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Who Is Faster? Monfils or Nadal?

Perfection
06-04-2008, 05:50 PM
Monfils really impressed me with his movement today. Do you agree with Lleyton Hewitt when he says Monfils is the fastest player hes ever played?

Fumus
06-04-2008, 05:51 PM
Hewitt said Monfils.

Nadal moves better on a tennis court, however.

scoobs
06-04-2008, 05:52 PM
He's not the fastest, he just stands well back, has the long limbs, and slides a lot and controls the balls well on defensive shots.

Once Ferrer did genuinely get the ball out wide and Monfils had to make up a lot of ground, Monfils was nowhere in sight usually.

ReturnWinner
06-04-2008, 05:53 PM
he is very fast and plays pretty far from the baseline plus he has pretty long arms so those two things make his reach pretty long but i think Ferrer and Coria are faster.

groundstroke
06-04-2008, 05:54 PM
Definitely not. You cannot judge from that. When Ferrer played the ball out wide with some angle, Monfils was no where to be seen. Not only does Monfils not come close to sliding as well as Nadal on both sides, but he no confidence, no game, nothing like Nadal that uses his pace to take control.
Coria was also very fast.

Fumus
06-04-2008, 05:59 PM
Blake is really fast, and Grosjean in his day used to be the fastest offensive mover I thought.

Clay Death
06-04-2008, 06:04 PM
He's not the fastest, he just stands well back, has the long limbs, and slides a lot and controls the balls well on defensive shots.

Once Ferrer did genuinely get the ball out wide and Monfils had to make up a lot of ground, Monfils was nowhere in sight usually.


the best movers in the game are Fed, Djokovic, and Nadal. the fastest (one with the most speed) might be Blake.

that said, Monfils is a great athlete. i would say that Nadal may be a little faster than Monfils.

The Freak
06-04-2008, 06:04 PM
Hewitt said that Monfils runs down more balls than Nadal does on clay. His length puts him ahead of Nadal in my opinion.

Merton
06-04-2008, 06:07 PM
Monfils easily, however Nadal anticipates much better.

Fumus
06-04-2008, 06:07 PM
Again though, seriously...who cares. It's liking asking which player bench presses the most. Great movement on court has to do with technical footwork, Monfils isn't even close to the top dogs in that respect.

Boris Franz Ecker
06-04-2008, 06:14 PM
Nadal is average concerning speed.
He knows how to omit this

scoobs
06-04-2008, 06:14 PM
Again though, seriously...who cares. It's liking asking which player bench presses the most. Great movement on court has to do with technical footwork, Monfils isn't even close to the top dogs in that respect.
True.

Not just getting there, anyway, it's what you do when you arrive, and in my view, nobody touches Nadal in getting something effective back from deep defense.

Clay Death
06-04-2008, 06:18 PM
True.

Not just getting there, anyway, it's what you do when you arrive, and in my view, nobody touches Nadal in getting something effective back from deep defense.

that is because he is a monster. Clay Monster, that is. just incredible pace from deep defensive positions considering he is 40,000 meters behind the baseline sometimes.

Monteque
06-04-2008, 06:42 PM
Nadal...probably

dodoboy
06-04-2008, 06:54 PM
Gael, Nadal uses his speed more wisely though because when he gets to the ball he will do more with it.

Acer
06-04-2008, 07:06 PM
If Hewitt said that then I'll have to agree.

Stefwhit
06-04-2008, 07:09 PM
This is how I'd rank the fastest men on tour:

1. Blake
2. Nadal
3. Monfils
4. Davydenko
5. Federer / Djokovic

Adler
06-04-2008, 07:21 PM
Federer is not that lightning fast, he's got great anticipation, he rather makes leaps or steps than runs. So does Djokovic

On the other side are Nadal, Davydenko and Blake, with great speed in their legs

dmit424
06-04-2008, 07:59 PM
I remember Blake said something like that about him also a few French Opens ago (or maybe last year?). Tough to say. Monfils has a great feel for clay movement and his long limbs and body make him equal at covering court as Nadal, especially on clay. If Hewitt said it, if Blake said it, if the commentators said it today, and if it looks like it too, it might just be true. However, his long limbs probably mean his immediate acceleration isn't quite as good as Nadal's, so in a 100m sprint, I would take Nadal. However, in any longer distance, I'm going with Monfils. Once Monfils gets going with those long legs, he gets to places with just a few steps. Someone here was saying he doesn't have the foot-speed, but just slides and reaches to balls. Sort of true. In fact, it IS true that he doesn't have the same foot speed, but he covers way more ground with each step than Nadal or Blake.

Monfils actually moves sort of life Djokovic, just better at it.

dmit424
06-04-2008, 08:05 PM
Federer is not that lightning fast, he's got great anticipation, he rather makes leaps or steps than runs. So does Djokovic

On the other side are Nadal, Davydenko and Blake, with great speed in their legs

I sort of dis-agree about Djokovic. I think he has good foot speed. The only reason it isn't like Nadal's, Davydenko's, or Blake's is because he is long-limbed and isn't built for quick acceleration. Basically, for his height, Djokovic is as good. He just has a different body, more like a high jumper or long-jumper, or like a 400m runner rather than a 100m. I think Djokovic is as talented athletically and in movement as any of those guys. They might beat him in a 100m, but if we had an event consisting of 100m, 200m, 400m, 1000m, Djokovic would place right at the top overall.

Also, Davydenko, like Hewitt, isn't nearly the pure-speed mover as Nadal and Blake. He, like Hewitt, is quick no doubt, but both are helped by their small weight and it enables them to change direction and accelerate on a dime. This is why they look fast on a tennis court, but I think Nadal would destroy Davydenko in a 100m sprint.

dmit424
06-04-2008, 08:11 PM
By the way, Olympic sprinters always reach their top speeds (not top times) in the 200, not the 100. That's because they need more than 100m to get to full speed. Tennis players never have to run more than 25 or so meters from point A to point B before they have to switch direction, and thus guys like Davydenko and Hewitt, who aren't really good sprinters (Blake, Nadal, Monfils, even Djokovic and Federer would probably beat them in the 200) aren't hurt by this lack of top-speed on the tennis court because no tennis player ever sprints at their top speed on the court, anyways. But what Hewitt and Davydenko DO do well is stop on a dime and change direction, or accelerate quickly. This is because they weigh nothing. And another factor is lighter players reach their personal top speed quicker than heavier players (same goes for sprinters), so essentially, a guy like Davydenko can get closer to his top-speed than Blake can, even though Blake's top-speed is faster, and then Davy can also change direction quicker than Blake. Thus, Davydenko moves as well as Blake, or better.

Nadal is a better athlete than Blake or Davy, though, pure and simple. His top sprint speed is probably faster, and he can change direction as fast as Davyednko too, even though he weighs way more than Davy. Nadal = better athlete, pure and simple.

Burrow
06-04-2008, 09:26 PM
You can't say from just running round a court, you'd have to have them doing some sort of race.

peterparker
06-04-2008, 09:27 PM
I sort of dis-agree about Djokovic. I think he has good foot speed. The only reason it isn't like Nadal's, Davydenko's, or Blake's is because he is long-limbed and isn't built for quick acceleration. Basically, for his height, Djokovic is as good. He just has a different body, more like a high jumper or long-jumper, or like a 400m runner rather than a 100m. I think Djokovic is as talented athletically and in movement as any of those guys. They might beat him in a 100m, but if we had an event consisting of 100m, 200m, 400m, 1000m, Djokovic would place right at the top overall.

Also, Davydenko, like Hewitt, isn't nearly the pure-speed mover as Nadal and Blake. He, like Hewitt, is quick no doubt, but both are helped by their small weight and it enables them to change direction and accelerate on a dime. This is why they look fast on a tennis court, but I think Nadal would destroy Davydenko in a 100m sprint.


Djoko's footspeed, court coverage is overrated by the commentators (certainly gimelstob), certainly you never see him defend like Nadal/Federer, although that's partly because they have better hands.

But he has massive power on the run (unlike federer and nadal); seems very limber. So all is not lost against the top 2.

Parker

GlennMirnyi
06-04-2008, 09:29 PM
Berrer.

peterparker
06-04-2008, 09:32 PM
Blake is really fast, and Grosjean in his day used to be the fastest offensive mover I thought.

Grosjean was incredibly quick, and had an incredibly quick trigger on that forehand. Some fast hands, would liked to have seen more of him,

Parker

jcempire
06-05-2008, 01:22 AM
Monfils

But it doesn't matter. Nadal will beat Monfils in the Final that's what I look to see

I hope Monfils be there

Albop
06-05-2008, 01:24 AM
Who caressss??

martine2
06-05-2008, 06:50 AM
The piggy outruns the panther here, but it's about technique not about pure speed because then the panther would win IMO

Knightmace
06-05-2008, 08:46 AM
Both evenly matched.

jpatatsos
06-05-2008, 09:03 AM
nadal