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MC R1: Ljubicic def Kuerten 6-1 6-2

Shox
04-21-2008, 03:56 PM
Ljubicic 50% on return 4/8 bps
Guga 17% 0/0 bps
thats says it all, also Ljubicic was cracking BH and FH winners all over the court.
sad to see guga go out this way.

jazar
04-21-2008, 03:57 PM
its still matchpoint

rocketassist
04-21-2008, 03:57 PM
There needs to be a clampdown from the mods with posting scores before they finish.

Voo de Mar
04-21-2008, 03:59 PM
:sad:

DartMarcus
04-21-2008, 04:00 PM
This is sad for Guga :sad:
hope he gets the easest draw of all possible draws at Roland Garros:)

jazar
04-21-2008, 04:00 PM
There needs to be a clampdown from the mods with posting scores before they finish.

totally. i mean guga could still have made a sensational comeback and won and people would be thinking he lost cos of this thread coming up prematurely

stebs
04-21-2008, 04:01 PM
Sad to watch that match.

Shox
04-21-2008, 04:02 PM
its still matchpoint

did it really matter today, this match was over in the first set, 2 of the 3 games guga won were because Ljubicic just didnt feel like returning with a 5-0 and 5-1 lead.

gnaz
04-21-2008, 04:02 PM
:sad::sad::sad::sad:

finishingmove
04-21-2008, 04:02 PM
nice how ljubicic plays his best tennis at appropriate times. lost to monofed on his birthday , and now trashes poor guga.

time to get schooled by djokovic

martinatreue
04-21-2008, 04:02 PM
As expected

Burrow
04-21-2008, 04:03 PM
The crowd were silent when Ljubicic won a point, got behind Kuerten at any opportunity, but he never gave them much to celebrate unfortunately, he won't be remember as the aging man plagued with injury limping around the court once he retires, but always the energetic, flamboyant character that triumphed at Roland Garros multiple times.

Well I will, anyway.

Burrow
04-21-2008, 04:03 PM
Shox was already talking smack in the live score thread, leaving sarcastic comments about Kuerten, have some respect shox.

arm
04-21-2008, 04:04 PM
did it really matter today, this match was over in the first set, 2 of the 3 games guga won were because Ljubicic just didnt feel like returning with a 5-0 and 5-1 lead.

still you have to respect the player. And also us, the posters.

dijus
04-21-2008, 04:04 PM
that was painful really

Timbo
04-21-2008, 04:05 PM
Roland Garros will be a similar experience for Guga I fear.

Kitty de Sade
04-21-2008, 04:05 PM
:sad:

but always the energetic, flamboyant character that triumphed at Roland Garros multiple times.

Well I will, anyway.

:yeah:

I will too, and that helps to take the sting away a little bit. Thank you. :)

tangerine_dream
04-21-2008, 04:06 PM
Depressing result.

NinaNina19
04-21-2008, 04:06 PM
Depressing result.
:tears:

anon57
04-21-2008, 04:06 PM
:sad: to see him like that

jeahhh!
04-21-2008, 04:06 PM
:sad:

TheBoiledEgg
04-21-2008, 04:08 PM
Guga :sad: :( its just too sad to see him out there like this
wasnt even competitive against a mug like Ljubo :help:

Blue Heart24
04-21-2008, 04:09 PM
Congrats Ivan,he played well,actually better than I expected.

But he will need to return better and dramatically improve his first serve percentage if he wants any chance against Djokovic.

RNP2008
04-21-2008, 04:09 PM
that hurts...:sad:

finishingmove
04-21-2008, 04:10 PM
Guga :sad: :( its just too sad to see him out there like this
wasnt even competitive against a mug like Ljubo :help:

dont be fooled , truba is the best "dead rubber" player. he just shits his pants on any other day

Bilbo
04-21-2008, 04:11 PM
expected trashing

ChinoRios4Ever
04-21-2008, 04:11 PM
depressing match to see :sad:

whist
04-21-2008, 04:12 PM
That pre-match thread and pole just tells you how much people here dislike Ljubičić. That is just pathetic. And from what I`ve heard, Guga told in his interview (don`t know when that was) that Ljubičić wouldn`t be a Top 3 player 10 years back, which is really pathetic statement. The same way, Guga would have never won an RG title or be No. 1 in the world (or even top 3 these days) if he was playing in this era.

HeretiC
04-21-2008, 04:13 PM
Almost won it. ;)

It doesn't matter really, he wont be remembered by this match anyway. He had his stellar moments in the past and that's what counts.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
04-21-2008, 04:20 PM
Don't like this match.Just hope Ivan will play his best against the timeout king.

Guga :hug:

Timbo
04-21-2008, 04:20 PM
That pre-match thread and pole just tells you how much people here dislike Ljubičić. That is just pathetic. And from what I`ve heard, Guga told in his interview (don`t know when that was) that Ljubičić wouldn`t be a Top 3 player 10 years back, which is really pathetic statement. The same way, Guga would have never won an RG title or be No. 1 in the world (or even top 3 these days) if he was playing in this era.

I have to agree with that. I'm a neutral but Ljubicic has a great game to watch, seems a nice fellow and is widely respected by his fellow pros. But you'll probably find the people who hurl abuse at him are the same ones who shout "RETIRE NOW" whenever anybody anywhere loses a match.

spencercarlos
04-21-2008, 04:22 PM
That pre-match thread and pole just tells you how much people here dislike Ljubičić. That is just pathetic. And from what I`ve heard, Guga told in his interview (don`t know when that was) that Ljubičić wouldn`t be a Top 3 player 10 years back, which is really pathetic statement. The same way, Guga would have never won an RG title or be No. 1 in the world (or even top 3 these days) if he was playing in this era.
This is a pretty pathetic post indeed Kuerten beat Federer back in 2003 and 2004. He trashed Agassi in the Masters Cup final back in 2000 and before that match he beat Sampras, yes a clay courter beating Sampras indoors.
The fact that he is phisically unable to compete today because of his hip implant and operations does not means he never reached a level in order to compete today that´s ridiculous.

Apemant
04-21-2008, 04:23 PM
I have to agree with that. I'm a neutral but Ljubicic has a great game to watch, seems a nice fellow and is widely respected by his fellow pros. But you'll probably find the people who hurl abuse at him are the same ones who shout "RETIRE NOW" whenever anybody anywhere loses a match.

It has something to do with Ljubo being too frank in his post- (and pre- :devil:) match interviews for everyone's liking, as well as Croatards being too vocal a couple of years ago when he was #2, err I mean #3...

But I still like him, too bad there's not much to comment on him lately...

Blue Heart24
04-21-2008, 04:23 PM
That pre-match thread and pole just tells you how much people here dislike Ljubičić. That is just pathetic. And from what I`ve heard, Guga told in his interview (don`t know when that was) that Ljubičić wouldn`t be a Top 3 player 10 years back, which is really pathetic statement. The same way, Guga would have never won an RG title or be No. 1 in the world (or even top 3 these days) if he was playing in this era.

:worship::worship::worship: Post of the month.

Lea_Linds
04-21-2008, 04:24 PM
Guga :sad:

prima donna
04-21-2008, 04:25 PM
Retire already.

Apemant
04-21-2008, 04:26 PM
Anyway, this was sad to watch. Not sure why he put himself in this position... should've retired 2 years ago.

GugaF1
04-21-2008, 04:29 PM
Ljubicic played a really solid Match, didnt give anything away to Guga. Was able to explore the Brazilians movement deficiencies really well and served great when needed.what else can you do..
In Order for Guga to play better today, he needed a player that gave away more errors and was less lethal from the baseline giving him more rythm. Ljubicic was droping bombs from the back on any chance.

Timbo
04-21-2008, 04:32 PM
It has something to do with Ljubo being too frank in his post- (and pre- :devil:) match interviews for everyone's liking, as well as Croatards being too vocal a couple of years ago when he was #2, err I mean #3...

But I still like him, too bad there's not much to comment on him lately...

fair point, but he IS the president of the ATP Players Council...that should also tell you something about what his fellow pros think of him.

Oh, and I don't agree with the "Kuerten would never have won the French/Ljubicic would never have got to number 3" comments made earlier. Kuerten would have been a FO winner in most eras, and Ljubicic has as much talent as Magnus Norman or Michael Chang ever did.

Tommy fan
04-21-2008, 04:36 PM
That's sad, but expected.. :sad:

Apemant
04-21-2008, 04:36 PM
fair point, but he IS the president of the ATP Players Council...that should also tell you something about what his fellow pros think of him.

