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Who will win more slams, Nadal or Djokovic?

dmit424
06-01-2008, 04:30 AM
When all is said and done, who will win more Slams?

finishingmove
06-01-2008, 04:39 AM
roger federer , before anyone else says it.

hra87
06-01-2008, 04:52 AM
I'm still trying to block the memory of Djokovic winning AO. Please don't bring it up again.

finishingmove
06-01-2008, 05:25 AM
Funny how the fedtards are voting against djokovic in this poll. It amuses me greatly.

azza
06-01-2008, 05:31 AM
Federer

Mechlan
06-01-2008, 05:36 AM
Funny how the fedtards are voting against djokovic in this poll. It amuses me greatly.

There are two votes for Nadal so far. :haha:

leng jai
06-01-2008, 05:39 AM
I don't understand how these poll options are relevant to the question besides the middle one.

dmit424
06-01-2008, 05:41 AM
I don't understand how these poll options are relevant to the question besides the middle one.

example: Nadal will win 3+ more slams than Djokovic

prima donna
06-01-2008, 05:42 AM
Djokovic.

leng jai
06-01-2008, 05:45 AM
example: Nadal will win 3+ more slams than Djokovic

Okay, makes sense. Carry on.

finishingmove
06-01-2008, 05:45 AM
There are two votes for Nadal so far. :haha:

two too much

Knightmace
06-01-2008, 05:59 AM
Nadal。

Emmaloo
06-01-2008, 06:05 AM
There are two votes for Nadal so far. :haha:

You also can't see who's voting for what. :rolleyes:

Monteque
06-01-2008, 07:15 AM
Djokovic=all around player
Nadal=typically clay court specialist.

I hate to say this, but Nole has a bigger chance to get more slams than Nadal not far just maybe 1 or 2 more than Nadal. They just 21 and 20 though so u cant say more.

Rogiman
06-01-2008, 07:16 AM
Nole, 1-2 more.

gjr
06-01-2008, 07:29 AM
If Rafa keeps winning RG then my guess it will depend on if he can win Wimbledon. You don't get to 2 Wimbledon finals if you can't play on grass. Nadal could become the new Borg.

If his body holds together Rafa could win RG maybe 7 or 8 times. If Fed starts to lose it on grass Rafa could win a few Wimbledon's.

Nole could start to dominate the hard court slams but there are more people who can have a great day on hard court than those who can on clay or grass.

And of course there are always the players who are just around the corner that no-one knows of as yet. As for the poll I went for Nadal at +3

Petrovic
06-01-2008, 08:02 AM
Јoker is all surface player and he will be dangerous on grass.
Hard courts are his and maybe Wimbledon .
Rafa is not in same class on HC v Joker or Fed .
So i think Joker will take more GS than rafa.

rafa_maniac
06-01-2008, 09:00 AM
I expect Rafa will end up with about 6-7 slams. Probably 5 or 6 RG's and 1 or 2 elsewhere, one being Wimbly. I would say Djoko could manage the same. While he's the premier player on hard courts now, I don't think he'll ever manage Federer like domination. People seem to totally underestimate how hard it is to win even 3 or 4 Grand Slams. Look at Safin, post 2000 US Open he looked to be heading the same direction as Djokovic is now. Even if Djoko has an Agassi like career, that's still "only" 7 or 8 slams, essentially I'm saying I think they will end their careers with roughly equal numbers of Slams.

Manon
06-01-2008, 11:33 AM
Yet another crystal ball pool. We could talk about their game, to compare, whatever...no, we are pooling who will win more GS, MS, TS, MR, UW, AX....I don't know what else.

Punky
01-13-2012, 08:49 PM
We all know Rafa has 10 and novak 4 and that novak is a year younger BUT novak look good on every surface so do you think he has a chance of stoping nadal at 10 and win another 7 Slams?

i know it's a longgggg road to that but what are his chances?

Saberq
01-13-2012, 08:52 PM
In theory but Nadal will win more Slams so no

coonster14
01-13-2012, 09:14 PM
I don't think so, I think Nole ends his career with 8 grand slams - same number as Lendl and Agassi

If he can find a way to stop grinding out points from the baseline, then he may reach double digits in grand slams, but the way I currently see it, his game is too physical (if he keeps this up, he'll only be playing another 2 years or so at the top before his ranking drops when his body starts taking a toll with injuries creeping in).

I'm a big fan of Nole, one thing I'd like to see him improve is his net game so he can shorten the points and his body steers clear from injury. Whether or not that will happen remains to be seen...

Certinfy
01-13-2012, 09:21 PM
Don't see it.

If Novak could take 3 or 4 this year though then it'll get interesting.

Ash86
01-13-2012, 09:27 PM
Anything's possible but unlikely. For one I think reports of Rafa's demise are much exaggerated. He still has a few French Opens & Wimbledons in him - the next 2 years is still a good window for him & he'll have his chances. If Rafa gets to 12/13/14 in the next 2 years, Novak's task gets even harder. Novak will be 25 this year - potentially 2-3 good years left at a very high level given how much he grinds out points - will he win 2-3 slams a year every year? Again could happen but unlikely. Murray will challenge, hopefully Del Po will & Raonic, Tomic etc. may rise. His best shot at racking them up is this year....

Sunset of Age
01-13-2012, 09:40 PM
No. F*cking. Way.

GSMnadal
01-13-2012, 09:43 PM
if this happens I'll never watch tennis again

http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/jpg/misc-true-story.jpg

Roamed
01-13-2012, 10:04 PM
It's not happening.

Jamoz
01-13-2012, 10:24 PM
No ;)

Saberq
01-13-2012, 10:29 PM
If he flukes and wins all 4 this year then who knows

MuzzahLovah
01-13-2012, 10:30 PM
Depends on Murray :D

Ionut
01-13-2012, 10:30 PM
If he flukes and wins all 4 this year then who knows

impossible


No:)

Saberq
01-13-2012, 10:39 PM
impossible


No:)

of course its possible only probably it wont happen .....Nadal trails 6 to Fed same shit ....

!VamosRafa!
01-13-2012, 10:48 PM
Well after 2012 he will have 7 or 8 Slams:shrug:

I'm sure Rafa wont ever win a Slam again so Novak could equal Rafa in 2013.

Punky
01-13-2012, 10:51 PM
Well after 2012 he will have 7 or 8 Slams:shrug:

I'm sure Rafa wont ever win a Slam again so Novak could equal Rafa in 2013.

No way, he is not done yet.
he's just 25.5, he still have amm 2 good years b/4 his body will cave

Saberq
01-13-2012, 10:58 PM
better question is can Novak win 10 Slams?

ossie
01-13-2012, 11:07 PM
considering the fact it is going to be del potro who will dominate the coming years in tennis i don't think the djoker will surpass nadal in slam count. then again rafa wont be winning much either so there won't be really much of a difference.

Saberq
01-13-2012, 11:11 PM
considering the fact it is going to be del potro who will dominate the coming years in tennis i don't think the djoker will surpass nadal in slam count. then again rafa wont be winning much either so there won't be really much of a difference.

I didnt think about that

Jovard
01-13-2012, 11:16 PM
This will happen in 2013! :fiery:

Marc23
01-13-2012, 11:50 PM
Don't think so...

BroTree123
01-13-2012, 11:55 PM
Depends how much Nole will make an impact this year.

Sunset of Age
01-14-2012, 12:34 AM
considering the fact it is going to be del potro who will dominate the coming years in tennis i don't think the djoker will surpass nadal in slam count. then again rafa wont be winning much either so there won't be really much of a difference.

Please don't tell me that you're being serious here. :tape:

Time Violation
01-14-2012, 12:37 AM
Depends how much Nole will make an impact this year.

Yup, this. If Nole has another good year and Nadal struggles, he could further close the gap :)

Pirata.
01-14-2012, 12:52 AM
Please don't tell me that you're being serious here. :tape:

Verdasco is going to be the Nadal to Delpo's Federer :shrug:





:rolls:

HKz
01-14-2012, 01:00 AM
I think Djokovic has the ability to since he can bag at the very least 3 of them while Nadal really only has Roland Garros in the bag. If Novak can stay healthy and motivated (which is the main issue IMO) he can get around 10. Realistically? I think he will end up with 6 or 7.

Sophocles
01-14-2012, 01:06 AM
No. Nadal won't win more than 2 more but Djoker won't be winning slams after 2013 & he ain't winning 6 in a row.

Saberq
01-14-2012, 01:08 AM
No. Nadal won't win more than 2 more but Djoker won't be winning slams after 2013 & he ain't winning 6 in a row.

and you know that how?by hoping he will burn out? come on man......

HKz
01-14-2012, 01:48 AM
and you know that how?by hoping he will burn out? come on man......

Look at this fool. It is like he has some program showing him every new post on MTF that isn't saying Djokovic will win CYGS.

abraxas21
01-14-2012, 02:09 AM
better question is can Novak win 10 Slams?

if nadull did it, then pretty much any mug with a big dedication can

Saberq
01-14-2012, 02:13 AM
Look at this fool. It is like he has some program showing him every new post on MTF that isn't saying Djokovic will win CYGS.

Dude thank you lucky stars this is a forum ........

Egreen
01-14-2012, 02:16 AM
Nope. Nadal will probably win 11 or 12, I'm leaning towards 11 because his body is looking more and more done and dusted. Djokovic like said earlier, will not be winning slams in 2014 or beyond(by 27 his body will be done and dusted), so he has 2012 and 2013 to win the rest of his slams and there is no way he will win the next 8 slams to reach 12 slams which is what he will probably need to eclipse Nadal. It's Djokovic's fault that he basically slacked and wasted 2 years in 2009 and 2010 to win slams. I think the most Djokovic will win is 8 slams so he won't even reach double digits.

tektonac
01-14-2012, 02:21 AM
if this happens I'll never watch tennis again


you can start immediately with your resolution :o

Mountaindewslave
01-14-2012, 03:35 AM
extremely unrealistic due to the fact that in the worst case scenario Nadal can likely fall back on Roland Garros and win a few more of them..... at minimum Nadal ends at 11-12 slams and at best ends at a few more than that....

Djokovic I think is capable of getting close, but he wasted some of the years when tennis players are at their best.... 2009/2010. in reality (despite recent times where the top 10 has been rather old), players do not get better as they age in the sport. Federer is a unique example and has made people too optimistic for the future of our current stars.

Djokovic plays too agressively, just last year his body was seemingly falling apart towards the end. he may have totally recuperated since then BUT it only gets worse each year. I see Djokovic ending at like 7 or 8 slams. this Australian Open will really make it easier to tell if he will win many more..

it is extremely unlikely DJokovic can catch Nadal though, too much of an uphill battle. waited until he was 24 to get totally healthy. if he were a year or two younger then yes definitely, but no definitely given the current circumstances...

i think there is still a lot of question marks if he can reach an Agassi-ish number of grand slams

RafaNadal2012!!!
01-14-2012, 03:46 AM
No. Just no. He wasted majority of his prime. Almost 25 himself now, he is not Federer and will not dominate injury free taking 3 slams a year for years.

jcempire
01-14-2012, 04:09 AM
No way.

Same Question, Do you believe Nadal would pass Federer? No way

Mystique
01-14-2012, 04:23 AM
nope. I dont think Novak gets to 10 even. 7-8 is my guess (assuming he will not have another year in 2011 a la last season). And anyway Rafa is not done winning slams.

@Sweet Cleopatra
01-14-2012, 06:18 AM
Rafa is winning RG this year. He can suck all like he wants but he is going to win RG.

finishingmove
01-14-2012, 07:02 AM
I think he can, yes.

rinnegan
01-14-2012, 07:13 AM
Of course he can.

ossie
01-14-2012, 08:36 AM
Please don't tell me that you're being serious here. :tape:if a poor mans del potro aka djoker can dominate the way he did in 2011 i dont see how the GOAT himself should achieve anything less than the golden slam this year.

Orka_n
01-14-2012, 10:07 AM
Why no, I don't.

if a poor mans del potro aka djoker can dominate the way he did in 2011 i dont see how the GOAT himself should achieve anything less than the golden slam this year.The sad thing is, you're really believing what you're writing.

Federer in 2
01-14-2012, 10:21 AM
Absolutly not...he won't get past the 5.
Actually, we will see a huge decrease in his level this year. He is not ready for the responsibility of coming into a tournament as a player who must win, and not as one who just one of the top players.
He collapsed under such pressure in World Tour Finals, and the same thing will happen again.

rinnegan
01-14-2012, 10:22 AM
considering the fact it is going to be del potro who will dominate the coming years in tennis i don't think the djoker will surpass nadal in slam count. then again rafa wont be winning much either so there won't be really much of a difference.

Yeah. Del Potro can dominate as long as he avoids Baghdatis.

rinnegan
01-14-2012, 10:25 AM
He is not ready for the responsibility of coming into a tournament as a player who must win, and not as one who just one of the top players.

Djokovic totally did not come into last year's Wimbledon and US Open as a player who must win those tournaments to prove himself to the world.:rolleyes:

xdrewitdajx
01-14-2012, 10:25 AM
depends on the younger generation more than anything else, I'd say

Saberq
01-14-2012, 10:46 AM
Absolutly not...he won't get past the 5.
Actually, we will see a huge decrease in his level this year. He is not ready for the responsibility of coming into a tournament as a player who must win, and not as one who just one of the top players.
He collapsed under such pressure in World Tour Finals, and the same thing will happen again.

look guys another loser tard

Federer in 2
01-14-2012, 10:48 AM
Djokovic totally did not come into last year's Wimbledon and US Open as a player who must win those tournaments to prove himself to the world.:rolleyes:

That's right - he didnt. At wimbledon he was still ranked #2, and both those tournaments still were a part of his amazing run. He was still in a position where he can surprise everybody by making his year even more perfect. But this is not the case anymore - Now Novak is considered by many to be the one favorite to win any tournament, hence he has to fulfill very high expectations, which is something he never had to do before.

GSMnadal
01-14-2012, 10:57 AM
That's right - he didnt. At wimbledon he was still ranked #2, and both those tournaments still were a part of his amazing run. He was still in a position where he can surprise everybody by making his year even more perfect. But this is not the case anymore - Now Novak is considered by many to be the one favorite to win any tournament, hence he has to fulfill very high expectations, which is something he never had to do before.

I give you Wimbledon, Nadal and Federer were probably still favoured there having just won Roland Garros / beaten Djokovic. And it was grass obviously, Nadal and Fed are Wimbledon legends, Djokovic never even made it to a final.

But at the US Open, Djokovic was a massive favourite, and he won it. And he wasn't even playing at his best.

finishingmove
01-14-2012, 11:02 AM
Winning 3-4 slams per year, it will take him only 2 years to do it.

Saberq
01-14-2012, 11:04 AM
Winning 3-4 slams per year, it will take him only 2 years to do it.

he's not gonna do that ....at best he can win 2 next year ...you dont win 3 Slams per year every year unless you're Roger Federer

EliSter
01-14-2012, 11:07 AM
he's not gonna do that ....at best he can win 2 next year ...you dont win 3 Slams per year every year unless you're Roger Federer

Who says that? The laws of RF? :rolleyes:

Maccie
01-14-2012, 11:08 AM
I don't think so, but I do think he's going to 'rule' the ATPtour the next couple of years. Federer can't motivate himself like he used to, Nadal's body is beginning to protest and Murray...well Murray is Murray.

So I sure think he's going to get close but Nadal will probably win a few extra too.

fmolinari2005
01-14-2012, 11:14 AM
That's right - he didnt. At wimbledon he was still ranked #2, and both those tournaments still were a part of his amazing run. He was still in a position where he can surprise everybody by making his year even more perfect. But this is not the case anymore - Now Novak is considered by many to be the one favorite to win any tournament, hence he has to fulfill very high expectations, which is something he never had to do before.

I do think he will win more than 5 GS titles. Around 7 is my bet. However, you do make a fair point there. I don't recall Novak defending any big title. I might be wrong, because I don't follow his career that closely. But I don't recall him defending his 08 AO and WTF titles for instance. Even at the Master Series level I am not sure if he defended any of his titles... I would ask Nole fans for that stat though.

This AO wil be crucial for him. It is not necessary for him to win it, but he will need at least to go deep into the tournament. Federer after his 2004 season didn't win his two first GS of the year, but at least made semi-finals and had a brilliant run at the US hard court season winning both titles at Miami and Indian Wells.

Since I am not neither a fan or a hater of Nole I consider myself neutral on those issues. I do like the guy's game though. Last year was amazing for him, but Nole had issues with consistency in the past. This year will put his resolve to the test. Sure he was the fav to win the USO, but it is a totally different ball game becoming the undisputed number one after a great season.

He is the new king of tennis. However, sooner or later his mother's infamous words will come to haunt his own son ... lets see for how long this king will be alive.

GSMnadal
01-14-2012, 11:21 AM
I do think he will win more than 5 GS titles. Around 7 is my bet. However, you do make a fair point there. I don't recall Novak defending any big title. I might be wrong, because I don't follow his career that closely. But I don't recall him defending his 08 AO and WTF titles for instance. Even at the Master Series level I am not sure if he defended any of his titles... I would ask Nole fans for that stat though.

This AO wil be crucial for him. It is not necessary for him to win it, but he will need at least to go deep into the tournament. Federer after his 2004 season didn't win his two first GS of the year, but at least made semi-finals and had a brilliant run at the US hard court season winning both titles at Miami and Indian Wells.

Since I am not neither a fan or a hater of Nole I consider myself neutral on those issues. I do like the guy's game though. Last year was amazing for him, but Nole had issues with consistency in the past. This year will put his resolve to the test. Sure he was the fav to win the USO, but it is a totally different ball game becoming the undisputed number one after a great season.

He is the new king of tennis. However, sooner or later his mother's infamous words will come to haunt his own son ... lets see for how long this king will be alive.

He has defended something twice...

Dubai in 2010 and 2011. That's it.

xdrewitdajx
01-14-2012, 11:39 AM
and Beijing.

but before last season he had never done a lot of things, so that doesn't mean much.

Federer in 2
01-14-2012, 11:43 AM
I give you Wimbledon, Nadal and Federer were probably still favoured there having just won Roland Garros / beaten Djokovic. And it was grass obviously, Nadal and Fed are Wimbledon legends, Djokovic never even made it to a final.

But at the US Open, Djokovic was a massive favourite, and he won it. And he wasn't even playing at his best.

Of course that's a good point, but in my opinion the attitude is different in the start of the season.
Although he held the #1 position at the USO, in addition to the responsibility there was also a feeling of 'bonus' to the greatness he had already achieved this year (and by greatness I don't only mean the Aussie Open and Wimby, but also his 5 months long winning streak and his impressive record at Masters 1000.
Starting from scratch in 2012 can affect him, and not in the positive way. It's a lot of pressure to know that even the slightest slip can cause a huge disappointment and raise questions about his ability to maintain the top spot.

Anyway, it's just my opinion. Time will tell :)

GSMnadal
01-14-2012, 11:52 AM
and Beijing.

but before last season he had never done a lot of things, so that doesn't mean much.

Oh yes, thanks.

And agreed, I don't get why everyone always emphasizes on defending a tournament, you can win 2 slams a year for 10 years straight and never have defended any of them, but that doesn't say much about your greatness if you keep on winning other stuff.

And even besides that, he's bound to defend at least a couple tournaments from last year.

duong
01-14-2012, 11:56 AM
Possible yes.

And I may sound fool but it's not impossible in my eyes that he passes Federer

he's still young, and younger generations are poor

Saberq
01-14-2012, 12:06 PM
Of course that's a good point, but in my opinion the attitude is different in the start of the season.
Although he held the #1 position at the USO, in addition to the responsibility there was also a feeling of 'bonus' to the greatness he had already achieved this year (and by greatness I don't only mean the Aussie Open and Wimby, but also his 5 months long winning streak and his impressive record at Masters 1000.
Starting from scratch in 2012 can affect him, and not in the positive way. It's a lot of pressure to know that even the slightest slip can cause a huge disappointment and raise questions about his ability to maintain the top spot.

Anyway, it's just my opinion. Time will tell :)

could you be more desperate?

fmolinari2005
01-14-2012, 12:22 PM
He has defended something twice...

Dubai in 2010 and 2011. That's it.

Thanks. This sums up pretty much why, at this moment, it is unlikely that Novak will surpass Nadal's GS record.

Last year's WTF was a worrying sign for Novak. Djoko fans might say that he ended up burned out and still recovering from that shoulder injury. But for a guy that had such an amazing season, beating all the top ten players left and right, not even qualifying for the semi-finals is not a good sign.

Another issue is how Novak deals with success. And here I see the main differences between Federer, Novak and Nadal:

- Nadal: you can sense the guy doesn't like being at the spotlight. Maybe one of the reasons he doesn't cope as well as Federer as being number one. You have the feeling that Nadal fights to be number one because of his innate competitive drive. His biography gave us some interesting insights on this issue- it seems to me that the very thing that made him number one is what makes him uncomfortable in that position: the feeling of having to dig extra-deep to become a better player.

- Federer: the guy was born to be a number one player. He has the right balance of liking being at the spotlight and not getting that carried away with it. You could see at times he would get a kick out of being a celebrity (meeting famous people, going to events and etc), but at the same time, he never got his eye out of the fact that what matters most to him is being the best tennis player around. So, even if he would allow himself of living it big sometimes, it never took him off track. In the end tennis always came first to him (which, right now, I am not so sure).

- Novak: oh well. His fans might say otherwise, but the guy is an attention seeking fellow. Sometimes I feel he likes being a celebrity a bit too much. That was probably what happened to him after winning his 08 AO title. I suppose he found the right balance last year: enjoyed his celebrity status while not losing sight of what really matters for him as a tennis player. If you put in the balance that he is having to go through a strict diet and that at home he is treated like a ubber-celebrity, his determination wil be really put to the test right now. As a tennis player he will face one of his toughest challenges right now.

Dr.Slice
01-14-2012, 12:50 PM
If his body holds up, then I can see Novak getting to 9-10 slams.

Matt01
01-14-2012, 01:17 PM
No. Djokovic and Nadal will both pass Federer, though. :smoke:


We all know Rafa has 10 and novak 4 and that novak is a year younger BUT novak look good on every surface so do you think he has a chance of stoping nadal at 10 and win another 7 Slams?


That may be true but last time I checked it was Rafa who had already won the Career Grand Slam and not Novak...

Federer in 2
01-14-2012, 01:24 PM
No. Djokovic and Nadal will both pass Federer, though. :smoke:

Pass Federer? LOL... Maybe if you combine the number of Grand Slams they win together by the end of their careers, it could possibly be more than Roger's.

finishingmove
01-14-2012, 01:27 PM
Remember that Novak already changed his style significantly.

Nobody says he'll be playing this same type of grinding game in a few years. Who knows how the surfaces will play then. If the motivation remains there, I'm sure he'll adapt.

The limit to his success would be :

1. How long he intends to stay on the circuit. I've heard he plans to retire after 2014 but who knows what will happen yet.
2. How the younger generations develop.

Egreen
01-14-2012, 01:29 PM
Pass Federer? LOL... Maybe if you combine the number of Grand Slams they win together by the end of their careers, it could possibly be more than Roger's.

11 + 8 = 19

Yep, 19 is more than what Federer will retire with.

:lol:

Matt01
01-14-2012, 01:30 PM
he's not gonna do that ....at best he can win 2 next year ...you dont win 3 Slams per year every year unless you're Roger Federer


Oh please. It is unlikey to win another 3 Slams next year again but for the Djoker it's not impossible.

finishingmove
01-14-2012, 01:31 PM
To surpass Federer's amount of slams would be more difficult, but not entirely impossible either.

Matt01
01-14-2012, 01:32 PM
Pass Federer? LOL... Maybe if you combine the number of Grand Slams they win together by the end of their careers, it could possibly be more than Roger's.


Combined, they already have almost as many as Federer and according to his fans, he's an old man who can barely walk anymore :shrug:

Orka_n
01-14-2012, 01:32 PM
No. Djokovic and Nadal will both pass Federer, though. :smoke:To do that, the pair only needs to win every single slam for the next 5 years (7 for Nadal and 13 for Nole). Easy as cake. :shrug:

11 + 8 = 19

Yep, 19 is more than what Federer will retire with.

:lol:11 and 8? :scratch:

solowyn
01-14-2012, 01:37 PM
To do that, the pair only needs to win every single slam for the next 5 years (7 for Nadal and 13 for Nole). Easy as cake. :shrug:
:lol: Wow.

Also, why can't I rep you again yet.. :ras:

Matt01
01-14-2012, 01:42 PM
To do that, the pair only needs to win every single slam for the next 5 years (7 for Nadal and 13 for Nole). Easy as cake. :shrug:


Yeah, sounds quite easy to me. :D

Egreen
01-14-2012, 01:45 PM
To do that, the pair only needs to win every single slam for the next 5 years (7 for Nadal and 13 for Nole). Easy as cake. :shrug:

11 and 8? :scratch:

What Nadal and Djokovic might end up with.

The_Djoker
01-14-2012, 01:55 PM
Yes, Nadal isn't winning anymore slams maybe 1 more FO in the next 3 years before he retires.

Djokovic will dominate for the next 4 years and come close to beating Rogers record though I doubt it.

Federer in 2
01-14-2012, 02:03 PM
Combined, they already have almost as many as Federer and according to his fans, he's an old man who can barely walk anymore :shrug:

Can barely walk? Are you kidding me? Federer is showing the best tennis of his career in the last couple of months, and the more important thing is - When a player gets older he doesn't lose any of his mental strength, but becomes physically weaker. This will give Federer an even bigger advantage. Rafa and Novak (especially Rafa), are almost entirely dependent on those physical skills that allow them outlast their opponents. While Rafa and Novak will be going downhill from the age of 27-28, Federer will still be able to win majors at 33 - 34. I know that some of you Djokovic fans might think that sounds like a part of some dream, but I wouldn't be surprised if roger will go on to win more than 21 slams.

finishingmove
01-14-2012, 02:07 PM
:haha:

nole_no1
01-14-2012, 02:12 PM
If he stays healthy yes he can

And that's because i can't see anyone to stop him... only Murray or Delpo if they finally start to play some tennis but I hardly believe it

Orka_n
01-14-2012, 03:43 PM
If he stays healthy yes he can

And that's because i can't see anyone to stop him... only Murray or Delpo if they finally start to play some tennis but I hardly believe itWhat kind of logic is this? First off, someone else might step up in the next couple of years. Secondly, you're just assuming Nole will keep his 2011 form forever.

It all sounds like a long shot to me.

sportstennis
01-14-2012, 03:53 PM
if this happens I'll never watch tennis again

http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/jpg/misc-true-story.jpg


nadal never exceed Sampras's record.

:ras:

nole_no1
01-14-2012, 03:56 PM
What kind of logic is this? First off, someone else might step up in the next couple of years. Secondly, you're just assuming Nole will keep his 2011 form forever.

It all sounds like a long shot to me.

Well this is what i said: I don't see anyone to step up in the future
And no i'm not assuming Nole to keep his 2011 form forever but just for 2-3 years.If the competition is so weak, he doesn't even need to keep this form.Just play at his normal and it will be enough

Sunset of Age
01-14-2012, 04:04 PM
Well this is what i said: I don't see anyone to step up in the future

I don't think there were a lot of people who 'saw Djokovic step it up in 2011' back in 2010 either. Did you?
Things can change fast in tennis.

tennizen
01-14-2012, 04:07 PM
Rafa will be known in history as the transitional GOAT between two real GOATs.

Saberq
01-14-2012, 04:16 PM
I don't think there were a lot of people who 'saw Djokovic step it up in 2011' back in 2010 either. Did you?
Things can change fast in tennis.

I think it's time for you to learn that 2011 was not his form it was his game ....his breathing is normal now his stamina is superior to anyone his mental state is almost perfect and his game is without any major flaw.....

Matt01
01-14-2012, 04:17 PM
Can barely walk? Are you kidding me? Federer is showing the best tennis of his career in the last couple of months, and the more important thing is - When a player gets older he doesn't lose any of his mental strength, but becomes physically weaker. This will give Federer an even bigger advantage. Rafa and Novak (especially Rafa), are almost entirely dependent on those physical skills that allow them outlast their opponents. While Rafa and Novak will be going downhill from the age of 27-28, Federer will still be able to win majors at 33 - 34. I know that some of you Djokovic fans might think that sounds like a part of some dream, but I wouldn't be surprised if roger will go on to win more than 21 slams.


Oh my :facepalm:

Arakasi
01-14-2012, 04:23 PM
After Federer won 3 slams in 2009/2010: "He's going to win 20 slams easily. He's unstoppable!"

After Nadal won 3 slams in 2010: "He's definitely going to break Federer's 16 slam record. He'll probably get 17 or 18!"

After Djokovic won 3 slams in 2011: "There is no one who can compete with him. He'll get to 12 slams easily."

People are stupid.

iamhe
01-14-2012, 04:43 PM
Of course he can. But will he? Time will tell.

GSMnadal
01-14-2012, 04:49 PM
nadal never exceed Sampras's record.

:ras:

ah, I seeeee, relevance? :scratch:

yet another hater dedicating everything he says to Nadal. Even your sig is entirely about him :worship:

You're like a poor man's samonuske

Petrovic
01-14-2012, 05:11 PM
Depends on other players and Novak of course.
Federer might concetrate only on slams as he is geting older and his body needs more time to heal.
Nadal is having trouble with injuries often, small but significant.
Murray might take one slam this year.
But overall Joker is favorite to take 2 slams this year at least.
Question is stupid as we don't have magic crystal ball to tell us , so we can only imagine things how it will turn out...

Punky
01-14-2012, 05:49 PM
After Federer won 3 slams in 2009/2010: "He's going to win 20 slams easily. He's unstoppable!"

After Nadal won 3 slams in 2010: "He's definitely going to break Federer's 16 slam record. He'll probably get 17 or 18!"

After Djokovic won 3 slams in 2011: "There is no one who can compete with him. He'll get to 12 slams easily."

People are stupid.

SO TRUE.
ever year ppl Praise another player who is on a role

Mountaindewslave
01-14-2012, 06:37 PM
I give you Wimbledon, Nadal and Federer were probably still favoured there having just won Roland Garros / beaten Djokovic. And it was grass obviously, Nadal and Fed are Wimbledon legends, Djokovic never even made it to a final.

But at the US Open, Djokovic was a massive favourite, and he won it. And he wasn't even playing at his best.

please GSMnadal, Djokovic played at an outstanding level and besides at certain points not serving particularly fast, played as well as he could. if you can't see his level was very very good at the US OPEN 2011 then you are blinddd.

this guy makes a great point, the WTF did indicate that Djokovic might/might not be able to handle the pressure of being such a heavy favorite in tournaments. the US OPEN he did do a good job with the pressure but a different year is a fresh start and because of that there's much more pressure than backing up wins in a particular year, ala winning Wimbledon and then backign it up with the US OPEN... it's an entire new year where he's expected or being betted on to maintain a huge amount of points. defending tons of titles, #1 rank, etc etc. lot more pressure.

a point can be made that although Djokovic is a great player, it is very hard to even hope that he can reach Nadal's grand slam tally as we have no idea he will react when such A HUGE favorite to win tournaments and when responsible to defend so many points.

time will tell and the next few months will give us big signs of if Novak has a possibility to pass Nadal some day. the key ingredients are: one, how Djokovic handles pressure long-term. and two, how his body holds up

Mountaindewslave
01-14-2012, 06:39 PM
Rafa will be known in history as the transitional GOAT between two real GOATs.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Federer in 2
01-14-2012, 06:45 PM
please GSMnadal, Djokovic played at an outstanding level and besides at certain points not serving particularly fast, played as well as he could. if you can't see his level was very very good at the US OPEN 2011 then you are blinddd.

this guy makes a great point, the WTF did indicate that Djokovic might/might not be able to handle the pressure of being such a heavy favorite in tournaments. the US OPEN he did do a good job with the pressure but a different year is a fresh start and because of that there's much more pressure than backing up wins in a particular year, ala winning Wimbledon and then backign it up with the US OPEN... it's an entire new year where he's expected or being betted on to maintain a huge amount of points. defending tons of titles, #1 rank, etc etc. lot more pressure.

a point can be made that although Djokovic is a great player, it is very hard to even hope that he can reach Nadal's grand slam tally as we have no idea he will react when such A HUGE favorite to win tournaments and when responsible to defend so many points.

time will tell and the next few months will give us big signs of if Novak has a possibility to pass Nadal some day. the key ingredients are: one, how Djokovic handles pressure long-term. and two, how his body holds up

Thank you^. Nice to see that some people do agree.
By the way, whether Novak goes downhill from now or not, I strongly believe that this Aussie Open is the Key moment.

Mountaindewslave
01-14-2012, 06:54 PM
Thank you^. Nice to see that some people do agree.
By the way, whether Novak goes downhill from now or not, I strongly believe that this Aussie Open is the Key moment.

oh I agree 100%. If he preforms well and wins this Australian Open it will show signs that he is here to stay and keep winning a lot of Grand Slams. if he fumbles here (and furthermore if he stumbles the rest of the season) then you'll have to wonder if he can handle being on top permanently. definitely a big tournament to set the stage for the rest of the year and years to come :cool:

Federer in 2
01-14-2012, 07:01 PM
oh I agree 100%. If he preforms well and wins this Australian Open it will show signs that he is here to stay and keep winning a lot of Grand Slams. if he fumbles here (and furthermore if he stumbles the rest of the season) then you'll have to wonder if he can handle being on top permanently. definitely a big tournament to set the stage for the rest of the year and years to come :cool:

That's true, although I find it hard to believe that he will in fact win this title.
It's just those occasional moments last year, when he lost or felt like he was gonna lose, and started to make those little face impressions to show he "doesn't really care"...just doesn't seem that he is enough of a grown up. Might sink under all the attention.

nole_no1
01-14-2012, 07:52 PM
I don't think there were a lot of people who 'saw Djokovic step it up in 2011' back in 2010 either. Did you?
Things can change fast in tennis.

What Djokovic did in 2011 was more than just "stepping up"
He was number 3 in the world, GS winner so I guess everybody expected him to step up.What he did and what nobody expected him to do was dominating the tour in that manner

ossie
01-14-2012, 08:28 PM
Why no, I don't.

The sad thing is, you're really believing what you're writing.i have good reason to believe what i am saying.

fmolinari2005
01-14-2012, 08:58 PM
i have good reason to believe what i am saying.

Dellusion (Psychiatry): a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact.

Nole Rules
01-14-2012, 09:27 PM
Why not? And why ppl are so sure that he will burn out after 2013? He will be 27 y.o. by then. He won't be at his peak when he truns 27/28 but it still possible for him to win a slam at that age if the new generations doesn't step up. No one knows what will happen.

Nole Rules
01-14-2012, 09:31 PM
I don't think he will but i think he can do it if he wins 3 slams this year.

Mountaindewslave
01-14-2012, 09:56 PM
Why not? And why ppl are so sure that he will burn out after 2013? He will be 27 y.o. by then. He won't be at his peak when he truns 27/28 but it still possible for him to win a slam at that age if the new generations doesn't step up. No one knows what will happen.

his playing style is quite wearing, just like Nadal. ironically now that he is healthy and can move around brilliantly, Novak will degrade his body even faster. no one can say for sure, but grinding on the court so much inevitably will make you lose your physical prowess much faster than relying on a power game or having naturally smooth movement (Federer)

Greatness
01-14-2012, 10:36 PM
It all depends on how Novak does this year.
Winning another 3 slams this year will give him a total of 7 slams and from then he can easily win 2 slams a year until he's 27.

Novak will mature even more and unlike most players on tour, Novak can play purely offensive tennis and then switch to a defensive style at any moment.
Therefore people who keep mentioning how his body will wear down because of his style of play will be in for a surprise when Novak polishes his game even more
and starts hitting more winners while keeping points short.

tektonac
01-14-2012, 10:50 PM
It all depends on how Novak does this year.
Winning another 3 slams this year will give him a total of 7 slams and from then he can easily win 2 slams a year until he's 27.

Novak will mature even more and unlike most players on tour, Novak can play purely offensive tennis and then switch to a defensive style at any moment.
Therefore people who keep mentioning how his body will wear down because of his style of play will be in for a surprise when Novak polishes his game even more
and starts hitting more winners while keeping points short.

nice post. i read an article where vajda mentions novak was working on shortening the points and going for a more aggressive game style.

reery
03-14-2012, 03:54 PM
I was going to start a thread about this but I see they have a similar topic here already.


I say they both finish with 11 slams.

GOAT in progress
03-14-2012, 05:01 PM
Nole 20 slams. Period. What do you not understand?????????

finishingmove
03-14-2012, 05:23 PM
nole will win 18 slams :worship:

Alex999
03-14-2012, 05:45 PM
oh another silly prediction thread. lol. who knows?

Start da Game
03-14-2012, 05:53 PM
nadal another 6 to 8 slams.....djokovic's road ends at 8.....

TigerTim
03-14-2012, 05:57 PM
Nadal 15
Nole 10

Alex999
03-14-2012, 06:12 PM
nadal another 6 to 8 slams.....djokovic's road ends at 8.....
ok bud, lol. how the hell is Nadal going to win another 6 to 8 slams :confused:? now you are just being silly :). sorry to call you on this but it's not going to happen. it's not realistic.

cheers bro

Looner
03-14-2012, 06:14 PM
ITT, Nadaltards and Noletards falling over each other to make stupid predictions (bar some exceptions). It's obviously Nadull who'll win more as he had a head start. Novak might come close but he was too far behind before v2.0 emerged.

Start da Game
03-14-2012, 06:18 PM
ok bud, lol. how the hell is Nadal going to win another 6 to 8 slams :confused:? now you are just being silly :). sorry to call you on this but it's not going to happen. it's not realistic.

cheers bro

nadal wins slams in bundles like in 2008-2009, 2010 taking little breaks in between.....he's due for another bundle.....

fsoica
03-14-2012, 06:36 PM
nadal another 6 to 8 slams.....djokovic's road ends at 8.....

here I must agree with the Tard. He (Rafa) will end up with smth like 16-17 or 17-18 vs. Fed in slam wins. Due to his H2H vs Rafa, the history books will note that Fed, the GOAT, had a big problem with Rafa and an important ammount of tards will shout about Rafa's superiority overall. The debate will continue in the 2100s until a Romanian player will end up with 34 slams, closing the GOAT discussion for the next 300 years...

rocketassist
03-14-2012, 06:50 PM
Nadal 11
Djokovic 9

Then burnout due to slow courts and physical style of play.

reery
03-14-2012, 07:03 PM
nadal another 6 to 8 slams....

6 more slams? Djokovic might win 6 more slams. He is the best player now. He has less mileage than Nadal.

Nadal has been winning slams for 7 years now. Borg won slams for 8 years. Do the math. Nadal only has like one more year to win slams. After that he will have way too much mileage for a grinder.

nadal wins slams in bundles like in 2008-2009, 2010 taking little breaks in between.....he's due for another bundle.....

He won in bundles when he was the best player in the world and the so called little breaks he took from winning slams(mid 2009 to early 2010) was because he got injured not because there was someone better than him on tour beating him on every surface like Djokovic has been doing. The best player in the world is Djokovic now. The only one who will win slams in bundles from now on is Djokovic.

Mechlan
03-14-2012, 07:22 PM
nadal wins slams in bundles like in 2008-2009, 2010 taking little breaks in between.....he's due for another bundle.....

Except he's never had someone who's completely owned him on all surfaces, both in slams and MS.