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Federer to play DC relegation tie in september

fsoica
04-17-2008, 01:51 PM
Details on the official site:
http://www.rogerfederer.com/en/rogers/news/newsdetail.cfm?uNewsID=712

Do you think this has to do with the 2009 changes in the rankings calculation ?

stebs
04-17-2008, 01:54 PM
Details on the official site:
http://www.rogerfederer.com/en/rogers/news/newsdetail.cfm?uNewsID=712

Do you think this has to do with the 2009 changes in the rankings calculation ?

He has always tried to keep Switzerland in the world group so I don't think so but there will be eyeborws raised if he gets his nation into the WG and then starts playing ties all of a sudden.

Castafiore
04-17-2008, 01:56 PM
Hardly breaking news. He always plays this part of the DC.


Having said that: good luck, Belgium. :)
(we'll probably need it)

luxsword
04-17-2008, 02:00 PM
IMHO, either he should play the whole of DC or none at all.

scarecrows
04-17-2008, 02:08 PM
if he wants to keep them in World Group he'd rather play the first round tie so they dont have to play playoffs afterwards

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 02:10 PM
Federer dons his Superman cape to save the Swiss DC team and get them into the World Group.

Then decides how much he really loves Davis Cup and will find that all of a sudden the desire returns in the year which happens to have ranking points awarded for participation.

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 02:11 PM
if he wants to keep them in World Group he'd rather play the first round tie so they dont have to play playoffs afterwards

Only been saying for that for the past 4 years.

jonny84
04-17-2008, 05:05 PM
Good. I think it should be mandatory that all top players play Davis Cup full stop.

TheBoiledEgg
04-17-2008, 05:08 PM
Roger likes to play weak teams in September :devil:

surely Wawrinka is able to win 1 match against most of WG these days ??

arm
04-17-2008, 05:13 PM
The points may be a motivation.

But I am sure the main and only reason is his wish to help his country. Besides, he normally plays DC, so no surprise here.

elessar
04-17-2008, 05:46 PM
Federer dons his Superman cape to save the Swiss DC team and get them into the World Group.

Then decides how much he really loves Davis Cup and will find that all of a sudden the desire returns in the year which happens to have ranking points awarded for participation.

I'm sure you're gonna think I'm trolling again (:angel:) but the changes that have been made in the calendar were some he'd been asking for, so if he plays it won't be because of the points :shrug:

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 05:49 PM
I'm sure you're gonna think I'm trolling again (:angel:) but the changes that have been made in the calendar were some he'd been asking for, so if he plays it won't be because of the points :shrug:

Well you are trolling, there will be points on offer, like I said, we all know what will count when it comes to DC from 2009, just be honest about it.

elessar
04-17-2008, 06:07 PM
Well you are trolling, there will be points on offer, like I said, we all know what will count when it comes to DC from 2009, just be honest about it.

Why do you always assume the worst, maybe he just wants to help his country and now that the ties fit his schedule better he's just glad he can finally do that :)

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 06:11 PM
Why do you always assume the worst, maybe he just wants to help his country and now that the ties fit his schedule better he's just glad he can finally do that :)

If he really gave a shit, he'd have played the 1st round ties, most of them were winnable. Get them through there and preserve WG status and not have to worry about playing play offs.

My main beef is this. Federer has said he cares about the history of the game. That's fine and all, but Davis Cup is a very historical event, so he uses that history line, when it suits him. I mean if he doesn't want to play, fair enough, just leave that other crap out of it.

Adler
04-17-2008, 06:16 PM
Well said

Deboogle!.
04-17-2008, 06:21 PM
When was the last time Fed made himself available for a tie? Might the olympics also be a consideration this year? If he didn't make himself available last year, he had to this year or he'd be ineligible.

elessar
04-17-2008, 06:29 PM
If he really gave a shit, he'd have played the 1st round ties, most of them were winnable. Get them through there and preserve WG status and not have to worry about playing play offs.
He just wants them to finally make it on their own, like Kwan-Tzu said : "If you give a man a fish, he will have a single meal. If you teach him how to fish, he will eat all his life."
My main beef is this. Federer has said he cares about the history of the game. That's fine and all, but Davis Cup is a very historical event, so he uses that history line, when it suits him. I mean if he doesn't want to play, fair enough, just leave that other crap out of it.
But that's like...normal I mean history won't remember HE won DC but that Switzerland did :sad: how unfair really

Castafiore
04-17-2008, 06:30 PM
When was the last time Fed made himself available for a tie?
last year:
http://www.daviscup.com/ties/tie.asp?tie=100008931

Deboogle!.
04-17-2008, 06:31 PM
oh ok so that's not an issue. thanks :)

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 06:38 PM
He just wants them to finally make it on their own, like Kwan-Tzu said : "If you give a man a fish, he will have a single meal. If you teach him how to fish, he will eat all his life."

Not at all, they don't have the depth. He comes in and looks like Superman for getting them into the World Group, makes himself look good in the process. Then pisses off because he can't handle playing a weekend in Feb, which more than likely will leave him free for the rest of the year as the Swiss make the QFs.

In other words he basically doesn't rate their abilities, well they don't have a good number 2 without Fed. So he doesn't play, they lose surprise surprise. He can come in with his red cape and save the day.

Awwwwww.

But that's like...normal I mean history won't remember HE won DC but that Switzerland did :sad: how unfair really

Rubbish. Croatia won DC, but people know Ljubicic had a huge role in that happening. Every team has their leader and star player.

Rationalise it all you want, but the facts are, he plays when it suits him. He should just be honest about it and spare the bullshit.

adee-gee
04-17-2008, 06:40 PM
Rankings whore :zzz:

anon57
04-17-2008, 06:45 PM
Not surprising, he's been playing the relegation ties in september for the last 2 years. I'll be more surprised if he starts playing the ties during the year in 2009.

shotgun
04-17-2008, 06:49 PM
He just wants them to finally make it on their own, like Kwan-Tzu said : "If you give a man a fish, he will have a single meal. If you teach him how to fish, he will eat all his life."

:lol:

Switzerland without Federer is not good enough to stay in the World Group, this has been shown already and Federer knows it. The only way for them to stay there is to get a lucky draw. Allegro, Bohli, Lammer etc. are not getting any better and Wawrinka is not good enough to carry the team on his back.

elessar
04-17-2008, 06:53 PM
He can come in with his red cape and save the day.

Awwwwww.

Roger in tights :drool:

Rubbish. Croatia won DC, but people know Ljubicic had a huge role in that happening. Every team has their leader and star player.

Rationalise it all you want, but the facts are, he plays when it suits him. He should just be honest about it and spare the bullshit.
Wawamug is not in Ancic's league, we all know it'd be Roger's victory and not Switzerland's :cool:

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 06:57 PM
Wawamug is not in Ancic's league, we all know it'd be Roger's victory and not Switzerland's :cool:

Slovakia got to a final with Karol Beck. It's always easy to blame Wawrinka, he is a very good number 2.

It doesn't matter you are just fangirling and looking for excuses to justify Federer not playing.

amirbachar
04-17-2008, 07:02 PM
if he wants to keep them in World Group he'd rather play the first round tie so they dont have to play playoffs afterwards

Not true, because they have more chance to win the PO than the first round.
But it has nothing to do with the round, it is just the fact that the PO is after all GS had finished before the PO.

Merton
04-17-2008, 07:12 PM
I don't mind it if a player chooses not to play in DC but either play or don't. Landing from an helicopter all of a sudden when a tie fits him can be annoying even for fans, the only surprising thing is that other fans find that surprising.

luvly1
04-17-2008, 07:55 PM
Roger plays DC every now and then which is fine. He played in the DC last year and played 3 rubbers. He won both of his singles matches and lost his doubles match it isn't his fault that no one else won anything. I understand why he doesn't play DC every single tie unlike most country's number 1's he has to play 3 matches and win them all in order for his team to win. Unless Wawarinka steps in up DC or a better number 2 pops up for the Swiss what roger does is fine. I mean we all know roger likes to get a much rest as possible he plays the fewest tournaments out of everyone in the top ten playing DC all year long would really mess up his training/rest time give him a break.

elessar
04-17-2008, 08:19 PM
Slovakia got to a final with Karol Beck. It's always easy to blame Wawrinka, he is a very good number 2.

It doesn't matter you are just fangirling and looking for excuses to justify Federer not playing.

Stani's wins in DC :
Mackin
Murray (on clay in 2005)
Guccione(on clay)
Luczak(on clay)
Koniusz
Voltchok (still got baggeled :worship:)
Ignatik :cool:

Wawamug's losses in DC :
Hanescu
Wessels
Shalken
Djokovic
Stepanek
Berdych

Not nr2 material

Merton
04-17-2008, 08:33 PM
Stani's wins in DC :
Mackin
Murray (on clay in 2005)
Guccione(on clay)
Luczak(on clay)
Koniusz
Voltchok (still got baggeled :worship:)
Ignatik :cool:

Wawamug's losses in DC :
Hanescu
Wessels
Shalken
Djokovic
Stepanek
Berdych

Not nr2 material

Interesting logic there, bringing in losses back in 2005 when Stan was not the player he is now together with losses against Stepanek, Berdych indoors. But I know you are just trolling :hug: Of course Stan is a solid Nr. 2.

Action Jackson
04-17-2008, 08:34 PM
Stani's wins in DC :
Mackin
Murray (on clay in 2005)
Guccione(on clay)
Luczak(on clay)
Koniusz
Voltchok (still got baggeled :worship:)
Ignatik :cool:

Wawamug's losses in DC :
Hanescu
Wessels
Shalken
Djokovic
Stepanek
Berdych

Not nr2 material

Conveniently forgetting when they were played. Djokovic, Schalken, Berdych and Stepanek on fast surfaces, like Stani is really expected to win those matches.

He has won the matches he should have won and lost the ones that he was expected to lose. Blaming Wawrinka for Federer's selfishness. Any more Federer propaganda you want to throw out there. Bastl, Lammer, Chiudinelli aren't going to do any better as number 2. Federer the big man, plays when we wants to.

I loved his insincere line, oh I'd like to win a Davis Cup, don't kid yourself, it was alright before he got to number 1. As I will say, he can do what he wants, just don't make excuses.

Corey Feldman
04-17-2008, 09:29 PM
Stani's wins in DC :
Mackin
Murray (on clay in 2005)
Guccione(on clay)
Luczak(on clay)
KoniuszStani will never come up against a harder DC match again than the fine, Alan Mackin :)

elessar
04-17-2008, 09:30 PM
Stani will never come up against a harder DC match again than the fine, Alan Mackin :)
Especially after the way Mackin pushed Federer in that tie

Corey Feldman
04-17-2008, 09:32 PM
Mackin's 2 greatest acchievements of his career - those 2 games he won :bowdown:

Dancing Hero
04-17-2008, 09:50 PM
Good to see Federer playing the DC all the same, it gives the event more meaning when the big guns participate.

Scotso
04-18-2008, 02:47 AM
Ego King :worship:

Switzerland's savior. How honored they must all be that he's decided to grace their team with his divine presence.