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QF: Lleyton Hewitt vs Roger Federer

Auscon
06-28-2004, 05:31 PM
02 Champ vs 03 Champ
Former world number 1 vs current world number 1


Heres hoping this will be a great match!

jcman
06-28-2004, 05:34 PM
hewitt!!!!!
i hope he can win
coz i cant stand VJ anymore
he praises fed for every pt he win, he thinks he 's the tennis god, he's the greatest of all time and evey shot he hits is just unbelievable..
i cant stand him anymore and this makes me begin to hate fed

Seraphim
06-28-2004, 05:37 PM
god speed to the fiesty aussie and the serene pony-tailed one.

Auscon
06-28-2004, 06:33 PM
That last set of Hewitt vs Moya was pretty awesome....brilliant winners vs unforced errors ratio

Hopefully he'll be able to keep that up for the next match

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-28-2004, 06:35 PM
Cheers!


Heres hoping this will be a great match!

Alisa
06-28-2004, 07:11 PM
yea! hope hewitt would win!!!)) good luck to ya lleyton!! though rogi of course is brilliant playa as well! guess it would be a splendid match)

Satanic Pasteur
06-28-2004, 07:41 PM
Go Roger! Avenge four lefties.

Hagar
06-28-2004, 08:13 PM
The winner of this match will win the whole thing.

Gonzalo81
06-28-2004, 08:23 PM
Agreed.....;)

Fumus
06-28-2004, 09:15 PM
...Well before we start to declare the trophy holder, alot can change in a week but, right now Hewitt is playing the best tennis that he can and so is Roger this could be more interesting than the final no matter who wins...

undomiele
06-28-2004, 09:18 PM
Wow. Im impressed with how well Hewitt has been playing. Good luck to him! May the best player win. Im sure it'll be a thriller!! :drool:

LCeh
06-28-2004, 09:23 PM
It will probably be a great match. Hewitt is playing extremely well, and I think maybe the only guy that can stop him is Roger, and vice versa. They seem to be playing pretty much to their best while others aren't exactly playing that well.

Just hope it doesn't rain on Wednesday... :rolleyes:

Fumus
06-28-2004, 09:39 PM
LCeh, nothing can rain on Roger's parade it seems, except well, rain of course...lol

Port_Power
06-28-2004, 10:41 PM
COME ON LLEYTON!!!!!! I wish lleyton can win it, although roger will prolly roll. Maybe roger will have a bad day

jtipson
06-28-2004, 10:44 PM
Just hope it doesn't rain on Wednesday... :rolleyes:

I expect it will rain, that's the forecast. But this quarter-final is likely to be the first course (the main dish for a British audience is Ancic-Henman), so the match is more likely to get completed.

LCeh
06-28-2004, 10:51 PM
I expect it will rain, that's the forecast. But this quarter-final is likely to be the first course (the main dish for a British audience is Ancic-Henman), so the match is more likely to get completed.

In that sense I am glad it's the side-dish :p

CarnivalCarnage
06-28-2004, 11:18 PM
Well ... I don't think Lleyton has no chance, but you do have to favour Roger. Roger's won the last two ... if he wins again, the rivalry has officially swung the other way. But this is a good surface for Lleyton, I think he believes in himself again, and we'll just have to see. At the very least he should take a set, no?

akin
06-28-2004, 11:26 PM
Federer run is soon coming to an end...Lleyton will win and Roger will face defeat :yeah:

Port_Power
06-28-2004, 11:27 PM
I hope so, but i doubt it.. seriously, roger is basically hitting winners at will. I really doubt if fed express will stop. But lleyton has done it in the past, and i hope he will do it again.

Deboogle!.
06-28-2004, 11:35 PM
I expect it will rain, that's the forecast.

Yea.... not looking good
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/local/UKXX0085?from=search_city
:eek:

But compare that to the BBC forecast LOL
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=3564

then here's the Wimby site forecast

Wednesday 12 / 19 Sunny intervals
Thursday 12 / 16 Sunny intervals
Thursday 12 / 19 Sunny (Day)
Saturday 12 / 19 Sunny intervals


Why can't they agree? :lol:

naiwen
06-29-2004, 01:13 AM
I just can't wait to see the showdown.
:wavey:

rue
06-29-2004, 02:01 AM
Roger is looking real good, so is Hewitt but I think that Roger will win it. He has been real good so far and he is a far better player. So the fedexpress will move on and to the finals from the way I see things.

Fedex
06-29-2004, 02:17 AM
Hewitt has no Chance :haha: :haha: :lol:, at anyone that thinks Rogi will lose to Lleyton. Another one - sided affair coming up soon :D :banana: :woohoo:

conans _uncle_ted
06-29-2004, 02:46 AM
Conans Uncle Ted feels Lleyton will have to be at his very very best and Roger will have to drop a level slightly but a Hewitt win is possible.

CarnivalCarnage
06-29-2004, 02:49 AM
Hewitt has no Chance :haha: :haha: :lol:, at anyone that thinks Rogi will lose to Lleyton. Another one - sided affair coming up soon :D :banana: :woohoo:

Cocky. Unwise to dismiss somebody whom your player is 4-8 against, but ok.

Lisbeth
06-29-2004, 02:52 AM
I think that Roger is the favourite in ANY match he plays, including this one ... but on the other hand I don't exactly think he'll be thrilled at drawing an in-form Hewitt in the 1/4s. Hewitt has as good a chance to beat him as anyone and even when you're not dealing with a former champion in the same event, there's no such thing as "no chance" past the quarter finals.

I do know that I am looking forward to this match. I just hope it's on early so it's still a civilised hour here!

Billabong
06-29-2004, 02:55 AM
I hope it will be a great match, it certainly has the potential to be a classic:D! Both players will need to be at their best:D!

Fedex
06-29-2004, 02:55 AM
Um, He's 4-7 against Hewitt and hasnt lost to him this year, and its been 9 monthes since he beat Federer, so I would choose youre words a little more wisely before you speak :o :fiery:

J. Corwin
06-29-2004, 03:31 AM
Hopefully Lleyton will give Roger a nice well fought match. Maybe even beat him too. ;)

Fedex
06-29-2004, 03:37 AM
But, Jackson, dont you want a Federer-Roddick final?? :confused:
I'm confident about this match. Andy beat Hewitt easily, and Federer has more weapons than Andy. The one thing I AM worried about, is that the old Federer will show up and choke. That DC match will always linger in my mind when these two play. :o I will never forget it. :mad:

tennisguru
06-29-2004, 03:46 AM
No matters who wins, match is going to be just too good and probably winner is going to take the trophy too.

Fedex
06-29-2004, 03:49 AM
I actually doubt that. If Hewitt does the unthinkable and Federer chokes, I think Roddick or Henman will take him out in the final. Roddick killed him at Queens, so, and Henman nearly beat him at an exhibition (had like 3 match points).

tennisguru
06-29-2004, 04:02 AM
You are right Fedex, If Federer wins he is going to take the trophy and if unthinkable happens, its going to be Roddick. But I dont think Henman (if Tim beats Andy)can beat Hewitt, Hewitt holds so good record against Tim and his game is well suited for the serve volleyers.
But Federer express is going to run through every one.

CarnivalCarnage
06-29-2004, 04:04 AM
Um, He's 4-7 against Hewitt and hasnt lost to him this year, and its been 9 monthes since he beat Federer, so I would choose youre words a little more wisely before you speak :o :fiery:

ITF scores it 8-4, asshole. Yes, they count Hopman Cup, but that's still an official h2h.

And it's "months". I'd spell your words a little more wisely if I were you.

CarnivalCarnage
06-29-2004, 04:05 AM
No matters who wins, match is going to be just too good and probably winner is going to take the trophy too.

I don't think you can say that. Roddick and Henman can both throw a wrench into the machinery.

Fedex
06-29-2004, 04:22 AM
Hopman cup dosnt count in my views, ok CarnivalPOSCarnage!! :fiery: :mad: Its not an official tournement on tour. Thats like counting exhibition matches, its worthless. So the head 2 head STANDS AT 7-4 to Hewitt.

CarnivalCarnage
06-29-2004, 04:24 AM
Hopman cup dosnt count in my views, ok CarnivalPOSCarnage!! :fiery: :mad: Its not an official tournement on tour. Thats like counting exhibition matches, its worthless. So the head 2 head STANDS AT 7-4 to Hewitt.

I wouldn't count it either. BUT THE ITF DOES. Therefore, it's an official head to head. That cannot be argued.

undomiele
06-29-2004, 04:26 AM
Please don't forget Grosjean. He's number 10 in the world and deserves SOME credit for being in the quarters sheesh! :rolleyes: He's doing pretty well!

Fedex
06-29-2004, 04:28 AM
Well, i only go by what the ATP says, and it say 7-4, so i am saying 7-4. I am sure that before the match starts, they'll talk about the Head 2 Head, put a graphic saying 7-4 to Hewitt, and then go on about how great Federer is, and is going to roll through in straights. Besides the fact that Federer has beaten Hewitt rather easily the last two times, makes me have firm belief, that it'll be the same here.

LCeh
06-29-2004, 04:29 AM
He really is. I saw Grosjean today and his play impresses me. He has an agressive slice, and great groundstrokes. Somehow the way he plays on grass reminds me of Roger. Should be a great semi-final coming up if Grosjean gets there too.

Fedex
06-29-2004, 04:29 AM
Yes, i did forget. If Hewitt gets by Federer (not happening), then Grosjean is going to beat up on Hewitt in the semis.

Fedex
06-29-2004, 04:32 AM
I love watching Grosjean play on grass. He does sort of remind me of Roger, only Roger usually does more Serve-Volleying than Seb. I love his forehand. Its a great shot. I hope we see a Federer-Grosjean semi.

CarnivalCarnage
06-29-2004, 04:34 AM
Well, i only go by what the ATP says, and it say 7-4, so i am saying 7-4. I am sure that before the match starts, they'll talk about the Head 2 Head, put a graphic saying 7-4 to Hewitt, and then go on about how great Federer is, and is going to roll through in straights. Besides the fact that Federer has beaten Hewitt rather easily the last two times, makes me have firm belief, that it'll be the same here.

Maybe it will. But that's beside the point.

The ITF counts Hopman. Regrettable. But they do. Doesn't the ATP count retarded events? The exhibition before the French, perhaps? The old Grand Slam Cup? No?

And I do think it's a tossup. I have found in the past that the h2h's tend to come from the ITF site. The oft-repeated Hingis-Davenport h2h has always included their Hopman Cup match, on air and off.

Auscon
06-29-2004, 04:37 AM
Hopman cup dosnt count in my views, ok CarnivalPOSCarnage!! :fiery: :mad: Its not an official tournement on tour. Thats like counting exhibition matches, its worthless. So the head 2 head STANDS AT 7-4 to Hewitt.

The Hopman Cup bloody well counts for me :) Nobody plays to lose, exhibition match or not

Oh, and with a 7-0 record against Henman, I seriously doubt Henman could stop Hewitt if they met....especially with the form Lleytons in

Fedex
06-29-2004, 04:41 AM
I dont care. Federer has beaten Hewitt twice now, and very easily. This is a not the same Federer that lost to him the previous 7 times. I expect a 3 set win for Rogi, possibly pushed in 1 set, but winning the other 2 easily.

Auscon
06-29-2004, 04:41 AM
Hopefully the fact that Federer managed to win a set to love in each of their last 2 matches wont phase Lleyton....

CarnivalCarnage
06-29-2004, 04:45 AM
I dont care. Federer has beaten Hewitt twice now, and very easily. This is a not the same Federer that lost to him the previous 7 times. I expect a 3 set win for Rogi, possibly pushed in 1 set, but winning the other 2 easily.

Backing down eh....

Jazzy
06-29-2004, 04:49 AM
i agree with Fedex! - a three setter!

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-29-2004, 04:52 AM
Wow, Lleyton has incredible winning records against "everybody and their mom"

WyveN
06-29-2004, 04:57 AM
Hewitt will certainly need the first set to have a decent chance hence a good start. Moya tried to play a Federer style game in the last 2 sets today, hitting slices, running around backhands and really going for the forehand but apart from the forehand he looked very clumsy out there compared to Roger.

Dirk
06-29-2004, 05:00 AM
Rogi won't be doing so much running around out there. Also Rogi can return very very well. I think Rogi will win but if he is iffy then Hewitt has a shot. Moya had his chances but Hewitt won the big points.

Fedex
06-29-2004, 05:18 AM
I think Roger will need to mix in more Serve and Volleying in his next match against Hewitt. He rarely did it today, even though his Serve % was 75%. Not overuse it though, because Hewitt is great at passes and lobs, but to keep Hewitt off balance. In his match at the Aussie Open, he would use his backhand slice, to force Hewitt to hit up, which then he would be able to usually rip a forehand winner off the next shot. I hope he slices the backhand plenty against Hewitt to set up his forehand. All in all, if Federer serves as well as he has( 71% avg. serve % for whole tournement), and while aces dont show it(29), he'll be fine.

akin
06-29-2004, 05:33 AM
I am not sure why but I sense that Rogi will not have a good day against Lleyton. Not much tennis analysis here...which is always useless at such level. The one who has a better day will win but I feel Rogi will choke. Final Australia v England :yeah:

jtipson
06-29-2004, 10:05 AM
I wouldn't count it either. BUT THE ITF DOES. Therefore, it's an official head to head. That cannot be argued.

The ATP doesn't count it though. So it depends which you prefer.

Lynne
06-29-2004, 10:15 AM
It's gonna be a nice match.... Federer is sweeping aside anything that's standing in his way and Hewitt is playing great!! :)

little duck
06-29-2004, 11:56 AM
I would realy like this to be a thrilling match, but I think Hewitt has almost no chance. It will be Federer in three sets, because Hewitt can't play against Fderer any more. He already made all his wins against him.

CmonAussie
06-29-2004, 12:03 PM
I would realy like this to be a thrilling match, but I think Hewitt has almost no chance. It will be Federer in three sets, because Hewitt can't play against Fderer any more. He already made all his wins against him.
:rolleyes:
Overly simplified analysis & just plain wrong :eek: !
* Apart from Federer's easy victory over Hewitt in Hamburg-TMS on Clay non of Roger's 4-victories have been easy! And even with a 2-set lead & break in the 3rd, while Federer was basking in high of Wimbledon victory & Hewitt at his lowest confidence, the gutsy Rocky Llegs still found a way to win :worship: :worship: !

Federer is the favourite against everyone at the moment BUT Hewitt is one of the few guys capable of beating him in such a big match :angel: :p !

Lalitha
06-29-2004, 12:18 PM
Federer - Hewitt QF's and Federer - Henman Finals.

I think we will play these matches a few hundred times in our minds before it actually happens once. I wonder how difficult it will be for the players not to think about the match before it happens.

MagoRG
06-29-2004, 06:22 PM
I really want Hewitt to win. And I think he has a pretty good chance. The fact that Roger has NOT been challenged (no TOP 50) yet could actually help him.
I know Iīm pushing it but I would love a "Davis Cup revival" whit Federer almost winning....

Go Lleyton!!!

Alisa
06-29-2004, 06:40 PM
i think the result of this match will depend on the things like who is less tired, who is more lucky etc. because they are both good players. and in the second half of the draw i wouldn't even think of the other player than roddick. so the final is gonna be roddick vs federer/hewitt.

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rue
06-29-2004, 07:54 PM
Federer - Hewitt QF's and Federer - Henman Finals.


I definitely agree with that one. Hewitt will have to play out of his skin to beat Roger if Roger continues to play the way he has been. But Fedexpress will move on to the finals.

Sarah
06-29-2004, 08:00 PM
Well, i only go by what the ATP says, and it say 7-4, so i am saying 7-4. I am sure that before the match starts, they'll talk about the Head 2 Head, put a graphic saying 7-4 to Hewitt, and then go on about how great Federer is, and is going to roll through in straights. Besides the fact that Federer has beaten Hewitt rather easily the last two times, makes me have firm belief, that it'll be the same here.
I don't think it really matters what the ATP says in their statistics, they played that match, Hewitt won, so why wouldn't it count? You're not gonna play a match and then say, oh, it's only for the Hopman Cup, if I lose it, it doesn't count anyway in the stats! If you play a match, you want to win it!
but for tomorrows match? I have no idea, I hope Lleyton though I like Roger too...

Ginger
06-29-2004, 08:10 PM
I am not sure why but I sense that Rogi will not have a good day against Lleyton. Not much tennis analysis here...which is always useless at such level. The one who has a better day will win but I feel Rogi will choke. Final Australia v England :yeah:
I have the same feeling... Hewitt will win it in 3 sets... Roger's game will gracefully fall into pieces... S&V won't work, serve will be slightly off, too much pressure on Federer right now... and we will finally see the effects of having been working without a coach for too long time....and a lot of racket throwing! Anyway, it will give Federer more time to enjoy the jetset life... :devil:

MissPovaFan
06-29-2004, 08:36 PM
hmmm nah I cant see Hewitt winning against Federer although I would like to see a Hewitt win :) Federer in 4 sets is my prediction.

tangerine_dream
06-29-2004, 09:56 PM
The best I can hope for is a good match; a 4 or 5-setter would be great. But I think Roger's gonna roll over Lleyton in straight sets.

WyveN
06-30-2004, 12:57 AM
I have the same feeling... Hewitt will win it in 3 sets... Roger's game will gracefully fall into pieces... S&V won't work, serve will be slightly off, too much pressure on Federer right now... and we will finally see the effects of having been working without a coach for too long time....and a lot of racket throwing! Anyway, it will give Federer more time to enjoy the jetset life... :devil:

I do wonder if certain posters here even know who Hewitt/Federer are

naiwen
06-30-2004, 01:18 AM
Don't look at statistics. It doesn't make sense. Federer has changed a lot since 2003 Wimbledon and Masters Cup Houston. Hewitt also changed something (including Darren) during these two years.

Can anyone tell me why Hewitt lost to Roddick at Queens? Just because of Andy's serves?

CarnivalCarnage
06-30-2004, 01:19 AM
The ATP doesn't count it though. So it depends which you prefer.

Did you read the post? I said the ITF counts it, that makes it an official head to head. What the fuck does it matter what the ATP does in relation to that post?

Fedex
06-30-2004, 03:15 AM
I do wonder if certain posters here even know who Hewitt/Federer are
:haha: :haha: :haha: So, true WyveN.!! I doubt Federer will lose more than 15 games, much less lose in straight sets :)

tennisguru
06-30-2004, 04:13 AM
Just remember the last match between Hewitt and Federer, where Hewitt seems to be on roll before that foot fault happened in the second set, then Federer showed some best tennis. I think only chance for Hewitt in this match is just hold his own serve, try to push Roger to the tiebreaks and just hope for the best. If Hewitt can take first Federer might make few errors under pressure. But after all these if and buts I think its going to be Roger in three sets.

WyveN
06-30-2004, 04:23 AM
Just remember the last match between Hewitt and Federer, where Hewitt seems to be on roll before that foot fault happened in the second set, then Federer showed some best tennis.

Last time they played Federer won 6-0 6-4. I think Hewitt would have a much better chance at the US Open but I really can't see him beating Roger on grass.

vene
06-30-2004, 05:16 AM
I think Rogi will bagel him in at least 1 set

J. Corwin
06-30-2004, 05:26 AM
But, Jackson, dont you want a Federer-Roddick final?? :confused:
I'm confident about this match. Andy beat Hewitt easily, and Federer has more weapons than Andy. The one thing I AM worried about, is that the old Federer will show up and choke. That DC match will always linger in my mind when these two play. :o I will never forget it. :mad:

I'd love a Fed/Rod final. But I like Hewitt better than Fed, and if Hewitt wins, I won't complain. :)

Lisbeth
06-30-2004, 05:34 AM
I just hope both guys bring their best game because, at its best, this can be a really interesting match up. And I hope Ancic and Henman play a really, really fast match so I can stay awake for this one ;)

Good luck to Hewitt, but if Federer wins then I hope he wins the whole thing :)

YoursTruly
06-30-2004, 05:35 AM
LET'S GO ROGER!!! Time to quiet down those "c'mons" :lol:

Chloe le Bopper
06-30-2004, 05:44 AM
I do wonder if certain posters here even know who Hewitt/Federer are
:yeah:

LCeh
06-30-2004, 05:45 AM
Just realized a couple of crazy stats: Roger has won 88 consecutive service games at Wimbledon and 35 straight sets on grass.. I hope Roger continues this insane stats. :yeah:

RoddickBabe10
06-30-2004, 05:51 AM
I think Hewitt has a shot on beating Fed and he was really confident when he said that he thinks he could beat Fed and he knows it will be a tough match. I do think that Lleyton has a chance on Fed though you know he's been playing really well and is confident. I'm not a very big fan of Fed but he plays awesome tennis and I love how graceful he is on the court but let's not forget every player has a weakness though and if Hewitt tries real hard to find Fed's "weakness" then yay! Go Lleyton!

I'd love a Mayer-Roddick Final though... LOL anything can happen... LOL

J. Corwin
06-30-2004, 06:06 AM
So you like Mayer? lol

RoddickBabe10
06-30-2004, 06:11 AM
Oh no... i just think it will be an easy match for Andy to win lol I really want him to win Wimbly sooo badly lol and I like Hewitt so if it's a Hewitt-Roddick match I would go nuts lol

RoddickBabe10
06-30-2004, 06:12 AM
Oh no... i just think it will be an easy match for Andy to win lol I really want him to win Wimbly sooo badly lol and I like Hewitt so if it's a Hewitt-Roddick final match I would go nuts lol

Fedex
06-30-2004, 06:22 AM
What makes me even more confident that Roger's gonna sweep lleyton off the court is. Potato is know for his passion, his heart and willingless to never give up. Well, now Federer, now shows passion, and heart, and desperatly wants to defend his title. When you have a guy as talented as Federer that has heart, he'll be an unstoppable force, almost impossible to beat.

Lalitha
06-30-2004, 06:51 AM
Federer should be through in 4 sets. But he just have to work on every point. Lleyton will not make errors that easily.

RoddickBabe10
06-30-2004, 06:52 AM
What makes me even more confident that Roger's gonna sweep lleyton off the court is. Potato is know for his passion, his heart and willingless to never give up. Well, now Federer, now shows passion, and heart, and desperatly wants to defend his title. When you have a guy as talented as Federer that has heart, he'll be an unstoppable force, almost impossible to beat.

I agree with you. But Lleyton also shows passion, and heart. He is also confident and I'm sure this will be a great match. (a five-setter, maybe?)

GO LLEYTON!!:yippee:

Zetlandsk
06-30-2004, 06:56 AM
Federer will win, but he will have to play as well as he has the last two times he met Hewitt, and if he does that, there can only be one winner and it won't be Hewitt.

Scotso
06-30-2004, 06:59 AM
It's too bad that this has to be the quarterfinal matchup. The two best grass players left in the draw.

Most of the other quarterfinals are kinda jokes.

Anyway, good luck Lleyton.

Lisbeth
06-30-2004, 07:02 AM
I think the chances of either of these guys tanking is zero. They will both give it their all - that's just one of the reason why they are two of my favourites!

akin
06-30-2004, 07:18 AM
It would be nice to see Rogi choke...but we'll see. :devil:

WyveN
06-30-2004, 07:46 AM
It's too bad that this has to be the quarterfinal matchup. The two best grass players left in the draw.

Most of the other quarterfinals are kinda jokes.


jokes?
Schalken, Grosjean, Henman, Roddick & even Ancic (only in potential) have consistently been the best grass courters over the past few years.
Leaves only Mayer and given how little anyone knows about him it is to early to call him a joke.

WyveN
06-30-2004, 07:48 AM
It would be nice to see Rogi choke...but we'll see. :devil:

Personally in just about every tennis match I hope both players play their best tennis, especially in big matches, rather then praying that one of them "chokes".

Lalitha
06-30-2004, 09:34 AM
ya yes, it will be less exciting after all this hype if one player chokes

budikovac
06-30-2004, 10:24 AM
Federer will win in straight sets without dropping a serve (maybe just one)!

trixy
06-30-2004, 10:57 AM
Well I just hope its a great match. I'm not a huge fan of either but seeing Hewitt lose after hearing the shitty commentators go on about Hewitt and that DC semi-final just shits me. So i hope Federer can win but then again im sick of Fed winning.....

denim
06-30-2004, 11:21 AM
Hewitt might win a set at best but I fancy Roger in 3.

Corey Feldman
06-30-2004, 11:52 AM
come on fed/hewitt, have a nice long gruelling 5 setter so whoever wins can be shagged out by the time henman plays him in the final ;) :lol: :lol:

Space Cowgirl
06-30-2004, 11:56 AM
LET'S GO ROGER!!! Time to quiet down those "c'mons" :lol:

Yeah, wonder how many times Hewitt is gonna yell "c'mon" in this match :shout:

WyveN
06-30-2004, 11:59 AM
When they played in Hamburg, Hewitt did his first "Cmon" when he broke Roger's serve while Federer was serving for the match but then Roger proceeded to smack 4 winners past Lleyton to close out the match :lol:

Corey Feldman
06-30-2004, 12:00 PM
Yeah, wonder how many times Hewitt is gonna yell "c'mon" in this match :shout:
yes hewitt is a bit over the top with those yells, i mean he even did it after he won match point v Goran in gorans last moment........little disrespectful bloody mongrel :lol:

FanOfHewitt
06-30-2004, 12:17 PM
Yeah, wonder how many times Hewitt is gonna yell "c'mon" in this match :shout:

Hopefully quite a few times, becuase it will mean he's in there with a fighting chance.

Auscon
06-30-2004, 04:22 PM
Unbelievable first set from Federer....

Lleyton really needs to pick up his first serve % to even have a chance here

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 04:24 PM
Fed won the first set in his sleep 6/1

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-30-2004, 04:26 PM
wow, I cant believe it, 6-1; I mean, I can--but you know, it's unbelievable-- unbelievable stuff

he really is superhuman

Auscon
06-30-2004, 04:30 PM
both guys had only 2 unforced errors in that first set

Pretty much came down to Federer serving brilliantly, and Lleyton serving fairly shite

and just missed out on another break point opportunity because of an excellent serve

play suspended...

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 04:31 PM
Hopefully quite a few times, becuase it will mean he's in there with a fighting chance.
I hope so....but right now the only thing coming out of his mouth is the f word. :)

Cīmon Lleyton!!!!

Auscon
06-30-2004, 04:33 PM
I hope so....but right now the only thing coming out of his mouth is the f word. :)

Cīmon Lleyton!!!!


heheh

Even if Federer manages to blitz him again in this second set, I'll still count Lleyton as a chance

but heres hoping it doesnt come to that

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 04:38 PM
heheh

Even if Federer manages to blitz him again in this second set, I'll still count Lleyton as a chance

but heres hoping it doesnt come to that

sure....remember the DC match...but I think Federer wasnīt playing like this back then

pinky
06-30-2004, 04:43 PM
The difference between Fed and Hewitt is really much closer than what the first set score would let people think. Fed got quite a few very tough time keeping his serve.

I hope the rain stops fast, i want to see the continuation of this game now :P

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 04:51 PM
Right. Hewitt had a good start but he couldnīt take advantage of the BP (hitting wide a second serve return) in the third game, then he played a lausy fourth game and it was over.

FanOfHewitt
06-30-2004, 04:53 PM
Federer is winning basically the same percent of points on Hewitt's first and second serve.

The only way out for Hewitt is if Federer goes off the boil a bit and Hewitt breaks Federer a couple times to let Federer know that he is not invincible. He is playing with too much confidence at the moment.

Alisa
06-30-2004, 04:56 PM
can't believe that the score is 6-1.... Hey, Lleyton, u still have a chance!!! Don't give up!!!!

http://fbm.ru/LH-ani.gif

yanchr
06-30-2004, 05:03 PM
Yeah Roger is playing with a hell of confidence now. Even when he was faced with BP, he never stroke me as to let his opponent take the chance. He is just tooooooo calm and composed and can't believe in himself more.

CmonAussie
06-30-2004, 05:19 PM
@@ Hewitt's 1st Serve %percentage is terrible~~ he can't continue to serve at 40% if he hopes to challenge Federer Express>_<..

I still have faith & this rain delay atleast gives John Newcombe a chance to speak with Rocky Llegs in the Locker Room & tell the gutsy Aussie how to regain the 'eye of the tiger'!!!

Auscon
06-30-2004, 05:40 PM
a few positive serves towards the end of that game, but its still a shocking percentage

gotta change this very quickly

Auscon
06-30-2004, 05:46 PM
a love game for Lleyton off of second serves

not gonna see too much of that

|-Safin_Coria-|
06-30-2004, 05:48 PM
i was really shocked when i saw the 1st set score...Hewitt seems to be doing better now, i'm not watching the match, only the live scoring....so i dunno!
Alisa, nice banner! how do you make those?

CmonAussie
06-30-2004, 05:51 PM
Hang in there Rocky Mate~~ remember you can beat this freakily skilled magician*!

Auscon
06-30-2004, 05:59 PM
bloody rain

well, better for Lleyton there, but his serve was still bad and Federers was still great

So with things the way they are, if Lleyton manages to hold serve, and so does Federer, then I dont like Lleytons chances all too much in the tie, but you never know...especially with Lleyton

Socket
06-30-2004, 06:03 PM
a love game for Lleyton off of second serves

not gonna see too much of that

Amazing how he does that, isn't it? Lleyton may have one of the best second serves on the tour. He shouldn't need to hit a second serve as often as he does, but at least it generally functions as a weapon when he has to use it.

Auscon
06-30-2004, 06:07 PM
Fingers crossed that Lleyton can take this second set

If he cant, then its a long way back against such a great player

And if he takes it, it'll be the first set Federer will have dropped so far, and coming off such a great first set, it might just play on his mind

If we're lucky :)

FanOfHewitt
06-30-2004, 06:11 PM
Lleyton's hanging in there - helped by some unforced errors by Federer. Lleyton chucked everything he had at Roger's last service game, but couldn't get a break opportunity.

MissPovaFan
06-30-2004, 06:23 PM
This set will be crucial to Hewitt's chances - I think if he loses it Id back Federer 99% but if Hewitt can win it Id say the match would be 70-30 in Federer's favour.

LCeh
06-30-2004, 06:25 PM
The rain kind of saved Hewitt. By the looks of things, if there wasn't the first rain break, the set might have probably ended already. But now it's 5-5, and another rain break. Never know what happens after a rain break...

Auscon
06-30-2004, 06:31 PM
Play set to resume shortly

now or never Lleyton!

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:03 PM
This is why i love this aussie......heīs got some B- - -S

BTW...nice serving from Roger at 5-6 15-40

MissPovaFan
06-30-2004, 07:07 PM
1 set all now :p

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:07 PM
AWESOME STUFF LLEYTON!

takes the tie 7-1

and your right, those were some awesome serves to get to the tie from Federer

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:08 PM
and a break point chance

go mate...

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:08 PM
once again, Federer with a great crunch serve

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 07:09 PM
Noooooo. The potato took a set from Roger :o

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:10 PM
THAT WAS IN! YOU BASTARDS!

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:10 PM
NOOO....that call!!!

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:12 PM
Cīmon Lleyton.........get a break NOW

|-Safin_Coria-|
06-30-2004, 07:12 PM
go lleyton!

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:13 PM
good to push federer in his first service game

now federer needs to not push lleyton :)

MissPovaFan
06-30-2004, 07:17 PM
Hewitt just saved a break point on his serve. Back to Deuce. First serves for Hewitt is 38%! Advantage Hewitt as I write.

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:17 PM
holy cow, now thats a bad double fault

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:19 PM
now theres a kick in the guts

Federer breaks on an incredible point

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:20 PM
Did you see that double fault?

Oh nooo....what a rally just now!!

Damn call...Federer was hitting it from out the court.

MissPovaFan
06-30-2004, 07:21 PM
That was apparently Federer's first drop shot of this years championships LOL. As I write its now 40-15 on Federer's serve.

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:21 PM
Sorry for the echo!!

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 07:22 PM
I have a taste for a bagel :lick:

|-Safin_Coria-|
06-30-2004, 07:22 PM
ouch...38% first serve?!?
thats harsh..

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:23 PM
he holds with ease

This sets rapidly getting out of reach

MissPovaFan
06-30-2004, 07:25 PM
Double break for Federer! 4-0 Federer, Federer Serving.

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:25 PM
This is the first set going all over again...CRAP!!

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:25 PM
that was terrible

wheres the rain? :)

|-Safin_Coria-|
06-30-2004, 07:26 PM
i think the rain kicked in, its suspended again

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:26 PM
17 aces to 1

and 3 and a half in a row just about completes Lleytons mauling in this 3rd set

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:28 PM
i think the rain kicked in, its suspended again

dont know about that

but I know Lleytons sure suspended somewhere.....

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:28 PM
Avoid the bagel Lleyton!!

MissPovaFan
06-30-2004, 07:28 PM
O Dear Hewitt is now 0-30 on his serve.

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 07:29 PM
Anyone who is watching, two q's:

1) Who got a bad call and when? Was it an important call?
2) What happened to Lleyton's return game in the 3rd?

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:30 PM
17 aces to 1

and 3 and a half in a row just about completes Lleytons mauling in this 3rd set

Thatīs the only diffrence between them today....SERVE

Port_Power
06-30-2004, 07:30 PM
COME ON ROCKY!!!!! not all is lost yet!!!

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:30 PM
what a bloody horrible set of tennis from Lleyton

Auscon
06-30-2004, 07:32 PM
Anyone who is watching, two q's:

1) Who got a bad call and when? Was it an important call?
2) What happened to Lleyton's return game in the 3rd?

1) Break point on federers serve in his opening service game of the 3rd, hewitts winning shot was in but was called out

2) cant remember...that whole set was a blur to me....probably the same thing that happened to it in almost every game in that set...it turned to pieces...and some of the time it didnt even get a chance with one brilliant serve after another

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:33 PM
Oh Oh...whatīs wrong with Lleyton?
Hope itīs nothing serious

Port_Power
06-30-2004, 07:33 PM
OMG he is injured.. damn it..he needs his wheels

|-Safin_Coria-|
06-30-2004, 07:35 PM
:eek: whats going on?

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:36 PM
Hes got the best pair of legs on the tour...only Coriaīs come close

Carito_90
06-30-2004, 07:37 PM
Double BP Lleyton! :banana:

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:38 PM
He canīt keep forgiving Federer on BP

Carito_90
06-30-2004, 07:39 PM
Game federer damn it 1-0

Port_Power
06-30-2004, 07:41 PM
Hewitt is having his fair share of chances... i hope he converts a friggin break point soon

Carito_90
06-30-2004, 07:43 PM
Deuce
COME ON LLEYTON!

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:43 PM
I guess it wasnīt serious..He might have called the trainer to get a massage while Roger was at the bathroom :) :)

MissPovaFan
06-30-2004, 07:43 PM
Yep he certainly needs to convert some soon! Maybe he will have a chance here as hes got Federer to 40-30

Carito_90
06-30-2004, 07:44 PM
2-1 ack

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 07:44 PM
Nope.

Havok
06-30-2004, 07:47 PM
Wow you know the mods dont give a crap about this site when a whole live scoring thread is happening. Carry along it doesn't really matter anyways, I don't know why people go nuts over live scores in the GM at wtaworld anyways. and what a weird scoreline, I think both players are good enough for it NOT to resemble a wta match

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:54 PM
OMG....Hewitt is playing great from the baseline. Too bad Federer is serving great when he needs to.

MissPovaFan
06-30-2004, 07:55 PM
3-3 now with Federer serving. 0-30 on the Federer serve!

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:56 PM
15-40. Here it comes again.

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 07:57 PM
Cīmon!!!!! First break for Lleyton

Havok
06-30-2004, 07:59 PM
Federer gets broken in god kows how long :scared: what if this does go to 5 sets, then Mal (:retard: ) will actually be correct

MissPovaFan
06-30-2004, 08:03 PM
Hewitt messed it up by not consolodating and got broken back to 30. 15-15 on the Federer serve now.

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 08:05 PM
Nice forehand passing shot from the aussie to get a BP. Guess what? Ace. Itps deuce.

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 08:09 PM
Hewitt to serve to stay in the match.

Fed got broken??? I was in the shower. That's the first time since Qtrs of last year :scared:

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 08:11 PM
Match point.

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 08:11 PM
Mp

alita
06-30-2004, 08:11 PM
The match make me choke. I'm watching...it's very hard for me...Lleyton...
I feel Lleyton is tired, I don't know, I'm worring...

MissPovaFan
06-30-2004, 08:11 PM
and Federer wins! On a double fault!

Gonzalo81
06-30-2004, 08:12 PM
Game, set and match Mr. Federer

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 08:12 PM
Fed wins 6/1 6/7 (1) 6/0 6/4

What a weird looking scoreline. I guess whenever Hewitt tried to step it up, Fed raised his game to godlike levels How :scared:

Havok
06-30-2004, 08:13 PM
At WImbledon, yes the last time was the QF at last year's Wimbledon, but I was told that he was broken during an early round match at Halle. And as I type, pathetic Hewitt can't even hold his damn serve to get to 5 all in the 4th set:haha: Nice test for Roger, was the first time he lost a set and was broken, but that lapse of concentration in the 2nd set after he steamrolled in the first is a bit weird. You normaly see retarded one sided sets followed by the tight loss of the next set in wta matches.

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 08:13 PM
Arrrrg. I "hate" this guys who can rely on their serve to get them outta trouble every single time.

Havok
06-30-2004, 08:15 PM
so did Lleyton really DF on matchpoint? he did the exact same thing when Roddick beat him at Queens :o Shows that he lacks faith and belief in himself to beat the top players.

Deboogle!.
06-30-2004, 08:15 PM
Yea Naldo he did..... so much for him being the mentally toughest player on tour?

oh well, too bad Lleyton...

Gonzalo81
06-30-2004, 08:15 PM
Agreed logi ;)

MagoRG
06-30-2004, 08:18 PM
so did Lleyton really DF on matchpoint? he did the exact same thing when Roddick beat him at Queens :o Shows that he lacks faith and belief in himself to beat the top players.
He actually DF 2 or 3 times to get broken.

Havok
06-30-2004, 08:19 PM
Ack, where has his strong mental side gone :bolt:

Auscon
06-30-2004, 08:20 PM
Even though he's the only player so far in the tourny to have taken a set off of roger, and to have broken his serve, those 2 sets of 6-16-0 pretty much overshadow it

Too bad anyone who didnt see the match will have no idea as to how many times things couldve gone either way.....but in many ways it never really had a chance to, with Federer coming up with the big first serve on nearly every break point opportunity Lleyton had

It was an insanely exciting match, but alot of the time, for all the wrong reasons

|-Safin_Coria-|
06-30-2004, 08:20 PM
aw man, what a horrible way to end it!

Auscon
06-30-2004, 08:21 PM
Yeah, the double faults on crucial points, the implosions every now and then

It wasnt a pretty loss for Lleyton

kim-fan
06-30-2004, 08:22 PM
this sucks so much! why is federer so good???? :(

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 08:24 PM
Welcome back Pete :lol:

It came down to this, Fed played the big points better.

Tennis Fool
06-30-2004, 08:25 PM
Uhhh...Wimbledon site is calling this a Classic :scared:

Havok
06-30-2004, 08:28 PM
:haha: how is this a classic? it doesn't fit the term in any shape or form :scared:

Auscon
06-30-2004, 08:30 PM
Welcome back Pete :lol:

It came down to this, Fed played the big points better.

yep....he was mr clutch

Auscon
06-30-2004, 08:32 PM
Uhhh...Wimbledon site is calling this a Classic :scared:

Well, there were plenty brilliant exchanges

It was a heck of a rollercoaster ride

but a classic should be one that shows up on the scoreboard....and not just for 1 set

FanOfHewitt
06-30-2004, 08:38 PM
Federer showed Sampras-like qualities on the big points on his serve. Whenever Lleyton got a break point or a duece Federer just came up with a great serve to keep him out of it.

Too good.

And Federer was all over Lleyton's serve for the majority of the match. Must have been seeing the tennis balls like footballs after having to deal with Karlovic's serves.

Auscon
06-30-2004, 08:41 PM
Federer showed Sampras-like qualities on the big points on his serve. Whenever Lleyton got a break point or a duece Federer just came up with a great serve to keep him out of it.

Too good.

And Federer was all over Lleyton's serve for the majority of the match. Must have been seeing the tennis balls like footballs after having to deal with Karlovic's serves.

yeah, and didnt have to reach to the sky to catch them on the bounce either :)

Lleyton had a few really good service games...especially in the 4th...blew past Federer in those....but just couldnt do it when it really counted

WyveN
06-30-2004, 08:52 PM
Most impressive thing from Federer was how he would steamroll Lleyton as soon as he would get a sniff in the match

Just about all the break points were saved by Federer, and not all of them with good serves while Hewitt would double fault on a few break points, I guess that just shows Federer has taken over with the Champions mentality.

Pretty fun match, not many errors at all and a lot of exciting points, but the rain delays ruined any sort of continuity. Hewitt gave it all he had and played a very good match but Federer was a bit better in the end.

RogiFan88
06-30-2004, 08:53 PM
a pretty loss?? what loss is pretty?

anyway, Lleyt has lost so much confidence altho he's trying hard to come back and has done well [better than Maratski] but looks like Rogi is now turning the tables on him

Rogi didn't win easily but then LLeyt always pushes him; nice to see another bagel for Rog tho -- but losing the TB so badly was not nice at all... yikes!

ROgi won and that's what counts, so onto the SF v. Seb?? did he finish his match today??

little duck
06-30-2004, 08:54 PM
Fed was majestic in the first set - some games were among the most beautifully worked out points I ever saw - and in other sets he served exactly like Sampras!

RogiFan88
06-30-2004, 08:55 PM
haven't checked the stats but Rogi must not have been serving that well today and it LOOKED like he made quite a few UEs fr the commentary

CmonAussie
06-30-2004, 09:07 PM
@@ Federer is simply too good for Hewitt at the moment {especially on Grass}!!

However the match was closer than the scoreline(games) would suggest>_<...

Hewitt~ Break Points Won = 1/11 (9%); Federer~ Break Points Won = 7/14 (50%)
Total Points Won = 104 Total Points Won = 123


*#* Still very disappointing for Rocky Llegs to give up his break so meekly in the 4th set; particularly sad when he double-faulted twice to give Roger the break-back & the match in consecutive service games >_<...

Poor Lleyton he fights so hard but the confidence is not what it used to be**!

J. Corwin
06-30-2004, 09:30 PM
"At least" Lleyton was able to break the Federer serve. :scared: :retard:

Lisbeth
07-01-2004, 01:08 AM
Well done Roger! What a classy player he is. And congratulations to Lleyton too on a great week of tennis and putting up a good fight.

Just as well all tennis matches are not that good or I would never get to sleep at this time of year ;)

star
07-01-2004, 01:21 AM
@@ Federer is simply too good for Hewitt at the moment {especially on Grass}!!

However the match was closer than the scoreline(games) would suggest>_<...

Hewitt~ Break Points Won = 1/11 (9%); Federer~ Break Points Won = 7/14 (50%)
Total Points Won = 104 Total Points Won = 123


*#* Still very disappointing for Rocky Llegs to give up his break so meekly in the 4th set; particularly sad when he double-faulted twice to give Roger the break-back & the match in consecutive service games >_<...

Poor Lleyton he fights so hard but the confidence is not what it used to be**!

Yeah. He said his quad injury contributed to his poor serving.

CarnivalCarnage
07-01-2004, 01:27 AM
You know what blew? Coverage stopped at ten o'clock at 6-1 5-6 Federer for some reason. Then I went to bed.

Looks like Lleyton tried hard, and he managed a set. A good effort, I think.

The Fed-Roddick final looks more and more likely ...

ŋesquímaux?
07-01-2004, 02:15 AM
Federer has an unbelievable ground game. It's truly astonishing to see him play.

Fedex
07-01-2004, 02:21 AM
Well, done to Hewitt for making this a closer match. I mean Federer could of won 6-1, 7-6, 6-0, but fell apart in the breaker, letting Hewitt get that set. So Lleyton has been bageled by Roger in the last 3 matches they've played That could of been two bagels today too. :eek: But it certainly wasnt a classic. Alot of good points though. Still Lleyton won only 12 games in 4 sets, lost serve 7 times, and only won 5 games in sets 1,3, & 4. I did want Roger to keep that serve streak going though ;) Roger made this closer than he needed to, but still was pretty awesome at times. While he had 19 aces and 0 doubles, his serve % was crap compared to his other 4 matches, which i think is part of why Hewitt did manage to break his serve.

Billabong
07-01-2004, 03:28 AM
Fed :woohoo:!!! Now keep it up and continue the great work:D!!!

Lleyton, good effort :yeah:!

lizabeth..*
07-01-2004, 03:31 AM
Does this mean Channel 9 is going to stop coverage in Australia now?! :lol:
Poor guys, they have nothing left to talk about! :rolleyes:

Great win Roger....he played very well indeed!! My dream would be a Rogi Fed v Mario final now, but I'm not going to get my hopes up! lol

chris whiteside
07-01-2004, 07:02 AM
I'm not anti-Australian, I admire Phillippoussis but I just cannot stick Hewitt and it really cheered me up yesterday to see him lose especially to see the sick look on his face when it was on a double fault. As the two players I just didn't want to win the Championships were Hewitt and Capriati it was a great day even though Henman lost, but he deserved to - he was dire.

However, being objective I would have to say that I don't think any player other than Federer would have beaten Hewitt yesterday. It was a great tennis match and it is looking increasingly likely that Federer is becoming invincible. However, I don't think it would be good for the game were one player to dominate.

CmonAussie
07-01-2004, 07:10 AM
I'm not anti-Australian, I admire Phillippoussis but I just cannot stick Hewitt and it really cheered me up yesterday to see him lose especially to see the sick look on his face when it was on a double fault. As the two players I just didn't want to win the Championships were Hewitt and Capriati it was a great day even though Henman lost, but he deserved to - he was dire.

However, being objective I would have to say that I don't think any player other than Federer would have beaten Hewitt yesterday. It was a great tennis match and it is looking increasingly likely that Federer is becoming invincible. However, I don't think it would be good for the game were one player to dominate.
:rolleyes: :sad:
Nationalities aside-->> how can you "admire Philippoussis but...cannot stick Hewitt..."? :eek: :confused: !
In terms of Talent{Weapons} vs Effort{pure guts} & positive attituded Rocky Llegs Hewitt is light-years ahead of his fellow countryman :angel:. Of course I like both players & feel sorry for Scud that he hasn't won a Slam considering his chances over the years BUT Hewitt continuely puts everything on the line & prepares himself as much as possible for the big matches~~ you could see he gave all he had against Federer but was just outclassed this time.
@@ Anyway you're welcome to your opinions though I fail to see how anyone can respect Mark P Scud Dud more than Passionate Lleyton 'eye-of-the-tiger' Hewitt :worship: :worship: !

WyveN
07-01-2004, 08:24 AM
@@ Anyway you're welcome to your opinions though I fail to see how anyone can respect Mark P Scud Dud more than Passionate Lleyton 'eye-of-the-tiger' Hewitt :worship: :worship: !

Did you see when Hewitt got broken for the first time in the first set? Federer hit a return winner that landed right on the baseline (hawkeye showed it), Hewitt left it yet complained it was the wrong call to the line judge/umpire.
Hewitt was right above that and he knew perfectly well that ball was in yet to look around as if he had been robbed was a perfect example of why a lot of people dislike him.

tennisvideos
07-01-2004, 08:50 AM
Did you see when Hewitt got broken for the first time in the first set? Federer hit a return winner that landed right on the baseline (hawkeye showed it), Hewitt left it yet complained it was the wrong call to the line judge/umpire.
Hewitt was right above that and he knew perfectly well that ball was in yet to look around as if he had been robbed was a perfect example of why a lot of people dislike him.

Heaps of players question calls and Lleyton did it once during the match. Big friggen deal. How would you cope under the spotlight and pressure of international tennis with so much at stake?????

I don't think any of us armchair critics have the right to be so judgemental.

Yes, people are entitled to disklike Lleyton, or whoever they choose.... but to cite such a trivial example just shows how shallow human beings can be.

jeanie_sin
07-01-2004, 09:53 AM
it's precisely because you all hate hewitt that much that u have to observe him so closely and jump on every error that he makes, trying to make him look bad

Lisbeth
07-01-2004, 11:22 AM
If you hated every player who ever challenged a line call, your tennis watching would be pretty much limited to watching repeats of Rafter v Sampras. Maybe the odd match between Swedes too, but you'd have to edit them carefully!

Lisbeth
07-01-2004, 11:29 AM
Most impressive thing from Federer was how he would steamroll Lleyton as soon as he would get a sniff in the match

Just about all the break points were saved by Federer, and not all of them with good serves while Hewitt would double fault on a few break points, I guess that just shows Federer has taken over with the Champions mentality.

Pretty fun match, not many errors at all and a lot of exciting points, but the rain delays ruined any sort of continuity. Hewitt gave it all he had and played a very good match but Federer was a bit better in the end.

Yep, that's about the story. Federer won the big points. Also, Hewitt just double faulted too much full stop (not just on break points ;) ) but generally I think they both played very well. Don't know about "classic" though, maybe it was written by one of those newish fans who think every tournament is either the best or the worst in the entire history of tennis!

WyveN
07-01-2004, 11:31 AM
He challenged a line call that he had a great view on and knew perfectly well that it was the correct call, I don't know many players who do that.

Lisbeth
07-01-2004, 11:40 AM
I missed that, but if that's how you saw it then I understand why you feel that way. However, I prefer not to assume what players know or don't know since I am not out in the heat of the match and I don't see that ball through their eyes. I've seen players who I think are fabulous good sports challege lined I thought were very clearly in but I don't know what they saw or didn't see so it doesn't affect my view of them. But if you're sure you know what Lleyton knew then you're just sure I guess, and I don't remember the incident so I won't argue.

BTW, I don't have a problem at all with people not liking Lleyton (I have my own reasons for being a big fan of his which do no just relate to what he gets up to on a tennis court, even though what he does get up to only bothers me sometimes). I do like even across the board standards applied (and I'm not accusing you of not doing that, particularly now that I understand your explanation as you see it).

Lisbeth
07-01-2004, 11:44 AM
Does this mean Channel 9 is going to stop coverage in Australia now?! :lol:
Poor guys, they have nothing left to talk about! :rolleyes:

Great win Roger....he played very well indeed!! My dream would be a Rogi Fed v Mario final now, but I'm not going to get my hopes up! lol

They'll probably just show Woodbridge/Molik and Woodbridge/Bjorkman matches ... and don't forget they have reminiscings of 20 years of their own matches to bore us with ;)

I love watching Roger play anybody so I hope we do still get full coverage - we probably will.

WyveN
07-01-2004, 11:55 AM
I do like even across the board standards applied (and I'm not accusing you of not doing that, particularly now that I understand your explanation as you see it).

It was in the first game that Hewitt serve got broken in the first set on break point, Hewitt served, Federer hit a return that Lleyton left and hoped would go out (he was right over the top of it) and when no call came he looked around like he had been robbed and had a few words to the umpire. Hawkeye showed the ball well in.

Someone else might see nothing wrong with that and thats fine but I do so I guess we are all entitled to our opinions.

CmonAussie
07-01-2004, 12:52 PM
Did you see when Hewitt got broken for the first time in the first set? Federer hit a return winner that landed right on the baseline (hawkeye showed it), Hewitt left it yet complained it was the wrong call to the line judge/umpire.
Hewitt was right above that and he knew perfectly well that ball was in yet to look around as if he had been robbed was a perfect example of why a lot of people dislike him.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :sad: :sad:
@@ From this post I lose a lot of respect for you WyveN :o !
--->>> Do you really believe the crap you write :confused: ? If you want to talk about line calls; then what about the line call which Hawk-eye showed clearly in at 30-40 on Federer's serve 1st Game of the 3rd set :sad: ! Lleyton hit the winner perfectly on the line & under the Umpire's chair; which Roger had no chance of getting a racket to & would have given Hewitt a decisive break there, the call was overruled by the Umpire but he made it a "replay point" :eek: ,even though Lleyton's winner was clearly not going to be returned by Roger...
:rolleyes: A similar bad call happened to Hewitt at a decisive stage of Roger/Lleyton's Rd4 match at AO this year{when Lleyton was a set up & 3-3 (40-30) in the 2nd set}~ that was a "foot fault" which the camera showed clearly incorrect...
Both those bad calls were huge momentum swingers in the matches between Hewitt/Federer~~ in neither case did Lleyton complain nor make any excuses for losing, he didn't protest either of them though many players would have!!

:cool: :cool: Rocky Llegs is a class act; the only thing time he lost his cool was when he dropped the "F-word" once~ shouting at himself in frustration due to his failure to capitalise on the several 'break-points' he had!

:devil: You are very annoyingly self-righteous & proud of yourself WyveN; when will you show a little class & maturity :confused: !

Auscon
07-01-2004, 01:23 PM
Does this mean Channel 9 is going to stop coverage in Australia now?! :lol:
Poor guys, they have nothing left to talk about! :rolleyes:


far from it :)

definitely crushed to lose Mark and Lleyton....first time in 4 years there wont be an Aussie in the wimbledon singles final,

But we've got an aussie guaranteed in the mens doubles final (Jonas and Todd play against Wayne Arthurs and Paul Hanley in the semis)

And we've got an almost guaranteed spot in the mixed doubles semi with 4 aussies spread across 3 teams...unfortunately all 3 of those teams are in the same part of the draw, so at best only 1 team will get through to the semi's

And Rennae Stubbs is into the semi finals of the womens doubles

CmonAussie
07-01-2004, 01:31 PM
far from it :)

definitely crushed to lose Mark and Lleyton....first time in 4 years there wont be an Aussie in the wimbledon singles final,

But we've got an aussie guaranteed in the mens doubles final (Jonas and Todd play against Wayne Arthurs and Paul Hanley in the semis)

And we've got an almost guaranteed spot in the mixed doubles semi with 4 aussies spread across 3 teams...unfortunately all 3 of those teams are in the same part of the draw, so at best only 1 team will get through to the semi's

And Rennae Stubbs is into the semi finals of the womens doubles
:wavey: :cool:
Yeah Cmon Aussie Cmon Cmon... Cmon Wayno Cmon Cmon... Wayne Arthurs time has finally arrived~ just 2-matches from holding a Slam Trophy, of course it's going to be shared with Hanley but lets face it Arthurs is at the end of the line in his career & this would be a highlight of his career if he can nab the Wimbledon Doubles crown :angel: ; the other highlight being his win with Woodbridge to help AUS claim Davis Cup last year :worship: :worship:

Auscon
07-01-2004, 01:36 PM
:wavey: :cool:
the other highlight being his win with Woodbridge to help AUS claim Davis Cup last year :worship: :worship:

Yeah, they were great in that match

WyveN
07-01-2004, 01:39 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :sad: :sad:
@@ From this post I lose a lot of respect for you WyveN :o !
--->>> Do you really believe the crap you write :confused: ? If you want to talk about line calls; then what about the line call which Hawk-eye showed clearly in at 30-40 on Federer's serve 1st Game of the 3rd set :sad: ! Lleyton hit the winner perfectly on the line & under the Umpire's chair; which Roger had no chance of getting a racket to & would have given Hewitt a decisive break there, the call was overruled by the Umpire but he made it a "replay point" :eek: ,even though Lleyton's winner was clearly not going to be returned by Roger...
:rolleyes: A similar bad call happened to Hewitt at a decisive stage of Roger/Lleyton's Rd4 match at AO this year{when Lleyton was a set up & 3-3 (40-30) in the 2nd set}~ that was a "foot fault" which the camera showed clearly incorrect...
Both those bad calls were huge momentum swingers in the matches between Hewitt/Federer~~ in neither case did Lleyton complain nor make any excuses for losing, he didn't protest either of them though many players would have!!

:cool: :cool: Rocky Llegs is a class act; the only thing time he lost his cool was when he dropped the "F-word" once~ shouting at himself in frustration due to his failure to capitalise on the several 'break-points' he had!

:devil: You are very annoyingly self-righteous & proud of yourself WyveN; when will you show a little class & maturity :confused: !

What has any of this got to do with Lleyton questioning a line call that he knew was in?
You sound as biased as Newk.

Crazy_Fool
07-01-2004, 01:52 PM
C'mon Aussie - WyveN dislikes Hewitt, any little thing he does that maybe wrong, he critisces. Its because of people like him that I love Lleyton more actually.

Come On by Lleyton is one of my favourite things in the tennis world!! You have to love him for it. I don't spend my whole time posting things about Federer, Roddick or anyone else I dislike, but some people enjoy it.

tennisvideos
07-01-2004, 02:53 PM
What has any of this got to do with Lleyton questioning a line call that he knew was in?
You sound as biased as Newk.


Dear WyveN

I have myself in the heat of battle thought a ball that I was right next to was out, only to be told by my partner that it was in. So guess what - it does happen. When someone questions a call it's usually because they thought it went against them - doesn't mean they are right, but they think they are. And what is so wrong with that. It's only when it happens constantly that it can be annoying.

Anyway, time to move on. You don't like Hewitt and that's cool. There are some players that I am not keen on but I won't go beating up on them for trying to survive in the cut throat heat of battle. I know what it's like at my own tennis level - which, incidently, gets very intense :)

WyveN
07-02-2004, 04:44 AM
C'mon Aussie - WyveN dislikes Hewitt, any little thing he does that maybe wrong, he critisces.


Find me where I have criticised Hewitt's "racial" controversy or any of the other incidents involving him such as him calling umpires spastics. CmonAussie asked why some people don't like Hewitt, I replied, 3 different people yesterday told me what Lleyton did was "unaustralian".

WyveN
07-02-2004, 04:45 AM
Dear WyveN

I have myself in the heat of battle thought a ball that I was right next to was out, only to be told by my partner that it was in. So guess what - it does happen. When someone questions a call it's usually because they thought it went against them - doesn't mean they are right, but they think they are. And what is so wrong with that. It's only when it happens constantly that it can be annoying.


You have your opinion, I have mine.



Anyway, time to move on. You don't like Hewitt and that's cool. There are some players that I am not keen on but I won't go beating up on them for trying to survive in the cut throat heat of battle.

I don't beat up on Hewitt, CmonAussie asked a question, I replied.

Experimentee
07-02-2004, 09:36 AM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :sad: :sad:
@@ From this post I lose a lot of respect for you WyveN :o !
--->>> Do you really believe the crap you write :confused: ? If you want to talk about line calls; then what about the line call which Hawk-eye showed clearly in at 30-40 on Federer's serve 1st Game of the 3rd set :sad: ! Lleyton hit the winner perfectly on the line & under the Umpire's chair; which Roger had no chance of getting a racket to & would have given Hewitt a decisive break there, the call was overruled by the Umpire but he made it a "replay point" :eek: ,even though Lleyton's winner was clearly not going to be returned by Roger...
:rolleyes: A similar bad call happened to Hewitt at a decisive stage of Roger/Lleyton's Rd4 match at AO this year{when Lleyton was a set up & 3-3 (40-30) in the 2nd set}~ that was a "foot fault" which the camera showed clearly incorrect...
Both those bad calls were huge momentum swingers in the matches between Hewitt/Federer~~ in neither case did Lleyton complain nor make any excuses for losing, he didn't protest either of them though many players would have!!

:cool: :cool: Rocky Llegs is a class act; the only thing time he lost his cool was when he dropped the "F-word" once~ shouting at himself in frustration due to his failure to capitalise on the several 'break-points' he had!

:devil: You are very annoyingly self-righteous & proud of yourself WyveN; when will you show a little class & maturity :confused: !

I didnt like how Hewitt yelled out the F word when Roger hit a great forehand winner down a line. I didnt think that was classy at all.
You might not have a problem with his behaviour, but surely you can see how it annoys a lot of people.

WyveN
07-02-2004, 10:56 AM
I don't have a problem with Hewitt yelling "F***" at the end of the game, he was frustrated because he just couldn't break the Roger serve despite a lot of opportunities.
But what he did with that line call seemed like outright cheating to me, the ball was well in and he was right on top of it.

Lalitha
07-02-2004, 11:14 AM
I didnt like how Hewitt yelled out the F word when Roger hit a great forehand winner down a line. I didnt think that was classy at all.
You might not have a problem with his behaviour, but surely you can see how it annoys a lot of people.

Yes, it defenitely annoys. Come on, Come on is okay but such things can murmured to himself.

BaselineSmash
07-02-2004, 03:22 PM
Hewitt has himself to blame for not holding serve in the fourth against the Fedman. He never used to miss sitters at the net...

Port_Power
07-02-2004, 07:01 PM
Is it the first time you are seeing players disputing a line call that was clearly in? i have seen many such instances where players like agassi, scud, schuettler (to name a few)dispute line calls which are clearly out. Doesnt mean they are cheating hey? I like c'mon, and it doesnt matter if any of you guys dont like it, you are entitled to your choices and for the F word, he didnt direct it to someone else, it came outta frustration and directed to himself. And yes i agree, hewitt has himself to blame, he atleast should have taken federer to a 5th set.

WyveN
07-02-2004, 07:39 PM
Is it the first time you are seeing players disputing a line call that was clearly in?


No doesn't mean I have to approve it.

And yes i agree, hewitt has himself to blame, he atleast should have taken federer to a 5th set.

he choked on those double faults, sort of like Port Adelaide year after year

Port_Power
07-02-2004, 07:44 PM
No doesn't mean I have to approve it.

Thats your opinion, but in the heat of the moment it can happen
he choked on those double faults, sort of like Port Adelaide year after year
Which team you go for?

Port_Power
07-02-2004, 07:51 PM
oops sorry for messing up my last post..
i wanted to say.. which club do you go for? And hewitt didnt choke, he just doesnt play the big points as well as he used to do now.
And secondly Port Power Rules, we will be premiers in 04

Auscon
07-03-2004, 07:40 AM
Yes, it defenitely annoys. Come on, Come on is okay but such things can murmured to himself.

Federer does it too you know