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Fingon
07-02-2004, 05:58 PM
Federer Grosjean

Aces 2 1

Double Faults 2 1

Unforced Errors 10 16

Winning % on 1st Serve 22 of 27 = 81 % 19 of 37 = 51 %

Winning % on 2nd Serve 15 of 22 = 68 % 12 of 26 = 46 %

Winners (Including Service) 28 12

Receiving Points Won 32 of 63 = 51 % 12 of 49 = 24 %

Break Point Conversions 4 of 8 = 50 % 0 of 0 = 0 %

Net Approaches 16 of 22 = 73 % 5 of 19 = 26 %

Total Points Won 69 43

Fastest Serve 133 MPH 129 MPH

Average 1st Serve Speed 118 MPH 115 MPH

Average 2nd Serve Speed 102 MPH 88 MPH


this statistics are :bowdown:

Federer hasn't faced a break point, 88 % on first serve 68 on second serve.

I think Federer can be the new Sampras with respect to Wimbledon, I don't see how anybody can beat him on grass, other than himself.

Tennis Fool
07-02-2004, 06:00 PM
That thread title says it all...about Grosjean's chances at the moment.

Fingon
07-02-2004, 06:02 PM
That thread title says it all...about Grosjean's chances at the moment.


about anyone's chances IMO, it's been like this since last year, only that set that Hewitt won and mostly because Federer lost concentration because of the rain.

I tell you, this guy issomething else on grass, when I saw how he dismantled the big servers last year I knew it, he is better than Sampras on grass IMO.

More, he is the most complete player I remember to see in the men's field.

Marine
07-02-2004, 06:43 PM
I tell you, this guy issomething else on grass, when I saw how he dismantled the big servers last year I knew it, he is better than Sampras on grass IMO.



He wins 7 Wimbledon and we'll talk about it ok... ;)

WyveN
07-02-2004, 06:44 PM
Grosjean hasn't played well so that helped Roger

Goenitz_196
07-03-2004, 03:47 AM
I still think Pete Sampras at his best would edge out Roger Federer at his best on grass. I mean with Pete's style of play, Roger wouldn't be given much opportunity to use his box of trick shots. That's why Tim Henman has a good record against him...

Lalitha
07-03-2004, 06:13 AM
yeah, yeah Pete is the best. But I believe Roger will come up there as well.

¿esquímaux?
07-03-2004, 06:20 AM
about anyone's chances IMO, it's been like this since last year, only that set that Hewitt won and mostly because Federer lost concentration because of the rain.

I tell you, this guy issomething else on grass, when I saw how he dismantled the big servers last year I knew it, he is better than Sampras on grass IMO.

More, he is the most complete player I remember to see in the men's field.

Yeah Federer is a special talent!!! :worship: Who knows though, Sebbie might come out blazin' tomorrow :aplot:

Noodles
07-03-2004, 01:54 PM
I still think Pete Sampras at his best would edge out Roger Federer at his best on grass. I mean with Pete's style of play, Roger wouldn't be given much opportunity to use his box of trick shots. That's why Tim Henman has a good record against him...
According to a Belgian commentator (I think it was Carl Maes, Kim Clijsters ex-coach) Federer is the best tennis-player ever, talent-wise, even better than Pete Sampras. He only has to back it up with the slams.

Goenitz_196
07-03-2004, 04:00 PM
According to a Belgian commentator (I think it was Carl Maes, Kim Clijsters ex-coach) Federer is the best tennis-player ever, talent-wise, even better than Pete Sampras. He only has to back it up with the slams.

Wow...and that's coming from one person's opinion. In Pete vs. Roger discussions, everyone is always only talking about how Federer would be "invincible" if he were to play at his best. Has everyone already forgotten what Pete could be like at his best?

Noodles
07-03-2004, 05:56 PM
Wow...and that's coming from one person's opinion. In Pete vs. Roger discussions, everyone is always only talking about how Federer would be "invincible" if he were to play at his best. Has everyone already forgotten what Pete could be like at his best?
I never had these great feelings when seeing Sampras as I have now with Federer, I really look like this: :eek: watching him play.

Goenitz_196
07-04-2004, 12:30 AM
I never had these great feelings when seeing Sampras as I have now with Federer, I really look like this: :eek: watching him play.

Of course, 95% of the time Pete just kills the point off as early as possible, so he didn't need to pull off spectacular shots. He'll just rush into the net as early as possible (serving & recieving) and do the job, so either he kills the opponent or the opponent kills him. And mostly it's Pete that kills them. Boring to some people, but hugely effective. And don't forget about the number of consistent aces he is capable of hitting on a grass court, because like Goran, I'm sure they helped. Sort of wipes out the chances of the opponent getting into a rally and pulling off fancy shots don't you think?

Tennis Fool
07-04-2004, 12:41 AM
That tactic didn't work against Fed at Wimbledon :devil:

Goenitz_196
07-04-2004, 12:47 AM
That tactic didn't work against Fed at Wimbledon :devil:

What talk about living up to your name, smartass. 2001 was when Sampras was on his way DOWN.

Experimentee
07-04-2004, 08:28 AM
Federer is playing well and has the potential to be one of the greats. But its too early to be comparing him to Sampras, as Roger himself says, thats ridiculous. Roger needs to do so much more for his achievements to be compared.