Seems you misunderstood me... *I* have nothing against frankness, on the contrary. I'm just saying what I think irked some other people (not me). Granted, they probably wouldn't use the exact phrase 'being frank' but rather some less flattering terms :devil: - but hey.

Timbo
04-21-2008, 04:41 PM
Seems you misunderstood me... *I* have nothing against frankness, on the contrary. I'm just saying what I think irked some other people (not me). Granted, they probably wouldn't use the exact phrase 'being frank' but rather some less flattering terms :devil: - but hey.

Gotcha. The same people who pounced on Federer when he pointed out Murray's limitations and tried to paint him as some kind of bitter and twisted sore loser.

Boris Franz Ecker
04-21-2008, 04:42 PM
This is sad for Guga :sad:
hope he gets the easest draw of all possible draws at Roland Garros:)

He is the easiest draw himself.

Manon
04-21-2008, 04:43 PM
Unfortunately expected:(

whist
04-21-2008, 04:44 PM
fair point, but he IS the president of the ATP Players Council...that should also tell you something about what his fellow pros think of him.

Oh, and I don't agree with the "Kuerten would never have won the French/Ljubicic would never have got to number 3" comments made earlier. Kuerten would have been a FO winner in most eras, and Ljubicic has as much talent as Magnus Norman or Michael Chang ever did.


Actually, I was ironic on that Guga`s statement :wavey: Because whatever era you find yourself in, you have to adjust your tennis and play the way you can to be a GS champion or No. 3 in the world. There is no need for Guga to say such things just to underastemate Ivan`s tennis.

scoobs
04-21-2008, 04:46 PM
With Guga these days it's not about the match, but the symbolism and the farewell. The match was as pedestrian and one-sided as I expected.

But it was nice to see him here nonetheless, on his farewell tour.

RickDaStick
04-21-2008, 04:47 PM
classy comments from Guga about Ivan's ranking. Hope he gets handed a triple bagel in his last match at RG

Voo de Mar
04-21-2008, 04:55 PM
But it was nice to see him here nonetheless, on his farewell tour.

Unfortunately this is the saddest farewell tour I've ever seen. What a pity that such a great player loses this way. I hope he'll get in the 1st round in Paris some young qualificant to avoid humiliation, to win at least first set...

GugaF1
04-21-2008, 05:01 PM
Actually, I was ironic on that Guga`s statement :wavey: Because whatever era you find yourself in, you have to adjust your tennis and play the way you can to be a GS champion or No. 3 in the world. There is no need for Guga to say such things just to underastemate Ivan`s tennis.

Can you show the link of this "supposed" comment that Guga made, before you spread all of this BS? you guys seems to have no class at all. Trying to trash on Guga now that he is down, just to create nonsense controversy.

I am sorry, If the tennis world finds Guga a more charismatic player (even when Injured) then Ljubicic will ever be. Ridiculous stuff, crying over a poll because people were favoring Guga. Of course,what do you expect. He is a multi slam champion, Former N.1 and one of the most charismatic Players, who is Ljubicic? I respect him as a player but, you can't compare a passing N.3 in the world with a mediocre record on Grand Slams. I think the crowd was more excited to watch Guga make one Game then they would be if Ljubicic Won the whole tournament....lol... sad but true..

Lee
04-21-2008, 05:03 PM
As a Guga fan, it's very painful to watch the match.


But as Burrow said, I will always remember Guga as a champion who's energetic, easy going, wearing his heart on his sleeve, with a great serve, lethal forehand and backhand who could play great on clay and hard court.

whist
04-21-2008, 05:14 PM
Can you show the link of this "supposed" comment that Guga made, before you spread all of this BS? you guys seems to have no class at all. Trying to trash on Guga now that he is down, just to create nonsense controversy.

I am sorry, If the tennis world finds Guga a more charismatic player (even when Injured) then Ljubicic will ever be. Ridiculous stuff, crying over a poll because people were favoring Guga. Of course,what do you expect. He is a multi slam champion, Former N.1 and one of the most charismatic Players, who is Ljubicic? I respect him as a player but, you can't compare a passing N.3 in the world with a mediocre record on Grand Slams. I think the crowd was more excited to watch Guga make one Game then they would be if Ljubicic Won the whole tournament....lol... sad but true..

That is what our comentator told on TV where I watched the match so I suppose that he wouldn`t said it if it wasn`t the true. I`m not saying anything about their careers, because it`s clearly who the better and more charismatic player was, I just said about Guga`s statement (of course if that is true). My deepest apologies to all of Brazilians and Guga himself if he didn`t say that :wavey:

MusicMyst
04-21-2008, 05:21 PM
If Guga wants a farewell tour, I would like to see each event simply drive him around the venue in a pimped-out convertible -- Guga perched on the top of the backseat beneath a Brazilian flag and holding his Roland Garros trophies -- rather than these painful beatdowns.

JMG
04-21-2008, 05:23 PM
:woohoo:

shotgun
04-21-2008, 05:34 PM
If it's any consolation, Vilas and Borg also retired in a very pathetic way.

sawan66278
04-21-2008, 06:00 PM
Can you show the link of this "supposed" comment that Guga made, before you spread all of this BS? you guys seems to have no class at all. Trying to trash on Guga now that he is down, just to create nonsense controversy.

I am sorry, If the tennis world finds Guga a more charismatic player (even when Injured) then Ljubicic will ever be. Ridiculous stuff, crying over a poll because people were favoring Guga. Of course,what do you expect. He is a multi slam champion, Former N.1 and one of the most charismatic Players, who is Ljubicic? I respect him as a player but, you can't compare a passing N.3 in the world with a mediocre record on Grand Slams. I think the crowd was more excited to watch Guga make one Game then they would be if Ljubicic Won the whole tournament....lol... sad but true..


EXCELLENT post. A quote without a source...something unheard of on MTF:rolleyes:

But truth be told, the sentiment behind the statement is true. Ljubicic may very well be the worst world #3 of all time (other than Brad Gilbert). How he made it that high is an awful statement about the era itself.

If Guga were even a third of the player he was in 2003 (not even at his peak), he would have defeated this loser in straight sets.

:sad::sad::sad::sad: The strokes are there...but the hip is not.:sad::sad::sad::sad:

Sjengster
04-21-2008, 06:10 PM
Well, in fairness Ljubicic did manage a win over Guga in 2001 when the latter was still no. 1, en route to winning his first title in Lyon, but then it was indoors and the hip problem was already starting to take effect.

Apemant
04-21-2008, 06:30 PM
If Guga were even a third of the player he was in 2003 (not even at his peak), he would have defeated this loser in straight sets.


You mean like in Rome 2001, shortly before he won his last RG: 6-7(4) 7-5 6-4

Quite a beatdown, can't disagree with that...

Bascule
04-21-2008, 06:30 PM
EXCELLENT post. A quote without a source...something unheard of on MTF:rolleyes:

But truth be told, the sentiment behind the statement is true. Ljubicic may very well be the worst world #3 of all time (other than Brad Gilbert). How he made it that high is an awful statement about the era itself.

If Guga were even a third of the player he was in 2003 (not even at his peak), he would have defeated this loser in straight sets.

:sad::sad::sad::sad: The strokes are there...but the hip is not.:sad::sad::sad::sad:



Sawan!:devil:
This avatar won't help you to look more masculine if you keep crying so much...:devil:

GugaF1
04-21-2008, 06:51 PM
You mean like in Rome 2001, shortly before he won his last RG: 6-7(4) 7-5 6-4

Quite a beatdown, can't disagree with that...


Well damn, on super fast Indoor carpet court, Ljubicic speciality with that serve. Beatdown? with a tie breaker 7-6(1) 6-2...

Let see where the real beatdown lies ... h2h Kuerten 5 - Ljubicic 1


http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/headtohead/default.asp?playernum1=L360&playernum2=K293

Voo de Mar
04-21-2008, 06:56 PM
Let see where the real beatdown lies ... h2h Kuerten 5 - Ljubicic 1


http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/headtohead/default.asp?playernum1=L360&playernum2=K293

Umag 1996: Kuerten def. Ljubicic 6-2 6-1

- 1st ATP tournament for Ljubo
- 6th ATP tournament for Guga

Apemant
04-21-2008, 07:02 PM
Well damn, on super fast Inddor carpet court, Ljubicic speciality. Beatdown? with a tie breaker 7-6(1) 6-2...

Eh? My scoreline was from the red clay of Rome, in 2001, when Kuerten was certainly still very good - at any rate, good enough to win RG several weeks later.


Let see where the real beatdown lies ... h2h Kuerten 5 - Ljubicic 1

Do we understand each other? There's no doubt that Guga is a great champion while Ljubo most clearly is not. Do you see me argue that?

What I detest are remarks like the one above ('Guga at 1/3 of himself would've destroyed this clown' or something analogous).

As if the difference between champions and wannabees isn't painfully obvious already - we need to blow it even further.

star
04-21-2008, 07:03 PM
If Guga wants a farewell tour, I would like to see each event simply drive him around the venue in a pimped-out convertible -- Guga perched on the top of the backseat beneath a Brazilian flag and holding his Roland Garros trophies -- rather than these painful beatdowns.

Guga just wants to feel the courts one more time. He wants to savor it. He doesn't care about his head to heads or anything else. It's hard to say good-bye to something you love. Everyone does it in their own way, and this is Guga's way. I'm glad he's giving the crowds one more chance to express their appreciation of him.

Deathless Mortal
04-21-2008, 07:03 PM
Expected, but still nice :)

GugaF1
04-21-2008, 07:15 PM
Eh? My scoreline was from the red clay of Rome, in 2001, when Kuerten was certainly still very good - at any rate, good enough to win RG several weeks later.




Do we understand each other? There's no doubt that Guga is a great champion while Ljubo most clearly is not. Do you see me argue that?

What I detest are remarks like the one above ('Guga at 1/3 of himself would've destroyed this clown' or something analogous).

As if the difference between champions and wannabees isn't painfully obvious already - we need to blow it even further.


Sorry, I missundestood you completelly..lol. I thought you were refering to that Lyon Match.

Well, I agree there is not much of a point for this farewell tour competetive wise. He doenst have the physical condition nor the match rythm to be keep competetive in MS and GS. But, the guy has enough credit to have his fun and retire the way he likes to. Plus I think will be fun for the crowds to see him in the court and I think if he gets a favorable opponent he can still make it fun for everybody, so why not.

Minotaur
04-21-2008, 07:19 PM
Current Guga sucks. He said goodbye to tennis in Brazil this year and wtf he now tries? What for? He just plain sucks

GugaF1
04-21-2008, 07:29 PM
Current Guga sucks. He said goodbye to tennis in Brazil this year and wtf he now tries? What for? He just plain sucks

Nothing, just to have fun. have one last visit to the places where he is a multi champion...

octatennis
04-21-2008, 07:55 PM
this matches doesn't matter, guga shows all his potencial in the past, and that's the reason cause he is going to be remenbered and either why he is going to be in the hall of fame. GUGA.

StevoTG
04-21-2008, 08:02 PM
Pretty sad to watch :sad:

Congrats to Ivan though.

Klaas_nalbandian
04-21-2008, 08:06 PM
hard to see guga losing to ljubo on clay. Guga was my hero for a long time

shotgun
04-21-2008, 09:47 PM
It could have been worse. He could have lost to Ljuba Truba in the first round of a Slam. :tape:

Machiavelli
04-21-2008, 09:53 PM
hard to see guga losing to ljubo on clay. Guga was my hero for a long time

Ljubo is too old for the ATP tour and way past his primetime, but if i am not wrong :devil: he was a Roland Garros semifinalist, it is not like Guga lost to Querrey or Isner, as Moya for example did....

Sofonda Cox
04-21-2008, 09:55 PM
WASTE OF A WILDCARD!!!!! :retard:

StevoTG
04-21-2008, 10:30 PM
WASTE OF A WILDCARD!!!!! :retard:

Well I was sure to catch this match on Sky today. Had it of been Ljubicic -V- some other WC I may have gone to play tennis instead. Guga is still a crowd draw and therefor not a waste of a wildcard

Ackms421
04-21-2008, 11:07 PM
If Safin can do this day in and day out for a period of years, then Guga can do it for one last clay season...

Snowwy
04-21-2008, 11:10 PM
to Querrey or Isner, as Moya for example did....

He is currently the most underrated player on clay.

RagingLamb
04-21-2008, 11:11 PM
Guga did not belong out there. It really was painful to watch. He couldn't do anything. And watching him slam his racket was sad.

I'm scared to think how he'll fare at RG. With the way he was playing, it saddens me to say this, but I don't think he belongs on the pro tour.

Eviscerator
04-21-2008, 11:14 PM
but always the energetic, flamboyant character that triumphed at Roland Garros multiple times.

Well I will, anyway.

So will I.

He had an infectious personality and was a pleasure to watch over the years. Sadly the hip injury was his physical undoing, but his great personality will endure in the hearts and minds of tennis fans for many years to come.

`

Lee
04-21-2008, 11:17 PM
Guga did not belong out there. It really was painful to watch. He couldn't do anything. And watching him slam his racket was sad.

I'm scared to think how he'll fare at RG. With the way he was playing, it saddens me to say this, but I don't think he belongs on the pro tour.

That's the reason he retires, no?

leng jai
04-21-2008, 11:51 PM
The MTF clowns jinxed Guga. Or Guga is saving his best for RG.

RagingLamb
04-22-2008, 12:35 AM
That's the reason he retires, no?

why go out like this though? No one enjoyed that. Guga didn't like it, the fans didn't like it, hell even Lubja didn't seem to like it.

Lee
04-22-2008, 12:41 AM
why go out like this though? No one enjoyed that. Guga didn't like it, the fans didn't like it, hell even Lubja didn't seem to like it.

The answer is already in an earlier post here.

Guga just wants to feel the courts one more time. He wants to savor it. He doesn't care about his head to heads or anything else. It's hard to say good-bye to something you love. Everyone does it in their own way, and this is Guga's way. I'm glad he's giving the crowds one more chance to express their appreciation of him.

Scotso
04-22-2008, 01:18 AM
Guga is a nice guy and I respect his accomplishments, but players need to know when to call it quits.

I don't like that he's taking WCs away from young players that need both the money and the opportunity. He doesn't need either. If he wanted to say goodbye, he could just have a nice ceremony at Roland Garros. I'm sure they'd do it.

sawan66278
04-22-2008, 02:08 AM
Guga did not belong out there. It really was painful to watch. He couldn't do anything. And watching him slam his racket was sad.

I'm scared to think how he'll fare at RG. With the way he was playing, it saddens me to say this, but I don't think he belongs on the pro tour.


I hate to agree...the strokes were there...but no mobility at all. Can you imagine what would happen if he had to play Rafa or Ferrer in the first round? He would be fighting to simply win a few points here or there.:sad:

It could have been worse. He could have lost to Ljuba Truba in the first round of a Slam. :tape:

Not possible: Guga at 2% would never lose to Ljubicic. Why? Because Ivan goes through a sex change...and becomes a card carrying member of the WTA tour whenever he plays a grand slam match.

Mimi
04-22-2008, 02:08 AM
so sad to see the once king of clay went out like this :sad::sad:

Shox
04-22-2008, 03:03 AM
this was really a 6-0 6-1 match, at 5-0 and 5-1 Ljubicic didnt bother much on return. both were love games with Ivan not even going for the return or swinging as hard as possible

Turquoise
04-22-2008, 05:05 AM
The will was there, but "the hips don't lie". This is a personal crusade for Kuerten. Yes, he is a shadow of his former self, but the last thing he needs is our pity. I think he deserves the respect and acknowledgment of his wonderful contribution to tennis, and that's how I want to remember him.

By the way, I commend Ljubicic for the way he played and handled himself. It's tough to be the one to end a player's career or precipitate his retirement, but Ljubicic was focused, played well and did not let the occasion or the crowd get to him.

scarecrows
04-22-2008, 07:28 AM
I don't like that he's taking WCs away from young players that need both the money and the opportunity. He doesn't need either. If he wanted to say goodbye, he could just have a nice ceremony at Roland Garros. I'm sure they'd do it.

totally agree

there is no point asking for WC in 3 AMS tournaments when you barely can win a game. Just RG would have been enough

bokehlicious
04-22-2008, 07:36 AM
Nice one Ljuba Truba :yeah: watching Guga badly owned always makes me smile :)

leng jai
04-22-2008, 07:40 AM
Nice one Ljuba Truba :yeah: watching Guga badly owned always makes me smile :)

:retard:

bokehlicious
04-22-2008, 07:41 AM
:retard:

:hug: fanboy :hug:

keroni
04-22-2008, 09:43 AM
I hope this Kuerten gets Rafa in the first round of RG :)

Eden
04-22-2008, 08:00 PM
he won't be remember as the aging man plagued with injury limping around the court once he retires, but always the energetic, flamboyant character that triumphed at Roland Garros multiple times.

Well I will, anyway.

Guga just wants to feel the courts one more time. He wants to savor it. He doesn't care about his head to heads or anything else. It's hard to say good-bye to something you love. Everyone does it in their own way, and this is Guga's way. I'm glad he's giving the crowds one more chance to express their appreciation of him.

Couldn't agree with you more :yeah:


Kuerten believes his long goodbye is the only way to go
Tue, 22 Apr 2008

Monte Carlo - Gustavo Kuerten makes no apologies for a long goodbye from tennis which will last through his exit at the French Open. Instead of just walking out on the game after two hip surgeries which keep him from re-attaining world-class form, the 31-year-old has been playing his way into retirement, which will culminate at Roland Garros in May, the venue where he achieved his greatest success with three titles.
"I think it's a private decision, you have to feel happy, comfortable, self-secure," said Kuerten after losing easily in his Monte Carlo Masters goodbye against Ivan Ljubicic.
"I don't think it's good (to say) 'Oh, I finish, I go home, I pack my bags, I go there, nobody knows any more if I keep playing or not.'
"I'm my mind I always had this clear. I will make sure that this is going to be the end. I would have the time for myself, for the people, and just being sure that this is nice for me.
"It's gonna be an important experience."
Kuerten has lost in all three ATP matches he's played this season, winning his last match in February, 2007, over Italian Filippo Volandri.
But far from being discouraged, the South American who always had a smile on his face, is just happy to be getting one more chance at the limelight.
And there is no looking back: "It's trying to enjoy more and also believe that you make always the right decision. You don't get right all the time but you have to make sure you think try to get it right.
"I'm very tired. Last three, four years I have been fighting all the time, and I knew I did my best. I tried to find a way to get myself to compete again.
"And right now I'm really sure I cannot get to the level that I would like to compete."
Kuerten called his last tour "a chance for me to play once more, to have these feelings, to be around the crowd who come here and watch me for a little while.
"They go to the court where I'm practising, they (are) getting close."
Kuerten said that once on court against Ljubicic, he realized why he's calling it quits. "I didn't have any chance or any good feelings out there in the court."
The Brazilian will play on a wild card next week in Barcelona before Roland Garros begins on May 25.

Source: http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/200519,kuerten-believes-his-long-goodbye-is-the-only-way-to.html

Deboogle!.
04-22-2008, 08:01 PM
Guga :hug:

Scotso
04-23-2008, 01:19 AM
So Guga even thinks he can't win. That's pretty selfish. :shrug:

GlennMirnyi
04-23-2008, 04:17 AM
Roland Garros will be a similar experience for Guga I fear.

Even worse. A third set will be awful.

That pre-match thread and pole just tells you how much people here dislike Ljubičić. That is just pathetic. And from what I`ve heard, Guga told in his interview (don`t know when that was) that Ljubičić wouldn`t be a Top 3 player 10 years back, which is really pathetic statement. The same way, Guga would have never won an RG title or be No. 1 in the world (or even top 3 these days) if he was playing in this era.

Guga won RG when the circuit was much stronger. Get a clue before spewing :bs:.

totally agree

there is no point asking for WC in 3 AMS tournaments when you barely can win a game. Just RG would have been enough

The tournaments invited him, it's not like he's paying. They know even his presence in a hospital bed will attract the crowds. He's a major legend in the game. Waste is giving WCs to two players that could pretty much play the quali, like Ancic and Safin.

So Guga even thinks he can't win. That's pretty selfish. :shrug:

He's doing a farewell tour. If you don't care, just keep it for you. He's a major legend in this game, so I'm sure a fanboy like you won't understand.

Maybe they should give doper Karol Beck a WC?

FedFan_2007
04-23-2008, 04:21 AM
Imagine in 8 years Fed will be doing this kind of farewell tour. *YIKES*

finishingmove
04-23-2008, 05:50 AM
and in 20 years he can play exhibitions with rafa. on clay

leng jai
04-23-2008, 08:03 AM
This settles it, Ljubo > Guga on clay.