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ExpectedWinner
05-18-2008, 04:54 PM
This is my first tournament thread. Let's see what happens. :devil:

Mrs. B
05-18-2008, 05:00 PM
Roger might just surprise us this time around. :angel:

Bon chance!

yanchr
05-18-2008, 05:00 PM
:haha: :haha:

I bet quite a few will be fighting with you soon :lol:

Let the fight begin :armed: :armed:

Marek.
05-18-2008, 05:02 PM
I have a lot of movies that I haven't watched yet that should keep me occupied during those two weeks.

holagirl56
05-18-2008, 05:04 PM
good luck roger...

:yeah:

didadida
05-18-2008, 05:19 PM
c'mon rogeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

Mechlan
05-18-2008, 05:58 PM
Allez Roger. :cool:

trickcy
05-18-2008, 05:59 PM
All the best, Roger

rofe
05-18-2008, 06:03 PM
I felt pressure this time and folded just like Roger. :sad: ;)

3-1 is not bad in terms of thread success. :)

Hope your thread brings better luck for Roger (as in Roger can actually keep his mental state at a more even level).

My prediction is that based on what I saw during the clay season, Roger will defend his RG points. That is the best we can hope for at this point.

Noelman
05-18-2008, 06:09 PM
Best luck for Roger
Hope he can surprise us all:cool:

ExpectedWinner
05-18-2008, 06:32 PM
Roger will defend his RG points. That is the best we can hope for at this point.

I'll take it. Hopefully, he will not fall to Volandris/Hornas of this world early. Also, it wouldn't hurt if Jerk/Nalbandian landed on the other side, but I'm afraid I'm asking for too much.

NYCtennisfan
05-18-2008, 07:29 PM
Federer was in a winning position in 4 of the 5 sets they played on clay. He was in more rallies, returned serve better than ever, and dictated a lot with the FH. He'll be a big underdog again against Nadal if he gets there, but this is as good of a chance as ever.

NYCtennisfan
05-18-2008, 07:29 PM
I felt pressure this time and folded just like Roger. :sad: ;)

3-1 is not bad in terms of thread success. :)

Hope your thread brings better luck for Roger (as in Roger can actually keep his mental state at a more even level).

My prediction is that based on what I saw during the clay season, Roger will defend his RG points. That is the best we can hope for at this point.

:lol:

rofe
05-18-2008, 07:40 PM
Federer was in a winning position in 4 of the 5 sets they played on clay. He was in more rallies, returned serve better than ever, and dictated a lot with the FH. He'll be a big underdog again against Nadal if he gets there, but this is as good of a chance as ever.

Agreed, but for that chance to come to fruition, he needs to forget how he let his advantage go in those 4 sets and he needs to get amnesia about that for 3-5 sets at RG if they meet again. A pretty big hurdle don't you think?

anon57
05-18-2008, 07:53 PM
Agreed, but for that chance to come to fruition, he needs to forget how he let his advantage go in those 4 sets and he needs to get amnesia about that for 3-5 sets at RG if they meet again. A pretty big hurdle don't you think?
So in addition to a rain dance to make sure the clay in Paris is damp and the bounce doesn't bother Roger as much now he'll also be needing an hypnotist to get him to forget chances he's missed against Nadal in the past:p

Pedigree
05-18-2008, 08:46 PM
Go Roger.

Sunset of Age
05-18-2008, 09:37 PM
This is my first tournament thread. Let's see what happens. :devil:

:lol: - we should all have a try, the one that starts the thread leading up to a victory should be obliged to do all the next ones - until he loses again.

Hopefully he will be able to defend his points. I'll be happy to take that.

SUKTUEN
05-18-2008, 10:43 PM
Roger, don't give up!
You always have a change!!!

Come On Roger!!!!:D

RogiFan88
05-18-2008, 11:14 PM
As I said last year after RG, I am holding to my word and not watching RG... one can only take so much disappointment... I'm well and truly fed up w the clay season, sadly... I shall, however, cheer for Rogi, vs. all odds and himself...

Blondie1985
05-18-2008, 11:41 PM
Goooooooooo Rogerrrrrrrrrr


Please Win It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MrChopin
05-19-2008, 12:02 AM
Hope it works! I agree with NYC in that this is probably Fed's best chance to date given his current form.

(1) I think he's pretty much found his game (relative to the rest of the year), so I don't see him dropping out early (last "bad" match was RRH). If he can touch some things up with Higuras before RG and continues to implement a plan throughout RG, I think he has a decent-good chance to defend his points.

(2) Against Rafa, he looked lost at MC '07 and lost and spent during the last two sets of RG '07. I think he has a clear plan of what he needs to do, and further, has the willpower to employ it consistently (second set today). In the last two days, Djoke and Fed have shown what can be done, at least for patches. Fed's patches were more his own fault than Djoke's, which bodes well for him. If he brings his best consistently, he has a shot at the title.

yanchr
05-19-2008, 12:10 AM
He always has a shot. I never cease to believe it, even if he again and again proved to me that it was just wishful-thinking ( :smash: myself )

But I agree with all who said that he is playing better against Nadal this year than last year. I think the improvement is pretty remarkable. Probably doesn't mean he will steal a win, but let's see. If Nadal has to deal with an on-fire Nalbandian and then Djokovic and then a confident and fresh Roger back to back, well, we never know...

MrChopin
05-19-2008, 12:12 AM
So in addition to a rain dance to make sure the clay in Paris is damp and the bounce doesn't bother Roger as much now he'll also be needing an hypnotist to get him to forget chances he's missed against Nadal in the past:p

The rain may be out of his hands, but handy medical timeouts could possibly solve the "missed chances" problem. :devil:

NYCtennisfan
05-19-2008, 01:08 AM
Hope it works! I agree with NYC in that this is probably Fed's best chance to date given his current form.

(1) I think he's pretty much found his game (relative to the rest of the year), so I don't see him dropping out early (last "bad" match was RRH). If he can touch some things up with Higuras before RG and continues to implement a plan throughout RG, I think he has a decent-good chance to defend his points.

(2) Against Rafa, he looked lost at MC '07 and lost and spent during the last two sets of RG '07. I think he has a clear plan of what he needs to do, and further, has the willpower to employ it consistently (second set today). In the last two days, Djoke and Fed have shown what can be done, at least for patches. Fed's patches were more his own fault than Djoke's, which bodes well for him. If he brings his best consistently, he has a shot at the title.

Yes indeed. Go back some weeks ago after the RRH match when most thought that any decent player would beat up on Federer on clay to where he is right now and one can see how much Fed has improved over the course of the clay season. He lost to Nadal in MC but had a lot of chances and certainly didn't look out of it. He lost to Stepanek, but won more points and certainly had his chances. He lost to Nadal today, but he could've won in 2 straight sets. I like the aggressiveness of his game, and the effectiveness of his FH. He has a lot of his favorite FH combos working really well. The CC FH, DTL FH combo followed by a net rush, the off-FH to the deuce side, inside-out FH combo, the extreme angled CC FH is working. He has a lot of things working right now and he will be tough to beat at RG no matter the opponent.

The biggest thing he needs is to have either Nalbandian or Djoker on the other side of the draw or both. If it winds up that his draw is 1/4: Dave, 1/2: Djoker, he'll feel as if he has to win three finals to win RG. I mention Nalbandian specifically here because Fed knows what he can do and it will take a mental toll on him knowing how much he will have to do just to get to the finals.

SUKTUEN
05-19-2008, 05:00 AM
Roger still have his dream, he will be fight for it in RG!!

MrChopin
05-19-2008, 05:12 AM
Yes indeed. Go back some weeks ago after the RRH match when most thought that any decent player would beat up on Federer on clay to where he is right now and one can see how much Fed has improved over the course of the clay season. He lost to Nadal in MC but had a lot of chances and certainly didn't look out of it. He lost to Stepanek, but won more points and certainly had his chances. He lost to Nadal today, but he could've won in 2 straight sets. I like the aggressiveness of his game, and the effectiveness of his FH. He has a lot of his favorite FH combos working really well. The CC FH, DTL FH combo followed by a net rush, the off-FH to the deuce side, inside-out FH combo, the extreme angled CC FH is working. He has a lot of things working right now and he will be tough to beat at RG no matter the opponent.

I think the Monfils MC match was 55% Fed to win. :lol: Anyway, I totally agree here. That he improved so rapidly from the beginning of Estoril cannot be just health as he's clearly upped his strategy against Rafa, drawing closer than before. That's a very encouraging sign for the rest of the season, especially as he's doing it by playing aggressively.

The loss to Step is the only one I think of as a blemish and only a small one at that. He played two big servers in a row, and Stepanek's good performance (and Fed's chances) didn't help.

I went back and watched about about an hour of the '06 RG final earlier today and it's great way to see how much more effective his current play is. The BH is more consistent now and far more of a weapon; today he took more of them early and inside the court for cc winners, even using the dtl to set up some easy volleys. The FH was really crisp today, and was much more effective against Nadal '08 than '06 (it also seemed to be more of his traditional FH than what looked rather moonish at Rome against Canas or Stepanek). He looked to be moving more easily to the FH side (a few classic dtl FHs) than he had over the past few months. He also had a relatively easy time controlling the points from the ground, which struck me as a big difference from '06, where Nadal seemed to have him on a string quite often.

One thing that surprised me about Rafa's last two matches was the difficulty he had staying with Federer's FH. I thought Djokovic was a worse matchup for him in being as effective a defender on hc but with a stronger agressive game. From these two matches, it seemed as if, on clay, Federer's finishing power on the FH and generally more agressive tactics left Nadal with less to do than against Djokovic.

The biggest thing he needs is to have either Nalbandian or Djoker on the other side of the draw or both. If it winds up that his draw is 1/4: Dave, 1/2: Djoker, he'll feel as if he has to win three finals to win RG. I mention Nalbandian specifically here because Fed knows what he can do and it will take a mental toll on him knowing how much he will have to do just to get to the finals.

It would be the worst QF and Sf possible, but do you think that he'd still be mentally jarred so recently after MC? I missed part of the Nalbandian MC match but he seemed in control later on. The Djokovic match was still close despite Fed being ahead, and that's the matchup I'm most afraid of. He's playing fearlessly right now. Fed has the variety clay calls for, but I think Djoke will attack him as much as he can, which will keep Fed at a disadvantage and from playing his own game, though he played MC within his limits and let Djoke make more UEs. To see Djoke on the other side with Rafa will be a huge relief, especially as I don't think Nole has an answer for Nadal.

I'd also rather not see a big server early as Fed will want to find some rhythm. And certainly no withdraws unless weather calls for it.

t0x
05-19-2008, 07:43 AM
Roger's in with a good chance...

Realisitically, if Roger can't get it done against Rafa, I can only see Davydenko, Djokovic or Nalbandian (all in inspired form) doing it. But who knows? Rafa may get Nalby followed by Djoko followed by Fed. With the amount of tennis on Rafa's legs already, that could take it's toll.

There's always hope :) I think Roger is playing great tennis right now, it's going to take something special to beat him.

Daniel
05-19-2008, 07:58 AM
The ideal situation would be Roger wining the title

being realistic, I hope he makes at least the QF.

Vamos Roger :kiss: :hug: :bounce:

trickcy
05-19-2008, 08:36 AM
Roger has a chance to win RG. Yesterday, he was able to control many rallies, and was able to stay in most of the rallies, as opposed to 06 and 07. He's playing good tennis again, which I am relieved to see. It might not be enough to beat Rafa, but you never know. If somehow someone knocks some sense into his head, and it stays there, and Nadal is made to play some tough matches, say against Almagro, Davydenko, Nalbandian or Djokovic, ( is it possible for him to play all of them :scratch::p), well Fed has a chance.

Realistically though, I hope he makes the finals.

rofe
05-19-2008, 01:47 PM
As I said before, he may not win RG but I expect him to defend his Wimbly points. Who would have thought that just a few weeks back?

Roger's decision to keep playing through his mono recovery is now a "courageous" act. ;)

SUKTUEN
05-19-2008, 01:54 PM
Roger will take 2 days rest and than working again~~

GO Roger!

rofe
05-19-2008, 02:33 PM
I caught the RG 06 final on TTC and it is interesting to see how much at sea Roger was against Nadal's topspin to the FH and BH. His timing was seriously screwed but during MC and Hamburg this year, he was able to control that topspin a lot better.

Rogieva
05-19-2008, 03:51 PM
Roger play like the first 6 games of Hamburg Final please ! (and not like the rest!!!!!!)

taking the ball so early, the way he broke Nadal to love for 5-1 lead. :drool: lots of net play!, forehands dtl :drool:

C'mon ROGER !!!

Art&Soul
05-19-2008, 04:05 PM
ROGI will beat Piggy at RG 2008. Alezz ROGI, show no merci to him this time :rocker::banana::boxing: Fight and no more respect. That's the spirit, Alezzzzzzzzzz :bounce::bounce::bounce:

Blondie1985
05-19-2008, 04:46 PM
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6086/parissi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

MrChopin
05-19-2008, 05:42 PM
I caught the RG 06 final on TTC and it is interesting to see how much at sea Roger was against Nadal's topspin to the FH and BH. His timing was seriously screwed but during MC and Hamburg this year, he was able to control that topspin a lot better.

Another thing I found interesting in comparing RG '06 to his recent matches is how much more Federer took the game to Nadal in Hamburg this year. At RG '06, he was trying to win by outhitting Nadal from the back of the court. Nadal could hit to Fed's backhand a few consecutive times and he'd either shank it or be so far out of position that Nadal could hit an inside out FH to Fed's wide open FH court. Rafa moved him all over the place at will and kept Fed off balance. There wasn't much rhythm for Fed's FH as a result and it was rather ineffective, far more so than yesterday where he was dictating play and controlling the match with it.

I think this is his best chance thus far for an RG title. His clay game looks more efficient than the last two years and he has a plan that puts the match on his own terms. I think he did this for patches in '07, but he cannot blow his first set chances like he did in '07 or just yesterday at Hamburg.

ExpectedWinner
05-19-2008, 06:00 PM
I think this is his best chance thus far for an RG title. His clay game looks more efficient than the last two years and he has a plan that puts the match on his own terms.

Does he have a head to win? Honestly, except for Tipsy's match, a couple MC matches and the 2nd set yesterday, he's been rather mentally weak on important points this year.

soraya
05-19-2008, 09:01 PM
Does he have a head to win? Honestly, except for Tipsy's match, a couple MC matches and the 2nd set yesterday, he's been rather mentally weak on important points this year.

:) meanie!:mad:

NYCtennisfan
05-19-2008, 11:45 PM
I think the Monfils MC match was 55% Fed to win. :lol: Anyway, I totally agree here. That he improved so rapidly from the beginning of Estoril cannot be just health as he's clearly upped his strategy against Rafa, drawing closer than before. That's a very encouraging sign for the rest of the season, especially as he's doing it by playing aggressively.

The loss to Step is the only one I think of as a blemish and only a small one at that. He played two big servers in a row, and Stepanek's good performance (and Fed's chances) didn't help.

I went back and watched about about an hour of the '06 RG final earlier today and it's great way to see how much more effective his current play is. The BH is more consistent now and far more of a weapon; today he took more of them early and inside the court for cc winners, even using the dtl to set up some easy volleys. The FH was really crisp today, and was much more effective against Nadal '08 than '06 (it also seemed to be more of his traditional FH than what looked rather moonish at Rome against Canas or Stepanek). He looked to be moving more easily to the FH side (a few classic dtl FHs) than he had over the past few months. He also had a relatively easy time controlling the points from the ground, which struck me as a big difference from '06, where Nadal seemed to have him on a string quite often.

One thing that surprised me about Rafa's last two matches was the difficulty he had staying with Federer's FH. I thought Djokovic was a worse matchup for him in being as effective a defender on hc but with a stronger agressive game. From these two matches, it seemed as if, on clay, Federer's finishing power on the FH and generally more agressive tactics left Nadal with less to do than against Djokovic.



It would be the worst QF and Sf possible, but do you think that he'd still be mentally jarred so recently after MC? I missed part of the Nalbandian MC match but he seemed in control later on. The Djokovic match was still close despite Fed being ahead, and that's the matchup I'm most afraid of. He's playing fearlessly right now. Fed has the variety clay calls for, but I think Djoke will attack him as much as he can, which will keep Fed at a disadvantage and from playing his own game, though he played MC within his limits and let Djoke make more UEs. To see Djoke on the other side with Rafa will be a huge relief, especially as I don't think Nole has an answer for Nadal.

I'd also rather not see a big server early as Fed will want to find some rhythm. And certainly no withdraws unless weather calls for it.

He doesn't fear anyone and will up to the challenge, but I can see him being deflated in the earlier rounds knowing he would have to win 3 finals to win RG. I can see him losing focus in the earlier rounds, losing a few sets, etc.

didadida
05-19-2008, 11:56 PM
He doesn't fear anyone and will up to the challenge, but I can see him being deflated in the earlier rounds knowing he would have to win 3 finals to win RG. I can see him losing focus in the earlier rounds, losing a few sets, etc.

i dont mind him losing a few sets in early round to be in his best form in the final :D

Federerhingis
05-20-2008, 12:06 AM
i dont mind him losing a few sets in early round to be in his best form in the final :D

Yup as long as he wins the matches and makes the final to give himself a shot at the title that's what really matters. :p

SUKTUEN
05-20-2008, 12:45 AM
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6086/parissi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

oh I love this!!!!! thanks!:eek:

Federerhingis
05-20-2008, 12:53 AM
oh I love this!!!!! thanks!:eek:

Yes, La belle et merveilleuse Tour Eiffel.

SUKTUEN
05-20-2008, 01:09 AM
Yes, La belle et merveilleuse Tour Eiffel.

:eek::eek::eek::confused::confused::confused:

Greenday
05-20-2008, 07:28 AM
I believe in Karma...........Anyone remember how roger choked in the Montreal final against Djerkovic......and wat happenned in the USO final....a mirror image of events this time favouring roger........I hope the same repeats again.....Nadal had his luck in hamburg and MC finals and hope roger will have the same help in RG final....!....It's Karma....

nobama
05-20-2008, 10:33 AM
I just hope the draw is fair and it's not one of these that looks fair on the surface but in reality none of the tough players in Nadal's half are in his quarter and so he has a free run to the semis.

SUKTUEN
05-20-2008, 11:39 AM
when will the draw come out?

nobama
05-22-2008, 06:08 PM
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/22/sports/3tennisforum22.php?page=2

According to Rene Stauffer the mark on Roger's cheek is an inflamed gland.

Sunset of Age
05-22-2008, 06:24 PM
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/22/sports/3tennisforum22.php?page=2

According to Rene Stauffer the mark on Roger's cheek is an inflamed gland.

I've been suspecting something like that for a very long time. Obviously an infection, if it were merely a bee sting, that thing would've been gone quite some time ago.

didadida
05-22-2008, 07:15 PM
when will the draw come out?

on Friday

rofe
05-22-2008, 08:13 PM
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/22/sports/3tennisforum22.php?page=2

According to Rene Stauffer the mark on Roger's cheek is an inflamed gland.

Yeah, it does make sense that the body's purging of the virus resulted in that manifestation.

SUKTUEN
05-23-2008, 01:21 AM
oh hope this gland will gone soon~

GO Roger in RG!

didadida
05-23-2008, 10:02 AM
the draw is out

didadida
05-23-2008, 10:04 AM
Djokovic and Nalbandian in Nadal's draw

anon57
05-23-2008, 10:05 AM
Djokovic and Nalbandian in Nadal's draw
The internet draw on the link may bot be correct, the draw being discussed on ES France is different and thet's the correct draw.

didadida
05-23-2008, 10:09 AM
im watching it on ES France

anon57
05-23-2008, 10:11 AM
im watching it on ES France

so in the real draw, both Nalbandian and Djokovic are also in Nadal's half

didadida
05-23-2008, 10:39 AM
yes

didadida
05-23-2008, 10:40 AM
the draw

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/draws/ms/r1s1.html

Rogieva
05-23-2008, 11:04 AM
I like the draw. Nalbandian, Djokovic, Murray (:p) all in Nadal's draw. He is what, according to seed his path will look like to RG 2008 champ :angel:

1R: Querrey
2R: Mantanas
3R: Ancic or Seppi
4R: Monaco/Karlovic
QF: Gasquet (:shrug:), Gonzales or Wawrinka
SF: Davydenko/Ferrer
F: Nadal/Djokovic

didadida
05-23-2008, 11:38 AM
Djoko got an easy draw

LoveKim
05-23-2008, 11:52 AM
Djoko got an easy draw
And this is good. I want him to be fresh before the semis.:D Rafa needs a couple of five-setters.:angel:

I like the draw in general.

yanchr
05-23-2008, 12:07 PM
Djokovic in the bottom half, Nalbandian in 4/4 quarter :worship:

Djokovic will be in the semis easily...even if Nalbandian loses before QF Nadal won't have an easy day :worship:

Good draw for Roger, not too easy and irrelevant (Stepanek type), but with decent effort should be in semis at least...

Basically everything I want happened in the real draw. God :bowdown:

Now Roger up to you to take your chance...

refero*fervens
05-23-2008, 12:23 PM
I like the draw. Nalbandian, Djokovic, Murray (:p) all in Nadal's draw. He is what, according to seed his path will look like to RG 2008 champ :angel:

1R: Querrey
2R: Mantanas
3R: Ancic or Seppi
4R: Monaco/Karlovic
QF: Gasquet (:shrug:), Gonzales or Wawrinka
SF: Davydenko/Ferrer
F: Nadal/Djokovic

:lol: Cheers for neverending hope! Cmon Roger!

Sunset of Age
05-23-2008, 12:36 PM
Well well well. Can't say Roger has been unlucky with his draw! :)

He better not *fuck up* this excellent chance to at least make it to the final.
Hopp, Rogelio! :rocker2:

anon57
05-23-2008, 12:40 PM
It is a really good draw for Roger, he has a great chance of defending his points and getting to the final again.
Go Roger :rocker2:

Sunset of Age
05-23-2008, 01:16 PM
It is a really good draw for Roger, he has a great chance of defending his points and getting to the final again.
Go Roger :rocker2:

If he manages to do just THAT, I'll be a happy camper! :banana:
(anything more is beneficial... :tape:)

SUKTUEN
05-23-2008, 02:14 PM
Come On Roger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bounce::bounce:

Good Luck in all the way!!!:kiss:

RonE
05-23-2008, 03:17 PM
Also, it wouldn't hurt if Jerk/Nalbandian landed on the other side, but I'm afraid I'm asking for too much.

Ask and you shall receive ;) :cool:

trickcy
05-23-2008, 03:33 PM
:bounce: I like Fed's draw. If he plays well, he has a pretty good chance at defending the points. And Nadal has Nalby in his quarter and Djoko in his half:woohoo:
Allez Roger!

rofe
05-23-2008, 03:53 PM
So, Roger has a pretty good chance to defend his RG points. Given his physical and mental state in the early part of the season, what more can you ask for?

NYCtennisfan
05-23-2008, 05:20 PM
Good draw for Fed. If he does make it to the finals, he will lose a few sets and have at least one good battle. Nothing too easy, but no Nalbandian, no Djerk. Best that one could hope for.

Djerk has the same type of draw that Nadal had 2006 Wimby but of course will have to play Nadal in the SF's.

Federerhingis
05-23-2008, 05:51 PM
Good draw for Fed. If he does make it to the finals, he will lose a few sets and have at least one good battle. Nothing too easy, but no Nalbandian, no Djerk. Best that one could hope for.

Djerk has the same type of draw that Nadal had 2006 Wimby but of course will have to play Nadal in the SF's.

I know whenever those aren't in his draw, it's usually a good draw. :lol: :tape:

He should make the semi-finals at least, with some effort. :rocker2:

nobama
05-23-2008, 06:05 PM
John Wertheim from Sports Illustrated has Ferrer taking out Roger in the SF. Since Ferrer has never beaten Roger or seriously challenged him, even on clay, not sure why he thinks it will happen here. :shrug:

Sunset of Age
05-23-2008, 06:05 PM
Can people please explain me the relief of Nalbandian not being on Roger's side of the draw? :shrug:

Sunset of Age
05-23-2008, 06:07 PM
John Wertheim from Sports Illustrated has Ferrer taking out Roger in the SF. Since Ferrer has never beaten Roger or seriously challenged him, even on clay, not sure why he thinks it will happen here. :shrug:

Obviously, Ferrer had a FANTASTIC clay court season so far! ... eh oops.

:silly: :silly: :silly:

Yet another journo on my 'Certified Retards'-list. If they go ahead like this, very soon they'll even top the 'Managers' and 'PR-folks' categories.

ExpectedWinner
05-23-2008, 06:09 PM
On fire Ancic could be an early danger. W's opinions don't matter, it's Bud Collins who counts.:p Who did he pick to win?

Sunset of Age
05-23-2008, 06:09 PM
On fire Ancic could be an early danger. W's opinions don't matter, it's Bud Collins who counts.:p Who did he peak to win?

Andy Roddick, I suppose. :angel:

ExpectedWinner
05-23-2008, 06:11 PM
Can people please explain me the relief of Nalbandian not being on Roger's side of the draw? :shrug:

The match up, their past history; fit of fat, Nalby almost always tries his best against Fed.

nobama
05-23-2008, 06:14 PM
Obviously, Ferrer had a FANTASTIC clay court season so far! ... eh oops.

:silly: :silly: :silly:

Yet another journo on my 'Certified Retards'-list. If they go ahead like this, very soon they'll even top the 'Managers' and 'PR-folks' categories.

Here's another :lol: What is the likelyhood the #1 or #2 seed would face a top 10 player before the QF in a slam? :scratch: And I assume when they say "barring an upset" they mean Roger being upset? :scratch:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=143142&d=1211561446

nobama
05-23-2008, 06:15 PM
Obviously, Ferrer had a FANTASTIC clay court season so far! ... eh oops.

:silly: :silly: :silly:

Yet another journo on my 'Certified Retards'-list. If they go ahead like this, very soon they'll even top the 'Managers' and 'PR-folks' categories.I can understand wanting to predict an upset, but Ferrer in the SF? A more believable pick would've been an early round upset.

Sunset of Age
05-23-2008, 06:15 PM
The match up, their past history; fit of fat, Nalby almost always tries his best against Fed.

Might just be me, but IMHO the past doesn't count - and I haven't been impressed with him the past few months at all. :shrug:
And I expect ALL of the players to try and do their best against any an opponent...

Sunset of Age
05-23-2008, 06:17 PM
Here's another :lol: What is the likelyhood the #1 or #2 seed would face a top 10 player before the QF in a slam? :scratch: And I assume when they say "barring an upset" they mean Roger being upset? :scratch:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=143142&d=1211561446

Ah, yes. :haha:

In which :retard:-category should I place this one? The journo's or the PR-folks? :p

ExpectedWinner
05-23-2008, 06:21 PM
Might just be me, but IMHO the past doesn't count - and I haven't been impressed with him the past few months at all. :shrug:
And I expect ALL of the players to try and do their best against any an opponent...

It's just Fed doesn't match up well against Nalby's best. Nalby has the ability to read Fed's game, his returns and angles give Fed a lot of problems. Therefore, it's better to keep him far way from Fed (doesn't happen too often, btw).

nobama
05-23-2008, 06:22 PM
Latest gem from Djoker. Lets see him back it up at RG and Wimbledon. :armed:

“I think I’ve matured a lot … I believe much more in myself and that I can win against Rafael on clay or Roger on any surface.”

ExpectedWinner
05-23-2008, 06:38 PM
I think I’ve matured a lot … I believe much more in myself and that I can win against Rafael on clay or Roger on any surface.

Good news. Please do it in a 7 hour epic SF. :cool:

rofe
05-23-2008, 06:52 PM
Good news. Please do it in a 7 hour epic SF. :cool:

And this match should follow a 5 hour epic with Nalby. ;)

anon57
05-23-2008, 06:53 PM
Good news. Please do it in a 7 hour epic SF. :cool:
Preferably a 7 hour epic semi which due to rain had to be delayed to saturday:rocker2::devil:

Sunset of Age
05-23-2008, 06:54 PM
Latest gem from Djoker. Lets see him back it up at RG and Wimbledon. :armed:

"I think I've matured a lot"

Great that you think so, Djoke. Judging as to your behaviour, might we be allowed a rather different opinion? :rolleyes:

Good news. Please do it in a 7 hour epic SF. :cool:

:lol:

nobama
05-23-2008, 07:16 PM
So he doesn't think he can beat Nadal on any surface other than clay? Or he doesn't think Nadal can get far enough to meet him on any surface other than clay? I'm confused? :confused:

I think the pic below is appropriate.... :lol:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Rux/traning31.jpg

mangoes
05-23-2008, 07:41 PM
I'm happy about this draw.... I would still love to dump Davy into the bottom of the draw:angel: But, I really couldn't hope for a better draw. But, I still feel very worried that Roger will have a "thunder lips" day prior to the final:o

As for Rafa, I am hoping that Nalby takes him to the limits followed by Djerk. Rafa needs to come into that final drained in order for Roger to have any chancehttp://smiley.onegreatguy.net/hope.gif

John Wertheim from Sports Illustrated has Ferrer taking out Roger in the SF. Since Ferrer has never beaten Roger or seriously challenged him, even on clay, not sure why he thinks it will happen here. :shrug:

It's a very good thing when Roger's expectations are lowered.......less pressure:D

Preferably a 7 hour epic semi which due to rain had to be delayed to saturday:rocker2::devil:

http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/devilfire.gif2 hours on Friday and 5 hours on Saturday http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/dreamy.gif

nobama
05-23-2008, 08:03 PM
It's a very good thing when Roger's expectations are lowered.......less pressure:DPressure didn't stop him from winning 12 slams. :shrug:

nobama
05-23-2008, 08:10 PM
Latest gem from Djoker. Lets see him back it up at RG and Wimbledon. :armed:


And Nadal's latest too. Physically very good? Why I am I not surprised. He's been physically very good except for 5 minutes or so in the Hamburg final. :lol:

“Physically I’m feeling very very good. But this tournament is a very tough one. At the moment I’m concentrating on being fresh going into the 3rd round at least.”

rofe
05-23-2008, 08:16 PM
And Nadal's latest too. Physically very good? Why I am I not surprised. He's been physically very good except for 5 minutes or so in the Hamburg final. :lol:

Yeah, as EW pointed out, this generation is more cutthroat than the previous one.

holagirl56
05-23-2008, 08:19 PM
John Wertheim from Sports Illustrated has Ferrer taking out Roger in the SF. Since Ferrer has never beaten Roger or seriously challenged him, even on clay, not sure why he thinks it will happen here. :shrug:

Good. Wertheim's predictions are trash. Now all we have to do is wait for Bud...:p

I'm really pleased with the draw. Couldn't have worked out better for Feds to have Djoko, Nalbandian, and Rafa on one side. I'm actually glad that Davydenko is on Roger's side because Davy's a solid player and could help tune Roger up should he make the final (or the semis for that matter).

btw mellow yellow, did you intentionally spell barack obama's name wrong as a joke? just curious about that. ;)

Sunset of Age
05-23-2008, 08:23 PM
And Nadal's latest too. Physically very good? Why I am I not surprised. He's been physically very good except for 5 minutes or so in the Hamburg final. :lol:

Well... he did have a muscle strain, and those sort of things usually heal within a few days. Raf wasn't moving well during that Hamburg final - Rogi should have trashed him and it's only his fault that he didn't do so.

Good. Wertheim's predictions are trash. Now all we have to do is wait for Bud...:p

And Clay Death, of course... :lol:

mangoes
05-23-2008, 09:30 PM
Pressure didn't stop him from winning 12 slams. :shrug:

But it certainly didn't help nor was a non factor in his quest to win 2 RG trophies. I always think it's a plus for Roger when expectations for him have been lowered in the media.

nobama
05-23-2008, 09:37 PM
Well... he did have a muscle strain, and those sort of things usually heal within a few days. Raf wasn't moving well during that Hamburg final - Rogi should have trashed him and it's only his fault that he didn't do so. Yeah yeah whatever. :ras:

mangoes
05-23-2008, 10:04 PM
Yeah yeah whatever. :ras:

MY are you around?? Are you seeing Ads on your page??

lunahielo
05-23-2008, 10:09 PM
viel glück, Roger~~~~~~ :bounce:

Sunset of Age
05-24-2008, 02:40 AM
Yeah yeah whatever. :ras:

:ras: :ras: :ras: :lol: be happy for Rogi's good draw for RG, it's ALL that matters! :D

nobama
05-24-2008, 04:10 AM
In case Yanks are interested, Dish Network is offereing additional court coverage of RG on channels 473-477. DirecTV is doing the same on channels 701-706. And ESPN360 has live coverage of Phillppe-Chatrier, Suzanne Lenglen and Court 1. I must say for as crappy as tennis coverage is in the US they're doing a much better job with the slams. :)

nobama
05-24-2008, 04:10 AM
Federer hopes Higueras can make a difference at French Open
5/23/2008 3:15:00 PM

PARIS (AP) -If Roger Federer was looking for a coach with intimate knowledge of Roland Garros, he certainly found his man in Jose Higueras.

Federer conducted his post-draw French Open news conference Friday, busy dismissing the notion he's having an average season and refusing to look toward yet another final against Rafael Nadal. And Higueras? Done putting Federer through his paces for the day, he was holding court in a hallway near the main locker rooms.

He got a tap on the shoulder from Nadal, Federer's nemesis and the three-time reigning champion at the clay-court Grand Slam tournament. ``Rafaelito!'' Higueras called out as his countryman sauntered past.

He traded kisses on each cheek with Svetlana Kuznetsova, the 2004 U.S. Open champion and runner-up in Paris two years ago. He paused to chat in French with a man who worked tournament security when Higueras reached the semifinals twice in the early 1980s.

``I know everybody here over 60,'' Higueras said.

He coached Michael Chang to the 1989 French Open title, then guided Jim Courier to the 1991 and 1992 trophies. If Higueras thinks he can help Federer finally add the Coupe des Mousquetaires to his collection, he wasn't saying two days before the tournament.

Indeed, Higueras didn't want to answer questions about Federer. So it was left to the player to explain how he might benefit from a coach he's worked with only on-and-off since mid-April.

``A guy seeing it from a different angle. Somebody you can discuss and talk about tactics and certain things,'' said Federer, who plays 41st-ranked Sam Querrey of the United States in the first round Tuesday. ``If he sees something in my technique, that is something that you can then work on in the practice sessions. That is something we haven't had a chance to really look at. If you're down, sure, he can build you up. But I wasn't really down since we started working together.''

Federer insists he hasn't been down much at all, even though this is the first season since 2001 he'll begin the French having won only one title.

``I wish I could have won maybe a tournament here and there a little bit more. But if I keep on winning the next few, I don't really care what happened in the past,'' said the top-ranked Federer, whose 12 major titles put him two from Pete Sampras' career record. ``I'm happy with the season so far. You might think it's average. I don't.''

If anyone speaks more glowingly of Federer's chances than Federer himself, it's Nadal. He's always quick to point out who is No. 1 in the rankings and who is No. 2.

On Friday, Nadal called Federer ``one of the best clay-court players.'' Nadal noted that Federer has played in ``three finals in Monte Carlo, two finals in Rome, two more finals here, one more semifinal here.'' What the Spaniard neglected to mention is that seven of those eight matches were played against Nadal, and Federer's record in those encounters is 0-7.

As for Higueras, Nadal wondered how much Federer's game might have changed in such short time together.

``If I have a new coach, it's impossible to change my game in three weeks,'' said Nadal, whose first-round opponent is qualifier Thomaz Bellucci, a 20-year-old Brazilian making his Grand Slam debut.

While Federer hopes to become the sixth man to complete a career Grand Slam, Nadal wants to become only the second in history to win four consecutive French Opens.

Remember: Nadal is 21-0 at this tournament. He's also won 108 of his past 110 matches on clay overall. Then again, one of those losses came against Federer.

``All I need to know is that I know I can beat him,'' Federer said. ``We're six matches away, again, from each other. My focus is not on Rafa yet.''

Nadal could have a more interesting path, including a possible semifinal against No. 3 Novak Djokovic, who upset Federer en route to winning the Australian Open in January.

``I'm coming to this year's French Open as a more mature player,'' Djokovic said. ``And considering that fact, I believe much more in myself and that I can win against Rafa on clay, or Roger on any surface.''

He was drawn into a possible meeting with No. 7 James Blake of the United States in the quarterfinals. Other matchups could be Federer vs. No. 8 Richard Gasquet, Nadal vs. No. 6 David Nalbandian, and No. 4 Nikolay Davydenko vs. No. 5 David Ferrer.

Or Nadal's quarterfinal foe instead could be No. 19 Nicolas Almagro, who leads the tour with 25 clay-court victories. Federer might face Mario Ancic - the last player to beat him at Wimbledon, way back in 2002 - in the third round, and 6-foot-10 Ivo Karlovic in the fourth.

As the reigning men's champion, Nadal participated in Friday's draw. The reigning women's champion, Justine Henin, was not present. The 25-year-old Belgian retired suddenly this month, and won't be defending her title, so she was replaced for the festivities by 2007 runner-up Ana Ivanovic.

The women's quarterfinals could be No. 1 Maria Sharapova vs. No. 7 Elena Dementieva, No. 4 Kuznetsova vs. No. 6 Anna Chakvetadze, No. 2 Ivanovic vs. No. 5 Serena Williams, and No. 3 Jelena Jankovic vs. No. 8 Venus Williams. The Williams sisters could face each other in the semifinals - or the two young Serbs, Ivanovic and Jankovic, could meet.

Serena Williams, the 2002 champion, is the only past French Open winner in the women's field.

``It was such a long time ago,'' she said. ``Honestly, I doubt it even happened, so I'm going to have to win again.''

JediFed
05-24-2008, 06:10 AM
Federer vs Querrey
Federer vs Montanes
Federer vs Seppi
Federer vs Monaco
Federer vs Gasquet
Federer vs Davydenko
Federer vs Nadal.

Excellent chances.

nobama
05-24-2008, 02:25 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1021643/Federer-employ-aggressive-tactics-French-Open-beyond.html?ITO=1490#

Federer to employ aggressive tactics for French Open and beyond

By Sportsmail Reporter
Last updated at 1:48 PM on 24th May 2008


Roger Federer is adamant maintaining an "aggressive" approach will be the way to end great rival Rafael Nadal's dominance at the French Open.

The world number one's clay-court game has improved over the last two years but Nadal still holds the Indian sign over the Swiss star.

The Spaniard has beaten Federer eight out of nine times on the dirt, two of them coming in Masters Series finals in Monte Carlo and Hamburg during the past month.

Federer has tended to go for his shots more than Nadal in recent meetings between the pair - that was especially the case in his three-set loss in Hamburg last weekend - and his error count is therefore higher.

But ahead of an event reigning three-time champion Nadal has made his own, Federer insists that is the only way to defeat the Mallorcan king of clay.

"When we play each other now, it's different to two years ago because at that time we hadn't played each other very often," he said.

"Now we have played at least 16 times against each other, we know our games very well and we've had many tough and tight matches.

"I have been able to beat him on clay. I know I can beat him if I can play against him on a good day for me.

"I'm the one playing aggressive, I'm the one trying hard. I'm the one taking risks in these matches so I think I have a positive chance of winning here.

"Two years ago I was more pessimistic because I saw Rafa was completely dominating the game on clay. But now I think I am really close and I believe I have good tactics.

"I showed that in Monte Carlo and Hamburg. Just one point here and there makes the difference."

Federer is approaching what he labels "the important stretch of the season", with the French Open, Wimbledon, the Olympics and the US Open all taking place in the next three and a half months.

He has only won one tournament in 2008, a clay-court event in Estoril from which Nadal was absent, but insists he has been happy with his progress this year.

"Whatever has happened until now, I'm just happy I have enough matches in my legs," the 12-time grand slam winner added.

"I feel very positive about these upcoming tournaments, these are the ones I really wanted to get ready for.

"I wish I could have won maybe a tournament more here or there but if I keep on winning the next few, I don't really care what happened in the past.

"I'm happy with the season so far. People might think it has been average but I don't, I think it's been better than average.

"I'm looking forward to these next few months."

The French Open is the only grand slam event Federer does not have in his collection.

He has turned to a new coach, Jose Higueras, over the past few weeks but the Swiss admits there has not been enough time to make any changes to his technique.

And Nadal is not expecting anything new from Federer at this year's Roland Garros.

"In my opinion, it's very difficult to change the style of probably the best player in history in three or four weeks," said the second seed.

"So I don't know if he can do it. If you change coach, I believe it takes a long time to implement a change, not just two or three weeks. It's impossible."

Third seed Novak Djokovic looks to be the only other player capable of ending Nadal's unbeaten run on the Parisian clay.

The Serbian, who won the Australian Open earlier this year, is slowly closing in on the top two in the world but admits Nadal is on another planet when it comes to the clay.

If, as expected, he meets the 21-year-old at the semi-final stage like last year, Djokovic claims he will adopt a different approach to Federer.

"He (Nadal) is very superior on this surface," he said. "His main advantage here is his physical strength, his power and his ability to get all the balls back.

"You have to change a bit and just stay with him all the time, because besides his physical strength, he's very strong mentally.

"He plays every point like it's match point.

"There's a long way to go but if I play him, I will try to be patient."

nobama
05-24-2008, 02:41 PM
Apparently Roger played an exho with Murray today for Benny Berthet day. According to rf.com Roger won 6-3 played some great drop shots and smashes.

didadida
05-24-2008, 03:01 PM
Apparently Roger played an exho with Murray today for Benny Berthet day. According to rf.com Roger won 6-3 played some great drop shots and smashes.

nice practice for Roger :)

didadida
05-24-2008, 04:08 PM
Audio from Roger press conference

http://www.tennistalk.com/en/news/20080523/Federer,_Nadal_and_Djokovic_ready_for_Roland_Garro s

SUKTUEN
05-24-2008, 05:12 PM
GO GO GO Roger!!!

Roger also not start to play tomorrow~~

Good Luck in first Rd Roger!!!!!:D

nobama
05-25-2008, 01:03 AM
Saw this on rf.com from Andy Murray (trying to find source):

"I believe that Federer's highest level on clay, when he plays to his potential, is better than Nadal's," the British No1 said. "But Nadal plays like this the whole way through and Federer goes a little bit up and down. I'd still expect Nadal to win this year, but you can't say that Federer can't win it over the course of his career."

soraya
05-25-2008, 01:08 AM
Saw this on rf.com from Andy Murray (trying to find source):

"I believe that Federer's highest level on clay, when he plays to his potential, is better than Nadal's," the British No1 said. "But Nadal plays like this the whole way through and Federer goes a little bit up and down. I'd still expect Nadal to win this year, but you can't say that Federer can't win it over the course of his career."
comforting words from Andy.

nobama
05-25-2008, 01:13 AM
comforting words from Andy.
:sad: in a way. God I hope Roger is really motivated this RG and Nadal's luck finally runs out. Nothing worse this year than Nadal winning RG and going into W with tons of confidence. I'm sure the draw gods will be kinder to him there. :(

Sunset of Age
05-25-2008, 02:24 AM
Saw this on rf.com from Andy Murray (trying to find source):

"I believe that Federer's highest level on clay, when he plays to his potential, is better than Nadal's," the British No1 said. "But Nadal plays like this the whole way through and Federer goes a little bit up and down. I'd still expect Nadal to win this year, but you can't say that Federer can't win it over the course of his career."

I just can't help but LIKE Andy. :D

SUKTUEN
05-25-2008, 04:39 AM
Saw this on rf.com from Andy Murray (trying to find source):

"I believe that Federer's highest level on clay, when he plays to his potential, is better than Nadal's," the British No1 said. "But Nadal plays like this the whole way through and Federer goes a little bit up and down. I'd still expect Nadal to win this year, but you can't say that Federer can't win it over the course of his career."

yes, Roger need to teach Nadal's forcus in all the whole match.:mad:

*esther*
05-25-2008, 05:13 AM
I just can't help but LIKE Andy. :D

Andy oh Andy :inlove::inlove: My second love after Roger.:hearts:

Eden
05-25-2008, 10:50 AM
Roger Federer's French connection?

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-05/39216205.jpg
Although Roger Federer is still the No. 1-ranked player in the world, he's been working with coach Jose Higueras to improve his play on clay surfaces.
Jose Higueras, who has had success in Paris as a player and a coach, will try to get top-ranked Swiss over the top against Rafael Nadal.

By Chuck Culpepper, Special to The Times
May 25, 2008

PARIS -- Oh mon Dieu, there's that Roger Federer again, back at the French Open, hitting practice balls, admonishing himself, sliding around sub-ingeniously on the red clay, bound probably for another dreary thud into Rafael Nadal's biceps.

But look over there just a minute, just off the court while Federer hits with 50th-ranked Jose Acasuso on a warm Friday afternoon, for there stands possible, feasible help. There stands this one-human accumulation of red-clay wisdom.

There stands the Roland Garros sage and Palm Springs mainstay Jose Higueras, quietly observing, hugging a racket head, collecting loose balls, and we should all look so svelte at 55. We've all seen Federer coachless in swatches, and it's worked swimmingly all over the globe, but here the king of the planet has reached age almost-27 and never won, so in April he dialed the 760 area code for assistance.

Higueras won 15 of his 16 singles titles on clay, annihilated Jimmy Connors in a quarterfinal here and reached the semifinals in 1982 and 1983.

He coached a small bale of will with the name Michael Chang and heard the 17-year-old Chang thank him in his 1989 title speech.

He coached Jim Courier's dour diligence and heard the 20-year-old Courier say in the 1991 title speech, "I wouldn't be standing here without you."

A late-blooming Spaniard who would birth a desert tennis academy in California, Higueras has frequented Roland Garros for so long that he chats in French with security guards and claims to know everyone "over 60."

Maybe he can pinpoint the nuance that'll boost Federer up the yawning final rung.

Interrupted mid-hurry after the hitting session, Higueras first said he wouldn't be saying much about his turn with Federer. Then he said, "Roger knows more than anybody about tennis. It's just a matter of somebody else to talk to about tennis. Maybe exchange new ideas."

Since 2005, the theme has pretty much ripened and rotted. The maestro Federer, ranked No. 1 pretty much since Louis XVI got guillotined from the top, has won all the other Grand Slam tournaments at least thrice each, but he can't get this one, and he can't get this one because the Nadal family of Mallorca, Spain, decided to have a child in 1986. Then the tyke proved so impenetrable on clay that he has won three straight years here and lost only one of 22 French Open sets in 2007.

Federer met Nadal in a 2005 semifinal and lost in four sets, met him in the 2006 final and lost in four sets, met him in the 2007 final and lost in four sets, the whole sequence so headbanging that it's possible to forget to count Federer among the world's better clay-court players.

"Well, it is stupid for me to say something about if Roger is a good clay-court player," Nadal said before reeling off Federer's lifetime results from Hamburg, Monte Carlo, Rome and Paris. "With his numbers, you are one of the best clay-court players."

Federer just has this Mallorcan mountain in his way, so he consulted somebody from the Spanish mainland, from the southern village of Diezma.

They started remolding clay in mid-April, in Estoril, Portugal, where Federer won the title over No. 4-ranked Nikolay Davydenko. They continued in Monaco, where Federer lost a 7-5, 7-5 final to Nadal. Higueras went home after that but counseled by telephone during Rome -- a quarterfinal loss to Radek Stepanek -- and during Hamburg, a galling final loss, 7-5, 6-7 (3), 6-3, to Nadal.

Have they isolated any issues in Federer's game? With secrecy prized, Federer's answer to that might threaten world vagueness records.

"Well, the thing is we haven't had much time, you know on the practice courts," Federer said, soon adding, "But I think the important thing is to talk a lot, communication. And that's why Estoril and Monaco were quite difficult, you know. Because he came in, I was playing matches every day, and, you know, he's trying to tell you a few things, but he's worried to sort of give advice. But then it might be bad advice, you know, so . . . "

It's about "having a guy, you know, seeing it from a different angle," Federer said. "Somebody you can discuss and talk about, you know, tactics and certain things. You know, if he sees something in my technique, you know, that is something that you can then work on in the practice sessions. That is something we really haven't had a chance to look at.

"You know, if you're down, sure, he can build you up. But I wasn't really down, you know, since we've started working together, so that hasn't come into play yet."

Nadal, for one, finds reverberations implausible this soon. "In my opinion, it's very difficult to change style from probably the best [player] of the history in three, four weeks," he said. "So I don't know if he can do it, but in my opinion, I believe it's more a long work, not a work of two, three weeks. That's my opinion."

As Higueras aims to augment his long Paris tapestry -- he also advised Pete Sampras, Todd Martin, Sergi Bruguera, Carlos Moya and nowadays Robby Ginepri -- the ledger does show he can spot a clue within a match. The 1991 final between Courier and Andre Agassi saw Courier trail, 6-3, 3-1, before rain butted in as is custom this time of year, whereupon Higueras instructed Courier to back up on Agassi's serve, whereupon Courier won in five sets.


"I think coaches are overrated, but this is very satisfying for me," Higueras said that day.

"Basically, he's taught me how to play tennis instead of just hitting the ball," Courier said.

Federer long since knows how to play tennis, so he'll hope Higueras might renovate his thinking or mend some unheeded glitch.

It would be a turn of tennis history for a veteran of the graying process who lost those two semifinals here to Guillermo Vilas and Mats Wilander because, Higueras said, "I didn't have a big enough game."

"You never get the feeling of winning any tournament unless you win it yourself," Higueras said, "but obviously there's a great feeling from being with somebody winning a big tournament for the first time."


The French Open
* When: Begins today. Women's final, June 7; men's final, June 8.

* Where: Roland Garros, Paris.

* Last year's women's winners: Singles: Justine Henin (Belgium). Doubles: Alicia Molik (Australia) and Mara Santangelo (Italy).

* Last year's men's winners: Singles: Rafael Nadal (Spain). Doubles: Mark Knowles (Bahamas) and Daniel Nestor (Canada).

* Prize money: Men's singles, $8.45 million; women, $8.45 million.

Source: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-french25-2008may25,0,7880249.story?page=2

elessar
05-25-2008, 11:19 AM
Well start Nole :lol:

Mrs. B
05-25-2008, 11:57 AM
Well start Nole :lol:

This Gremelmayr from Heidelberg is good. :yeah:

Do you think he can keep the momentum? ;)

Eden
05-25-2008, 12:12 PM
Hi Claire, Eva :)

This Gremelmayr from Heidelberg is good. :yeah:

Well, he has already shown it against Roger this year in Estoril ;)


Do you think he can keep the momentum? ;)

The German moderator on Eurosport always mentions how nervous Novak was before the match. I also think Novak is a bit surprised about Gremelmayrs performance and still has to find into the match.

It's already a good achievement that Denis was able to win the 1st set, anything more would be a sensation.

Mrs. B
05-25-2008, 12:39 PM
Hi, Doris! :wavey:

I am enjoying the match (great rallies!) and kudos to your compatriot, he is playing his heart out! But Djoko is also finding his rhythm. Should he eventually meet Nadal at some point, this is good practice for him. :lol:

Nole has just broke him now for a 4-1 lead in the 3rd.

Sunset of Age
05-25-2008, 12:41 PM
^^ So the fun is over, alas - or so I fear.

After that latest comment from Daddy Djerko about Roger (see other thread), I must admit, that for the very first time in my life, I come close to actually DETESTING a player.

Okay, it's his dad, not the guy himself, but well... I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

SUKTUEN
05-25-2008, 04:05 PM
Andy oh Andy :inlove::inlove: My second love after Roger.:hearts:

Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:devil::devil:

SUKTUEN
05-25-2008, 04:06 PM
Roger will play in LENGLEN tomorrow!!!

Go Roger!!!!:bounce::bounce:

GOD Bless you in the first Rd!!:angel::kiss:



1 Women's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Monica Niculescu (ROU)
v. Jelena Jankovic (SRB)[3]




followed by
2 Men's Singles - 1st Rnd.
Roger Federer (SUI)[1]
v. Sam Querrey (USA)

Rogieva
05-25-2008, 07:25 PM
Robredo over Federer? :retard:

Anyway, allez ROGER :bounce: :bounce:

RogiFan88
05-25-2008, 08:56 PM
Despite not watching RG unless Rogi's on and he's won and I have to wait until the end of the day to find him on my recording... I'm still taking this slam one match at a time...

ALLEZ, ROGI, vs. Sam!!!

time to win a match on SL even if C Bimes is dissing you and making you earn your way to PC... unlike TFA and NTG, who've already proven their "quality"... :rolleyes:

can't wait for this slam to be over... :p

nobama
05-25-2008, 10:59 PM
Robredo over Federer? :retard:Not to mention:
Florent Serra (FRA) v. Richard Gasquet (FRA)[8]

Sunset of Age
05-25-2008, 11:24 PM
Not to mention:
Florent Serra (FRA) v. Richard Gasquet (FRA)[8]

Well... Richard Gasquet is of course the Home Boy, so I kind-of understand that decision. :shrug:

yanchr
05-25-2008, 11:40 PM
I almost suspect that Roger asked to start play on Monday, instead of Tuesday. Otherwise I don't understand his not being scheduled playing in Chaprier(?) on Tuesday :retard: :retard:

nobama
05-25-2008, 11:41 PM
Well... Richard Gasquet is of course the Home Boy, so I kind-of understand that decision. :shrug::confused: Gasquet is on after Roger's match on SL.

nobama
05-25-2008, 11:44 PM
I almost suspect that Roger asked to start play on Monday, instead of Tuesday. Otherwise I don't understand his not being scheduled playing in Chaprier(?) on Tuesday :retard: :retard:I thought it was weird that both he and Nadal were scheduled to play Monday considering top half R1 matches will finish on Tuesday. You might be right that Roger asked to play tomorrow or maybe because the weather forecast is so crappy for Tuesday they slipped him in tomorrow. Anyway I think he only plays one match on SL so maybe it's better for him to play there now than 2 or 3 matches down the road since it is a different experience than playing on PC.

RogiFan88
05-26-2008, 12:33 AM
PC is too good for the No 1 player, obviously... he ONLY made the finals twice in the last two years... and is already thrown by the wayside...

SUKTUEN
05-26-2008, 01:30 AM
ALLEZ!!!! ROGI!!!!!!:bounce::bounce:

Blondie1985
05-26-2008, 03:16 AM
good Luck Rogeeeeeeeeeeeer

nobama
05-26-2008, 04:19 AM
PC is too good for the No 1 player, obviously... he ONLY made the finals twice in the last two years... and is already thrown by the wayside...Why does it matter since he'll be playing on SL once anyway? Last year I think it was R2 or R3. All I care about is that he wins his match. The only :scratch: thing is why they'd put Robredo/Coria on PC.

lunahielo
05-26-2008, 04:36 AM
Just go out there and do your thing Roger!!
We'll be cheering for you~~from a lot of different places.
Luna

soraya
05-26-2008, 05:23 AM
Personally, I prefer SL, smaller and more intimate. I think they give people who got ticket for SL the chance to see the # 1 player in the world.:)

Emmaloo
05-26-2008, 05:57 AM
^^

I agree. I think those people just got very lucky with their ticket choices.

trickcy
05-26-2008, 07:33 AM
I don't mind where Fed plays as long as he wins. He plays on SL atleast for one match, so :shrug:. But it does suck for those who bought PC tickets hoping to watch Fed. I think USO is much better since those who have AA tickets can go to any court. I hope all those who have PC tickets and want to watch Fed can find some Rafatards who have SL tickets, or something. Have fun!

Daniel
05-26-2008, 07:59 AM
Good luck Roger in the 1R
:kiss:

ExpectedWinner
05-26-2008, 11:36 AM
:scratch: Interesting stats for Fed in the 1st set: 1 winner, 7UE. Is it true?

Now it's 2-2 nd set. 1W-11UE for Fed, 10W-4UE for SQR ???

Emmaloo
05-26-2008, 11:48 AM
The one winner is apparently an ace too.

I wonder if he's playing that poorly, the score line would suggest that, or if the live scores are messed up. They've screwed up on unforced errors and winners before. I'm willing to bet that's just wishful thinking from me though.

buzz
05-26-2008, 11:49 AM
:scratch: Interesting stats for Fed in the 1st set: 1 winner, 7UE. Is it true?

About right, he isn't playing good at all I think. Maybe a few more fh winners...

buzz
05-26-2008, 11:51 AM
Why is he playing in a black shirt? on a hot day in RG it can't be comfortable...

yanchr
05-26-2008, 11:56 AM
:scratch: Interesting stats for Fed in the 1st set: 1 winner, 7UE. Is it true?

Now it's 2-2 nd set. 1W-11UE for Fed, 10W-4UE for SQR ???
1 winner is definitely not right... didn't count, but must be more.

He was not playing bad I think.


Why is he playing in a black shirt? on a hot day in RG it can't be comfortable...
It's not black. It's dark blue.

Emmaloo
05-26-2008, 11:59 AM
Oh I'm watching now. He's playing like crap.

didadida
05-26-2008, 11:59 AM
:scratch: Interesting stats for Fed in the 1st set: 1 winner, 7UE. Is it true?

Now it's 2-2 nd set. 1W-11UE for Fed, 10W-4UE for SQR ???

it was 6 winners in the first set

Emmaloo
05-26-2008, 12:00 PM
I take back that last comment. It's more of his normal get out there win, try a few things first round slam play.

didadida
05-26-2008, 12:02 PM
Oh I'm watching now. He's playing like crap.

no he is not playing bad at all

buzz
05-26-2008, 12:03 PM
1 winner is definitely not right... didn't count, but must be more.

He was not playing bad I think.



It's not black. It's dark blue.

On my telly it looks like black, oh wel very dark bleu than.

I guess about 4 winners in the first set. he is making to much mistakes and isn't very aggressive. he can do better:devil:

yanchr
05-26-2008, 12:05 PM
Oh I'm watching now. He's playing like crap.

I take back that last comment. It's more of his normal get out there win, try a few things first round slam play.

:rolls: Calm down. It's only 1st round.

Sunset of Age
05-26-2008, 12:06 PM
Finally, the Robredo - Coria CRAPFEST is over so I can watch Feds. How has he been doing so far, folks?

Emmaloo
05-26-2008, 12:06 PM
no he is not playing bad at all

I took it back about three seconds after I posted it. Just look two posts down.

It's not crap, and Sam isn't a bad player and he's not the normal american bad on clay, but this is still typical first round slam play for Roger which normally isn't great even if he wins in straight sets.

yanchr
05-26-2008, 12:09 PM
Finally, the Robredo - Coria CRAPFEST is over so I can watch Feds. How has he been doing so far, folks?
One more set to go. Better than nothing I guess :wavey: But they are playing quickly. Not bad from Roger, enough to win.

didadida
05-26-2008, 12:09 PM
Finally, the Robredo - Coria CRAPFEST is over so I can watch Feds. How has he been doing so far, folks?

first set was a lot of ufs but in the 2nd he played better and returned better
he is playing ok

nobama
05-26-2008, 12:28 PM
Yea. Up a break in the 3rd. No A game today but didn't need it either. Hopefully it won't be that difficult for him to step it up next round.

Sunset of Age
05-26-2008, 12:32 PM
Yep. Fed in 'a-day-in-the-office'-mode.

nobama
05-26-2008, 12:41 PM
All 1st rounds are trick in the Slams. I'm sure Roger was just happy to get a straight sets win. Seemed happy in the post match interview. One good thing in the match is he served well. I don't have the exact stats but every set was over 60% and I think the 3rd set was close to 70%.

refero*fervens
05-26-2008, 12:44 PM
6-4 6-4 6-3 - I'll take nice, solid and ordinary :cool:

nobama
05-26-2008, 01:22 PM
I was surprised today. JMac actually talked a lot about Roger's illness, sounded amazed that Roger played thorugh it rather than taking time off. On ESPN2 yesterday I don't think there was any mention of it at all. Only PMac saying that Roger's played better on clay than HC this year. :rolleyes:

SUKTUEN
05-26-2008, 02:29 PM
Congrat Roger!!!!!:hearts::hearts::hearts:

Well Done!!:bounce::bounce:
Keep going Roger!!:bigclap:

didadida
05-26-2008, 03:02 PM
Roger practising in Paris
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZ72zBo17I8

SUKTUEN
05-26-2008, 03:21 PM
:worship:

SUKTUEN
05-26-2008, 03:22 PM
:worship:

JediFed
05-26-2008, 04:09 PM
Fed is cruising. Querrey is pretty decent for a first round match. :drive:

NYCtennisfan
05-26-2008, 04:31 PM
:scratch: Interesting stats for Fed in the 1st set: 1 winner, 7UE. Is it true?

Now it's 2-2 nd set. 1W-11UE for Fed, 10W-4UE for SQR ???

That stats for RG as messed up as usual. There have been players with 3 winners and 30 error counts. Fed had way more winners than 10 today. I don't think he can ever play 3 sets and hit only 10 winners.

As for the match, Fed didn't go for the lines, didn't go for extreme angles, didn't really play aggressively because he knew he didn't have to. Reminded me a lot of a match he played against PHM in the first round of Wimby in 2004 or 2005. JUst solid enough strokes and serve to get him through.

Rogieva
05-26-2008, 05:42 PM
I watched all the match ;)

Routine, simple 1r win and scoreline. Querrey didn't play too well, served quite poorly and didn't reall have much game for Roger. Roger played okay, got the job done and hit some good shots. Was a little grumpy all through the match and his BH still needs working on, too many shanks and stupid errors. A good win tho ;) Keep it up!!

BTW, play has stopped in RG cos of rain and now ES are showing a replay of 2007 final :crying2:

trickcy
05-26-2008, 07:05 PM
I'm glad they showed his match here. I thought he was quite OK. His usual 1st round stuff. One down, six to go.. Allez!

RogiFan88
05-26-2008, 09:03 PM
just happy Rogi won in straights today... so he'll have to keep stepping it up each round... as I didn't get his match [only boring Venus... pls lose next rd... Robredo/Guille [not missing that guy] and our fave Argie] I'd like a quick resume of his tennis today... I gather good enough to beat non-claycourter US player like SamQ but not good enough to beat a middling claycourter type??

Raquel
05-26-2008, 10:19 PM
Well done Roger :woohoo:

NYCtennisfan
05-26-2008, 10:41 PM
just happy Rogi won in straights today... so he'll have to keep stepping it up each round... as I didn't get his match [only boring Venus... pls lose next rd... Robredo/Guille [not missing that guy] and our fave Argie] I'd like a quick resume of his tennis today... I gather good enough to beat non-claycourter US player like SamQ but not good enough to beat a middling claycourter type??

He would've played differently if he were playing a middling claycourter type and most surely have wound up winning.

rofe
05-27-2008, 12:28 AM
Solid win - just the way I like it. Just did enough to get the W.

I hope he plays Montanes next.

lunahielo
05-27-2008, 12:34 AM
He did fine~~and as rofesaid, did just enough to get the W~~in straights.
Just~~on court...played...and left. Quick win.
No problems that I saw!

*esther*
05-27-2008, 12:57 AM
Yep. Fed in 'a-day-in-the-office'-mode.
:worship: I like this match, no coaster ride, at least for the first round match:angel:
Smooth and easy ride.

By the way, my cable TV covers RG from the starts till the end daily from the main courts only (so, they showing all the men & women matches), are you guys's TV broadcaster also the same?

RogiFan88
05-27-2008, 04:27 AM
He would've played differently if he were playing a middling claycourter type and most surely have wound up winning.

good to hear! ;)

SUKTUEN
05-27-2008, 04:52 AM
Come On Roger!!!!

Keep Going!!!

nobama
05-27-2008, 10:37 AM
Check this out. :cool:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p62/markeyesworld/rogquerryskill2.gif http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p62/markeyesworld/rogsoccerskills.gif

Noelman
05-27-2008, 11:42 AM
Nice skills and he's so cute on the left one :cool:

Or Levy
05-27-2008, 12:17 PM
Show off :)

I laughed at the "get ready to hit the ball...hmmm, is it out? lets check. Yes, it is out. Shall I strike the ball anyway? Okay. Ha, Still in - I rock."

refero*fervens
05-27-2008, 12:19 PM
Aww Fed haha - the return of Roger Hawkeye :p
Yes, we know you could have been a soccer player ;)

Thanks for posting :)

Sunset of Age
05-27-2008, 12:39 PM
Great stuff indeed. Thanks for posting!

didadida
05-27-2008, 12:55 PM
Check this out. :cool:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p62/markeyesworld/rogquerryskill2.gif http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p62/markeyesworld/rogsoccerskills.gif

love it :hearts:

SUKTUEN
05-27-2008, 03:44 PM
I love the flash!
thankyou so much!!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Roger!!!!:bounce::bounce:

trickcy
05-27-2008, 05:57 PM
Aww! They're so cute! :) Thanks MY :wavey:

Blondie1985
05-27-2008, 07:12 PM
Loooove it!! thanks

elessar
05-27-2008, 11:24 PM
:lol: I remember that, everyone in the crowd started laughing and applauding afterwards

nobama
05-28-2008, 01:49 AM
I see all the top Nike women are also wearing white/dark blue. Since that seems to be Nike's color scheme this year I still :scratch: why they put Nadal in neon green and puke brown.

http://i29.tinypic.com/e7nzeq.jpg

http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-20154265.jpg?size=67&uid={63f05ccc-9463-4fc7-8138-58fdce648a02}

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080527/capt.eb0b3090632e4df9b22e95e4ef70c2ff.france_tenni s_french_open_rog142.jpg?x=265&y=345&sig=rbMTOrQjkfFPe_ril3KLdg--

SUKTUEN
05-28-2008, 02:29 AM
Roger have no match today~!

Keep you heart Roger!

RogiFan88
05-28-2008, 07:14 PM
ALLEZ, RODGEUR, vs. Montanes!

Let's hope Rogi can dodge the rain tomorrow! Montanes doing well this year, as have many lowly-ranked Spaniards...

Eden
05-28-2008, 07:15 PM
I see all the top Nike women are also wearing white/dark blue. Since that seems to be Nike's color scheme this year I still :scratch: why they put Nadal in neon green and puke brown.


They probably do it to have a contrast to Roger's outfit ;)

The OOP for tomorrow is out:

Roger is 3rd on Court Chatrier

Venus Williams (USA)[8]
v. Selima Sfar (TUN)

followed by

Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)[22]
v. Carla Suarez Navarro (ESP)

followed by

Roger Federer (SUI)[1]
v. Albert Montanes (ESP)

rofe
05-28-2008, 08:11 PM
I am glad that Montanes won against Vliegen. Roger should play a decent clay courter (but not a good one ;) ) at this stage of the tournament.

didadida
05-28-2008, 08:16 PM
the weather forecast doesnt look good at all for tomorrow
hope Roger could play

Rogieva
05-28-2008, 09:10 PM
yes, rain is fore casted all day :o :help:

i want to see roger win again tomorrow :bounce:

Allez!!!

mangoes
05-28-2008, 11:15 PM
They probably do it to have a contrast to Roger's outfit ;)

The OOP for tomorrow is out:

Roger is 3rd on Court Chatrier

Venus Williams (USA)[8]
v. Selima Sfar (TUN)

followed by

Amelie Mauresmo (FRA)[22]
v. Carla Suarez Navarro (ESP)

followed by

Roger Federer (SUI)[1]
v. Albert Montanes (ESP)

Oh goodness......did they have to put Mauresmo before Roger. You never know what mental meltdown Amelie will have out there and stay on the court for hours:o

I really hope Roger gets his match played tomorrow....

nobama
05-28-2008, 11:18 PM
Oh goodness......did they have to put Mauresmo before Roger. You never know what mental meltdown Amelie will have out there and stay on the court for hours:o

I really hope Roger gets his match played tomorrow....Quite honestly I don't think anyone will play tomorrow. I checked the hour by hour weather on yahoo france all day tomorrow there is 60% chance of rain. :o And this weather forecast was pretty spot on Monday and Tuesday.

Federerhingis
05-28-2008, 11:32 PM
Oh goodness......did they have to put Mauresmo before Roger. You never know what mental meltdown Amelie will have out there and stay on the court for hours:o

I really hope Roger gets his match played tomorrow....

Too bad Momo is playing a chump, had she faced a decent player she would have been sent packing under 90 mins. I loved Mauresmo's game but her head case issues never went away, now add the injuries lack of motivation and aging, she's playing like an almost retiring player.

mangoes
05-28-2008, 11:34 PM
Quite honestly I don't think anyone will play tomorrow. I checked the hour by hour weather on yahoo france all day tomorrow there is 60% chance of rain. :o And this weather forecast was pretty spot on Monday and Tuesday.

Oh boy......:o What did it say for Friday??

EDIT: I saw the weather forecast for Friday.......Light Rain. I think we can look forward to Roger's match being on Friday. Was Rafa also scheduled to play tomorrow??

Anyway, due to Wimbledon, last year, when he made it to the finals after that crazy schedule and still annoyed Roger for 5 sets, I doubt the weather will affect him very much. But, it is :shrug: that the "3rd best player on clay.......better than Nalby and Davy" has already completed his 2nd round match:o

Daniel
05-29-2008, 08:58 AM
Good luck Roger :kiss: in your 2R match :D

Rogieva
05-29-2008, 12:38 PM
Roger on Chatrier now :rocker2:

C'mon Roger easy win pls!!!

Mrs. B
05-29-2008, 12:48 PM
Piggy and Roger playing parallel matches.

some people are watching Roger's match on PC with their umbrellas.

Hopp, Roger!

mangoes
05-29-2008, 12:53 PM
Make this quick Roger:D


Nalby Out!!:scratch:

BlueSwan
05-29-2008, 12:57 PM
I don't know about this match. Roger sometimes don't like it when players just keep putting the ball back in play. Djokovic disspelled of Montanes pretty easily in Hamburg though.

mangoes
05-29-2008, 01:05 PM
Anyone else watching ttc live stream.........I don't think McEnroe could stress enough how today would be a great day to beat Roger given the weather conditions:rolleyes: Montanes is just keeping that ball in play......and roger making silly mistakes. I think now would be a good time for it to start raining:o

BlueSwan
05-29-2008, 01:17 PM
If Roger loses this.....

Mrs. B
05-29-2008, 01:23 PM
just as well there's a rain break. Errors from the Fed's racket on those last few games. Roger saved that sp from Montanes. 5-5

He needs some Isostar and come back and get some groove and be aggressive. :armed:

yanchr
05-29-2008, 01:23 PM
If Roger loses this.....
:smash: :smash:

Rain ...:o

didadida
05-29-2008, 01:24 PM
Anyone else watching ttc live stream.........I don't think McEnroe could stress enough how today would be a great day to beat Roger given the weather conditions:rolleyes: Montanes is just keeping that ball in play......and roger making silly mistakes. I think now would be a good time for it to start raining:o

im watching it in swiss channel,Roger made a lot of mistakes and as usual Montanes played most of the shots to Roger's BH,serve is not looking good

elessar
05-29-2008, 01:25 PM
Saved two SP with a good S&V and then two consecutive aces :smash: Montanes has been pinning him to his BH side all set long, it might be a good idea to start running around it to his FHs Roger :sport:

Sunset of Age
05-29-2008, 01:25 PM
Play suspended, as expected.

Don't know about you folks, but I do not like what I've seen from Rogi so far. In short: too slow, too sloppy. :(

He should not have such troubles with Montanes, who, granted, is a very stable player but does barely anything different than keeping the ball in play.

Raf is cruising through - also expected - and making a lot better an impression than Roger. Not even to mention Djoko, and... who had thought it? Muzza.

Sorry for being the pessimist here... hopefully I'll be able to change my mind when the play resumes. :)

Out for a walk now. :wavey:

didadida
05-29-2008, 01:26 PM
:smash: :smash:

Rain ...:o

just in time for Roger to rethink well about his performance :rolleyes:

elessar
05-29-2008, 01:27 PM
Earlier rounds form means nothing, all that matters is getting through without losing too much energy. It's not raining heavily but still too much to start matches again

yanchr
05-29-2008, 01:33 PM
Earlier rounds form means nothing, all that matters is getting through without losing too much energy.
I agree. But he'd better get it done, and quicker than he is :o

Sunset of Age
05-29-2008, 01:36 PM
I agree. But he'd better get it done, and quicker than he is :o

Exactly. Problem is, he's missing soooooo many chances. The question is, is this all he's capable of doing or is he just saving energy? :shrug:

Rogieva
05-29-2008, 01:39 PM
Roger :smash:

wake up, was scared on those Sp's :scared:

please wrap up this set and start hitting well

mangoes
05-29-2008, 01:46 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: It's raining.......I ran off to talk to someone quickly, but before I left the computer, I thought to myself........please let it start to rain:lol: :lol: :lol:.......and it did!!

Now, hopefully, Roger can pull himself together:(

Blondie1985
05-29-2008, 01:50 PM
"No way I'm gonna keep quiet. You can understand how he could be angry but he needs to accept he's not the best anymore and to be a better sportsman. Federer may be the greatest player of his era but his personality doesn't live up to that standard"


Guys I saw this on GM, is this true......????

didadida
05-29-2008, 01:52 PM
"No way I'm gonna keep quiet. You can understand how he could be angry but he needs to accept he's not the best anymore and to be a better sportsman. Federer may be the greatest player of his era but his personality doesn't live up to that standard"


Guys I saw this on GM, is this true......????

yep it is true :mad:

elessar
05-29-2008, 01:54 PM
Exactly. Problem is, he's missing soooooo many chances. The question is, is this all he's capable of doing or is he just saving energy? :shrug:
Oh come on Karin, no need to exaggerate :p He's playing in crap conditions an early round match against the kind of spanish grinders he hates to play, we should have known it was going to be a shitty performance :lol:
Like I said he played total crap in the early rounds at the AO 07 his best tournament ever, then he played really great the next year only to play poor matches (by his standards) afterwards. Roger should get through in straights and improve from now on, of course that's not gonna be enough and he won't win RG but :shrug:
"No way I'm gonna keep quiet. You can understand how he could be angry but he needs to accept he's not the best anymore and to be a better sportsman. Federer may be the greatest player of his era but his personality doesn't live up to that standard"


Guys I saw this on GM, is this true......????
It is :lol: I translated it from an article in a french magazine called l'Equipe;)

mangoes
05-29-2008, 01:58 PM
"No way I'm gonna keep quiet. You can understand how he could be angry but he needs to accept he's not the best anymore and to be a better sportsman. Federer may be the greatest player of his era but his personality doesn't live up to that standard"


Guys I saw this on GM, is this true......????


Yes.......but when Roger demanded they be quiet, they did shut their mouths:lol: :lol: Why didn't he stand up and tell Roger off at that moment???

Blondie1985
05-29-2008, 02:01 PM
Geez I cant believe it.....:rolleyes::mad:


please do u have any links to this article????

Blondie1985
05-29-2008, 02:01 PM
Yes.......but when Roger demanded they be quiet, they did shut their mouths:lol: :lol: Why didn't he stand up and tell Roger off at that moment???

cause he's a coward... just like his ugly son

elessar
05-29-2008, 02:06 PM
Geez I cant believe it.....:rolleyes::mad:


please do u have any links to this article????

No I don't, it wasn't on the internet, just in an article about Novak drawing his strengh from the love of his family :vomit:

Blondie1985
05-29-2008, 02:12 PM
No I don't, it wasn't on the internet, just in an article about Novak drawing his strengh from the love of his family :vomit:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/doghouse_01/graphics/vomit_icon.jpg

didadida
05-29-2008, 02:48 PM
they are back........................

SUKTUEN
05-29-2008, 02:53 PM
is the rain stop????

Come On Roger!!!!!!!!!!

juninhOH
05-29-2008, 02:57 PM
calm down peeople, look at rogers grand slam success and see the amount of tiebreaks he faced in order to win them all

its not like he won everyone of his 12 slams without losing sets!

juninhOH
05-29-2008, 02:57 PM
roger 0-2 at the tb
1-2* now
2-2*
2-3*
*3-3
*4-3 yay, brak it.
4-4* :(
4-5* :(:( damn this montanez, HOLD ROGER.
*4-6 aarghhhhh
*5-6 ugh. ouch.! BREAK.

SUKTUEN
05-29-2008, 03:02 PM
Come On Roger!!!!

juninhOH
05-29-2008, 03:04 PM
ya 5-7, 76 montanes 1st set.

time to step up roger.

didadida
05-29-2008, 03:05 PM
20 ufs

yanchr
05-29-2008, 03:05 PM
:help:

SUKTUEN
05-29-2008, 03:05 PM
Come On Roger!!!!!!!!!!:bounce::bounce:

GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
Please help Roger to keep forcus in his match!!

Sunset of Age
05-29-2008, 03:06 PM
Oh come on Karin, no need to exaggerate :p He's playing in crap conditions an early round match against the kind of spanish grinders he hates to play, we should have known it was going to be a shitty performance :lol:
Like I said he played total crap in the early rounds at the AO 07 his best tournament ever, then he played really great the next year only to play poor matches (by his standards) afterwards. Roger should get through in straights and improve from now on, of course that's not gonna be enough and he won't win RG but :shrug:


No exaggeration at all, as you might have just noticed. Too many errors, too sloppy, too passive, too slow - especially in that TB. Hopefully he'll wake up now.

NYCtennisfan
05-29-2008, 03:06 PM
Montanes is no slouch on clay. He's won quite a few matches this year and best of all for him, he was in rhythm coming in today. Feds never likes having more than a day in between matches.

mangoes
05-29-2008, 03:07 PM
Instant Headache.......so many unforced errors from Roger:banghead: I am getting that same feeling of dread I got during the Stepanek match:sobbing: :sobbing:

Sunset of Age
05-29-2008, 03:09 PM
Montanes is no slouch on clay. He's won quite a few matches this year and best of all for him, he was in rhythm coming in today. Feds never likes having more than a day in between matches.

Very true... that's why all that... well let's just say whinage about ONE player only irritated me as much as it did, as the delays affect EVERYBODY.

elessar
05-29-2008, 03:10 PM
Roger:)

Sunset of Age
05-29-2008, 03:10 PM
Instant Headache.......so many unforced errors from Roger:banghead: I am getting that same feeling of dread I got during the Stepanek match:sobbing: :sobbing:

It was different then - Stepanek played exceptionally well in that match. Now Montañes surely isn't a bad player - very steady and indeed the kind of grinder that Roger doesn't like to play - but if Roger loses this, he has noone else to blame than himself... :shrug:

Okay let's not get ahead of time... hopefully at still THREE sets to go. :D

elessar
05-29-2008, 03:10 PM
Time to waste some BPs :)

EDIT : :)

EDIT 2 ::yippee:

juninhOH
05-29-2008, 03:12 PM
i wish i was watching that.

most of the matches roger loses I'm not watching.

mangoes
05-29-2008, 03:13 PM
It was different then - Stepanek played exceptionally well in that match. Now Montañes surely isn't a bad player - very steady and indeed the kind of grinder that Roger doesn't like to play - but if Roger loses this, he has noone else to blame than himself... :shrug:

Okay let's not get ahead of time... hopefully at still THREE sets to go. :D

I'm not comparing the matches............(and I think Roger losing to Stepanek was his doing)............I'm just experiencing the same dread for the possibility of Roger losing the match.

juninhOH
05-29-2008, 03:13 PM
ok nice he broke it finally

now hold!

trickcy
05-29-2008, 03:14 PM
He breaks in the second set.

Montanes won four sets continuously in a tie break now, didn't he?

juninhOH
05-29-2008, 03:15 PM
daniel closed the 1st set against melzer, yay! :)

trickcy
05-29-2008, 03:15 PM
3-0.

mangoes
05-29-2008, 03:16 PM
Insurance break needed here......

Sunset of Age
05-29-2008, 03:16 PM
Looks like Roger has indeed woken up now. :bounce:

Sunset of Age
05-29-2008, 03:16 PM
Insurance break needed here......

:scared:... keep quiet okay? :lol:

juninhOH
05-29-2008, 03:17 PM
i just hope he can close the set and make it easier from 3rd and on.

not a good start for the tournament for now.

however, other champs struggled a lot in some rounds, i remember Guga was about to get eliminated in 2001 and came back from 0-2 in the 4th round.

trickcy
05-29-2008, 03:18 PM
Insurance break needed here......

Yep.. :scared:

mangoes
05-29-2008, 03:18 PM
:scared:... keep quiet okay? :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: