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What seems to be the problem?

my0118
04-14-2008, 01:38 PM
Well, I'm not sure if his currently tough time is just temporary, but at the moment, definitely there are some problems.
I remember when I became his fan. When I was watching his game, I thought I hadn't seen any player having such a decent talent like he has and I was so sure that nobody wouldn't be able to beat him if he just shows his talent. But the time wore on, getting to know about him, I realise again and again how much important mentality is after everytime he lost.
I'd like to discuss what makes him so down and what would be the main problem, with you Gasquet fans. We all know this season is such a letdown these days.
And plus what could bring him back? How do you feel about it? Let's talk.

This is a kind of whining thread. :lol:

lilibel13
04-14-2008, 03:54 PM
Well there is an article to discuss of his attitude by france info .fr
Meilleur joueur français à l’ATP et attendu comme un leader, le Biterrois a plus ou moins "séché" le quart de finale de la Coupe Davis, ce week-end. Une attitude qui commence à agacer jusque dans son camp.

Et si on ne pardonnait plus aux surdoués ? Virtuose précoce et surnommé "Mozart", longtemps superbe espoir du tennis français, Richard Gasquet a concentré un certain nombre de critiques ces dernières années. Au terme d’un week-end de Coupe Davis, où la France a chuté contre les USA en quart de finale, l’attitude du numéro un français pose la question de son leadership.

La première information de taille pendant ces trois jours aux Etats-Unis est tombé vendredi après-midi. Après Tsonga, Gasquet déclarait lui aussi forfait pour les simples, officiellement en raison d’une ampoule à la main accompagnée d’une tendinite au genou.
En conséquence, c’est Michael Llodra, Paul-Henri Mathieu et Arnaud Clément qui sont montés au filet tout au long du week-end, s’inclinant finalement, faute notamment d’un "vrai" leader.
Bâillements et SMS

Et d’avantage que son comportement "sportif", c’est maintenant une certaine désinvolture pendant les rencontres qui attire l’attention des médias. Richard Gasquet a été aperçu bâillant, impassible, plus concentré sur ses SMS que sur les performances de ses camarades. Se permettant jusqu’à une absence des gradins au moment de la balle de match remportée par les Français en double. Il n’a disputé que le cinquième match, sans enjeu.
Le commentaire de son entraîneur, Guy Forget (0'56")


Mais plutôt que d’évoquer uniquement d’un comportement de diva, il serait intéressant de s’interroger sur les vraies raisons contextuelles de cette phase de doutes que traverse, à seulement 21 ans, l’ex-huitième du classement ATP.
Sauf que pendant ces trois jours, un Paul-Henri Mathieu par exemple a certainement eu l’impression de se "faire un peu avoir", lâchant par exemple qu’il aurait préféré se faire dire "les choses en face", ajoutant "c’est comme si on m’envoyait à l’abattoir et que lui n’y allait pas".

Jozie
04-14-2008, 05:36 PM
I never got to watch the DC this weekend, however from all that I have read, it seemed to be another 'Damned if I do'... 'Damned if I don't' situation for Richard.I really feel for the guy, however I also salute PHM for taking on the challenge. A challenge, that in the past, Richard was happy to rise too. This time round, however, Richard was not up to the challenge. Richard has had a pretty poor season to date, some injuries, some bad losses, so why should he have been burdened with carrying the hopes of the French nation once again? I understand PHM was not too happy about the call for duty. Tsonga injured. Gilles Simon? (who in my opinion is also pretty talented), but not called on as a reserve this time.

Without a doubt, Richard's problem is too much pressure and expectation by all. Mentally, Richard knows his limitations, and therefore will not perform unless he knows he is able to achieve 100%. Clearly he does not want to disappoint his nation, fans, teammates, DC Captain, coach etc. So what now?

I get really mad that the press and even some fans build him up to be this "Wunderkind", and then, when he doesn't perform to their liking or expectation, he gets labelled 'overrated', 'underperformer', 'underachiever', etc etc.

In my opinion, Richard still needs to mature so much more. So, currently there are tennis players that are achieving great things at his age. I just wonder if the Djokovic's and Nadal's of the world will be able to maintain their winning ways at such a young age. Quite frankly, I don't really care. I know as a Gasquet fan, I can still look forward to some great tennis in the future.

Richard, when you are ready, in your own time ...... in the meantime, you still have my support and I am sure the support of many others.

Schu
04-14-2008, 07:32 PM
EXACTLY! Well said Jozie :worship: I'm with you on the support thing. Thanks for reminding us...

Getta
04-14-2008, 09:36 PM
Richard, when you are ready, in your own time ...... in the meantime, you still have my support and I am sure the support of many others.

EXACTLY! Well said Jozie :worship: I'm with you on the support thing. Thanks for reminding us...

Jozie, Ann. :hug:

Why do we need someone to remind us that Richie deserves our support whether he's winning or losing?

HoistDaColors
04-14-2008, 10:55 PM
I quite like Gasquet as a player. Over the weekend I have said some harsh things about him because I didn't understand why he decided to only the 5th rubber against blake and not against andy. After reading his interview, I understood some but still didn't completely comprehend his logic. Ultimately, he didn't have enough confidence against Roddick. Which was okay, since Davis Cup is a team sport and whoever feels the best at that moment should go out.

Here’s what I don’t understand: from his interview, he thinks that PHM had a chance against Roddick and that he could played the decisive 5th rubber against Blake, whom beat him convincingly in IW. Huh???? So Richie thinks he in worse shape than PHM but better than Llodra or Clement? He was willing to play a best-of-5 match, if it was necessary, against blake but not andy even though he beat andy and lost to blake the last times they met? And from PHM’s interview, it seemed like that Gasquet didn’t even talked to him about which match to play. How could he assumed that PHM was ready for Roddick? Gasquet told some journalists that he was going to play the 5th rubber only, before he even talked with his teammate? What? :confused::confused:And neither Forget, Richie nor PHM were saying stuff consistent with one another and so this is even harder to comprehend.

What I really want to know now is if PHM decided to not play, like if he said he was still demoralized by the loss to blake and didn’t want to go out, would Richie had step up? Because essentially, that was what PHM did for him. Richie didn’t feel confident against Roddick and so PHM went to the “slaughterhouse” for him. That’s the quality I wanted to see from Gasquet this weekend. I wanted him to say: “I am not confident right now against Roddick but if the team needs me, I am available for either of the matches.”

I didn’t want to see him having some attitude problems with Forget. I didn’t want to see him going behind his teammate’s back and pick and choose which match he wants to play. For him to go to the next level is for him to see an opponent which he doesn’t think he has a chance to win and say “I am going to go out there and just play my game. I am not going to carry a losing mentality.”

Anyhow, I blab way to much. What happened this weekend was a bit of a disappointment for me to see. I still like him as a player and still want to witness his success.

Allure
04-15-2008, 12:13 AM
I have been thinking about this as well and was about to make the same thread. I'm worried for him. When I first became a fan of Richard, I thought he was so talented and that he had a great future ahead of him. Fast forward three years later and he is moving backwards. No improvement at all. I think most of the problem comes from his attitude and weak mentality. He doesn't have confidence in himself when he plays against quality players. He even loses to players like Tursunov and Andreev! (Not that they are bad players but for top 10 player he should have no problem beating them) Also he is too stubborn and is not willing to fix parts of his game like not staying behind the baseline and not hitting moonball fhs. His coach and his parents have coddled him all his life and it's ruining him. He needs tough love.

Getta
04-15-2008, 12:43 AM
I have been thinking about this as well and was about to make the same thread. I'm worried for him. When I first became a fan of Richard, I thought he was so talented and that he had a great future ahead of him. Fast forward three years later and he is moving backwards. No improvement at all. I think most of the problem comes from his attitude and weak mentality. He doesn't have confidence in himself when he plays against quality players. He even loses to players like Tursunov and Andreev! (Not that they are bad players but for top 10 player he should have no problem beating them) Also he is too stubborn and is not willing to fix parts of his game like not staying behind the baseline and not hitting moonball fhs. His coach and his parents have coddled him all his life and it's ruining him. He needs tough love.

Precisely. I got the impression his parents never beat or pummeled him when he was a kid. :o

Allure
04-15-2008, 01:42 AM
Precisely. I got the impression his parents never beat or pummeled him when he was a kid. :o

:lol: I would have given him a good kick in the pants if I were them. I mean man up.

I wonder how many beatings Nadal got in order to shape him up to the player he is today. :unsure:

my0118
04-15-2008, 02:00 AM
That's why the only child is usually a spolit one. :o

Jozie
04-15-2008, 05:41 AM
For him to go to the next level is for him to see an opponent which he doesn’t think he has a chance to win and say “I am going to go out there and just play my game. I am not going to carry a losing mentality.”

Yep, I agree. He seems to have decided he has already lost before he has even stepped on court. :unsure: Huge lack of maturity. Surely one day he has to rise above this.

emilie
04-17-2008, 03:48 PM
I think the reason of all this stuff is that Richard is unhappy in his life. According to his interview he gave to L'equipe, he feels sad that people do not like him.
He can become depressive if this situation continues. Maybe, it would be better for him to stop playing tennis as a professionnal.
You cannot compare him to other players as he was a gifted child. The media know him since he is 9 years old. I have read some books about gifted child and they are very often very fragile and different.
I do not know what is the best for him but i prefer him to stop playing tennis than to continue and suffer all his carrier like this.

Allure
04-17-2008, 04:24 PM
I think the reason of all this stuff is that Richard is unhappy in his life. According to his interview he gave to L'equipe, he feels sad that people do not like him.
He can become depressive if this situation continues. Maybe, it would be better for him to stop playing tennis as a professionnal.
You cannot compare him to other players as he was a gifted child. The media know him since he is 9 years old. I have read some books about gifted child and they are very often very fragile and different.
I do not know what is the best for him but i prefer him to stop playing tennis than to continue and suffer all his carrier like this.

I didn't know he was unhappy with his life. What makes him think people do not like him? (People criticize him including spectators and posters but Nadal and Djokovic gets that too). I think he needs a therapist instead of just quitting tennis.

Vlad1980
04-17-2008, 08:42 PM
I think the reason of all this stuff is that Richard is unhappy in his life. According to his interview he gave to L'equipe, he feels sad that people do not like him.
He can become depressive if this situation continues. Maybe, it would be better for him to stop playing tennis as a professionnal.
You cannot compare him to other players as he was a gifted child. The media know him since he is 9 years old. I have read some books about gifted child and they are very often very fragile and different.
I do not know what is the best for him but i prefer him to stop playing tennis than to continue and suffer all his carrier like this.


I don't think that's the case. Even if he does indeed think that people don't like him, it is up to him to change that. Fans like when their favorite players fight in every match they play. Who didn't like his effort against Roddick last year in Wimbledon? Or how about against Hewitt at 06 US Open? NO one would complain about it.... but people also see how disappointing he was at Roland Garros last year... or how he did not take a court against Young at US Open last year. It is normal that they react negatively to this things, because Richard is top 10 and should pull through these tough moments. At the very least, he should show his heart that he wants to win those matches no matter the surface and his condition.

Allure
04-17-2008, 08:54 PM
I don't think that's the case. Even if he does indeed think that people don't like him, it is up to him to change that. Fans like when their favorite players fight in every match they play. Who didn't like his effort against Roddick last year in Wimbledon? Or how about against Hewitt at 06 US Open? NO one would complain about it.... but people also see how disappointing he was at Roland Garros last year... or how he did not take a court against Young at US Open last year. It is normal that they react negatively to this things, because Richard is top 10 and should pull through these tough moments. At the very least, he should show his heart that he wants to win those matches no matter the surface and his condition.

Agree Vlad. Richard should take those criticisms and improve, showing the haters that they are wrong about him. Not just get mad and complain that people ''hate'' him.

~*BGT*~
04-17-2008, 09:11 PM
The saying is, "Man up!" :rolleyes:

~*BGT*~
04-25-2008, 03:15 PM
I just saw this quote from him. I don't remember it verbatim but he said something like when he is 23 or 24 he expects to hit his peak and then he will win more. That made me go :eek: Is he serious saying that?? He is sorting of giving excuses for himself now saying "the reason I haven't performed well so far in my career is because I haven't hit my peak. Wait a few years and see what I will do."

Now that's not exactly what he said, but that's what he sounds like. I think that's his problem. He isn't trying hard NOW because he thinks he will be good enough in a few years to beat the big players. He's 21!! Roddick won the USO at 21. Chang won the French Open at 17!! It's never too early to play and be your best Richard!! What is he going to say when he's 23 and 24 and still having bad results? Wait until I'm 26 or 27; I'll be REALLY good then. :rolleyes:

Vlad1980
04-25-2008, 03:31 PM
I just saw this quote from him. I don't remember it verbatim but he said something like when he is 23 or 24 he expects to hit his peak and then he will win more. That made me go :eek: Is he serious saying that?? He is sorting of giving excuses for himself now saying "the reason I haven't performed well so far in my career is because I haven't hit my peak. Wait a few years and see what I will do."

Now that's not exactly what he said, but that's what he sounds like. I think that's his problem. He isn't trying hard NOW because he thinks he will be good enough in a few years to beat the big players. He's 21!! Roddick won the USO at 21. Chang won the French Open at 17!! It's never too early to play and be your best Richard!! What is he going to say when he's 23 and 24 and still having bad results? Wait until I'm 26 or 27; I'll be REALLY good then. :rolleyes:


I think he said it during Mumbai tournament last year... he also said something like he will be able to beat Roger Federer in 2 years :rolleyes:

It is all about desire and belief with Richard... some people say about bad forehand and serve, but the truth is when he is playing well he is placing his serves on a dime and players can't even get to his forehand to attack it, because Richard does not allow them.

my0118
04-25-2008, 03:43 PM
He's so up and down in one match too..

*julie*
04-25-2008, 04:27 PM
I just saw this quote from him. I don't remember it verbatim but he said something like when he is 23 or 24 he expects to hit his peak and then he will win more. That made me go :eek: Is he serious saying that?? He is sorting of giving excuses for himself now saying "the reason I haven't performed well so far in my career is because I haven't hit my peak. Wait a few years and see what I will do."

Now that's not exactly what he said, but that's what he sounds like. I think that's his problem. He isn't trying hard NOW because he thinks he will be good enough in a few years to beat the big players. He's 21!! Roddick won the USO at 21. Chang won the French Open at 17!! It's never too early to play and be your best Richard!! What is he going to say when he's 23 and 24 and still having bad results? Wait until I'm 26 or 27; I'll be REALLY good then. :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: How do you know he is not trying hard? This kind of comments are nonsense. Richard works hard. (read Santoro's comments if you doubt it)

As for reaching his peak at 23-24.. he is a pro player.. he works with professionals too.. and they know quite well the weaknesses in Richard's game. And they have objectives, schedules and methods. They know more than you what it will take for Richard to reach his peak.

I am happy he is not Roddick nor Chang btw.



It is all about desire and belief with Richard... some people say about bad forehand and serve, but the truth is when he is playing well he is placing his serves on a dime and players can't even get to his forehand to attack it, because Richard does not allow them.
I am convinced Richard doesn't lack desire. Of course he is not a Djokovic or Monfils who are not afraid to say "I want to be the world #1". It's his nature. What he lacks at the moment is not only confidence on the court but also to feel good in his head on and off the court. He is fragile mentally and his start of the season has been really poor but he is positive in interviews and knows that he can bounce back. The only thing he needs now is some rest and to find some serenity.

Schu
04-25-2008, 05:04 PM
How many times do you see really talented people not live up to their potential and media hype?

Tremendous talent can often be a curse and I think Richard is a prime example of that. Things were relatively easy for him through his junior years and he never learned how to REALLY fight - didn't have to, won anyway. Couple that with a laid back, mellow personality and you have RIchard, an extremely talented player who has to learn how to tough it out in the brutal world that is professional tennis.

Then dump on the media hype that has been telling him and the world he is the greatest since he was 9 and it's no wonder he doesn't feel confident when losses pile up and he doesn't live up to what he "should" be.

Everyone talks of how weak he is but to go through all the pressures he has continually faced with his shy, mellow nature, I think he is actually quite tough in one sense. He will never be a Nadal or Djoke (good thing) but I'm sure he wants to win and works as hard as they do, he just has a much more serene nature. Richie just has to learn what it means to REALLY compete every minute he is on the court and believe that if he tries his hardest EVERY minute, he IS a winner no matter what the score is and no matter what anyone else says.

Those around him I think sheltered him through the tough teen years and that was probably wise but perhaps they did TOO good of a job. He is now almost 22 and time to deal with all the ugly realities of life on the tour (and in the world).

GOOD LUCK RICHIE. Get rest, clear your head and come out firing ....I await many more amazing matches from you - I know they are coming.

Vlad1980
04-25-2008, 05:26 PM
:rolleyes: How do you know he is not trying hard? This kind of comments are nonsense. Richard works hard. (read Santoro's comments if you doubt it)

As for reaching his peak at 23-24.. he is a pro player.. he works with professionals too.. and they know quite well the weaknesses in Richard's game. And they have objectives, schedules and methods. They know more than you what it will take for Richard to reach his peak.

I am happy he is not Roddick nor Chang btw.


I am convinced Richard doesn't lack desire. Of course he is not a Djokovic or Monfils who are not afraid to say "I want to be the world #1". It's his nature. What he lacks at the moment is not only confidence on the court but also to feel good in his head on and off the court. He is fragile mentally and his start of the season has been really poor but he is positive in interviews and knows that he can bounce back. The only thing he needs now is some rest and to find some serenity.


Novak says it and he delivers and that's what matters. Monfils can say whatever he wants, but he plays like he has NO desire as well... he is staying 15 feet behind the baseline rolling balls back and that's all.

Here is the difference between Richard and Novak:

both blew 6-7 breakpoints in their matches against Sammy (Richard in second set, Novak in first).... one fell apart after that, the other has risen to the occasion and did not lose a GAME after that. That is the difference in the desire and belief as I see it.

Schu
04-25-2008, 05:39 PM
Here is the difference between Richard and Novak:

both blew 6-7 breakpoints in their matches against Sammy (Richard in second set, Novak in first).... one fell apart after that, the other has risen to the occasion and did not lose a GAME after that. That is the difference in the desire and belief as I see it.

I saw part of that too, quite a contrast. But I don't think it is a lack of desire - Richard wants to win as much as anyone out there or why in the world would he keep submitting himself to some of this torture! He just doesn't quite know how to kick it up. ANd we all know Novak has enough belief in himself for about 2 or 3 Richies. IF Novak could just give 10% of his confidence to Richard...

richie21
04-25-2008, 05:55 PM
I think he said it during Mumbai tournament last year... he also said something like he will be able to beat Roger Federer in 2 years :rolleyes:

It is all about desire and belief with Richard... some people say about bad forehand and serve, but the truth is when he is playing well he is placing his serves on a dime and players can't even get to his forehand to attack it, because Richard does not allow them.

Yeah he said that........two years ago just after his final at MS of Toronto! :tape::tape:

*julie*
04-25-2008, 05:57 PM
I saw part of that too, quite a contrast. But I don't think it is a lack of desire - Richard wants to win as much as anyone out there or why in the world would he keep submitting himself to some of this torture! He just doesn't quite know how to kick it up. ANd we all know Novak has enough belief in himself for about 2 or 3 Richies. IF Novak could just give 10% of his confidence to Richard...

I agree totally. ;)

Vlad1980
04-25-2008, 05:59 PM
I saw part of that too, quite a contrast. But I don't think it is a lack of desire - Richard wants to win as much as anyone out there or why in the world would he keep submitting himself to some of this torture! He just doesn't quite know how to kick it up. ANd we all know Novak has enough belief in himself for about 2 or 3 Richies. IF Novak could just give 10% of his confidence to Richard...

Fact is Richard waits for his opponents mistakes instead of going for it and taking it. I am not talking about breakpoints in second set, I also talk about all those 15-30 on Sam serve points in third set when Richard has done NOTHING on them. When your opponent does not miss, then he should realize that the only way to win is to take initiative in his own hands. It takes courage and desire. Right now, he has neither.

Richard is top 10 now and he is satisfied with his rankings (He said it many times that he is top 10 and it is good and he wants to stay there and make Masters Cup again). The second he will drop out of top 10 (and he will because he is playing like top 50 now), only then he will start playing better.

Allure
04-25-2008, 06:54 PM
Fact is Richard waits for his opponents mistakes instead of going for it and taking it. I am not talking about breakpoints in second set, I also talk about all those 15-30 on Sam serve points in third set when Richard has done NOTHING on them. When your opponent does not miss, then he should realize that the only way to win is to take initiative in his own hands. It takes courage and desire. Right now, he has neither.

Richard is top 10 now and he is satisfied with his rankings (He said it many times that he is top 10 and it is good and he wants to stay there and make Masters Cup again). The second he will drop out of top 10 (and he will because he is playing like top 50 now), only then he will start playing better.

ITA. Richard waits for his opponents to make mistakes instead of being the aggressor. He doesn't have belief in himself and it doesn't help that those around him coddle him and let him go at his own pace (which is SLOW). If only his parents had pushed him more...

Jozie
04-25-2008, 07:03 PM
I really think Richie doesn't give much thought or time even between points. He just rushes the through the games, and when he isn't playing well, he absolutely can't wait to just get off the court. It's like it is quite painful for him.

Just watching Fed, Djoko, Nadal and Davydenko today. They all just take that little extra time to contemplate what they are doing before each and every point.

I always feel exhausted watching Richie. Its like he just wants to get the business over and done with. Whether he's winning or losing. He just really does not look comfortable out there.

Am I right or wrong? It is just something I picked up this afternoon. Maybe just grasping for straws.

~*BGT*~
04-26-2008, 12:22 AM
:rolleyes: How do you know he is not trying hard? This kind of comments are nonsense. Richard works hard. (read Santoro's comments if you doubt it)

As for reaching his peak at 23-24.. he is a pro player.. he works with professionals too.. and they know quite well the weaknesses in Richard's game. And they have objectives, schedules and methods. They know more than you what it will take for Richard to reach his peak.

That's not my opinion. That's the insinuation I got from reading the quote. ;) Maybe I'm reading too much into it but when he said that, one of the first things I thought was "Maybe he thinks he doesn't have to give his all NOW because he knows he will do better in the FUTURE."

Schu
04-26-2008, 12:41 AM
ITA. Richard waits for his opponents to make mistakes instead of being the aggressor. He doesn't have belief in himself and it doesn't help that those around him coddle him and let him go at his own pace (which is SLOW). If only his parents had pushed him more...

I agree that his pace is SLOW but pushing someone before they are ready is a sure prescription for disaster in the long run; its a fine line between encouragement and pushing. But it is now time he was ready to be pushed.

Allure
04-26-2008, 12:52 AM
I agree that his pace is SLOW but pushing someone before they are ready is a sure prescription for disaster in the long run; its a fine line between encouragement and pushing. But it is now time he was ready to be pushed.

I'm not saying that Francis should be a Yuri or Richard (Williams) but Gasquet said that his dad never pushed him and he only care about looking good on court. That's the problem IMO. His whole life, Richie's dad never said ''Win, win, win.'' It's always ''If you lose it's okay. Next time.''

EternalxJourney
04-26-2008, 03:43 AM
Wow so much has happened since the last time I checked in here. It's really depressing to see the results recently and the hoopla surrounding DC but I know Richard will bounce back. He is capable of much more and I really believe he'll come back stronger...or at least with more confidence. Much love to my fellow Gasquetaires :hug: He'll be BACK...never in doubt. :p

Puschkin
04-29-2008, 01:49 PM
I'm not saying that Francis should be a Yuri or Richard (Williams) but Gasquet said that his dad never pushed him and he only care about looking good on court. That's the problem IMO. His whole life, Richie's dad never said ''Win, win, win.'' It's always ''If you lose it's okay. Next time.''

watch this video posted by lilibel: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=43105&page=105

In the background you can hear the father shouting: "move in" (avance), "harder" (plus fort) to the nine year old. He also says he never pushes him for results (only for physical build-up and concentration - a nine year old :rolleyes:) but can one really believe it? I don't anymore. In the beginning, I also fell into the trap and trusted his words, I am not doing this anymore. The shadow of Francis Gasquet is looming heavily over Richard. He is supposed to achieve all the father could not, due to circumstances of life and lacking talent and money.

Allure
04-29-2008, 04:26 PM
watch this video posted by lilibel: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=43105&page=105

In the background you can hear the father shouting: "move in" (avance), "harder" (plus fort) to the nine year old. He also says he never pushes him for results (only for physical build-up and concentration - a nine year old :rolleyes:) but can one really believe it? I don't anymore. In the beginning, I also fell into the trap and trusted his words, I am not doing this anymore. The shadow of Francis Gasquet is looming heavily over Richard. He is supposed to achieve all the father could not, due to circumstances of life and lacking talent and money.

So you're saying that Richard's dad did push him? Hmm...if so, I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing. Unless he is over tne top and overzealous like Yuri. :o

Schu
04-29-2008, 07:12 PM
Parents and coaching - always a delicate balance and results vary depending on the personalitites. But in general it doesn't work in the long run and as Puschkin said, all too often it is a parent trying to live out their own unrealized dream through their child.

We have NO idea about Francis and Richard but from the comments I've read from Papa Gasquet, it seemed that he had a pretty healthly perspective on his son's tennis (until he opened his mouth about the Davis Cup situation).

I've seen A LOT of junior tennis player development and it is always interesting to see what works for different children but one thing is for sure, only a certain type of personality can tolerate being really pushed as opposed to being ENCOURAGED and even fewer can tolerate being pushed by a parent. The only pushing that seems to be effective on everyone is being pushed to give your best effort (100%)everytime you walk on the court and results will come, especially if you are as talented as Richard, and if results don't come, you are still a winner if you gave it your all.

Did I read somewhere that his parents sold their home and club to move to Paris when he was 15 or 16? If so that was a pretty clear signal.

But enough psych... whatever it is/was, the future awaits and it can still be an amazing time for Richard. I hope he goes for it and I'll be cheering when he does.

richie21
05-03-2008, 11:14 PM
I agree that his pace is SLOW but pushing someone before they are ready is a sure prescription for disaster in the long run; its a fine line between encouragement and pushing. But it is now time he was ready to be pushed.

Has there been any pace at all??
I mean,do you frankly think he has improved his game since 2006,even a little bit?

lisaplenske
05-04-2008, 03:51 PM
the problem with him is his lack of confidence,I think he must do a 360° virage and hire a new coach,with another way to work if compared to debliker. He needs a real change,a "refreshing" change.Someeone with great and strong personality to make him realize how good he can be if he trust on himself and go fighting like a warrior at every match he play,against a player like nadal or lower ranked like querrey.
I think he really need a REAL CHANGE, to live a new experience and become another player.

did he say that he would work with kuerten coach,the one who made him win 3 roland garros?would be handsome if he can be the player of such an experienced man.I think debliker was the "good man" for him at a time he needed someone different than his dad. But now he needs to get through another step.He has waited too much.
well like some said here,it all depends on richard willness,do he want to be just a good player not doing big things or perhaps occasionally, or he has this determination to try something different and take some initiatives.

Yes like some say;time to "man up" and know what he really want.TIME TO ACT.

~*BGT*~
05-06-2008, 01:57 AM
We've all been doing a bit of speculating about Richard's form, fitness, passion, and dedication over the past month. But it's gotten us (and him!) nowhere. And these quotes prove he has no answers either. :sad:

"After losing the first set, I lost all my confidence," Gasquet said. "I played my worst match of the year."

I'm either way high or way low, and now I'm very low," Gasquet said, adding that he is not enjoying the sport right now.

"It's really difficult on the court. I need to win some matches and have fun."

"I knew he was capable, just today anyone could have beaten me," Gasquet said.


Reading them made me wonder: is Richie depressed? I don't mean the casual depressed but I mean, is he clinically depressed? Can he be diagnosed with depression? I have struggled with moderate to severe depression for about 8 months and it's very serious. At my lowest, it was hard to even get out of bed and function. So I can understand how difficult it would be to try your best on the tennis court if you are feeling that bed.

Depression is hard for people to understand because it's not a physical disease like mono. It's mental, and it's very common for people to say, "Just get over it." But that doesn't help because that's insinuating that you have control over these feelings and you are forcing yourself to feel bad. :shrug: Trust me, NO ONE wants to be depressed. It's a horrible feeling waking up with no passion and no desires and not wanting to do anything.

I don't want to diagnose Richard, but I'm going with my own personal experiences. He sounds depressed. Like me, he needs a break. I took about a 2 month break from school and work, saw a therapist, and began a medication regiment, and I'm doing great!! :D

Now, I'm not saying this is what Richard needs exactly because depression is different for everyone, but I definitely think he needs a break from tennis and from the stress. He is not a defending anything at the FO. He should skip it. He is defedning so many points at Wimbledon and he needs to be fresh mentally for that. :wavey:

That's my opinion. :angel:

*esther*
05-06-2008, 03:10 AM
Was speechless. Was sad to read his interview transcript. Was depressed.:crying2::crying2::crying2:

Come back Richie :help:

Allure
05-06-2008, 03:54 AM
I hope this slump will pass. :sad:

lisaplenske
05-18-2008, 06:55 PM
he decided to act!thank god!:)

his new coach will be guillaume peyre,the one who was coaching bagdathis when he reached the AO finale in 2006.

Apparently he is really different from debliker(younger too)
hopefully he will help richard and make him recover his confidence and boost it even more.

Allure
05-18-2008, 07:23 PM
he decided to act!thank god!:)

his new coach will be guillaume peyre,the one who was coaching bagdathis when he reached the AO finale in 2006.

Apparently he is really different from debliker(younger too)
hopefully he will help richard and make him recover his confidence and boost it even more.

That's great news. :D

cesca
06-15-2008, 05:57 PM
As a newbie, I would just like to say that this was SUCH an interesting thread. I had been following that Richie was going through a bad patch but your comments were practically all thought-provoking and a lot were poignant. :worship: A few also nearly made my cry (which is impressive because I rarely do) and suddenly realised the pressure that our darling boy (or man) is constantly under.

I don't know if any of you follow snooker but I can see a similarity to Ronnie O'Sullivan. He is considered to be the naturally most-gifted player of all time but he to has struggled with expectation and commitment and therefore despite some great results, many believe him to be an underachiever. He also has talked about disliking the game at times and wanting to give it up and the quotes by Richie seemed quite similar- especially with BGT's remarks about depression as RO'S is a sufferer of clinical depression.

A bit of a late-comer post, for which I apologise.