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RG 08 SF: Nadal whips Djokovic 6-4 6-2 7-6(3)

RogandyFan
06-06-2008, 02:04 PM
Not the dream semis I expected. Noel's shot isn't working

LinkMage
06-06-2008, 02:05 PM
:haha: @ the clowns who thought Fakervic would trouble Rafito.

rocketassist
06-06-2008, 02:05 PM
Too good from the clay king, hand him the title now.

Djokovic showed some flashes like he did in the first set of last year's semi, but there was no stopping Nadal.

The gulf is as wide as it's ever been.

helgagonzalez
06-06-2008, 02:05 PM
Vamos Nadal!!!

Daniel
06-06-2008, 02:06 PM
Well nothing that i didnt expect.

jasmin
06-06-2008, 02:06 PM
Good for Nadal. Get to keep that dude from his ranking for a minute.

I am surprised with all the talk of Djokovic saying he's ready for Nadal. I expected some tight sets.

bokehlicious
06-06-2008, 02:06 PM
No golden slam :sad:

Daniel
06-06-2008, 02:07 PM
Nadal too good on clay for the clown.

arm
06-06-2008, 02:07 PM
Nadal :worship:

Nole :worship::inlove: clay season is over for you... The best is yet to come. :devil:

Sunset of Age
06-06-2008, 02:07 PM
FANTASTIC job, Rafa! :worship:

At first I thought it would be a complete beatdown, but Djoko did well in the third set, have to give him that.

Rafa defends #2 ranking! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Montego
06-06-2008, 02:07 PM
If not the third set this would be the worst semifinal in the history of tennis.

Naide
06-06-2008, 02:07 PM
Bam bam bamos

dam0dred
06-06-2008, 02:07 PM
Vamos! :)

Petrovic
06-06-2008, 02:07 PM
Congrats Nadal, deserved win !
Joker serve fell apart and he gave up !

JediFed
06-06-2008, 02:07 PM
Toast!

Djokovic has to get to number 2 before he can get to number one. :devil:

adee-gee
06-06-2008, 02:07 PM
Good job Rafa :yeah:

Nice fight from Nole in the 3rd, I thought it'd be a romp.

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 02:08 PM
The gulf between the 2 was large in the first 2 sets - but in the third, Djokovic was the better player. He should have really taken that set point he had at 6-5 in the third, the match could have been so interesting.
Amazing to see Novak's family getting happy after he came so close to wnning - but he lost. :lol:

scarecrows
06-06-2008, 02:08 PM
Roger, you'd better lose to Monfils than getting your ass kicked like this

KitinovRules
06-06-2008, 02:08 PM
Faker will win the Golden Slam this year. :haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:


It should have ended 6:2 in the third set. Rafa turned the pedall off from the gas.

It deserves the title: Murder in Paris.

Brutal from Nadal.

Laba
06-06-2008, 02:09 PM
Good performance, Rafa... but you really should have taken that third set 6-2. :)

The happy-sad that Novak's family experiences towards the end of the last set was pretty funny. :p

tennizen
06-06-2008, 02:09 PM
:woohoo::banana: I will watch the match now.

scarecrows
06-06-2008, 02:09 PM
Joker serve fell apart and he gave up !

when? when he came back from a double break down?

leng jai
06-06-2008, 02:09 PM
Fakervic should get a standing ovation and a trophy for not retiring.

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 02:09 PM
when? when he came back from a double break down?
Had a set point - choked like hell, and then choked even more in the tie-break.

elessar
06-06-2008, 02:09 PM
nice fight in the third set by Djokovic almost makes up for his attitude in the first two and a half sets.

Rafa too good as always, probably his year to win RG without losing a set

habibko
06-06-2008, 02:09 PM
expected straights, although most predicitions thought the first set would be what happened in the third, oh well..

Rafa :worship:

Lucinda
06-06-2008, 02:10 PM
There were some good shots, but all together a disappointing showing from Djokovic. Oh well... Vamos Rafa!!!

Branimir
06-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Beast Nadal on clay. No one can't touch him.

Apemant
06-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Too good from Nadal. That last point was an absolute cracker. :worship:

Kudos to Nole for giving a fight when all seemed lost at *3-0 in the third. Great all-or-nothing fight, even gave some trouble to Nadal.

Anyway, for me it's curious that this is very similar scoreline to 2006 SF against Ljubo. 64 62 76. Since Nole >> Ljubo, I guess it's a safe assumption that Nadal 2008 >> Nadal 2006.

Impressive performance from the clay god. I expect a similar one-way street Sunday, no matter who's on the other side. :crying2:

Petrovic
06-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Bring on HC season !

Deivid23
06-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Too good from Rafa, specially the first two sets, well done u fucking animal :lol:

Congrats to Nole as well, he played well and he made Rafa work hard in the last set

Lee
06-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Since it's not on TV here I have to rely on RG Radio. Great match from Nadal. :yeah:

At least Djokovic won more games than Rafa's previous opponents. :lol: and forced Nadal to play his first TB this year in RG. ;)

Montego
06-06-2008, 02:11 PM
Fakervic should get a standing ovation and a trophy for not retiring.


That's what I was thinking too !

NinaNina19
06-06-2008, 02:11 PM
Nole :sad: :hug: . I hate Rafa.

Shabazza
06-06-2008, 02:11 PM
If not the third set this would be the worst semifinal in the history of tennis.

Just shows how little you know about tennis.

Good job Nadal and great fight from Novak, a pity he couldn't convert his SP.

danielmom
06-06-2008, 02:11 PM
Expected result!

Give the trophy to Nadal now and lets move on to the Grass season.

KitinovRules
06-06-2008, 02:12 PM
Fakervic should get a standing ovation and a trophy for not retiring.
:haha::haha:
Quite true, actually.
I thought that he was close to that after the second set.

Viken01
06-06-2008, 02:12 PM
there only ONE smiley to express this : :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowd own::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

zcess81
06-06-2008, 02:12 PM
Too good from Nadal, as expected. Shame that Nole didn't take advantage of the set point in the 3rd to take the match to the 4th, but even is he did the final outcome would have been the same. Nadal is just too good on clay for ANYONE right now...next on the menu is Swiss cheese...time for Nadal to drill a few more holes.

Well, the worst part of the season is over for Novak...time for grass and hard courts :)

tennizen
06-06-2008, 02:12 PM
Too good from Rafa, specially the first two sets, well done u fucking animal :lol:

Congrats to Nole as well, he played well but he made Rafa work hard in the last set

Do you still think Nole can beat Nadal at RG:p

JimmyV
06-06-2008, 02:12 PM
I fully expected a retirement when he was down in the third set. Why lose when you can retire and say you were in control of the match the whole time?

anon57
06-06-2008, 02:12 PM
Djokovic was outplayed and outclassed for most of the match, in the third set he started playing better and he made more of a fight out of it. Nadal's still to good on clay though, Congrats on a fourth consecutive final:hatoff:

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 02:13 PM
Beast Nadal on clay. No one can't touch him.
You mean no one can touch him? And he's been bagelled on clay.
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If not the third set this would be the worst semifinal in the history of tennis.
Do you know anything about tennis?

thesonofgray
06-06-2008, 02:13 PM
That tie break was INTENSE!

But Nadal continues to reign as King of Clay hands down. :worship:

Shabazza
06-06-2008, 02:13 PM
Had a set point - choked like hell, and then choked even more in the tie-break.

Yep, that good first serve followed by a great fh winner from Nadal on SP was a big choke from Novak. :rolleyes:

StevoTG
06-06-2008, 02:13 PM
Oh Rafa :worship::worship::worship:
This legend is unbelievable :bowdown:

Great 3rd set from Novak, but overall a great win for Nadal :clap2:

scoobs
06-06-2008, 02:14 PM
Well done Nadal.

As I suspected. Straight sets, not even particularly close.

Djokovic made 1 set out of three competitive and still lost it.

As with Federer in Hamburg last year, Nole's Hamburg match was a false dawn.

tae04
06-06-2008, 02:14 PM
Nadal is too great on clay. 4th title in a row coming up!

RogiRafaFan86
06-06-2008, 02:14 PM
Congrats Rafa. It shouldn't have gone to a TB, but I suppose I'm glad the crowd got about 10-15 minutes of their money's worth. Kicked his ass in the TB, though. So it's all good.

At least for this year, Novak - No Calendar Slam for you! [/soup nazi]

I'm good with whatever happens in the final, especially if Roger beats Monfils like we all expect him to.

tennizen
06-06-2008, 02:14 PM
I wish people would stop with all the retirement jokes when Djokovic actually gave a fight. I doubt he will retire in big matches again.

MrChopin
06-06-2008, 02:14 PM
Never in doubt.

The first set was scary from Nadal. Djoke went away sooner than expected and tried to come back mid-third when Rafa had gone on cruise control, but Rafa's too tough. Djokovic will need to develop even more confidence if he's going to have a shot against clay-Rafa in the future; he looked lifeless throughout the second and part of the third. The scoreline is deceptively close: this could have been triple bagel 2-2-2 had Nadal kept going after the first.

Djokovic's return still looked impressive at times, but Nadal served well, especially into Nole's body as the match wore on. Rafa also hit through Djokovic's FH, which broke down and went short as Rafa pounded away at it. Djokovic didn't find any rhythm when being aggressive until near the end, spraying UEs all over the place.

All in all, a sound beating.

wilmar
06-06-2008, 02:15 PM
6 down 1 more to go (and no lapse this time please)...Vamos Nadal...one more for the history books in the making!

Montego
06-06-2008, 02:15 PM
You mean no one can touch him? And he's been bagelled on clay.
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Do you know anything about tennis?


Djokovic sucked like a Top200 player in first two sets.

camnation
06-06-2008, 02:15 PM
Awww, Nole. :hug:
Good almost comeback for him. Deserved win for Rafa though.

Clay Death
06-06-2008, 02:15 PM
Too good from Nadal, as expected. Shame that Nole didn't take advantage of the set point in the 3rd to take the match to the 4th, but even is he did the final outcome would have been the same. Nadal is just too good on clay for ANYONE right now...next on the menu is Swiss cheese...time for Nadal to drill a few more holes.


affirmative. Fed will be a little easier to handle as he cant finish or end points off his backhand wing. Look for the Clay Monster to take Fed`s backhand apart and then open up the court with his forehand.

Fed wins 1 set at best and that is only if the Clay Monster is feeling merciful like he was feeling in that 3rd set against Djokovcic today.

All Nadal has to do is win one of the first 2 sets and its over. there is no way Fed is going to hang with the Clay Monster for 4-5 hours.

this match is the best of all scenarios for Nadal. he doesnt let Djokovic win a single set and he gets off the court in under 3 hours.

Bibberz
06-06-2008, 02:16 PM
Good job Nadal and great fight from Novak, a pity he couldn't convert his SP.

I don't think I could have handled Djokovic taking the third set, if only because it would mean the camera would show his youngest brother celebrating some more.

Herdwick
06-06-2008, 02:16 PM
Not a classic but a killing match from Rafa - he's definitely a class above everyone on clay and full credit to him. Pity Nole couldn't come up with the form of the Hamburg SF - first couple of sets were no contest. Third set made up for it though - would have liked to have seen a fourth.

maconick
06-06-2008, 02:16 PM
You mean no one can touch him? And he's been bagelled on clay.

Fed or Gaudio match dont really count imo

Corey Feldman
06-06-2008, 02:16 PM
Nole just didnt serve good at all in the first 2 sets, but he gave a good effort today and thats all you can ask of anyone playing this freak of nature on clay

loved Nadal falling on his back yet again when he wins - like, oh my gosh, big shock i won :lol:

unreal

Commander Data
06-06-2008, 02:17 PM
At least Djoker gave it all in the 3rd and didn't give up, thumbs up for that. Nole would have deserved that 3rd set.

Nadal is just a Beast. Unbelievable how he destroys his opponents :worship:
Best Clay courter ever.....

JediFed
06-06-2008, 02:17 PM
Anyway, for me it's curious that this is very similar scoreline to 2006 SF against Ljubo. 64 62 76. Since Nole >> Ljubo, I guess it's a safe assumption that Nadal 2008 >> Nadal 2006.


Obviously Nadal of 2008 < Nadal of 2006.

Ljubicic actually beat Federer on clay at Gstaad. Call us when Djoko manages to beat a real contender.

KitinovRules
06-06-2008, 02:17 PM
The Faker will lose to Rafa on grass.
He wouldn't made it to the semis of Wimbledon, I am sure.

