;)

Tennisman82
06-08-2008, 08:53 AM
The question is, if the outcome is a foregone conclusion as it is in this case, what's there for the spectator to enjoy ? Yes there'll be a couple of impossible shots made, but it would be great if the outcome was completely unpredictable.:D

It's most certainly not a foregone conclusion. If it were any other player then maybe you can say that, but it's Federer. There are huge legacy implications for him if he were to win so he's going to fight like his life depended on it. It may still mean a straight-sets loss but it won't mean Nadal is going to win it easily. Far from it.

We should be thankful that we're witnessing another great in the making here (Nadal & albeit only on clay), as he's playing tennis on clay that arguably the best & most complete player ever has not been able to match.

Gosh, as I say all this the final is just a few hours away...

Tennisman82.

rafa_maniac
06-08-2008, 10:46 AM
Last year's Wimbledon final was anything but predictable and I'll be the first to admit I did get bored of Rogi only meeting clowns in slam finals. I would take Marat's 2005 Ozzy semi final win over, say Roger's 2004 US Open win over Hewitt (not that Hewitt is a clown !). It's the unpredictability of life that makes it exciting. Having Nadal win RG every year has to get boring even for most ardent of Nadal's fans. I just wish Roger had done more this year to give his fans some hope that today's result may turn out differently to all the rest.

This years Wimbledon is up for grabs. That is why it's going to be infinitely more exciting than RG. Should Roger win it, it will be considered a genuine comeback victory. ;)

The final wasn't predictable DURING, as the RG final this year may prove to be aswell. And no, I don't find Rafa winning RG every year "boring" because I am a fan, and as I said, it's his playground and if he loses it his status as a player greatly diminishes because really, it's what defines him. If Rafa started dominated the entire year like Fed did for a while, I'm sure I WOULD get bored.

Gnomey
06-08-2008, 12:04 PM
Just under an hour to go, people!

the cat
06-08-2008, 12:48 PM
The cooler weather conditions in Paris are right for Federer to finally beat Nadal at the French Open and complete the very rare career grand slam. Nadal is playing very well but he hasn't played anyone here who can serve and volley or hit winners from anywhere like Federer and I think Federer will have a fine serving day and win a close 5 set match for the ages 6-4 3-6 7-6(4) 4-6 6-4.

ranaldo
06-08-2008, 01:44 PM
Everyone thinks Nadal's backhand is weak, that's why they keep loosing. You should at times bully his forehand, defensively it's not as good... Also, even though all the pro say so never serve and volley against Nadal, that's not gonna cut it

Allez
06-08-2008, 01:49 PM
The cooler weather conditions in Paris are right for Federer to finally beat Nadal at the French Open and complete the very rare career grand slam. Nadal is playing very well but he hasn't played anyone here who can serve and volley or hit winners from anywhere like Federer and I think Federer will have a fine serving day and win a close 5 set match for the ages 6-4 3-6 7-6(4) 4-6 6-4.

:haha::haha: I hope you're watching the match. Going exactly as I predicted.

ranaldo
06-08-2008, 01:50 PM
Ok, that's 0/3 while serve and volleying. Both serves were excellent, the volleys where good but this is the 21St century, clay is slow, rackets are good enough that you don't have to worry where to hit the passing shot...

tennisfan444
06-08-2008, 01:57 PM
Poor Fed, I can't watch anymore its too sad! Ugh!!!

tangerine_dream
06-08-2008, 02:01 PM
Rafa is producing outstanding tennis so the Federer fans must be enjoying this.