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Federer def. Monfils 6-2, 5-7, 6-3, 7-5. Sets up the trilogy vs Nadal

LinkMage
06-06-2008, 06:32 PM
What a horrible match.


Piggy is going to **** FedMug on Sunday.

Kuhne
06-06-2008, 06:33 PM
Federer managed to play his absolute worst match of the tournament in the semis...

Monfis on the other hand, came to fight. The french should be proud of him.

Roger better bring it on sunday or we'll have a boring ending to an already very boring tournament.

If one thing worked for Roger is that new dropshot he has been doing a lot. It is a thing of beauty.

Montego
06-06-2008, 06:33 PM
4th set was magnifique :bowdown:

dam0dred
06-06-2008, 06:33 PM
Who was that and what has he done with Roger Federer? Hideous, hideous performance.

Aurora
06-06-2008, 06:33 PM
too bad, Gaël :sobbing:

G4.
06-06-2008, 06:34 PM
spartan tennis from fed

Fedexex
06-06-2008, 06:34 PM
:tape:
worst match of the year!!imo:rolleyes:

God help him against rafa:D

adee-gee
06-06-2008, 06:34 PM
Thrilling stuff from Gael :clap2: unlucky not to take it to a 5th.

Time to get your arse kick Roger :D

Aurora
06-06-2008, 06:34 PM
Who was that CurbancleFed
and what has he done with Roger Federer? ate him

Voo de Mar
06-06-2008, 06:34 PM
Good match :) Generally Monfils can be proud of himself.

LleytonMonfils
06-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Gael earned his respect. He came to play, and didn't let the moment overcome him. He'll be back.

Nice win Roger!

Rafalover15
06-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Gael :worship:

You did well babes :sobbing:

Fed was just too good

zicofirol
06-06-2008, 06:35 PM
terrible...
and monflis... my god... step in every once in a while, he has the talent to do it, but..

Smasher
06-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Half of the mighty Federer was mentally already in the final during the match

IAMlegend
06-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Gael needs to work on his serves. The percentage is way too low. He played worst against Gonzalez by the way.

Mr. Magassi
06-06-2008, 06:36 PM
How can Roger play his worst match and have a +50 differential? Please explain...

Horatio Caine
06-06-2008, 06:36 PM
Well, I'm currently rather ill, and watching that (turned off after 3rd set) didn't make me feel any better...crappy performance from Roger, but the French should be proud with Monfils's effort, especially as he looked to be heading for a fairly swift defeat in the early stages. :yeah:

Rafa must be laughing his way to the trophy cabinet as we speak.

Andi-M
06-06-2008, 06:36 PM
Roger was serve totallly ineffective today. Without his cheapos on serve Ndal will kill him in long rallies.

Monfils did good...proud of him :)

prima donna
06-06-2008, 06:36 PM
Monfils comported himself as a perfect hooligan.

The Freak
06-06-2008, 06:36 PM
Great fight from Gael, there's nothing to be ashamed of after that. :bigclap:
Fed just too good once again.

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 06:37 PM
I hope Nadal will straight set him easily like 6-2 6-4 6-4 it would end Roger's hopes forever

roddicking
06-06-2008, 06:37 PM
It's a very ugly match.If the court always like this awful,Roland Garros defenitely doesn't deserve to own a grand slam!

Montego
06-06-2008, 06:37 PM
How can Roger play his worst match and have a +50 differential? Please explain...

57 winners / 30 UEs

This is the true stat

IAMlegend
06-06-2008, 06:37 PM
He never should have left Thierry Champion. I mean, he was at # 23 in the world when he left him. Now back with him for only a few months and good things are starting to happen.

Gnomey
06-06-2008, 06:37 PM
Can't wait to see what Roger says in his press conf.

Seriously, how many break points did he let go of?? He missed 2 match points in the 2nd last game. And almost all his service games going to a deuce!

Oh well, congrats, Roger. Hope today's you will not show up in the final.

anon57
06-06-2008, 06:38 PM
Monfils played well after the first set when he started playing a bit more agressive, good tournament for him:yeah:
Federer:help: but at least you've defended your points from last year

madmanfool
06-06-2008, 06:38 PM
that's what Monfils does so well. He makes his opponent play bad. Just ask Ferrer. Ferrer forehand was terrible at times. So was Federer's and his volleys too. But that's all got to do with Monfils.

bluefork
06-06-2008, 06:38 PM
Federer's volleys. :tape: He was definitely not dealing with the pressure situations well (as usual). Hopefully being the underdog will help out in the final, although I doubt it.

Apemant
06-06-2008, 06:38 PM
Who was that and what has he done with Roger Federer? Hideous, hideous performance.

We are so spoiled :devil:


Yes he missed some unbelievably easy volleys and came up with :retard: ideas at times, but he also executed several miraculous shots... obviously his focus went up and down wildly - my guess is that he wasn't even sure he wants to win that match :devil:

Rafa is waiting and it definitely takes balls just to show up, LOL

luzkoz
06-06-2008, 06:39 PM
Roger...another RG final :D
Gael :wavey::)

jasmin
06-06-2008, 06:40 PM
Well I don't care if Roger loses Sunday..it's expected. He defended his points or whatever. Also no one thought after this season that Roger would even make the final at RG a 3rd time which is a big accomplishment. IMO he succeeded in what he needed to do this year. Maybe he will do better next and win the whole thing. Good job Roger for playing badly and still winning. Good for Monfils to fight and have the crowd behind him but I can't imagine what the score would have been if Roger were playing his game like he eventually did against Gonzo.

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 06:40 PM
Fantastic match - Federer missed so many chances. Monfils played great today, played more aggressive too.

RogerFan82
06-06-2008, 06:40 PM
Good on Rog!!! Now let me hope for a miracle on sunday.

Tommy fan
06-06-2008, 06:41 PM
So ,any stupid errors from Roger :smash:
Good luck in the final!!

Corey Feldman
06-06-2008, 06:41 PM
points defended

fuck the final

just waiting for grass now

juninhOH
06-06-2008, 06:41 PM
shutup RETARDS.

Roger played very OK except for some errors.

Do you think it's easy to stop someone who is running gold, especially at the semi-finals of a Grand Slam? Roger did ok, Monfils served very well too.

Not the best match from Roger but he obviously didn't play 'BAD'.

LleytonMonfils
06-06-2008, 06:41 PM
Monfils comported himself as a perfect hooligan.

Looooooooooooooser!

Mr. Magassi
06-06-2008, 06:42 PM
57 winners / 30 UEs

This is the true stat

That's still excellent... almost 1 out of 2 shots was a winner!

FNT
06-06-2008, 06:42 PM
Roger was awesome in the big points tho. I don't know, Fed wasn't too good, but the match was yummy. What a fight from Gael and WHAT A CROWD.

Jaap
06-06-2008, 06:42 PM
Horrible match between two mugs.

martinatreue
06-06-2008, 06:43 PM
57 winners / 30 UEs

This is the true stat


I don't know how you come up with that statistic BUT if it is true I still think +27 on slow red clay against a great retriever like Monfils is still quite good.

HeretiC
06-06-2008, 06:43 PM
Gael unlucky not to take this into fifth, but to be honest responsible for this scoreline were Federer's errors, although Gael didn't shit his pants and fought bravely.

scoobs
06-06-2008, 06:44 PM
Not Roger's best but got it done - never really delivers in the semis of Roland Garros but for the last 3 years he's got through it anyway.

Defended his clay points this year compared to last so I'm happy about that.

I don't rate his chances at all in the final - let's see how Plan...K....L...what are we up to now?...works out in the final, but Nadal is the prohibitive favourite.

Roger's clay record is not too shabby either - he'll probably never win this event but to reach the final 3 times on his worst surface is still highly commendable.

Greenday
06-06-2008, 06:44 PM
Midway thru the second set after he got the early break fed started half arsing his shots expecting Monflis to go away and suddenly he is down a set.......Monflis came to fight......I lost count of how many games fed went to deuce on Monflis server and ended up losing the game......His running forehand wasn't working at all......and somehow he fought thru and won the match....as someone said Spartan stuff from fed....even thursady he apparently practiced with a french left handed player.....tht tells me tht his mid was already in the final and he was sort of over confdent.....He is saving his best for the final :).....

Honestly I dont think he can defeat rafa....if he can get a set thts an accomplishment.....Oh well he defended his points and the race gap between him and novak gets reduced now....a win is a bonus....


But Congrats Fed for the 3rd straight final at Roland Garros....:worship::worship::worship::worship:

and Good luck for the final...You need it

roddicking
06-06-2008, 06:44 PM
Maybe Federer can beat Nadal in the final,because the poor semifinal match has taken all pressure off him!

LinkMage
06-06-2008, 06:44 PM
BTW, did Fed ask for advice to Roddick on how to volley today? It was pathetic. :o

FedFan_2007
06-06-2008, 06:46 PM
Congrats to Monfils, he played real well. We'll see if he can be consistent now and get back into the top 20.

Action Jackson
06-06-2008, 06:46 PM
Fed got the job done, that's all he needed to do, seems too many people miss the fact that the W is what counts.

As for Monfils, he fought hard and didn't bend over.

Bijoux0021
06-06-2008, 06:47 PM
Great Job, Gael. :bigclap:

Win the title tomorrow, Roger. :rocker:

Greenday
06-06-2008, 06:47 PM
I hope Nadal will straight set him easily like 6-2 6-4 6-4 it would end Roger's hopes forever

I hope tht Murray or roger or nadal or djokovic kicks duck's ass in wimbledon thereby ending his hopes forever

elessar
06-06-2008, 06:48 PM
Agree with Georgie.

Quite a display by Roger, I think it's pretty safe to say the first Rg title is in the bag now :cool:

Clara Bow
06-06-2008, 06:48 PM
racist.

I hear ya. It would be lovely to read a thread about Monfils that does not have some nasty racial overtones for freakin' once.


Well-Roger won when he was not playing his best at all and that can be important. And good on Gael for fighting really hard out there. It would be nice if that garnered him some more respect but I doubt that will happen.

Kuhne
06-06-2008, 06:48 PM
Anyways, chokefest shotmaking from Federer and all, I gota give it to him. the way he started the year and the people he was losing to, no big time titles etc.. nobody really expected him to make the final of the slam he has more difficulty in, and there he is. on guts alone

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 06:49 PM
The French shouldn't look at Tsonga or Gasgay - look at Monfils. Seriously, I doubted the guy and he's proved just about everyone wrong, he didn't bend over, played solid tennis.
Saying that however, Federer would have beaten Monfils comfortably were it not for the 30+ UE's he made.. Soooo many easy chances missed!

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 06:49 PM
I hope tht Murray or roger or nadal or djokovic kicks duck's ass in wimbledon thereby ending his hopes forever
Roddick winning Wimbledon? :lol:

IAMlegend
06-06-2008, 06:50 PM
I'm not sure I get the humor. There should be a law against "smilies abuse".

TheSwissMaster
06-06-2008, 06:50 PM
what an escape, thanks God. i had already changed my schedule for sunday until fed remembered how to volley in the last game.

FedFan_2007
06-06-2008, 06:50 PM
Honestly, after Miami I was thinking the clay season would be a total disaster and lose his #1 ranking. Wins Estoril, F Monte Carlo, QF Rome, F Hamburg and F Roland Garros. I never dreamed it was possible given monoFed.

IAMlegend
06-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Roddick winning Wimbledon? :lol:

With his serves, if Fed trips, he'll be right there. I think Roddick is better now than he was last year.

zcess81
06-06-2008, 06:52 PM
Federer managed to play his absolute worst match of the tournament in the semis...

Monfis on the other hand, came to fight. The french should be proud of him.

Roger better bring it on sunday or we'll have a boring ending to an already very boring tournament.

If one thing worked for Roger is that new dropshot he has been doing a lot. It is a thing of beauty.

For Fed this trilogy will end like the Godfather trilogy did...disappointing.

m9m9m9m9m9
06-06-2008, 06:52 PM
Midway thru the second set after he got the early break fed started half arsing his shots expecting Monflis to go away and suddenly he is down a set.......Monflis came to fight......I lost count of how many games fed went to deuce on Monflis server and ended up losing the game......His running forehand wasn't working at all......and somehow he fought thru and won the match....as someone said Spartan stuff from fed....even thursady he apparently practiced with a french left handed player.....tht tells me tht his mid was already in the final and he was sort of over confdent.....He is saving his best for the final :).....

Honestly I dont think he can defeat rafa....if he can get a set thts an accomplishment.....Oh well he defended his points and the race gap between him and novak gets reduced now....a win is a bonus....


But Congrats Fed for the 3rd straight final at Roland Garros....:worship::worship::worship::worship:

and Good luck for the final...You need it

Fedmug's forehand on the run has been pretty bad this year
He's not the mover he once was(though he still got great footwork)

FedFan_2007
06-06-2008, 06:53 PM
So what about Nadal's chances at Queen's Club?

Monteque
06-06-2008, 06:53 PM
Roger plays ups and downs.
One good match, one bad match, one superb match.

So i wont kick his chance to beat Rafa in the final. Who know he'll turn himself as a JesusFed.

Chance for Fed: 35% to get the title

Apemant
06-06-2008, 06:54 PM
57 winners / 30 UEs

This is the true stat

That's actually quite fucking good if true. I guess several of those 30 UEs were REALLY UGLY and should've been easy winners so Fed fans just overreact a bit.

Also, the feeling that playing like that he has NO CHANCE IN HELL against Nadal, must add to the feeling that he was playing 'crappy'. :devil:

HarryMan
06-06-2008, 06:55 PM
Monfils was really good today and he deserved that set which he won, really good fight from Roger in the end :hatoff:

JediFed
06-06-2008, 06:55 PM
Borg - Four consecutive RG Finals, 4 wins
Lendl - Four consecutive RG Finals, 3 wins
Nadal - Four consecutive RG Finals, 3 wins
Federer - Three consecutive RG Finals, 0 wins.

That's something neither Wilander, nor Guga has done here at RG.

richie21
06-06-2008, 06:56 PM
Federer was simply HORRIBLE.
Why didn't he play like that against Gasquet in Wimbledon last year??:mad:

TheSwissMaster
06-06-2008, 06:57 PM
Honestly, after Miami I was thinking the clay season would be a total disaster and lose his #1 ranking. Wins Estoril, F Monte Carlo, QF Rome, F Hamburg and F Roland Garros. I never dreamed it was possible given monoFed.

and what a fairy tale ending it would be if he ends up a RG winner this sunday. a year that looked to be the start of his decline could all of a sudden turn into something unforgettable:) but then rafa comes to mind and my dreams end there:sad:

but we can still dream:D

ChinoRios4Ever
06-06-2008, 07:01 PM
MonoFed in a GS final :worship:

Apemant
06-06-2008, 07:01 PM
Chance for Fed: 35% to get the title

15% is pushing it already... 35% is way too much.

I wonder what the bookies say.

The Freak
06-06-2008, 07:02 PM
Federer was simply HORRIBLE.
Why didn't he play like that against Gasquet in Wimbledon last year??:mad:

Clay plus Gasquet doesn't fight like Gael.

ShimSham
06-06-2008, 07:02 PM
Great match and great tournament for Monfils. :worship:
I just hope in the future, that he can keep this up and improve.

coria_fan
06-06-2008, 07:03 PM
Very good mach for Gael! Gael have a very good changes for Wimbly! ALEZZ! :)

TheSwissMaster
06-06-2008, 07:03 PM
its as much as of rafa not showing up

IAMlegend
06-06-2008, 07:03 PM
Monfils was really good today and he deserved that set which he won, really good fight from Roger in the end :hatoff:

Monfils can play better than that. 3/13 on break point conversion. Some of these he threw away by playing his dropshots. Dropshots should be banned for All French players except Tsonga. His second serve needs not beefing up, but a touch more variety. I think his game will improve.

Fedex
06-06-2008, 07:09 PM
How can Roger play his worst match and have a +50 differential? Please explain...

Refer to my thread on the RG stats.

Adler
06-06-2008, 07:12 PM
Everything was juuuust under control, Monfils is a great retriever and Federer lost it for a moment

The result was never in doubt

Props for Gael for a great fighting spirit. Saw this match Gasquet?

BlakeJamitis
06-06-2008, 07:24 PM
CONGRATS FED:worship:

What an interesting year this is turning out to be for you.
NOW SHOCK THE WORLD ON SUNDAY!!! I actually think you will!!!

As for Mr. Gael - Great job! Here's to few, better yet, no more injuries. I pray that you will continue to get better and improve your game. Your talents speak of top 10. Let's go man!!!

garad
06-06-2008, 07:34 PM
57 winners / 30 UEs

This is the true stat

Still great stat. And I think that match was great, certainly one of the best this RG. I really don't understand people's reactions here. That fourth set was high quality..

xargon
06-06-2008, 07:37 PM
Dropping 3 sets before the final? Not looking good for Federina:eek:

dam0dred
06-06-2008, 07:41 PM
Fed got the job done, that's all he needed to do, seems too many people miss the fact that the W is what counts.

As for Monfils, he fought hard and didn't bend over.

No one is disputing that but surely we can comment on his level of play and current form?:rolleyes:

xargon
06-06-2008, 07:42 PM
nobody really expected him to make the final of the slam he has more difficulty in, and there he is.

He had a cupcake draw. That helps.:)

mikkemus23
06-06-2008, 07:43 PM
Gael has grown quite a few inches in confidence since last meeting and doesnt bow down to Fed as he used to.

Fed Fed Fed, why make the simple complicated?

Gotta shut down those UE or this could get ugly. C`MON!!!!! :tennis:

Gnomey
06-06-2008, 07:44 PM
I love that emotion from Roger at the end. The most encouraging thing today...he wants this so bad.
http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/52f4d3c5-01f6-4d4f-a27a-12952de1b0ba.jpg

alfonsojose
06-06-2008, 07:50 PM
TrŤs bien, Gael

thegreendestiny
06-06-2008, 07:57 PM
God help Roger this Sunday!!!:help:

Come on Roger, i know you will be third time lucky! Complete your slams and prove why you've been No.1 all these years. Your victory on Sunday will forever be etched in the Halls of History. :worship:


:angel::angel::angel:

Allez
06-06-2008, 08:03 PM
Oh dear :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
06-06-2008, 08:03 PM
No one is disputing that but surely we can comment on his level of play and current form?:rolleyes:

Honestly what do you expect. He isn't going to go around thumping people 1, 1 and 1 all the time.

He played as well as he needed to, it's simple. Some days he has played better and lost, it's sport it happens.

He got the win, match is over, move forward to the final.

jasmin
06-06-2008, 08:11 PM
Dropping 3 sets before the final? Not looking good for Federina:eek:


Minus being sick in AO I wouldn't be shocked he drop sets at the French Open. Now if he does it at Wimby and maybe the US Open then I would wonder what's going on.

dam0dred
06-06-2008, 08:11 PM
He got the win, match is over, move forward to the final.

I was under the impression this was a discussion forum in which fans of tennis came to talk about things like how a match played out and how the players performed.

Sorry - okay folks, match is over, end of discussion. Better lock this thread.

rwn
06-06-2008, 08:13 PM
Still great stat. And I think that match was great, certainly one of the best this RG. I really don't understand people's reactions here. That fourth set was high quality..

If Federer doesn't win easily in 3 sets and makes every volley he played crap. Haven't you learned anything on MTF ?

FluffyYellowBall
06-06-2008, 08:14 PM
I didnt watch from the 2nd set on..was stuck in traffic :drive: but heard it was an amazing last set and a half or so.. I guess most MTFers are hard to please:unsure:

Were there many cries of ay-ya-ya from Federer?:angel:

cardio
06-06-2008, 08:27 PM
Well, I'm currently rather ill, and watching that (turned off after 3rd set) didn't make me feel any better...crappy performance from Roger, but the French should be proud with Monfils's effort, especially as he looked to be heading for a fairly swift defeat in the early stages. :yeah:

Rafa must be laughing his way to the trophy cabinet as we speak.

It is all huge and evil Higueras-Fed conspiracy . They know they cant beat Nadal in normal way, so they have to fool him to believe that #1 plays complete crap and is not threat to Rafa. It all started in Monaco, when Fed tried how he can play aggressive game on clay - result was positive, 4-0 up , then mastermind Higueras told him to tank - Nadal is not allowed to know how good Fed really is. Conspiracy continued in Hamburg : 5-1 up in first and Oscar-worthy tank again, now Rafa believes that Rogi is the worst and easiest opponent he ever will have in finals, becomes all careless and Fed can catch him off guard. Today performance continues, couple of good games not to lose the match, then ultimate garbage to fool Nadal to believe that Fed is ATP#379 on clay.Poor naive Rafa, he believes he can eat some tasty cheese on Sunday, there is free cheese ,OK, but he has no idea that it is in mousetrap:devil:

FedererBulgaria
06-06-2008, 08:59 PM
shutup RETARDS.

Roger played very OK except for some errors.

Do you think it's easy to stop someone who is running gold, especially at the semi-finals of a Grand Slam? Roger did ok, Monfils served very well too.

Not the best match from Roger but he obviously didn't play 'BAD'.

:yeah:


Congrats Fed!Try to win a final,give your best , the result is not so important,just give your best!;)

Collective
06-06-2008, 09:05 PM
All I read here is that Roger Federer is playing utter crap. Match after match all posts are "What a terrible performance", "The other guy must have come drunk to lose to such a crappy Federer", etc, etc...

So my question is...

Is the ATP really really really THAT weak? Can someone playing rubbish reach the final of a GS on his worst surface? That basically means that the rest of the field is on amateur level.

Let's get real. The man is playing ok, having some errors, but still good enough to win his matches without too much trouble.

Long live the #1.

Eden
06-06-2008, 09:22 PM
Who would have expected it that Roger would get into the final at Roland Garros when watching his matches in Estoril? He had a good claycourt season and it is a great achievement to reach his 3rd consecutive final in Paris :)

Congrats to him and also to Gael for his excellent run on home soil :yeah:

raven gypsy
06-06-2008, 09:22 PM
Fed's presser:

Q. Kind of same time, same place, same opponent, same emotions getting to the French final again and playing Nadal?ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, this is what it's all about. I mean, I've been hoping for this to happen a few weeks and months back. I'm where I want to be and I'm playing well, so, yeah, it's a big, big thrill to play Rafa again the final here.

Q. Can you have a match like that with all the variety of strokes intervening like that on any other surface, or can it be as nice on any other surface as clay?

ROGER FEDERER: Like today, you mean?

Q. Yeah. Something about the clay and the sliding and the movement that makes it maybe the most beautiful tennis when it's played well.

ROGER FEDERER: Look, I don't know. I mean, I think grass makes you come in a little bit more, you know, so you see also more many passing shots and everything. Ball stays nice and low so it's always easier to hit.

Hardcourt is something sort of in between, so clay then comes to the extreme. But I agree that if you have, you know, two good guys playing against each other, you now, that sort of match up well.

So maybe me and GaŽl today I thought was exciting. It's great, how you can dig deep, get back into the point, and you have to construct the whole point from zero again.

So I agree with you. You know, it can get very entertaining, but it can also be tough on the players, you know, because some rallies never end. If there's sort of a bad match you see only errors. That's sort of the bad part about clay at times, I would say.


Q. Novak today observed that Chatrier Court is playing considerably slower than Lenglen court No. Court No. 1, and this favors Nadal. He said it was so much harder to hit winners past him today him. Do you agree that Chatrier is a slower court? And if so, do you think something should be done to make it quicker, perhaps in time for Sunday?

ROGER FEDERER: Honestly, I thought it was quicker than Lenglen, so two different players, two different opinions, you know. So, I mean, it's always hard to tell. I guess today what didn't favor Novak was the wind, as well. I think there was a wind factor, as well.

Rafa, with his margin, is always going to have an easier time in the wind, I would think. But Rafa has been tough on Chatrier, you know. Nobody has beaten him before. I guess that's more the problem than the courts he's played on.


Q. You just said that you played well. Before you, Rafa Nadal who played unbelievable well, said that his match was quite perfect, but he said also maybe to be almost perfect is not enough to beat Federer. So what do you think about yourself? Do you think you're playing almost perfect to beat Nadal, or you need to play better?

ROGER FEDERER: It's going to be a different match, you know. So, I mean, you cannot draw too much out of the matches played so far. He can take more out of the match with Djokovic than I can out of Monfils, you know. Because Rafa is a lefty, you know, that changes the whole dynamics of the match.

So we'll see how it goes, you know. I've been able to get off to good starts in the last few times I've played against Rafa, and I hope I can do the same again on Sunday. I feel I have the right tactics, I have the right game, and I have the fitness to beat him.

You know, I wanted to be in this position, you know, like I told you a long time ago. That is, Rafa again across the net. I think it's the ultimate test on clay. It would be ‑‑ it's so much better to win the French Open by beating him, as well.

It looks good for Sunday, for me anyway.


Q. French people had a lot of hopes on Monfils today. Did you play the match in your head before the game? The match, how it evolved, was it pretty much as you expected it score‑wise and game‑wise? And later, do you think that as the sun was coming down, that a fifth set maybe could not be finished in time? Was there pressure like this over you?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, first, with the weather, I didn't know. I don't know what time it is now, actually. So, no, I was never really worried it was not going to not finish. So that was never the problem. And the first part?


Q. The first part is, did you play the match in your head before? Was the game as you expected it to happen, score‑wise and game‑wise?

ROGER FEDERER: In the way the points were played, yes, this is what I expected. GaŽl is not going to change overnight. I was lucky enough to have played him in Miami and Monaco, so I played him just recently, which I could see, you know, how well he was playing, actually.

I didn't have easy matches against him. He plays from really far back in the court. He has a fantastic serve and great athletic abilities, so I knew that part was going to happen.

It's exactly the way I imagined the match to go, you know. I had to be the one, you know, leading, you know, taking the chances and, you know, mix up my game, and I think I did it very well today.


Q. Especially in light of the fact that you have a new coach, how important are tactics versus just form of the day, that sort of thing? You just said, for instance, tactically you have everything. So where does the coaching or any change of tactics really fit in, if anywhere?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, look, I mean, against Rafa, obviously there is some sort of ‑‑ the way the points are being played. It's normal, you know, because of his forehand. Same with me, you know. If I serve and I come attack with my forehand, points are played in a certain way. You try to make it to go your way, and that's by, you know, choosing the right tactics.

I think maybe three years ago when I played him the first time, you know, in the semifinal here I just ‑‑ I guess I just came in and I thought I could blow him off the court. I didn't expect myself to win necessarily, but I really felt like I had the game ‑‑ you know, by just playing my style of game, you know, I could win. I was very close. I was up a break in the fourth to push it to the fifth set, you know. So it was close, after all.

So just, I think, today over all the years I've been able to improve. That gives me more variety, gives me more opportunities, and, you know, varied more with my tactics. And I think that's why in the end, when two such big guys clash against each other, comes down a lot to who's got the better day.

Yeah, because, I'm the one probably pressing again, you know. It should be entertaining to watch.


Q. When you're second on like that, how closely are you watching what goes on on the court? When you went out there and knew Rafa won and won pretty handily, how did that affect your mentality out there?

ROGER FEDERER: I thought of GaŽl, actually. If he wants to win the French he's got to beat me and Rafa. I didn't necessarily think about me, but...

I enjoyed the match, you know, to be honest, to watch it. You know, it's easier when you play second, because I could enjoy the entire match watching it. If I would have played first, you know, I would have been sitting in press conference, trying to get back to the hotel, and maybe only seen one set.

So by them playing first I saw everything, and I thought Rafa played fantastic for basically the entire time, you know. He should have put him away earlier, you know, but Novak hung in there and got very close.

But I think Rafa was, yeah, was supreme on the day.


Q. I know nothing is 100%, but you said in Toronto in 2004 that you didn't believe in the dropshot. (Laughter.) Have you changed your mind a little bit?

ROGER FEDERER: I guess I have a little bit, you know. No, I mean, look, it's something I always knew that was probably necessary on clay, just to have the option. It doesn't work against everybody, you know.

Because some guys play really close to the baseline. They play shots in a way you can hit a dropshot. There's other guys who play really far behind the baseline, like GaŽl today. I think it's good to mix it up sometimes and have this extra option.

I've been trying to do it for the last three or four years, but it's just something that didn't come very natural to me because I always thought the dropshot was a panic shot, you know. I tried to just end the point early.

But I think this season especially I've been able to use it in a great way. Today it came in handily again, you know, to put GaŽl under pressure. We'll see if I'll use it again against Rafa.


Q. Do you ever feel guilty now when you use it?ROGER FEDERER: No, I feel like it's actually fun, because I'm not missing them in the bottom of the net. I just feel a little bit better about them.


Q. You had the 5‑1 in the first set in Hamburg, 5‑2 in the second set, and at the end you lost that final. ROGER FEDERER: Against whom? Rafa? (laughter.)


Q. Yeah.

ROGER FEDERER: I played many Hamburg finals, that's why.


Q. Yeah, the last Hamburg final. The other one you won it. Did you think about that situation? Did you think about a way to avoid the repetition of such a situation against Nadal?

ROGER FEDERER: Honestly, I prefer to be up 5‑1 and lose it, but it's not going to come back every time, you know, to be pushed up against the wall like that.

He did well to hang in there, you know. Maybe a shot here and there could have changed the whole match around. It was unfortunate, you know, I couldn't at least win a little bit more, you know, and push him a little harder. But I think the match in Hamburg was tough, and hard‑fought. You know, anything could have won there.

Monaco, I think I deserved a set at least, but didn't get it. Look, I haven't thought about it. I just came from winning against Monfils. But I think it's something I just have to keep on doing what I've been doing against Rafa, you know, and then play better on the day.


Q. Do you get a sense, as the years go by and as these meetings in Paris go by, that you do have a better chance this time? As every one has gone by, you've improved your chances? Do you see a much more confident man than even perhaps last year?ROGER FEDERER: I mean, I feel better every year. It's no joke, you know. I really do feel well. I mean, I'm fitter than ever. I mean, how you want to feel on clay, anyway.

Rafa has been, you know, sublime this tournament, you know. He hasn't had any problems whatsoever. It isn't like he's not been improving, you know, so I think it's great what's happenings in the game. We have similar guys always at the very top, and we are testing each other, you know, over and over again.

So I think it's very entertaining. Of course, I believe. I believe very strongly that this is my year. I did the hard work so far, but I think the toughest test is yet to come.


Q. To follow up Tom's question, I saw Starace hitting 12 winning dropshots against Nadal in Hamburg. I'd like to know if you're thinking that they could be effective against Nadal, too, the dropshot, I mean? And the second question is, today most people expected a more balanced first semifinal than the second one. Instead the second one, yours, was probably more balanced. There were break points for Monfils and so on. Were you surprised, too, or did you expect the other way around?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I mean, with the dropshot we'll see how sort of the points are constructed from both ends, you know. Like I said, if Rafa or me, we have length, you cannot hit a dropshot. You need the guy to hit it short to do it. But then when it is hit short, you know, the options open up. This is when you have to take the right decision at the right time. I'll make that decision on the court, and we'll make a call beforehand, you know.

Now with the matches today, I wasn't particularly surprised, you know, that Rafa beat Novak, you know, pretty handily today. I knew that ‑‑ I mean, Rafa is tough to beat here. I mean, I've had it three times in the past, but I got a set off him every time, you know. I think Novak really let his head hang a little bit for quite a while, you know, and Rafa just ripped through him.

So, for me, it was very interesting to see, you know, them play, of course. Because I thought he was much, much closer in Hamburg, where today I didn't think he had a chance, you know.

My match, honestly, I knew it was going to be always tough against Monfils. He stands far back, doesn't make many mistakes, and he's got a great serve. That puts a lot of pressure on you. If you cannot move him around enough it's always going to be hard, so I always try to press and put him on the move.

Unfortunately, I didn't win the second set after being up a set and a break. So it was tough, you know, but I think it was always me who was in control of the match. It was fun. I had a great time.

THE MODERATOR: French questions, please.


Q. One question: Rafa was very impressive in this tournament, but after his defeats in Hamburg, don't you have less pressure for this final?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I don't think what happened before the clay season matters very much. Matches in Hamburg and Monaco were good for both of us. It was good for us to see where we stand with regards to our game. We learned positive and negative things, both of us.

For me it was rather positive even if I lost, because I have had more of a more difficult season than him so far. So for both of us it's a good clay season. He had a fantastic season on clay so far.

At this moment, at this stage, I want to focus on the final. I don't want to think back on what happened. The past is the past. Now I need to believe I can do it.


Q. At the end of this match you showed lots of emotion, so what crossed your mind?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I had a break ball to win, but then he started serving at 220 kilometers per hour and you go into a tiebreak. Honestly, I felt relief I came through. I played extraordinary points and games to make the difference. I was just happy about my performance.

And then five seconds, ten seconds afterwards, yes, I started thinking about another final. That's where I want to be. Great satisfaction.


Q. What did you think about GaŽl Monfils? Was he a surprise to you?

ROGER FEDERER: I have great respect for such a beautiful player. He started off not playing well in the first game, didn't play the first games very well. I took the lead immediately, and then I played a very good first set. I put pressure on him all the time, played very well with my forehand, just the opposite as against GonzŠlez.

So I hoped I would put more pressure on him during the second set, but then I was a break down. That was a bit stupid, because I made lots of mistakes and I almost gave him that game.

But then I started feeling GaŽl was starting to put pressure on me, started playing better and better. At the end, I never felt I was going to lose, but at one stage in the fourth set I felt anything could happen. I had to save many break balls, and this is when you think, Well, anything can happen. This is the danger playing a player playing at home. The crowd is always supporting him. This is why I had more pressure at the end.


Q. It's not very often the entire crowd is against you. Some players like it. Hewitt said he likes it because it's quite motivating. How did you feel about it?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, this is not what I felt. I think they were very fair play. I was playing GaŽl Monfils in a semifinal in Roland Garros, and I really expected the situation to be far more uncomfortable for me.

I was very happy to realize that I also had people supporting me. I knew that in key moments they would make a lot of noise, quite normal, but they were very fair play during the whole match, and it was a great pleasure for me.

I've played in far worse conditions, and it was a pleasure for me today. I also like it when the public shows their emotions, whether for him or for me.


Q. Can you say a few words about the final? Do you feel more confident than the two last years? And if so, why? Can you tell us why you feel more confident this year?ROGER FEDERER: Well, I think Rafa is going to tell you exactly the same thing. I think I'm more confident because we both made progress over the last two years. You find new solutions to win.

Today I have ‑‑ well, I have won many matches because I have more experience and I have a greater variety of shots available, so I have a great chance. I'm very confident for this final, but I guess he is, too, so let's wait and see.


Q. Nadal said...

ROGER FEDERER: You like telling me what the other one said, eh? Okay. I'm ready. Go ahead. What did he say? (laughter.)


Q. Well, he also said that the best Roger he had ever seen on clay was the Roger who played against him in Rome during the final. I wanted to ask you if you agree with that or if you felt you were better during another match?

ROGER FEDERER: I think it was a very close match from the first point to the last one. I think it was 7‑6 in the first set, 7‑6 in the last one, so it was very close. 7‑6 in the last set, it's very close, even if you have match points.

I played a very good match. I was very aggressive. I made very few mistakes on my attacks, on my volley shots, and it's in Hamburg that I managed to dominate him totally.

And then there were other matches that were very close, very ‑‑ in Monaco when we played four hours, tiebreak in the fourth set, and I was leading in the tiebreak. So I think I've played quite a few good matches against him on clay, which is his favorite surface.

So I like this challenge, playing against him on clay, and I really am in a position to win. I'm the only player who managed to win against him on clay, and I hope I'm going to do that again on Sunday.


Q. You said you had fun during the match. During the whole tournament, I thought you were very focused, but almost a bit worried sometimes.

ROGER FEDERER: What do you mean, worried? I don't know. I need to work probably more than in the past, so perhaps I'm not as present with the press and the media as I used to be.

But I'm not 19 anymore, and I'm a bit tired of answering questions. Maybe next year when I'm back I'll do a bit more. I don't know.

But over these two weeks, I wanted to leave the headlines to others, and maybe this is why you feel what you feel. But I'm fine. I play well. I'm happy.

Eden
06-06-2008, 09:26 PM
Dropping 3 sets before the final? Not looking good for Federina:eek:

Have a look at the matches of former players in GS tournaments ;) It's normal to lose a set. And don't bring on the mug era theory: The likes of Becker, Agassi, Sampras have lost sets - and even matches - to players who were the underdog.

Black Adam
06-06-2008, 09:29 PM
Loved the whole DC atmosphere against Federer. Ironically those same people will be going nuts for him on Sunday :rolleyes:

Gael played well and congrats to him for upping his game for the occasion :yeah:

ranaldo
06-06-2008, 09:54 PM
Nothing wrong with loosing a set, it's how he lost that 2nd one. He immediately shanked the forehand. Like he didn't want to handle the pressure. If you watch Ancic's break of serve in the 3rd set, it's exactly what happens: Fed missing by a mile an easy shot. Also he was sluggish, never ran on every ball, wasn't focused, you can't pretend wanting to win the French and then play that poorly...

tealeaves
06-06-2008, 10:09 PM
I hope his crappy performance today was just a camouflage:)

Goodjob Monfils, waiting to see your rise

habibko
06-06-2008, 10:12 PM
It is all huge and evil Higueras-Fed conspiracy . They know they cant beat Nadal in normal way, so they have to fool him to believe that #1 plays complete crap and is not threat to Rafa. It all started in Monaco, when Fed tried how he can play aggressive game on clay - result was positive, 4-0 up , then mastermind Higueras told him to tank - Nadal is not allowed to know how good Fed really is. Conspiracy continued in Hamburg : 5-1 up in first and Oscar-worthy tank again, now Rafa believes that Rogi is the worst and easiest opponent he ever will have in finals, becomes all careless and Fed can catch him off guard. Today performance continues, couple of good games not to lose the match, then ultimate garbage to fool Nadal to believe that Fed is ATP#379 on clay.Poor naive Rafa, he believes he can eat some tasty cheese on Sunday, there is free cheese ,OK, but he has no idea that it is in mousetrap:devil:

:haha: :haha: :haha:

ranaldo
06-06-2008, 10:19 PM
Q. You said you had fun during the match. During the whole tournament, I thought you were very focused, but almost a bit worried sometimes.

ROGER FEDERER: What do you mean, worried? I don't know. I need to work probably more than in the past, so perhaps I'm not as present with the press and the media as I used to be.

But I'm not 19 anymore, and I'm a bit tired of answering questions. Maybe next year when I'm back I'll do a bit more. I don't know.

But over these two weeks, I wanted to leave the headlines to others, and maybe this is why you feel what you feel. But I'm fine. I play well. I'm happy.

The above says a lot about Roger's confidence. He knows he's not playing like he used to, but won't admit it. That's not the way to go if you really want to improve. He was fitter in 2006.

Frederick16
06-06-2008, 10:25 PM
i told a friend of mine today, how good roger has to be that when he is not playing even 75% he still beats everybody.. i hope he will beat rafa sunday dont know how honestly with the level he had these days but he deserves to have all the GS's cause he is really the best player ever!!!

Or Levy
06-06-2008, 11:11 PM
Yesterday, when Wilanders was blabbing on and on in game set and mats about how Gael could really be embarassed, I just KNEW this was going to get ugly.

Poor Roger, as Mats said, he went off to Mirka land (Actually, Mats said La-la land, but same thing) several times during the match. But he pulled through.

Dazzle me on Sunday, Rogi. Not every year the RG final will fall on a holiday and I could watch you on my big screen TV rather on mute in my office :)

Rogiman
06-06-2008, 11:11 PM
I find it weird so many people say today's match was a bad one.

I thought it was great, and it only shows the ridiculous standard Federer is held to.

Today he played an opponent who could have potentially turned that into a complete nightmare for him with a game combining great defense with power and I thought he adjusted his game nicely to win.

Sunday's outcome is beyond doubt, but that doesn't mean Federer sucks.

ranaldo
06-06-2008, 11:36 PM
Please, he played very well in 1st set. But the way he lost the 2nd set and the torrent of seriously unforced errors was quite ugly. Also he should at least chase every ball if he wants a chance in the final. Also he wasn't careful enough at the net at times...

Rogiman
06-06-2008, 11:40 PM
Please, he played very well in 1st set. But the way he lost the 2nd set and the torrent of seriously unforced errors was quite ugly. Also he should at least chase every ball if he wants a chance in the final. Also he wasn't careful enough at the net at times...Still he made the vast majority of the volleyes and beautifully so.

he's not chasing every ball, his game has never been about that, and yes - when you play attacking tennis (which he obviously did today) you are bound to make errors. 57/30 on clay against a great defender seems like a very good W/UE ratio to me.

Corey Feldman
06-06-2008, 11:45 PM
Yes Rogiman

also, have you noticed how all the players he's facing thesedays are playing out of their minds against him all of a sudden

as Nole and Rafa get all the 'rollover' opponents

Rogiman
06-06-2008, 11:47 PM
Yes Rogiman

also, have you noticed how all the players he's facing thesedays are playing out of their minds against him all of a sudden

as Nole and Rafa get all the 'rollover' opponents:lol:

No opponent would have been a tough one for Nadal this year, although Verdasco and Almugro really stunk the place.

Corey Feldman
06-07-2008, 12:02 AM
Almagro had other plans .. i heard he was begging ppl at the ATP to be the one who presents the trophy on Sunday afternoon - and that was before the match started

calvinhobbes
06-07-2008, 12:22 AM
Monfils is a rubber player. Impossible to destroy him. When you think you have crushed him entirely, he rebounds and regains his natural shape. When you play against a rubber guy, you must not try so hard (as Pics intended), because you could get badly injured. That´s why I think Roger played a good match. A gentle one, as it were. It goes better with his style and in no part of the contest we found the crunching anxiety of the Rafa.

ranaldo
06-07-2008, 12:35 AM
I know chasing balls has never been his game but he should at least try to on very important points and not throw in a half hearted effort.
Of course I hope he can finally win this thing but he looks very shaky to me: all the errors in that 2nd one where very uncharacteristic and had nothing to do with him being an attacker: it was a mix of him panicking all of a sudden, getting tight or loosing focus. It's not like Montfils was playing a whole lot better. Some mistakes were also due to lack of defensive form: his running forehand is something that he used extensively a lot in the past and usually enables him to turn defense into offense but this year it's a weakness.

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 12:35 AM
I find it weird so many people say today's match was a bad one.

I thought it was great, and it only shows the ridiculous standard Federer is held to.

Today he played an opponent who could have potentially turned that into a complete nightmare for him with a game combining great defense with power and I thought he adjusted his game nicely to win.

Sunday's outcome is beyond doubt, but that doesn't mean Federer sucks.

Very friendly words about Fed, alas, I just don't feel able to agree with them.

First - what an AWESOME run by Monfils at RG this year! :worship: :hug:
All credits where credits are due, no less.

But... eh... this guy is ranked #59, and giving Teh Mighty Fed all THAT much of trouble? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif
I can't help myself but think he's no less than TOAST tomorrow, even if Raf playes right-handed and one-legged. :help:

Please have mercy on Rogi coming Sunday, Raf, and at least grant him a few games... :tape: :hug:

Rogiman
06-07-2008, 12:40 AM
Very friendly words about Fed, alas, I just don't feel able to agree with them.

First - what an AWESOME run by Monfils at RG this year! :worship:
All credits where credits are due, no less.

But... eh... this guy is ranked #59, and giving Teh Mighty Fed all THAT much of trouble? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick001.gif
I can't help myself but think he's no less than TOAST tomorrow, even if Raf playes right-handed and one-legged. :help:

Please have mercy on Rogi coming Sunday, Raf, and at least grant him a few games... :tape:Did you watch the match, or just the ranking next to the players' names? :rolleyes:

What was Tsonga's ranking prior to the AO? Do you really believe Monfils troubled Federer today by playing like world #59? :rolleyes:

Nadal will win, no one claimed otherwise, but Fed plays much better on clay than previous years.

Rogiman
06-07-2008, 12:42 AM
I know chasing balls has never been his game but he should at least try to on very important points and not throw in a half hearted effort.
Of course I hope he can finally win this thing but he looks very shaky to me: all the errors in that 2nd one where very uncharacteristic and had nothing to do with him being an attacker: it was a mix of him panicking all of a sudden, getting tight or loosing focus. It's not like Montfils was playing a whole lot better. Some mistakes were also due to lack of defensive form: his running forehand is something that he used extensively a lot in the past and usually enables him to turn defense into offense but this year it's a weakness.Droping his level in patches is actually very typical in his matches, not uncharacteristic at all, and I thought the forehand was better this tourney than it's been in a long time.

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 12:47 AM
Did you watch the match, or just the ranking next to the players' names? :rolleyes:

Come on, you know me better than to accuse me of this kind of insinuations.
At least I hope so. :shrug:

What was Tsonga's ranking prior to the AO? Do you really believe Monfils troubled Federer today by playing like world #59? :rolleyes:

He obviously didn't, he played a lot better than his ranking suggests (didn't I say so???), but that doesn't mean I should hold back my criticism at Fed at all. I'm no tard, I thought you might have known that by now.

Nadal will win, no one claimed otherwise, but Fed plays much better on clay than previous years.

So he did?... but can you explain his loss to Stepanek, then? Or is that fellow suddenly a Clay Court specialist (I know better than that, btw)?
Fact is, Fed seems to be more vulnerable this year than the previous years, even if he seems to be playing 'better'. Just my opinion here.

Rogiman
06-07-2008, 12:53 AM
So he did?... but can you explain his loss to Stepanek, then? Or is that fellow suddenly a Clay Court specialist (I know better than that, btw)?
Fact is, Fed seems to be more vulnerable this year than the previous years, even if he seems to be playing 'better'. Just my opinion here.Not every defeat requires explanation. Radek went for a very unique gameplan and executed it to perfection. Losses like that are likely to happen and even moreso in the best of 3 format. Guga had that kind of losses at his peak, but never when it mattered, and here we are in the final again.

Fed started this year terribly for his standards and had some shocking losses, but at this point he plays some of his best claycourt tennis.

The whole 'vulnerable' rubbish is nothing more than cheap populism in the context of this discussion.

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 01:05 AM
Not every defeat requires explanation. Radek went for a very unique gameplan and executed it to perfection. Losses like that are likely to happen and even moreso in the best of 3 format. Guga had that kind of losses at his peak, but never when it mattered, and here we are in the final again.

If you just try and look up my posts when Stepanek defeated Fed, you might well discover that I was one of the few people around acknowledging that Fed's loss had not so much to do with Fed playing badly, but rather with Stepanek playing fantastic in that match. He did brilliantly, executed his gameplan well, and was the deserved winner, no less.

Fed started this year terribly for his standards and had some shocking losses, but at this point he plays some of his best claycourt tennis.

The whole 'vulnerable' rubbish is nothing more than cheap populism in the context of this discussion.

That's what you think - opinions are like **sholes, everyone's got one, and YES, that includes me. :p

I still have faith in Roger to be able to play his best (and I am happy to see him reach just another Grand Slam Final, let that be clear! :worship:), but at the same time I have to admit I am worried about that great number of shanks and UEs of his lately. That's not trolling, that's not hatred, it's only naming the facts as they are. At least IMHO.

RonE
06-07-2008, 01:13 AM
points defended

fuck the final

just waiting for grass now

Yeah thats pretty much how I feel :shrug:

We all know whats going to happen :zzz:

luie
06-07-2008, 01:36 AM
Good job fed getting to the final...It was unexpected a couple of months ago....
BUT the result on sunday will never be in doubt...Still I'am happy & hopeful for the rest of the season...

Dirk
06-07-2008, 01:44 AM
If you just try and look up my posts when Stepanek defeated Fed, you might well discover that I was one of the few people around acknowledging that Fed's loss had not so much to do with Fed playing badly, but rather with Stepanek playing fantastic in that match. He did brilliantly, executed his gameplan well, and was the deserved winner, no less.



That's what you think - opinions are like **sholes, everyone's got one, and YES, that includes me. :p

I still have faith in Roger to be able to play his best (and I am happy to see him reach just another Grand Slam Final, let that be clear! :worship:), but at the same time I have to admit I am worried about that great number of shanks and UEs of his lately. That's not trolling, that's not hatred, it's only naming the facts as they are. At least IMHO.

If he continues the shank and UEs during the grass season then I will worry unless he walks away winning Wimbledon.

littleash
06-07-2008, 01:46 AM
win the trophy now, roger :fiery:

ranaldo
06-07-2008, 02:08 AM
Well let's see what happens at Wimbledon, that's where it's gonna be interesting. He won't have the excuse of clay.

Pedigree
06-07-2008, 02:29 AM
If you just try and look up my posts when Stepanek defeated Fed, you might well discover that I was one of the few people around acknowledging that Fed's loss had not so much to do with Fed playing badly, but rather with Stepanek playing fantastic in that match. He did brilliantly, executed his gameplan well, and was the deserved winner, no less.



That's what you think - opinions are like **sholes, everyone's got one, and YES, that includes me. :p

I still have faith in Roger to be able to play his best (and I am happy to see him reach just another Grand Slam Final, let that be clear! :worship:), but at the same time I have to admit I am worried about that great number of shanks and UEs of his lately. That's not trolling, that's not hatred, it's only naming the facts as they are. At least IMHO.

:yeah: one of the top posters on this site.

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 02:32 AM
:yeah: one of the top posters on this site.

Thanks a lot, but do know - I am not worthy... :hug:

FedFan_2007
06-07-2008, 02:40 AM
Hey Karin. :wavey:

FedFan_2007
06-07-2008, 02:41 AM
Well let's see what happens at Wimbledon, that's where it's gonna be interesting. He won't have the excuse of clay.

The 5-time defending Wimbledon champion doesn't need to explain why he can't win it again. :devil::worship::worship:

krystlel
06-07-2008, 03:24 AM
It was an exciting match, the outcome didn't seem certain until it finished and I had the feeling that Monfils might have been able to take it to five sets. The tight scoreline had both to do with Federer being a bit off his game and Monfils playing more aggressively than he did the rest of the tournament.

Federer played a great first set, but seemed a lot more ordinary after that. He dumped a lot of easy volleys into the net, I particularly like the forehand volley that he managed to hit into the net when he was right on top of the net. Frustratingly Monfils didn't take advantage of the two break points he got from that, I thought he had more chances to take the fourth set than Federer did but Federer did step it up a bit late in that set.

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-07-2008, 03:29 AM
federer is playing creepy

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 03:38 AM
federer is playing creepy

If he'd be playing creepy I'd at least think he'd still be able to make it a match coming Sunday...

Oh, I get you mean... crappy??? ;)

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-07-2008, 03:45 AM
i meant he is not playing good

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 03:49 AM
i meant he is not playing good

That's CRAPPY. :D

JimmyV
06-07-2008, 03:53 AM
Thank god the clay season is ending.

Metis
06-07-2008, 03:53 AM
federer is playing creepy

If he'd be playing creepy I'd at least think he'd still be able to make it a match coming Sunday...

Oh, I get you mean... crappy??? ;)


or 'Federer is plain creepy'


Federer... :scared: :bolt:


:p

tennizen
06-07-2008, 03:55 AM
or 'Federer is plain creepy'


Federer... :scared: :bolt:


:p

Of course, look at his arm:lol:

Metis
06-07-2008, 04:09 AM
Of course, look at his arm:lol:

:haha: spot on! ...and let's not forget the killer smile :p :D

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 04:33 AM
:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

dsingh7
06-07-2008, 05:19 AM
It is all huge and evil Higueras-Fed conspiracy . They know they cant beat Nadal in normal way, so they have to fool him to believe that #1 plays complete crap and is not threat to Rafa. It all started in Monaco, when Fed tried how he can play aggressive game on clay - result was positive, 4-0 up , then mastermind Higueras told him to tank - Nadal is not allowed to know how good Fed really is. Conspiracy continued in Hamburg : 5-1 up in first and Oscar-worthy tank again, now Rafa believes that Rogi is the worst and easiest opponent he ever will have in finals, becomes all careless and Fed can catch him off guard. Today performance continues, couple of good games not to lose the match, then ultimate garbage to fool Nadal to believe that Fed is ATP#379 on clay.Poor naive Rafa, he believes he can eat some tasty cheese on Sunday, there is free cheese ,OK, but he has no idea that it is in mousetrap:devil:
I agree with you...this must be a master mind plan of Higueras-Fed...seems like Fed does not want Rafa to say 'he beat me in MC/Hamburg so he is the Fav' ...i suspect Fed tried few thing with Nadal...getting a lead of 5-1...coming form behind in 2nd set...As he said this year might be his...if and only if he can execute the game plan over 3 sets.

Polikarpov
06-07-2008, 05:33 AM
I cringed whenever Roger came in to the net. Does anybody have a tally of how many easy volleys Roger dumped straight into the net?

Roger, how can you win a game on Sunday playing like this?

Chiseller
06-07-2008, 05:58 AM
Transcribed Interview

Q. Kind of same time, same place, same opponent, same emotions getting to the French final again and playing Nadal?

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, this is what it's all about. I mean, I've been hoping for this to happen a few weeks and months back. I'm where I want to be and I'm playing well, so, yeah, it's a big, big thrill to play Rafa again the final here.

Q. Can you have a match like that with all the variety of strokes intervening like that on any other surface, or can it be as nice on any other surface as clay?

ROGER FEDERER: Like today, you mean?

Q. Yeah. Something about the clay and the sliding and the movement that makes it maybe the most beautiful tennis when it's played well.

ROGER FEDERER: Look, I don't know. I mean, I think grass makes you come in a little bit more, you know, so you see also more many passing shots and everything. Ball stays nice and low so it's always easier to hit.

Hardcourt is something sort of in between, so clay then comes to the extreme. But I agree that if you have, you know, two good guys playing against each other, you now, that sort of match up well.

So maybe me and GaŽl today I thought was exciting. It's great, how you can dig deep, get back into the point, and you have to construct the whole point from zero again.

So I agree with you. You know, it can get very entertaining, but it can also be tough on the players, you know, because some rallies never end. If there's sort of a bad match you see only errors. That's sort of the bad part about clay at times, I would say.

Q. Novak today observed that Chatrier Court is playing considerably slower than Lenglen court No. Court No. 1, and this favors Nadal. He said it was so much harder to hit winners past him today him. Do you agree that Chatrier is a slower court? And if so, do you think something should be done to make it quicker, perhaps in time for Sunday?

ROGER FEDERER: Honestly, I thought it was quicker than Lenglen, so two different players, two different opinions, you know. So, I mean, it's always hard to tell. I guess today what didn't favor Novak was the wind, as well. I think there was a wind factor, as well.

Rafa, with his margin, is always going to have an easier time in the wind, I would think. But Rafa has been tough on Chatrier, you know. Nobody has beaten him before. I guess that's more the problem than the courts he's played on.

Q. You just said that you played well. Before you, Rafa Nadal who played unbelievable well, said that his match was quite perfect, but he said also maybe to be almost perfect is not enough to beat Federer. So what do you think about yourself? Do you think you're playing almost perfect to beat Nadal, or you need to play better?

ROGER FEDERER: It's going to be a different match, you know. So, I mean, you cannot draw too much out of the matches played so far. He can take more out of the match with Djokovic than I can out of Monfils, you know. Because Rafa is a lefty, you know, that changes the whole dynamics of the match.

So we'll see how it goes, you know. I've been able to get off to good starts in the last few times I've played against Rafa, and I hope I can do the same again on Sunday. I feel I have the right tactics, I have the right game, and I have the fitness to beat him.

You know, I wanted to be in this position, you know, like I told you a long time ago. That is, Rafa again across the net. I think it's the ultimate test on clay. It would be ‑‑ it's so much better to win the French Open by beating him, as well.

It looks good for Sunday, for me anyway.

Q. French people had a lot of hopes on Monfils today. Did you play the match in your head before the game? The match, how it evolved, was it pretty much as you expected it score‑wise and game‑wise? And later, do you think that as the sun was coming down, that a fifth set maybe could not be finished in time? Was there pressure like this over you?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, first, with the weather, I didn't know. I don't know what time it is now, actually. So, no, I was never really worried it was not going to not finish. So that was never the problem. And the first part?

Q. The first part is, did you play the match in your head before? Was the game as you expected it to happen, score‑wise and game‑wise?

ROGER FEDERER: In the way the points were played, yes, this is what I expected. GaŽl is not going to change overnight. I was lucky enough to have played him in Miami and Monaco, so I played him just recently, which I could see, you know, how well he was playing, actually.

I didn't have easy matches against him. He plays from really far back in the court. He has a fantastic serve and great athletic abilities, so I knew that part was going to happen.

It's exactly the way I imagined the match to go, you know. I had to be the one, you know, leading, you know, taking the chances and, you know, mix up my game, and I think I did it very well today.

Q. Especially in light of the fact that you have a new coach, how important are tactics versus just form of the day, that sort of thing? You just said, for instance, tactically you have everything. So where does the coaching or any change of tactics really fit in, if anywhere?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, look, I mean, against Rafa, obviously there is some sort of ‑‑ the way the points are being played. It's normal, you know, because of his forehand. Same with me, you know. If I serve and I come attack with my forehand, points are played in a certain way. You try to make it to go your way, and that's by, you know, choosing the right tactics.

I think maybe three years ago when I played him the first time, you know, in the semifinal here I just ‑‑ I guess I just came in and I thought I could blow him off the court. I didn't expect myself to win necessarily, but I really felt like I had the game ‑‑ you know, by just playing my style of game, you know, I could win. I was very close. I was up a break in the fourth to push it to the fifth set, you know. So it was close, after all.

So just, I think, today over all the years I've been able to improve. That gives me more variety, gives me more opportunities, and, you know, varied more with my tactics. And I think that's why in the end, when two such big guys clash against each other, comes down a lot to who's got the better day.

Yeah, because, I'm the one probably pressing again, you know. It should be entertaining to watch.

Q. When you're second on like that, how closely are you watching what goes on on the court? When you went out there and knew Rafa won and won pretty handily, how did that affect your mentality out there?

ROGER FEDERER: I thought of GaŽl, actually. If he wants to win the French he's got to beat me and Rafa. I didn't necessarily think about me, but...

I enjoyed the match, you know, to be honest, to watch it. You know, it's easier when you play second, because I could enjoy the entire match watching it. If I would have played first, you know, I would have been sitting in press conference, trying to get back to the hotel, and maybe only seen one set.

So by them playing first I saw everything, and I thought Rafa played fantastic for basically the entire time, you know. He should have put him away earlier, you know, but Novak hung in there and got very close.

But I think Rafa was, yeah, was supreme on the day.

Q. I know nothing is 100%, but you said in Toronto in 2004 that you didn't believe in the dropshot. (Laughter.) Have you changed your mind a little bit?

ROGER FEDERER: I guess I have a little bit, you know. No, I mean, look, it's something I always knew that was probably necessary on clay, just to have the option. It doesn't work against everybody, you know.

Because some guys play really close to the baseline. They play shots in a way you can hit a dropshot. There's other guys who play really far behind the baseline, like GaŽl today. I think it's good to mix it up sometimes and have this extra option.

I've been trying to do it for the last three or four years, but it's just something that didn't come very natural to me because I always thought the dropshot was a panic shot, you know. I tried to just end the point early.

But I think this season especially I've been able to use it in a great way. Today it came in handily again, you know, to put GaŽl under pressure. We'll see if I'll use it again against Rafa.

Q. Do you ever feel guilty now when you use it?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I feel like it's actually fun, because I'm not missing them in the bottom of the net. I just feel a little bit better about them.

Q. You had the 5‑1 in the first set in Hamburg, 5‑2 in the second set, and at the end you lost that final.

ROGER FEDERER: Against whom? Rafa? (laughter.)

Q. Yeah.

ROGER FEDERER: I played many Hamburg finals, that's why.

Q. Yeah, the last Hamburg final. The other one you won it. Did you think about that situation? Did you think about a way to avoid the repetition of such a situation against Nadal?

ROGER FEDERER: Honestly, I prefer to be up 5‑1 and lose it, but it's not going to come back every time, you know, to be pushed up against the wall like that.

He did well to hang in there, you know. Maybe a shot here and there could have changed the whole match around. It was unfortunate, you know, I couldn't at least win a little bit more, you know, and push him a little harder. But I think the match in Hamburg was tough, and hard‑fought. You know, anything could have won there.

Monaco, I think I deserved a set at least, but didn't get it. Look, I haven't thought about it. I just came from winning against Monfils. But I think it's something I just have to keep on doing what I've been doing against Rafa, you know, and then play better on the day.

Q. Do you get a sense, as the years go by and as these meetings in Paris go by, that you do have a better chance this time? As every one has gone by, you've improved your chances? Do you see a much more confident man than even perhaps last year?

ROGER FEDERER: I mean, I feel better every year. It's no joke, you know. I really do feel well. I mean, I'm fitter than ever. I mean, how you want to feel on clay, anyway.

Rafa has been, you know, sublime this tournament, you know. He hasn't had any problems whatsoever. It isn't like he's not been improving, you know, so I think it's great what's happenings in the game. We have similar guys always at the very top, and we are testing each other, you know, over and over again.

So I think it's very entertaining. Of course, I believe. I believe very strongly that this is my year. I did the hard work so far, but I think the toughest test is yet to come.

Q. To follow up Tom's question, I saw Starace hitting 12 winning dropshots against Nadal in Hamburg. I'd like to know if you're thinking that they could be effective against Nadal, too, the dropshot, I mean? And the second question is, today most people expected a more balanced first semifinal than the second one. Instead the second one, yours, was probably more balanced. There were break points for Monfils and so on. Were you surprised, too, or did you expect the other way around?

ROGER FEDERER: No, I mean, with the dropshot we'll see how sort of the points are constructed from both ends, you know. Like I said, if Rafa or me, we have length, you cannot hit a dropshot. You need the guy to hit it short to do it. But then when it is hit short, you know, the options open up. This is when you have to take the right decision at the right time. I'll make that decision on the court, and we'll make a call beforehand, you know.

Now with the matches today, I wasn't particularly surprised, you know, that Rafa beat Novak, you know, pretty handily today. I knew that ‑‑ I mean, Rafa is tough to beat here. I mean, I've had it three times in the past, but I got a set off him every time, you know. I think Novak really let his head hang a little bit for quite a while, you know, and Rafa just ripped through him.

So, for me, it was very interesting to see, you know, them play, of course. Because I thought he was much, much closer in Hamburg, where today I didn't think he had a chance, you know.

My match, honestly, I knew it was going to be always tough against Monfils. He stands far back, doesn't make many mistakes, and he's got a great serve. That puts a lot of pressure on you. If you cannot move him around enough it's always going to be hard, so I always try to press and put him on the move.

Unfortunately, I didn't win the second set after being up a set and a break. So it was tough, you know, but I think it was always me who was in control of the match. It was fun. I had a great time.

THE MODERATOR: French questions, please.

Q. One question: Rafa was very impressive in this tournament, but after his defeats in Hamburg, don't you have less pressure for this final?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I don't think what happened before the clay season matters very much. Matches in Hamburg and Monaco were good for both of us. It was good for us to see where we stand with regards to our game. We learned positive and negative things, both of us.

For me it was rather positive even if I lost, because I have had more of a more difficult season than him so far. So for both of us it's a good clay season. He had a fantastic season on clay so far.

At this moment, at this stage, I want to focus on the final. I don't want to think back on what happened. The past is the past. Now I need to believe I can do it.

Q. At the end of this match you showed lots of emotion, so what crossed your mind?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I had a break ball to win, but then he started serving at 220 kilometers per hour and you go into a tiebreak. Honestly, I felt relief I came through. I played extraordinary points and games to make the difference. I was just happy about my performance.

And then five seconds, ten seconds afterwards, yes, I started thinking about another final. That's where I want to be. Great satisfaction.

Q. What did you think about GaŽl Monfils? Was he a surprise to you?

ROGER FEDERER: I have great respect for such a beautiful player. He started off not playing well in the first game, didn't play the first games very well. I took the lead immediately, and then I played a very good first set. I put pressure on him all the time, played very well with my forehand, just the opposite as against GonzŠlez.

So I hoped I would put more pressure on him during the second set, but then I was a break down. That was a bit stupid, because I made lots of mistakes and I almost gave him that game.

But then I started feeling GaŽl was starting to put pressure on me, started playing better and better. At the end, I never felt I was going to lose, but at one stage in the fourth set I felt anything could happen. I had to save many break balls, and this is when you think, Well, anything can happen. This is the danger playing a player playing at home. The crowd is always supporting him. This is why I had more pressure at the end.

Q. It's not very often the entire crowd is against you. Some players like it. Hewitt said he likes it because it's quite motivating. How did you feel about it?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, this is not what I felt. I think they were very fair play. I was playing GaŽl Monfils in a semifinal in Roland Garros, and I really expected the situation to be far more uncomfortable for me.

I was very happy to realize that I also had people supporting me. I knew that in key moments they would make a lot of noise, quite normal, but they were very fair play during the whole match, and it was a great pleasure for me.

I've played in far worse conditions, and it was a pleasure for me today. I also like it when the public shows their emotions, whether for him or for me.

Q. Can you say a few words about the final? Do you feel more confident than the two last years? And if so, why? Can you tell us why you feel more confident this year?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I think Rafa is going to tell you exactly the same thing. I think I'm more confident because we both made progress over the last two years. You find new solutions to win.

Today I have ‑‑ well, I have won many matches because I have more experience and I have a greater variety of shots available, so I have a great chance. I'm very confident for this final, but I guess he is, too, so let's wait and see.

Q. Nadal said...

ROGER FEDERER: You like telling me what the other one said, eh? Okay. I'm ready. Go ahead. What did he say? (laughter.)

Q. Well, he also said that the best Roger he had ever seen on clay was the Roger who played against him in Rome during the final. I wanted to ask you if you agree with that or if you felt you were better during another match?

ROGER FEDERER: I think it was a very close match from the first point to the last one. I think it was 7‑6 in the first set, 7‑6 in the last one, so it was very close. 7‑6 in the last set, it's very close, even if you have match points.

I played a very good match. I was very aggressive. I made very few mistakes on my attacks, on my volley shots, and it's in Hamburg that I managed to dominate him totally.

And then there were other matches that were very close, very ‑‑ in Monaco when we played four hours, tiebreak in the fourth set, and I was leading in the tiebreak. So I think I've played quite a few good matches against him on clay, which is his favorite surface.

So I like this challenge, playing against him on clay, and I really am in a position to win. I'm the only player who managed to win against him on clay, and I hope I'm going to do that again on Sunday.

Q. You said you had fun during the match. During the whole tournament, I thought you were very focused, but almost a bit worried sometimes.

ROGER FEDERER: What do you mean, worried? I don't know. I need to work probably more than in the past, so perhaps I'm not as present with the press and the media as I used to be.

But I'm not 19 anymore, and I'm a bit tired of answering questions. Maybe next year when I'm back I'll do a bit more. I don't know.

But over these two weeks, I wanted to leave the headlines to others, and maybe this is why you feel what you feel. But I'm fine. I play well. I'm happy.

cardio
06-07-2008, 06:11 AM
I agree with you...this must be a master mind plan of Higueras-Fed...seems like Fed does not want Rafa to say 'he beat me in MC/Hamburg so he is the Fav' ...i suspect Fed tried few thing with Nadal...getting a lead of 5-1...coming form behind in 2nd set...As he said this year might be his...if and only if he can execute the game plan over 3 sets.
Well it wasnt exactly dead serious post, more like fedfan wet dream, but who knows, all tricks are possible in tennis:) We even saw Rafa taking trick timout in Hamburg and running like bunny after it, so whatever helps to win is good enough to use it.It is bloody war there, Federer is Napoleon and it depends on him whether next battle will be Austerlitz or Waterloo:)

JediFed
06-07-2008, 06:18 AM
What do you mean the clay season is over?

The biggest clay tournament of the season is still to come.

Or do you not consider green clay to be true clay? :confused:

Knightmace
06-07-2008, 06:57 AM
Fed better play way better in the finals.

Lucinda
06-07-2008, 07:07 AM
I fell asleep after the first boring set, so I'm glad to see Monfils made a match of it in the end :)

Di-marat
06-07-2008, 08:43 AM
Does any one guard Thierry Champion mouth and Sign languages during Gael's matches? There was a warning given to Monfils and his coach during the Lubricic match for coaching. Gael argued that he can't see his coach from where he is. It's true that Lubricic was flat footed, but every time Gael is using his racket as his cane, blowing in deep trouble he bounces back to beat his adversary even when he has no breath and playing bad. On Eurosport French the commentators said that, "a lot of coaching is going on and Gael is doing good". I'd like Gael before, he is from my town and, his father coaches my daughter, but i observe that he and his coach communicates too much during matches this is too visible, unfair to other players especially in Roland Garros. The crowd did not help him either against a Federer who played his worst match, Gael had to attend to the crowd to make Hollywood debut , and work on his match to win the important points, while sliding and diving in hurting himself stupidly, the pressure was to strong. He had all his opportuny to take the match from R.. F ) it's a shame. French spectators should allow Gael to do his thing, but they were all anxious, it did work against Lubricic and Ferrer but he missed Federer. It's unfortunate, Champion must help Gael by keeping his mouth shout and allowing Gael to express himself in tournements he is a professionnal player and a grown man. Also i don't like the way Gael handles his game, i find it too girly although he uses Blake as his mentor, he must improve on his technics, pamper himself and change all this monkeyness into a more confident and positive person there he'll stop loosing important matches to players who played as bad as Federer did on court today.

Forehander
06-07-2008, 08:48 AM
Federer obviously played badly on purpose during this match so he may surprise Nadal in the final.

Beat
06-07-2008, 03:23 PM
Piggy is going to **** FedMug on Sunday.

using the words "Piggy" "****" and "FedMug" in an MTF-thread: can it get any more unoriginal that this?

Federerhingis
06-07-2008, 07:06 PM
Roddick winning Wimbledon? :lol:

I know poor Roddick sucks returning serve among other issues, even the grass does not help him much, where taking the ball early helps on the return of serve. His last chance was in 2004 when he had Federer unnerved. Now it's not only Roger who can and will beat him at the all england, the courts are a lot slower too since '04.

Given a good draw be should at least make the quarters. His serve alone can get him there. He's got guts too and never gives up, although against Gasquet he looked really hopeless after losing the 2-1 set advantage.