Action Jackson
06-06-2008, 02:17 PM
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/GeorgeWH/GWH2/NID.jpg

gambit84
06-06-2008, 02:18 PM
Nadal played simply an AMAZING tennis :yeah:

congrats!!!! and good luck for the title :yeah:

:secret: poor Roger :scared: I'm not his fan but against super Rafa I should feel so :scared:

Ales_Alessandra
06-06-2008, 02:18 PM
Congrast to both! Rafa for win it and Nole for fight back on the 3rd!! :)
Now Rafa, win it on sunday!! :woohoo:

SwiSha
06-06-2008, 02:18 PM
Rafa is a beast, still Nole should have made this much more competitive, took him 2 and half sets to believe in his chances

Branimir
06-06-2008, 02:18 PM
Tie break was intense? It was 6-0 for Nadal at one point lolz.

leng jai
06-06-2008, 02:18 PM
How funny was it in the JustinTV chatroom Nils :haha: :haha: :haha:

The Pro
06-06-2008, 02:19 PM
Did rafa play well or did Novak SUUUUUCK?

vincayou
06-06-2008, 02:19 PM
Nadal has only one rival on clay : Borg.

Mrs. B
06-06-2008, 02:20 PM
Rafa is a beast, still Nole should have made this much more competitive, took him 2 and half sets to believe in his chances

agree.

helgagonzalez
06-06-2008, 02:20 PM
Faker will win the Golden Slam this year. :haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

djoker, what a yawn... :zzz:

Clay Death
06-06-2008, 02:21 PM
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/GeorgeWH/GWH2/NID.jpg

try saying that before the match for a change.

fast_clay
06-06-2008, 02:22 PM
nadal... too big... too strong...

he could help Spain lift the rugby world cup... no sh!t...

novak found a a way to properly engage with nadal... but it was far too late...

good to see sportsmanship present today... no fan of novaks sh!te, but learning to take losses like that on the nose can only enhance his repute in my eyes... i'm sorry if that comment hurt some djokhaters...

Sunset of Age
06-06-2008, 02:22 PM
try saying that before the match for a change.

He did. More than once in various threads.

leng jai
06-06-2008, 02:22 PM
try saying that before the match for a change.

You were right CD, Fakervic NO chance :worship:

Kuhne
06-06-2008, 02:23 PM
so much joy in my heart to see djoko lose

rafa the best
06-06-2008, 02:23 PM
RAFA WAS JUST FANTASTIC IN THE FIRST 2 SETS. Then he played one bad game and Djokovic came back which made the 3. set very intense and interesting.

Again Rafa saved break points with great serving, he was very agressive today and his FH down the line was on fire.:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship:

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 02:23 PM
Too good from Nadal, as expected. Shame that Nole didn't take advantage of the set point in the 3rd to take the match to the 4th, but even is he did the final outcome would have been the same. Nadal is just too good on clay for ANYONE right now...next on the menu is Swiss cheese...time for Nadal to drill a few more holes.

Well, the worst part of the season is over for Novak...time for grass and hard courts :)

yeah because Nole is such a great grass court player , he isn't moving good at all on grass slipping all the time, like Monfils he has that style of moving that doesn't work great on grass he msut changed it unless he gets injured one time.
One grass Federer, Nadal, Roddick, Ancic, Hewitt when in form are all better players than Novak.

Gnomey
06-06-2008, 02:23 PM
Djoko won 12 games...which is 3 better than Bellucci.

Hard to imagine how anyone can take 3 friggin sets off this guy. Who knows, a miracle may happen in the Finals...false hope though.

Montego
06-06-2008, 02:24 PM
"The first semifinal left a little bit taste of disgust in me. Djokovic was trying, but his game was uneven, he was having problems from baseline and made too many unforced errors. Nadal was very good, but Djokovic didn't live up to his standards" - commentators on my regional ES (i rate them very high). That's why I think that this match was a snoozefest (because of Djokovic, who sucked badly during 2,5 sets and made a miracolous comeback in the remaining 0,5 of set)

JediFed
06-06-2008, 02:24 PM
Did rafa play well or did Novak SUUUUUCK?


50 percent of first serves for Novak.

jasmin
06-06-2008, 02:25 PM
I fully expected a retirement when he was down in the third set. Why lose when you can retire and say you were in control of the match the whole time?

That's usually what happens.

Bibberz
06-06-2008, 02:26 PM
try saying that before the match for a change.

I will agree that he sometimes says "never in doubt" about matches he doesn't bother to predict, but this isn't one of those times. I think he said Nadal would take the title quite some time ago.

fast_clay
06-06-2008, 02:26 PM
Did rafa play well or did Novak SUUUUUCK?

nadal on top... showed novak who was boss with stunning early form n break... nadal was stalin and dictated, while novak spent time in the gulag labouring away... until, two breaks down in the 3rd, where novak began to open the attack on return more and started stringing some points together and gathered momentum...

too late...

knight_ley
06-06-2008, 02:26 PM
:d

adee-gee
06-06-2008, 02:27 PM
loved Nadal falling on his back yet again when he wins - like, oh my gosh, big shock i won :lol:

unreal
Says the Federer fan :lol:

aeronatasha
06-06-2008, 02:27 PM
Nadal was lethal, some of those shots were just :eek:
Phenomenal stuff.

Novak, Novak, Novak... What the fuck was with you in that 2nd set?:rolleyes: I mean, yes, it's depressing having your ass handed to you, but couldn't you just get mad instead of flat? Plus I seriously couldn't see the logic in his shot selection during that period, he was simply sending everything to Nadal's fh.:shrug:

Thanks for a great effort in the 3rd though, coming back from 2 breaks down was :rocker:

Too bad about the TB, Nadal plazed amazingly well though.:worship:

zcess81
06-06-2008, 02:27 PM
The Faker will lose to Rafa on grass.
He wouldn't made it to the semis of Wimbledon, I am sure.

Whereas on clay it is clear who's the better player, on grass it is not. Yes Nadal won last year, but Novak was exhausted after his previous matches (inexperience on Novak's part imo). He's more experienced player this year and I doubt that he'll play 5 hour matches before semis like he did last year. Fully fit Nadal vs. fully fit Novak on grass is too close to call right now. We'll have to wait and see.

shotgun
06-06-2008, 02:28 PM
Djokovic took too long to get into the match, I expected him to make it a bit more competitive than only one TB. Let's see if Federer manages to take a set off him in the final.

prima donna
06-06-2008, 02:28 PM
Whereas on clay it is clear who's the better player, on grass it is not. Yes Nadal won last year, but Novak was exhausted after his previous matches (inexperience on Novak's part imo). He's more experienced player this year and I doubt that he'll play 5 hour matches before semis like he did last year. Fully fit Nadal vs. fully fit Novak on grass is too close to call right now. We'll have to wait and see.
Hahahahahahahaha.

zcess81
06-06-2008, 02:30 PM
yeah because Nole is such a great grass court player , he isn't moving good at all on grass slipping all the time, like Monfils he has that style of moving that doesn't work great on grass he msut changed it unless he gets injured one time.
One grass Federer, Nadal, Roddick, Ancic, Hewitt when in form are all better players than Novak.

:haha::haha::haha::haha: good one.

tnosugar
06-06-2008, 02:30 PM
Disappointed. He started playing tennis when the odds were against him. Typical of our mentality. He is still intimidated by Rafa on clay and needs to grow up, I'm afraid. Get off the ego trip of winning one grand slam and really try win another one.
Nadal played 80% capacity today in the third set. We'll see what happens at Wimbledon.
No injury withdrawals, I guess some might be disappointed. A win at Wimbledon can still put him in No 2.

Becker's Volleys
06-06-2008, 02:31 PM
Nadal has only one rival on clay : Borg.


Wilander too. Maybe.

RedFury
06-06-2008, 02:31 PM
nice fight in the third set by Djokovic almost makes up for his attitude in the first two and a half sets.

Rafa too good as always, probably his year to win RG without losing a set

Not gonna gloat just because you asked me to. I'll let everyone else do it and soak it in myself. :wavey:

Rafael Nadal: Corazón de León, I de España, II del Mundo.

One more for the history books!

prima donna
06-06-2008, 02:31 PM
:haha::haha::haha::haha: good one.
Have a little humility, your idol was just pulverized.

njnetswill
06-06-2008, 02:32 PM
I did not expect Nole to win a set, but it is nice that the third went to a tiebreak. :yeah:

Best of luck to Rafa in the final. :D

Matt01
06-06-2008, 02:32 PM
Djoko: fought well, classy in defeat :worship:

Rafa: simply too good :worship:


You were right CD, Fakervic NO chance :worship:


CD right for the first time? Impressive.

ZakMcCrack
06-06-2008, 02:32 PM
affirmative. Fed will be a little easier to handle as he cant finish or end points off his backhand wing. Fed wins 1 set at best and that is only if the Clay Monster is feeling merciful like he was feeling in that 3rd set against Djokovcic today.



That's what I call a contradiction, isn't it? Furthermore it's not so much Nadal's forehand crosscourt that bothers me...much worse is when Nadal starts hitting his forehand down the line on a regular basis, which he - surprisingly enough - infrequently did over the last few years. If Nadal hits his forehand cc with little length Fed is actually able to put up some resistance with his backhand cc.

tnosugar
06-06-2008, 02:33 PM
:haha::haha::haha::haha: good one.

he is right actually. His movement on grass is not a standard of excellence....

*bunny*
06-06-2008, 02:34 PM
Well done, Rafa! :yippee:
Now good luck in the final!! :yeah:

tennizen
06-06-2008, 02:34 PM
:haha::haha::haha::haha: good one.

I don't see anything wrong with his statement. Even Baggy has a Wimbledon Semi. Wait till there are some results to show how good he is on grass before beginning to be irritating. And Roddick is a pretty decent player on grass whether you like it or not. And last time Djokovic and Roddick met, Djokovic had his ass handed back to him.

moon language
06-06-2008, 02:36 PM
If not the third set this would be the worst semifinal in the history of tennis.

No that will be the match that is underway now.

RedFury
06-06-2008, 02:37 PM
Too good from Rafa, specially the first two sets, well done u fucking animal :lol:

Congrats to Nole as well, he played well and he made Rafa work hard in the last set

Should I say "I told you so" or would that be rubbing it in a bit much?


Oooops! Never mind, I just did. But fear not, we both won. ;)

Deivid23
06-06-2008, 02:39 PM
Should I say "I told you so" or would that be rubbing it in a bit much?


Oooops! Never mind, I just did. But fear not, we both won. ;)

Buen ojo, y mucho me alegro de haber visto a Rafa jugar como lo ha hecho en los dos primeros sets ;)

Clay Death
06-06-2008, 02:40 PM
Djoko: fought well, classy in defeat :worship:

Rafa: simply too good :worship:





CD right for the first time? Impressive.


give me a break old sport. i am usually right. that said, i was wrong about this match a little. i said it might take 4 hours to dispatch Djokovic but Nadal tightened his game up and didnt allow Djokovic any breathing room in the first 2 sets.

zcess81
06-06-2008, 02:41 PM
I don't see anything wrong with his statement. Even Baggy has a Wimbledon Semi. Wait till there are some results to show how good he is on grass before beginning to be irritating. And Roddick is a pretty decent player on grass whether you like it or not. And last time Djokovic and Roddick met, Djokovic had his ass handed back to him.

I wouldn't laugh if he said Baghdatis...cause he is good on grass RIGHT NOW. Hewitt, Ancic and Roddick are done. Once upon a time they were good on grass...now they are done. Remember Roddick-Gasquet last year?...that was amusing. If Hewitt couldn't beat Novak last year on grass, he has no chance this year as Novak is MUCH more confident then he was back then. Ancic simply has to play the tournament of his life to reach Wimbledon semis this year.

l_mac
06-06-2008, 02:43 PM
:woohoo:

Rafa :worship: :worship: :worship:

Nole is nowhere near Rafa on clay. Good to see :D

tennizen
06-06-2008, 02:44 PM
I wouldn't laugh if he said Baghdatis...cause he is good on grass RIGHT NOW. Hewitt, Ancic and Roddick are done. Once upon a time they were good on grass...now they are done. Remember Roddick-Gasquet last year?...that was amusing. If Hewitt couldn't beat Novak last year on grass, he has no chance this year as Novak is MUCH more confident then he was back then. Ancic simply has to play the tournament of his life to reach Wimbledon semis this year.

Gasquet played like a man possessed that day. I wouldn't take that match into consideration. Novak's confidence is not the only thing that will win him matches. He still has to play to win. So far he is a semifinalist at Wimbledon. Not bad but not spectacular by any means. He has potential and likelihood to do more, we all know that. But until he does that, we cannot say.

Apemant
06-06-2008, 02:46 PM
Says the Federer fan :lol:

Irrespective of that, I wonder why did you put that flag and avvy?

Voo de Mar
06-06-2008, 02:49 PM
1st set: decent
2nd set: pathetic
3rd set: interesting

:zzz:

connectolove
06-06-2008, 02:50 PM
Congrats Nadal!

zcess81
06-06-2008, 02:50 PM
:woohoo:

Rafa :worship: :worship: :worship:

Nole is nowhere near Rafa on clay. Good to see :D

Nole not near Nadal on clay...tell me something I didn't already know...who is? Answer: Nobody, not even Fed. However, Nole and Fed are better on clay than Nadal is on Hard Courts.

Still, 2 AMS semis, 1 win...RG Semis...not bad considering clay is his worst surface :) Couldn't have asked for a better clay court season.

Deivid23
06-06-2008, 02:50 PM
1st set: decent
2nd set: pathetic
3rd set: interesting

:zzz:

:zzz: @ your eternal :zzz:

Clay Death
06-06-2008, 02:51 PM
Nole not near Nadal on clay...tell me something I didn't already know...who is? Answer: Nobody, not even Fed. However, Nole and Fed are better on clay than Nadal is on Hard Courts.

Still, 2 AMS semis, 1 win...RG Semis...not bad considering clay is his worst surface :) Couldn't have asked for a better clay court season.

affirmative.

Apemant
06-06-2008, 02:51 PM
I wouldn't laugh if he said Baghdatis...cause he is good on grass RIGHT NOW. Hewitt, Ancic and Roddick are done. Once upon a time they were good on grass...now they are done. Remember Roddick-Gasquet last year?...that was amusing. If Hewitt couldn't beat Novak last year on grass, he has no chance this year as Novak is MUCH more confident then he was back then. Ancic simply has to play the tournament of his life to reach Wimbledon semis this year.

Load of crap. Roddick is not done, he lost last year to Gasquet because the French played out of his mind - and it still took him 5 sets.

Ancic had a 2 year period of illness/injuries/whatever, and before that was pretty much a choker. (Remember the tag 'Ancichoke'?).

Neither of those guys are to be taken lightly on grass. Maybe Hewitt, but who knows, he might wake up too.

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 02:53 PM
:haha::haha::haha::haha: good one.

Ancic won 2 grass court titles and made SF, QF of Wimby , also last man to beat Roger Federer has
Hewitt played 5h match against Djoke and Lleyton wasn't fully fit (sad it is normal these days) and was one step from taking it to 5th and it was Hewitt mistakes not Djoke game that avoided 5th set
Roddick is in Top3 players on grass for like 6 yeras now , he beat Djoke on slow hardcourt and his game is the best on grass

And Djoke movement on hardcourt may be the best , but on grass it is rather bad he slips like 10+ at set, he isn;t good mover on grass and for him movement is more crucial than for Andy or Ancic

Action Jackson
06-06-2008, 02:55 PM
try saying that before the match for a change.

No wonder why I think you're a clown. Check the date of the post.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=7141708&postcount=12

Stensland
06-06-2008, 02:55 PM
good times. :)

SerenaFederer
06-06-2008, 02:56 PM
beast of a performance from nadal :worship: don't hurt Federer too much sunday :sobbing:

Merton
06-06-2008, 02:56 PM
Impressive performance by Nadal in the first 2 sets, then Djokovic took much more risk in his game and especially in the return of serve to make the 3rd set competitive.

HeiwaDream
06-06-2008, 02:57 PM
Rafa is fantastic on Clay. He is really the best of the history. And he has beaten Novak 2 time in a row to save his second place and Djokovic did not give up.

I hope Nadal will win his 4th RG Sunday.

MurrayFan1
06-06-2008, 02:57 PM
Incredible by Nadal.

And people thought Djokovic was catching up. I think it's a shame that the top 2 seem so far ahead of everyone else after watching this Grand Slam.

Leopold Stotch
06-06-2008, 02:58 PM
The guy stands five meters behind the baseline but every one of his opponents stays back instead of following through on the first serve and attacking him.

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 02:59 PM
I wouldn't laugh if he said Baghdatis...cause he is good on grass RIGHT NOW. Hewitt, Ancic and Roddick are done. Once upon a time they were good on grass...now they are done. Remember Roddick-Gasquet last year?...that was amusing. If Hewitt couldn't beat Novak last year on grass, he has no chance this year as Novak is MUCH more confident then he was back then. Ancic simply has to play the tournament of his life to reach Wimbledon semis this year.

Ancic serve and game suits for grass , he can go out and serve like machine, but who has said that Ancic must go to Semis, looking at the draw, he can draw Djoke in 1st round,
Roddick is done good to know so your idol lost to player who is done on his favourite surface easily in 2 sets ??:wavey:
Hewitt is not to be uderestimated, he showed in Paris that even injured he can play great level, he has heart like noone and he is such a better mover on grass than Djoke

on guys like Stepanek ? he nearly lost to time at Open

Merton
06-06-2008, 03:00 PM
good times. :)

Still need to discuss whether Djokovic has weaknesses?

speranza
06-06-2008, 03:01 PM
Now, honestly I don't care what all these people in here say. I can't imagine why so many would constantly bash a player who came out of nowhere to become number three in the world, who dared to challenge the best two in the world and ruin their hegemony. A player who is not afraid to speak his mind, who has the grace to always applaud his opponent's brilliant shots. A 21 years old guy who speaks multiple languages and plays tennis with his head, not his biceps. A young guy that has the mentality of a champion and whose game is constanly improving.

Congratulations to all Rafa fans and all fans of his so called "tennis". To me everything that he represents does not have anything to do with the sport I so love - his muscles, his ass-picking, his greasy hair, his spitting, his bull-like running around the court, his moonballing, his "I'm ready to kill anybody who stands in my way" look...

And do not forget one thing - the clay court season is coming to an end and Rafa's reign with it!

scarecrows
06-06-2008, 03:02 PM
Now, honestly I don't care what all these people in here say. I can't imagine why so many would constantly bash a player who came out of nowhere to become number three in the world, who dared to challenge the best two in the world and ruin their hegemony. A player who is not afraid to speak his mind, who has the grace to always applaud his opponent's brilliant shots. A 21 years old guy who speaks multiple languages and plays tennis with his head, not his biceps. A young guy that has the mentality of a champion and whose game is constanly improving.

Congratulations to all Rafa fans and all fans of his so called "tennis". To me everything that he represents does not have anything to do with the sport I so love - his muscles, his ass-picking, his greasy hair, his spitting, his bull-like running around the court, his moonballing, his "I'm ready to kill anybody who stands in my way" look...

And do not forget one thing - the clay court season is coming to an end and Rafa's reign with it!
:worship::worship::worship:
great post

tennizen
06-06-2008, 03:02 PM
Now, honestly I don't care what all these people in here say. I can't imagine why so many would constantly bash a player who came out of nowhere to become number three in the world, who dared to challenge the best two in the world and ruin their hegemony. A player who is not afraid to speak his mind, who has the grace to always applaud his opponent's brilliant shots. A 21 years old guy who speaks multiple languages and plays tennis with his head, not his biceps. A young guy that has the mentality of a champion and whose game is constanly improving.

Congratulations to all Rafa fans and all fans of his so called "tennis". To me everything that he represents does not have anything to do with the sport I so love - his muscles, his ass-picking, his greasy hair, his spitting, his bull-like running around the court, his moonballing, his "I'm ready to kill anybody who stands in my way" look...

And do not forget one thing - the clay court season is coming to an end and Rafa's reign with it!

You covered almost everything. Just forgot to mention that clay court tennis is not real tennis. There now your post is complete in all respects:)

10nisfan
06-06-2008, 03:05 PM
YAY RAFA!!!... :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo: :bounce::bounce::bounce: :banana::banana::banana::rocker2:

KUDOS to Beating The Djoker!!! ... :worship::worship::worship: :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: :bigclap::bigclap::bigclap:

Please Go and Win the Finals!!!... :rocker:

Bibberz
06-06-2008, 03:06 PM
Now, honestly I don't care what all these people in here say. I can't imagine why so many would constantly bash a player who came out of nowhere to become number three in the world, who dared to challenge the best two in the world and ruin their hegemony. A player who is not afraid to speak his mind, who has the grace to always applaud his opponent's brilliant shots. A 21 years old guy who speaks multiple languages and plays tennis with his head, not his biceps. A young guy that has the mentality of a champion and whose game is constanly improving.

he∑gem∑o∑ny
Ėnoun, plural -nies.
1. leadership or predominant influence exercised by one nation over others, as in a confederation.

If anything, Nadal was the one who came along and challenged Federer's hegemony. There's no need to act like Djokovic is defying some evil empire--he plays great tennis and he deserves all the success he gets. It's as simple as that.

HeiwaDream
06-06-2008, 03:07 PM
Now, honestly I don't care what all these people in here say. I can't imagine why so many would constantly bash a player who came out of nowhere to become number three in the world, who dared to challenge the best two in the world and ruin their hegemony. A player who is not afraid to speak his mind, who has the grace to always applaud his opponent's brilliant shots. A 21 years old guy who speaks multiple languages and plays tennis with his head, not his biceps. A young guy that has the mentality of a champion and whose game is constanly improving.

Congratulations to all Rafa fans and all fans of his so called "tennis". To me everything that he represents does not have anything to do with the sport I so love - his muscles, his ass-picking, his greasy hair, his spitting, his bull-like running around the court, his moonballing, his "I'm ready to kill anybody who stands in my way" look...

And do not forget one thing - the clay court season is coming to an end and Rafa's reign with it!

You just hate Rafa because he has beaten your guy. Pathetic.

Forehander
06-06-2008, 03:07 PM
affirmative. Fed will be a little easier to handle as he cant finish or end points off his backhand wing. Look for the Clay Monster to take Fed`s backhand apart and then open up the court with his forehand.

Fed wins 1 set at best and that is only if the Clay Monster is feeling merciful like he was feeling in that 3rd set against Djokovcic today.

All Nadal has to do is win one of the first 2 sets and its over. there is no way Fed is going to hang with the Clay Monster for 4-5 hours.

this match is the best of all scenarios for Nadal. he doesnt let Djokovic win a single set and he gets off the court in under 3 hours.

Federer will not be easier to handle than Djokovic in this tournament.

Clay Death
06-06-2008, 03:09 PM
Federer will not be easier to handle than Djokovic in this tournament.


you could be right. he does own Fed and knows his game better. lets see how it plays out.

zcess81
06-06-2008, 03:09 PM
Ancic serve and game suits for grass , he can go out and serve like machine, but who has said that Ancic must go to Semis, looking at the draw, he can draw Djoke in 1st round,
Roddick is done good to know so your idol lost to player who is done on his favourite surface easily in 2 sets ??:wavey:
Hewitt is not to be uderestimated, he showed in Paris that even injured he can play great level, he has heart like noone and he is such a better mover on grass than Djoke

on guys like Stepanek ? he nearly lost to time at Open

He also lost to Kevin Anderson and Santoro and other lesser players...your point being? Are you saying that Anderson and Santoro are better on hard courts just cause they beat him once?? These things happen...Ferrero beat Nadal on clay...if they were to meet again you think he'll beat him again?

PS. Roddick beat him 7-6 6-4...that's not exactly "easily"

Apemant
06-06-2008, 03:09 PM
The guy stands five meters behind the baseline but every one of his opponents stays back instead of following through on the first serve and attacking him.

Surely it must have crossed your mind that pros definitely gave it a thought, or at least their coaches.

The thing is, Rafa's passing shots are so strong that anyone charging the net blindly turns literally into a sitting duck. He can pass you mercilessly on both wings and even lob you. And he's so fast that even dropshots aren't effective unless they are top notch.

speranza
06-06-2008, 03:09 PM
Where did I mention that I hate him? I just happen to very much dislike his style. There is a difference.

