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Djokovic defeats Murray 6-0, 6-4

groundstroke
04-24-2008, 03:38 PM
Murray should have withdrawn, he played awful, Djokovic played great.

HeretiC
04-24-2008, 03:39 PM
:worship:

W!MBLEDON
04-24-2008, 03:39 PM
what's with all the bagels :unsure:

i'm not surprised at this result to be honest.

murray served two double faults on the last two points :retard: :smash:

1ST SERVE %
Djokovic 47%
Murray 42%

ACES
Djokovic 0
Murray 2

DOUBLE FAULTS
Djokovic 0
Murray 5

1ST SERVE POINTS WON
Djokovic 67%
Murray 56%

2ND SERVE POINTS WON
Djokovic 71%
Murray 40%

TOTAL WINNERS
Djokovic 24
Murray 12

UNFORCED ERRORS
Djokovic 20
Murray 21

BREAK POINTS WON
Djokovic 5/10
Murray 1/5

TOTAL POINTS WON
Djokovic 63
Murray 42

TIME
1hr 18mins 18secs

adee-gee
04-24-2008, 03:39 PM
Feeble.

bokehlicious
04-24-2008, 03:39 PM
Hopeless overrated Scot :rolleyes: :zzz:

TheBoiledEgg
04-24-2008, 03:40 PM
what a complete mug :haha:

complete wimpish way to end match :tape:

Allegretto
04-24-2008, 03:40 PM
Pathetic. He serves like a girl.

BlueSwan
04-24-2008, 03:40 PM
This Djokovic is good. More impressive on clay than I had expected.

l_mac
04-24-2008, 03:41 PM
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

Apalling effort from Murray :lol:

Painful.

aeronatasha
04-24-2008, 03:41 PM
Nole! Pretty solid except for that low serve percentage, but hey. Some excellent shots on both sides.

Man was that 2nd game in the 1st set long or what!

HeiwaDream
04-24-2008, 03:41 PM
Very disappointing Murray. Djokovic seems to have his number.

groundstroke
04-24-2008, 03:41 PM
what a complete mug :haha:

complete wimpish way to end match :tape:
Murray had an absolute calamity today, you should have seen it. It's like he wanted Djokovic to win, I actually laughed at Murray, he's nothing.

moonfire098
04-24-2008, 03:41 PM
of course he is good.. that is why he is number 3 in the world

arm
04-24-2008, 03:42 PM
:)
That ballboy, poor guy. Murray was really angry about that.

Rogiman
04-24-2008, 03:42 PM
Murray is lightyears behind the major forces of his generation, Djokovic and Nadal.

Branimir
04-24-2008, 03:42 PM
Djokovic is Murray's worse nightmare!

leng jai
04-24-2008, 03:42 PM
Murray :retard:

tennizen
04-24-2008, 03:42 PM
What a stupid stupid match by Murray. He is the biggest clown ever to hold a racquet.

shotgun
04-24-2008, 03:43 PM
Too easy. Djokovic is currently ages ahead of Murray on any surface, no rivalry here.

W!MBLEDON
04-24-2008, 03:43 PM
stats in first post

moonfire098
04-24-2008, 03:43 PM
do u know where the monte carlo tournament can be seen on tv in the US?

NinaNina19
04-24-2008, 03:44 PM
Absolute shit playing by Murray. Horrible/unbearable to watch.

jasmin
04-24-2008, 03:44 PM
Wow pretty dismal...Murray's really improving....not. I thought he was better than that performance.

StZox
04-24-2008, 03:44 PM
The first set was impressive by Nole.
Like him or not, HE IS GOOD!!!!!

Win the title!

Beat
04-24-2008, 03:44 PM
:lol:

jeahhh!
04-24-2008, 03:45 PM
do u know where the monte carlo tournament can be seen on tv in the US?

The tennis channel.

anon57
04-24-2008, 03:45 PM
Pathetic performance from Murray in the first set, the second was better but Djokovic was still way too good.

Justin425
04-24-2008, 03:45 PM
:lol::lol::lol::haha::haha::haha::spit::spit::spit ::rolls::rolls::rolls:

This certainly answers the "Who's the most overhyped" question. At least Gasquet has a slam semi and couple of tms finals and Berdych has a tms title.

Kolya
04-24-2008, 03:45 PM
Murray sucks...

If you're going to play like a pussy you're going to get smashed by Nole.

W!MBLEDON
04-24-2008, 03:45 PM
already posted stats in my thread, but here they are for the people in this thread, before it gets merged:

1ST SERVE %
Djokovic 47%
Murray 42%

ACES
Djokovic 0
Murray 2

DOUBLE FAULTS
Djokovic 0
Murray 5

1ST SERVE POINTS WON
Djokovic 67%
Murray 56%

2ND SERVE POINTS WON
Djokovic 71%
Murray 40%

TOTAL WINNERS
Djokovic 24
Murray 12

UNFORCED ERRORS
Djokovic 20
Murray 21

BREAK POINTS WON
Djokovic 5/10
Murray 1/5

TOTAL POINTS WON
Djokovic 63
Murray 42

TIME
1hr 18mins 18secs

:wavey:

shotgun
04-24-2008, 03:46 PM
Absolute shit playing by Murray. Horrible/unbearable to watch.

Don't do anything silly to yourself, ok? :sad:

finishingmove
04-24-2008, 03:46 PM
murray seems to trail some trauma from the juniors

Snowwy
04-24-2008, 03:47 PM
Not a fan of Djokovic but this was nice to see.

Allegretto
04-24-2008, 03:47 PM
Wow pretty dismal...Murray's really improving....not.
If anything he's going backwards. Passive bullshit pretty much sums up his game at the moment, and Dementieva could coach him on improving his serve.

foul_dwimmerlaik
04-24-2008, 03:47 PM
And so the pwnage continues. 0-4 now baby.

Still Muzza is much more talented tham Nole. There can be no doubt about that whatsoever.

HNCS
04-24-2008, 03:47 PM
:o bagel feast day

Branimir
04-24-2008, 03:48 PM
Hahahhahaha. Murray got smashed hard. Djokovic was too nice in the second set!

GuiroNl
04-24-2008, 03:48 PM
Always great to see The Incredible Sulk receive a trashing (even though I don't like Djokovic) :haha:

HeretiC
04-24-2008, 03:49 PM
So a big question: Is it a bad match up issue or just a different level of quality between these two ?

Branimir
04-24-2008, 03:49 PM
Yeah. Murray is more talented. No question about it.

Justin425
04-24-2008, 03:50 PM
So a big question: Is it a bad match up issue or just a different level of quality between these two ?

Both.

kobulingam
04-24-2008, 03:50 PM
The difference between Nadal's moonballing and Murray's is that Nadal's moonballs are super super heavy and an attacking shot in an indirect way. Murray's are just glorified floaters waiting to be spanked.

uNIVERSE mAN
04-24-2008, 03:50 PM
Murray clearly has a matchup problem against Djokovic.

LocoPorElTenis
04-24-2008, 03:50 PM
Hopefully Nalbi will stop the egomaniac on his tracks in the SF.

sawan66278
04-24-2008, 03:51 PM
I was SO wrong...as a future #1, Novak needs a Raggedy Andy to play with...like a cat with a ball of yarn...

Roger has the Duck. Novak's found one in Murray.

tangerine_dream
04-24-2008, 03:52 PM
Nole totally fucks up Andy again. :lol: I laughed at the bagel, I got flashbacks of Brad Gilbert flipping out and screaming at Andy in the stands that day in Miami last year when Nole went medieval on ol' Snagglepuss.

Nole, you barbarian, take it easy on your underling.

Apemant
04-24-2008, 03:52 PM
Actually Andy didn't play THAT bad in the 1st set, had many gamepoints and even a couple of breakpoints but just couldn't win those games. Ancic was far worse in the 1st set against Nadal.

Farenhajt
04-24-2008, 03:52 PM
No comment necessary whatsoever.

Talent? :haha:

Dedicated to NinaNina19 aka "Murray is Djokovic's main rival"
Dedicated to Escude aka "Some day... some day..."
And to all Squarekilt worshippers who think he's worth more than a rat shit

:worship:

scoobs
04-24-2008, 03:52 PM
Another one of those matches where I really felt Andy didn't play big occasion tennis.

Just a disappointing match from him - really allowed Djokovic to have it all his own way in the first set after the opening break in a 15 minute game. Fought better in the second but never really looked likely to do more than delay the inevitable.

Seems to me that he just doesn't know how to use his game best to combat what Novak does, and so stands in the Monfils position (drinking cocktails with the cameramen) and attempts to run all day. Novak loves you to do that, cos he's consistent and aggressive enough to win those kind of points.

Andy has a lot to think about for Rome in general, and definitely a lot of thinking to do about how he approaches Djokovic on court in future. On this evidence, he'll be handed many more lessons from the Serb unless he can work out some better strategies and excuse them on the big occasion.

Branimir
04-24-2008, 03:52 PM
Fed also has Davy. :) 16-0 against Davy.

bokehlicious
04-24-2008, 03:53 PM
Hopefully Nalbi will stop the egomaniac on his tracks in the SF.

Fat Dave has a walk over in quarters? :confused:

Alex999
04-24-2008, 03:53 PM
Great win for Novak. I feel kinda bad for Murray, but Djokovic was superb.

zeleni
04-24-2008, 03:54 PM
Congrats Nole.

tennizen
04-24-2008, 03:54 PM
No comment necessary whatsoever.

Talent? :haha:

Dedicated to NinaNina19 aka "Murray is Djokovic's main rival"
Dedicated to Escude aka "Some day... some day..."
And to all Squarepant worshippers who think he's worth more than a rat shit

:worship:

Farenhajt, I must admit I have paid particular attention to what you were posting on t4u after Miami first round. I can quote them here if you get too excited:hug:

jazar
04-24-2008, 03:55 PM
murray sucks and it seems everyone is starting to realise it

Sunset of Age
04-24-2008, 03:57 PM
Fat Dave has a walk over in quarters? :confused:

Yeah, that Swiss Hasbeen, whatshisname... :scratch:

Excellent perfomance from Djoko, absymal by Murray.

Two DF to hand over the match... shame on you Muzza! :mad:

vucina
04-24-2008, 03:57 PM
You can't play that moonball shit against Djokovic. Good job Nole.

ReturnWinner
04-24-2008, 03:57 PM
Murray is owned by Djokvic, he should dominate him on all surfaces.

Herdwick
04-24-2008, 03:57 PM
Am sorry for Murray but he was outhit and outthought today. Nole was superb. Think Murray is too stubborn to change his style - he must have been told often enough.

Farenhajt
04-24-2008, 03:58 PM
Farenhajt, I must admit I have paid particular attention to what you were posting on t4u after Miami first round. I can quote them here if you get too excited:hug:

Always flattering to see you're much more interested in what I have to say than the other way round :)

scoobs
04-24-2008, 03:58 PM
In fairness, Djokovic played a superb first set and not for nothing is he #1 in the race. Most players would struggle against that first set performance. Scrappier in the second but still amply good enough to get it done because at the key moments he produced the shots, and Murray didn't.

There's no question, wherever my personal loyalties lie, that Novak is the far superior matchplayer of the two at this stage in their careers, and this explains the gulf in rankings more than Andy's wrist injury last year.

Novak is able to make much better use of his talents on the matchcourt in the pressure moments than Andy does at this point. And being talented is no good if you can't use that talent to construct matchwins.

BIGMARAT
04-24-2008, 03:58 PM
murray being bagelled on clay is unacceptable.

Nole just find the corners too good. He did'nt even serve that well.

bokehlicious
04-24-2008, 03:58 PM
You can't play that moonball shit against Djokovic. Good job Nole.

We'll see on Sunday how Rafa's mooball works against the Djerk :angel: :devil: :o

Adler
04-24-2008, 04:00 PM
Painful, but kinda expected

tennizen
04-24-2008, 04:00 PM
Always flattering to see you're much more interested in what I have to say than the other way round :)

Oh I love you so. You are like the Nole of MTF:inlove:

Edit: But just so you know both your excitement and subsequent disappointment are pretty incriminating:lol:

Rogiman
04-24-2008, 04:01 PM
So a big question: Is it a bad match up issue or just a different level of quality between these two ?Murray enjoys playing guys like Federer who like to go for their shots early and have many sloppy moments in the course of a match, just like Canas.

And just like against Canas, Djokovic does 10 times better everything Murray can do.

arm
04-24-2008, 04:01 PM
We'll see on Sunday how Rafa's mooball works against the Djerk :angel: :devil: :o

wow.. Good to know you think he is making it to the final! :)

Anyway, no Djokovic fan or Djokovic himself would bother losing to Nadal on clay if it meant he got to the final ;)

Bascule
04-24-2008, 04:02 PM
So, Sawan was wrong, also Escude, especially NinaNina17...:)

Why does he ALWAYS have to loose to Joker when he's much more talented?:sobbing::hysteric:

Where are you, Escude? Need a hug?:)

zeleni
04-24-2008, 04:02 PM
We'll see on Sunday how Rafa's mooball works against the Djerk :angel: :devil: :o

:eek:

Fed is not playing on Sunday?! You traitor. Goat will disappointed in you...

Zaba
04-24-2008, 04:03 PM
We'll see on Sunday how Rafa's mooball works against the Djerk :angel: :devil: :o

Always worked pretty well on clay before, no? ;)

Crappy match, Muzza.

Bascule
04-24-2008, 04:03 PM
We'll see on Sunday how Rafa's mooball works against the Djerk :angel: :devil: :o

I'm looking for Rafa-Nole final too.;)

bokehlicious
04-24-2008, 04:03 PM
Anyway, no Djokovic fan or Djokovic himself would bother losing to Nadal on clay if it meant he got to the final ;)

Stop being delusional... Most serbtards genuinely think so... :retard:

Voo de Mar
04-24-2008, 04:04 PM
I thought Murray would be a harder opponent for D'Joke this time :o

bokehlicious
04-24-2008, 04:05 PM
I'm looking for Rafa-Nole final too.;)

Me too :hug: watching Djerkobitch getting schooled will make my day ;)

scoobs
04-24-2008, 04:06 PM
I thought Murray would be a harder opponent for D'Joke this time :o
Well he won 3 more games this time so technically he was :)

zcess81
04-24-2008, 04:06 PM
wow.. Good to know you think he is making it to the final! :)

Anyway, no Djokovic fan or Djokovic himself would bother losing to Nadal on clay if it meant he got to the final ;)

I'll take Novak losing to Nadal in the final any day! It would be great achievement for him just to get to the final of AMS on clay.

BIGMARAT
04-24-2008, 04:07 PM
Fed,Ferrer,Nalby and Davidenko still has a say at quarters and semis so no one is sure of the final.

But I also love the idea of Nole-Rafa final- with Nole winning.

Bascule
04-24-2008, 04:07 PM
Me too :hug: watching Djerkobitch getting schooled will make my day ;)

So, we should expect very soon to watch Fedbitch getting schooled?:devil: Wow!:lick:

bokehlicious
04-24-2008, 04:09 PM
So, we should expect very soon to watch Fedbitch getting schooled?:devil: Wow!:lick:

Fed will lose tommorow :shrug: he's not in the mix anymore anyway... Top players are Rafa, Nole and Fit Dave :shrug: other players are all mugs...

sphiie
04-24-2008, 04:10 PM
ouch! Novak destroys andy for the 4th time! so strong ! I expected more for Murray!

zeleni
04-24-2008, 04:10 PM
So, we should expect very soon to watch Fedbitch getting schooled?:devil: Wow!:lick:

Mono a.k.a. Fat Dave will take care of him.:)

FiBeR
04-24-2008, 04:12 PM
Murray is Djokovic's bitch :rolls:

Horatio Caine
04-24-2008, 04:13 PM
Saw the first set in the gym, and it would have taken a class act to beat Nole today. :worship:

However, I'm most disappointed in the player Andy is turning into...nothing but a "pusher." :help: Appalled that he was standing 6 feet behnd the baseline. :retard:

Definitely not top 10 material right now, and he has been on the downward trend since he dumped Gilbert. :rolleyes:

Branimir
04-24-2008, 04:18 PM
I can't understand what is so good in Murray's game that he is considered one of the most talented young players with bright future. Can you guys explain that to me. I mean he can pull of some good shots once in awhile and that is it.

Apemant
04-24-2008, 04:18 PM
Why does he ALWAYS have to loose to Joker when he's much more talented?:sobbing::hysteric:

matchup + psyche + development differences

Undoubtly Nole is a much better player right now... perhaps Fed was right that there wasn't much progress in Andy's game

Roland9
04-24-2008, 04:18 PM
You may describe the match by saying "Murray was horrible", and he was, but you would be disregarding Djokovic's fine display - he is in a solid form at the moment.

Jaap
04-24-2008, 04:19 PM
Murray is nothing but another Gilles Simon these days.

gambit84
04-24-2008, 04:21 PM
Murray is Djokovic's bitch :rolls:

:haha: :haha:

Bernard Black
04-24-2008, 04:21 PM
Ouch, one more and Murray's a pigeon for the first time.

I'm worried this will become a Roddick-Federer type scenario, with Murray bending over for Djokovic every time they play.

Still, on the plus side it's been a decent week for Murray. He won all the matches he was expected to win. Would have liked to see him put up something of a fight today though, but he was all too recessive.

Apemant
04-24-2008, 04:21 PM
I can't understand what is so good in Murray's game that he is considered one of the most talented young players with bright future. Can you guys explain that to me. I mean he can pull of some good shots once in awhile and that is it.

Just imagine him pulling those shots way more often than now, and there you go :devil:

Murray is nothing but another Gilles Simon these days.

Hmm a rather acurate comparison actually... I said the same thing after dubai rd2. His backhand looked eerily similar to Simon's :mad:

Ma Baker
04-24-2008, 04:23 PM
Good match for Murray. He took 4 games from Djoko :clap2:

rocketassist
04-24-2008, 04:25 PM
The difference with the two of them is Djerk has more power on the forehand side and will put short balls away.

Both are solid and have great BHs, but on the forehand, Novak is one lap of the M25 ahead.

Lack of fight from Murray it sounded, or no tactics, and on clay he'll always lose to the Djerk.

Savo
04-24-2008, 04:25 PM
A future number one this Murray, no doubt about it....

Go for the title Nole, you know you can do it!

timafi
04-24-2008, 04:26 PM
seems to me that Murray can only win titles on nothing but hard courts just like James Flake:rolleyes::rolleyes:

GlennMirnyi
04-24-2008, 04:29 PM
Murray seems to have specialised in being a c*** everytime it matters.

rocketassist
04-24-2008, 04:30 PM
Murray seems to have specialised in being a c*** everytime it matters.

Hit the nail on the head.

Murray = :retard:

yellowboy906
04-24-2008, 04:31 PM
Ouch, one more and Murray's a pigeon for the first time.

I'm worried this will become a Roddick-Federer type scenario, with Murray bending over for Djokovic every time they play.

Still, on the plus side it's been a decent week for Murray. He won all the matches he was expected to win. Would have liked to see him put up something of a fight today though, but he was all too recessive.

this might also become a federer-hewitt type scenario with andy getting owned by djoker early like fed did against hewitt. then own him back later in their career. maybe murray develop slow like fed.:p:cool:

Merton
04-24-2008, 04:32 PM
Too comfortable for Djokovic, Andy does not have a clay forehand to make this match-up competitive.

*Ljubica*
04-24-2008, 04:32 PM
Yes - Murray was poor (especially in the 1st set), - but in many ways, that's because Nole didn't let him play. He was just superb today - too good :worship:

Yes, I'm always happy to see the miserable Scot lose - and losing to Nole makes it even better.

Nole :inlove: :worship:

Justin425
04-24-2008, 04:39 PM
this might also become a federer-hewitt type scenario with andy getting owned by djoker early like fed did against hewitt. then own him back later in their career. maybe murray develop slow like fed.:p:cool:

doubt it. hewitt is a pusher with no firepower and the inability to make things happen for himself on the court so once fed got his act together and became more consistent he out powered hewitt. the djokovic-murray match up is quite different.

TheSwissMaster
04-24-2008, 04:39 PM
congrats to the future king of clay

TheSwissMaster
04-24-2008, 04:43 PM
rafatards beware. rafas time is getting nearer and nearer to be dethroned on clay.

The Pro
04-24-2008, 04:44 PM
Is this the sporting hero that Scotland's been waiting for?

Pukes up at the US Open, fights with all his coaches, seems to have a lazy motivation issue, looks like a young Worzel Gummidge, seems to beat Federer about once a year or so....

Gonnae nae be good enuf. :confused:

Bernard Black
04-24-2008, 04:46 PM
rafatards beware. rafas time is getting nearer and nearer to be dethroned on clay.

Nadal >>>>>>>>> Murray

...on clay (and all other surfaces - but this could change).

scoobs
04-24-2008, 04:46 PM
Murray seems to have specialised in being a c*** everytime it matters.
Pains me to admit it but it's becoming a problem.

Wimbledon 06 against Baghdatis
US Open 06 against Davydenko
Canada 06 against Gasquet
IW / Miami 07 against Djokovic (injuries notwithstanding)
Paris 07 against Gasquet
AO 08 against Tsonga
MC 08 against Djokovic

All big, pressure matches where he just really didn't deliver anything like his best performance.

To some extent you can only play as well as your opponent allows you to but the best players find a way to weather the storm and try to turn things in their favour.

The indications are growing that he is not a big match player.

He needs to turn that around.

Rommella
04-24-2008, 04:51 PM
He's only 19. With his repertoire of shots, he may need a bit more time for everything to come together, in the same way that it did for Federer at 22.

Voo de Mar
04-24-2008, 04:52 PM
He's only 19. With his repertoire of shots, he may need a bit more time for everything to come together, in the same way that it did for Federer at 22.

Who is only 19?

scoobs
04-24-2008, 04:52 PM
There's still time, definitely.

Just feels like he's hit a plateau at the moment and is searching for the key to take it up to the next level. Until he does, I can't see him consistently in the top 10 - more likely to hover in and out of it between 8 and 20.

Apemant
04-24-2008, 04:53 PM
He's only 19. With his repertoire of shots, he may need a bit more time for everything to come together, in the same way that it did for Federer at 22.

Actually he will soon hit 21. Less than a month short.

Alex999
04-24-2008, 04:54 PM
Here is what Novak said after the match.

When you need a straight answer to a straight question, Novak Djokovic is a good man to ask.

Having seen off Andy Murray 6-0 6-4 in Monte Carlo, with plenty to spare, the world number three was asked if he thought Murray could one day be a contender on clay.

"I think he needs to be more aggressive," was Djokovic's response.

The Serb is not alone in that theory and echoed the thoughts of Roger Federer, following the world number one's defeat by Murray in Dubai last month.

Federer was roundly criticised at the time, in the UK at least, for a case of sour grapes but his comments ring true.

He said: "(Murray's) going to have to grind very hard for the next few years if he keeps playing this way.

"He tends to wait a lot for the mistake of the opponent. He stands way far behind on the court and that means you've got to do a lot of running.

"I gave him the mistakes today but I think overall, over a 15-year career, you want to look to win a point more often than for an opponent to miss."

The gap to the top five remains considerable, as Djokovic demonstrated - the only time Murray really threatened was when the Serb's level dropped early in the second set.

This was in contrast to the Briton's preceding match against Volandri, who invariably came up with an error in the longer rallies.

The positives still far outweigh the negatives as far as Murray is concerned - he's already been in the top 10, won five tour titles, beaten Federer twice, and is not yet 21.

And the really good news is that he has the weapons to dominate matches on any surface, with an excellent serve and return - he just needs to use them.

Plenty of people have suggested that Murray's game is too passive at the highest level, but when Federer and Djokovic agree there might be something in it.

TheSwissMaster
04-24-2008, 04:55 PM
Nadal >>>>>>>>> Murray

...on clay (and all other surfaces - but this could change).

yes thats what im talking about too as nole has shown that he is no ordinary player

RogandyFan
04-24-2008, 04:58 PM
doubt it. hewitt is a pusher with no firepower and the inability to make things happen for himself on the court so once fed got his act together and became more consistent he out powered hewitt. the djokovic-murray match up is quite different.

I was just glad it wasn't a double bagel :p Did anyone watch the match though, how was andy's attitude? Did it improve? I too highly doubt this will be a federer-hewitt match-up. Although I am sure if henin can turn her forehand into a consistent weapon, so can andy :).

Rommella
04-24-2008, 05:02 PM
Actually he will soon hit 21. Less than a month short.

Egad, so I was wrong. He's got a year then, give or take a few months.

your_valentine
04-24-2008, 05:03 PM
He's better n clay than I thought. Novak :inlove:
Andy, did you have any tactic plan today? Seems to me that no :o
Btw loved the sportsmanship from both :worship:

Okonsky
04-24-2008, 05:06 PM
Another one of those matches where I really felt Andy didn't play big occasion tennis.

Just a disappointing match from him - really allowed Djokovic to have it all his own way in the first set after the opening break in a 15 minute game. Fought better in the second but never really looked likely to do more than delay the inevitable.

Seems to me that he just doesn't know how to use his game best to combat what Novak does, and so stands in the Monfils position (drinking cocktails with the cameramen) and attempts to run all day. Novak loves you to do that, cos he's consistent and aggressive enough to win those kind of points.

Andy has a lot to think about for Rome in general, and definitely a lot of thinking to do about how he approaches Djokovic on court in future. On this evidence, he'll be handed many more lessons from the Serb unless he can work out some better strategies and excuse them on the big occasion.

Come again, please.

Okonsky
04-24-2008, 05:21 PM
Btw, expected demolition.

RagingLamb
04-24-2008, 05:23 PM
much better ground strokes by Novak. Murray did better in the second set but went away mentally near the end. And his serving sucked.

Kuhne
04-24-2008, 05:29 PM
Wow Andy Murray sucked today. I was expecting this to be the good match of the day but they all ended up being boring. Rafa's match tomorrow should Rock!

Branimir
04-24-2008, 05:31 PM
Yeah, Djokovic can play good on clay too. Last year he didn't lose to mugs on clay, he lost to very good players: Ferrer, Nadal x2, and Federer I believe.

muniu
04-24-2008, 05:36 PM
:rocker2:
Murray :wavey:

gmak
04-24-2008, 05:47 PM
nole :worship: :yeah: :drool: :devil:
should make the semis without problems

and then nalby vs nole :drool: that would be awesome!

Farenhajt
04-24-2008, 05:54 PM
Oh I love you so. You are like the Nole of MTF:inlove:

Edit: But just so you know both your excitement and subsequent disappointment are pretty incriminating:lol:

Wow, you did your homework of looking up long words... And just two smilies? I'm impressed. Keep trying, you might even grow a brain in a few years :)

Farenhajt
04-24-2008, 05:59 PM
Me too :hug: watching Djerkobitch getting schooled will make my day ;)

Oooh, after Nole schools Fed in the semis:

Fed: "My daddy is going to spank you, you bastard!"

Nole: "Who's your daddy, Roger?"

Fed: "Well... Rafa is my daddy..."

TMJordan
04-24-2008, 06:03 PM
Bagel :drool: :drool: :drool:

l_mac
04-24-2008, 06:03 PM
Yeah, Djokovic can play good on clay too. Last year he didn't lose to mugs on clay, he lost to very good players: Ferrer, Nadal x2, and Federer I believe.

Moya, not Federer.

Cat123
04-24-2008, 06:06 PM
Novak :bounce: Nicely done. He won't get past Rafa though. And may not get by Nalby/Fed. :awww:

Andy :tape: Oh dear. (Sorry, I'm the worst Brit ever!!)

groundstroke
04-24-2008, 06:09 PM
Oooh, after Nole schools Fed in the semis:

Fed: "My daddy is going to spank you, you bastard!"

Nole: "Who's your daddy, Roger?"

Fed: "Well... Rafa is my daddy..."
How old are you? 12? Grow up.

Branimir
04-24-2008, 06:12 PM
O Moya. Tnx for correcting me, I_mac.
So does Djokovic stands any chance against Nadal in the finals? :)

l_mac
04-24-2008, 06:13 PM
O Moya. Tnx for correcting me, I_mac.
You are welcome. I know a lot of you Novak fans are new to tennis, so I help where I can.
So does Djokovic stands any chance against Nadal in the finals? :)

Nadal might not make the finals.

It'll probably be Nalby vs Ferrer.

Okonsky
04-24-2008, 06:13 PM
How old are you? 12? Grow up.

He is 30+ :o

scarecrows
04-24-2008, 06:15 PM
I can't understand what is so good in Murray's game that he is considered one of the most talented young players with bright future. Can you guys explain that to me. I mean he can pull of some good shots once in awhile and that is it.

he's brit, they always need to hype some sportsmen more than deserved

Okonsky
04-24-2008, 06:20 PM
he's brit, they always need to hype some sportsmen more than deserved

They do.

Branimir
04-24-2008, 06:21 PM
You are welcome. I know a lot of you Novak fans are new to tennis, so I help where I can.

I am upset now. -.-

tennizen
04-24-2008, 06:27 PM
Wow, you did your homework of looking up long words... And just two smilies? I'm impressed. Keep trying, you might even grow a brain in a few years :)

:lol: Ok I am really trying to hold it back here but if you insult me long enough I am sure I will be motivated. Btw your post has no connection whatsoever with what I wrote, so you might want to improve your reading comprehension skills:hug:

Bascule
04-24-2008, 06:42 PM
You are welcome. I know a lot of you Novak fans are new to tennis, so I help where I can.


Nadal might not make the finals.

It'll probably be Nalby vs Ferrer.

Anyway, knowing you as a mannish woman, it's not inappropriate to ask you how old you are?:D

Bascule
04-24-2008, 06:43 PM
Oooh, after Nole schools Fed in the semis:

Fed: "My daddy is going to spank you, you bastard!"

Nole: "Who's your daddy, Roger?"

Fed: "Well... Rafa is my daddy..."

:devil:I like your kind of humor.:devil:

Alex999
04-24-2008, 06:47 PM
Anyway, knowing you as a mannish woman, it's not inappropriate to ask you how old you are?:D
:):):)
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/630/2424406841e5086cee1fgo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Okonsky
04-24-2008, 06:48 PM
:devil:I like your kind of humor.:devil:

Pffffffffff........that is funny? F. is funny, I could agree with that. But kind of humor?

Poor Captain.

bokehlicious
04-24-2008, 06:54 PM
:devil:I like your kind of humor.:devil:

Serbian humor seems soooo funny :rolleyes: just like Nole's humor :yawn: :yawn:

star_of_dusk
04-24-2008, 06:54 PM
Oh Murray :sad::sad::hug:

Bascule
04-24-2008, 06:56 PM
Pffffffffff........that is funny? F. is funny, I could agree with that. But kind of humor?

Poor Captain.

Not funny for real, but it's twist, what can be similar to funny.:devil:

Captain, me? I'm Commander for a long, long time...(promoted).;)

Lea_Linds
04-24-2008, 06:59 PM
:)

Bascule
04-24-2008, 07:00 PM
Serbian humor seems soooo funny :rolleyes: just like Nole's humor :yawn: :yawn:

Yeah, we got that "Monty Phyton" style...;)
But, you, Swiss magicians! You are the best humorists in the universe.:devil:

Okonsky
04-24-2008, 07:01 PM
Not funny for real, but it's twist, what can be similar to funny.:devil:

Captain, me? I'm Commander for a long, long time...(promoted).;)

You know what I mean :devil: woman. Captain = he.

bokehlicious
04-24-2008, 07:02 PM
Yeah, we got that "Monty Phyton" style...;)

:haha: you wish :o I wonder what your humour will look like next time the Djerk gets his arse kicked... As always you'll all vanish :yawn: :yawn:

Bascule
04-24-2008, 07:03 PM
You know what I mean :devil: woman. Captain = he.

No.:confused: Captain, who? I said once Captain to Escude. And Sawan is a Lieutenant. Faren is not an officer yet.

Bascule
04-24-2008, 07:05 PM
:haha: you wish :o I wonder what your humour will look like next time the Djerk gets his arse kicked... As always you'll all vanish :yawn: :yawn:

I've learned how to stay cool thanks to you guys.:)

Branimir
04-24-2008, 07:07 PM
Pussy Antonius strikes again -.-
Well Djokovic tried to be funny today. He wanted Murray to think that he can get that second set. Murray believed him. What an idiot.

yohaneuano4
04-24-2008, 07:20 PM
Corretja failed him, nothing more, nothing less

Alex999
04-24-2008, 07:23 PM
Murray should rehire Brad Gilbert.

Albop
04-24-2008, 07:23 PM
murray :retard:

what a mug

Björki
04-24-2008, 07:31 PM
Nole :worship:

dodoboy
04-24-2008, 07:34 PM
Pathetic. He serves like a girl.

The only GIRL that serves this bad is Dementieva :p

Alex999
04-24-2008, 07:35 PM
The only GIRL that serves this bad is Dementieva :p
:lol::lol:

l_mac
04-24-2008, 07:41 PM
Anyway, knowing you as a mannish woman, it's not inappropriate to ask you how old you are?:D
:confused:

Let's just say I've been watching tennis since Laver was a tot :D
Murray should rehire Brad Gilbert.

Maybe he should :sobbing:

Byrd
04-24-2008, 07:49 PM
Djokovic played very good, and Murray was meh.

Andy has too many flaws in his game at the moment to challenge for big titles.

Nathaliia
04-24-2008, 07:51 PM
Haha, not sure which scoreline is funnier, this or Boredo's :p.

As much as I feel unwell writing that, Djoko is class tennis.

Bascule
04-24-2008, 07:58 PM
:confused:
Let's just say I've been watching tennis since Laver was a tot :D

Laver was the U.S. junior champion in 1956 and the Australian junior champion in 1957. :confused:

Tommy fan
04-24-2008, 08:02 PM
That was pathetic Murray :o :tape: :help:

Nice last 2 points :yeah:

Vida
04-24-2008, 08:14 PM
:confused:

Let's just say I've been watching tennis since Laver was a tot :D

... and that doesn't cure blindness when you root for murray... nothing wrong with that, i was firmly pulling for Novak at Dubai, not to mention, Miami.

anyway, I cant remember Djokovic playing cleaner set. maybe against Waw at Vienna 07 finals second set. he was cruising. and i don't believe that Andy choked, remember he is very quick - even on clay. but that wasn't enough. there was no salvation!

actually, re-hireing Brad Gilbert is in the worst case scenario only option, but unfortunately hard to happen. Both characters are big egos, and since they left each other in bad mood its unlikely to happen. I say 'only option' because what he needs now is more of a mental help than technique or fitness, and something like that must come from 'outer source'. The nagging, obsessive BG looks like that kind a person. Just look at Andys box during todays match, all gloom and doom. Even when crowd cheered him on in the second set. It was mute.

Anyway, enough about poor and unfortunate Mr. Murray, how about rich and prosperous Mr. Djokovic. The difference in class was for all to be see. I wont jack much about talent, but whoever thinks Murray can reach that variety, force and consistency is ... unfortunately misled.

I was stunned with what Novak did in the first set. what was it 14-4 winners, what? serving? he ate murrays second serves for lunch. and the forehand - insane. actually, both dtl shots are destructive and when clicking (and it looks like its normal to 'click') i dont see defence anainst it. Also BH dtl but shot from the middle of the baseline returning murrays slices... i see none doing.

A word of caution to Djokovics opponents ---- pass the ball AWAY from him!

rocketassist
04-24-2008, 08:24 PM
I have to laugh at the Serbian clowns who think they know tennis since Novak arrived on the scene. :haha:

bokehlicious
04-24-2008, 08:25 PM
I have to laugh at the Serbian clowns who think they know tennis since Novak arrived on the scene. :haha:

Amusing indeed :)

Vida
04-24-2008, 08:28 PM
I have to laugh at the Serbian clowns who think they know tennis since Novak arrived on the scene. :haha:

try not to choke!

tangerine_dream
04-24-2008, 09:55 PM
Gotta love the British press:

Defeat signals progress of sorts for Scot :spit:
The Herald, UK 

Beaten Andy Murray remains a pretender on clay
Times Online, UK

Andy Murray suffers heavy loss to Djokovic
Telegraph.co.uk, United Kingdom

Timid Murray taken to the cleaners in Monte Carlo by Djokovic
This is London, UK

Djokovic destroys Murray
TeleText, UK

Djokovic powers past meek Murray
guardian.co.uk, UK

"Looks like the Valencia virus is still lingering inside Andy."

"This is a moment for Murray. Either he's going to stay with Djokovic or their careers are permanently diverging."

"I remember the first time Djoko beat Murray I thought it was a bad sign; never let a contemporary get the upper hand (see Sampras v Agassi)."

finishingmove
04-24-2008, 10:06 PM
Gotta love the British press:
Beaten Andy Murray remains a pretender on clay
Times Online,*UK

Timid Murray taken to the cleaners in Monte Carlo by Djokovic
This is London,*UK

Djokovic destroys Murray
TeleText,*UK

"Looks like the Valencia virus is still lingering inside Andy."

"I remember the first time Djoko beat Murray I thought it was a bad sign; never let a contemporary get the upper hand (see Sampras v Agassi)."

LOL

Scotso
04-24-2008, 10:42 PM
Nole :yeah:

camnation
04-24-2008, 10:45 PM
Nole! :yeah:

stebs
04-24-2008, 10:50 PM
"Looks like the Valencia virus is still lingering inside Andy."

"This is a moment for Murray. Either he's going to stay with Djokovic or their careers are permanently diverging."

"I remember the first time Djoko beat Murray I thought it was a bad sign; never let a contemporary get the upper hand (see Sampras v Agassi)."

I wouldn't call people posting on the BBC message board 'British Press'.

Deivid23
04-24-2008, 10:53 PM
Too good from Nole :yeah:

Alex999
04-24-2008, 10:54 PM
wow, here is a great shot from today's match (Novak vs. Andy).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxdtTgCclIU
vxdtTgCclIU

krystlel
04-24-2008, 11:54 PM
I expected Djokovic to win pretty comfortably and that's what happened. Poor of Murray to hand the match away with 2 consecutive double faults.

I'm getting a bit disappointed that Murray doesn't seem to play with as much variety as he used to (aside from the dropshots). Before when he used to play defensively he would still throw in a lot of different spins and angles. Or at least that's what it looks like to me. I used to think of him as a bit of a junkballer.

Alex999
04-25-2008, 12:03 AM
I expected Djokovic to win pretty comfortably and that's what happened. Poor of Murray to hand the match away with 2 consecutive double faults.

I'm getting a bit disappointed that Murray doesn't seem to play with as much variety as he used to (aside from the dropshots). Before when he used to play defensively he would still throw in a lot of different spins and angles. Or at least that's what it looks like to me. I used to think of him as a bit of a junkballer.
To be honest with you I expected Djokovic to win too but not 6:0 6:4. Murray always plays so well against Federer and Nadal, but for some reason he is struggling with Novak every time they play. I think it's mental, Murray seems to be so weak against Novak.

HeretiC
04-25-2008, 12:19 AM
Novak :bounce: Nicely done. He won't get past Rafa though. And may not get by Nalby/Fed. :awww:Andy :tape: Oh dear. (Sorry, I'm the worst Brit ever!!)

If it is Fed he is already in finals, if it is Dave it might get tricky... He ain't beating Rafa for sure. Probably the best final might be Nalby-Rafa cause there is obviously a match up issue involved.

Marek.
04-25-2008, 12:23 AM
Not surprising really. Murray sucks against his own generation.

Farenhajt
04-25-2008, 12:48 AM
If it is Fed he is already in finals, if it is Dave it might get tricky... He ain't beating Rafa for sure. Probably the best final might be Nalby-Rafa cause there is obviously a match up issue involved.

He most probably ain't beating Rafa, but the matchup would require of him to bring his best tennis out, and that would be so nice to watch.

leng jai
04-25-2008, 01:34 AM
Nina :hug:

NinaNina19
04-25-2008, 02:41 AM
Nina :hug:
:sobbing:

camnation
04-25-2008, 02:58 AM
I just want to say bring it on Djokotards.
It has been brought.
:sobbing:
:D
(Too cruel?)

NinaNina19
04-25-2008, 03:04 AM
It has been brought.

:D
(Too cruel?)It's OK, Djokovic was better today :hug: . I can accept defeat. If only Murray has played decently and made it competitive.

Aloimeh
04-25-2008, 03:07 AM
It's OK, Djokovic was better today :hug: . I can accept defeat. If only Murray has played decently and made it competitive.

I won't gloat because I think Murray gets way too much bashing here and he seems to be a decent person, especially towards Novak. I hope Murray sorts out his game and his coaching issues - he does need to be more aggressive, even on clay.

Branimir
04-25-2008, 04:21 AM
It's ok. Andy might have lost, but he is still better boyfriend than Novak.

Corey Feldman
04-26-2008, 04:43 PM
'Grats Nole

thx for taking out the Scottish Fed-Killa so you could bomb in the Semis :wavey:

Sunset of Age
04-26-2008, 05:34 PM
'Grats Nole

thx for taking out the Scottish Fed-Killa so you could bomb in the Semis :wavey:

:haha: :yeah:

NinaNina19
04-26-2008, 05:52 PM
It's ok. Andy might have lost, but he is still better boyfriend than Novak.:yeah:

Corey Feldman
04-05-2009, 09:58 PM
Djokovic is Murray's worse nightmare!not anymore :D

:lol::lol::lol::haha::haha::haha::spit::spit::spit ::rolls::rolls::rolls:

This certainly answers the "Who's the most overhyped" question. At least Gasquet has a slam semi and couple of tms finals and Berdych has a tms title.how funny this one... especially the Gasquet part
:haha:

I was SO wrong...as a future #1, Novak needs a Raggedy Andy to play with...like a cat with a ball of yarn...

Roger has the Duck. Novak's found one in Murray.ORLY :D

Nole totally fucks up Andy again. :lol: I laughed at the bagel, I got flashbacks of Brad Gilbert flipping out and screaming at Andy in the stands that day in Miami last year when Nole went medieval on ol' Snagglepuss.

Nole, you barbarian, take it easy on your underling.yeah , must be "taking it easy on him" thesedays eh :haha:

No comment necessary whatsoever.

Talent? :haha:

Dedicated to NinaNina19 aka "Murray is Djokovic's main rival"
Dedicated to Escude aka "Some day... some day..."
And to all Squarekilt worshippers who think he's worth more than a rat shit

:worship:... today
:D

Gotta love the British press:

"I remember the first time Djoko beat Murray I thought it was a bad sign; never let a contemporary get the upper hand (see Sampras v Agassi).":D

Clydey
04-05-2009, 10:00 PM
not anymore :D

how funny this one... especially the Gasquet part
:haha:

ORLY :D

yeah , must be "taking it easy on him" thesedays eh :haha:

... today
:D

:D

Brilliant. :haha:

~*BGT*~
04-05-2009, 10:01 PM
This is so sad. :rolleyes:

Bazooka
04-05-2009, 10:02 PM
Lame bump, he just won a Masters 1000, please!

Clydey
04-05-2009, 10:04 PM
Lame bump, he just won a Masters 1000, please!

I think it has more to do with the bragging over Nole's superiority to Murray. Bit of vindication for Mikey's prophetic "some day...some day" comment.

richie21
04-05-2009, 10:05 PM
This is so sad. :rolleyes:

Not as sad as Gasquet's results since that match.

Corey Feldman
04-05-2009, 10:06 PM
Not as sad as Gasquet's results since that match.:haha:

scoobs
04-05-2009, 10:07 PM
I hate the gloating though.
No need for it. What goes around comes around.

Nole has shown, you don't know what's around the corner.

This time next year Nole could be back on top of the world, and Andy could have an injury, he could be having his own crisis of confidence...you just don't know what's next so it doesn't pay to be smug.

nastoff
04-05-2009, 10:10 PM
Pointless bump of an ancient thread. At that time last year Djokovic was beating Murray left and right and the Scot hadn't done enough to not deserve the title of "overhyped"; in addition to that he was just coming off a long period of injury and then lack of fitness where he was performing pretty poorly. A lot of things have happened since then, Murray is indeed the most improved player of the tour in the last 12 months.

Corey Feldman
04-05-2009, 10:13 PM
I hate the gloating though.
No need for it. What goes around comes around.

Nole has shown, you don't know what's around the corner.

This time next year Nole could be back on top of the world, and Andy could have an injury, he could be having his own crisis of confidence...you just don't know what's next so it doesn't pay to be smug... by this time next year you'll have jumped ship to next newest thing on the scene as you've done several times already in the last 4 years from what ive heard

:lol:

rocketassist
04-05-2009, 10:14 PM
It's called banter scoobs and to be fair the Djokovic fanbase has taken it on the chin, as I'm sure the reverse would be the case.

scoobs
04-05-2009, 10:19 PM
.. by this time next year you'll have jumped ship to next newest thing on the scene as you've done several times already in the last 4 years from what ive heard

:lol:
you heard wrong then.

Corey Feldman
04-05-2009, 10:20 PM
what goes around comes around/smug stuff

pure nonsense, who the f cares :lol:

this thread will be closed soon anyway, FUN had :D

BrutalLogiC
04-05-2009, 10:21 PM
Quality bump although you could have quoted a few more belters in this thread

scoobs
04-05-2009, 10:22 PM
close. what a good idea.