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Federer def. Hanescu 6-3, 6-2

Sjengster
04-17-2008, 03:07 PM
Still quite patchy, but more good patches than bad, the backhand in particular was much improved. Once he's able to hit dropshots over the net with any kind of consistency he'll be in better shape, it was quite amusing to see him try one out of stubbornness at 5-2, 40-0 and even though it went in, he still lost the point and got pushed to deuce.

fsoica
04-17-2008, 03:07 PM
My countrymen, Hanescu, is a total mug.
Federer was not at all tested.
1 hour training during a rainy day.

Sjengster
04-17-2008, 03:09 PM
He wasn't a mug the last time he ran into Federer, was he, considering the players he beat at RG - Chela, Horna and Nalbandian back-to-back-to-back is quite an impressive feat, and not the kind of draw Federer would want in Paris.

nanoman
04-17-2008, 03:11 PM
Fed was hitting the ball quite well. On the other hand, Hanescu does nothing with the ball and contributed to a nice practice session.

fsoica
04-17-2008, 03:12 PM
He wasn't a mug the last time he ran into Federer, was he, considering the players he beat at RG - Chela, Horna and Nalbandian back-to-back-to-back is quite an impressive feat, and not the kind of draw Federer would want in Paris.

Yeah, you're right, was an exceptional RG for Hanescu.
The only big tournament he played at his best.
He'll never be in top 50.

ionah
04-17-2008, 03:13 PM
Roger's carbuncle looks like it is filled with a lot of pus... you can see a lot of white matter in the top of the carbuncle, it is so gross and disgusting... he is going to need tons of antibiotics to get rid off the repulsive infection he has in his body... :bolt: :unsure: :ras: :scared: :ignore: :speakles: :shout: :haha: :lol: :rolls:

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 03:15 PM
Finally a decent match from Roger. It's been a while. Good to see his backhand working today - more points made with the BH than with the FH even! :yeah:

But it's hard to tell whether this solid victory wasn't for a great deal the result of a very mediocre playing by Hanescu. He even stopped trying during that second set IMHO.

Funny to see Fed trying out some stuff in the last few games, resulting in a weak final game. Whatever...

Good win, Feds. Keep it going! :D

Apemant
04-17-2008, 03:15 PM
Still quite patchy, but more good patches than bad, the backhand in particular was much improved. Once he's able to hit dropshots over the net with any kind of consistency he'll be in better shape, it was quite amusing to see him try one out of stubbornness at 5-2, 40-0 and even though it went in, he still lost the point and got pushed to deuce.

:lol: I can totally imagine this

Was it Murray who tried like 4 dropshots in row, missing all of them? :devil:

BTW, anyone has any stats for this match? How many UEs from Fed, 1st round he had a gazillion or two.

Sjengster
04-17-2008, 03:16 PM
Next match he'll have the crowd against him either way, could be an enjoyable encounter.

KaiserChief
04-17-2008, 03:16 PM
Roger's carbuncle looks like it is filled with a lot of pus... you can see a lot of white matter in the top of the carbuncle, it is so gross and disgusting... he is going to need tons of antibiotics to get rid off the repulsive infection he has in his body...:bolt::unsure::ras::scared::ignore: :speakles: :rolls::shout::haha::lol:
He just need to squeez it :haha::haha::haha:

I really hope that he has tested himself for diabetes. This is very , very strange

jasmin
04-17-2008, 03:17 PM
So anyway, so does anyone know how Fed played?

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 03:19 PM
BTW, anyone has any stats for this match? How many UEs from Fed, 1st round he had a gazillion or two.

They didn't show the stats where I was watching, but I don't think I saw more than just a few UEs from Fed (some silly dropshots, as mentioned before). Completely the opposite of his match against Rochus - serve wasn't that impressive, but on all other accounts he played a lot, lot better.

FedFan_2007
04-17-2008, 03:19 PM
The pus beat the mug. 'Nuff said.

jasmin
04-17-2008, 03:20 PM
Well not too many players want to meet Fed although they now feel they can beat him. Maybe Federer just made it hared for dude to play his game.

Sjengster
04-17-2008, 03:20 PM
:lol: I can totally imagine this

Was it Murray who tried like 4 dropshots in row, missing all of them? :devil:

BTW, anyone has any stats for this match? How many UEs from Fed, 1st round he had a gazillion or two.

I don't have the stats but after a rash of mishits in the first few games the only really bad errors were these dropshots that barely even made it to the net. He can hit some beauties, I remember a faded backhand angle cross-court off the return against Mathieu in Rome some years ago, but overall they're outweighed by the clunkers. Roche even laughed at one attempt early on in his match with Coria at Hamburg 2005.

scarecrows
04-17-2008, 03:20 PM
good match from Federer although Hanescu seemed like he wasnt dealing well with the slow dump court. Much better BH and also good court coverage

hilarious stuff with those dropshots, half of them were bouncing on Fed's court before reaching the net

MrChopin
04-17-2008, 03:24 PM
Roger's carbuncle looks like it is filled with a lot of pus... you can see a lot of white matter in the top of the carbuncle, it is so gross and disgusting... he is going to need tons of antibiotics to get rid off the repulsive infection he has in his body... :bolt: :unsure: :ras: :scared: :ignore: :speakles: :shout: :haha: :lol: :rolls:

An "appropriate" medical timeout should take care of things.

Uraitan
04-17-2008, 03:24 PM
Good win Roger ... :bounce:

GO GO FEDERER :rocker2:

pkubik
04-17-2008, 03:25 PM
terrible match by Hanescu, ive never seen him playing so badly...

BlueSwan
04-17-2008, 03:25 PM
Good win. Bring on the next mug.

Himura
04-17-2008, 03:29 PM
Best match from feds this year...okey hanescu did not have any weapons to hurt him but very solid. His movment and timing seems to be much better now. Hope he can countinue like this.

ohhh one more thing....his returns of the backhand wing was great

stebs
04-17-2008, 03:32 PM
Great second set from Federer which is all I saw and he was hitting with authority but he has been able to beat weaker players this year without a lot of trouble, with the exception of Fish (who played a great match) he has only lost to good players. I think we can only judge his form by a match against a better player.

ciprianned
04-17-2008, 03:35 PM
terrible match by Hanescu, ive never seen him playing so badly...
:((((((((((((((((

Himura
04-17-2008, 03:35 PM
Great second set from Federer which is all I saw and he was hitting with authority but he has been able to beat weaker players this year without a lot of trouble, with the exception of Fish (who played a great match) he has only lost to good players. I think we can only judge his form by a match against a better player.

Very true...I agree but today i saw little of the old fed....different from other matchers this year

stebs
04-17-2008, 03:37 PM
Very true...I agree but today i saw little of the old fed....different from other matchers this year

:shrug: Federer played great at times in early rounds of IW and Miami and still looked average when he faced better opposition.

Kolya
04-17-2008, 03:39 PM
Nadal is so scared now :p

Himura
04-17-2008, 03:40 PM
:shrug: Federer played great at times in early rounds of IW and Miami and still looked average when he faced better opposition.

yeah true...but today he moved alot better witch is the key for him and his greatest weapon.....he did move quite well in some matches in IW and Miami bur today he moved very well. It think thats the differens

Himura
04-17-2008, 03:41 PM
Nadal is so scared now :p

LOL yeah right....I think Nadal sleeps on clay at home

arm
04-17-2008, 03:55 PM
that's more like it. He played much, much better than he did with Rochus.

I guess playing Estoril was a good choice after all.

BlueSwan
04-17-2008, 04:11 PM
Best match from feds this year

I swear that every time Federer has put in a half-decent performance this year, someone will name it his best performance of the year, somehow forgetting that he has infact played a few really good matches.

While I didn't see the Hanescu match, I refuse to believe that Federer played better than against Santoro at the AO - that was flawless show-off tennis.

arm
04-17-2008, 04:13 PM
I swear that every time Federer has put in a half-decent performance this year, someone will name it his best performance of the year, somehow forgetting that he has infact played a few really good matches.

While I didn't see the Hanescu match, I refuse to believe that Federer played better than against Santoro at the AO - that was flawless show-off tennis.

So true.

But that can easily be explained. As federer ende up losing a match even in those tournaments where he played well in some matches, people think that he wasn't in good shape. So if he loses, he was ill and couldn't possiblity have played well in any previous match.

=/

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 04:15 PM
So true.

But that can easily be explained. As federer ende up losing a match even in those tournaments where he played well in some matches, people think that he wasn't in good shape. So if he loses, he was ill and couldn't possiblity have played well in any previous match.

=/

He WAS ill, even though he did play some good matches. Heavens, does the guy really have to post his doctors' attests to MTF in order for people to believe he was?

Sjengster
04-17-2008, 04:17 PM
I don't think arm is saying he wasn't ill, just that people have suggested he can't have played a decent match this year due to the illness, which isn't true. Much has been dependent on the level of opponent, I remember people predicting he'd sweep to victory at the AO after the rout of Santoro and the next match was an eye-opener for everyone, including me. I just pray that he doesn't get a single walkover or retirement from now on this year, he got one of each in IW and Miami and with his lack of match sharpness they did him far more harm than good.

Himura
04-17-2008, 04:17 PM
I swear that every time Federer has put in a half-decent performance this year, someone will name it his best performance of the year, somehow forgetting that he has infact played a few really good matches.

While I didn't see the Hanescu match, I refuse to believe that Federer played better than against Santoro at the AO - that was flawless show-off tennis.

Actually this is the first time I have said it....And I mean it...I explaind it earlier...it`s his movement that was really good and that is why I think it was his best match of the year. When he moves well he playes great...it`s his best weapon. I could be wrong I don`t know...just my opinion.

scarecrows
04-17-2008, 04:20 PM
While I didn't see the Hanescu match, I refuse to believe that Federer played better than against Santoro at the AO - that was flawless show-off tennis.

i saw both and Federer played way better against Santoro

Meadowsweet
04-17-2008, 04:21 PM
I really think he played well today, very well He just did't have to show everything, there was no need. I can't understand why some people think that his domination is over (well, actually a lot of people seem to think that his copmlete career is over), he is such an exceptional player, too good I dare to say, he can't go down after losing...what, 4 matches in 4 months? Give him a break, he was ill after all.

Himura
04-17-2008, 04:23 PM
I shoudn`t have said that...Maybe I went alittle overboard... It was a good preformence thou

tennis2tennis
04-17-2008, 04:26 PM
Whose Romania's best player? I'd love for that country to produce another Ilie Nastase?

arm
04-17-2008, 04:27 PM
He WAS ill, even though he did play some good matches. Heavens, does the guy really have to post his doctors' attests to MTF in order for people to believe he was?

I don't think arm is saying he wasn't ill, just that people have suggested he can't have played a decent match this year due to the illness, which isn't true. Much has been dependent on the level of opponent, I remember people predicting he'd sweep to victory at the AO after the rout of Santoro and the next match was an eye-opener for everyone, including me. I just pray that he doesn't get a single walkover or retirement from now on this year, he got one of each in IW and Miami and with his lack of match sharpness they did him far more harm than good.

looks like Sjengster understood me very well.

I never said he never was ill. But it's annoying that people think that the only reason why the other players beat him was his illness. Come on, give the other players some respect. Besides, Federer did play some good matches eventhough he was ill. That's a fact.

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 04:30 PM
I don't think arm is saying he wasn't ill, just that people have suggested he can't have played a decent match this year due to the illness, which isn't true. Much has been dependent on the level of opponent, I remember people predicting he'd sweep to victory at the AO after the rout of Santoro and the next match was an eye-opener for everyone, including me. I just pray that he doesn't get a single walkover or retirement from now on this year, he got one of each in IW and Miami and with his lack of match sharpness they did him far more harm than good.

Thanks for correcting me if indeed I misinterpreted arm's words.
You are entirely right here, in line with what I posted myself: it is hard to say whether he indeed was that good today, or that his performance merely looked like that because his opponent was allowing him to do so.
I tend towards the latter myself, as I just cannot believe that the player who was having so much of a struggle with Rochus only two days ago, is now all of a sudden back to JediFed-mode... so I am still cautious with my expectations for Fed.
And as you say - a 'weak' draw is NOT always to a player's advantage. ;)

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 04:32 PM
looks like Sjengster understood me very well.

I never said he never was ill. But it's annoying that people think that the only reason why the other players beat him was his illness. Come on, give the other players some respect. Besides, Federer did play some good matches eventhough he was ill. That's a fact.

I apologize for having misinterpreted your words, and fully agree with you.
Djoko, Muzza and Roddick fully deserved their victories. I'm a little less convinced in the case of Fish (no insult to Fish fans meant here btw), as Fed indeed seemed to be entirely off that day.

Kitty de Sade
04-17-2008, 04:37 PM
Good news- hope to see more of these W's for Fed. :yeah:

arm
04-17-2008, 04:42 PM
I apologize for having misinterpreted your words, and fully agree with you.
Djoko, Muzza and Roddick fully deserved their victories. I'm a little less convinced in the case of Fish (no insult to Fish fans meant here btw), as Fed indeed seemed to be entirely off that day.

That's ok. =)

I am glad there are still some Fed fans who can admit when some other player did good against him.. You're one of a kind I guess.

jonny84
04-17-2008, 04:42 PM
Nice and easier win for Federer.

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 04:43 PM
That's ok. =)

I am glad there are still some Fed fans who can admit when some other player did good against him.. You're one of a kind I guess.

There are more of us around, just have a good look.
Not all fans are tards. ;)

ZakMcCrack
04-17-2008, 04:47 PM
Roger's carbuncle looks like it is filled with a lot of pus... you can see a lot of white matter in the top of the carbuncle, it is so gross and disgusting... he is going to need tons of antibiotics to get rid off the repulsive infection he has in his body... :bolt: :unsure: :ras: :scared: :ignore: :speakles: :shout: :haha: :lol: :rolls:

Jepp, and you were obviously staring into your very own beginning and origins - must have been quite an overwhelming experience to you, hum? Still, you definitely know how to focus on what really matters....don't you, lil' pimplehead? :wavey:

arm
04-17-2008, 04:48 PM
There are more of us around, just have a good look.
Not all fans are tards. ;)

Yes I know.. =)

And yes, not all fans are tards. And I believe that applies to me to. :)

Corey Feldman
04-17-2008, 04:55 PM
i'll take it

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 04:55 PM
Me too. :D

FedFan_2007
04-17-2008, 04:59 PM
Karin - in hindsight Fed never should have admitted the mono. It's punctured his aura.

Burrow
04-17-2008, 05:12 PM
Roger's carbuncle looks like it is filled with a lot of pus... you can see a lot of white matter in the top of the carbuncle, it is so gross and disgusting... he is going to need tons of antibiotics to get rid off the repulsive infection he has in his body... :bolt: :unsure: :ras: :scared: :ignore: :speakles: :shout: :haha: :lol: :rolls:

atleast he doesn't have a face like djokovic

Apemant
04-17-2008, 05:25 PM
yeah true...but today he moved alot better witch is the key for him and his greatest weapon.....he did move quite well in some matches in IW and Miami bur today he moved very well. It think thats the differens

Lately I'm inclined to consider his great movement more of a neccessity for his playing style, than a weapon on its own. He seems to rely on proper positioning so much that if his body doesn't get him there in the right moment (as he is used to), even his shots don't seem to work as they are supposed to.

RogiFan88
04-17-2008, 05:37 PM
I don't have the stats but after a rash of mishits in the first few games the only really bad errors were these dropshots that barely even made it to the net. He can hit some beauties, I remember a faded backhand angle cross-court off the return against Mathieu in Rome some years ago, but overall they're outweighed by the clunkers. Roche even laughed at one attempt early on in his match with Coria at Hamburg 2005.

oh yeah, I remember one of those clay TMS finals in 05 where TFA d Guille, probably was Roma, that marathon -- it was a case of a "dropshot too far" for Guille, which sealed his fate... many players overdo the dropshot or miscalculate esp when they're too tired or lazy to do it properly -- NTG comes to mind :p

RogiFan88
04-17-2008, 05:38 PM
Karin - in hindsight Fed never should have admitted the mono. It's punctured his aura.

what aura?

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 05:41 PM
what aura?

I have no idea either. :confused:

FedFan_2007
04-17-2008, 06:17 PM
I guess the aura was lost in those 2 losses to Canas.

Adler
04-17-2008, 06:18 PM
Saw some highlights of this one. More like a practice session than an ATP-level match

fsoica
04-17-2008, 06:24 PM
@Adler

where did you see the highlights?

Adler
04-17-2008, 06:27 PM
@Adler
where did you see the highlights?
youtube, some greek user uploaded the end of both sets. Not much, but still better than nothing. My opinion was based on how effortless it was for Fed to play today, plus how this average S&V attempt was effective

elessar
04-17-2008, 06:32 PM
That FH drop shot on MP :drool: Roger you spoiled us :worship:

Good to read he had a functionning BH at least :hatoff:

Corey Feldman
04-17-2008, 06:54 PM
And next it looks like .. F.Gil (POR)

any portuguese posters to tell us how tough a match Roger will face here? ;) arm ???

arm
04-17-2008, 07:05 PM
And next it looks like .. F.Gil (POR)

any portuguese posters to tell us how tough a match Roger will face here? ;) arm ???

I am not the right person to tell you honestly. Justclaudia could help more than I can..

Well, from what I've heard, Gil is quite good on clay. He is ranked #146, which is not that bad.

However his match with João Sousa will only end tomorrow because of the rain. Which means that whoever wins tomorrow (it's likely to be Gil) will have to face federer just a few hours later.

I'm guessing Federer will have no problems at all.. but we never know.

:)

Corey Feldman
04-17-2008, 07:09 PM
How was Roger's garfunkel looking today? has it burst yet?

as long as it starts to decrease i guess :scared:

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 07:10 PM
How was Roger's garfunkel looking today? has it burst yet?

as long as it starts to decrease i guess :scared:

Do a search for pictures, plenty around. Don't really know why you want to know btw. :p

arm
04-17-2008, 07:14 PM
How was Roger's garfunkel looking today? has it burst yet?

as long as it starts to decrease i guess :scared:

it looks strange. it's bloated..

Corey Feldman
04-17-2008, 07:15 PM
Do a search for pictures, plenty around. Don't really know why you want to know btw. :pJust concern :scared:


it looks strange. it's bloated.. whats it been eating? :lol:

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 07:17 PM
Just concern :scared:

:lol:

whats it been eating? :lol:

That bee that stung Fed. Nobody toys with Feddie Boy!

Corey Feldman
04-17-2008, 07:21 PM
It was the same Bee (released from a jar by a Fedtard who trained it too attack) that stung Rafa in Marseille a few years ago and cost him the match ;)

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 07:23 PM
It was the same Bee (released from a jar by a Fedtard who trained it too attack) that stung Rafa in Marseille a few years ago and cost him the match ;)

My dear guys are really exaggerating it by now, both having had a Bee incident! :mad:

groundstroke
04-17-2008, 07:24 PM
Federer played bad for his standard, however he played more convincing. Federer fans don't feel happy with this, he still made some ridiculous shots today.

Corey Feldman
04-17-2008, 07:24 PM
Rafa's revenge :mad: they will find a jar with his finger prints on it

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 07:30 PM
Federer played bad for his standard, however he played more convincing. Federer fans don't feel happy with this, he still made some ridiculous shots today.

Come on, don't be silly - he was a lot better than against Rochus. And nobody is saying he is back on his level of old - but the improvement was clearly visible, expecially on his BH. Those ridiculous shots he played were mainly things he tried out but which didn't work out well, but they didn't need to, as it was obvious that Fed was going to win this match right from the start.

Rafa's revenge :mad: they will find a jar with his finger prints on it

Nah... Raf will probably thank Feds for taking care of that bee. :angel:

rofe
04-17-2008, 07:42 PM
That FH drop shot on MP :drool: Roger you spoiled us :worship:

Good to read he had a functionning BH at least :hatoff:

It almost seemed as though he felt dirty executing that shot. :lol:

elessar
04-17-2008, 08:40 PM
It almost seemed as though he felt dirty executing that shot. :lol:
What do you mean "almost" :lol: we all know drop shots are beneath him

Nidhogg
04-17-2008, 09:17 PM
I am not the right person to tell you honestly. Justclaudia could help more than I can..

Well, from what I've heard, Gil is quite good on clay. He is ranked #146, which is not that bad.

However his match with Joăo Sousa will only end tomorrow because of the rain. Which means that whoever wins tomorrow (it's likely to be Gil) will have to face federer just a few hours later.

I'm guessing Federer will have no problems at all.. but we never know.

:)

Hah, that would be harsch. I saw the match and they both played pretty well, despite the wind and some rain. Sousa really went for his shots, while Gil was fast enough to get to them most of the time. The match stopped at 7-6 0-1 for Gil.

didadida
04-17-2008, 09:19 PM
:lol: I can totally imagine this

Was it Murray who tried like 4 dropshots in row, missing all of them? :devil:

BTW, anyone has any stats for this match? How many UEs from Fed, 1st round he had a gazillion or two.

25 ufs

cardio
04-17-2008, 09:22 PM
And next it looks like .. F.Gil (POR)

any portuguese posters to tell us how tough a match Roger will face here? ;) arm ???
here you can download 16 min. of todays Gil-Sousa action . They are both pretty good on clay, hard hitting,going for their shots, it is not sure that Gil will win it tomorrow and play against Fed.
http://www.2shared.com/file/3159777/b0de2304/gil-sousa_part2.html

rofe
04-17-2008, 09:22 PM
What do you mean "almost" :lol: we all know drop shots are beneath him

Yeah, but it is good that he is trying to overcome his stubbornness/pride. Hope he continues to improve that shot during the clay season.

Sunset of Age
04-17-2008, 09:23 PM
here you can download 16 min. of todays Gil-Sousa action . They are both pretty good on clay, hard hitting,going for their shots, it is not sure that Gil will win it tomorrow and play against Fed.
http://www.2shared.com/file/3159777/b0de2304/gil-sousa_part2.html

Interesting... thanks for posting.

elessar
04-17-2008, 09:29 PM
Yeah, but it is good that he is trying to overcome his stubbornness/pride. Hope he continues to improve that shot during the clay season.
Completely agree, there's absolutely no reason a guy with his slice Bh and touch shouldn't be able to hit a good drop-shot :o

kobulingam
04-17-2008, 09:30 PM
Comparing Gil to Federer is like comparing poo to food.

sawan66278
04-17-2008, 09:33 PM
"Impressive" win from Federer. Please tell me: why does this tourney even exist? It may very well be the least impressive draw during the entire season. If Federer does not win the title---he is in worse shape than anyone thought.

kobulingam
04-17-2008, 09:35 PM
"Impressive" win from Federer. Please tell me: why does this tourney even exist? It may very well be the least impressive draw during the entire season. If Federer does not win the title---he is in worse shape than anyone thought.


Yet the two best claycourters that are playing this week are at Estoril.

Davydenko or Federer can rip apart Valencia's draw too.


The only good non-RG claycourt tournaments are MC and especially Rome (the one where every top player shows up).

Corey Feldman
04-17-2008, 09:35 PM
Sawan, this draw is still nothing compared to Chennai and Rafa's draw - lets look at his first 3 rounds there ... Montcourt, Ram, G.Lopez

at least Rochus and Hanescu have done something and have some clay court background

Nidhogg
04-17-2008, 09:39 PM
"Impressive" win from Federer. Please tell me: why does this tourney even exist? It may very well be the least impressive draw during the entire season. If Federer does not win the title---he is in worse shape than anyone thought.

I wouldn't be the least surprised if Davydenko beats him in the final, since Roger is nowhere near his old self.

rofe
04-17-2008, 09:54 PM
Completely agree, there's absolutely no reason a guy with his slice Bh and touch shouldn't be able to hit a good drop-shot :o

He does hit a good BH dropshot on occasion (even on non-clay surfaces) and that is why it is all the more puzzling why he doesn't extend that shot to the FH.

elessar
04-17-2008, 10:00 PM
He does hit a good BH dropshot on occasion (even on non-clay surfaces) and that is why it is all the more puzzling why he doesn't extend that shot to the FH.
Yes but he also hits some real shocker, especially on clay which I find really puzzling. The only explanation is that he doesn't like it and lets it affect his shots :shrug: hope Higueras can drill it into him

Marek.
04-17-2008, 10:00 PM
Sawan, this draw is still nothing compared to Chennai and Rafa's draw - lets look at his first 3 rounds there ... Montcourt, Ram, G.Lopez

at least Rochus and Hanescu have done something and have some clay court background

He'll just say that Nadal had to deal with Moya and Youzhny later on. :shrug: Fed will probably have to play Davydenko to win the title and that is no easy feat. If Fed just wanted some dinky clay title right now he could have played Valencia or Houston.

DDrago2
04-17-2008, 10:17 PM
If Federer does not win the title---he is in worse shape than anyone thought.

Davydenko is in the draw. On clay, he is probably top 3. Federer got lucky last year in FO to beat him in three sets. If Fed loses to Davydenko in finals it will be no big surprise

gnaz
04-17-2008, 11:14 PM
If Fed loses to Davydenko in finals it will be no big surprise

Agree.

scarecrows
04-17-2008, 11:20 PM
here you can download 16 min. of todays Gil-Sousa action . They are both pretty good on clay, hard hitting,going for their shots, it is not sure that Gil will win it tomorrow and play against Fed.
http://www.2shared.com/file/3159777/b0de2304/gil-sousa_part2.html

from what i saw on TV Gil looked superior, as their ranking shows
but he'll need to sweat to win that 2nd set and later he'll have to play Federer

I wonder why they put Federer's match before Davydenko's in tomorrow's OOP. Very strange since Gil/Sousa will have very little time to recover

rofe
04-17-2008, 11:32 PM
from what i saw on TV Gil looked superior, as their ranking shows
but he'll need to sweat to win that 2nd set and later he'll have to play Federer

I wonder why they put Federer's match before Davydenko's in tomorrow's OOP. Very strange since Gil/Sousa will have very little time to recover

OT: Is that Aphex Twin in your avatar?

Sunset of Age
04-18-2008, 12:00 AM
I wonder why they put Federer's match before Davydenko's in tomorrow's OOP. Very strange since Gil/Sousa will have very little time to recover

Yes, that's nothing else than completely :smash:.
I hope it's a mistake and they correct this, it would not be fair to Roger's opponent! :(

scarecrows
04-18-2008, 12:11 AM
OT: Is that Aphex Twin in your avatar?

damn right

groundstroke
04-18-2008, 12:16 AM
By the way, Davydenko will reach the final of this tournament, he's been way too consistent recently. I still think Federer will beat him.

Alex999
04-18-2008, 12:20 AM
Nice win for Fed. Congrats to his fans here. I really hope he makes it to the final.

Sunset of Age
04-18-2008, 12:23 AM
By the way, Davydenko will reach the final of this tournament, he's been way too consistent recently. I still think Federer will beat him.

Both Fed and Denko had a bit of a struggle during their first round matches (the problems of adjusting to a new surface I guess), but I think indeed both should be able to make it to the finals. Who will win there? I have no idea to be honest. Denko is in great form, while I still have to see more of Roger to be able to say anything about his...
Whatever, I hope they indeed make it to the final and we'll be able to see a really good match.

Corey Feldman
04-18-2008, 12:31 AM
Imagine if Federer doesnt reach the Final here ..

i'll be holding FedFan2007's hand as we jump of that bridge together

Sunset of Age
04-18-2008, 12:34 AM
Imagine if Federer doesnt reach the Final here ..

i'll be holding FedFan2007's hand as we jump of that bridge together

Bunch of Drama Queens, you are. :( :p

Corey Feldman
04-18-2008, 12:38 AM
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/spezial/Fool/obm.gifhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/spezial/Fool/obm.gif

Alex999
04-18-2008, 12:39 AM
Imagine if Federer doesnt reach the Final here ..

i'll be holding FedFan2007's hand as we jump of that bridge together

:lol::lol::lol:

sawan66278
04-18-2008, 07:08 AM
Yet the two best claycourters that are playing this week are at Estoril.

Davydenko or Federer can rip apart Valencia's draw too.


The only good non-RG claycourt tournaments are MC and especially Rome (the one where every top player shows up).

So why not simply scrap the rest of the draw (which is the equivalent of a WTA bracket) and just play the final? As a matter of fact, I was looking to see if Serena entered this week...given that she says she only fears Rafa, Fed, and Santoro.:rolleyes:

Sawan, this draw is still nothing compared to Chennai and Rafa's draw - lets look at his first 3 rounds there ... Montcourt, Ram, G.Lopez

at least Rochus and Hanescu have done something and have some clay court background

As someone stated, at least Moya and Misha were there...but never underestimate the potential dangers of Mountblanc, Battering Ram, and George Lopez.;)

Marek.
04-18-2008, 07:10 AM
As someone stated, at least Moya and Misha were there...but never underestimate the potential dangers of Mountblanc, Battering Ram, and George Lopez.;)

:spit: Just admit Chennai was as MM as this event or even more.

sawan66278
04-18-2008, 07:22 AM
:spit: Just admit Chennai was as MM as this event or even more.

If Chennai was a MM event, than Estoril is a Donald Duck tourney.

FedFan_2007
04-18-2008, 08:36 AM
Imagine if Federer doesnt reach the Final here ..

i'll be holding FedFan2007's hand as we jump of that bridge together

:sad: nice to know there are fellow suicidal Fed fans.

cardio
04-18-2008, 08:59 AM
I wonder why they put Federer's match before Davydenko's in tomorrow's OOP. Very strange since Gil/Sousa will have very little time to recover
Organizers often make stupid schedules to please TV companies. I guess Eurosport wants to show Fed QF on their main channel and Davydenko`s QF on Eurosport2. Federer of course makes always better TV ratings than Davydenko.
http://yahoo.eurosport.com/tvschedule_clng0.shtml

BlueSwan
04-18-2008, 10:52 AM
No worries. This proved to be a light workout for Federico Gil, who won the second set 6-2. Infact, this will probably only benefit him - effectively working as a practice session on the very same court where he'll face Federer in a few hours.

Obviously, Federer still has to win this.

HNCS
04-18-2008, 12:01 PM
Lately I'm inclined to consider his great movement more of a neccessity for his playing style, than a weapon on its own. He seems to rely on proper positioning so much that if his body doesn't get him there in the right moment (as he is used to), even his shots don't seem to work as they are supposed to.

would like to agree with this. Fed's game is one of the most intricate games on tour and perfected. Which is why it took him a long time to break through - getting a handle of his game.

and even the tiniest of health problems can disrupt this, because his game needs otpimum condition. which is why his past 4 years of dominance is even more impressive.

HNCS
04-18-2008, 12:06 PM
So why not simply scrap the rest of the draw (which is the equivalent of a WTA bracket) and just play the final? As a matter of fact, I was looking to see if Serena entered this week...given that she says she only fears Rafa, Fed, and Santoro.:rolleyes:





:eek: she seriously said that? Gosh, she's beyond me.

HeretiC
04-18-2008, 12:40 PM
:sad: nice to know there are fellow suicidal Fed fans.

BTW, what are you doing still posting, why haven't you already jump of that bridge? How come you are not sticking to your promises? :devil:

Marek.
04-18-2008, 04:22 PM
If Chennai was a MM event, than Estoril is a Donald Duck tourney.

I don't see any reason why Chennai > Estoril. :shrug:

HNCS
04-18-2008, 04:26 PM
actually never mind...

Sunset of Age
04-18-2008, 04:53 PM
I don't see any reason why Chennai > Estoril. :shrug:

Nobody with an open mind and just a mere couple of working brain cells does.

Apemant
04-18-2008, 08:47 PM
:eek: she seriously said that? Gosh, she's beyond me.

I guess it was some kind of joke and a bit of flattery to those guys - she can't seriously be that deluded.

ionah
04-18-2008, 09:08 PM
So many great claycourters playing in Valencia this year...

So many mugs playing in Estoril this year.

Estoril 2008 is the worst MM tournament ever. :haha: