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HeretiC
04-25-2008, 01:51 PM
federer at his best

LinkMage
04-25-2008, 01:51 PM
Finally a good match from Roger again.

Some amazing baseline rallies in this match. Huge forehand winners by Fed, and huge BH winners by Nalby.


Some stats:
Fed Nalby
Winners: 43 27
UEs: 30 40
BP conversion: 5/5:eek: 2/5

sykotique
04-25-2008, 01:51 PM
Best match of the tournament thus far, if I might be allowed to say so. Quality of play was exceptional from both players, especially in the first and third sets. Nalbandian's level dipped ever so slightly in the second, his forehand began to spray a bit and that was enough for Federer to take advantage. Aggressive clay court tennis from two very versatile all court players. Nalbandian's backhand was on fire, which is to be expected; Federer's was almost equal to the task, which is a surprise. Both served excellently. Federer converted breakpoints efficiently, a good sign for him.

I don't think I've ever seen Federer move better on clay and also, his tactics were spot on and he stuck with them, even after losing a tough first set. It seems the work with Higueras might actually be paying off.

Kuhne
04-25-2008, 01:51 PM
this was all heart by fed cos clearly his conditioning is not good.

the better tennis player won.

Chiseller
04-25-2008, 01:52 PM
it may take him 3 sets but he is taking out Fed. you can make book on it.

:haha:

FedererBulgaria
04-25-2008, 01:52 PM
Amazing Fed!:worship:What a match!:worship:

Renaud
04-25-2008, 01:52 PM
adfgasdf
Are you sure?
I think it is more "jjfrgjlleopl" :sad:

Skyward
04-25-2008, 01:52 PM
The title :haha:

scoobs
04-25-2008, 01:52 PM
That was Roger Federer at last.

End of April but he FINALLY showed up.

Sensational from him and he wore Nalbandian out.

*Jean*
04-25-2008, 01:52 PM
David :o :help:

RogerFan82
04-25-2008, 01:53 PM
Gr8 win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! woohooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stensland
04-25-2008, 01:53 PM
good match, interesting to see roger's slices being finally crisp again, played with lots of pace. deserved win by federer.

now kill djokovic! :)

Tabledott
04-25-2008, 01:53 PM
Come on Roger

SerenaFederer
04-25-2008, 01:53 PM
not his absolute best but it was a really good match...

Kolya
04-25-2008, 01:53 PM
Hmm...

Chiseller
04-25-2008, 01:53 PM
great great play by Federer, impressive!

Beforehand
04-25-2008, 01:53 PM
5/5 on break points? Holy fuck.

Roger...5/5...

Daniel
04-25-2008, 01:54 PM
:yeah:

mikkemus23
04-25-2008, 01:54 PM
that was amazing!
played great in first set also, then got better and better, unlike david no-GS nalbandian....

HeretiC
04-25-2008, 01:54 PM
Are you sure?
I think it is more "jjfrgjlleopl" :sad:

It was actually like !@#$!@#$ to me but I misspelled it. ;)

Caio_Brasil
04-25-2008, 01:54 PM
Great match :yeah: sadly David lost, but great match :)

RogerFan82
04-25-2008, 01:54 PM
Fed - 43 Winners / 30 UE
Dave - 27 Winners/ 40 UE

DDrago2
04-25-2008, 01:54 PM
What did I tell before, don't ever make fun of RF

stable unit
04-25-2008, 01:54 PM
I think it's clear he didnt invest himself fully into the early part of the season, what with Olympics to worry about this year and him getting older. He has timed this run perfectly i think

Monofed is dead

prima donna
04-25-2008, 01:54 PM
Nice win, let's build on this performance.

BlueSwan
04-25-2008, 01:55 PM
Oh yessssss!!! I had quite a bit of money on Fat Dave, but I don't care. I so wanted this win for Roger!

Adler
04-25-2008, 01:55 PM
STATS, folks

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1682/nowyacdsee6bmpimagesi0.jpg

Herdwick
04-25-2008, 01:55 PM
Fabulous to watch - thank you so much to both players and am delighted for Federer - that was just what he needed.

Kworb
04-25-2008, 01:55 PM
Good enough to win! Keep going Roger, find your old level!

Art&Soul
04-25-2008, 01:55 PM
:woohoo::woohoo: ROGI boy, you rock today NINJA. MonoFed defeats fit DAVE :devil::worship::worship:

Rogiman
04-25-2008, 01:55 PM
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

This has exceeded anything I had expected from this tournament, and I am totally at peace with being bitchslapped in the next round! :D

Truely believed he would lose that...

stable unit
04-25-2008, 01:55 PM
I think it's clear he didnt invest himself fully into the early part of the season, what with Olympics to worry about this year and him getting older. He has timed this run perfectly i think..................................

Monofed is dead

ReturnWinner
04-25-2008, 01:55 PM
with this win the head to head is 17-0 for federer, and federer is not unfit tool, i am tired of this bullshit about his mono, he ran like a rabbit. he himself said he is 100% healthy.

BlueSwan
04-25-2008, 01:55 PM
I hope Roger has something left in the tank for Djokovic...

Corey Feldman
04-25-2008, 01:56 PM
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Daniel
04-25-2008, 01:56 PM
:bigclap:

Jens
04-25-2008, 01:56 PM
Yes! Great win Roger! :bigclap:

adee-gee
04-25-2008, 01:56 PM
Surprising result, credit to MonoFed I didn't expect it.

Hope he can reach the final now :D

finishingmove
04-25-2008, 01:57 PM
nalbandian blew it... djokovic wont

Olisadebe
04-25-2008, 01:57 PM
the King is here :bounce: Roger :drive:

raven gypsy
04-25-2008, 01:57 PM
This wasn't what I was expecting..
Some really amazing shots from these two class players.
Fun to watch.
Just a little diappointing that the third set couldn't have gone the distance.

HeretiC
04-25-2008, 01:57 PM
It was the best first set I've seen in a while by a quality. The rest of it that Fed continued in same rhythm and Dave tanked the second set to preserve energy, but he never get into rhythm again.

m9m9m9m9m9
04-25-2008, 01:57 PM
Can Sam the man pull a Marty Fish and dispatch Fed in straight sets? :confused:

DDrago2
04-25-2008, 01:58 PM
I hope Roger has something left in the tank for Djokovic...

That will definitely be the toughest one - as Budha said, it's always the biggest challenge beating youself

Jimnik
04-25-2008, 01:58 PM
Expected result.

ReturnWinner
04-25-2008, 01:58 PM
Federer had his best match of the year,his fh and movement were at his absolute best, Nalbandian played well, the score is a little deceiving,he lost some of accuracy on his shots which is expected considering the intensity of the match and his kind of game, he had to play everything to the lines.

Rogiman
04-25-2008, 01:58 PM
Can't contain myself... I can't remember the last time I was so happy about a tennis score...

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Art&Soul
04-25-2008, 01:58 PM
:rocker::banana: Yeah Yeah the NINJA ROGI is back and ready to kick Faker ass :banana::banana:

SerenaFederer
04-25-2008, 01:59 PM
I hope Roger has something left in the tank for Djokovic...

what are you talking about...sam is winning :ras:

Duncan
04-25-2008, 01:59 PM
Roger :rocker2:

Now take the title!

Kuhne
04-25-2008, 01:59 PM
with this win the head to head is 17-0 for federer, and federer is not unfit tool, i am tired of this bullshit about his mono, he ran like a rabbit. he himself said he is 100% healthy.

fed played at 10%

HeretiC
04-25-2008, 01:59 PM
nalbandian blew it... djokovic wont

If he manages to play like today he will beat Djokovic too.

Alex999
04-25-2008, 01:59 PM
Great win. Federer was awesome. Congrats to all of his fans. I'm sure Escude feels better today :).

FNT
04-25-2008, 02:00 PM
He is not back yet, but he is coming back for sure. At last it's clear he has a great shot of defending Wimby this year.

HNCS
04-25-2008, 02:00 PM
I think it's great that Roger is just shifting gear after gear, really stepping up match after match. which is the way the to go. Roger really suprised me with the level he played today.

Both of them played a great level of tennis. With some sick shots coming from both ends of the court.

In the end I'm so happy for Roger to defeat an in form top opponent with quality and strength.

alfonsojose
04-25-2008, 02:00 PM
Nalbandian's forehand can be exposed on clay. Backhand as impressive as usual. And kudos to Jes.. :ignore: SweatyFed :yeah:

ShotmaKer
04-25-2008, 02:00 PM
Great match from roger, against all odds!!! Come on, time to take Djoko down!!

Billabong
04-25-2008, 02:01 PM
So that was Rogi's best match in 2008 so far:D??? OMG I wanna see that one, well done Rogi:woohoo:!!!!! Keep it up man:yeah:!!!

DDrago2
04-25-2008, 02:01 PM
He is not back yet, but he is coming back for sure. At last it's clear he has a great shot of defending Wimby this year.

But he will lose to Andy Murray there

FedFan_2007
04-25-2008, 02:01 PM
This FedMug 2.0 would easily beat Mardy Fish now.

BIGMARAT
04-25-2008, 02:02 PM
Nalby did'nt serve well and Fed played well.

Acer
04-25-2008, 02:02 PM
Lesson learned: just don't write the guy off already, I've never sympathised with Federer this much before.

uNIVERSE mAN
04-25-2008, 02:02 PM
All traitors in the poll should be pistol whipped.

dragons112
04-25-2008, 02:02 PM
Who does roger have next

kobulingam
04-25-2008, 02:02 PM
with this win the head to head is 17-0 for federer, and federer is not unfit tool, i am tired of this bullshit about his mono, he ran like a rabbit. he himself said he is 100% healthy.

Today he looked very good.

But like his agent said, sometimes he wakes up and feel tired for the whole day (just on random days like that).

As long as he doesn't have any of those, he should spank Djok too.

Commander Data
04-25-2008, 02:02 PM
Yes!!! Great win! That will boost his confidence.

Now, take the Joker out! I don't care if he looses to Nadal in the Final. Just show that he still is the Nr. 2 on clay would be a huge achievement in this tournment.

ZakMcCrack
04-25-2008, 02:03 PM
Can't contain myself... I can't remember the last time I was so happy about a tennis score...

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Yeah dude, next time you better think Roger is capable of doing such things - pledge allegiance to Federer, for God's sake ;)

Art&Soul
04-25-2008, 02:03 PM
hehe where clown death? :devil:Today ROGI is the MAN :banana::banana: So happy for him and me nowwwwwwwwww:bounce::bounce:

rocketassist
04-25-2008, 02:03 PM
Fed back to his best.

Hope he beats Djerk.

krystlel
04-25-2008, 02:04 PM
Great match, loved the point construction and shotmaking from both players.

I can't be that disappointed with how Nalbandian played. He played an amazing first set. His forehand started to leak more errors in the second and third sets which cost him, although that is his usual weakness so not exactly unexpected and he didn't serve as well. He was striking his backhand so so well though.

I really did not expect Federer to leak as few errors as he did especially on the forehand and he played a great match tactically and executed it well of course.

Adler
04-25-2008, 02:05 PM
Nalbadian played shit? Honestly, some of you should consider visiting a doctor

BlakeJamitis
04-25-2008, 02:06 PM
Go Fed!!! He's gettin' that swagger back ... now no let down. Finish what you started last week against Davydenko

ShotmaKer
04-25-2008, 02:06 PM
Fed was well focussed, that's very great to see him playing like that :):):worship:

Tchovs
04-25-2008, 02:06 PM
http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/HEARTS%7E2.GIF

I LLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE THIS BOY!

GO, ROGER, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

RogandyFan
04-25-2008, 02:07 PM
So the curse worked. It is good that i contributed to it. Now let it work once more please in the last QF please :devil: :devil: :devil:

yomike
04-25-2008, 02:07 PM
David got to overconfident he even let Fed serve first. Excellent first set nonetheless.

timafi
04-25-2008, 02:07 PM
Roger sloppy service game in the end of the 1st set.:banghead::smash::smash::smash:You should have taken that fat punk down in straight sets but you wanted to go the distance with him;why I don't know:unsure:
you played so much better in the 2nd and especially 3th set:eek:.Still not 100% yet but you're getting there:yeah:
Roger:hatoff:

jasmin
04-25-2008, 02:07 PM
Well it's good that 'not the best' from Roger is still good enough against a player like Nalbanian...on clay. I really didn't think Roger was himself yet to take Nalbanian out but there was always hope. I'm just very happy for Federer. He needed this win against such a player especially on clay.

Nathaliia
04-25-2008, 02:08 PM
Awwww.... Tough to hear.

Anyway, this was predictable judging from the number of gamblers backing Nalbandian. Just too many of them ;).

prima donna
04-25-2008, 02:08 PM
Nice to see how the tide is beginning to turn (completely unexpected), particularly following a rather impressive victory on Roger's part. Such goes without saying that he could easily lose his next match, as he seems to have somewhat of a Jekyll & Hyde relationship with tennis these days.

MaryX
04-25-2008, 02:09 PM
Nice match, I enjoyed it.Federer looked great ;) .

l_mac
04-25-2008, 02:10 PM
Expected.

Hope Fed kills Querrey in the semis tomorrow.

Art&Soul
04-25-2008, 02:10 PM
http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/HEARTS%7E2.GIF

I LLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE THIS BOY!

GO, ROGER, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

ROGI for the TITLE :inlove::banana::rocker2:

dragons112
04-25-2008, 02:10 PM
Who does roger have next

DDrago2
04-25-2008, 02:11 PM
David got to overconfident he even let Fed serve first. Excellent first set nonetheless.

Honestly Federer looked like a favourite to me after only a few first games of the match - he just had the game this time, despite Nalbandian managed to nick the first set

Adler
04-25-2008, 02:11 PM
So that means, that Querrey practically got the title

HNCS
04-25-2008, 02:11 PM
Nalbadian played shit? Honestly, some of you should consider visiting a doctor

i agree. i thought it was a high quality match from both. neither of them were at their best, but definitely good quality. Nalbandian's backhand was :yeah:. and roger's forehand was :yeah: (i totally remember why i fell in love with that forehand.... beauty)

but yeah as i said, very nice to see Roger improving match by match and back to winning against top opponents in a good manner!

zcess81
04-25-2008, 02:12 PM
If he manages to play like today he will beat Djokovic too.

There is a difference between playing like Fed did today and being let to play like he did today. Nalbandian did the latter, I doubt that Novak will let Fed play this kind of tennis.

Henry Chinaski
04-25-2008, 02:12 PM
Great match. The main difference was fitness. Nalbandian was just a split second slower to the ball in the 2nd part of the match and his forehand went to pieces as a result. That deuce point on Fed's serve at 2-2 in the 3rd just showed how physically immense Fed is. He won the point with some incredible defence after superb hitting from Nalbandian. I think that point broke Dave's spirit. The scoreline would suggest it anyway.

Nando_L
04-25-2008, 02:13 PM
Great! Great! Great! Great Roger!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

zcess81
04-25-2008, 02:14 PM
:rocker::banana: Yeah Yeah the NINJA ROGI is back and ready to kick Faker ass :banana::banana:

The good thing about Roger losing tomorrow is that you'll disappear from MTF for a little while and cry in your usual corner.

t0x
04-25-2008, 02:14 PM
Brilliant match. A clay court match which was practically winner after winner - very rare...

Fed played amazingly. Nalby deserves credit too, he really went for it.

Shabazza
04-25-2008, 02:14 PM
Quite happy. :D

zcess81
04-25-2008, 02:15 PM
Great win. Federer was awesome. Congrats to all of his fans. I'm sure Escude feels better today :).

I was thinking the same thing. He's been strangely absent since that beautiful Murray trashing.

jazar
04-25-2008, 02:15 PM
great confidence boast for federer going into the rest his matches on clay

juninhOH
04-25-2008, 02:16 PM
stop with this bullshit, NOW.

I'm sick of all the "still not Federer". It's Federer, he is just not as consistent as he was 2 years ago, and that's fucking normal. don't expect 80-5 seasons anymore because they will NEVER happen again. Except 65-9 then 60-10 and those kinds of seasons from now on. JesusFed and his consistency will never be back again, he still has a big shot on every major and master he takes part tho.

DDrago2
04-25-2008, 02:16 PM
The reason why Fed displayed such a great performance, was that line judges and the referee were on his side on one long ball of his in the first set

HeretiC
04-25-2008, 02:17 PM
There is a difference between playing like Fed did today and being let to play like he did today. Nalbandian did the latter, I doubt that Novak will let Fed play this kind of tennis.

Nalbandian is not a pushover and he didn't let Roger to dictate points. His FH just failed him a bit and that was enough to lose the match. He was still creating insane angles and if this match was on a lower bounce surface it would have been win in straights for Dave. But clay is a different story.

Apemant
04-25-2008, 02:18 PM
This matchup is actually incredibly interesting. Federer moves better but Nalbandian's shots are more accurate. Federer serves better, but Nalbandian returns 2nd serves better. Federer has more power on the forehand but Nalbandian's 2H BH is awesome. If they should both play to the top of their abilities it should be dead even.

Art&Soul
04-25-2008, 02:21 PM
The good thing about Roger losing tomorrow is that you'll disappear from MTF for a little while and cry in your usual corner.
hehe lets see who will cry and disappear faker boy friend :devil: I can feel your bitterness today. GO ROGELIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :devil:

miura
04-25-2008, 02:23 PM
He will defeat both Djoko and Rafa at this level and maybe take the FO if he can keep it up :D

Slasher
04-25-2008, 02:23 PM
I puked a little in my mouth when Federer won.

Bernard Black
04-25-2008, 02:24 PM
100 mugs voted Nalbandian to win in straight sets in the poll.

Always knew Federer would raise his game for this, never write him off! Just hope he can keep up this level now.

theDreamer
04-25-2008, 02:25 PM
This matchup is actually incredibly interesting. Federer moves better but Nalbandian's shots are more accurate. Federer serves better, but Nalbandian returns 2nd serves better. Federer has more power on the forehand but Nalbandian's 2H BH is awesome. If they should both play to the top of their abilities it should be dead even.

The difference is that when a player's strength is accuracy of shot making, it can come and go with
form, concentration etc.
Movement as a strength is a lot more stable as a base (difficult to lose it within a match).

I think that is probably the tie breaker btw them - especially on clay.

*Ljubica*
04-25-2008, 02:25 PM
Great match - thoroughly enjoyed it :) Good to see Roger playing as well as that again.

dragons112
04-25-2008, 02:26 PM
If roger makes the final he will have no energy how long did this match take?

yuiwer
04-25-2008, 02:28 PM
Hey, I´m looking for the people that said FatDave or "Gordo fracasado" (in spanish)
was going to win in straight sets. Many predicted a bagel :lol::lol::lol:
Help me, to find them, pleaseeeeeee!!!

Zhihong
04-25-2008, 02:28 PM
If roger makes the final he will have no energy how long did this match take?

Not that long, 2 hours 7 mins iirc.

Beforehand
04-25-2008, 02:28 PM
After the beginning of the year, I think Roger will take losing to Nadal in the final if that's what it comes down to.

I would have taken him losing to Nalbandian, as long as he played well, so he's on the way back up. He's working on it.

Rumour
04-25-2008, 02:28 PM
I hope Roger has something left in the tank for Djokovic Querrey...
FYP ;)

nalbandian blew it... djokovic wont
Not if he isn't the player across the net from Fed :devil:

Who does roger have next
A certain American clay court maestro :wavey:

Hope Fed kills Querrey in the semis tomorrow.
:yeah:

Rommella
04-25-2008, 02:28 PM
Just a little over two hours.

leng jai
04-25-2008, 02:29 PM
Federer's best win of the year by a country mile.

Beat
04-25-2008, 02:30 PM
a confidence boost for sure.

but where are all the people who had written him off already?

Fedexex
04-25-2008, 02:30 PM
you rock Roger:rocker2:

HNCS
04-25-2008, 02:30 PM
great reaction to winning the match, (thanks mark!!)

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p62/markeyesworld/rogpoint1.gif

Tennis-Engineer
04-25-2008, 02:31 PM
congrats to both players to play such a fabulous tennis.Nalbandian couldnt keep up the level he was playing in the first set and Fed's movement today was awesome.


David got to overconfident he even let Fed serve first. Excellent first set nonetheless.

Yes that was a strange decision by David.In all 3 sets Federer was the first to serve because of that mistake David did. *2-5 down is very different from *2-4 down and David couldnt return to the match both times he was 2-5 down.Anyway it was an excellent match.

Pigsarestupid
04-25-2008, 02:31 PM
This matchup is actually incredibly interesting. Federer moves better but Nalbandian's shots are more accurate. Federer serves better, but Nalbandian returns 2nd serves better. Federer has more power on the forehand but Nalbandian's 2H BH is awesome. If they should both play to the top of their abilities it should be dead even.

I think it is all very even except one detail which gives Federer a small advantage and that is Federers mental strength which is superior to Nalbandian (not to say that Nalbandian is a choker or mental midget, atleast not when he is playing Federer).

yanchr
04-25-2008, 02:31 PM
I truly didn't expect this. I truly expected Nalby to win. Now I'm so happy :woohoo: :woohoo:

Roger :worship: When almost everybody wrote you off, you showed why you are Roger!

Brilliant play from both. Nalbandian's game fell a bit in the 2nd set but still good. Roger was so tough in his own service game which almost went on to deuce in every of them in the 2nd and 3rd set. He hang in there so tough.

I loved his reaction after the match point, as if he was telling all, Roger Federer is back! I'm proud of this guy.

Now have a rest, get ready for tomorrow.

garad
04-25-2008, 02:32 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p62/markeyesworld/rognwins.jpg

You're next, Novak

W!MBLEDON
04-25-2008, 02:32 PM
stop with this bullshit, NOW.

YES DRILL SARGEANT MA'AM SIR! :eek:

nice win fed, destroy djokovic in the semis :yeah:

scoobs
04-25-2008, 02:32 PM
great reaction to winning the match, (thanks mark!!)

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p62/markeyesworld/rogpoint1.gif
Yeah, loved that. He played some stunning points to break that final time.

Who says his desire has diminished.

BodyServe
04-25-2008, 02:32 PM
this was all heart by fed cos clearly his conditioning is not good.

the better tennis player won.

The better mover on clay won.Plain and simple.

Nalbandian movement on clay court is not *that* good.His best surface is medium paced hard court although he can play well on every surface because his strokes are so good.

Toko
04-25-2008, 02:33 PM
Hey, I´m looking for the people that said FatDave or "Gordo fracasado" (in spanish)
was going to win in straight sets. Many predicted a bagel :lol::lol::lol:
Help me, to find them, pleaseeeeeee!!!

Here's one , MTF resident clown CD:


this is shaping up to be some tournament for Fat Dave. If he can figure out a way to deal with Djokovic he can be in the finals.

it may take him 3 sets but he is taking out Fed. you can make book on it.

end of the line for Fed tomorrow. Monfils is no Fat Dave.


remember one thing: clay death calls it long before it happens while you just wait until something happens and then you try to find somebody to jump on.

my0118
04-25-2008, 02:35 PM
I'm a bit of sad because David lost, but it was good stuff from Federer and David didn't play that bad.
Congrats Federer and hopefully he gets past Djokovic.

Manon
04-25-2008, 02:36 PM
Exellent.

prima donna
04-25-2008, 02:36 PM
There is a difference between playing like Fed did today and being let to play like he did today. Nalbandian did the latter, I doubt that Novak will let Fed play this kind of tennis.
Comments like these are the very ones that have occasionally come back to haunt a host of pompous zealots on this board, especially those subscribing to the ideology that winning is the only guaranteed result against a 12-time Grand Slam champion.

I'd suppose one would do it simply to make things more interesting, simply for the sake of provoking other hypersensitive fanatics -- on the other hand, such behavior could simply be an inadvertent display of imbecility...care to clarify for us ?

Branimir
04-25-2008, 02:37 PM
Excellent Roger. Nole will have to play out of his mind if he wants to beat this fighting Roger!

Dirk
04-25-2008, 02:37 PM
The better mover on clay won.Plain and simple.

Nalbandian movement on clay court is not *that* good.His best surface is medium paced hard court although he can play well on every surface because his strokes are so good.

He isn't too bad on the indoor stuff either.

CyBorg
04-25-2008, 02:38 PM
Federer is done. Oh, sorry. I'm a day late.

Ivanatis
04-25-2008, 02:38 PM
right response to the haters

well done Roger

JediFed
04-25-2008, 02:39 PM
Yeah, so glad I called this match!

I figured it would be a tight three sets. Glad to see I was wrong. :devil:

Marek.
04-25-2008, 02:39 PM
I'll take it. :p ;)

zcess81
04-25-2008, 02:40 PM
hehe lets see who will cry and disappear faker boy friend :devil: I can feel your bitterness today. GO ROGELIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :devil:

I actually wanted Roger to win today cause I think that Novak has better chance against him than Nalbandian...especially cause he's got into Roger's head. Watch Roger tomorrow make ton of his UEs. Novak plays VERY deep and takes the ball very early. We'll see how Roger's gonna cope with that. But I don't wanna jinx it...first he's gotta beat Sam :)

Art&Soul
04-25-2008, 02:41 PM
but where are all the people who had written him off already?
They are hiding now in the buzz :devil::o

anon57
04-25-2008, 02:42 PM
Very happy Federer proved me wrong, I had my doubts about him defeating Nalbandian with the way both players had played in the earlier rounds. I only saw the last part of the first set and most of the second, but from what I saw in those parts Federer was already playing better than he had in Estoril and earlier this week. Glad he was able to keep it up and win the match. Next up most likely Djokovic which will be a more difficult match.

Beforehand
04-25-2008, 02:42 PM
I actually wanted Roger to win today cause I think that Novak has better chance against him than Nalbandian...especially cause he's got into Roger's head.

By beating him once?

BodyServe
04-25-2008, 02:43 PM
He isn't too bad on the indoor stuff either.

Exactly,but i was saying that regardless of the outdoor/indoor issue.

tennizen
04-25-2008, 02:43 PM
Roger:woohoo: Thanks for winning me v-cash. Now if only you could kick Querry's ass.

rocketassist
04-25-2008, 02:43 PM
I actually wanted Roger to win today cause I think that Novak has better chance against him than Nalbandian...especially cause he's got into Roger's head. Watch Roger tomorrow make ton of his UEs. Novak plays VERY deep and takes the ball very early. We'll see how Roger's gonna cope with that. But I don't wanna jinx it...first he's gotta beat Sam :)

Federer's h 2 h suggests he hasn't. :confused:

garad
04-25-2008, 02:44 PM
Excellent Roger. Nole will have to play out of his mind if he wants to beat this fighting Roger!

:yeah:

good sportsmanship, some Nole fans around here should watch and learn.
Anyway, I have no doubt it will be Nole tomorrow, and all we can hope for is as a good match as today, can we?

As for this match, thanks for the entertainment Roger and David.

Marek.
04-25-2008, 02:44 PM
By beating him once?

He's NovaGOAT. Everyone fears him. :worship:

garad
04-25-2008, 02:45 PM
Federer is done. Oh, sorry. I'm a day late.

:worship::haha:

jasmin
04-25-2008, 02:46 PM
Some of these predications and the conviction in which they are stated is so funny.:lol:

If Roger even makes the final and still lose that would still be an accomplishment. I mean who would think he would win this tournament anyway or even get this far. It's not like the healthy Roger won last year against Nadal. Not expecting much but if he even makes the final that would be a big accomplishment imo.

zcess81
04-25-2008, 02:47 PM
The only time Roger played Novak on clay was in Monte Carlo in 2006 and he STILL lost a set (6-3 2-6 6-3) to 19 year old Novak. If Novak beats Sam, as he should, it will be a VERY GOOD MATCH tomorrow.

dylan24
04-25-2008, 02:47 PM
mtf poll wrong once again.
now look for djokovic to tank and lose against sam
as novak is afraid of getting fucked up by roger.

garad
04-25-2008, 02:47 PM
I actually wanted Roger to win today cause I think that Novak has better chance against him than Nalbandian...especially cause he's got into Roger's head. Watch Roger tomorrow make ton of his UEs. Novak plays VERY deep and takes the ball very early. We'll see how Roger's gonna cope with that. But I don't wanna jinx it...first he's gotta beat Sam :)

Really? What about Fed maintaining his points to keep Nole from that coveted nr.1 spot his mother thinks already belongs to him?

zcess81
04-25-2008, 02:48 PM
By beating him once?

Do your homework before posting, cause I'm not doing it for you.

Mr. Magassi
04-25-2008, 02:49 PM
Never mind... Novak and Fed for possible semis... Roger has a tough draw here!

garad
04-25-2008, 02:49 PM
The only time Roger played Novak on clay was in Monte Carlo in 2006 and he STILL lost a set (6-3 2-6 6-3) to 19 year old Novak. If Novak beats Sam, as he should, it will be a VERY GOOD MATCH tomorrow.

Well he lost to 18 years old Gasquet in MC. Now what do you think about Richard again?

zcess81
04-25-2008, 02:50 PM
Federer's h 2 h suggests he hasn't. :confused:

That head to head goes from when Novak was 19! It's not significant. Anyway when I say he's got to his head I didn't mean h2h, it's more about the whole war of words between the two.

Kuhne
04-25-2008, 02:51 PM
As far as skill goes, Nalbandian is a MUCH harder challenge for Roger than Djokovic ever will be. the thing is, last 3 times roger played vs Djokovic, he played like shit, I am amazed he managed to win one of those three. he shouldn't have. Djokovic is definetly on Federer's head. Nalbandian was playing really good tennis today, his backhand was spot on and overall he was bothering roger, making roger run for his life. the comentator said something funny along the lines of "Federer is playing this match as if his life depended on it"

and it's so true. he was hell bent on not leting the head to head with nalbandian change again. but this wasn't skill. federer still looked off, when he pulled the trigger he made plenty of errors, his serve wasnt as good as it could have been. yet he still went 5 for 5 on break points I think?

Either way, he won this match because of guts.

HNCS
04-25-2008, 02:51 PM
Never mind... Novak and Fed for possible semis... Roger has a tough draw here!


david ferrer is playin nadal right now, which is on the other half of the draw.

djokovic will be playing sam after nadal, they are potentially federer's SF opponents.:)

arm
04-25-2008, 02:53 PM
Both did more UE than they should have.

Well done Federe: coming back in the second and third set. :)

Beforehand
04-25-2008, 02:53 PM
Do your homework before posting, cause I'm not doing it for you.

Says the person who said Roger lost to Novak in Monte Carlo 2006?

Anyway, I know he's lost to Novak twice ever, but I mean, he beat him since the first time. So if Novak was "in his head", assumedly there'd be more than a winning streak of 1.

EDIT: Bad reading. He did lose a set. Good point (though not sure what you think it illustrates).

prima donna
04-25-2008, 02:54 PM
Do your homework before posting, cause I'm not doing it for you.
Keep digging. The hole is growing deeper by the second.

Waiting for Djokovic to actually advance to the next round would be a nice precursor for starters.

It's as if you're glutton for punishment, you wouldn't happen to be a masochist by any chance now would you ?

Betty
04-25-2008, 02:55 PM
good match :yeah: congrats fed
ciao dante:wavey:

Tommy fan
04-25-2008, 02:55 PM
David :sad: :sad:
Very good match thoguh :yeah: :)

Vamos tommorow Federer :armed:

zcess81
04-25-2008, 02:56 PM
Well he lost to 18 years old Gasquet in MC. Now what do you think about Richard again?

The difference is that Novak's improved A LOT since he last played Fed on clay at 19...that was the point I was trying to make.

prima donna
04-25-2008, 02:58 PM
good match :yeah: congrats fed
ciao dante:wavey:

Ciao Elisabetta, ho appena visto il tuo avatar, molto carino ... complimenti!

Betty
04-25-2008, 03:00 PM
Ciao Elisabetta, ho appena visto il tuo avatar, molto carino ... complimenti!

grazie :D :hug::cool:ed oggi che è festa è fuori con il papi..così io posso rilassarmi un po :devil: :lol:
ancora nessuna news per l'esame?

prima donna
04-25-2008, 03:00 PM
The difference is that Novak's improved A LOT since he last played Fed on clay at 19...that was the point I was trying to make.
Which of course means that defeating Roger should be a mere formality.

garad
04-25-2008, 03:00 PM
The difference is that Novak's improved A LOT since he last played Fed on clay at 19...that was the point I was trying to make.

Well ok, but you can never make any predictions based on single past matches. Fed has been losing sets to nobodies (not that i imply that Djok is not great) even during his best years, and his claycourt game is better than in 2005 imo.

JediFed
04-25-2008, 03:01 PM
Waiting for Djokovic to actually advance to the next round would be a nice precursor for starters.


We've already had lots of jinxes already! :devil:

Rumour
04-25-2008, 03:02 PM
but where are all the people who had written him off already?
Hopefully hiding and seething with bitterness in the same dark hole as the person who gleefully bumped the match thread from Paris where Nalby beat Fed - at around the same time as this one was taking place. That was sooo appreciated by those of us in a different timezone from the tournament who didn't have today's OOP memorized :rolleyes: I'm thrilled such tactics were justly rewarded, even though I missed a good chunk of the match because I thought it was already over and wasn't ready to go through all the inevitable tarding and trolling - so it took me a while to actually click the thread and discover it wasn't current...

At least from what I saw (most of the third set), Federer was definitely better today than against Monfils. While I hesitate to say "he's back" based on just this performance - just as I would not rush to conclude "he's finished" following his recent confounding losses or near-upsets - the way he played against his old nemesis has to be very encouraging not only to him but his fans. Physical issues aside, it appears Fed is entering a different phase of his career where wins are not so easily 'assured' against any opponent. Fitness and motivation will become even more important now, especially if he hopes to emulate Agassi and stay competitive on the tour well into his 30s.

zcess81
04-25-2008, 03:02 PM
Keep digging. The hole is growing deeper by the second.

Waiting for Djokovic to actually advance to the next round would be a nice precursor for starters.

It's as if you're glutton for punishment, you wouldn't happen to be a masochist by any chance now would you ?

Hey, if Nole loses, tough. I'll live with it. I'm not like most of the pussies around here who don't have the guts to back their player, fearing the consequences on MTF. Like some Fed fans around here (P.Antonius where are you??) who always claim that Fed will lose whenever he encounters decent opposition, but when Fed wins those kind of "fans" are the first to gloat. When you predict Fed losing you can only be right. If he loses you say "I told you so", if he wins you say "Fed is back...I knew it!"...have the guts to stick by your player when he goes through tough period instead of jumping on the bandwagon.

prima donna
04-25-2008, 03:04 PM
grazie :D :hug::cool:ed oggi che è festa è fuori con il papi..così io posso rilassarmi un po :devil: :lol:
ancora nessuna news per l'esame?

purtroppo no, appena saprò notizie più certe, ti scriverò :) ;)

zcess81
04-25-2008, 03:04 PM
Which of course means that defeating Roger should be a mere formality.

No, I never said that. It'll be a very tight match. But you were right before, we should wait till Novak defeats Sam first.

Betty
04-25-2008, 03:05 PM
purtroppo no, appena saprò notizie più certe, ti scriverò :) ;)

:yeah: in bocca al lupo
:secret: domani sarò fedtard pure io :devil::eek:

prima donna
04-25-2008, 03:06 PM
:yeah: in bocca al lupo
:secret: domani sarò fedtard pure io :devil::eek:
ah bene! finalmente ti sei messa la testa apposto :devil:

Betty
04-25-2008, 03:07 PM
ah bene! finalmente ti sei messa la testa apposto :devil:

per un giorno caro :devil: saranno tutti questi amici fedtards così affascinanti :devil:o sarà che non mi piace nole :devil:

bokehlicious
04-25-2008, 03:09 PM
:haha: keep it up zcess :yeah:

:retard:

HNCS
04-25-2008, 03:10 PM
No, I never said that. It'll be a very tight match. But you were right before, we should wait till Novak defeats Sam first.

i think some of us are trying to put words into zcess's mouth. i think he's just trying to say that Novak seems to be turning the H2H around due to his improvement over the last few years and there for has more of a momentum. I think it's perfectly understandable where zcess is coming from. I would agree if I weren't a federer fan. but unfortunately i think Roger will again step it up in the SF. :devil: but yeah, let's just see how Sam Querry will go.

juninhOH
04-25-2008, 03:12 PM
i'm fedfan, but even tho their h2h shows 5-2, THIS H2H doesnt show the reality, since first matches aren't as meaningful because Djoko was yet forming himself as a good player.

zcess81
04-25-2008, 03:15 PM
:haha: keep it up zcess :yeah:

:retard:

Speaking of the devil...it took you a little longer than usual :retard::retard: you still think that Novak's getting to the final or did you have a change of heart?...cause you're such a loyal Fed fan :)

zcess81
04-25-2008, 03:16 PM
i'm fedfan, but even tho their h2h shows 5-2, THIS H2H doesnt show the reality, since first matches aren't as meaningful because Djoko was yet forming himself as a good player.

That was exactly my point.

HNCS
04-25-2008, 03:17 PM
i'm fedfan, but even tho their h2h shows 5-2, THIS H2H doesnt show the reality, since first matches aren't as meaningful because Djoko was yet forming himself as a good player.



i agree with this. as a lot of H2H's don't speak the reality. but i'm just trying to say that, Federer isn't going to roll over for Nole tommorow and won't let Nole turn around that H2H too soon.

zcess81
04-25-2008, 03:20 PM
i think some of us are trying to put words into zcess's mouth. i think he's just trying to say that Novak seems to be turning the H2H around due to his improvement over the last few years and there for has more of a momentum. I think it's perfectly understandable where zcess is coming from. I would agree if I weren't a federer fan. but unfortunately i think Roger will again step it up in the SF. :devil: but yeah, let's just see how Sam Querry will go.

Spot on. Finally, someone with common sense around here.
As to your prediction, of course it's likely, but I have a feeling that if Novak comes through his quarter final match comfortably he just might come out on top. But it will be a very tight match I think. No matter what, it will be entertaining that's for sure.

FNT
04-25-2008, 03:27 PM
Spot on. Finally, someone with common sense around here.
As to your prediction, of course it's likely, but I have a feeling that if Novak comes through his quarter final match comfortably he just might come out on top. But it will be a very tight match I think. No matter what, it will be entertaining that's for sure.

Yeah, some people are constantly looking for conflict. Don't have any idea why, really.
It's quite obvious, but a lot will depend on their daily form. Fed can have a Fish-like performance and Novak can play like he did in Miami. If they were up to their best, Roger will be a close favorite in my book, but since he just can't be at his best at the moment due to all issues, I think Novak has some edge here if he comes through confidently in the quarters.

Kitty de Sade
04-25-2008, 03:34 PM
Tough to call when you like both players, but great for Fed. Keep going. :yeah:

tripb19
04-25-2008, 03:42 PM
David :sad:

Glad it was a good match, but David only ever beats Roger when he serves well.

Take the fucking title Roger.

FedFan_2007
04-25-2008, 03:43 PM
Rest up champ. You deserve it.

Rogiman
04-25-2008, 03:44 PM
Like some Fed fans around here (P.Antonius where are you??) who always claim that Fed will lose whenever he encounters decent opposition, but when Fed wins those kind of "fans" are the first to gloat. When you predict Fed losing you can only be right. If he loses you say "I told you so", if he wins you say "Fed is back...I knew it!"...have the guts to stick by your player when he goes through tough period instead of jumping on the bandwagon.Liking a player doesn't mean always believing he is going to win. I believe every player in the top 100 has fans.

Nalbandian!!!
04-25-2008, 03:57 PM
Next Time David , no worries at all great match.

Rogieva
04-25-2008, 04:00 PM
YESSSS! :banana:

Nice stats for a change!

Blue Heart24
04-25-2008, 04:05 PM
Great tennis in this match.Really enjoyed it.

The old Fed is back.Let's see if he can confirm that tomorrow!

tangerine_dream
04-25-2008, 04:08 PM
http://i27.tinypic.com/10f82yq.jpg How Roger got his groove back.

The curse of the MTF poll strikes again. It's fun reading the prediction thread where everybody was saying Nalby would eat Roger alive and Roger would be lucky to avoid a bagel (from the Fedtards noless :rolleyes: ) . You all make Wertheim look like Nostradamus.

Turns out that his tough match with RRH in the second round was just what he needed to get back on track. "Roger" as we know him is back, zit, warts, and all. No more mono excuses. :wavey:

scarecrows
04-25-2008, 04:13 PM
this is sparta fuckers

CyBorg
04-25-2008, 04:14 PM
Rest up champ. You deserve it.

FedFan clearly just came.

zcess81
04-25-2008, 04:17 PM
http://i27.tinypic.com/10f82yq.jpg How Roger got his groove back.

The curse of the MTF poll strikes again. It's fun reading the prediction thread where everybody was saying Nalby would eat Roger alive and Roger would be lucky to avoid a bagel (from the Fedtards noless :rolleyes: ) . You all make Wertheim look like Nostradamus.

Turns out that his tough match with RRH in the second round was just what he needed to get back on track. "Roger" as we know him is back, zit, warts, and all. No more mono excuses. :wavey:

Until he loses.

prima donna
04-25-2008, 04:17 PM
http://i27.tinypic.com/10f82yq.jpg How Roger got his groove back.

The curse of the MTF poll strikes again. It's fun reading the prediction thread where everybody was saying Nalby would eat Roger alive and Roger would be lucky to avoid a bagel (from the Fedtards noless :rolleyes: ) . You all make Wertheim look like Nostradamus.

Turns out that his tough match with RRH in the second round was just what he needed to get back on track. "Roger" as we know him is back, zit, warts, and all. No more mono excuses. :wavey:

This is a lot to swallow coming from someone whose favorite didn't even bother to make the trip to Monte Carlo, in essence conceding defeat.

Nothing out of the ordinary for an incredibly audacious and possibly in the closet lesbian.

your_valentine
04-25-2008, 04:18 PM
Roger :woohoo:

lorenz
04-25-2008, 04:24 PM
I'm a bit of sad because David !!!
I'm going to see the macht later at home, it seems it was a great match.

FedFan_2007
04-25-2008, 04:34 PM
I was always on Federer's side. I always believed in him!

Art&Soul
04-25-2008, 04:35 PM
I was always on Federer's side. I always believed in him!
You mug :mad:

yuiwer
04-25-2008, 04:36 PM
Roger, simply :worship::worship::worship::worship:

GlennMirnyi
04-25-2008, 04:36 PM
Where's that bluefork fella? I told you mate - fat Dave wouldn't go far. :wavey:

Merton
04-25-2008, 04:45 PM
Great win for Roger, now we got the answer to the question of where he stands at the moment on clay. The answer is roughly where he was last year.

Greenday
04-25-2008, 04:48 PM
Tht was more like it Roger!...I haven't seen Roger so determined to win a match for a while now.......He was running down everything and he was FAST!..He was so desperate out there not to let the h2h change.....He played with lot of intensity!..His reaction after he won his match explains it all!....I have never seen roger tht fired up at the end of the match...(save some GS finals).and some of those forehand winners were just brilliant....and amazingly his backhand didnt let him down........David's backhand was on fire too!

scarecrows
04-25-2008, 04:49 PM
let's see some quotes

adee-gee:
Nalbandian is going to rip him a massively fat one.

selyoink:
Fed probably peed his pants when he saw the Nalbandian/Robredo scoreline. Nalbandian will destroy Fedmug.

fenomeno2111:
Federer must be packing a good lunchbox for school tomorrow....

Manon:
It will be another demolition made by David.

maxxo:
nalbandian's gonna eat him alive.

Nalbandian!! :worship:
Nalbandian Will **** Him Badly.

Acer:
Poor Federer I feel his arse is going to get whipped by his nemesis.

thank you gyes :worship:

tangerine_dream
04-25-2008, 04:50 PM
Until he loses.
They can't play the mono card all year. If you're playing great one day but crap the next, that's not mono, that's just sport.

bluefork
04-25-2008, 04:52 PM
Where's that bluefork fella? I told you mate - fat Dave wouldn't go far. :wavey:

I didn't predict him to win the tournament or anything. I just said that Djokovic wasn't a given for the final because you never know what could happen with Nalbandian.:rolleyes:

dylan24
04-25-2008, 04:54 PM
like i said
fat dave's best chance against roger is on fast court, i.e..end of last year..not on clay.

Art&Soul
04-25-2008, 04:54 PM
hehe "good quotes" :o

GlennMirnyi
04-25-2008, 04:55 PM
I didn't predict him to win the tournament or anything. I just said that Djokovic wasn't a given for the final because you never know what could happen with Nalbandian.:rolleyes:

So? I told you he wasn't going to make that far. I was right and thanks for showing up. :)

scarecrows
04-25-2008, 04:55 PM
They can't play the mono card all year. If you're playing great one day but crap the next, that's not mono, that's just sport.

you never know with mono, symptoms can be intermittent :shrug:

GlennMirnyi
04-25-2008, 04:56 PM
like i said
fat dave's best chance against roger is on fast court, i.e..end of last year..not on clay.

Cachalot's only chance is when the circuit is tired and he has been watching rally races all year like last year.

LeChuck
04-25-2008, 04:56 PM
Congratulations to Federer who was outstanding today. I'm not disappointed with this result at all and David didn't play badly by any means.
It was a very enjoyable match.

Cafisho
04-25-2008, 05:05 PM
Awesome match from both of these players, Roger took all the break chances at the very first opportunity.

Now i hope that someone will upload a torrent of this one, i can't wait to make a video with some great winners :p

bluefork
04-25-2008, 05:15 PM
Cachalot's only chance is when the circuit is tired and he has been watching rally races all year like last year.

Stop making excuses. Nalbandian won those matches last fall because he outplayed everyone. His focus is often questionable, but his talent is worthy of a top 5 ranking, unlike some of the guys you claim play real "tennis."

sawan66278
04-25-2008, 05:25 PM
VERY impressive by Roger: the sleeper has awakened.

Apemant
04-25-2008, 05:27 PM
Turns out that his tough match with RRH in the second round was just what he needed to get back on track. "Roger" as we know him is back, zit, warts, and all. No more mono excuses. :wavey:

Not so fast...

Wikipedia on mononucleosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononucleosis#Atypical_presentations_of_mononucleo sis.2FEBV_infection):

Perhaps a majority of chronic post infectious "fatigue states" appear not to be caused by a chronic viral infection, but are triggered by the acute infection.[citation needed] Direct and indirect evidence of persistent viral infection has been found in CFS, for example in muscle and via detection of an unusually low molecular weight RNase L enzyme, although the commonality and significance of such findings is disputed. Hickie et al contend that mononucleosis appears to cause a hit and run injury to the brain in the early stages of the acute phase, thereby causing the chronic fatigue state. This would explain why in mononucleosis, fatigue very often lingers for months after the Epstein Barr Virus has been controlled by the immune system. Just how infectious mononucleosis changes the brain and causes fatigue (or lack thereof) in certain individuals remains to be seen. Such a mechanism may include activation of microglia in the brain of some individuals during the acute infection. Microglia may remain activated or "damaged" for months following infection, thereby causing a slowly dissipating fatigue.

In other words, you just wake up and you're dead tired for no reason. (Hint: Fish)

Needless to say, Federer really is a master of excuses. It's hard to find anything better than this. :devil:

FedererBulgaria
04-25-2008, 05:58 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p62/markeyesworld/rogpoint1.gif

Yeah,look at my signature!:devil::p

Tennis-Engineer
04-25-2008, 06:02 PM
Cachalot's only chance is when the circuit is tired and he has been watching rally races all year like last year.

Another garbage of you .Look at his Australian Open record in recent 5-6 years and see his results when everyone is "fresh".Moreover it is not his problem if others are tired in november and december.

So? I told you he wasn't going to make that far. I was right and thanks for showing up. :).


Dont try to take the credit of this result.It is not a feat to predict that world number one would win a match.If others had doubts about it,that was because of his poor performance against RRH.

Aloimeh
04-25-2008, 06:06 PM
They can't play the mono card all year. If you're playing great one day but crap the next, that's not mono, that's just sport.

There's a new theory running around that mono can come and go in spells - intermittently. E.g. when Roger beats Nalbandian, he is mono-free. When Roger loses to _______ he is stricken with mono and a very ill man. Never mind the fact that there's no biological support for the "intermittent" theory, but anything goes with the Federeresians.

Bilbo
04-25-2008, 06:11 PM
tired as hell

mediter
04-25-2008, 06:16 PM
The king of chokers has done it again!

even if the transitional champ is getting drowned in deep sea, this coward from argentina would invariably find a way to lift him to a peak.

loser!

morningglory
04-25-2008, 06:23 PM
:eek: well Exfed is now Fedex again? If he wins MC I will be forced to conclude so...

Apemant
04-25-2008, 06:38 PM
There's a new theory running around that mono can come and go in spells - intermittently. E.g. when Roger beats Nalbandian, he is mono-free. When Roger loses to _______ he is stricken with mono and a very ill man. Never mind the fact that there's no biological support for the "intermittent" theory, but anything goes with the Federeresians.

Two questions: first, are you a medical expert? You claim things as if from a position of authority. And second, what 'intermittent' theory? The quote I posted cleary says that this fatigue may come well AFTER the mono is already cured. So it's not that mono itself 'comes back' - only the fatigue, as a result of the damage EBV has done while it was in the system.

Anyway, you can :mad: as much as you like, but as far as I remember, great movement was always one of Fed's defining characteristics. If I see him moving like a Karlovic out there, what do you think I should assume? Old age caught with him eventually?

Tennis-Engineer
04-25-2008, 06:39 PM
Federer after the match:

Asked if it was his best win of the year, Federer said: "I rather would have won in two sets, then maybe it would have been the best match of the season. It was a good match. I was happy with my performance.

"It's always nice playing against [Nalbandian]. And when you beat him, you always know you're playing well because he's not just going to hand it over to you."

RagingLamb
04-25-2008, 06:40 PM
Federer hit some beautiful ground strokes all day.

He seems to be getting better with every match.

Djokovic better be on tomorrow.

MrChopin
04-25-2008, 06:42 PM
There's a new theory running around that mono can come and go in spells - intermittently. E.g. when Roger beats Nalbandian, he is mono-free. When Roger loses to _______ he is stricken with mono and a very ill man. Never mind the fact that there's no biological support for the "intermittent" theory, but anything goes with the Federeresians.

That's a significant slip right there. You should have avoided this thread all together.

Apemant
04-25-2008, 06:48 PM
That's a significant slip right there. You should have avoided this thread all together.

Eh? Is this what I think it is?

RagingLamb
04-25-2008, 06:52 PM
Eh? Is this what I think it is?

oh oh

Aloimeh
04-25-2008, 06:59 PM
Two questions: first, are you a medical expert? You claim things as if from a position of authority. And second, what 'intermittent' theory? The quote I posted cleary says that this fatigue may come well AFTER the mono is already cured. So it's not that mono itself 'comes back' - only the fatigue, as a result of the damage EBV has done while it was in the system.

Anyway, you can :mad: as much as you like, but as far as I remember, great movement was always one of Fed's defining characteristics. If I see him moving like a Karlovic out there, what do you think I should assume? Old age caught with him eventually?

Medical student. And I know about EBV, and I know that it doesn't allow you to destroy Berdych and Blake one day and then suddenly hit you when you're playing Djokovic.

Aloimeh
04-25-2008, 07:01 PM
That's a significant slip right there. You should have avoided this thread all together.

Just what are you getting at? I heard this term from ClayDeath on tennis.com and I like it very much - very apt. If you're inferring that I'm a reincarnation of R=FK, you are most incorrect. For one, my writing style is completely different, and I am focused almost exclusively on one player - Djokovic - whereas R=FK supports anyone who has beaten Federer.

gmak
04-25-2008, 07:06 PM
David :( :sad:

great first set, too bad he couldn't keep it up
still a good tournament :yeah:

kakoiijing
04-25-2008, 07:07 PM
Amazing match, I watched online, the but stream is not that good, and I couldn't finish the whole match, I can't wait for the torrent, hope we can start download and share tonight.

garad
04-25-2008, 07:08 PM
Just what are you getting at? I heard this term from ClayDeath on tennis.com and I like it very much - very apt. If you're inferring that I'm a reincarnation of R=FK, you are most incorrect. For one, my writing style is completely different, and I am focused almost exclusively on one player - Djokovic - whereas R=FK supports anyone who has beaten Federer.

Oh realy?

Roland9
04-25-2008, 07:15 PM
*kicks himself for missing the match*

Well, well, when was the last time people said "Federer played really good"?.. Long ago I guess; it really is a good sign that he beat a top 10 player by playing good. It is even a better sign that -appereantly- he is hitting winners consistently... Well done.

mediter
04-25-2008, 07:19 PM
I am focused almost exclusively on one player - Djokovic

what about ana and janky?

you don't think about getting into ana's pants? not plausible.

Aloimeh
04-25-2008, 07:22 PM
what about ana and janky?

you don't think about getting into ana's pants? not plausible.

I don't like janky all that much. She's energizer-bunnyish but she's really erratic and quite vain. I like Ana but I'm not sure she has a winner's mentality in GS finals. She seems quite fine-tuned, i.e. when her strokes are slightly off (like when she's nervous), she's spraying the ball all over the place. She needs to find a way to win when her strokes are off. On the other hand, I think she's gorgeous and she seems to be a kind and humble person.

Sunset of Age
04-25-2008, 07:23 PM
Fantastic match from both players. :worship:
It's rather sad one of them had to go today!

Finally Fed back on level. Hopefully he will be able to keep it up for another match at least. :yeah:

Nalby... :hug: and thanks for the entertainment. Better luck in Rome!

Sunset of Age
04-25-2008, 07:24 PM
Eh? Is this what I think it is?

It's either THAT or his long-lost twin brother.
Don't bother, just ignore that troll.

jonny84
04-25-2008, 07:27 PM
Impressive stuff for Federer. Looks like he could be back in the running for the major titles this claycourt season.

Apemant
04-25-2008, 07:31 PM
Medical student. And I know about EBV, and I know that it doesn't allow you to destroy Berdych and Blake one day and then suddenly hit you when you're playing Djokovic.

Who's talking about destroying anyone? I was talking about MOVEMENT. Sure Fed can have a bad day and spray errors everywhere. He even won some of those matches plagued with error, but also lost a couple of those here and there. Just a bad day I guess. BUT, when you see that he barely moves, and you know that normally he jumps around with catlike reflexes, WHAT do you think the reason is? As a medical student of course.

Apemant
04-25-2008, 07:36 PM
It's either THAT or his long-lost twin brother.
Don't bother, just ignore that troll.

No no no, Aloimeh might enjoy stirring trouble but he sounds bright. Just like that Fahrenheit dude. I only ignore clueless trolls as it's futile to argue with them - they don't understand arguments anyway. They prefer oneliners anyway, which is not my cup of tea. :devil:

Aloimeh
04-25-2008, 07:37 PM
Who's talking about destroying anyone? I was talking about MOVEMENT. Sure Fed can have a bad day and spray errors everywhere. He even won some of those matches plagued with error, but also lost a couple of those here and there. Just a bad day I guess. BUT, when you see that he barely moves, and you know that normally he jumps around with catlike reflexes, WHAT do you think the reason is? As a medical student of course.

In my view it's more mental than physical, but possibly a bit physical too (older age and all that). Mostly, I think Fed is tired from being so many years on the tour, so much pressure, "history," etc. I think he's mentally tired in the same way that Borg was just before he retired. On the other hand, whereas I think some of the other upsets, such as Murray, Roddick, and especially Fish were due to these mental issues, I think Djokovic has improved to the point where he can consistently beat a good-form Federer. We'll see tomorrow.

It has to be mental at least to a degree, otherwise we can't understand how he can suck so badly against Hidalgo (!!!) and then easily beat Monfils and take out a pretty powerful Nalbandian in the next matches. We'll see tomorrow if a mentally-refreshed Federer can take down a much-improved Djokovic.

mediter
04-25-2008, 07:40 PM
[quote] I like Ana but I'm not sure she has a winner's mentality in GS finals. She seems quite fine-tuned, i.e. when her strokes are slightly off[\quote]

Nothing unusual. I have seen it all before. Its part of growing up. All these come with experience.

Lendl lost all his GS finals for three years and was well another way to another certain defeat vs mcenroe of all people on paris clay in 1984. Came back to win the epic in 5. he still ended up with 8 slams.

groundstroke
04-25-2008, 08:06 PM
No surprises here at all, why are people ass-licking Federer? Everyone knew he was going to win.

Federerhingis
04-25-2008, 08:18 PM
5/5 on break points? Holy fuck.

Roger...5/5...


You know Dom, it's about time!!!!!!!!!!! :yeah: Finally he wins a big match since beating Tipsarevic earlier in the year. This should give him some confidence but Novak won't be any easier customer. If Federer should keep this level up, the semifinal should be very entertaining at least. :p

finishingmove
04-25-2008, 08:18 PM
In my view it's more mental than physical, but possibly a bit physical too (older age and all that). Mostly, I think Fed is tired from being so many years on the tour, so much pressure, "history," etc. I think he's mentally tired in the same way that Borg was just before he retired. On the other hand, whereas I think some of the other upsets, such as Murray, Roddick, and especially Fish were due to these mental issues, I think Djokovic has improved to the point where he can consistently beat a good-form Federer. We'll see tomorrow.

It has to be mental at least to a degree, otherwise we can't understand how he can suck so badly against Hidalgo (!!!) and then easily beat Monfils and take out a pretty powerful Nalbandian in the next matches. We'll see tomorrow if a mentally-refreshed Federer can take down a much-improved Djokovic.

ofc its mental . he seems like he's about to lose the match ,his body language is bad even ,and then he snaps out of it as soon as his opponent starts slipping.

he's lost the confidence he had over the past few years.

0% mono , 100% human psyche

Federerhingis
04-25-2008, 08:21 PM
Fantastic match from both players. :worship:
It's rather sad one of them had to go today!

Finally Fed back on level. Hopefully he will be able to keep it up for another match at least. :yeah:

Nalby... :hug: and thanks for the entertainment. Better luck in Rome!


Karinsita babes. :hug: Aren't you a lucky customer, you witnessed it all on HD. :rocker2: Way to go Roger, yeah David just ran out of steam a bit.

Sunset of Age
04-25-2008, 08:28 PM
Karinsita babes. :hug: Aren't you a lucky customer, you witnessed it all on HD. :rocker2: Way to go Roger, yeah David just ran out of steam a bit.

Luis... :hug: yeah man, on HD Big Screen TV. :worship: :worship: :worship:

Even sitting through the atrocity that was Denko - Andreev was worth it. :angel:

And didn't I say so yesterday - without hope, all is lost? ;)

gnaz
04-25-2008, 09:37 PM
Federer played like ROGER FEDERER!

Apemant
04-25-2008, 09:46 PM
ofc its mental . he seems like he's about to lose the match ,his body language is bad even ,and then he snaps out of it as soon as his opponent starts slipping.

he's lost the confidence he had over the past few years.

0% mono , 100% human psyche

Care to give a few arguments for the claim that it has absolutely nothing to do with mono?

As for me, I admit openly that I simply don't know. I'm not acquainted with Fed's doctors or his agents so I have no clue about his medical condition of past and present. But how did you come to your opinion, exactly? Based on what, I mean? Your wishes?

finishingmove
04-25-2008, 09:59 PM
im saying he's absolutely healthy now , whether or not he had mono at the AO. he WAS looking kinda pale then...

his problem now is to get mentally back where he was. luckily he has good friends like hidalgo , monfils and nalbandian

as for the mono specifically , i dont think u can reach AO semis (or any other for that matter) with mono.

just my non expert opinion

Aloimeh
04-25-2008, 10:00 PM
Care to give a few arguments for the claim that it has absolutely nothing to do with mono?

As for me, I admit openly that I simply don't know. I'm not acquainted with Fed's doctors or his agents so I have no clue about his medical condition of past and present. But how did you come to your opinion, exactly? Based on what, I mean? Your wishes?

You can conclude it based on this last tournament - he barely survives the Hidalgo guy and then beats an on-fire Nalbandian. That's clearly mental. You couldn't be stricken with mono symptoms two days ago and now you're not....EBV infection doesn't work that way. It's tonic, not intermittent - you're out for days, weeks, months, etc. and there's a gradual recovery, but it's not like you're out one day and then are fine the next.

In Roger's case, it's absolutely mental. I think he's tired of chasing the "mickey mouse" (for him) titles, which includes MS, and he's only interested in slams. That would also explain why he flunked out in IW and Miami last year. He just lacks the concentration/motivation in the early rounds. When he's closer to the final, he's probably more willing to fight for the win, as he's doing now. I think he will still fight for a title when he feels the No. 1 ranking is under threat, and also perhaps a prestigious title that he he's lacking, e.g. Monte Carlo or Rome, but he knows that in the end his legacy will be determined by:

1.) No. of slams

2.) French Open

Agassi has more TMS than anybody else and nobody seems to credit him for it. Connors has more titles than anyone else, and he also doesn't get the respect given to Federer, Sampras, Borg. It's grand slams that count. Unfortunately for Roger, at this time there's also someone else very hungry for slams and very capable of getting them, and that's Djokovic.

rosamunda
04-25-2008, 10:08 PM
ofc its mental . he seems like he's about to lose the match ,his body language is bad even ,and then he snaps out of it as soon as his opponent starts slipping.

he's lost the confidence he had over the past few years.

0% mono , 100% human psyche

I guess we'll never know if Fed's truly lousy play in the middle of the Hidalgo match was because of the mono or whether he just lost his way and played, well, lousy tennis. But I found it interesting that Barry Cowan, commentating on Sky TV, said that he had had glandular fever yonks ago, and he was plagued with sudden bouts of fatigue and listlessness out of the blue for years afterwards. A similar thing happened to a good friend of mine - she suffered on and off for a couple of years. Whatever our medical student friend may say, there seems to be a fair amount of empirical evidence that, post-infection, there are consequences. And, having worked in the UK Health Service for a very long time, I can tell you, these post-infection lapses are very common.

Whether Fed is suffering from such bouts of fatigue, who knows, but the possibility can't just be dismissed out of hand, especially as some days recently he has been noticeably slow, and then has a day like today when he was deathly quick. Having said that, if he loses to Novak tomorrow, I for one won't be blaming it on glandular fever!

Apemant
04-25-2008, 10:10 PM
You can conclude it based on this last tournament - he barely survives the Hidalgo guy and then beats an on-fire Nalbandian. That's clearly mental. You couldn't be stricken with mono symptoms two days ago and now you're not....EBV infection doesn't work that way. It's tonic, not intermittent - you're out for days, weeks, months, etc. and there's a gradual recovery, but it's not like you're out one day and then are fine the next.

The quote from Wikipedia that I posted (which you obviously didn't bother reading ;) ) explicitly claims otherwise, that episodes of sudden fatigue are commonly linked with people who recently HAD mono.

Anyway, he looked physically fine to me, even vs. RRH. I'm not attributing his poor play to any illness, it was just a poor performance, period. It's not like he never did stuff like that before. Why, he almost lost to that Suzuki dude, who was ranked like 1000 or so.

finishingmove
04-25-2008, 10:17 PM
"sudden episodes of fatigue" wouldnt disappear just in time for him to win the match.

even though hidalgo (especially) and nalbandian dropped their level , fed upped his ,respectively, as the matches were coming to an end