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Nadal def Ferrer 6-1 7-5

HeretiC
04-25-2008, 04:56 PM
And like I said previosly: Pics will fight until the end but he won't be able to escape the defeat in straights (although he had a tons of chances to get that second set). Rafa, pls double bagel Fixer tomorow . :wavey:

Lleyton_
04-25-2008, 04:57 PM
Ferrer :retard::retard::retard::retard::retard::retard:

Kuhne
04-25-2008, 04:57 PM
choke of the tourney. worst than Hidalgo

But I am happy for Rafa.

rocketassist
04-25-2008, 04:57 PM
Pics choked.

Richardgm
04-25-2008, 04:57 PM
Fucking amazing for Rafa.. good comeback!

fsoica
04-25-2008, 04:57 PM
6-1, 7-5, but..

his clay dominance will be over this year...

Djokovic has his chances, Federer and Davydenko also...


Ferrer outplayed Rafa today, let's be honest guys...

Sjengster
04-25-2008, 04:57 PM
I do hope the people who complained about Hidalgo's choking on Wednesday will call that as they saw it.

TheBoiledEgg
04-25-2008, 04:57 PM
Kolya will show Piggy who's the BOSS tomorrow.

Ferrer choked :help:

Beforehand
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Yeah, I don't even use the word "choke" very often, but Pics choked that one BADLY.

G4.
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
he really shit his pants for someone who is mentally tough

Jimnik
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Great effort from Ferrer. Unlucky.

Nadal - greatest clay player of all time.

HNCS
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
i didn't watch the match. but that's interesting "ferrer outplayed rafa"

Slasher
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Great second set, some massive forehands from Ferrer.

arm
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
well, ferrer, at least you proved that Nadal is not that unbeatable on clay. :)

maxxo
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
lucky one rafa

Kitty de Sade
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Linda, this one is for you. :hatoff:

Best guy you want on the business end of tennis, bar none. Nice work. :yeah:

Kuhne
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Can't wait for the people saying Hidalgo choked and Federer sucked to start their SPARTA!!!! gay bullshit. this was a horrible choke... wow.. thats all i can say

Outfielder
04-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Nadal was outplayed.

Johnny Groove
04-25-2008, 04:59 PM
Ferrer was never winning this people, give it a rest

Branimir
04-25-2008, 04:59 PM
Hahahahaa. Outplayed by winning 6 games of 18?

l_mac
04-25-2008, 04:59 PM
choke of the tourney. worst than Hidalgo

But I am happy for Rafa.

Pics choked.

I do hope the people who complained about Hidalgo's choking on Wednesday will call that as they saw it.

Kolya will show Piggy who's the BOSS tomorrow.

Ferrer choked :help:

Yeah, I don't even use the word "choke" very often, but Pics choked that one BADLY.


Never in doubt :rolls: :rolls: :rolls:

Rafa :retard: :smash:

Not a good match :mad: Stop with the doubles and get your bandages back on.

anon57
04-25-2008, 04:59 PM
Great second set from Ferrer:yeah:, still not enough to take a set from Nadal. Great play from Nadal at times, he was too passive at times too though. The match still shows why Nadal is by far the best player on clay at the moment.

W!MBLEDON
04-25-2008, 04:59 PM
1ST SERVE %
Ferrer 68%
Nadal 73%

ACES
Ferrer 0
Nadal 0

DOUBLE FAULTS
Ferrer 2
Nadal 1

1ST SERVE POINTS WON
Ferrer 52%
Nadal 68%

2ND SERVE POINTS WON
Ferrer 35%
Nadal 50%

WINNERS
Ferrer 22
Nadal 12

UNFORCED ERRORS
Ferrer 39
Nadal 13

BREAK POINTS WON
Ferrer 2/4
Nadal 6/9

TOTAL POINTS WON
Ferrer 53
Nadal 72

rofe
04-25-2008, 05:00 PM
I do hope the people who complained about Hidalgo's choking on Wednesday will call that as they saw it.

You are crazy. Rafa showed his true spartan side. He dug in and saved all those break points. David could only nod his head in amazement.

Sjengster
04-25-2008, 05:00 PM
Ferrer was never winning this people, give it a rest

Never mind the blow at 5-4, 40-0, he led 3-0 and 40-15 on serve earlier on before losing four points in a row - one more good return game and he could have got a bagel the way he was playing.

Johnny Groove
04-25-2008, 05:00 PM
well, ferrer, at least you proved that Nadal is not that unbeatable on clay. :)

By showing them no matter how close you get to beating Rafa, it aint gonna happen? :cool:

Adler
04-25-2008, 05:00 PM
Hahahahaa. Outplayed by winning 6 games of 18?
That's what I was thinking about

The result of that one was Never In Doubt, but it's good for Ferrer that he's able to win 5 games in a set in Monte Carlo against Nadal

rocketassist
04-25-2008, 05:00 PM
Nadal doesn't have a level on clay, he is the same every match.

He didn't play shit.

Johnny Groove
04-25-2008, 05:01 PM
Never mind the blow at 5-4, 40-0, he led 3-0 and 40-15 on serve earlier on before losing four points in a row - one more good return game and he could have got a bagel the way he was playing.

Yeah but he didnt, did he :ras:

Jimnik
04-25-2008, 05:01 PM
Unbelievable the number of delusional Nadal haters here. Ferrer was never going to win this. He already did extremely well to play at such a high intensity and get a lead in the 2nd.

JediFed
04-25-2008, 05:01 PM
Ugh, horrible choke by Ferrer.

Triple SP followed with a DF? That's classic choke.

Loremaster
04-25-2008, 05:01 PM
well, ferrer, at least you proved that Nadal is not that unbeatable on clay. :)

that'a a joke ??
Federer, Davydenko, Coria, Mathieu, Hewitt, Puerta also stretched Rafa to the limits and what ??
Ferrer played one bad game in which Nadal always forced him to play one more ball, you can play high risk tennis all the time if you are not natural attacker

finishingmove
04-25-2008, 05:01 PM
ferrer was in the zone during the 2nd set. deserved to win it , but blew it.

Herdwick
04-25-2008, 05:02 PM
Ferrer's forehand was awesome and Nadal kept hitting to it. David should have had a set.

W!MBLEDON
04-25-2008, 05:02 PM
ferrer was never going to win the match...

but the second set?

:unsure:

Kuhne
04-25-2008, 05:02 PM
Im not trying to be an ass, I like Rafa and I hope he wins many more clay events (just leave one FO for Roger if you can, maybe he'll let you win wimbledon :) but I just hate it when they win because the opponent MASSIVELY chokes like now. I was also pissed with Fed vs Hidalgo, I openly said Roger desserved to lose that match. Somehow this seems worst though. even if roger was 1-5 with hidalgo, roger tried and tried some more and ended up outplaying hidalgo. This Pics choke was retarded as he clearly is an opponent who can beat nadal on any given day

maxxo
04-25-2008, 05:02 PM
ferrer was ultra agressive, hitting around 20 winners in the second set, but still it wasn't enough to even take a set. rafa is an animal.

arm
04-25-2008, 05:02 PM
By showing them no matter how close you get to beating Rafa, it aint gonna happen? :cool:

:haha::haha: Like Rafa broke Ferrer 3 times in the second set mostly beacause of winners! They were all UE from Ferrer. Nadal was lucky.

HeretiC
04-25-2008, 05:02 PM
well, ferrer, at least you proved that Nadal is not that unbeatable on clay. :)

No one is unbeatable, that second set had Pic's name all over it, but taking the set from Rafa and winning a match against him on clay are 2 different things.

Beforehand
04-25-2008, 05:02 PM
Never in doubt :rolls: :rolls: :rolls:
What should we have said?

arm
04-25-2008, 05:03 PM
Im not trying to be an ass, I like Rafa and I hope he wins many more clay events (just leave one FO for Roger if you can, maybe he'll let you win wimbledon :) but I just hate it when they win because the opponent MASSIVELY chokes like now. I was also pissed with Fed vs Hidalgo, I openly said Roger desserved to lose that match. Somehow this seems worst though. even if roger was 1-5 with hidalgo, roger tried and tried some more and ended up outplaying hidalgo. This Pics choke was retarded as he clearly is an opponent who can beat nadal on any given day

Blaze.. learn something with Kuhne. he also is a Nadal's fan. ;)

InfiniteSadness
04-25-2008, 05:03 PM
What a choke from Ferrer!! Ridiculous! :mad:

Johnny Groove
04-25-2008, 05:03 PM
ferrer was in the zone during the 2nd set. deserved to win it , but blew it.

In order to beat Nadal on clay, you have to be as insane as Ferrer was in that second set, but be able to close it out and keep it up the whole match as well, something Pics just didn't do :shrug:

Loremaster
04-25-2008, 05:04 PM
Yeah Ferrer won almost 20 points less whole match gave it a break he wasn't going to win

Art&Soul
04-25-2008, 05:04 PM
Yeap i think Pics should win the second set

hra87
04-25-2008, 05:04 PM
:haha::haha: Like Rafa broke Ferrer 3 times in the second set mostly beacause of winners! They were all UE from Ferrer. Nadal was lucky.

Ferrer started playing really aggressive, add that to Rafa returning very well = unforced error.

This isn't grass...

sammy01
04-25-2008, 05:04 PM
now that was almost laughable, pics just imploded. he just choked away that 2nd set. all rafa fans will go amazing fight buy nadal, but seriously all he did was put the ball in court and let pics brain fart at the end of the 2nd set.

well done nadal i think.

Kuhne
04-25-2008, 05:05 PM
yeah.. in other words, not choking

Johnny Groove
04-25-2008, 05:05 PM
:haha::haha: Like Rafa broke Ferrer 3 times in the second set mostly beacause of winners! They were all UE from Ferrer. Nadal was lucky.

They were errors because Nadal made him hit a million winners to win each point

Blaze.. learn something with Kuhne. he also is a Nadal's fan. ;)

You dont win a set 5-4, 40-0, you win it 6-4.

Commander Data
04-25-2008, 05:05 PM
Nadal on clay is a force of nature. Just fantastic to watch....

l_mac
04-25-2008, 05:05 PM
ferrer was in the zone during the 2nd set. deserved to win it , but blew it.

Yes, he played great. He probably shouldn't have let himself get so wound up by things. He was poor when it counted, and Rafa was able to step up. Rafa's get then winner on MP were :worship: though.

But Rafa played poorly in the 2nd set, lots of short balls. Ferrer was awful in the 1st set.

:worship: to Adam for predicting 7-5 for Rafa. (:secret: vcash, please)

Adler
04-25-2008, 05:06 PM
Ferrer started playing really aggressive, add that to Rafa returning very well = unforced error.

This isn't grass...
Ferrer would've eaten two bagels on grass :)

maxxo
04-25-2008, 05:06 PM
In order to beat Nadal on clay, you have to be as insane as Ferrer was in that second set, but be able to close it out and keep it up the whole match as well, something Pics just didn't do :shrug:

that's about it. but i don't think that anyone can do it. especially in a five set match.

Nathaliia
04-25-2008, 05:06 PM
well, ferrer, at least you proved that Nadal is not that unbeatable on clay. :)
Apparently Pics lost in straight sets, so it doesn't prove what you wrote :p

tennizen
04-25-2008, 05:06 PM
Ok just to refresh: Nadal Ferrer played in Barcelona last year and the scoreline was the same 75 61. I don't think Nadal came from two breaks down in that match in the first set but I remember it being very tight. So its expected that Ferrer would trouble Nadal atleast for the better part of a set.

Johnny Groove
04-25-2008, 05:07 PM
If Pics won the second, Nadal would have won 6-2 in the 3rd

SwiSha
04-25-2008, 05:08 PM
i like Nadal and Ferru, so there is no hate going on here

but to say Nadal was never losing this is a ridiculous statement

Snowwy
04-25-2008, 05:08 PM
Nadal was never in trouble..

JediFed
04-25-2008, 05:08 PM
Unbelievable the number of delusional Nadal haters here. Ferrer was never going to win this. He already did extremely well to play at such a high intensity and get a lead in the 2nd.


I hope Rafa continues to let opponents get to triple set point, just so he can show off his SPAARRTTAAANN nature. :rolleyes:

Snoo Foo
04-25-2008, 05:08 PM
Pics :sad::confused:

:mad::o

l_mac
04-25-2008, 05:08 PM
Im not trying to be an ass, I like Rafa and I hope he wins many more clay events (just leave one FO for Roger if you can, maybe he'll let you win wimbledon :) but I just hate it when they win because the opponent MASSIVELY chokes like now. I was also pissed with Fed vs Hidalgo, I openly said Roger desserved to lose that match. Somehow this seems worst though. even if roger was 1-5 with hidalgo, roger tried and tried some more and ended up outplaying hidalgo. This Pics choke was retarded as he clearly is an opponent who can beat nadal on any given day

Since when are you a Nadal fan? :confused: Some people have been reading this forum for more than 3 months :hug:

l_mac
04-25-2008, 05:09 PM
Pics :sad::confused:

:mad::o

I thought you liked Rafa too :sad::confused:

:lol:

dejosav
04-25-2008, 05:09 PM
Average Rafa still won in straights. Congrats on new title, even a 100% Davy will find a way to lose just like Ferrer lost second set today. Another boring clay season ahead...

Blondie1985
04-25-2008, 05:10 PM
the moonballer is luck

finishingmove
04-25-2008, 05:10 PM
fedtards, leave this thread -> go watch the master at work. (sam querrey)

l_mac
04-25-2008, 05:10 PM
now that was almost laughable, pics just imploded. he just choked away that 2nd set. all rafa fans will go amazing fight buy nadal, but seriously all he did was put the ball in court and let pics brain fart at the end of the 2nd set.

well done nadal i think.

:haha:

HeiwaDream
04-25-2008, 05:10 PM
Well done, Rafa.

You have the Force on clay!

Art&Soul
04-25-2008, 05:11 PM
David, you should win the second set and make the match more interesting :o

Johnny Groove
04-25-2008, 05:11 PM
i like Nadal and Ferru, so there is no hate going on here

but to say Nadal was never losing this is a ridiculous statement

Why is it a ridiculous statement? Even the gamblers knew Ferrer wasn't winning, even with all that jinx bullshit you guys spew in there.

"2 break points Ferrer, no doubt he will blow them both" etc. etc.

selyoink
04-25-2008, 05:12 PM
Epic second set choke from Pics. He wouldn't have won the third set in all likelihood but still should've gotten there. Choked serving out the set, in the next game after having multiple break points and in the final game.

^Sue^
04-25-2008, 05:12 PM
Ferrer frustrated all the way which leads to his defeat, not the match that i wanna watch....

raven gypsy
04-25-2008, 05:13 PM
Well I'm in shock, as I didn't see Rafa coming back from 2 breaks down to win that second set.

Ferrer is a worthy, dangerous opponent. He's not ranked 5 for nothing. His forehand was very lethal, but he tossed in too many UEs when it counted.

Very tense match, I like both players.
But I'm very happy that the king of clay is alive to play another day!

Less heart attacks, please Rafa!
Why does he always have to do it the hard way :lol:

tennizen
04-25-2008, 05:14 PM
It's stupid to say Nadal was never losing this. There's always a chance he would lose and there was a huuuuuge possibility of losing the second set. He didn't and whether Ferrer choked or Nadal made him is irrelevant post match. However in Fed's case its funny because the opponent is the great Hidalgo:rolls:

SwiSha
04-25-2008, 05:16 PM
Why is it a ridiculous statement? Even the gamblers knew Ferrer wasn't winning, even with all that jinx bullshit you guys spew in there.

"2 break points Ferrer, no doubt he will blow them both" etc. etc.

i dont care about the gambling talk this has noting to do with this

Ferrers fh especially inside out was beating the shit out of rafa in the 2nd set, he was up 2 breaks and had 3 sps, unfortunately for him he made really poor decisions when it mattered the most, but to say he was never losing this NEVER is ridiculous because at times nadal looked clueless on the court

i thought rafa was in trouble the key was if Ferru could limit his silly mistakes

dont be delussional this was not a granted win and to use never is simply wrong

Lleyton_
04-25-2008, 05:16 PM
Nadal was never in trouble..

If 4-5 0-40 is not a problem, I don't know what is.

cmorais24
04-25-2008, 05:19 PM
6-1, 7-5, but..

his clay dominance will be over this year...

Djokovic has his chances, Federer and Davydenko also...


Ferrer outplayed Rafa today, let's be honest guys...


I really think Nadal is too strong for those guys yet...he played a bad second set, but the first one was awesome! Good effort by Ferrer, but Nadal was the best one today.

Jimnik
04-25-2008, 05:20 PM
Ferrer outplayed Nadal? Fascinating conclusion, and I'd really like to know the path of thought that led to it.

Does the Parallel Universe theory apply to MTF logic too? There are some things in this world that just cannot be explained any other way.

Jimnik
04-25-2008, 05:22 PM
Hahahahaa. Outplayed by winning 6 games of 18?
6 of 19 actually.

It is a funny thread.

StevoTG
04-25-2008, 05:25 PM
Rafa wasn't as ruthless as he could have been. In some rallies he just gave up hitting to Ferrers backhand and went into his forehand, I don't know why but he won anyway.

Tough loss for David though.

HeiwaDream
04-25-2008, 05:26 PM
Nadal 13 , Ferrer 6.

Ferrer has well played, I give it to you but he has only outplayed Nadal on some games. Nadal wins all the others.

spriwi
04-25-2008, 05:29 PM
rafa :yeah: did so well to hung on there in the 2nd (also a choke from ferrer;) )

ferrer, really well played, that's the strategy to implement if you want to beat rafa on claycourt. still, i don't believe there is a player who can keep playing so agressively and not make mass errors. which eventually made david lose...

rafa show the fixer who is the BOSS tomorrow ;)

Andre'sNo1Fan
04-25-2008, 05:29 PM
:haha: at all the Nadal haters, I see you're still at it. Just accept Rafa is too good on clay, rather than looking for excuses each and every time he wins.

Adler
04-25-2008, 05:29 PM
Federer was outplayed by Ferrero last year in Wimbledon QF, cause he lost a set

l_mac
04-25-2008, 05:31 PM
Nadal's level dropped a lot in the 2nd set. He started hitting stupid, short balls. Ferrer stopped hitting :retard: errors and was able to hit :worship: winners off the mid court balls :shrug: Still wasn't enough.

This isn't the first time Nadal wins a match MTF thinks he was "outplayed" in. And it won't be the last.

SwiSha
04-25-2008, 05:32 PM
nadal should beat the fixxer 2morrow

DDrago2
04-25-2008, 05:34 PM
The weapon that always works for Nadal is, make the atmosphere on the court tense - win or lose situation - and since Nadal has an advantage in such situations after the kind of training he was through with hin uncle he is likely to take the point. It's a psychological trick that he did again today to great effect (including the decisive match-point on Ferrer's serve)

Shabazza
04-25-2008, 05:34 PM
:haha: at all the Nadal haters, I see you're still at it. Just accept Rafa is too good on clay, rather than looking for excuses each and every time he wins.

Anyone who saw the match and don't call it a choke from Ferrer is not worth any serious discussion. But then again, you proved that long before.:worship:

Beat
04-25-2008, 05:36 PM
david ... :sad:

l_mac
04-25-2008, 05:40 PM
The weapon that always works for Nadal is, make the atmosphere on the court tense - win or lose situation - and since Nadal has an advantage in such situations after the kind of training he was through with hin uncle he is likely to take the point. It's a psychological trick that he did again today to great effect (including the decisive match-point on Ferrer's serve)
:spit: :spit:
Anyone who saw the match and don't call it a choke from Ferrer is not worth any serious discussion. But then again, you proved that long before.:worship:

:zzz: It's not like Ferrer was serving for the match. It was only for the 2nd set, after he'd been pounded in the 1st.

Good on Rafa for not just letting the set slip away.

I'm the worst Rafa fan ever for thinking he will lose every match, but even I didn't think he would lose if Ferrer had managed to win the 2nd set.

RedFury
04-25-2008, 05:41 PM
well, ferrer, at least you proved that Nadal is not that unbeatable on clay. :)

And he did that, exactly how? By losing and taking Rafa's record to 97-1 on clay over the past THREE years? :rolleyes:

ReturnWinner
04-25-2008, 05:43 PM
of course Nadal did put great pressure on Ferrer in the second set, but anyway this was a choke. Ferrer was leading 30 and serving 40 15 then 54 and serving 40 0 then had two bps in the next game and in deuce he missed an easy overhead then in the next game he was serving 40 15 and finished losing 75 lol

GlennMirnyi
04-25-2008, 05:48 PM
Hahahahaa. Outplayed by winning 6 games of 18?

Well, your idol was gettin' punched by Nadal when he gave up and he said he had the match "under control"... :lol: :rolleyes:

HeretiC
04-25-2008, 05:49 PM
Ain't Karma a bitch ?! Pics won twice in Valencia (Verdasco and Almagro) thanks to their choking. Now it was his turn.:devil:

*bunny*
04-25-2008, 05:53 PM
Wow what a match it was! :eek:
Well done Rafa for coming back from two breaks down, :D
and superb fight from David! :hug:

Merton
04-25-2008, 05:56 PM
Too bad that Ferru couldn't close out the 2nd set, it would make for an entertaining 3rd set even though I have little doubt that Nadal would win at the end. If I am not mistaken, David had 19 winners from the ground in the 2nd set, that is an insane number against Nadal.

Shabazza
04-25-2008, 05:56 PM
:spit: :spit:


:zzz: It's not like Ferrer was serving for the match. It was only for the 2nd set, after he'd been pounded in the 1st.

Good on Rafa for not just letting the set slip away.

I'm the worst Rafa fan ever for thinking he will lose every match, but even I didn't think he would lose if Ferrer had managed to win the 2nd set.

I was purly talking about the 2nd set, not the match. You don't just choke on MPs.
I wanted to see a 3rd set, even though I knew Ferrer would've lost that 3rd set with a +90% chance. Still, I wanted to see if he can push Nadal in a 3rd and how Nadal would respond being pushed on clay to 3 sets for the first time, that's all.
But you aren't allowed to call a massive comback from Nadal a choke from the other player even if it's true. I forgot that, sorry, but lesson learned. I'll behave accordingly the next time. :o

l_mac
04-25-2008, 05:58 PM
I was purly talking about the 2nd set, not the match. You don't just choke on MPs.
I wanted to see a 3rd set, even though I knew Ferrer would've lost that 3rd set with a +90% chance. Still, I wanted to see if he can push Nadal in a 3rd and how Nadal would respond being pushed on clay to 3 sets for the first time, that's all.
But you aren't allowed to call a massive comback from Nadal a choke from the other player even if it's true. I forgot that, sorry, but lesson learned. I'll behave accordingly the next time. :o

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Shabazza
04-25-2008, 06:08 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha:

And what's so funny about that. Ah, I forgot again, Nadal isn't a human being, he's a beast on a clay court and can't get tense or irritated. Mea culpa.

adee-gee
04-25-2008, 06:17 PM
I do hope the people who complained about Hidalgo's choking on Wednesday will call that as they saw it.
Yes, though I'll maintain the RRH's was a lot worse. Ferrer was only on the verge of taking the set, Nadal would still have been firm favourite to win the match. Hidalgo on the other hand had 5-1 in the final set and led 30-15 twice when he served for the match.
Great second set from Ferrer:yeah:, still not enough to take a set from Nadal. Great play from Nadal at times, he was too passive at times too though. The match still shows why Nadal is by far the best player on clay at the moment.
Well said.
Nadal doesn't have a level on clay, he is the same every match.
Absolute nonsense.
Blaze.. learn something with Kuhne. he also is a Nadal's fan. ;)
:spit:
i like Nadal and Ferru, so there is no hate going on here

but to say Nadal was never losing this is a ridiculous statement
True.

Snoo Foo
04-25-2008, 06:19 PM
I thought you liked Rafa too :sad::confused:

:lol:

I love him mightily but Ferru is my badger, it makes me :sad::confused: to see him lose 5 pts in a row serving for the set. :mad::o

BIGMARAT
04-25-2008, 06:23 PM
How can you outplayed someone and not win it?

Mansave_75
04-25-2008, 06:26 PM
Well done Rafa! Now it's your time to avenge Davidenko!!!

Clara Bow
04-25-2008, 06:37 PM
And what's so funny about that. Ah, I forgot again, Nadal isn't a human being, he's a beast on a clay court and can't get tense or irritated. Mea culpa.

I don't think she was laughing at that. It think she was laughing because Nadal has been pushed to three sets in a best of three before. :)

Okonsky
04-25-2008, 06:49 PM
I didn't watch. Can someone tells me if this is Rafa's exellent game or bad Ferrer?

Foxy
04-25-2008, 07:16 PM
Rafa haters, nobody can play a whole match the way Ferrer played most of the second set. It is quite normal to produce errors trying to hit winners as fast as you can as Ferrer did. It is clay not hard court. Your winners should have more power and more control on them. That's difficult to do repeatedly especially against Nadal. Ferrer will have more chances in Barcelona when Rafa will begin to tire out though.

RagingLamb
04-25-2008, 07:37 PM
Nadal's shots were not very deep (many hit the service line), not a lot of angle either. Ferrer was nervous in the first, and gave it away near the end in the second.

I hope Nadal plays better tomorrow.

LinkMage
04-25-2008, 07:39 PM
I nominate Ferrer for the biggest choking performance of the year. He was 40-15 to go up 4-0, but got broken. He then was 40-0 at 5-4 and got broken again. The next game he had 2 BPs at 15-40, but blew them. And if all that was not enough, he was 40-15 in the last game but got broken once again to lose the match.

:o

spriwi
04-25-2008, 07:48 PM
I didn't watch. Can someone tells me if this is Rafa's exellent game or bad Ferrer?

can't you read what everyone has written here? :confused:

rafa played his normal clay get-to-every-shot game.

ferrer totally sucked in the 1st set and from 5-4 40-0 in the second. apart from that he played some awesome forehand winners from the baseline.

RagingLamb
04-25-2008, 07:58 PM
How can you outplayed someone and not win it?

it's magic.

On a serious note, Rafa was outplayed for the first few games of the second set, and he played like sh*t.

He played o.k. during the first, but Ferrer sucked big time during the first set. I hope Rafa raises his game and hits his shots a little deeper.

thrust
04-25-2008, 08:02 PM
Nadal won, accept the reality!

morningglory
04-25-2008, 08:04 PM
:lol: when it comes to a passive pusher like Nadull he can still win matches while being outplayed in the rallies (since UE's count too you know, tennis isn't figure skating or gymnastics... there are no artistic points for winners) :lol:

Sunset of Age
04-25-2008, 08:32 PM
I nominate Ferrer for the biggest choking performance of the year. He was 40-15 to go up 4-0, but got broken. He then was 40-0 at 5-4 and got broken again. The next game he had 2 BPs at 15-40, but blew them. And if all that was not enough, he was 40-15 in the last game but got broken once again to lose the match.

:o

I thought that title already belonged to Ramirez-Hidalgo. :angel:

Nah, it's the same old story - one player drops his level and starts making :retard: errors on big points, while the other one manages to get in his groove and take advantage of his opponent's brainfarting. It's always the combination of the two factors together.

Kudos Rafa, and thanks for the cash! Now trash Denko tomorrow, okay? :hug:

Ferrer - :mad:

gmak
04-25-2008, 08:43 PM
David :sad: :mad:
soooo many chances to win that set :help:

Shabazza
04-25-2008, 09:10 PM
I don't think she was laughing at that. It think she was laughing because Nadal has been pushed to three sets in a best of three before. :)

I was talking about this clay season. I thought that was obvious.

Chloe le Bopper
04-25-2008, 09:12 PM
1ST SERVE %
Ferrer 68%
Nadal 73%

ACES
Ferrer 0
Nadal 0

DOUBLE FAULTS
Ferrer 2
Nadal 1

1ST SERVE POINTS WON
Ferrer 52%
Nadal 68%

2ND SERVE POINTS WON
Ferrer 35%
Nadal 50%

WINNERS
Ferrer 22
Nadal 12

UNFORCED ERRORS
Ferrer 39
Nadal 13

BREAK POINTS WON
Ferrer 2/4
Nadal 6/9

TOTAL POINTS WON
Ferrer 53
Nadal 72


The stats clearly declare Ferrer as the winner. I suspect ATP shenanigans.

Tommy fan
04-25-2008, 09:16 PM
Nice choke Ferrer :weirdo: :weirdo:

Chloe le Bopper
04-25-2008, 09:18 PM
:lol: when it comes to a passive pusher like Nadull he can still win matches while being outplayed in the rallies (since UE's count too you know, tennis isn't figure skating or gymnastics... there are no artistic points for winners) :lol:

"Being outplayed in the rallies" implies that the player in question is losing most of the rallies. At least, that's presuming that your definition of "outplaying" takes into consideration the very purpose of the rally: to win the point. So, are you telling us that Nadal won this match in spite of the fact that he lost most of the rallies? Good thing he had that monster serve to fall back on! Oh, wait.

gnaz
04-25-2008, 10:12 PM
Juiced Ferrer couldn't beat Rafa on clay, duh! THIS IS NOT HC. :wavey:

aramis
04-25-2008, 11:23 PM
So Ferrer "proved" that Nadal is beatable on clay by LOSING to him 1-6 5-7? Interesting logic there.

dorkino
04-25-2008, 11:34 PM
Ferrer played well in the second set. Not to mention the million inside outs he fired Rafael's forehand with. Don't know if Rafa even realized how frequent it was done to him.Apart from this, Ferrer couldn't keep his nerves when it really mattered and his UEs almostly handed the second set to his friend Rafa who luckily held his nerves this time.

Rafael, keep going with the planless,backhandless, short shots in the middle of the court and u'll get punished big time buddy.

NYCtennisfan
04-26-2008, 12:39 AM
I was surprised by the fact that Ferrer was tough in the 2nd set but not the first. I also didn't think Ferrer would have the set on his racket and only a horrible choke would prevent him from losing it.

You don't see too many players get blown away in the first set on clay and then come back to own the 2nd set against Nadal. Nadal would've still won, but Ferrer taking a set would've been interesting.

ChinoRios4Ever
04-26-2008, 12:47 AM
well done Rafa

Clay Death
04-26-2008, 12:49 AM
Ferrer played well in the second set. Not to mention the million inside outs he fired Rafael's forehand with. Don't know if Rafa even realized how frequent it was done to him.Apart from this, Ferrer couldn't keep his nerves when it really mattered and his UEs almostly handed the second set to his friend Rafa who luckily held his nerves this time.

Rafael, keep going with the planless,backhandless, short shots in the middle of the court and u'll get punished big time buddy.


Nadal will have to step it up big time tomorrow because the russian coward takes the ball even earlier than Ferru does and will play well inside the baseline.

GuiroNl
04-26-2008, 01:08 AM
The "Russian Coward" (I don't understand this nickname btw) could not even handle Poor Man's Nadal (Andreev), so what's he going to do against Nadal.

aurora2006
04-26-2008, 03:44 AM
And now...revenge!:devil:
VAMOSSSS!:)