MC SF: Roger Federer vs. Novak Djokovic

federer in 2.
i'm sure mtf members will give novak the edge
which makes roger a lock to win

querrey . this happens when u start threads prematurely

match hasn't finished retard

querrey . this happens when u start threads prematurely

5-0 in 2nd set is safe enough slick

match hasn't finished retard

right sam will come back from 5-0 in 2nd set and win it in 3
i'm the retard?

Easy one for Nole :shrug:

who will win?

Who do you think will reach the final ?
Here is the H2H ( they met only once on clay and it was 2 years ago in the same place ):

Federer 5/2 Djokovic

Monte-Carlo 2006 (R64)
Federer 63 26 63
Davis Cup Play off 2006
Federer 63 62 63
Australian Open 2007 (R16)
Federer 62 75 63
Dubai 2007 (1/4)
Federer 63 67 63
Montreal 2007 (final)
Djokovic 76 26 76
US Open 2007 (final)
Federer 76 76 64
Australian Open 2007 (1/2)
Djokovic 75 63 76

Not fast enough. There is already a thread.

oh no, first 4 of 5 votes go to roger.
we need novak to win the poll...thus resulting in roger victory

Nole in straights, one a bagel.

actually i was fast enough

dylan started it at 5-0 djokovic lol

federer with revenge ....novak's parents might not want to show up.
their son is going to get a beating.

actually i was fast enough

dylan started it at 5-0 djokovic lol

You started at MP Nole :shrug:

Federer in two.

Nole in 3 sets.

Novak in 3.

hmm? no i didn't

i started it when querrey's shot hit the net

My bank account and fave pair of heels for Fed to take this kid to the boneyard. We'll see- I'm not going to risk jinxing anything.

roger wins this poll -200
novak wins this poll +150

I voted Federer in two, maybe in two tie breaks ... but it could likely be a Djokovic win depending on how both play. But on clay, I would give Federer the edge.

Novak in 2, of course :)

oh no, first 4 of 5 votes go to roger.
we need novak to win the poll...thus resulting in roger victory
But MTFers love to see ROGI win so lets Go ROGER :angel:

hope for federer, but not sure!

fed in 2

My bank account and fave pair of heels for Fed to take this kid to the boneyard. We'll see- I'm not going to risk jinxing anything.

Betting shoes, let alone your favorite ones. That just shouldn't be done. :sobbing: :p


I say Roger in straights.

Djerk will win.........he is the true GOAT!!

D'Joke with a methodical 6-4 6-4 win.

the king is dead
djoko in 2

i'm thinking that djoko is going to win, but maybe roger can pull through :shrug:

19/37 to federer.
this will come down to the wire.

It is going to be a good match, if fed is not worn out. go Fed :yippee: :woohoo: :yippee: :woohoo: :yippee: come on curse :devil: :devil:

Depends on which Roger makes an appearance.

If the good Roger shows up, Djokovic will have his ass handed to him on a platter.

If the bad Roger shows up, there are two possible scenarios:
1). Defeated in a decisive 3rd set tiebreak;
2). Wins a match similiar to this:
ATP Masters Series Monte Carlo
Monaco
Clay
R64
Federer
6-3 2-6 6-3

i'm thinking that djoko is going to win, but maybe roger can pull through :shrug:

roger must be thinking the same :p

Vote for Novak but he have to forget what a word arrogant means.....and maybe he will win.

D'Joke with a methodical 6-4 6-4 win.

Agreed. Roger has one good win. He still hasn't shown the consistency yet to take out tough opposition.

If Federer plays as well as he did today, I'm pretty sure Djokovic does not stand much of a chance. So, I'm going to go for Federer in 2.

roger must be thinking the same :p

Oh, of course. :)

Please, just promise me that if Fed loses we don't have to hear some more mono sob stories, mkay?

Please, just promise me that if Fed loses we don't have to hear some more mono sob stories, mkay?

You, optimist:)

new odds
novak wins poll -300
roger wins poll +250

Please, just promise me that if Fed loses we don't have to hear some more mono sob stories, mkay?

Ok, we'll all agree that Nole is the undisputed GOAT :worship:

I think Novak in two, but not sure.

Losing this game might be one of biggest defeat of Roger.

Fed should win this one - current form aside, he's better, more proven claycourter han Nole. I'm definitely hoping for an upset though.

It's about time for Fed to go packing and home.
And he doesnt wanna play with Rafzilla :worship: in the final anyway.

The Djoke in 2, maybe three.
:angel:

Djokovic in 2 :shrug:

I think it's hard to predict, even though I said Novak in 2. Federer is certainly in much better form than in Estoril, but will it hold up? Novak has been easily beating his opposition, but up till now it's been relatively weak. Tomorrow will be the test as to who will be Rafa's main contender on clay over the next few weeks.

Hopefully FedGod shows up instead of FedMug/MugFed.

I think it's hard to predict, even though I said Novak in 2. Federer is certainly in much better form than in Estoril, but will it hold up? Novak has been easily beating his opposition, but up till now it's been relatively weak. Tomorrow will be the test as to who will be Rafa's main contender on clay over the next few weeks.

The point is that Roger is battle-tested beating Nalby. Who has Djoko beaten? Sam Querrey is a joke.

Please, just promise me that if Fed loses we don't have to hear some more mono sob stories, mkay?

Fed/his fans can't lose really...if Fed wins they'll be saying "He had mono and this match was the proof"...and if Fed loses they'll say "he was too slow...must be still recovering from mono."

Roger still has some work to do to re-esablish his dominance. Djoko-tards believe that Roger isn't king of the hill anymore. Roger will prove them wrong tomorrow.

Fed in 2:)

Fed/his fans can't lose really...if Fed wins they'll be saying "He had mono and this match was the proof"...and if Fed loses they'll say "he was too slow...must be still recovering from mono."

No excuses. If Fed loses, then it's because Djoko played better. However, the AO semi was definitely tainted.

F... me if I know. If Roger is able to play like today he is going to win in 3. But just a little less from him and he might even lose in straights.

Fed/his fans can't lose really...if Fed wins they'll be saying "He had mono and this match was the proof"...and if Fed loses they'll say "he was too slow...must be still recovering from mono."

None of that matters. I don't care if anyone says a win over Federer isn't a real win right now. Maybe it isn't. Still, the player who wins gets the points, and that's what counts for me.

i hope roger...but i don't think so!

After this really bad first set against Sam Q., I'm not sure, cause Fed raise up like Phenix in the match against Nalby...he seems healthy at the moment ;).
I hope Nole in 3.

The point is that Roger is battle-tested beating Nalby. Who has Djoko beaten? Sam Querrey is a joke.

Weren't you the one that was bashing Fed for some time now...until he beat Nalbandian today?

Roger in 2 obviously 6-4 / 6-3

Good test for the djokovic fitness, but I think he will take it.

Parker

No excuses. If Fed loses, then it's because Djoko played better. However, the AO semi was definitely tainted.

By that same argument Fed's win at Wimby 2003 over a chronically injured Philipoussis is also "tainted."

You guys really need to stop drinking the Kool-aid.

Will be very close, and I'm looking forward to the match. Yes, I want Nole to win, but then I like Roger too, and I won't be too sad if he wins. If Roger plays like he did today I think he has a slight edge, but very slight :shrug:

Even if FedGod shows up Nole will still be too big :)

Fed's back and with a revenge.

No excuses. If Fed loses, then it's because Djoko played better.

Can we have that written in blood please?

Having seen Fed today I think he'll probably win in three but would love to see Nole do it.

Djokovic in 2

Federer is tired as hell

We have same thread.

Federer takes this I think..

congrats djoko on your 1st MC title

:lol:
From what I've heard Fed played very well, and Djoker with two bagels in the last two matches! this should be a good one...

Nole..I'm afraid

Interestingly, despite Federer playing very well indeed today, Bwin has Djokovic as clear favourite.

Odds:

Federer: 2.10
Djokovic: 1.65

That's unusually high odds on Roger winning a tennis match.

I would not count Roger out at all.

Interestingly, despite Federer playing very well indeed today, Bwin has Djokovic as clear favourite.

Odds:

Federer: 2.10
Djokovic: 1.65

That's unusually high odds on Roger winning a tennis match.

I don't gamble (except with v-cash), but I would take those odds. Roger's ground strokes are far better than anything Djokovic has faced so far.

Roger in 3. SweatyFed will prevail :D

Interestingly, despite Federer playing very well indeed today, Bwin has Djokovic as clear favourite.

Odds:

Federer: 2.10
Djokovic: 1.65

That's unusually high odds on Roger winning a tennis match.


So does Betfair

Fed - 2.14
Nole - 1.87

But what's more interesting is that until Fed won today Nole was 2nd favourite for FO according to Betfair...now it's

Fed - 7.2
Nole - 7.4

practically tied.

this stupid race for the first thread usually ends in 3 threads for the same match. Do we need this???

Whoever wins mtf will lose. There will be dozens of mono-bouncing threads, Mirka and Dijana will get proper bashing they deserve, those sluts, Fedfan might commit suicide, Mikey will just call us all farters, Alo will find reasons for Novak's loss in 14th century when Kantakuzin betrayed Dusan... oh and Blondie might light up a candle or two... she has them anyway, so why not :shrug:

this stupid race for the first thread usually ends in 3 threads for the same match. Do we need this???

no we don't.

Doesn't really matter because whoever wins will be in for a beatdown on Sunday.

Whoever wins mtf will lose. There will be dozens of mono-bouncing threads, Mirka and Dijana will get proper bashing they deserve, those sluts, Fedfan might commit suicide, Mikey will just call us all farters, Alo will find reasons for Novak's loss in 14th century when Kantakuzin betrayed Dusan... oh and Blondie might light up a candle or two... she has them anyway, so why not :shrug:

:lol: you know this forum too well despite not posting much

:lol: you know this forum too well despite not posting much

I'm usually speechless after spending time on reading all the quality GM stuff ;) . Tnx for the tip about gifs, i have few nice i'm saving :devil: :wavey:

Vamos Fed.

Depends on whether Roger will be able to show the same form as today - which I doubt as he had a hell of a job today, so he'll surely be tired.

It's a difficult one to call this. I think it could go either way. Whoever plays best on the day will win (obviously)

59:50 for Novak...so, there's still a hope.:)

I'm usually speechless after spending time on reading all the quality GM stuff ;) . Tnx for the tip about gifs, i have few nice i'm saving :devil: :wavey:
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Tough call, I am thinking Novak in three.

Novak will drop no more than 9 games in a straight sets win.

Fed sure. he's confident now because he beats Nalbi, not simple. Nalbi is better than Djoko I think so... Go fed ;)

I just saw the poll results. l_mac and the Serbian fans are all united in the vision of a glorious victory for Novak Djokovic:lol:

Djokovic in 3 sets.

Doesn't really matter because whoever wins will be in for a beatdown on Sunday.


Good point, never good to forget the big picture.:angel: Hopefully these two tire each other out and nadal hands out a bagel or two on sunday.

Parker

Federer in 2-0 or 2-1.

Both of these guys really want to to win this seeing that they really dislike each other...I'm going to say Djokovic wins 7-5, 6-3.

Djokovic in 2 :shrug:

Reading around how Federer played against Nalbandian, seems like this might be a tight affair. Otherwise I would say Djokovic is the favourite, and it certainly feels like he has the edge still.

That said, the fact that Federer came back when he was a set down 4 times very recently is interesting and might mean a lot in this match.

This is the match I have been waiting for on clay however I'm afraid it will be a one sided affair

N.Djokovic in 2

This is the match I have been waiting for on clay however I'm afraid it will be a one sided affair

N.Djokovic in 2

Sadly i think so too. However, i'll be cheering for Fed :p

Sadly i think so too. However, i'll be cheering for Fed :p

Me too ;)

I can't predict...

The more people vote for Nole, the better the outlooks for Rogi. :armed:

The more people vote for Nole, the better the outlooks for Rogi. :armed:

;)

;)

;) ;) ;)

Djokovic in 3.

I've been telling people all week not to write Federer off, but I think this will be one match too far. I suspect Roger will be tired from Estoril and his last two matches, whilst Novak is going in almost completely fresh from a break and several easy matches. Federer will make a fight of it though, but I think Djokovic will sneak a deciding set. I really hope not though, because this place will go crazy with Djokovic worship again!

**edit** I forgot about the comfortable Monfils match, I was referring to Federer's struggles against Ramirez-Hidalgo and Nalbandian.

I'm rooting for Fed but my money is on Djoko~

Djokovic in 3.

I've been telling people all week not to write Federer off, but I think this will be one match too far. I suspect Roger will be tired from Estoril and his last two matches, whilst Novak is going in almost completely fresh from a break and several easy matches. Federer will make a fight of it though, but I think Djokovic will sneak a deciding set. I really hope not though, because this place will go crazy with Djokovic worship again!

This place will go crazy either way :).

Even if FedGod shows up Nole will still be too big :)

Actually I think Djokovic will win because Federer has not fully convinced me with 1 match.

However, if Federer plays his best Federer will win.

Just as Lendl found in the 80's when a more talented players plays well Djokovic will lose.

Either way neither player will challenge Nadal.

This is clay not hardcourts. Roger in 3 sets, the first two pretty close, the third one easily for Roger. sth like 4-6 7-5 6-2

All,

I usually don't pick a winner - so why start now. I must say though that from all reports - Roger is back to his old similar self. What does D-Vic have that Roger and Rafa also have? All together now................Belief. Roger believes again, and in my estimation it will give him all kinds of confidence. He also has more experience - so he should try to rustle some of it up. His coach seems to be having a positive affect - and so on and so forth. I think it'll be his match to lose. He is finally playing with controlled aggression and pinpoint accuracy again.

I thought I was watching a little bit of Marat and James the other day when he was spraying the ball and going for too much too soon. He did well to come back from 5-1 down. That is most definitely what champions do.

We shall see - said the peek a booers.

tough call. nalby's serve and FH gave so many f'in UE's yesterday. he was poor in 2nd and 3rd sets. djoko served 80% in his match against querrey. i fear for fed. djoko might eat him alive. either way nadal is going to win as he will roast an injured davydenko

One of the three matches on clay I would like to see this season. I am very curious to see whether Djokovic can get to the Federer backhand on clay. I don't know, but expected to see Federer as the slight favourite in the markets, considering the fact that he will be very motivated to extract revenge after the AO and also that Djokovic has not been tested at all so far on clay. I will vote for Roger in 3, after Nole over-executes his dropshots, but it could very well go the other way.

This match also has an important impact on the ATP race, Roger absolutely needs the win here to narrow the gap as much as possible.

At this point, we have on the poll:

-Federer 80
-Djokovic 89

Making the assumption that jinxes and counter-jinxes cancel each other, :p this implies a probability of Djokovic winning of 0.53. From betfair, we have at thisd moment Djokovic 1.86:1 for a probability of Djokovic winning 0.54. Remarkable.

Sweet!! Have they played on clay before??

And is it offical that Federer is no longer suffering from his laundry list of ailments???

Just checking - so I can know how hard to LOL when he loses tomorrow :D

Sweet!! Have they played on clay before??

And is it offical that Federer is no longer suffering from his laundry list of ailments???

Just checking - so I can know how hard to LOL when he loses tomorrow :D
They played only once on clay before in Monte Carlo (R64) 2006. Fed won 6:3 2:6 6:3.

if ability is what's in question then Roger has more tennis ability than Novak, his brothers and all of fucking serbia combined.

as far as the mental midgetness of fed lately, I am giving the edge to Djokovic in this match. if Federer plays the way he did on the last two sets vs Nalby then djokovic wont last long there. but this wont happen. watch Roger's first serve percentage be below 55% and high count of unforced errors.

i think Fed can do it,

the match with Fit Dave showed he's getting back to a high calibre.

Roger's movement and defense on clay in better than Novak's. Roger in 2 very close sets, 7-6,7-5.

Anyone's match...all I know is that this is a HUGE match for both...as well as for the Crasstastic 4.

Dont really think Federer can win,
Nalbandian didnt serve well and his forehand wasnt that good during that match.
Im sure Djokovic will have a very high first serve percetage(80%) like he did against Querrey,
then if Federer has a low first serve percetage like he did against Nalbandian, his second serve probably will keep getting attacked. It's definitely no advantage for him.
So far, I see Djokovic as the one who can win on important points, not Federer. He probably will win in 2

Fed/his fans can't lose really...if Fed wins they'll be saying "He had mono and this match was the proof"...and if Fed loses they'll say "he was too slow...must be still recovering from mono."

for me, regardless if he wins or not, and even after yesterday's win over Nalby, i still think he's recovering. Not that he still has mono, that i don't agree, and not that he is physically impaired. But i'm giving him one entire year to recover to a good technical consistency. I'm not saying that I'm expecting the heights of 2006, but at least a very crisp and sharp game. Surely, after mono and some time off, Roger's gonna need to regroup all aspects of his game. It's like his machine just fell apart, and he was dragging them along all barely in tact, and as time has gone by, he's slowly putting the pieces together, sometimes again falling apart, but sooner or later he's going to put all the pieces back together again. This is why i'm really happy that Federer has been improving and improving. It means he's walking an uphill road.

The bottom line for me is that regardless of the results Roger will again step it up. but of course on top of that, i hope that roger will win. but that IS a bonus.

...as well as for the Crasstastic 4.

And the Hutt, no doubt.

for me, regardless if he wins or not, and even after yesterday's win over Nalby, i still think he's recovering. Not that he still has mono, that i don't agree, and not that he is physically impaired. But i'm giving him one entire year to recover to a good technical consistency. I'm not saying that I'm expecting the heights of 2006, but at least a very crisp and sharp game. Surely, after mono and some time off, Roger's gonna need to regroup all aspects of his game. It's like his machine just fell apart, and he was dragging them along all barely in tact, and as time has gone by, he's slowly putting the pieces together, sometimes again falling apart, but sooner or later he's going to put all the pieces back together again. This is why i'm really happy that Federer has been improving and improving. It means he's walking an uphill road.

The bottom line for me is that regardless of the results Roger will again step it up. but of course on top of that, i hope that roger will win. but that IS a bonus.

ain't got a lot of time. He is 26.

Federer in 3 I think

At this point, we have on the poll:

-Federer 80
-Djokovic 89

Making the assumption that jinxes and counter-jinxes cancel each other, :p this implies a probability of Djokovic winning of 0.53. From betfair, we have at thisd moment Djokovic 1.86:1 for a probability of Djokovic winning 0.54. Remarkable.

I remember an old thread (first Nadal vs Roger in RG SF 05) which was as remarkable as u can get in this concern

Federer in 3 I think

My cash is on THAT - thanks to all the Doomsayers on MTF. :worship:

The more people vote for Nole, the better the outlooks for Rogi. :armed:

for the first time this year, we're close for a Fedal final ;) you must be very happy. :)

Karin - unfortunately as we know Fed always follows a good performance by a totally MUGGY one. Expect an easy str8 sets trashing by the hated Djoko. :sad:

for the first time this year, we're close for a Fedal final ;) you must be very happy. :)

I am. Even if Roger loses his semifinal match, - as long as he doens't repeat his Carbunkle!Fed-performance against RRH - I think he did pretty well.

A Fedal Final would only mean the Ultimate Cherry on the Cake for me, as there's no doubt on who will eventually take this title IMHO. :D

Dont really think Federer can win,
Nalbandian didnt serve well and his forehand wasnt that good during that match.
Im sure Djokovic will have a very high first serve percetage(80%) like


agree . Djoko wins this. he is a more complete player. 80% first serves. sick stuff from djoko. he could beated nadal. federer has played at times badly (loose against RRH, gave chances to a choking Monfils, and lost 1st set against Bandy making UE). Also fed looked like he was breathing very hard against Bandy (working bloody hard he was) . he doesn't look full fit yet.

It's time to revenge yourself!!!come on Roger!!!!

Djokovic in straights :sad:

Federer in 2 sets.

federer in 2.
i'm sure mtf members will give novak the edge
which makes roger a lock to win

:lol:

I think Djoko will edge it.

Fed played a fantastic match yday, I just hope he can build on it and prove me wrong.

Fed is winning this one. He has been playing with a lot of heart during the clay court season.

And tomorrow when he beats Rafa we shall witness...THE RETURN OF THE KING! :worship:

I think Fed will recover his form in time to defend most of his clay points and win his 6th Wimbly. Although I think this year he will play Halle.

Come on, Fed is the NUMBER one. Novak is not so strong on clay. Comparing to Fed. Go fed ! :)

djokovic in 3

I'm afraid I'd have to go with Djokovic, perhaps in two close sets.

a. Fed is slowly getting back to form, but I don't think he can consistently play like yesterday yet. After the relatively great display yesterday, I would expect his performance to dip today.

b. The pressure is all on Federer to prove himself against Djokovic. In comparison, Djokovic has nothing to worry about because he has defeated him in the bigger stage this year; a loss would suck, but it wouldn't have much implications. It'll just be another experience, another lesson learned.

c. Finally, Djokovic plays his best against Federer. He loves beating Roger more than anyone else, possibly to get back at the side comments the latter gave throughout the years. You know how Djokovic cares about what other people think, and defeating Federer is a way to prove him wrong and stroke his overly-conscious ego.

Dont really think Federer can win,
Nalbandian didnt serve well and his forehand wasnt that good during that match.
Im sure Djokovic will have a very high first serve percetage(80%) like he did against Querrey,
then if Federer has a low first serve percetage like he did against Nalbandian, his second serve probably will keep getting attacked. It's definitely no advantage for him.
So far, I see Djokovic as the one who can win on important points, not Federer. He probably will win in 2

Here is stats from Monte Carlo, 1.serve percentage
Fed vs Hidalgo 62%
Fed vs Monfils 63 %
Fed vs Nalby 52%
Tournament average for Fed so far 58%
Djoko vs Ljubicic 63%
Djoko vs Murray 44%
Djoko vs Querrey 80%
Tournament average so far for Djokovic 62%.
As you see Djoko`s first serve is more unstable than Fed`s. And it is much easier to keep high percentage of your first serve in short match against inferior player when you are sure that win is yours anyway. It is lot harder in close match against world #1, I´m sure there will be nervous service games, lot of breakpoints they both have to save. It is almost impossible to serve against Fed like you do in practice session.
I think it will be close match and Federer will win it in three.

wtf, fed is winning in votes. 111 to 103
hope mtf poll is right for once

Federer in two. An on-form Nalbandian is a better player than Djokovic and Federer beat him.

Stick it to the Djoko moms and pops Roger.

Stick it to the Djoko moms and pops Roger.

Really. What is this, a junior tournament?

Federer in two. An on-form Nalbandian is a better player than Djokovic and Federer beat him.

Hate to say I told you so.

I also stand behind the bit about an on-form Nalbandian being a superior player to Djokovic. Nalby will take Djoko out if they play this season (if he can resist the lure of all the pizza on offer in Rome).

Stick it to the Djoko moms and pops Roger.

:yeah:

Interestingly, despite Federer playing very well indeed today, Bwin has Djokovic as clear favourite.

Odds:

Federer: 2.10
Djokovic: 1.65

That's unusually high odds on Roger winning a tennis match.


I don't gamble (except with v-cash), but I would take those odds. Roger's ground strokes are far better than anything Djokovic has faced so far.

I hope someone took this advice

Well done!!Roger!

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Djokovic in 3^

Morons!!

whoa man

we predicted the outcome of a match incorrectly and all of a sudden we're branded as 'morons'

fuck off retard

whoa man

we predicted the outcome of a match incorrectly and all of a sudden we're branded as 'morons'

fuck off retard
The fact that so many of you thought that Fakervic would defeat Federer is moronic, to say the least.
Many people in there also predicted Federer would lose to Monfils and would lose to Nalbandian.

yep, it's completely moronic, seeing as federer is only just beginning to go back to his old self, and djokovic was actually the favourite to win this match

I'm a fan of Djokovic but no excuses, he had to finish the match

yep, it's completely moronic, seeing as federer is only just beginning to go back to his old self, and djokovic was actually the favourite to win this match
Why was Djokovic favourite to win the match? Anyone doubting Federer must have been blind or something.

Why was Djokovic favourite to win the match? Anyone doubting Federer must have been blind or something.

betting favourite, and you're biased