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 03:13 PM
He also lost to Kevin Anderson and Santoro...your point being? Are you saying that Anderson and Santoro are better on hard courts just cause they beat him once?? These things happen...Ferrero beat Nadal on clay...if they were to meet again you think he'll beat him again?

so Anderson is also done player :wavey: I Think he is far from being done, yeah but Roddick outplayed Djoke in that match , Djoke wasn't injured, tired, in bad mood and lost in straights so do not comapre it to Ferrero or Anderson match

scarecrows
06-06-2008, 03:14 PM
Where did I mention that I hate him? I just happen to very much dislike his style. There is a difference.

the style of what? of his tennis?

CyBorg
06-06-2008, 03:15 PM
Novak had his chances, but when Nadal turns it up he's simply too good. The most interesting part of his game is the way he's able to vary pace. Djoko looked overwhelmed.

RedFury
06-06-2008, 03:15 PM
Where did I mention that I hate him? I just happen to very much dislike his style. There is a difference.

Not really. You're bitter either way.

Enjoy Rafadomination. I know I am.

TMJordan
06-06-2008, 03:15 PM
Novak :tears:

A_Skywalker
06-06-2008, 03:17 PM
Great win from Rafa, when I saw him play the first games I was sure he would win

zcess81
06-06-2008, 03:17 PM
so Anderson is also done player :wavey: I Think he is far from being done, yeah but Roddick outplayed Djoke in that match , Djoke wasn't injured, tired, in bad mood and lost in straights so do not comapre it to Ferrero or Anderson match

He wasn't tired against Anderson either...it was just a bad day at the office.

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 03:18 PM
He wasn't tired against Anderson either...it was just a bad day at the office.

not really he was tired mentally for sure, and he was 100% at Dubai , no bad day, no injury was just outplayed

Aenea
06-06-2008, 03:21 PM
Now, honestly I don't care what all these people in here say. I can't imagine why so many would constantly bash a player who came out of nowhere to become number three in the world, who dared to challenge the best two in the world and ruin their hegemony. A player who is not afraid to speak his mind, who has the grace to always applaud his opponent's brilliant shots. A 21 years old guy who speaks multiple languages and plays tennis with his head, not his biceps. A young guy that has the mentality of a champion and whose game is constanly improving.

Congratulations to all Rafa fans and all fans of his so called "tennis". To me everything that he represents does not have anything to do with the sport I so love - his muscles, his ass-picking, his greasy hair, his spitting, his bull-like running around the court, his moonballing, his "I'm ready to kill anybody who stands in my way" look...

And do not forget one thing - the clay court season is coming to an end and Rafa's reign with it!

:haha:

Another bitter loser. :worship: You cannot attack Nadal's tennis skills on clay, so you go all on his look, habits, attitude etc. If you don't like his tennis don't watch it simple as that.

Well done, Rafa. :clap2: 6 down 1 more to go. Win FO again come Sunday.

Stensland
06-06-2008, 03:21 PM
Still need to discuss whether Djokovic has weaknesses?

well, he still doesn't, but he doesn't have as many unbelievable strenghts as nadal. that's his main "weakness". a solid all-rounder has problems to take it to a guy who has several departments in which he's basically unbeatable.

zcess81
06-06-2008, 03:21 PM
so Anderson is also done player :wavey: I Think he is far from being done, yeah but Roddick outplayed Djoke in that match , Djoke wasn't injured, tired, in bad mood and lost in straights so do not comapre it to Ferrero or Anderson match

He lost in 2 TIGHT SETS...7-6 6-4...hardly a beat down like you make it sound. Forget number of sets and look at level of play. Novak had a bad day...made tons of unforced errors and Roddick served great ALL match. For Roddick to beat Novak he has to serve like HELL and Novak has to be below his best.

Forehander
06-06-2008, 03:24 PM
Incredible by Nadal.

And people thought Djokovic was catching up. I think it's a shame that the top 2 seem so far ahead of everyone else after watching this Grand Slam.

Dude do you keep up with tennis? Look, I hate Djokovic. But he won the Australian Open in superb form playing nearly flawless tennis this year, been to US Open final and absolutely man handled Nadal on hard court during Indian Wells. He is catching up and there is no "huge" gap.

There is absolutely no doubt Djokovic is the second best player on HARD COURT behind Federer. Even Federer said Djokovic have the highest chance to becoming his successor. Why do you think Nadal is called a "CLAY COURT SPECIALIST"? Obviously it's because he's not as good on the other surfaces right? Nadal winning this tournament only means he is defending his points, he won't gain or lose. Djokovic also have defended his own points so no gain or loss there.

Unfortunately, I can only see Djokovic getting better and better for the rest of the year. He will become the world number 2 very soon.

zcess81
06-06-2008, 03:24 PM
not really he was tired mentally for sure, and he was 100% at Dubai , no bad day, no injury was just outplayed

Physically, sure he was 100%...but his game was nowhere near 100%. Novak at his best vs. Roddick at his best on HC...only one winner. No contest really.

speranza
06-06-2008, 03:24 PM
the style of what? of his tennis?


His style as a whole. I described it in the previous post. To me Nadal is more like a rugby player. But I will never come up and insult him in any way. In my view, people in here who are so offensive towards Djokovic, are no real tennis fans. But enough said. The future will prove somedy wrong for sure. let's see who it will be.

P.S. And I've read here a lot about class. Well obviously class is a very subjective thing. I don't see a hint of class in Nadal's whole being, unlike Novak. But you know, at the end of the day it's all about being tolerant. And this word seems to be somewhat unknown in this forum.

Farenhajt
06-06-2008, 03:25 PM
Congrats, Rafa :worship:

What's strange (to me, at least) is a big tactical change from Novak, compared to Hamburg. He seemed to refuse to attack the net so much, and tried to win baseline rallies. With all respect, that's simply NOT the right kind of strategy against Nadal. But perhaps he didn't really expect very much from this match and just wanted to sample various tactical things.

Anyway, what's more troublesome is his head. He'll just have to learn not to let desperation ruin his game.

All in all, for his worst surface, this was surprisingly good season. And personally, the great comfort is the sure fact that ExFed is NOT completing his career slam this year :woohoo: (or ever :))

10nisfan
06-06-2008, 03:26 PM
... Congratulations to all Rafa fans and all fans of his so called "tennis". To me everything that he represents does not have anything to do with the sport I so love - his muscles, his ass-picking, his greasy hair, his spitting, his bull-like running around the court, his moonballing, his "I'm ready to kill anybody who stands in my way" look...

And do not forget one thing - the clay court season is coming to an end and Rafa's reign with it!

I take it YOU HATE RAFA!!!

BUT...

DJOKOVIC... A 21 years old guy who plays tennis with his head, not his biceps.

I Think Rafa has a "Better Head on His Shoulders than The Djoker... And Rafa DOESN'T Play Tennis with His Biceps, He Plays with His Head, that's why He has the Mental Edge over Most Players out there even over Djokovic!...


DJOKOVIC...A young guy that has the mentality of a champion and whose game is constanly improving.

The Djoker has "the Heart of a Champion"?... Yeah Sure, Today maybe he did have a Heart of a Champion coz He Didn't Retire from being 2 Sets and A Couple of Breaks Down... of Course He couldn't afford to Retire Today coz He would be taking a LOT of HEAT from Most PPL if He pulled that Famous Stunt of His!!!...

DhammaTiger
06-06-2008, 03:28 PM
Rafa is the greatest, and will always be. Vamos Rafa!

Ronalda
06-06-2008, 03:29 PM
I may prefer Rafa, but have to say that Djoke is smarter :D

VAMOS RAFA now! Kick FedEx's ass!

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 03:29 PM
Physically, sure he was 100%...but his game was nowhere near 100%. Novak at his best vs. Roddick at his best on HC...only one winner. No contest really.

:haha:
Roddick from 2003 win with Djoke easily, better serve much much bigger forehand.
So I would call it one winner

Roddick on grass at his best vs Novak on grass at his best here is one winner as Novak is easily on clay

speranza
06-06-2008, 03:29 PM
I take it YOU HATE RAFA!!!

BUT...



I Think Rafa has a "Better Head on His Shoulders than The Djoker... And Rafa DOESN'T Play Tennis with His Biceps, He Plays with His Head, that's why He has the Mental Edge over Most Players out there even over Djokovic!...




The Djoker has "the Heart of a Champion"?... Yeah Sure, Today maybe he did have a Heart of a Champion coz He Didn't Retire from being 2 Sets and A Couple of Breaks Down... of Course He couldn't afford to Retire Today coz He would be taking a LOT of HEAT from Most PPL if He pulled that Famous Stunt of His!!!...



You can substract whatever you want from the post and twist it the way you like. Couldn't care less.

zcess81
06-06-2008, 03:31 PM
Incredible by Nadal.

And people thought Djokovic was catching up. I think it's a shame that the top 2 seem so far ahead of everyone else after watching this Grand Slam.

Do you watch tennis at all???

Nadal is ahead of everyone else (Fed and Novak) on CLAY. That's it. On HC it is Nadal that has A LOT of catching up to do. On HC he isn't even 3rd best player in the world (I'd put Davydenko ahead of him on HC), whereas on clay Fed is 2nd best, Novak 3rd best...and if you don't believe me look at this year's results.

zcess81
06-06-2008, 03:33 PM
:haha:
Roddick from 2003 win with Djoke easily, better serve much much bigger forehand.
So I would call it one winner

Roddick on grass at his best vs Novak on grass at his best here is one winner as Novak is easily on clay

Are you on crack? Roddick has much bigger forehand than Novak?? That's just retarded. No need to argue anymore.

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 03:36 PM
Are you on crack? Roddick has much bigger forehand than Novak?? That's just retarded. No need to argue anymore.

have you seen Roddick in 2003 or 2004 , in 2004 Wimby final he was blowing Federer from the court with that Forehand, Djoke has great forehand but nowhere near Roger, Goznalez, Blake etc and Roddick had that awesome forehand

you think that Roddick and Ancic are done , that's unmature and stupid, Invanisevic was also done when he won Wimby ??:wavey:
Roddick is clearly done he has beaten all top3 players in 2008, really done :haha:

Shantal
06-06-2008, 03:38 PM
His style as a whole. I described it in the previous post. To me Nadal is more like a rugby player. But I will never come up and insult him in any way. In my view, people in here who are so offensive towards Djokovic, are no real tennis fans. But enough said. The future will prove somedy wrong for sure. let's see who it will be.

P.S. And I've read here a lot about class. Well obviously class is a very subjective thing. I don't see a hint of class in Nadal's whole being, unlike Novak. But you know, at the end of the day it's all about being tolerant. And this word seems to be somewhat unknown in this forum.

I understand you don't like Nadal's game, but to say that he doesn't use his head or that his muscles are the only reason he is so good, then sorry, but you have no freaking idea how tennis is played.

Here is a part of an article that Moondancer from VB.com translated here (http://vamosbrigade.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3383&start=1635).

We often hear that Nadal is a physique above all; this would explain his quasi-invincibility on clay. I totally disagree with this notion. Today, in the semi-final against Djokovic, we will have the opportunity to realize that heís a fabulous tennis player as well. First of all, heís the best defender in the world. In defense, like often is said, itís not all about the legs. Nadal has an exceptional hand; in full run he does astonishing things with his left hand. His wrist action is extraordinary. When their forehand is heavily targeted, the majority of the players will give an easy reply: he hits crossed passing shots because he has a rare hand. The same applies to his forehand from the back of the court: you canít limit yourself talking about his biceps because he wears a sleeveless shirt. The efficiency of that shot does not come from his biceps. Itís based on technique, on his hand and his legs because the power comes from the way he positions himself onto the surface. His are exceptional.

zcess81
06-06-2008, 03:39 PM
have you seen Roddick in 2003 or 2004 , in 2004 Wimby final he was blowing Federer from the court with that Forehand, Djoke has great forehand but nowhere near Roger, Goznalez, Blake etc and Roddick had that awesome forehand

you think that Roddick and Ancic are done , that's unmature and stupid, Invanisevic was also done when he won Wimby ??:wavey:

Roger, Gonzo and Blake, sure, they all (especially Gonzo) have bigger forehands than Novak, BUT definitely not Roddick.

speranza
06-06-2008, 03:43 PM
I understand you don't like Nadal's game, but to say that he doesn't use his head or that his muscles are the only reason he is so good, then sorry, but you have no freaking idea how tennis is played.

Here is a part of an article that Moondancer from VB.com translated here (http://vamosbrigade.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3383&start=1635).

Look, I see you are a fan of Nadal and Federer. I am not and it obviously automatically means to you that I know nothing of tennis. Your right. Just no need to discuss further.

tennizen
06-06-2008, 03:45 PM
Djokovic's presser is up. He is quite disappointed.

Q. You had him constantly under pressure on his serve in his last six service games. What adjustment did you make at that point in the second set to finally get on top of his serve?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: It was the third set that I managed to do something about his game and about today's match. The first two sets, especially the second set, was pretty bad for me. I wasn't finding any rhythm and making a lot of unforced errors.

He was using wisely. You know, he feels great on this court. He never lost there. I just, you know, decided to go for the shots and try everything or nothing, you know. I just couldn't do anything else.

I wasn't moving the way I moved in our last match in Hamburg, you know. I was making more mistakes than I should have. You know, he showed again that in the most important moments he's very strong mentally, and why he is the defending champion of the French Open.

Q. How would you describe the mental toll that playing him takes with so many long physical rallies?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Yeah, well, especially here, you know. Not many people know that center court is quite slower than the other courts, especially Suzanne Lenglen and Court 1. They are pretty fast.

Center court suits to his game, and you basically ‑‑ sometimes it's really frustrating when you can't make a winner. My game is based on aggressivity. I try to go for the shots, and I either make mistakes or I make winners and try to put pressure on my opponent.

With him, it's really difficult on this court. Physically‑wise, I had enough time to rest and to prepare, but on the court I didn't feel ‑‑ I didn't feel well.

Probably there is pressure combined, you know, mentally and mental ‑‑ mental ability with the pressure. It's combined with the physical preparation and strength, so there was a lot of stress on the court. Obviously I didn't feel well.

Q. Set point goes by. Was it a sinking feeling when you saw that ball go by?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Unfortunately, yeah. I don't know how many people noticed today, but there was a lot of wind and tough conditions to play.

From the one side, whoever played from that side was really dominant, because he played with the wind. From the other side, I had that set point, and, you know, I returned that serve.

Unfortunately I ‑‑ he got me on wrong foot. But, you know, he played well. All credit to him.

Q. You're two sets to Love down; you're two breaks down. Everybody thinks the match is over. At that point you staged a remarkable comeback. Where did you find it within yourself to come back like that?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, the point from start of the second set till 3‑Love third set was so quick that I didn't, you know, I didn't even notice it. It's so much errors and he played really well. He used it.

So, you know, in the split of the second I'm two sets down and double break down, but I was still trying, you know. I didn't want to give up.

It's semifinals of the Grand Slam. Of course, there's a lot at stake on that match and everybody's watching it. I just ‑‑ I just don't like to give up, so I wasn't trying to give up.

And as you could see, I did everything I could. In this moment I wasn't performing the tennis that I usually can perform, and I think I can do better. But, you know, the better player won today.

Q. Do you think it's possible to beat him on this court here, best of five?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Everything is possible, you know. The way he plays now, it's really tough. Of course, he's a favorite in every match he plays against whoever he plays on this court. He never lost here.

Of course sometimes the people wonder, is it possible or not? But everything is possible. Nobody's unbeatable.

Q. I was going to ask an extension of that. If Roger does win this, do you think it's possible he's ready to beat Rafa on this surface?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, he wants it a lot, so he has a lot of motivation for French Open title. That's the only title he didn't win, so I think everything is possible.

Q. Do you have any advice for him, how to play or...

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: I need to give advice to Roger? (laughter.)

I think no. He knows the best.

Q. Coming back to the match, 54% first serve. It's not enough, obviously.

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: No, this is one of the things that I wasn't really happy about today in my game. My serve was really bad, low percentage. Even when I got the first serves in they were pretty slow and no angles, so it wasn't really effective.

If you play against ‑‑ if you are intending to win against Rafa on this court, on his court, you have to serve well. This is what I didn't do today.

Q. As you were making your resurgence, do you feel you were reading his spins a lot better? Was that helpful?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, yeah. You know, I just need to play my game whenever I play him, you know. I need to be aggressive. He's best defensive player in the world, and he plays every point like it's a match point.

He produces a lot of spin, which makes my life a lot tougher on this surface. You know, especially when he opens up the court on the backhand side. He was playing smart, so, I was, you know, making unforced errors like I shouldn't.

Q. On to grass now?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Yeah. Grass court season is always something that I look forward to. We all know that the grass is much slower than it used to be, so baseline players have much ‑‑ a lot of success in the past years.

I played semifinals at Wimbledon last year. I have no reason not to expect any big results, so I look forward to it.

Q. As you look back on this match, or will look back on this match and the tactics, you have enough groundstroke power to play two ways with him: You can play risky and go for your shots, or try to hit with him and wait a little bit longer. Did you wait too long in this match to play a little bit riskier tennis, start going for your shots?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Now if I think about it, of course, if I could change some things, I would change some things. But in that certain moment it is not easy, because there is a lot of other things, you know, mental stress and pressure that you need to cope with.

So if you're planning to play something and then you just ‑‑ it's not easy to get the right outcome, you know, at that point, because, you know, there's a lot of things involved. Yeah, you know, with him you need to be aggressive.

But in the other hand, you need to ‑‑ you know, you need to stay calm and just stay with him all the time mentally and in the game, as well. Try to be patient, but go for the shots.

Maybe I was supposed to go more to the net, which I didn't.

Q. You played a lot of Grand Slams, and you're also a Grand Slam champion. Can you imagine what it's like to come to a Grand Slam and have never lost? What kind of mental pressure does that take to be able to handle that?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: That's a question for him. I don't know. I still ‑‑ I still don't know how he feels.

Q. You look like a little bit depressed. How tough is this loss?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, how you want me to feel after a loss? You want me to laugh all the time?

I expected a lot from this match, of course. You know, I feel sorry that I lost. I'm not depressed, far away from that, you know.

I'm only 21 years old and I played so much, you know, semifinals of the Grand Slam tournaments, and won couple majors and a Grand Slam itself, so I have no reason to be depressed. I just look forward to the future.

Shantal
06-06-2008, 03:50 PM
Look, I see you are a fan of Nadal and Federer. I am not and it obviously automatically means to you that I know nothing of tennis. Your right. Just no need to discuss further.

No, I will tell you exacly what clued me in that you are very biased in your option on Nadal's game:

A 21 years old guy who speaks multiple languages and plays tennis with his head, not his biceps :rolleyes:

fans of his so called "tennis". :rolleyes:

his muscles, his ass-picking, his greasy hair, his spitting, his bull-like running around the court, his moonballing, :rolleyes:


Yes, everything you have said just shows how unbiased and tennis-related your posts are. :wavey:
If you want to play the good-natured, wish you luck doing it somewhere else.

acionescu
06-06-2008, 03:53 PM
Now, honestly I don't care what all these people in here say. I can't imagine why so many would constantly bash a player who came out of nowhere to become number three in the world, who dared to challenge the best two in the world and ruin their hegemony. A player who is not afraid to speak his mind, who has the grace to always applaud his opponent's brilliant shots. A 21 years old guy who speaks multiple languages and plays tennis with his head, not his biceps. A young guy that has the mentality of a champion and whose game is constanly improving.

Congratulations to all Rafa fans and all fans of his so called "tennis". To me everything that he represents does not have anything to do with the sport I so love - his muscles, his ass-picking, his greasy hair, his spitting, his bull-like running around the court, his moonballing, his "I'm ready to kill anybody who stands in my way" look...

And do not forget one thing - the clay court season is coming to an end and Rafa's reign with it!

:yeah: :hug: :hug:

Rafalover15
06-06-2008, 03:53 PM
Yeah nadal :woohoo:

Glad he won now demonlish Fed :devil:

Loremaster
06-06-2008, 03:56 PM
Roger, Gonzo and Blake, sure, they all (especially Gonzo) have bigger forehands than Novak, BUT definitely not Roddick.

yeah and Roddick from 2003-2004 was in their league considering forehand , ask someone or watch same tapes and then write something

speranza
06-06-2008, 03:57 PM
No, I will tell you exacly what clued me in that you are very biased in your option on Nadal's game:

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:


Yes, everything you have said just shows how unbiased and tennis-related your posts are. :wavey:
If you want to play the good-natured, wish you luck doing it somewhere else.


The good-natured? Call me stupid but I don't get a word you are saying. Tennis is much more than forehands and backhands. Sad for you if you don't get it.

And I have the right to write whatever I like in here (Yes - tennis related!) as much as you do. So why don't we just move on. Don't really see the point in this discussion.

10nisfan
06-06-2008, 03:59 PM
Djokovic's presser is up. He is quite disappointed.

DJOKOVIC: So, you know, in the split of the second I'm two sets down and double break down, but I was still trying, you know. I didn't want to give up.

It's semifinals of the Grand Slam. Of course, there's a lot at stake on that match and everybody's watching it. I just ‑‑ I just don't like to give up, so I wasn't trying to give up.


Told You He Couldn't Afford to Retire Again Today!!!... :haha:

zcess81
06-06-2008, 04:01 PM
yeah and Roddick from 2003-2004 was in their league considering forehand , ask someone or watch same tapes and then write something

I don't know what you've been smoking but comparing Roddick's forehand to those 3 is just laughable. I was at Fed-Roddick Wimbledon final in 2004 (and also at their semi in 2003) and I have been watching him before that...not even in the same league as Fed and Gonzo or Novak now. His weapons are serve and fighting spirit. His forehand is average at best...his backhand is quite poor.

gebl
06-06-2008, 04:03 PM
excellent work, Nadal,

:secret: and please make speranza's life as unhappy as possible by going on playing and winning in this style :secret:

Mateya
06-06-2008, 04:06 PM
Expected, but I have been surprised by:

-Nadal's very good slice :spit: It helped him a lot and have never seen him using it so much.
-Nadal's crosscourt backhand :eek: sometimes he really cracked it, especially when turning defence into attack.
Forehand was murdering like always.:smoke:

Great first sets from Rafa, now beat Fedmug once again (or Monfils maybe :tape:)

speranza
06-06-2008, 04:06 PM
excellent work, Nadal,

:secret: and please make speranza's life as unhappy as possible by going on playing and winning in this style :secret:



:smash: I sense some wishful thinking here :):):)

Bilbo
06-06-2008, 04:10 PM
expected straight sets win by Nadal :yeah:

Shantal
06-06-2008, 04:11 PM
The good-natured? Call me stupid but I don't get a word you are saying. Tennis is much more than forehands and backhands. Sad for you if you don't get it.

And I have the right to write whatever I like in here (Yes - tennis related!) as much as you do. So why don't we just move on. Don't really see the point in this discussion.

:confused: I don't get it? Of course tennis is much more than forehands and backhands. Where did I even imply that?
Или просто така е по-лесно да се напише. Дай да го напиша на български, ако случайно и това не разбереш.

И по същия начин, по който ти имаш правото да си пишеш за всичко, свързано с тениса тук, аз имам пълното право да ти отговарям. Или и това е трудно за разбиране? Ако искаш да си изказваш мнението и никой да не казва нищо против това, направи с блог, там можеш да пишеш каквото си искаш и ти самата/самия да решаваш дали някой да ти противоречи.

And in the same way that you have the right to post here about tennis related stuff, I have the same right to respond to it. That's what forums are for. If you want to express your option without any opposition , create a blog and post there.

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 04:17 PM
Where's Clay Death in this thread??? :lol:

Petrovic
06-06-2008, 04:19 PM
Incredible by Nadal.

And people thought Djokovic was catching up. I think it's a shame that the top 2 seem so far ahead of everyone else after watching this Grand Slam.

You just don't understand tennis !

vucina
06-06-2008, 04:20 PM
Rafa was a monster. Ballet dancer has no chance tomorrow.

10nisfan
06-06-2008, 04:24 PM
Good of Rafa that He Delivered Today in his Match with The Djoker... :bigclap:

This what Rafa Said 2 Days Prior I think: "This is just talk, talk, talk. What is important is playing well on the court on Friday, and we'll see who wins."

:nerner::rocker:

GlennMirnyi
06-06-2008, 04:25 PM
Easy as expected. What was kinda surprising was that he didn't retire. :o

10nisfan
06-06-2008, 04:28 PM
What was kinda surprising was that he didn't retire. :o


He Couldn't Afford to Retire or He will be "booed" by everyone except his loyal family of course!...:lol:

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 04:28 PM
You just don't understand tennis !
:lol: He's correct - Djokovic isn't catching up at all, Nadal demolished him today.

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-06-2008, 04:34 PM
Ő am soooooooooooooooooooooo happppppppppppppppppppy

Nadal is the best :cool:

:worship::worship::worship:

The Kaz
06-06-2008, 04:41 PM
Ì am soooooooooooooooooooooo happppppppppppppppppppy

Nadal is the best :cool:

:worship::worship::worship:

Thats good to hear Cleo :hug:

Rafa :yeah:

Take the title and show the world that you are the best claycourt player ever to have lived.

Pfft move over Borg, Rafa coming through ;)

tennizen
06-06-2008, 04:50 PM
Nadal's presser. Interesting:lol:

Q. There seemed to be times today when the crowd went very, very quiet, because they were completely struck by the level of play, the shots that you were playing. They could hardly believe what they were seeing. Did you get that impression, that they were almost dismayed?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, I didn't think. For that, you have to think a lot during the match. No, I just focus on try to play good.

The level of the two first sets was very good today. Almost perfect. So happy about, well, how I am playing today, no? Best match at Roland Garros so far, no?

Q. I mean, could you be in better form going into another Roland Garros final, do you think?

RAFAEL NADAL: What?

Q. Is it possible to be in better form than you are now going into another final here at Roland Garros?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, better than two first sets today is difficult, no? Because I play it very good. Always you can play better, but today I felt very good the ball with the forehand, with the backhand. I change the direction all the time with the forehand. Well, I was more inside the court, on court, than usually.

So I tell you, no? Today, I am very, very happy. Well, because it's difficult play like this, but it is more difficult play like this against one player like Djokovic, no?

Q. When you went up 3‑Love in the third. Was it hard to keep your concentration?

RAFAEL NADAL: No. I played a very, very bad game in 3‑0. I played a terrible game. Well, you know, it was decisive game, no? Probably a little bit nervous, because if I put the 4‑0 I win the match.

I had some mistakes, 3‑2, 15‑40, I saved this game, 4‑2. Well, the 5‑3, 15‑30 was the most important thing, no? Because I know I have to win the game returning, because after I go ‑‑ I come back to the against wind.

Djokovic is a big returner and he was playing better, and I know if I go for the 5‑4, going to be very tough match, very tough match for win, no?

Anyway, I have 30‑15. He put one forehand to the line. After I play very good point, but finally I finish with bad dropshot and he break me. So he has set point later.

Well, it was tough mentally, because you have the match totally under control, and for some moment you see the match is complicate. Give me a little bit more calm I was two sets up, no? Well, if he wants to beat me he has to play two more sets like this, no?

Q. Can you talk about the tiebreaker? Because you fight off the set point, you go into the tiebreaker, and start very fast, playing incredibly well. Just talk about your mentality when you start the tiebreaker.

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I analyze a little bit the situation, no? I was thinking for what reason I was playing unbelievable in the beginning? Well, two sets to Love, 3‑0, and having all the time the control of the point.

Right now he's having control of the point in the last games of the third set. So just thinking about this, and I take the decision, no? I have to win the court. I have to go more inside another time, because they was more inside. I thought the only reason is because he's more inside than me right now.

I try to go inside. Before tiebreak I think, I going to win in this tiebreak or I'm going to lose this tiebreak, but I going to do the things, no? And the things were good today. I play very good forehands.

Q. Did you notice Bjørn Borg sitting in the audience beyond the baseline? Any reaction to having him watching?

RAFAEL NADAL: No. Today I didn't see no one. (laughter.)

Q. If Federer wins, you'll play him again. You've beaten him eight of nine times on clay, three times in a row here. Do you ever feel like you have to make adjustments to your own game against him on clay?

RAFAEL NADAL: I'll always play against Federer is special, no? It's different atmosphere. It's different, no? The tactic, well, is always a little bit different.

But anyway, try to play my game, no? I know for him I have to play my best level. If it's not like this I never going to win him, beat him. But I just going to try my best. That's the best tactic: play very well.

Q. On the set point, that forehand, you knew you had to really hit a big one then?

RAFAEL NADAL: What?

Q. Your set point against you, your forehand.

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah, I remember.

Q. You really felt you had to hit a winner?

RAFAEL NADAL: The true? I didn't thought to hit the winner. The ball was winner, but he give me return, a little bit fast return, and I touch the ball fast. But I didn't thought about the winner before I touch the ball, no? Just tried to play a tough shot but safe shot.

Q. Safe?

RAFAEL NADAL: It was safe. Yes, the ball was winner, but two meters.

Q. Do you feel that this court is your home?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, is a special court for me, no? Unbelievable memory from this court. Always is a special feeling when I go to this court. When the court is full is really impressive. Is emotional for me every year when I come back here.

Just thanks very much everybody, because always the crowds are very respective with me. So thanks to organization, everything.

Q. Do you feel you can't lose on that court?

RAFAEL NADAL: I feel I can lose every time when I go to this court, so...

Q. When's the last time you've gotten very nervous here? Not a little bit nervous, but were really out playing and got really nervous where you had to take control of yourself.

RAFAEL NADAL: (From Spanish.) I am thinking. Well, a little bit against Mathieu first set, 2006 maybe it was. Against Grosjean with the problem with the crowd, 2005, I think. One set all break up, everything under control, and later was tough. No more times, I think. (laughter.)

THE MODERATOR: Spanish questions.

Q. It's kind of a routine for you to reach the final here. Were you having some fears with Djokovic, because in the Australian Open he played very well?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I wish it was routine for me. Things would be easier for me, but it's not at all. Not at all. I'm very happy I reached the final. I played a great tournament, and I'm going to do everything I can to try and reach the summit. That would be my fourth victory in a row here, and that would be wonderful.

Maybe the way the match turned out today turned out easier than I expected, because I was not expecting to play at this level. I was sort of expecting him to ‑‑ you know, it was difficult for me. I was very dominant on the court. I could throw the ball anywhere I wanted. I was dominating both on my forehand and backhand, and I didn't have to think that I could make mistakes. That was key.

And then Djokovic, you know, he is a great player, but his tennis was not as efficient as before. So things became more difficult for him. Despite the break in my favor, each time he had an opportunity he took it.

Q. After what happened today, you have no doubts we will have a Nadal/Federer final?

RAFAEL NADAL: We'll see. We'll see. That's going to be in a day and a half. It's going to be a different match. I will try and face history. Even if you're perfect, you have to wait and see what happens.

Q. On the third set you said you slowed down a bit, your level was probably going down a bit.

RAFAEL NADAL: No, no, I played a very bad game.

Q. Perhaps it's because you didn't play the way you would have liked it and the way you played during the second set, but don't you think he was also doing everything he could because that was his last opportunity?

RAFAEL NADAL: I was playing against one who had been the best player so far for this season. That's reality. So, you know, if you lose a bit of focus this is what happens. All of a sudden I started playing not as well, and then I had to think.

He had lost two sets. I started serving with the wind against me, so saved serve to come back to 3‑3. At 5‑3, 15‑30 for me, then I returned with the wind against me. Facing such a guy, because he can return very well, I knew he could have a break ball at 5‑4. I didn't play real bad, but he played slightly better at that stage.

Q. Have you had time to watch other matches during the tournament? Have you had time to watch Roger's matches? Have you had time to analyze them? Have you been impressed by anything? Do you think he's stepped up his game as compared to doubts he had at the beginning of this year?

RAFAEL NADAL: No. Well, you know, I don't watch tennis that much, you know. I like watching some matches, but I'm not keeping an eye on everything Federer does. I like playing him because it's just ‑‑ it's just wonderful playing against him, but I've not analyzed his matches.

To be honest with you, I've not seen him play here very much. Maybe one match, perhaps. Yeah, the match against Benneteau. That's the one I saw. And what else can I say?

You know, I think he plays very well, but when you said he was not playing well, trust me, I couldn't see that. Okay. He had some problems, he suffered ‑‑ he suffered an illness, glandular fever, and it's quite human to lose a match. He lost to Fish, to Radek, and to Djokovic in semifinal of the Australian Open.

But for the rest, I mean, he reached a very high level in each tournament he played. So this tournament here this year was a bit weird, a bit awkward. You know, he had some difficulties on some matches, more particularly with the one against Stepanek. It shows that things can be difficult for everybody, even for Federer.

But I think he has not played a bad match in many days and many months. He's been very robust on all the matches he played here, but it's also true he didn't have any difficult matches.

Q. What's the biggest danger for you in a match during, the final? And second, when did you have your toughest match against Federer?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, the big problem here when playing a final is your opponent. If I'm to play Federer, I know that this is the worst opponent you can have to fight against, because ‑‑ well, he's been my opponent three times in a row, but he always was the most difficult opponent to defeat.

For your second question, the toughest match was in Rome in 2006.

Q. The court was very windy today?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yes, more than the other days. You know, sometimes the wind creates some kind of whirlpools on the central court, and it's very difficult to play. That was the case today. At one stage...

Q. I thought you were almost desperate, because the same thing happened against Almagro the other day.

RAFAEL NADAL: Almagro? No, there was no wind.

Q. So I'm mistaken. But is it because you play a large number of matches on this court, or is it because it's the way you hit the ball?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, I don't think it has anything to do with the way I hit the ball. The way I hit the ball makes it possible for me to hit flatter balls against the wind, so it's easier to spin your ball.

You know, there are other players who could ‑‑ like Agassi ‑‑ that could play very well against the wind. They hit the ball very ‑‑ with lots of power and moving their wrist.

Q. It is the fourth year in a row that you come here and sit here behind this desk. Do you feel more nervous than before?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, I'm very comfortable. I've always been very calm so far, and I think everything is the same. Nothing's changed, no? The only thing that has changed is I'm three years older. I'm 22. I'm no longer a young player, a young promising player. I'm not a promising player anymore. Too bad.

As for the rest, that's pretty much the same thing. Bit nervous before playing a final, as usual, because a final is always an important match to play.

Q. Toni said he was ready to accept a defeat tomorrow. He said would go to the beach.

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah, he is going back Mallorca, whereas I'm going to play Queen's and then Wimbledon, so of course. Toni is going to play on the beach if he wants to; but when I walk on this court, I want to win.

I don't want to lose, but then anything can happen. Will I play again like today or like the one against Almagro? I know that I walk on the court and anything can happen, and I know it's going to be a pretty open match.

I don't want to think about losing, but I do accept the fact that this can happen.

Q. Coming back on your match today, you served very well. Sometimes aimed at Djokovic's weak points, but your serve was there when you needed it?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yes, absolutely. My serve was very useful. I aimed at him directly on two occasions. You know, Djokovic is an amazing guy when it comes to returns, so you have to vary your shots quite a lot.

If you serve him in the same way all the time, he gets used to it, and then he returns in a very powerful way. But I was also disturbed by the wind.

Q. So given your opponent, what was the pleasure you had playing him?

RAFAEL NADAL: I was really focused on myself. I knew I was playing at very high level, and I knew that if I managed to maintain this level, well, of course, the other one could have won.

But the way I analyzed the match, I thought it would be difficult for him to come back if I could continue playing the tennis I was playing at that stage.

But having fun? No, not really. I knew that I was playing well, and I was happy about that. So if you want to call it having fun, then, yes, okay. But taking into account the fact that you always need to be ready for the next shot, I was very focused. I wanted to remain focused. I wanted to get in the court more, which is what I did. Except at one stage during the third set when I stopped doing it, but my obsession was to serve very hard.

Q. Toni said you would not modify your tactics against Djokovic, because so far it had worked quite well. Now it's Federer coming, reaching the final. You're probably not going to change anything to your tactics against Federer.

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, tennis is an easy sport. You don't need to change anything when you do things well. All you need to do is continue playing well.

If I start coming to the net and playing volleys, fine. But if I manage to serve along the lines and if I manage to serve ‑‑ to play my long shots, everything's going to be fine. I'm not going to invent anything new for the final.

Things go well or things don't go well. They go well when you do what you know how to do. You sometimes modify the tactics because you adjust your passing shots or your backhand, but these are minor adjustments. Basically tennis is a very simple sport.

Q. The day before a final, is it a totally different day as compared to other days? For instance, will you have dinner in a restaurant? Will you be worried tonight thinking you have to play the final on Sunday? Will you eat this or that to feel fit on Sunday? Are you very relaxed? Are you more careful than other days?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, no, no, just every other day. If you are to eat something and you have difficulties digesting it, well, too bad. It's not going to change anything. I'm not going to start eating awkward things, anyway. (laughter.)

For instance, I'm not going to start eating things that might cause problems to my digestion. If you give me something to eat and eat and I'm sick tomorrow, trust me, you'll be in trouble. You start running fast. (laughter.)

aurora2006
06-06-2008, 04:56 PM
Yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes!!!!!!:bigclap :
Vamos Rafa!!!! :worship:

Smoke944
06-06-2008, 04:58 PM
Easy money. :cool:

morningglory
06-06-2008, 04:59 PM
yah yah yah clay is for pigs... was there any doubt? :yawn:

rofe
06-06-2008, 05:42 PM
No golden slam? :awww:

spriwi
06-06-2008, 05:45 PM
except for the 3rd set, massive spanking there :eek:

well done rafa :yeah:

TheSwissMaster
06-06-2008, 05:53 PM
damn, im ashamed of even thinking djoko to be nadals successor, even fed wouldve given a better fight.

zcess81
06-06-2008, 05:56 PM
damn, im ashamed of even thinking djoko to be nadals successor, even fed wouldve given a better fight.

You mean Fed's successor.

ChinoRios4Ever
06-06-2008, 06:00 PM
yesssssssssssssssss

vamos Rafa :bounce:

TheSwissMaster
06-06-2008, 06:03 PM
You mean Fed's successor.

no i meant on clay where rafa is the king

sawan66278
06-06-2008, 06:48 PM
Another impressive performance...except for the loss of concentration in the third. VAMOS!

Clay Death
06-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Another impressive performance...except for the loss of concentration in the third. VAMOS!


agreed. he really should have just closed it out on his serve. he did have to summon his famous resolve once again in the tiebreaker to tighten his game up.

66 winners (including service) and 16 unforced errors against Djokovic who hits a big ball and moves like a cat is exceptional. Djokovic hit something like 21 winners in that last set alone and still lost the set. just goes to show that you cant hit enough winners against the Clay Monster.

a clean match like this one will absolutely kill Fed on sunday.

memo to Fed: pray for death.

Bad Religion
06-06-2008, 07:01 PM
What a fucking clown you are Nadal . You don´t demolish to both , Federer or Djokovic on red clay . OTOH , I have seen many demolition from they both against Rafa on other surfaces

Rafa in an era with good claycourters would have not dominated. I mean , Djokovic doesnt qualify as a great claycourter and won 1 set in Hamburg , 6 games in a set today

Like I said , Disgusting 7 - 6 in the third set :o . Any clown can do a good match to Rafa

Ceri
06-06-2008, 07:03 PM
YES! Excellent, if expected, result. Good job Rafa.

groundstroke
06-06-2008, 07:17 PM
agreed. he really should have just closed it out on his serve. he did have to summon his famous resolve once again in the tiebreaker to tighten his game up.

66 winners (including service) and 16 unforced errors against Djokovic who hits a big ball and moves like a cat is exceptional. Djokovic hit something like 21 winners in that last set alone and still lost the set. just goes to show that you cant hit enough winners against the Clay Monster.

a clean match like this one will absolutely kill Fed on sunday.

memo to Fed: pray for death.
Djokovic had poor movement, he played very, very poor, as usual. The difference between the top 2 and all the other players is amazing.

ASP0315
06-06-2008, 07:21 PM
thank goodness the faker lost.

Nadal you clown, you should have bagelled him in the third. anyway congratulations.
good luck in the final

Kuhne
06-06-2008, 08:01 PM
Rafa was lucky Djokovic couldn't capitalize in his chances, Djoko should have taken that third set (then bageled in the fourth) but hey Im not complaining, the more humiliating the defeat against djokovic the better. If Djokovic won today I actualy made some money and I still wanted him to lose

star
06-06-2008, 08:09 PM
I think that was one of Nadal's best pressers. It showed humor, self-awareness, tennis knowledge, humility, pride, and maturity. He's an impressive young man. I couldn't resist quoting my favorite parts -- which you know is practically the whole thing!

Q. Did you get that impression, that they [the crowd] were almost dismayed?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, I didn't think. For that, you have to think a lot during the match. No, I just focus on try to play good.

:lol: Reminds me of the quote "Purity of heart is to will one thing and one thing only."

Always you can play better, but today I felt very good the ball with the forehand, with the backhand.

I love it when he feels very good the ball. :inlove:

So I tell you, no? Today, I am very, very happy. Well, because it's difficult play like this, but it is more difficult play like this against one player like Djokovic, no?

:worship:

No. I played a very, very bad game in 3‑0. I played a terrible game. Well, you know, it was decisive game, no? Probably a little bit nervous, because if I put the 4‑0 I win the match.

:bigclap: for admitting it

Well, it was tough mentally, because you have the match totally under control, and for some moment you see the match is complicate. Give me a little bit more calm I was two sets up, no? Well, if he wants to beat me he has to play two more sets like this, no?

Reminds me of Borg and things he used to say -- with out the "no?" :lol:

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I analyze a little bit the situation, no? I was thinking for what reason I was playing unbelievable in the beginning? Well, two sets to Love, 3‑0, and having all the time the control of the point.

Right now he's having control of the point in the last games of the third set. So just thinking about this, and I take the decision, no? I have to win the court. I have to go more inside another time, because they was more inside. I thought the only reason is because he's more inside than me right now.

I try to go inside. Before tiebreak I think, I going to win in this tiebreak or I'm going to lose this tiebreak, but I going to do the things, no? And the things were good today.

So this for all those who think Rafael simply bashes the ball without though. :p


That's the best tactic: play very well.

:bigclap:


The true? I didn't thought to hit the winner. The ball was winner, but he give me return, a little bit fast return, and I touch the ball fast. But I didn't thought about the winner before I touch the ball, no? Just tried to play a tough shot but safe shot.

:lol: a fantastic, amazing shot is a safe shot. :)

Q. Do you feel you can't lose on that court?

RAFAEL NADAL: I feel I can lose every time when I go to this court, so...

:yeah: stay humble. stay grounded.

Q. When's the last time you've gotten very nervous here? Not a little bit nervous, but were really out playing and got really nervous where you had to take control of yourself.

RAFAEL NADAL: (From Spanish.) I am thinking. Well, a little bit against Mathieu first set, 2006 maybe it was. Against Grosjean with the problem with the crowd, 2005, I think. One set all break up, everything under control, and later was tough. No more times, I think. (laughter.)

:eek: :eek: That's it?


You know, I think he plays very well, but when you said he was not playing well, trust me, I couldn't see that.... It shows that things can be difficult for everybody, even for Federer.

Always the considerate gentleman. :clap2:


RAFAEL NADAL: No, I'm very comfortable. I've always been very calm so far, and I think everything is the same. Nothing's changed, no? The only thing that has changed is I'm three years older. I'm 22. I'm no longer a young player, a young promising player. I'm not a promising player anymore. Too bad.

Again, so self aware. :kiss:

Q. Toni said he was ready to accept a defeat tomorrow. He said would go to the beach.

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah, he is going back Mallorca, whereas I'm going to play Queen's and then Wimbledon, so of course. Toni is going to play on the beach if he wants to; but when I walk on this court, I want to win.

:rocker:


I don't want to think about losing, but I do accept the fact that this can happen.


But having fun? No, not really. I knew that I was playing well, and I was happy about that. So if you want to call it having fun, then, yes, okay. But taking into account the fact that you always need to be ready for the next shot, I was very focused. I wanted to remain focused. I wanted to get in the court more, which is what I did. Except at one stage during the third set when I stopped doing it, but my obsession was to serve very hard.

I like this obsession :lol:


RAFAEL NADAL: Well, tennis is an easy sport. You don't need to change anything when you do things well. All you need to do is continue playing well.
Things go well or things don't go well. They go well when you do what you know how to do. You sometimes modify the tactics because you adjust your passing shots or your backhand, but these are minor adjustments. Basically tennis is a very simple sport.

For Nadal, it is simple. :)

If you give me something to eat and eat and I'm sick tomorrow, trust me, you'll be in trouble. You start running fast. (laughter.)

:lol:

MIMIC
06-06-2008, 08:12 PM
Nadal was pretty much unstoppable but Djokovic had some brilliant comebacks. He had a set point but Nadal snatched it back.

If Djokovic couldn't beat Nadal, Federer sure as hell can't.

Mansave_75
06-06-2008, 08:18 PM
:worship: Congrats Rafa! :worship:
You make me very proud of being a spaniard.
Now let's go for the fourth title.
We love you.
:worship:

Eden
06-06-2008, 08:34 PM
Another proof that matches over best of 3 aren't an indicator to what will happen in a best of 5 match. Djokovic made the same experience as Hewitt last year, who pushed Rafa to 3 sets in Hamburg and then got wiped off the court in Paris in straight sets.

Second consecutive year for Rafa to go into the RG final without having lost a set. Truly impressive.

Good tournament for Djokovic nevertheless.

star
06-06-2008, 08:35 PM
Nadal was pretty much unstoppable but Djokovic had some brilliant comebacks. He had a set point but Nadal snatched it back.

If Djokovic couldn't beat Nadal, Federer sure as hell can't.

I think every day is different. We don't know how they will both pull up. We don't know the conditions on the day. We can't say how nerves and pressure will affect either of them on the day. Both are human. Federer plays differently than Djokovic. I think Federer has a good chance. Nadal says Federer is the most difficult opponent to beat. So, I don't think beating Djokovic means too much about Nadal beating Federer.

star
06-06-2008, 08:37 PM
Nadal whips Djokovic AND his whole **** of a family.

I think there was only one person on the court opposite Nadal.

Eden
06-06-2008, 08:40 PM
If Djokovic couldn't beat Nadal, Federer sure as hell can't.

Have a look at the matches between Djokovic and Nadal and Federer and Nadal on clay. Djokovic was able to get one set in their matches so far, whilst Roger has truly challenged Rafa a lot more.

raven gypsy
06-06-2008, 08:54 PM
I love it when he feels very good the ball. :inlove:



Me, too. :lol:

Clara Bow
06-06-2008, 09:04 PM
star like you I really enjoyed Rafa's presser. For some reason I really liked the following

RAFAEL NADAL: No, I'm very comfortable. I've always been very calm so far, and I think everything is the same. Nothing's changed, no? The only thing that has changed is I'm three years older. I'm 22. I'm no longer a young player, a young promising player. I'm not a promising player anymore. Too bad.

Awwww.

Manon
06-06-2008, 09:18 PM
Nadal is unbeatable man on clay.

tangerine_dream
06-06-2008, 09:41 PM
"Now, comparing myself to Borg, I mean, how could I dare do that?" asked Nadal, who said he did not spot Borg sitting in the President's box on Saturday. "He was one of the top three players in all the history of tennis. Thank you very much. That's very kind of you comparing me to such a huge player."

:worship: There's never a hint of arrogance or self-congratulatory rhetoric from him. It's exceptional how he carries himself. Still only 22.

cmurray
06-06-2008, 10:30 PM
My favorite part of the presser was

"If you give me something to eat and eat and I'm sick tomorrow, trust me, you'll be in trouble. You start running fast."

:haha: When he's not talking out of his ass, Rafa gives wonderful pressers. :inlove:

Tnn74
06-06-2008, 10:37 PM
Congrats Rafa! :bounce:
now one more win to go!!!
go get 'em kiddo! :hug:

RonE
06-07-2008, 12:07 AM
:zzz:

l_mac
06-07-2008, 12:25 AM
I think that was one of Nadal's best pressers. It showed humor, self-awareness, tennis knowledge, humility, pride, and maturity. He's an impressive young man. I couldn't resist quoting my favorite parts -- which you know is practically the whole thing!



:lol: Reminds me of the quote "Purity of heart is to will one thing and one thing only."



I love it when he feels very good the ball. :inlove:

:worship:



:bigclap: for admitting it



Reminds me of Borg and things he used to say -- with out the "no?" :lol:



So this for all those who think Rafael simply bashes the ball without though.



:bigclap:




:lol: a fantastic, amazing shot is a safe shot. :)



:yeah: stay humble. stay grounded.



:eek: :eek: That's it?




Always the considerate gentleman. :clap2:




Again, so self aware. :kiss:



:rocker:







I like this obsession :lol:




For Nadal, it is simple. :)



:lol:

"Now, comparing myself to Borg, I mean, how could I dare do that?" asked Nadal, who said he did not spot Borg sitting in the President's box on Saturday. "He was one of the top three players in all the history of tennis. Thank you very much. That's very kind of you comparing me to such a huge player."

:worship: There's never a hint of arrogance or self-congratulatory rhetoric from him. It's exceptional how he carries himself. Still only 22.
Oh, I like it so much better when we are celebrating Rafa wins and on the same page, ladies!

Loved the presser. Loved it.
:zzz:

He played great, didn't he? Too bad for McNoleo :banana:

luie
06-07-2008, 12:31 AM
Well done nadal,,show the world that novak is not gaining on you on CLAY....
FED please put up more of a fight on sunday....

littleash
06-07-2008, 12:46 AM
horseface lost :woohoo:

Sunset of Age
06-07-2008, 01:34 AM
:zzz:

You've become a NoleTard, Ron? :sad: :sad: :sad: :p

krystlel
06-07-2008, 02:20 AM
The first set of the match was good, even though Nadal was quite dominant. Nadal played some amazing tennis at times, and other times was more content to play things a bit more safe. I liked the way he was hitting his backhand early in the first set and when he was mixing up his forehand and not hitting it crosscourt as much. Nadal showed in this match that he can step it up and play even better than he does in the majority of his matches if he needs to which is a scary thought.

Wally Masur made a good point that Nadal went for his shots to get the break of serve but would often play within himself once he got ahead, which allowed Djokovic to get back into it in the third set then Nadal steamed straight ahead to take the tie-breaker.

I didn't expect Djokovic's spirit to be broken that early in the second set, but to be fair, he did get it back together in the third (more because he was in a hopeless position though and relaxed) and Nadal was playing some brilliant stuff at times.

Laba
06-07-2008, 03:36 AM
Great first two sets from Rafa, Novak couldn't provide any answers at all. At 3-0 in the third, I expected a steamroll right through but then dropped that assault-mentality and took his foot off the pedal. Being #3 in the world, you'd expect Nole to fight back and snatch the opportunity which is exactly what he did... only to earn a set point and then get bitch-slapped with a crosscourt forehand winner. That point right there shows that it wasn't Nadal unable to continue his play, but more that he chose to defend more and not be so aggressive.

While I would have preferred a bakery product in the third set, I really think the tight finish actually benefits Rafa more since it'll give him that extra bit of edge and confidence if a set against Fed also gets to that kind of stage. I want to see Rafa come out swinging and firing like he did against Djokovic... 'cause if he does, he will win this French Open without dropping a set. :)

Kuhne
06-07-2008, 04:06 AM
I would have been so pissed if Djokovic won this semi.. I would have been 100 bucks richer but mad as hell to the point of probably stop watching tennis for a while. I don't care if Djokovic wins wimbledon, fuck that, Roger already won 5 of them he earned his break but if Novak managed to win the australian open and the french open in the same year + beating Nadal in the process he would have already achieved something Roger never did and that would make him unbearable and his family even worst.

Never in doubt though, Djokovic got his ass ***** lile the little bitch he is.

and now it's time for Roger to bend over in sunday :)

star
06-07-2008, 04:37 AM
Oh, I like it so much better when we are celebrating Rafa wins and on the same page, ladies!

Loved the presser. Loved it.


He played great, didn't he? Too bad for McNoleo :banana:

Seriously his best presser EVER! Really great. I've read some really good press conferences, but this one -- it's got to be among the tops. Very insightful, honest, and even vulnerable.

Polikarpov
06-07-2008, 04:43 AM
Nadal was in scary form.

sheeter
06-07-2008, 04:51 AM
some of the points towards the end were crazy good!

HarryMan
06-07-2008, 05:04 AM
Its just unreal, What a phenomena this guy is on clay!!

Chiseller
06-07-2008, 05:07 AM
These snippets of the presser are hilarious :lol:

Knightmace
06-07-2008, 06:05 AM
Nadal was too good.

Di-marat
06-07-2008, 06:39 AM
Congratulations Nadal.!! You did it in three sets because the joker had no serves.

Forehander
06-07-2008, 07:31 AM
Nadal defended his points on clay..... WOW WHAT A SURPRISE!!!!

DhammaTiger
06-07-2008, 10:04 AM
I found this article on The Guardian. It's quite interesting and I thought I will share it with you. However, I am sure this will attract a lot of hate and negativity to Rafa, but I still post it because it's very fresh way of looking at Rafa's game

Nadal playing a whole new ball-game Rafael Nadal's latest destruction of Novak Djokovic continued his unprecedented dominance of one of the French OpenJon Henderson guardian.co.uk, Friday June 6 2008
Rafael Nadal playing on the clay of Roland Garros is no longer sport as we have come to know it, where individuals or teams compete against each other for the prize of victory. It is more a recital with the player on the other side of the net acting as an instrument on which the Spaniard gives his virtuoso performance.

If a player as accomplished as Novak Djokovic is reduced to a mere instrument by Nadal, as he was for most of the men's semi-final today, there is not much chance that anyone else, including the world No1 Roger Federer, can hope to beat the French Open's unbeaten men's champion. After all, Djokovic was a brilliant winner of the Australian Open, the year's first grand slam, in January, is ranked No3 in the world and would have overtaken Nadal in the rankings had he won today.

In the event, Nadal administered a merciless thrashing, winning 6-4, 6-2, 7-6 (7-3) to eliminate the 21-year-old Serb from the tournament for the third year running without having conceded a set to him in any of these matches. The result gave Nadal a perfect 27-0 record in the clay-court game's premier tournament, representing the sort of dominance that no one has established from the outset of competing in one of the four grand slams. In a less competitive age, Bjorn Borg won six French titles, but he was beaten on his first visit to Paris in 1973 and his sequence was interrupted when he lost a quarter-final in 1976.

Nadal, 22, plays a left-handed version of the type of baseline game that Borg, who watched today's massacre from the stands, used to play. But Nadal plays it more energetically, more aggressively and imparts even more whirring top-spin, which not only makes the ball spit up viciously off the clay but ensures it continues to rotate menacingly through the air, creating an added difficulty for the receiver. Only in the matter of pinpoint accuracy might Borg have challenged Nadal.

Nadal, who is now into his fourth Paris final in a row - something last achieved by Ivan Lendl in 1987 - did nothing unexpected to snuff out Djokovic's challenge. He never does. Surprise is not his thing. Ruthless execution of a familiar pattern of play is how he operates, match in match out. Keep the ball in play, take no risks, manoeuvre the opposition into a defensive position and then roast him with a fierce, flat drive. It sounds simple but executed at the speed and intensity that Nadal brings to his play it is anything but.

http://http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jun/06/frenchopen.tennis1

DhammaTiger
06-07-2008, 10:09 AM
Here is another article I found on the same site. This one is more of a news report of the unfolding drama in the match.
French Open: Ruthless Nadal crushes Djokovic to reach finalSpaniard outclasses world No3 with ruthless display
Les Roopanarine guardian.co.uk, Friday June 6 2008 Article history
Rafael Nadal. Photograph: Horacio Villalobos/EPA

How best to measure the extent of Rafael Nadal's dominance on the red clay of Roland Garros? The Spaniard's clinical 6-4, 6-2, 7-6 semi-final victory over Novak Djokovic was his 27th in succession at the French Open. He has never been beaten at the tournament, winning it three times in a row, and now stands within one victory of equalling Bjorn Borg's open-era record of four consecutive titles. It seems almost unimaginable that he will not break the Swedish master's landmark. He is 22 years old.

Nothing, though, could speak more eloquently of Nadal's Parisian mastery than the ruthless ease with which - a late but ultimately futile show of tenacity from his beleaguered opponent aside - he roundly humbled Djokovic, the reigning Australian Open champion, world No3 and most consistent performer on the men's tour this year.

Djokovic, who turned up expecting a play-off for the world No2 ranking, must for the most part have felt like a spectator at his own execution. There is a smooth elegance about Djokovic in full flight, but Nadal at times made him look awkward, throwing the Serb off balance with a relentless barrage of ground strokes.

Forced to save a break point as early as the opening game, Djokovic was broken in the third and was never again in genuine contention until the closing stages, when a spirited fightback saw him break Nadal as the Spaniard served for the match at 5-4 in the third set.

It was to prove only a temporary reprieve. Nadal held firm to take the set into a tie-break before opening up a 6-0 lead with another baseline deluge. Djokovic tenaciously clawed back three match points, but the fourth proved a challenge too far, Nadal angling away a smash to reach the final Sunday for the fourth year in a row.

Victory would bring the Spaniard level with Henri Cochet, the legendary French musketeer of the 1920s and 30s. Only Borg, who lifted the Coupe des Mousquetaires six times, and Max Décugis, whose record eight titles came in the days when the tournament was open only to French citizens, have won more. History may yet prove Nadal's most formidable opponent.

http://http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jun/06/frenchopen.tennis2

star
06-07-2008, 01:19 PM
I hope Nadal makes history.

I also think what we saw is that a very small drop in Nadal's level allowed Djokovic to play the way he wanted to play and was not able to play. These shifts are very small. One can't play at a peak level a whole best of 5 match. So how Nadal manages his level of play is very important. The mental battle is enormous.

tennizen
06-07-2008, 01:23 PM
Nadal defended his points on clay..... WOW WHAT A SURPRISE!!!!

No:sad: There's still the final to be played. And the lost 500 points in Rome.

robiht
06-07-2008, 01:26 PM
No:sad: There's still the final to be played. And the lost 500 points in Rome.

But he won in hamburg 2008,and in 2007 he lost the final.So...

tennizen
06-07-2008, 01:28 PM
But he won in hamburg 2008,and in 2007 he lost the final.So...

It doesn't make up for the lost points completely. I think its 375 for the final 500 for the win so only 125 additional points. So down by 375 points from last year I think.

scarecrows
06-07-2008, 01:31 PM
It doesn't make up for the lost points completely. I think its 375 for the final 500 for the win so only 125 additional points. So down by 375 points from last year I think.

370 :p he won 5 points in rome

tennizen
06-07-2008, 01:44 PM
370 :p he won 5 points in rome

:ras: I was waiting for someone to come and do that correction. You just couldn't resist:p:p

Clay Death
06-07-2008, 01:45 PM
I found this article on The Guardian. It's quite interesting and I thought I will share it with you. However, I am sure this will attract a lot of hate and negativity to Rafa, but I still post it because it's very fresh way of looking at Rafa's game


http://http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jun/06/frenchopen.tennis1


just one more match and the psychological damage done to the Fed and the rest of the opposition can never be overcome.

nobody will ever believe--as long as Nadal is around--that he can be defeated on the red clay of Roland Garros.

this will effectively open the flood gates for 4-5 more titles there at Roland Garros. we have to take into account that he is 22 by barely 6 days so he will also be getting better than he already is. that is absolute immortality for the Clay Monster.

all he has to do is destroy Fed just one more time on sunday. it looks like he has the formula now for the destruction of Fed. its called unrelenting iron will. he will play for 6 hours if he has to but he will leave Paris with his 4th title.

Fed will be left humiliated both physically and mentally. he will have nothing left in the 4th hour of the match.

DhammaTiger
06-07-2008, 02:27 PM
Rafa is the best and the greatest I have ever watched since I started viewing tennis in 1968. When Rafa play it really inspires me to play tennis. His exuberence and total concentration on court is so inspiring. I am sure I will receive many bad reps for this post, but this is my opinion and right or wrong everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Vamos Rafa!

star
06-07-2008, 02:28 PM
just one more match and the psychological damage done to the Fed and the rest of the opposition can never be overcome.

nobody will ever believe--as long as Nadal is around--that he can be defeated on the red clay of Roland Garros.

this will effectively open the flood gates for 4-5 more titles there at Roland Garros. we have to take into account that he is 22 by barely 6 days so he will also be getting better than he already is. that is absolute immortality for the Clay Monster.

all he has to do is destroy Fed just one more time on sunday. it looks like he has the formula now for the destruction of Fed. its called unrelenting iron will. he will play for 6 hours if he has to but he will leave Paris with his 4th title.

Fed will be left humiliated both physically and mentally. he will have nothing left in the 4th hour of the match.

You make it seem foreordained, but it is definitely not. Federer has a real chance of beating Nadal tomorrow. It's not like there is such a huge gap between the two. Federer wants to win very badly, and he is a great competitor with a great deal of pride. Nadal will have to play very well and not have any physical problems.

l_mac
06-07-2008, 04:23 PM
370 :p he won 5 points in rome

:ras: I was waiting for someone to come and do that correction. You just couldn't resist:p:p

Both wrong - it's 350 for reaching the final, so he is either going to be -345 or -645 for the clay season. :dance: