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Roger fights, slides and beats Ruben Ramirez Hidalgo 61 36 76!!!

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Frederick16
04-23-2008, 01:29 PM
Roger hit 100 unforced erros RRH 2 winners. It was the worst match of the career of Roger i think, it was hurting my eyes. But he was fighting soooooo hard!! 2 5 down third set.. He kept sliding all over the court playing an attacking game. Still some horrendous missing shots but also some great volleys and slices. The crowd was chearing him so much! Roger can be proud of himself. But this shows he needs to keep working very hard the next month will he be able to do something at RG. What i liked very much was the spirit of Roger, he didnt whined anytime, and when he was far behind he was only cheering himself and pumping up. He screamed many 'Come ons!!!' And for everyone who thinks Ruben choked. It wasnt a choke. Roger was the deciding factor in the whole match. He decided the points. An winner or a error...

LocoPorElTenis
04-23-2008, 01:29 PM
Lucky one Federer :rolls:

RRH was up 4-0* and 5-1* in the third and served for the match twice :help: . Granted, Roger started to play better but RRH was simply awful when it was time to close the deal. A fine choking performance indeed which will go down in the history books.

adee-gee
04-23-2008, 01:29 PM
Outrageous choke :retard:

Led 5-1, had *30-15 both times he served for the match.

W!MBLEDON
04-23-2008, 01:29 PM
http://i3.iofferphoto.com/img/item/160/438/11/TWILIGHT.jpg

what i just witnessed was wrong on so many levels.

federer came back from 1-5 *15-30 in final set, ramirez hidalgo was, if i'm not mistaken, 5-4 *30-15 up and double faulted at break point in that game to let roger level it at 5-5

so umm... yeah. not really sure what to say about this... but a w is a w i guess... :unsure: he shouldn't have even been down a break to a player like ramirez hidalgo let alone two points away from defeat, but oh well.

monfils up next... :scared:

1ST SERVE %
Federer 61%
Ramirez Hidalgo 55%

ACES
Federer 5
Ramirez Hidalgo 2

DOUBLE FAULTS
Federer 3
Ramirez Hidalgo 8

1ST SERVE % WON
Federer 68%
Ramirez Hidalgo 65%

2ND SERVE % WON
Federer 54%
Ramirez Hidalgo 43%

WINNERS
Federer 37
Ramirez Hidalgo 15

UNFORCED ERRORS
Federer 54
Ramirez Hidalgo 39

BREAK POINTS WON
Federer 4/7
Ramirez Hidalgo 3/7

TOTAL POINTS WON
Federer 103
Ramirez Hidalgo 90

MATCH TIME
2hrs 3mins 46secs

TMJordan
04-23-2008, 01:29 PM
Rogi, you're my hero :tears:

Action Jackson
04-23-2008, 01:30 PM
Never in doubt, he did it for the Monegasque fans.

finishingmove
04-23-2008, 01:30 PM
spectacular choke

Allegretto
04-23-2008, 01:30 PM
Hidalgo is a giant, spectacular, epic mug. Served for it twice and didn't manage a match point. :spit:

Farenhajt
04-23-2008, 01:30 PM
It's so sweet to see he's falling apart. No way he's gonna be a factor in the later rounds of MC - upcoming opps already tasted his blood and won't be overwhelmed by the prospect of demolishing him.

scoobs
04-23-2008, 01:30 PM
It wasn't Roger on court.

The one with the carbunkle on his face is Roger's brother, Houdini Federer.

rafa_maniac
04-23-2008, 01:30 PM
I don't know which is more ridiculous, Roger's form at the moment, or the fact that for the most part he is allowed to get away with this suckage time and time again...

Renaud
04-23-2008, 01:30 PM
Phew...

Frederick16
04-23-2008, 01:30 PM
spectacular choke

i think you didnt saw it live?

bokehlicious
04-23-2008, 01:31 PM
RG is a lock for Roger :cool:

Voo de Mar
04-23-2008, 01:31 PM
Incredible :eek:

RRH lost this match at *5:2 (30-15) when his "choking" forehand from comfortable position landed on out :devil:

Lleyt2Berate
04-23-2008, 01:31 PM
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Deathless Mortal
04-23-2008, 01:32 PM
Fed :haha:

RRH is #137 btw, and was losing to players with a worst ranking than his a lot easier.
This reminds me a lot of the Ancic-RRH match in Rome 2006 when Mario came back from 1-5 0-30 down in the third.

Rogiman
04-23-2008, 01:32 PM
:help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:

Good win from the mental point of view though.

W!MBLEDON
04-23-2008, 01:32 PM
oh yeahhh, it has my title :cool: lmfao

Ozon
04-23-2008, 01:32 PM
Roger hit 100 unforced erros RRH 2 winners. It was the worst match of the career of Roger i think, it was hurting my eyes. But he was fighting soooooo hard!! 2 5 down third set.. He kept sliding all over the court playing an attacking game. Still some horrendous missing shots but also some great volleys and slices. The crowd was chearing him so much! Roger can be proud of himself. But this shows he needs to keep working very hard the next month will he be able to do something at RG. What i liked very much was the spirit of Roger, he didnt whined anytime, and when he was far behind he was only cheering himself and pumping up. He screamed many 'Come ons!!!' And for everyone who thinks Ruben choked. It wasnt a choke. Roger was the deciding factor in the whole match. He decided the points. An winner or a error...

If you can't hold serve twice and don't make any point with your own serve in a tiebreak, I think it can be seen as a choke!

RogiRafaFan86
04-23-2008, 01:32 PM
You know it's bad when the most common response to your wins are: A win is a win. Or some version of that...

Oh dear, Roger. That wasn't as much of a comeback as it was a nuclear meltdown by your opponent. That's not good at all.

It worked today, and sometimes last week...

But against any top player who has even half a clue....

Rogiman
04-23-2008, 01:32 PM
:help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:

Good win from the mental point of view though.

alansk
04-23-2008, 01:32 PM
RRH did a similar thing against Ancic Rome 2006 :o (ah DM beat me to it :yeah:)

Roland9
04-23-2008, 01:32 PM
:haha:

dijus
04-23-2008, 01:33 PM
thanks for efforts, Ruben. Proud of You anyway :yeah:

AsianSensation
04-23-2008, 01:33 PM
100 UE? Seriously?

BodyServe
04-23-2008, 01:33 PM
How can you ask a guy with a Dementieva like serve to close out a match?

scarecrows
04-23-2008, 01:33 PM
this is sparta

Kuhne
04-23-2008, 01:33 PM
Lets just pretend this was a Nadal match with the same result.


GREAT FIGHT! SPARTANNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! "comes out of the closset"

TheBoiledEgg
04-23-2008, 01:33 PM
just what the doctor ordered
only saw it from 1-5 in 3rd and Roger must have been pretty shit before.

at least he didnt give up like a gimp

Mr Brightside
04-23-2008, 01:34 PM
RRH was twice 2 points away from the win.
Roger played a bad match:( at least some good play on key moments...

Frederick16
04-23-2008, 01:34 PM
If you can't hold serve twice and don't make any point with your own serve in a tiebreak, I think it can be seen as a choke!

so when somebody walks around his backhand on a good kick serve to hit a clean forehand winner long the line on clay that is called choking! ohhhhh now i get it finally ;)

W!MBLEDON
04-23-2008, 01:34 PM
i'll post match stats once ceremony thingy is over

Medina
04-23-2008, 01:34 PM
wtf..

when it was 30-30 worst shot slection if seen for RRH. jsut let fed get that point

your_valentine
04-23-2008, 01:35 PM
I love you Roger but this was the saddest match I've ever seen of you :help: At some stages of the match, all Hidalgo had to do was to get the ball back and Federer did the job :help: Please get your act together Fed. Credit for coming back, though.

finishingmove
04-23-2008, 01:36 PM
i think you didnt saw it live?

i did , and it was sad how hidalgo threw it away. federer was his pawn but everything went downhill after that shot between the legs

Corey Feldman
04-23-2008, 01:37 PM
slump slump slump

bet you were counting that v-cash Adam .. but tough luck :D :wavey:

nanoman
04-23-2008, 01:37 PM
What a j/choke.

It took a huuge choke from Dementialgo before Fed finally woke up.

keroni
04-23-2008, 01:37 PM
never in doubt.

just getting the match practice..

Blue Heart24
04-23-2008, 01:37 PM
****en Chokirez Mugidalgo :retard:

Spectacular choke.Federer is so lucky with these that its undescribeable.:rolleyes:

Slasher
04-23-2008, 01:38 PM
There is no God.

Ozon
04-23-2008, 01:38 PM
so when somebody walks around his backhand on a good kick serve to hit a clean forehand winner long the line on clay that is called choking! ohhhhh now i get it finally ;)

What about serve variety? ;)

Adler
04-23-2008, 01:39 PM
this is sparta
you bet :)

juninhOH
04-23-2008, 01:39 PM
ahahha what a SPETACULAR choke!!!

man i was fucking mad on the couch, "c'mon roger!!!!!!!!" and all he did do was mistakes.

when he lost his 2nd serve game on 3rd roudn (making it 0-3) I thought to myself "damn his confidence is faaaaaaar away from here". I really couldn't imagine Ramirez would let him come back. What a choke, really. Well, these are the benefits of building a name like Roger Federer

juninhOH
04-23-2008, 01:39 PM
ahahha what a SPETACULAR choke!!!

man i was fucking mad on the couch, "c'mon roger!!!!!!!!" and all he did do was mistakes.

when he lost his 2nd serve game on 3rd roudn (making it 0-3) I thought to myself "damn his confidence is faaaaaaar away from here". I really couldn't imagine Ramirez would let him come back. What a choke, really. Well, these are the benefits of building a name like Roger Federer

zicofirol
04-23-2008, 01:39 PM
no choke federer just started playing again... Its great federer won, it woudl of been a tragedy to see boredo advance past the 3rd round...

adee-gee
04-23-2008, 01:40 PM
And for everyone who thinks Ruben choked. It wasnt a choke.
:haha: :haha: :haha:

alfonsojose
04-23-2008, 01:40 PM
Uranus Federeva vs. Rubena Hidalgova :tape: such an ugly, WTA style match :o

ReturnWinner
04-23-2008, 01:40 PM
of course Federer fought very well and hard to come back but this is was a choke.

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 01:41 PM
Absymal performance from Roger as soon as he won that first set. Hidalgo had that match on his racket - handed to him on a silver plate because of all of Roger's UEs -54!!! :eek: :speakles: :mad:

Roger suddenly didn't make the UEs anymore being 5-2 down - and escaped like Houdini with an angel on his shoulders...

Undeserved win, to say the least.

krystlel
04-23-2008, 01:41 PM
Tons of cheap errors from Federer which could have easily been avoided and a bit annoying for me that he was able to get away with it. Puzzling why it took him so long to tighten up his game and really it was only after Ramirez Hidalgo started showing signs of nerves that Federer picked it up at 5-3 in the third set.

Tommy fan
04-23-2008, 01:42 PM
Wow..
Fed avtually played a lot better from 5-2 or 5-1, but a little more decent player won't give him that chance to get a rythem.. :shrug:
Nice comeback anyway

elessar
04-23-2008, 01:42 PM
:rolls: Roger what a performance :worship: you mental giant :bowdown:

RRH :hug:

Lleyton_
04-23-2008, 01:42 PM
It's so sweet to see he's falling apart. No way he's gonna be a factor in the later rounds of MC - upcoming opps already tasted his blood and won't be overwhelmed by the prospect of demolishing him.

Life must have been so hard for you the past four years :spit:

alfonsojose
04-23-2008, 01:43 PM
JesusFed is walking around his backhand every single point, hitting avergae or weak forehands. It's getting ridiculous :o

zcess81
04-23-2008, 01:45 PM
:haha::haha::haha::haha:

eck
04-23-2008, 01:47 PM
:lol: Chokedalgo :rolls:

scoobs
04-23-2008, 01:48 PM
I miss Roger :(

bluefork
04-23-2008, 01:48 PM
Come on, let's be objective here. Ramirez Hidalgo should never have been up 5-1 in the first place. Federer was absolute trash in the second and first half of the third set. All RRH had to do was get the ball in the court and Federer would give him an UE. At 5-1 Federer started to clean his game up, and RRH with his limited game, couldn't do much else. It was hardly a choke from Hidalgo, so much as it was Federer picking up his game up off the bottom of the barrel.

Also, did anyone else notice that Federer was sweating unusually much for him?

zcess81
04-23-2008, 01:48 PM
:rolls: Roger what a performance :worship: you mental giant :bowdown:

RRH :hug:

More like what a crappy performance from mental midget Hidalgo. Any decent player would have had Fed for lunch today.

jasmin
04-23-2008, 01:49 PM
I'm surprised Roger is even playing. He must think he has the energy. Good luck my man.

Shabazza
04-23-2008, 01:51 PM
Absymal performance from Roger as soon as he won that first set. Hidalgo had that match on his racket - handed to him on a silver plate because of all of Roger's UEs -54!!! :eek: :speakles: :mad:

Roger suddenly didn't make the UEs anymore being 5-2 down - and escaped like Houdini with an angel on his shoulders...

Undeserved win, to say the least.

Did RHH have MP?! Did RHH have more points than Federer at the end of the match or more winners?!
No.
It wasn't a pretty match. In fact, it was an ugly slugfest out there, but an undeserved win for Federer it was not.
You desreve the win when you can come back from 1*:5 15:30, period. I'm actually proud of Federer, who wouldn't fade away like he did against Volandri last year. He stayed positive and fought till the end.
He's not in form, but we knew that for quite some time now. Still, he's here having won Estoril and came back from the brink of defeat still giving himself a chance to improve.

anon57
04-23-2008, 01:52 PM
:help::speakles: I can't believe Fed got away with that

Pea
04-23-2008, 01:52 PM
I think anyone that loses a match like this should be considered a choke, no matter if you're playing the GOAT. Poor Ruben! Roger.:D

Lleyton_
04-23-2008, 01:52 PM
More like what a crappy performance from mental midget Hidalgo. Any decent player would have had Fed for lunch today.

Why are you so upset? :awww: :sad:

Rogiman
04-23-2008, 01:53 PM
Life must have been so hard for you the past four years :spit:He hadn't even been remotedly interested in tennis before his countryman started winning.

Shabazza
04-23-2008, 01:53 PM
Come on, let's be objective here. Ramirez Hidalgo should never have been up 5-1 in the first place. Federer was absolute trash in the second and first half of the third set. All RRH had to do was get the ball in the court and Federer would give him an UE. At 5-1 Federer started to clean his game up, and RRH with his limited game, couldn't do much else. It was hardly a choke from Hidalgo, so much as it was Federer picking up his game up off the bottom of the barrel.

Also, did anyone else notice that Federer was sweating unusually much for him?

Agreed.

W!MBLEDON
04-23-2008, 01:53 PM
stats are in third or fourth post of thread

bokehlicious
04-23-2008, 01:54 PM
:haha: :haha: you gotta love Noletards and Rafatards bitterness :drool: :inlove: priceless :cool:

yanchr
04-23-2008, 01:54 PM
Come on, let's be objective here. Ramirez Hidalgo should never have been up 5-1 in the first place. Federer was absolute trash in the second and first half of the third set. All RRH had to do was get the ball in the court and Federer would give him an UE. At 5-1 Federer started to clean his game up, and RRH with his limited game, couldn't do much else. It was hardly a choke from Hidalgo, so much as it was Federer picking up his game up off the bottom of the barrel.
I agree with everything, but still it was a choke. Those DFs ...:help:

Roger in the 2nd and up to 1:5 in the 3rd :help::help::help: I was having a very hard time to force myself to believe that he would actually lose to RRH :tape:

Anyway, well fought Roger...

Aloimeh
04-23-2008, 01:56 PM
Also, did anyone else notice that Federer was sweating unusually much for him?

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Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 01:56 PM
Come on, let's be objective here. Ramirez Hidalgo should never have been up 5-1 in the first place. Federer was absolute trash in the second and first half of the third set. All RRH had to do was get the ball in the court and Federer would give him an UE. At 5-1 Federer started to clean his game up, and RRH with his limited game, couldn't do much else. It was hardly a choke from Hidalgo, so much as it was Federer picking up his game up off the bottom of the barrel.

Well said. That is exactly what happened.

Also, did anyone else notice that Federer was sweating unusually much for him?

Yes, he looked as if he just returned from the shower during the match. But I've seen if more often lately - to it's a sign that he's still far from 100%.

yuiwer
04-23-2008, 01:57 PM
You did it!!!! :worship::worship::worship:

rosamunda
04-23-2008, 01:58 PM
Peter Fleming on Sky Sports said something like "for those who think Hidlago choked, he didn't", and I agree with him. He played the tennis of his life until, perhaps, the tiebreak and Federer, after playing like sh*t for most of the 2nd and 3rd sets, suddenly started to play much better. Having missed a gazillion FHs, he suddenly found his range again, and that was that. He fought like crazy and I, for one, admire him tremendously for that. So many people on here say he's gutless when he gets into a hole - well, I think not after that.

rofe
04-23-2008, 01:58 PM
:haha: :haha: you gotta love Noletards and Rafatards bitterness :drool: :inlove: priceless :cool:

True. If Novak or Nadal had won it this way, there would be 100s of "spartan" threads.

Anyway, glad I didn't watch the match.

Aloimeh
04-23-2008, 01:58 PM
:haha: :haha: you gotta love Noletards and Rafatards bitterness :drool: :inlove: priceless :cool:

Bitterness over what?!?! Over the fact that neither Novak nor Rafa have been playing this sh!tty probably in months if not years? Federer is currently utter trash. The fact that you think this is some amazing victory against a patentable choker (c'mon 5-1 30-15 or whatever that ridiculous score was) and #133 to boot shows just how delusional you truly are.

bokehlicious
04-23-2008, 01:58 PM
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:haha: :hug: face it, a fit Fed never loses to the likes of Nole :awww: :hug:

elessar
04-23-2008, 01:58 PM
More like what a crappy performance from mental midget Hidalgo. Any decent player would have had Fed for lunch today.

Until you learn to spot sarcasm I refuse to have a conversation with you :(

Slasher
04-23-2008, 01:59 PM
Did RHH have MP?! Did RHH have more points than Federer at the end of the match or more winners?!
No.


So? Federer started to play better only after Hidalgo got nervous. Massive choke.

elessar
04-23-2008, 01:59 PM
Bitterness over what?!?! Over the fact that neither Novak nor Rafa have been playing this sh!tty probably in months if not years? Federer is currently utter trash. The fact that you think this is some amazing victory against a patentable choker (c'mon 5-1 30-15 or whatever that ridiculous score was) and #133 to boot shows just how delusional you truly are.
The loss to Anderson still hurts :awww:

bokehlicious
04-23-2008, 02:00 PM
Bitterness over what?!?! Over the fact that neither Novak nor Rafa have been playing this sh!tty probably in months if not years? Federer is currently utter trash. The fact that you think this is some amazing victory against a patentable choker (c'mon 5-1 30-15 or whatever that ridiculous score was) and #133 to boot shows just how delusional you truly are.

Roger plays like shit, you're right, you should rejoice and not whine about it :shrug: :confused:

HNCS
04-23-2008, 02:00 PM
Well said. That is exactly what happened.



Yes, he looked as if he just returned from the shower during the match. But I've seen if more often lately - to it's a sign that he's still far from 100%.

agreed. i always like your posts.:)

alfonsojose
04-23-2008, 02:00 PM
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So ...
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Stop playing then comeback when you're healthy playing with your health losing confidence

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 02:02 PM
Did RHH have MP?! Did RHH have more points than Federer at the end of the match or more winners?!
No.
It wasn't a pretty match. In fact, it was an ugly slugfest out there, but an undeserved win for Federer it was not.
You desreve the win when you can come back from 1*:5 15:30, period.

A matter of definition I guess. My expression 'undeserved' might be harsh, but fact is that RHH let him escape in the end - indeed, due to Fed's fighting and him managing to finally cut down that enormous number of UE's of his - but RHH should've killed him off before that.
Fed surely deserves credits for that - and also for keeping his cool I might add. Still, this was a shocking match for all to see, and anyone should agree that he should not have let RHH even get anywhere near the victory...

bokehlicious
04-23-2008, 02:03 PM
This mono stuff is BS from beginning to end

Dijana told you so?

Kolya
04-23-2008, 02:03 PM
Hilarious Federer...

Kuhne
04-23-2008, 02:03 PM
Indeed this game was a choke, by Fed that is, the man was winning 6-1 and then choked away the match. luckily he managed to win it

Rogiman
04-23-2008, 02:03 PM
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Aloimeh
04-23-2008, 02:05 PM
The loss to Anderson still hurts :awww:

Not really. Only if you're claiming that Roger's having a letdown from winning almighty Estoril. Or is Estoril = Indian Wells now just because holy Roger won it?

Aloimeh
04-23-2008, 02:08 PM
Get a life.

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bokehlicious
04-23-2008, 02:09 PM
Not really. Only if you're claiming that Roger's having a letdown from winning almighty Estoril. Or is Estoril = Indian Wells now just because holy Roger won it?

So it was a tank on purpose by Nole in Miami? The guy's already too big to bother showing up in TMS?

bokehlicious
04-23-2008, 02:09 PM
Someone please ban this Aloimeh tool.

Thanks.

Bilbo
04-23-2008, 02:09 PM
lucky one for roger

he can't hope for his opponents to choke every time like this time. his mental advantage is the only thing which keeps him at #1 these days

anyway his decline continues

Rogiman
04-23-2008, 02:10 PM
Not really. Only if you're claiming that Roger's having a letdown from winning almighty Estoril. Or is Estoril = Indian Wells now just because holy Roger won it?Stop being a clown. You will struggle to find a single Federer fan (or any other tennis fan - one that has been following tennis for more than 6 months unlike you) that will tell you Federer played well today so what is your point other than trolling?

ZakMcCrack
04-23-2008, 02:10 PM
Well then, he played like shit...but anyway, if you don't care about him, why do you always have to point it out - do you think that all of his fans are thus blindfolds that they cannot distinguish whether he's been playing good or bad? Go collect signatures for an initiative against Federer - hang him, hang him!

jasmin
04-23-2008, 02:10 PM
I always compliment Nadal for being one of the best fighters out there but it's obvious that no matter how bad Fed's playing he can fight just as hard. People seem to admire that in players like nadal, serena, venus and sharapova. These players have to fight sometimes and to me that's a sign of a champion. Why not Roger. I think it was unbelievable for him to come back like that after playing way off his game. I know he's usually up but now we are seeing a fighter...now that he seems to have the energy.

Aloimeh
04-23-2008, 02:12 PM
So it was a tank on purpose by Nole in Miami? The guy's already too big to bother showing up in TMS?

No, dimwit, he was probably on a high from winning AO and IW and underestimated Anderson. Roger was just playing his usual 2008 sh!t (which got him a title in Estoril :eek:, albeit Donkey probably retired at the "request" of Pigka Hogrinec c/o Russian mafia) and won this MC mugmatch due to the #133 autochoking to death.

Lleyton_
04-23-2008, 02:13 PM
He hadn't even been remotedly interested in tennis before his countryman started winning.

Oh I see. Because it's not possible to be a knowledgeable tennis fan and a Federer hater at the same time.

MIMIC
04-23-2008, 02:15 PM
Good Lord, Roger.

Snowwy
04-23-2008, 02:16 PM
I actually expected Roger to lose this one..took RRH in suicide tennis, so close.

elessar
04-23-2008, 02:17 PM
Not really. Only if you're claiming that Roger's having a letdown from winning almighty Estoril. Or is Estoril = Indian Wells now just because holy Roger won it?

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No, dimwit, he was probably on a high from winning AO and IW and underestimated Anderson. Roger was just playing his usual 2008 sh!t (which got him a title in Estoril :eek:, albeit Donkey probably retired at the "request" of Pigka Hogrinec c/o Russian mafia) and won this MC mugmatch due to the #133 autochoking to death.
:rolls:
Alo I sense too much anger in you :awww:

Rogiman
04-23-2008, 02:19 PM
Oh I see. Because it's not possible to be a knowledgeable tennis fan and a Federer hater at the same time.I can't see what the response has to do with the comment.

jasmin
04-23-2008, 02:20 PM
People are really pissed that Roger didn't lose.:lol:

How in the world did Roger win that playing so badly. Well his fight won that match and that's what champions do when they know they are playing like crap.

Farenhajt
04-23-2008, 02:22 PM
Also, did anyone else notice that Federer was sweating unusually much for him?

Yup, rumour has it he has an acute case of mumps (TBA during Wimby), which showed as a carbunkle on his genetically dislocated salivary gland.

~*BGT*~
04-23-2008, 02:23 PM
:eek: Oh my!

rosamunda
04-23-2008, 02:24 PM
People are really pissed that Roger didn't lose.:lol:

Aren't they just!:D

Farenhajt
04-23-2008, 02:26 PM
He hadn't even been remotedly interested in tennis before his countryman started winning.

You mean my countryman Seles? Well, before her there were Navratilova, Lendl, Becker, Sampras... many characters I liked to watch.

But of course, until you punch your card in MTF, you don't exist as a tennis fan :haha: :retard:

Lleyton_
04-23-2008, 02:29 PM
I can't see what the response has to do with the comment.

Translation = He is not a tennis fan.

Rogiman
04-23-2008, 02:31 PM
Translation = He is not a tennis fan.True.
All he's been doing since his arrival is trolling - not a fan in my book.

And how exactly does that translate to "Federer Hater != Tennis Fan"?

Beforehand
04-23-2008, 02:32 PM
As far as the whole "Roger's losses being at a different standard than Nadal's", I think it comes from the difference in their games. I say this because I want to say that I've never seen Rafa play badly, but the truth is, Rafa's playing badly tends to result in not as many errors, but a lot of short balls coming back as winners, making the other play look good. When Federer plays terribly, he hits weird backhands out of the park, and misses forehands he can make.

As such, Rafa's losses come off as "AMAZING effort by the opponent!" and Roger's come off as "Wow, he missed a lot of balls."

I assume the reverse is true of their tough wins. This is especially true since Rafa sometimes goes into "I can't get it going today, but I can keep at it long enough to wear you down and it won't matter." Roger tends to look at lot sloppier than Rafa playing at comparatively strong or low levels, which is more down to their styles than anything, I think.

Art&Soul
04-23-2008, 02:32 PM
Cool ROGI, you are a true fighter, what a comeback :angel:

Loremaster
04-23-2008, 02:35 PM
Lets just pretend this was a Nadal match with the same result.


GREAT FIGHT! SPARTANNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! "comes out of the closset"

Bullshit , Nadal was doing it against great players , by playing spectacular tennis when being down, Federer is doing it against player ranked outside 100 and he is playing baldy he is not capable of doing it against in form player with half a brain.
His form is so bad right know , he was lucky Davydenko handled him a title etc, even if he makes final it would be mircacle and Rafa would blow him out of the court given how great he is playing vs Ancic

Roland9
04-23-2008, 02:35 PM
What a match... Three things:

1) Federer's phsycial condition is very questionable. His movement was non-existant in the 2nd and most of the 3rd.

2) Hidalgo played well, but it was Fed who almost lost the match by playing horrible, and it was Fed again who won by picking up his game... The comeback was brilliant, deserves credit.

3) Don't you just love tennis?.. :)

Rogiman
04-23-2008, 02:37 PM
even if he makes final it would be mircacle and Rafa would blow him out of the court given how great he is playing vs AncicA match against Nadal now would probably include one or two bagels and luckily he isn't making the final.

bluefork
04-23-2008, 02:41 PM
Yup, rumour has it he has an acute case of mumps (TBA during Wimby), which showed as a carbunkle on his genetically dislocated salivary gland.

Don't get all defensive, I was just making an observation. Federer used to be notorious for looking completely cool no matter what the score was in a match. It's certainly unusual for him to sweat so much in a three set match in not especially hot weather.

I really don't know how much more proof Djokovic fans need to believe that Federer has been sick. He and his camp have said that he had mono, his movement has been shaky all year, and that carbuncle is highly likely to be a symptom of his weakened immune system. I'm not trying to make excuses for him--if he's not healthy enough to play, I doubt he'd be out competing regularly. But to imply that his illness was fake...:confused: You probably believe that the moon landings were a conspiracy too.:rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 02:43 PM
I really don't know how much more proof Djokovic fans need to believe that Federer has been sick. He and his camp have said that he had mono, his movement has been shaky all year, and that carbuncle is highly likely to be a symptom of his weakened immune system. I'm not trying to make excuses for him--if he's not healthy enough to play, I doubt he'd be out competing regularly. But to imply that his illness was fake...:confused: You probably believe that the moon landings were a conspiracy too.:rolleyes:

The only way to convince the Hater tards that he was/is indeed ill is having his doctors post the results to their medical investigations over here, and even then I suspect them to believe Fed has bribed them. :angel:

DDrago2
04-23-2008, 02:45 PM
Federer half-arsed this match as I saw it - expecialy after easily taking the first set.
He experiments much with the game these days, trying to make the difference by aproaching the net more often
He neither doesn't seem to have the old kind of motivation, he seems to be in the ATP-point-preserving/grand slam winning mode, which is wise I think.
Anyway this win today was way too hard-worked given the oponent. He has to add more edge to his game if he hopes for RG title

And before anyone makes fun of his current clay game: he is just fresh of taking a set of Davydenko on clay, which should tell you something

elessar
04-23-2008, 02:47 PM
Federer half-arsed this match as I saw it - expecialy after easily taking the first set.
He experiments much with the game these days, trying to make the difference by aproaching the net more often
He neither doesn't seem to have the old kind of motivation anymore, he seems to be in the ATP-point-preserving/grand slam winning mode
Anyway this win today was way too hard-worked given the oponent. He has to add more edge to his game if he hopes for RG title

I'm sorry but that's BS, you don't comeback from two breaks down in the third if you don't care. The problem was his appalingly bad play, not his motivation

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 02:50 PM
I'm sorry but that's BS, you don't comeback from two breaks down in the third if you don't care. The problem was his appalingly bad play, not his motivation

Yep. If he didn't have the motivation anymore, why would he even have bothered to try and FIGHT to come back in the final set when being 2-5 behind?
I was in fact very surprised to see him do so, and even manage it, to be honest. ;)

DDrago2
04-23-2008, 02:51 PM
I'm sorry but that's BS, you don't comeback from two breaks down in the third if you don't care. The problem was his appalingly bad play, not his motivation

You missudnerstood me. I didn't say he doesn't care, but that he doesn't care in the old way - every single win used to be more of an acomplishment for him than today. Now he cares to do well in Monte Carlo, but not so much to beat his oponent. In the past he wouldnt'be so relaxed and wouldn't experiment so much with his game. O.K. now?

rocketassist
04-23-2008, 02:53 PM
He's never won Monte Carlo so of course he could care. The chance to win all 9 Masters Series titles is still on, that would be some record, he only needs this, Rome and Paris...

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 02:55 PM
You missudnerstood me. I didn't say he doesn't care, but that he doesn't care in the old way - every single win was more of an acomplishment for him than today. In the past he wouldnt'be so relaxed and wouldn't experiment so much with his game because. Now he cares to do well in Monte Carlo, but not so much to beat his oponent. O.K. now?

Ehm... no.
Hasn't it rather been the way he manages to keep his cool for the past three/four years that has been the key to his success? He used to be a total headcase, a racket-trasher, in his younger days. It's in fact the way he so well manages to remain cool that makes him the superior player he still is, despite being in an awful slump nowadays. In fact, I'm glad he managed to keep his cool as well as he did today, because if there was any a match where his 'habits of old' might have well surfaced again, it was this one. Reason enough for that... but it didn't happen at all.

Roland9
04-23-2008, 02:59 PM
In fact, I'm glad he managed to keep his cool as well as he did today, because if there was any a match where his 'habits of old' might have well surfaced again, it was this one. Reason enough for that... but it didn't happen at all.

Exactly. The desire to win is still there. Dare I say it, maybe not as much as before, but it's there still.

Even if Federer has a mentality problem at the moment, I believe it's merely because of his primary problem: Physical condition.

Horatio Caine
04-23-2008, 02:59 PM
OMG Roger! :haha:

Huge credit to him for fighting back from a seemingly impossible position...but I guess you might also say that Ramirez choked (didn't see it...just reading opinions).

Federer for RG 2008? No chance. :sad:

Roddick, Tsonga, Mahut etc might as well forget the clay and pull their pimple-soled grass shoes on right now...Roger is there for the taking at SW19. Tim, fancy coming out of retirement for one last tilt? :aplot: :devil:

DDrago2
04-23-2008, 03:00 PM
Ehm... no.
Hasn't it rather been the way he manages to keep his cool for the past three/four years that has been the key to his success? He used to be a total headcase, a racket-trasher, in his younger days. It's in fact the way he so well manages to remain cool that makes him the superior player he still is, despite being in an awful slump nowadays. In fact, I'm glad he managed to keep his cool as well as he did today, because if there was any a match where his 'habits of old' might have well surfaced again, it was this one. Reason enough for that... but it didn't happen at all.

I don't follow you. I said that Federer seems more relaxed now than he was previous years, and you seem to agree with me there - so what's the meaning of "ehm no"? ANd I also agree that his game lacks edge and it has to be better if he wants to be an RG contender this year

elessar
04-23-2008, 03:02 PM
OMG Roger! :haha:

Huge credit to him for fighting back from a seemingly impossible position...but I guess you might also say that Ramirez choked (didn't see it...just reading opinions).
RRH choked badly in the TB but Federer only hit 4 UEs from the time he was down 5-1 (as opposed to the 50 he had hit before) so he does get some of the credit for breaking back twice.
Federer for RG 2008? No chance. :sad:
Clearly.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
04-23-2008, 03:02 PM
Next time you better beat the Ego King,RRH! :smoke:

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 03:03 PM
I don't follow you. I said that Federer seems more relaxed now than he was previous years, and you seem to agree with me there - so what's the meaning of "ehm no"? ANd I also agree that his game lacks edge and it has to be better if he wants to be an RG contender this year

I think it depends on how you define his 'previous years'. I was talking about his junior days, and I thought you were talking about the 2005 - 2007 period. I stand corrected if I were wrong to think so. ;)

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 03:05 PM
Exactly. The desire to win is still there. Dare I say it, maybe not as much as before, but it's there still.

Even if Federer has a mentality problem at the moment, I believe it's merely because of his primary problem: Physical condition.

My idea as well. Even further - I think the only reason why he still manages to hang on despite his bad current physical condition is that he just keeps on trying - he's not going to hand over his ranking position just like that, but in fact fights as a lion to keep it as long as he's possible to do so.

Apemant
04-23-2008, 03:06 PM
I assume the reverse is true of their tough wins. This is especially true since Rafa sometimes goes into "I can't get it going today, but I can keep at it long enough to wear you down and it won't matter." Roger tends to look at lot sloppier than Rafa playing at comparatively strong or low levels, which is more down to their styles than anything, I think.

This is way too much sense for our resident pathological Federer haters. :devil:

Branimir
04-23-2008, 03:06 PM
Federer is in such a bad form. But remember he won Estoril few days ago, had some wine or some more... First match after you win the tournament is damn hard! Ask Djokovic. :)

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 03:08 PM
Federer is in such a bad form. But remember he won Estoril few days ago, had some wine or some more... First match after you win the tournament is damn hard! Ask Djokovic. :)

That's in fact a surprisingly friendly post from you... :D

t0x
04-23-2008, 03:10 PM
Euugggh... it isn't fun to watch a match with so many errors, but that's clay I guess :/

Fed can count himself lucky, although he does deserve credit for the comeback. You can say it was a choke all you like but he only made 4/5 errors in his comeback compared to 50-odd the rest of the match!

BlueSwan
04-23-2008, 03:11 PM
A match against Nadal now would probably include one or two bagels and luckily he isn't making the final.

A breadstick, perhaps. Noone bagels Roger Federer.

Lleyton_
04-23-2008, 03:12 PM
True.
All he's been doing since his arrival is trolling - not a fan in my book.

And how exactly does that translate to "Federer Hater != Tennis Fan"?

What does 'you can't be a tennis fan and a Federer hater at the same time' mean? :o If you hate Federer as a tennis player you know nothing about tennis.

elessar
04-23-2008, 03:13 PM
Ah yes I remember what I also wanted to say :
RRH next time you wanna show off and try that BTL stuff, make sure you win :hug:

Rogiman
04-23-2008, 03:15 PM
What does 'you can't be a tennis fan and a Federer hater at the same time' mean? :o If you hate Federer as a tennis player you know nothing about tennis.I believe there are some Fed-'haters' that know a lot about the game, but this particular poster isn't a tennis fan but a mere troll.

Lleyton_
04-23-2008, 03:17 PM
I believe there are some Fed-'haters' that know a lot about the game, but this particular poster isn't a tennis fan but a mere troll.

Probably clay loving 'experts'? To each his own.

Merton
04-23-2008, 03:26 PM
Good fight for Roger. As I said during Estoril, Monte Carlo will tell us where Roger stands at the moment.

Branimir
04-23-2008, 03:27 PM
That's in fact a surprisingly friendly post from you... :D

I am friendly person. Not my fault every single MTF person is ready for war when something bad is said about their fave player. :p

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 03:28 PM
I am friendly person. Not my fault every single MTF person is ready for war when something bad is said about their fave player. :p

:yeah: :D

Xristos
04-23-2008, 03:29 PM
Great fighting spirit Rog!

l_mac
04-23-2008, 03:29 PM
True. If Novak or Nadal had won it this way, there would be 100s of "spartan" threads.


:rolls: And hundreds of smug Fedtards cluttering up the match thread with derogatory comments.

What a scoreline :lol: Maybe I will watch this match later.

Sean.J.S.
04-23-2008, 03:36 PM
Roger you suck. :o You'd be lucky to win a point of Nadal playing this shit.

Gotta feel for RRH. :sad: :hug:

gnaz
04-23-2008, 03:39 PM
The decline for roger continous. 100 ue? You have got to be kidding

Sean.J.S.
04-23-2008, 03:40 PM
The decline for roger continous. 100 ue? You have got to be kidding

It was around 60. ;)

Shirogane
04-23-2008, 03:41 PM
nice thread title :D
Roger :worship:

tennizen
04-23-2008, 03:45 PM
:rolls: I just read this thread. Not that I mind Fed being made fun of(especially today) but Farenhajt,Aloimeh and zcess actually believing what they are writing:lol:

Daniel
04-23-2008, 03:46 PM
Well done Roger :) :yeah:

markhingis
04-23-2008, 03:51 PM
I'm glad Roger won. When I saw 2-5 on live scores I knew he was gonna fight to come back! he did it!

zcess81
04-23-2008, 03:51 PM
:rolls: I just read this thread. Not that I mind Fed being made fun of(especially today) but Farenhajt,Aloimeh and zcess actually believing what they are writing:lol:

Stating that Roger played like shit and that any decent player would have beaten him today is not a belief...it's a fact.

Apemant
04-23-2008, 03:55 PM
I'd just like to ask one simple question:

You guys who don't seem to 'buy' the illness excuse, WHAT IS exactly your theory as to why Roger seems to be playing so ...inconvincingly, this year?

What do you think, that it's the best he can do or what? I'd really like to hear a coherent explanation. He's simply not that good? Never was to begin with? What?

tennizen
04-23-2008, 03:56 PM
Stating that Roger played like shit and that any decent player would have beaten him today is not a belief...it's a fact.

Oh you have a history:hug: I am afraid I can't independently evaluate your posts in this thread.

maxxo
04-23-2008, 03:57 PM
A breadstick, perhaps. Noone bagels Roger Federer.

did he ever get bageled? i'm looking through his matches during the last
8 years and i couldn't fine one. but i only watched the matches that he lost, maybe he got bageled in some match that he eventually won :confused:

Apemant
04-23-2008, 03:57 PM
did he ever get bageled? i'm looking through his matches during the last
8 years and i couldn't fine one. but i only watched the matches that he lost, maybe he got bageled in some match that he eventually won :confused:

Got bagelled 3 times, when he was 18 or so.

Yup, Spadea in MC, Rafter in RG and Byron Black in Queens, all before his 18th

elessar
04-23-2008, 03:58 PM
did he ever get bageled? i'm looking through his matches during the last
8 years and i couldn't fine one. but i only watched the matches that he lost, maybe he got bageled in some match that he eventually won :confused:
He got baggeled 3 times in his pro career but that was during his first year on tour. It never happened again (until now)

zcess81
04-23-2008, 03:58 PM
True. If Novak or Nadal had won it this way, there would be 100s of "spartan" threads.

Anyway, glad I didn't watch the match.

Not really. It depends who you beat. There is nothing "spartan" in beating a player who's outside 100. If Novak won against Anderson in Miami this way it still would have been quite embarrassing. If Fed beat anyone in top 20 like he did Hildago (who's 133rd I believe) then it would have been impressive victory.

Corey Feldman
04-23-2008, 04:05 PM
Hidalgo is one of the players Nole does impersonations of, btw

was quite funny actually :lol::o

tangerine_dream
04-23-2008, 04:06 PM
Rojah the Barbarian. :hatoff:

Also, did anyone else notice that Federer was sweating unusually much for him?
OMG REALLY? Welcome to January.

Mr. Magassi
04-23-2008, 04:07 PM
What is going on FED? Geeeeeez....

gnaz
04-23-2008, 04:09 PM
Have you noticed that Mirka's face is also breaking out like rogers'? She has a mild case of acne...

maxxo
04-23-2008, 04:11 PM
apemant and elessar, thnx

yeah, what is up with that volcano growing out of rogers face?

Vacant
04-23-2008, 04:12 PM
:lol:

bluefork
04-23-2008, 04:17 PM
Rojah the Barbarian. :hatoff:


OMG REALLY? Welcome to January.

:wavey:Tangerine, what are you doing posting here? Don't you know Roddick doesn't play Monte Carlo?

GlennMirnyi
04-23-2008, 04:34 PM
If Hidalgo choked, what did Ancic? Played with courage? :lol: :rolleyes:

rofe
04-23-2008, 04:35 PM
If Hidalgo choked, what did Ancic? Played with courage? :lol: :rolleyes:

Obviously.

Beat
04-23-2008, 04:37 PM
UNFORCED ERRORS
Federer 54

:scared: oh dear.

but yeah, i kinda like this kind of match for him.

njnetswill
04-23-2008, 04:38 PM
:unsure:

Apemant
04-23-2008, 04:38 PM
If Hidalgo choked, what did Ancic? Played with courage? :lol: :rolleyes:

He didn't choke, just didn't play a very intelligent tennis... you CAN'T hit winners against Rafa on clay just like that, so better don't even try. You just make yourself look like an idiot, law degree or not. :devil:

GlennMirnyi
04-23-2008, 04:40 PM
He didn't choke, just didn't play a very intelligent tennis... you CAN'T hit winners against Rafa on clay just like that, so better don't even try. You just make yourself look like an idiot, law degree or not. :devil:

He crapped his pants. It was beyond choking, mate.

Apemant
04-23-2008, 04:41 PM
:scared: oh dear.

but yeah, i kinda like this kind of match for him.

That's 55 UEs made in 193 points played = 28.5% points ended in Fed's UE. Check out Ancic: 30 UEs in 93 points played = 32.3%.

But that's nothing compared to Safin: 52 UEs in 109 points played = 47.7%. :worship: :devil:

FedFan_2007
04-23-2008, 04:43 PM
This Federer is an absolute mug and will lose in the 3R!

groundstroke
04-23-2008, 04:55 PM
****en Chokirez Mugidalgo :retard:

Spectacular choke.Federer is so lucky with these that its undescribeable.:rolleyes:
Federer was not lucky, he turned it up at 1-5 in the third set.
Another hard win - not pretty, but Federer has never won ugly, again, another unimpressive win for him.

elessar
04-23-2008, 04:56 PM
That's 55 UEs made in 193 points played = 28.5% points ended in Fed's UE. Check out Ancic: 30 UEs in 93 points played = 32.3%.

But that's nothing compared to Safin: 50 UEs in 109 points played = 45.9%. :worship: :devil:
Beautiful stats :worship:

BTW I noticed your question didn't get any answers :sad:

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 04:59 PM
yeah, what is up with that volcano growing out of rogers face?

I guess you didn't see Roger play in Estoril. :cool:

FedFan_2007
04-23-2008, 05:00 PM
Karin, this is an absolute muggy performance by Roger. I think he'll lose to the great Monfils.

groundstroke
04-23-2008, 05:03 PM
Karin, this is an absolute muggy performance by Roger. I think he'll lose to the great Monfils.
You are the worst ever Federer fan I've seen in my life. Are you 12? Where's the support? Dedication? You change your opinion about Federer faster than the speed of light.

zcess81
04-23-2008, 05:05 PM
You are the worst ever Federer fan I've seen in my life. Are you 12? Where's the support? Dedication? You change your opinion about Federer faster than the speed of light.

You know Fed is in a crisis when Fedtards turn against him.

Apemant
04-23-2008, 05:05 PM
Beautiful stats :worship:

BTW I noticed your question didn't get any answers :sad:

Did you really expect an answer? :devil:

Toko
04-23-2008, 05:07 PM
You are the worst ever Federer fan I've seen in my life. Are you 12? Where's the support? Dedication? You change your opinion about Federer faster than the speed of light.

He speaks the truth though:sad:

elessar
04-23-2008, 05:08 PM
You know Fed is in a crisis when Fedtards turn against him.
And you know haters are grasping at straws when they actually take fed_troll2007 seriously
Did you really expect an answer? :devil:
I was just making some pop corn and getting ready for the wonderful conspiration theories that were sure to come :awww:

Apemant
04-23-2008, 05:09 PM
You are the worst ever Federer fan I've seen in my life. Are you 12? Where's the support? Dedication? You change your opinion about Federer faster than the speed of light.

Come on. He's just trying to prepare himself for the worst. That way, if Federer indeed loses to Mugfils, he can comfort himself that at least he predicted it beforehand.

groundstroke
04-23-2008, 05:12 PM
He speaks the truth though:sad:
I could go into a massive argument but I don't want to - he's wrong, as are you. He didn't play well today, but at 1-5 all the way to 5-5 he made 5 UE. When he shows an ounce of wanting to play decent, he'll use it.

rofe
04-23-2008, 05:14 PM
I'd just like to ask one simple question:

You guys who don't seem to 'buy' the illness excuse, WHAT IS exactly your theory as to why Roger seems to be playing so ...inconvincingly, this year?

What do you think, that it's the best he can do or what? I'd really like to hear a coherent explanation. He's simply not that good? Never was to begin with? What?

He was dominating in a weak era - full of chokers. Now, Novak and Nadal have shown the way to beat him and everyone is learning from these two masters.

They would crap their pants just watching Roger across the net before but now they are fearless.

Toko
04-23-2008, 05:15 PM
I could go into a massive argument but I don't want to - he's wrong, as are you. He didn't play well today, but at 1-5 all the way to 5-5 he made 5 UE. When he shows an ounce of wanting to play decent, he'll use it.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?:)

RagingLamb
04-23-2008, 05:16 PM
That's 1 for Roger, 0 for Mono

groundstroke
04-23-2008, 05:16 PM
I guess we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?:)
Definitely. :)

Merton
04-23-2008, 05:17 PM
I'd just like to ask one simple question:

You guys who don't seem to 'buy' the illness excuse, WHAT IS exactly your theory as to why Roger seems to be playing so ...inconvincingly, this year?

What do you think, that it's the best he can do or what? I'd really like to hear a coherent explanation. He's simply not that good? Never was to begin with? What?

And you know haters are grasping at straws when they actually take fed_troll2007 seriously

I was just making some pop corn and getting ready for the wonderful conspiration theories that were sure to come :awww:

Ok, I will try to provide some theories, since I don't see any volunteers around :awww:

-There is some chip malfunction, the alien engineers will eventually work it out as part of their earth domination campaign.
-Roger is the victim of a voodoo conspiracy originated by Sampras.
-Roger has been intimidated by the brilliance of Djokovic and he has problems concentrating on his game.

Okonsky
04-23-2008, 05:18 PM
Federer sucks.

anon57
04-23-2008, 05:19 PM
Ok, I will try to provide some theories, since I don't see any volunteers around :awww:

-There is some chip malfunction, the alien engineers will eventually work it out as part of their earth domination campaign.
-Roger is the victim of a voodoo conspiracy originated by Sampras.
-Roger has been intimidated by the brilliance of Djokovic and he has problems concentrating on his game.
:lol: That explains everything :haha:

bokehlicious
04-23-2008, 05:20 PM
-Roger has been intimidated by the brilliance of Djokovic and he has problems concentrating on his game.

That is definitely the main reason of Roger's decline :worship: smart guys don't get fooled by that mono excuse :o

Corey Feldman
04-23-2008, 05:20 PM
Federer sucks.
You educated peasant ;)

Apemant
04-23-2008, 05:22 PM
He was dominating in a weak era - full of chokers. Now, Novak and Nadal have shown the way to beat him and everyone is learning from these two masters.

They would crap their pants just watching Roger across the net before but now they are fearless.

:hatoff:
Pretty much nailed it. :devil: Just replace 'rofe' with some random guy and it would sound completely authentic... :lol:

FedFan_2007
04-23-2008, 05:25 PM
Pretty much true. Nobody fears the FedMug anymore. He's just another ATP mug.

elessar
04-23-2008, 05:26 PM
He was dominating in a weak era - full of chokers. Now, Novak and Nadal have shown the way to beat him and everyone is learning from these two masters.

They would crap their pants just watching Roger across the net before but now they are fearless.

Ok, I will try to provide some theories, since I don't see any volunteers around :awww:

-There is some chip malfunction, the alien engineers will eventually work it out as part of their earth domination campaign.
-Roger is the victim of a voodoo conspiracy originated by Sampras.
-Roger has been intimidated by the brilliance of Djokovic and he has problems concentrating on his game.
:haha:
I think you nailed it :awww: But clearly the aliens have already figured out what the problem was and sent back the updated version

sawan66278
04-23-2008, 05:41 PM
I'd just like to ask one simple question:

You guys who don't seem to 'buy' the illness excuse, WHAT IS exactly your theory as to why Roger seems to be playing so ...inconvincingly, this year?

What do you think, that it's the best he can do or what? I'd really like to hear a coherent explanation. He's simply not that good? Never was to begin with? What?

Plain and simple:

The schoolyard bully got punched in the face in Australia...and has not recovered. I truly believe he is afraid of Djokovic...and has begun to doubt his own abilities. He is now Roger Scare-derer.

elessar
04-23-2008, 05:44 PM
-Roger has been intimidated by the brilliance of Djokovic and he has problems concentrating on his game.

Plain and simple:

The schoolyard bully got punched in the face in Australia...and has not recovered. I truly believe he is afraid of Djokovic...and has begun to doubt his own abilities. He is now Roger Scare-derer.

Merton :worship:
Only Sawan doesn't count cause he's a troll too :awww:

JediFed
04-23-2008, 05:48 PM
Expected win.

rofe
04-23-2008, 05:51 PM
Plain and simple:

The schoolyard bully got punched in the face in Australia...and has not recovered. I truly believe he is afraid of Djokovic...and has begun to doubt his own abilities. He is now Roger Scare-derer.

Never in doubt.

Bascule
04-23-2008, 05:51 PM
Merton :worship:
Only Sawan doesn't count cause he's a troll too :awww:

Oh...Sawan became troll now?:p

Come on...he's just a sweet beast in the Spider-man costume.:devil:

Okonsky
04-23-2008, 05:54 PM
Plain and simple:

The schoolyard bully got punched in the face in Australia...and has not recovered. I truly believe he is afraid of Djokovic...and has begun to doubt his own abilities. He is now Roger Scare-derer.

Absolutely agree with every word.

elessar
04-23-2008, 05:55 PM
Oh...Sawan became troll now?:p

Come on...he's just a sweet beast in the Spider-man costume.:devil:
Don't get me wrong, he's a troll but he's my kind of troll :D the funny ones not the ennoying repetitve morons

Warrior
04-23-2008, 06:14 PM
It's horrific! :mad: I'm praying for an easy draw for Fed at FO.

dylan24
04-23-2008, 06:20 PM
expected tough match for fed.
double R is a player.
he beat the great blake in the US in new haven in 06
should be roger's toughest match of tournament.
he should roll from here

Warrior
04-23-2008, 06:20 PM
Plain and simple:

The schoolyard bully got punched in the face in Australia...and has not recovered. I truly believe he is afraid of Djokovic...and has begun to doubt his own abilities. He is now Roger Scare-derer.


I'm sorry, but the world does not revolve around Djokovic!

vrishti
04-23-2008, 06:27 PM
if it had been rafa in roger's place then MTFers would have been raving about his fighting spirit, but because it was roger, it was a choke:rolleyes:

Farenhajt
04-23-2008, 06:32 PM
I'd just like to ask one simple question:

You guys who don't seem to 'buy' the illness excuse, WHAT IS exactly your theory as to why Roger seems to be playing so ...inconvincingly, this year?

What do you think, that it's the best he can do or what? I'd really like to hear a coherent explanation. He's simply not that good? Never was to begin with? What?

I'm sure no one questions he HAD the virus in the system, but I'm also sure there are many who question the impact of the virus to his game. It's not like he started losing it during and after Melbourne - check 2007 for several out-of-the-blue losses to the guys he had no business losing to.

Everybody talks about Nadal's burnout, simply because it's really easy to talk about Nadal's burnout coz he's, well, burning on court :) but the same thing happens to Federer, albeit not that aggressively.

As for sweating argument ("he's sweating, ergo he's feeling bad") - people are right, he IS feeling bad, but on the lines of "FUCK FUCK FUCK I'm losing this and I'm toast" - i.e. his sweating is purely ego-driven. He never sweats when he delivers bagels and breadsticks (which would be statistically expected in the state of illness), only in the opposite case.

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 06:34 PM
It's horrific! :mad: I'm praying for an easy draw for Fed at FO.

That's not going to be much of a help for him if he keeps on making gazillions of errors and as much as hands over the match to his opponent... :shrug:

bokehlicious
04-23-2008, 06:34 PM
his sweating is purely ego-driven.

:haha: his ego makes him sweat :yeah: :worship:

Corey Feldman
04-23-2008, 06:35 PM
ego-driven sweat eh

hmm

Corey Feldman
04-23-2008, 06:35 PM
:haha::haha:

Sunset of Age
04-23-2008, 06:36 PM
:haha: his ego makes him sweat :yeah: :worship:

ego-driven sweat eh

hmm

Hadn't seen that one yet. Brilliant. Applause! :worship: :worship: :worship:
:retard:

vrishti
04-23-2008, 06:37 PM
Karin, this is an absolute muggy performance by Roger. I think he'll lose to the great Monfils.

either change your name or stop talking crap

Fed Fan hahahaha:mad:

Rogieva
04-23-2008, 06:54 PM
:eek: :eek:

star_of_dusk
04-23-2008, 06:56 PM
so close

:scared:

JediFed
04-23-2008, 07:01 PM
because it was roger, it was a choke


Word, he was up 6-1. I don't see how you can call it a "choke".

sawan66278
04-23-2008, 07:02 PM
I'm sorry, but the world does not revolve around Djokovic!

You're right; but Roger apparently thinks so.

Oh...Sawan became troll now?:p

Come on...he's just a sweet beast in the Spider-man costume.:devil:

;)

Don't get me wrong, he's a troll but he's my kind of troll :D the funny ones not the ennoying repetitve morons

I'm actually a Hobbit.

buzz
04-23-2008, 07:03 PM
ego-driven sweat eh

hmm

It stinks:rolleyes:

Roland9
04-23-2008, 07:04 PM
You're right; but Roger apparently thinks so.

Huh?.. :haha:

Marek.
04-23-2008, 07:04 PM
Plain and simple:

The schoolyard bully got punched in the face in Australia...and has not recovered. I truly believe he is afraid of Djokovic...and has begun to doubt his own abilities. He is now Roger Scare-derer.

:haha: Same 'ol BS from sawan :yeah:

sawan66278
04-23-2008, 07:10 PM
:haha: Same 'ol BS from sawan :yeah:

BS? Haven't you seen the stress-induced boil from Hell on his face?;)

Bascule
04-23-2008, 07:17 PM
:haha: Same 'ol BS from sawan :yeah:

This smiling will produce the acid in your stomach, Marek, easy, man...but, have you heard the news? Fed lost in straight sets from Joker!:devil:

scarecrows
04-23-2008, 07:21 PM
fed lost to Fish, Roddick and almost lost to Ramirez Hidalgo
beating Federer is not a big achievement this year :)

Smash.
04-23-2008, 07:24 PM
Roger:rolls::rolls:That's pathetic.

ChinoRios4Ever
04-23-2008, 07:25 PM
OMFG :tape: :spit: :rolls: :silly: :crazy:

sawan66278
04-23-2008, 07:25 PM
This smiling will produce the acid in your stomach, Marek, easy, man...but, have you heard the news? Fed lost in straight sets from Joker!:devil:

Exactly, Commander.

Vida
04-23-2008, 07:31 PM
haven't seen the match, but from what i read, it was a 'close call'. don't want to go all 'gloom and doom' on ya' fed fans, but your guy is slumpingly struggling...

is it jose?
is it mono?
is it mental?
or is it down to opposition?

i don't know but something tells me it all of the above. in any case, aura seems to be gone.

on the plus side, he fought well (against superior opponent :p) and climbed up from the black hole, so its a good sigh.

Bascule
04-23-2008, 07:33 PM
Exactly, Commander.

Lieutenant, I won't let anyone to bash you :(

...but me! Remember this!;)

Raquel
04-23-2008, 07:37 PM
Roger hit 100 unforced erros RRH 2 winners.:eek:
;6928433]It was the worst match of the career of Roger i think, it was hurting my eyes. But he was fighting soooooo hard!! 2 5 down third set.. He kept sliding all over the court playing an attacking game. Still some horrendous missing shots but also some great volleys and slices. The crowd was chearing him so much! Roger can be proud of himself.
:worship: Well done Rogi :D

I am almost glad I didn't see any of it because I don't think I would have enjoyed much of it, but well done to Roger for fighting through :yeah: ;)

sawan66278
04-23-2008, 07:42 PM
Lieutenant, I won't let anyone to bash you :(

...but me! Remember this!;)


;) Of course.;)

ranaldo
04-23-2008, 07:44 PM
Here's my analysis of why Roger is sucking:
At the beginning of 2007 at the AO, I noticed he started playing a bit differently. More spin on the forehand, less power, he was looking for the angles. Tacticwise he started going to net more than he used to (compared to 2005 and 2006 Roger). Things sort of started going wrong in Dubai but everyone thought that was a temporary tired Roger since he was tired anyway. He sucked for a few months before winning Hamburg and Wimbledon, but already we could see technical curiosities : he hit a lot of open stance forehands, and more importantly he wasn't looking to swing freely through the ball but passively hit with 'heavy topspin'. He was trying to emulate a claycourt game because of his RG obsession. He still ended winning the major tournaments after Wimby because of his versatility and his serve was really good in the later part of 2007.
He's gotten a little bit more creative with the volleys which is something he does well, but he's lost of lot of things which make him great:
-the forehand: he used to do a lot of serve-forehand winner combo, or even winners down the line, not so many of these anymore. He's making retarded UEs with what used to be the best forehand in the world.
- the movement, especially to the forehand side
- the tactics: controlled agression. Today he doesn't attack more but makes more unforced errors. I also don't believe in systematically attacking the net to finish off points. That's one of many options but should be used selectively.
I also don't believe in 'players aren't afraid of Roger anymore' explanation. All the matches he's lost this year have been because of his unforced errors/bad tactics (except the AO semi final). Just watch the decisive breaks of serves in the matches he lost this year: usually 3 consecutive unforced errors or sthg.

scarecrows
04-23-2008, 07:44 PM
bascule+sawan :couple:

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/e/7/4/e74463d67f5859c4d2ed7eba95630160.gif

Bascule
04-23-2008, 07:52 PM
You're right; but Roger apparently thinks so.

;)

I'm actually a Hobbit.

A Hobbit? :unsure: That was my potential fear...but your ears are...small!!:confused:
Does this mean that you are...the "lil guy" actually?:eek:

timafi
04-23-2008, 07:52 PM
ok Roger enough joking around;time to get your sh*t together already and start playing the way we all know you can.:o:mad::mad::mad:

Bascule
04-23-2008, 07:53 PM
bascule+sawan :couple:

This is the old story! Next...

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/e/7/4/e74463d67f5859c4d2ed7eba95630160.gif

:eek::eek::eek:

star_of_dusk
04-23-2008, 07:55 PM
Federer's match was the only one to go to 3 sets.

Not looking good for him. :sad:

dylan24
04-23-2008, 08:02 PM
Federer's match was the only one to go to 3 sets.

Not looking good for him. :sad:

tipsarevic/lapentti went 3

Roland9
04-23-2008, 08:03 PM
Here's my analysis of why Roger is sucking:
At the beginning of 2007 at the AO, I noticed he started playing a bit differently. More spin on the forehand, less power, he was looking for the angles. Tacticwise he started going to net more than he used to (compared to 2005 and 2006 Roger). Things sort of started going wrong in Dubai but everyone thought that was a temporary tired Roger since he was tired anyway. He sucked for a few months before winning Hamburg and Wimbledon, but already we could see technical curiosities : he hit a lot of open stance forehands, and more importantly he wasn't looking to swing freely through the ball but passively hit with 'heavy topspin'. He was trying to emulate a claycourt game because of his RG obsession. He still ended winning the major tournaments after Wimby because of his versatility and his serve was really good in the later part of 2007.
He's gotten a little bit more creative with the volleys which is something he does well, but he's lost of lot of things which make him great:
-the forehand: he used to do a lot of serve-forehand winner combo, or even winners down the line, not so many of these anymore. He's making retarded UEs with what used to be the best forehand in the world.
- the movement, especially to the forehand side
- the tactics: controlled agression. Today he doesn't attack more but makes more unforced errors. I also don't believe in systematically attacking the net to finish off points. That's one of many options but should be used selectively.
I also don't believe in 'players aren't afraid of Roger anymore' explanation. All the matches he's lost this year have been because of his unforced errors/bad tactics (except the AO semi final). Just watch the decisive breaks of serves in the matches he lost this year: usually 3 consecutive unforced errors or sthg.

Good post.

But his FH is a huge weapon still (perhaps his only true weapon on opponent's serve at the moment), and the occasional FH/BH errors he is making is mostly due to his bad movement (as you said). Technical change is not really the prime reason here IMO; he's struggling phsycially.

HeretiC
04-23-2008, 08:14 PM
How can you ask a guy with a Dementieva like serve to close out a match?

Tell him to ask Dementieva about that. She has 21(15 singles 6 doubles) titles and 590 (440 singles,150 doubles) wins so far. :devil:

aeronatasha
04-23-2008, 08:26 PM
Good lord. I went to work after 1st set, thinking RRH was bound to wake up and start playing, but I certainly didn't expect this.

Now I wish I've seen it..

Still, glad to see Fed won it.

HeretiC
04-23-2008, 09:30 PM
I only saw the first set and thought that it will be another quicky. I was soooo wrong!!! Choke has to be involved when failing to serve for a match twice, but kudos to Fed for not giving up.

Jelena_78
04-23-2008, 09:34 PM
I'm glad he made it

Clay Death
04-23-2008, 09:35 PM
I'm glad he made it


he is not getting by Djokovic at this rate. we have ourselves a Nadal vs Djokovic final for a change.

Sjengster
04-23-2008, 09:35 PM
:eek:

:worship: Well done Rogi :D

I am almost glad I didn't see any of it because I don't think I would have enjoyed much of it, but well done to Roger for fighting through :yeah: ;)

The actual stats - 54 errors from Federer, 15 winners from Hidalgo - aren't quite as shocking. In fact looking at the statistics Federer was better in every single department, even though he made more errors he had a much better ratio of winners to errors than his opponent. But then, I doubt his stats were superior when he was 1-5 down in the third.

dodoboy
04-23-2008, 09:46 PM
He looked REALLY uncomfortable for the bulk of this match, but this is Federer now i guess :shrug:

Federerhingis
04-23-2008, 09:51 PM
Now there is no doubt he made the cut for "Winning Ugly" Auditions and Brad will definitely feature Federer on the 7th edition of his famed book "Winning Ugly". :o :tape:

star_of_dusk
04-23-2008, 09:55 PM
tipsarevic/lapentti went 3

so sorry, didn't see that one. :sad:

cardio
04-23-2008, 10:57 PM
last 26 minutes of the match is here ( starting from 5-2 in 3.set)
http://www.2shared.com/file/3191176/c310aace/fed-hidalgo_lastgames.html

Federerhingis
04-23-2008, 11:00 PM
last 26 minutes of the match is here ( starting from 5-2 in 3.set)
http://www.2shared.com/file/3191176/c310aace/fed-hidalgo_lastgames.html

Thanks Cardio. :wavey:

bluefork
04-23-2008, 11:02 PM
he is not getting by Djokovic at this rate. we have ourselves a Nadal vs Djokovic final for a change.

Hey, not so fast. You never know what could happen with Nalbandian still in the draw.