Auscon
06-28-2004, 04:31 PM
02 Champ vs 03 Champ
Former world number 1 vs current world number 1
Heres hoping this will be a great match!
Former world number 1 vs current world number 1
Heres hoping this will be a great match!
QF: Lleyton Hewitt vs Roger FedererAuscon 06-28-2004, 04:31 PM 02 Champ vs 03 Champ Former world number 1 vs current world number 1 Heres hoping this will be a great match! jcman 06-28-2004, 04:34 PM hewitt!!!!! i hope he can win coz i cant stand VJ anymore he praises fed for every pt he win, he thinks he 's the tennis god, he's the greatest of all time and evey shot he hits is just unbelievable.. i cant stand him anymore and this makes me begin to hate fed Seraphim 06-28-2004, 04:37 PM god speed to the fiesty aussie and the serene pony-tailed one. Auscon 06-28-2004, 05:33 PM That last set of Hewitt vs Moya was pretty awesome....brilliant winners vs unforced errors ratio Hopefully he'll be able to keep that up for the next match Gonzo Hates Me! 06-28-2004, 05:35 PM Cheers! Heres hoping this will be a great match! Alisa 06-28-2004, 06:11 PM yea! hope hewitt would win!!!)) good luck to ya lleyton!! though rogi of course is brilliant playa as well! guess it would be a splendid match) Satanic Pasteur 06-28-2004, 06:41 PM Go Roger! Avenge four lefties. Hagar 06-28-2004, 07:13 PM The winner of this match will win the whole thing. Gonzalo81 06-28-2004, 07:23 PM Agreed.....;) Fumus 06-28-2004, 08:15 PM ...Well before we start to declare the trophy holder, alot can change in a week but, right now Hewitt is playing the best tennis that he can and so is Roger this could be more interesting than the final no matter who wins... undomiele 06-28-2004, 08:18 PM Wow. Im impressed with how well Hewitt has been playing. Good luck to him! May the best player win. Im sure it'll be a thriller!! :drool: LCeh 06-28-2004, 08:23 PM It will probably be a great match. Hewitt is playing extremely well, and I think maybe the only guy that can stop him is Roger, and vice versa. They seem to be playing pretty much to their best while others aren't exactly playing that well. Just hope it doesn't rain on Wednesday... :rolleyes: Fumus 06-28-2004, 08:39 PM LCeh, nothing can rain on Roger's parade it seems, except well, rain of course...lol Port_Power 06-28-2004, 09:41 PM COME ON LLEYTON!!!!!! I wish lleyton can win it, although roger will prolly roll. Maybe roger will have a bad day jtipson 06-28-2004, 09:44 PM Just hope it doesn't rain on Wednesday... :rolleyes: I expect it will rain, that's the forecast. But this quarter-final is likely to be the first course (the main dish for a British audience is Ancic-Henman), so the match is more likely to get completed. LCeh 06-28-2004, 09:51 PM I expect it will rain, that's the forecast. But this quarter-final is likely to be the first course (the main dish for a British audience is Ancic-Henman), so the match is more likely to get completed. In that sense I am glad it's the side-dish :p CarnivalCarnage 06-28-2004, 10:18 PM Well ... I don't think Lleyton has no chance, but you do have to favour Roger. Roger's won the last two ... if he wins again, the rivalry has officially swung the other way. But this is a good surface for Lleyton, I think he believes in himself again, and we'll just have to see. At the very least he should take a set, no? akin 06-28-2004, 10:26 PM Federer run is soon coming to an end...Lleyton will win and Roger will face defeat :yeah: Port_Power 06-28-2004, 10:27 PM I hope so, but i doubt it.. seriously, roger is basically hitting winners at will. I really doubt if fed express will stop. But lleyton has done it in the past, and i hope he will do it again. Deboogle!. 06-28-2004, 10:35 PM I expect it will rain, that's the forecast. Yea.... not looking good http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/local/UKXX0085?from=search_city :eek: But compare that to the BBC forecast LOL http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=3564 then here's the Wimby site forecast Wednesday 12 / 19 Sunny intervals Thursday 12 / 16 Sunny intervals Thursday 12 / 19 Sunny (Day) Saturday 12 / 19 Sunny intervals Why can't they agree? :lol: naiwen 06-29-2004, 12:13 AM I just can't wait to see the showdown. :wavey: rue 06-29-2004, 01:01 AM Roger is looking real good, so is Hewitt but I think that Roger will win it. He has been real good so far and he is a far better player. So the fedexpress will move on and to the finals from the way I see things. Fedex 06-29-2004, 01:17 AM Hewitt has no Chance :haha: :haha: :lol:, at anyone that thinks Rogi will lose to Lleyton. Another one - sided affair coming up soon :D :banana: :woohoo: conans _uncle_ted 06-29-2004, 01:46 AM Conans Uncle Ted feels Lleyton will have to be at his very very best and Roger will have to drop a level slightly but a Hewitt win is possible. CarnivalCarnage 06-29-2004, 01:49 AM Hewitt has no Chance :haha: :haha: :lol:, at anyone that thinks Rogi will lose to Lleyton. Another one - sided affair coming up soon :D :banana: :woohoo: Cocky. Unwise to dismiss somebody whom your player is 4-8 against, but ok. Lisbeth 06-29-2004, 01:52 AM I think that Roger is the favourite in ANY match he plays, including this one ... but on the other hand I don't exactly think he'll be thrilled at drawing an in-form Hewitt in the 1/4s. Hewitt has as good a chance to beat him as anyone and even when you're not dealing with a former champion in the same event, there's no such thing as "no chance" past the quarter finals. I do know that I am looking forward to this match. I just hope it's on early so it's still a civilised hour here! Billabong 06-29-2004, 01:55 AM I hope it will be a great match, it certainly has the potential to be a classic:D! Both players will need to be at their best:D! Fedex 06-29-2004, 01:55 AM Um, He's 4-7 against Hewitt and hasnt lost to him this year, and its been 9 monthes since he beat Federer, so I would choose youre words a little more wisely before you speak :o :fiery: J. Corwin 06-29-2004, 02:31 AM Hopefully Lleyton will give Roger a nice well fought match. Maybe even beat him too. ;) Fedex 06-29-2004, 02:37 AM But, Jackson, dont you want a Federer-Roddick final?? :confused: I'm confident about this match. Andy beat Hewitt easily, and Federer has more weapons than Andy. The one thing I AM worried about, is that the old Federer will show up and choke. That DC match will always linger in my mind when these two play. :o I will never forget it. :mad: tennisguru 06-29-2004, 02:46 AM No matters who wins, match is going to be just too good and probably winner is going to take the trophy too. Fedex 06-29-2004, 02:49 AM I actually doubt that. If Hewitt does the unthinkable and Federer chokes, I think Roddick or Henman will take him out in the final. Roddick killed him at Queens, so, and Henman nearly beat him at an exhibition (had like 3 match points). tennisguru 06-29-2004, 03:02 AM You are right Fedex, If Federer wins he is going to take the trophy and if unthinkable happens, its going to be Roddick. But I dont think Henman (if Tim beats Andy)can beat Hewitt, Hewitt holds so good record against Tim and his game is well suited for the serve volleyers. But Federer express is going to run through every one. CarnivalCarnage 06-29-2004, 03:04 AM Um, He's 4-7 against Hewitt and hasnt lost to him this year, and its been 9 monthes since he beat Federer, so I would choose youre words a little more wisely before you speak :o :fiery: ITF scores it 8-4, asshole. Yes, they count Hopman Cup, but that's still an official h2h. And it's "months". I'd spell your words a little more wisely if I were you. CarnivalCarnage 06-29-2004, 03:05 AM No matters who wins, match is going to be just too good and probably winner is going to take the trophy too. I don't think you can say that. Roddick and Henman can both throw a wrench into the machinery. Fedex 06-29-2004, 03:22 AM Hopman cup dosnt count in my views, ok CarnivalPOSCarnage!! :fiery: :mad: Its not an official tournement on tour. Thats like counting exhibition matches, its worthless. So the head 2 head STANDS AT 7-4 to Hewitt. CarnivalCarnage 06-29-2004, 03:24 AM Hopman cup dosnt count in my views, ok CarnivalPOSCarnage!! :fiery: :mad: Its not an official tournement on tour. Thats like counting exhibition matches, its worthless. So the head 2 head STANDS AT 7-4 to Hewitt. I wouldn't count it either. BUT THE ITF DOES. Therefore, it's an official head to head. That cannot be argued. undomiele 06-29-2004, 03:26 AM Please don't forget Grosjean. He's number 10 in the world and deserves SOME credit for being in the quarters sheesh! :rolleyes: He's doing pretty well! Fedex 06-29-2004, 03:28 AM Well, i only go by what the ATP says, and it say 7-4, so i am saying 7-4. I am sure that before the match starts, they'll talk about the Head 2 Head, put a graphic saying 7-4 to Hewitt, and then go on about how great Federer is, and is going to roll through in straights. Besides the fact that Federer has beaten Hewitt rather easily the last two times, makes me have firm belief, that it'll be the same here. LCeh 06-29-2004, 03:29 AM He really is. I saw Grosjean today and his play impresses me. He has an agressive slice, and great groundstrokes. Somehow the way he plays on grass reminds me of Roger. Should be a great semi-final coming up if Grosjean gets there too. Fedex 06-29-2004, 03:29 AM Yes, i did forget. If Hewitt gets by Federer (not happening), then Grosjean is going to beat up on Hewitt in the semis. Fedex 06-29-2004, 03:32 AM I love watching Grosjean play on grass. He does sort of remind me of Roger, only Roger usually does more Serve-Volleying than Seb. I love his forehand. Its a great shot. I hope we see a Federer-Grosjean semi. CarnivalCarnage 06-29-2004, 03:34 AM Well, i only go by what the ATP says, and it say 7-4, so i am saying 7-4. I am sure that before the match starts, they'll talk about the Head 2 Head, put a graphic saying 7-4 to Hewitt, and then go on about how great Federer is, and is going to roll through in straights. Besides the fact that Federer has beaten Hewitt rather easily the last two times, makes me have firm belief, that it'll be the same here. Maybe it will. But that's beside the point. The ITF counts Hopman. Regrettable. But they do. Doesn't the ATP count retarded events? The exhibition before the French, perhaps? The old Grand Slam Cup? No? And I do think it's a tossup. I have found in the past that the h2h's tend to come from the ITF site. The oft-repeated Hingis-Davenport h2h has always included their Hopman Cup match, on air and off. Auscon 06-29-2004, 03:37 AM Hopman cup dosnt count in my views, ok CarnivalPOSCarnage!! :fiery: :mad: Its not an official tournement on tour. Thats like counting exhibition matches, its worthless. So the head 2 head STANDS AT 7-4 to Hewitt. The Hopman Cup bloody well counts for me :) Nobody plays to lose, exhibition match or not Oh, and with a 7-0 record against Henman, I seriously doubt Henman could stop Hewitt if they met....especially with the form Lleytons in Fedex 06-29-2004, 03:41 AM I dont care. Federer has beaten Hewitt twice now, and very easily. This is a not the same Federer that lost to him the previous 7 times. I expect a 3 set win for Rogi, possibly pushed in 1 set, but winning the other 2 easily. Auscon 06-29-2004, 03:41 AM Hopefully the fact that Federer managed to win a set to love in each of their last 2 matches wont phase Lleyton.... CarnivalCarnage 06-29-2004, 03:45 AM I dont care. Federer has beaten Hewitt twice now, and very easily. This is a not the same Federer that lost to him the previous 7 times. I expect a 3 set win for Rogi, possibly pushed in 1 set, but winning the other 2 easily. Backing down eh.... Jazzy 06-29-2004, 03:49 AM i agree with Fedex! - a three setter! Gonzo Hates Me! 06-29-2004, 03:52 AM Wow, Lleyton has incredible winning records against "everybody and their mom" WyveN 06-29-2004, 03:57 AM Hewitt will certainly need the first set to have a decent chance hence a good start. Moya tried to play a Federer style game in the last 2 sets today, hitting slices, running around backhands and really going for the forehand but apart from the forehand he looked very clumsy out there compared to Roger. Dirk 06-29-2004, 04:00 AM Rogi won't be doing so much running around out there. Also Rogi can return very very well. I think Rogi will win but if he is iffy then Hewitt has a shot. Moya had his chances but Hewitt won the big points. Fedex 06-29-2004, 04:18 AM I think Roger will need to mix in more Serve and Volleying in his next match against Hewitt. He rarely did it today, even though his Serve % was 75%. Not overuse it though, because Hewitt is great at passes and lobs, but to keep Hewitt off balance. In his match at the Aussie Open, he would use his backhand slice, to force Hewitt to hit up, which then he would be able to usually rip a forehand winner off the next shot. I hope he slices the backhand plenty against Hewitt to set up his forehand. All in all, if Federer serves as well as he has( 71% avg. serve % for whole tournement), and while aces dont show it(29), he'll be fine. akin 06-29-2004, 04:33 AM I am not sure why but I sense that Rogi will not have a good day against Lleyton. Not much tennis analysis here...which is always useless at such level. The one who has a better day will win but I feel Rogi will choke. Final Australia v England :yeah: jtipson 06-29-2004, 09:05 AM I wouldn't count it either. BUT THE ITF DOES. Therefore, it's an official head to head. That cannot be argued. The ATP doesn't count it though. So it depends which you prefer. Lynne 06-29-2004, 09:15 AM It's gonna be a nice match.... Federer is sweeping aside anything that's standing in his way and Hewitt is playing great!! :) little duck 06-29-2004, 10:56 AM I would realy like this to be a thrilling match, but I think Hewitt has almost no chance. It will be Federer in three sets, because Hewitt can't play against Fderer any more. He already made all his wins against him. CmonAussie 06-29-2004, 11:03 AM I would realy like this to be a thrilling match, but I think Hewitt has almost no chance. It will be Federer in three sets, because Hewitt can't play against Fderer any more. He already made all his wins against him. :rolleyes: Overly simplified analysis & just plain wrong :eek: ! * Apart from Federer's easy victory over Hewitt in Hamburg-TMS on Clay non of Roger's 4-victories have been easy! And even with a 2-set lead & break in the 3rd, while Federer was basking in high of Wimbledon victory & Hewitt at his lowest confidence, the gutsy Rocky Llegs still found a way to win :worship: :worship: ! Federer is the favourite against everyone at the moment BUT Hewitt is one of the few guys capable of beating him in such a big match :angel: :p ! Lalitha 06-29-2004, 11:18 AM Federer - Hewitt QF's and Federer - Henman Finals. I think we will play these matches a few hundred times in our minds before it actually happens once. I wonder how difficult it will be for the players not to think about the match before it happens. MagoRG 06-29-2004, 05:22 PM I really want Hewitt to win. And I think he has a pretty good chance. The fact that Roger has NOT been challenged (no TOP 50) yet could actually help him. I know Iīm pushing it but I would love a "Davis Cup revival" whit Federer almost winning.... Go Lleyton!!! Alisa 06-29-2004, 05:40 PM i think the result of this match will depend on the things like who is less tired, who is more lucky etc. because they are both good players. and in the second half of the draw i wouldn't even think of the other player than roddick. so the final is gonna be roddick vs federer/hewitt. http://wallpapers.alfcomp.ru/LH-ani.gif rue 06-29-2004, 06:54 PM Federer - Hewitt QF's and Federer - Henman Finals. I definitely agree with that one. Hewitt will have to play out of his skin to beat Roger if Roger continues to play the way he has been. But Fedexpress will move on to the finals. Sarah 06-29-2004, 07:00 PM Well, i only go by what the ATP says, and it say 7-4, so i am saying 7-4. I am sure that before the match starts, they'll talk about the Head 2 Head, put a graphic saying 7-4 to Hewitt, and then go on about how great Federer is, and is going to roll through in straights. Besides the fact that Federer has beaten Hewitt rather easily the last two times, makes me have firm belief, that it'll be the same here. I don't think it really matters what the ATP says in their statistics, they played that match, Hewitt won, so why wouldn't it count? You're not gonna play a match and then say, oh, it's only for the Hopman Cup, if I lose it, it doesn't count anyway in the stats! If you play a match, you want to win it! but for tomorrows match? I have no idea, I hope Lleyton though I like Roger too... Ginger 06-29-2004, 07:10 PM I am not sure why but I sense that Rogi will not have a good day against Lleyton. Not much tennis analysis here...which is always useless at such level. The one who has a better day will win but I feel Rogi will choke. Final Australia v England :yeah: I have the same feeling... Hewitt will win it in 3 sets... Roger's game will gracefully fall into pieces... S&V won't work, serve will be slightly off, too much pressure on Federer right now... and we will finally see the effects of having been working without a coach for too long time....and a lot of racket throwing! Anyway, it will give Federer more time to enjoy the jetset life... :devil: MissPovaFan 06-29-2004, 07:36 PM hmmm nah I cant see Hewitt winning against Federer although I would like to see a Hewitt win :) Federer in 4 sets is my prediction. tangerine_dream 06-29-2004, 08:56 PM The best I can hope for is a good match; a 4 or 5-setter would be great. But I think Roger's gonna roll over Lleyton in straight sets. WyveN 06-29-2004, 11:57 PM I have the same feeling... Hewitt will win it in 3 sets... Roger's game will gracefully fall into pieces... S&V won't work, serve will be slightly off, too much pressure on Federer right now... and we will finally see the effects of having been working without a coach for too long time....and a lot of racket throwing! Anyway, it will give Federer more time to enjoy the jetset life... :devil: I do wonder if certain posters here even know who Hewitt/Federer are naiwen 06-30-2004, 12:18 AM Don't look at statistics. It doesn't make sense. Federer has changed a lot since 2003 Wimbledon and Masters Cup Houston. Hewitt also changed something (including Darren) during these two years. Can anyone tell me why Hewitt lost to Roddick at Queens? Just because of Andy's serves? CarnivalCarnage 06-30-2004, 12:19 AM The ATP doesn't count it though. So it depends which you prefer. Did you read the post? I said the ITF counts it, that makes it an official head to head. What the fuck does it matter what the ATP does in relation to that post? Fedex 06-30-2004, 02:15 AM I do wonder if certain posters here even know who Hewitt/Federer are :haha: :haha: :haha: So, true WyveN.!! I doubt Federer will lose more than 15 games, much less lose in straight sets :) tennisguru 06-30-2004, 03:13 AM Just remember the last match between Hewitt and Federer, where Hewitt seems to be on roll before that foot fault happened in the second set, then Federer showed some best tennis. I think only chance for Hewitt in this match is just hold his own serve, try to push Roger to the tiebreaks and just hope for the best. If Hewitt can take first Federer might make few errors under pressure. But after all these if and buts I think its going to be Roger in three sets. WyveN 06-30-2004, 03:23 AM Just remember the last match between Hewitt and Federer, where Hewitt seems to be on roll before that foot fault happened in the second set, then Federer showed some best tennis. Last time they played Federer won 6-0 6-4. I think Hewitt would have a much better chance at the US Open but I really can't see him beating Roger on grass. vene 06-30-2004, 04:16 AM I think Rogi will bagel him in at least 1 set J. Corwin 06-30-2004, 04:26 AM But, Jackson, dont you want a Federer-Roddick final?? :confused: I'm confident about this match. Andy beat Hewitt easily, and Federer has more weapons than Andy. The one thing I AM worried about, is that the old Federer will show up and choke. That DC match will always linger in my mind when these two play. :o I will never forget it. :mad: I'd love a Fed/Rod final. But I like Hewitt better than Fed, and if Hewitt wins, I won't complain. :) Lisbeth 06-30-2004, 04:34 AM I just hope both guys bring their best game because, at its best, this can be a really interesting match up. And I hope Ancic and Henman play a really, really fast match so I can stay awake for this one ;) Good luck to Hewitt, but if Federer wins then I hope he wins the whole thing :) YoursTruly 06-30-2004, 04:35 AM LET'S GO ROGER!!! Time to quiet down those "c'mons" :lol: Chloe le Bopper 06-30-2004, 04:44 AM I do wonder if certain posters here even know who Hewitt/Federer are :yeah: LCeh 06-30-2004, 04:45 AM Just realized a couple of crazy stats: Roger has won 88 consecutive service games at Wimbledon and 35 straight sets on grass.. I hope Roger continues this insane stats. :yeah: RoddickBabe10 06-30-2004, 04:51 AM I think Hewitt has a shot on beating Fed and he was really confident when he said that he thinks he could beat Fed and he knows it will be a tough match. I do think that Lleyton has a chance on Fed though you know he's been playing really well and is confident. I'm not a very big fan of Fed but he plays awesome tennis and I love how graceful he is on the court but let's not forget every player has a weakness though and if Hewitt tries real hard to find Fed's "weakness" then yay! Go Lleyton! I'd love a Mayer-Roddick Final though... LOL anything can happen... LOL J. Corwin 06-30-2004, 05:06 AM So you like Mayer? lol RoddickBabe10 06-30-2004, 05:11 AM Oh no... i just think it will be an easy match for Andy to win lol I really want him to win Wimbly sooo badly lol and I like Hewitt so if it's a Hewitt-Roddick match I would go nuts lol RoddickBabe10 06-30-2004, 05:12 AM Oh no... i just think it will be an easy match for Andy to win lol I really want him to win Wimbly sooo badly lol and I like Hewitt so if it's a Hewitt-Roddick final match I would go nuts lol Fedex 06-30-2004, 05:22 AM What makes me even more confident that Roger's gonna sweep lleyton off the court is. Potato is know for his passion, his heart and willingless to never give up. Well, now Federer, now shows passion, and heart, and desperatly wants to defend his title. When you have a guy as talented as Federer that has heart, he'll be an unstoppable force, almost impossible to beat. Lalitha 06-30-2004, 05:51 AM Federer should be through in 4 sets. But he just have to work on every point. Lleyton will not make errors that easily. RoddickBabe10 06-30-2004, 05:52 AM What makes me even more confident that Roger's gonna sweep lleyton off the court is. Potato is know for his passion, his heart and willingless to never give up. Well, now Federer, now shows passion, and heart, and desperatly wants to defend his title. When you have a guy as talented as Federer that has heart, he'll be an unstoppable force, almost impossible to beat. I agree with you. But Lleyton also shows passion, and heart. He is also confident and I'm sure this will be a great match. (a five-setter, maybe?) GO LLEYTON!!:yippee: Zetlandsk 06-30-2004, 05:56 AM Federer will win, but he will have to play as well as he has the last two times he met Hewitt, and if he does that, there can only be one winner and it won't be Hewitt. Scotso 06-30-2004, 05:59 AM It's too bad that this has to be the quarterfinal matchup. The two best grass players left in the draw. Most of the other quarterfinals are kinda jokes. Anyway, good luck Lleyton. Lisbeth 06-30-2004, 06:02 AM I think the chances of either of these guys tanking is zero. They will both give it their all - that's just one of the reason why they are two of my favourites! akin 06-30-2004, 06:18 AM It would be nice to see Rogi choke...but we'll see. :devil: WyveN 06-30-2004, 06:46 AM It's too bad that this has to be the quarterfinal matchup. The two best grass players left in the draw. Most of the other quarterfinals are kinda jokes. jokes? Schalken, Grosjean, Henman, Roddick & even Ancic (only in potential) have consistently been the best grass courters over the past few years. Leaves only Mayer and given how little anyone knows about him it is to early to call him a joke. WyveN 06-30-2004, 06:48 AM It would be nice to see Rogi choke...but we'll see. :devil: Personally in just about every tennis match I hope both players play their best tennis, especially in big matches, rather then praying that one of them "chokes". Lalitha 06-30-2004, 08:34 AM ya yes, it will be less exciting after all this hype if one player chokes budikovac 06-30-2004, 09:24 AM Federer will win in straight sets without dropping a serve (maybe just one)! trixy 06-30-2004, 09:57 AM Well I just hope its a great match. I'm not a huge fan of either but seeing Hewitt lose after hearing the shitty commentators go on about Hewitt and that DC semi-final just shits me. So i hope Federer can win but then again im sick of Fed winning..... denim 06-30-2004, 10:21 AM Hewitt might win a set at best but I fancy Roger in 3. Corey Feldman 06-30-2004, 10:52 AM come on fed/hewitt, have a nice long gruelling 5 setter so whoever wins can be shagged out by the time henman plays him in the final ;) :lol: :lol: Space Cowgirl 06-30-2004, 10:56 AM LET'S GO ROGER!!! Time to quiet down those "c'mons" :lol: Yeah, wonder how many times Hewitt is gonna yell "c'mon" in this match :shout: WyveN 06-30-2004, 10:59 AM When they played in Hamburg, Hewitt did his first "Cmon" when he broke Roger's serve while Federer was serving for the match but then Roger proceeded to smack 4 winners past Lleyton to close out the match :lol: Corey Feldman 06-30-2004, 11:00 AM Yeah, wonder how many times Hewitt is gonna yell "c'mon" in this match :shout: yes hewitt is a bit over the top with those yells, i mean he even did it after he won match point v Goran in gorans last moment........little disrespectful bloody mongrel :lol: FanOfHewitt 06-30-2004, 11:17 AM Yeah, wonder how many times Hewitt is gonna yell "c'mon" in this match :shout: Hopefully quite a few times, becuase it will mean he's in there with a fighting chance. Auscon 06-30-2004, 03:22 PM Unbelievable first set from Federer.... Lleyton really needs to pick up his first serve % to even have a chance here Tennis Fool 06-30-2004, 03:24 PM Fed won the first set in his sleep 6/1 Gonzo Hates Me! 06-30-2004, 03:26 PM wow, I cant believe it, 6-1; I mean, I can--but you know, it's unbelievable-- unbelievable stuff he really is superhuman Auscon 06-30-2004, 03:30 PM both guys had only 2 unforced errors in that first set Pretty much came down to Federer serving brilliantly, and Lleyton serving fairly shite and just missed out on another break point opportunity because of an excellent serve play suspended... MagoRG 06-30-2004, 03:31 PM Hopefully quite a few times, becuase it will mean he's in there with a fighting chance. I hope so....but right now the only thing coming out of his mouth is the f word. :) Cīmon Lleyton!!!! Auscon 06-30-2004, 03:33 PM I hope so....but right now the only thing coming out of his mouth is the f word. :) Cīmon Lleyton!!!! heheh Even if Federer manages to blitz him again in this second set, I'll still count Lleyton as a chance but heres hoping it doesnt come to that MagoRG 06-30-2004, 03:38 PM heheh Even if Federer manages to blitz him again in this second set, I'll still count Lleyton as a chance but heres hoping it doesnt come to that sure....remember the DC match...but I think Federer wasnīt playing like this back then pinky 06-30-2004, 03:43 PM The difference between Fed and Hewitt is really much closer than what the first set score would let people think. Fed got quite a few very tough time keeping his serve. I hope the rain stops fast, i want to see the continuation of this game now :P MagoRG 06-30-2004, 03:51 PM Right. Hewitt had a good start but he couldnīt take advantage of the BP (hitting wide a second serve return) in the third game, then he played a lausy fourth game and it was over. FanOfHewitt 06-30-2004, 03:53 PM Federer is winning basically the same percent of points on Hewitt's first and second serve. The only way out for Hewitt is if Federer goes off the boil a bit and Hewitt breaks Federer a couple times to let Federer know that he is not invincible. He is playing with too much confidence at the moment. Alisa 06-30-2004, 03:56 PM can't believe that the score is 6-1.... Hey, Lleyton, u still have a chance!!! Don't give up!!!! http://fbm.ru/LH-ani.gif yanchr 06-30-2004, 04:03 PM Yeah Roger is playing with a hell of confidence now. Even when he was faced with BP, he never stroke me as to let his opponent take the chance. He is just tooooooo calm and composed and can't believe in himself more. CmonAussie 06-30-2004, 04:19 PM @@ Hewitt's 1st Serve %percentage is terrible~~ he can't continue to serve at 40% if he hopes to challenge Federer Express>_<.. I still have faith & this rain delay atleast gives John Newcombe a chance to speak with Rocky Llegs in the Locker Room & tell the gutsy Aussie how to regain the 'eye of the tiger'!!! Auscon 06-30-2004, 04:40 PM a few positive serves towards the end of that game, but its still a shocking percentage gotta change this very quickly Auscon 06-30-2004, 04:46 PM a love game for Lleyton off of second serves not gonna see too much of that |-Safin_Coria-| 06-30-2004, 04:48 PM i was really shocked when i saw the 1st set score...Hewitt seems to be doing better now, i'm not watching the match, only the live scoring....so i dunno! Alisa, nice banner! how do you make those? CmonAussie 06-30-2004, 04:51 PM Hang in there Rocky Mate~~ remember you can beat this freakily skilled magician*! Auscon 06-30-2004, 04:59 PM bloody rain well, better for Lleyton there, but his serve was still bad and Federers was still great So with things the way they are, if Lleyton manages to hold serve, and so does Federer, then I dont like Lleytons chances all too much in the tie, but you never know...especially with Lleyton Socket 06-30-2004, 05:03 PM a love game for Lleyton off of second serves not gonna see too much of that Amazing how he does that, isn't it? Lleyton may have one of the best second serves on the tour. He shouldn't need to hit a second serve as often as he does, but at least it generally functions as a weapon when he has to use it. Auscon 06-30-2004, 05:07 PM Fingers crossed that Lleyton can take this second set If he cant, then its a long way back against such a great player And if he takes it, it'll be the first set Federer will have dropped so far, and coming off such a great first set, it might just play on his mind If we're lucky :) FanOfHewitt 06-30-2004, 05:11 PM Lleyton's hanging in there - helped by some unforced errors by Federer. Lleyton chucked everything he had at Roger's last service game, but couldn't get a break opportunity. MissPovaFan 06-30-2004, 05:23 PM This set will be crucial to Hewitt's chances - I think if he loses it Id back Federer 99% but if Hewitt can win it Id say the match would be 70-30 in Federer's favour. LCeh 06-30-2004, 05:25 PM The rain kind of saved Hewitt. By the looks of things, if there wasn't the first rain break, the set might have probably ended already. But now it's 5-5, and another rain break. Never know what happens after a rain break... Auscon 06-30-2004, 05:31 PM Play set to resume shortly now or never Lleyton! MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:03 PM This is why i love this aussie......heīs got some B- - -S BTW...nice serving from Roger at 5-6 15-40 MissPovaFan 06-30-2004, 06:07 PM 1 set all now :p Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:07 PM AWESOME STUFF LLEYTON! takes the tie 7-1 and your right, those were some awesome serves to get to the tie from Federer Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:08 PM and a break point chance go mate... Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:08 PM once again, Federer with a great crunch serve Tennis Fool 06-30-2004, 06:09 PM Noooooo. The potato took a set from Roger :o Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:10 PM THAT WAS IN! YOU BASTARDS! MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:10 PM NOOO....that call!!! MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:12 PM Cīmon Lleyton.........get a break NOW |-Safin_Coria-| 06-30-2004, 06:12 PM go lleyton! Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:13 PM good to push federer in his first service game now federer needs to not push lleyton :) MissPovaFan 06-30-2004, 06:17 PM Hewitt just saved a break point on his serve. Back to Deuce. First serves for Hewitt is 38%! Advantage Hewitt as I write. Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:17 PM holy cow, now thats a bad double fault Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:19 PM now theres a kick in the guts Federer breaks on an incredible point MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:20 PM Did you see that double fault? Oh nooo....what a rally just now!! Damn call...Federer was hitting it from out the court. MissPovaFan 06-30-2004, 06:21 PM That was apparently Federer's first drop shot of this years championships LOL. As I write its now 40-15 on Federer's serve. MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:21 PM Sorry for the echo!! Tennis Fool 06-30-2004, 06:22 PM I have a taste for a bagel :lick: |-Safin_Coria-| 06-30-2004, 06:22 PM ouch...38% first serve?!? thats harsh.. Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:23 PM he holds with ease This sets rapidly getting out of reach MissPovaFan 06-30-2004, 06:25 PM Double break for Federer! 4-0 Federer, Federer Serving. MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:25 PM This is the first set going all over again...CRAP!! Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:25 PM that was terrible wheres the rain? :) |-Safin_Coria-| 06-30-2004, 06:26 PM i think the rain kicked in, its suspended again Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:26 PM 17 aces to 1 and 3 and a half in a row just about completes Lleytons mauling in this 3rd set Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:28 PM i think the rain kicked in, its suspended again dont know about that but I know Lleytons sure suspended somewhere..... MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:28 PM Avoid the bagel Lleyton!! MissPovaFan 06-30-2004, 06:28 PM O Dear Hewitt is now 0-30 on his serve. Tennis Fool 06-30-2004, 06:29 PM Anyone who is watching, two q's: 1) Who got a bad call and when? Was it an important call? 2) What happened to Lleyton's return game in the 3rd? MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:30 PM 17 aces to 1 and 3 and a half in a row just about completes Lleytons mauling in this 3rd set Thatīs the only diffrence between them today....SERVE Port_Power 06-30-2004, 06:30 PM COME ON ROCKY!!!!! not all is lost yet!!! Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:30 PM what a bloody horrible set of tennis from Lleyton Auscon 06-30-2004, 06:32 PM Anyone who is watching, two q's: 1) Who got a bad call and when? Was it an important call? 2) What happened to Lleyton's return game in the 3rd? 1) Break point on federers serve in his opening service game of the 3rd, hewitts winning shot was in but was called out 2) cant remember...that whole set was a blur to me....probably the same thing that happened to it in almost every game in that set...it turned to pieces...and some of the time it didnt even get a chance with one brilliant serve after another MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:33 PM Oh Oh...whatīs wrong with Lleyton? Hope itīs nothing serious Port_Power 06-30-2004, 06:33 PM OMG he is injured.. damn it..he needs his wheels |-Safin_Coria-| 06-30-2004, 06:35 PM :eek: whats going on? MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:36 PM Hes got the best pair of legs on the tour...only Coriaīs come close Carito_90 06-30-2004, 06:37 PM Double BP Lleyton! :banana: MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:38 PM He canīt keep forgiving Federer on BP Carito_90 06-30-2004, 06:39 PM Game federer damn it 1-0 Port_Power 06-30-2004, 06:41 PM Hewitt is having his fair share of chances... i hope he converts a friggin break point soon Carito_90 06-30-2004, 06:43 PM Deuce COME ON LLEYTON! MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:43 PM I guess it wasnīt serious..He might have called the trainer to get a massage while Roger was at the bathroom :) :) MissPovaFan 06-30-2004, 06:43 PM Yep he certainly needs to convert some soon! Maybe he will have a chance here as hes got Federer to 40-30 Carito_90 06-30-2004, 06:44 PM 2-1 ack Tennis Fool 06-30-2004, 06:44 PM Nope. Havok 06-30-2004, 06:47 PM Wow you know the mods dont give a crap about this site when a whole live scoring thread is happening. Carry along it doesn't really matter anyways, I don't know why people go nuts over live scores in the GM at wtaworld anyways. and what a weird scoreline, I think both players are good enough for it NOT to resemble a wta match MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:54 PM OMG....Hewitt is playing great from the baseline. Too bad Federer is serving great when he needs to. MissPovaFan 06-30-2004, 06:55 PM 3-3 now with Federer serving. 0-30 on the Federer serve! MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:56 PM 15-40. Here it comes again. MagoRG 06-30-2004, 06:57 PM Cīmon!!!!! First break for Lleyton Havok 06-30-2004, 06:59 PM Federer gets broken in god kows how long :scared: what if this does go to 5 sets, then Mal (:retard: ) will actually be correct MissPovaFan 06-30-2004, 07:03 PM Hewitt messed it up by not consolodating and got broken back to 30. 15-15 on the Federer serve now. MagoRG 06-30-2004, 07:05 PM Nice forehand passing shot from the aussie to get a BP. Guess what? Ace. Itps deuce. Tennis Fool 06-30-2004, 07:09 PM Hewitt to serve to stay in the match. Fed got broken??? I was in the shower. That's the first time since Qtrs of last year :scared: MagoRG 06-30-2004, 07:11 PM Match point. Tennis Fool 06-30-2004, 07:11 PM Mp alita 06-30-2004, 07:11 PM The match make me choke. I'm watching...it's very hard for me...Lleyton... I feel Lleyton is tired, I don't know, I'm worring... MissPovaFan 06-30-2004, 07:11 PM and Federer wins! On a double fault! Gonzalo81 06-30-2004, 07:12 PM Game, set and match Mr. Federer Tennis Fool 06-30-2004, 07:12 PM Fed wins 6/1 6/7 (1) 6/0 6/4 What a weird looking scoreline. I guess whenever Hewitt tried to step it up, Fed raised his game to godlike levels How :scared: Havok 06-30-2004, 07:13 PM At WImbledon, yes the last time was the QF at last year's Wimbledon, but I was told that he was broken during an early round match at Halle. And as I type, pathetic Hewitt can't even hold his damn serve to get to 5 all in the 4th set:haha: Nice test for Roger, was the first time he lost a set and was broken, but that lapse of concentration in the 2nd set after he steamrolled in the first is a bit weird. You normaly see retarded one sided sets followed by the tight loss of the next set in wta matches. MagoRG 06-30-2004, 07:13 PM Arrrrg. I "hate" this guys who can rely on their serve to get them outta trouble every single time. Havok 06-30-2004, 07:15 PM so did Lleyton really DF on matchpoint? he did the exact same thing when Roddick beat him at Queens :o Shows that he lacks faith and belief in himself to beat the top players. Deboogle!. 06-30-2004, 07:15 PM Yea Naldo he did..... so much for him being the mentally toughest player on tour? oh well, too bad Lleyton... Gonzalo81 06-30-2004, 07:15 PM Agreed logi ;) MagoRG 06-30-2004, 07:18 PM so did Lleyton really DF on matchpoint? he did the exact same thing when Roddick beat him at Queens :o Shows that he lacks faith and belief in himself to beat the top players. He actually DF 2 or 3 times to get broken. Havok 06-30-2004, 07:19 PM Ack, where has his strong mental side gone :bolt: Auscon 06-30-2004, 07:20 PM Even though he's the only player so far in the tourny to have taken a set off of roger, and to have broken his serve, those 2 sets of 6-16-0 pretty much overshadow it Too bad anyone who didnt see the match will have no idea as to how many times things couldve gone either way.....but in many ways it never really had a chance to, with Federer coming up with the big first serve on nearly every break point opportunity Lleyton had It was an insanely exciting match, but alot of the time, for all the wrong reasons |-Safin_Coria-| 06-30-2004, 07:20 PM aw man, what a horrible way to end it! Auscon 06-30-2004, 07:21 PM Yeah, the double faults on crucial points, the implosions every now and then It wasnt a pretty loss for Lleyton kim-fan 06-30-2004, 07:22 PM this sucks so much! why is federer so good???? :( Tennis Fool 06-30-2004, 07:24 PM Welcome back Pete :lol: It came down to this, Fed played the big points better. Tennis Fool 06-30-2004, 07:25 PM Uhhh...Wimbledon site is calling this a Classic :scared: Havok 06-30-2004, 07:28 PM :haha: how is this a classic? it doesn't fit the term in any shape or form :scared: Auscon 06-30-2004, 07:30 PM Welcome back Pete :lol: It came down to this, Fed played the big points better. yep....he was mr clutch Auscon 06-30-2004, 07:32 PM Uhhh...Wimbledon site is calling this a Classic :scared: Well, there were plenty brilliant exchanges It was a heck of a rollercoaster ride but a classic should be one that shows up on the scoreboard....and not just for 1 set FanOfHewitt 06-30-2004, 07:38 PM Federer showed Sampras-like qualities on the big points on his serve. Whenever Lleyton got a break point or a duece Federer just came up with a great serve to keep him out of it. Too good. And Federer was all over Lleyton's serve for the majority of the match. Must have been seeing the tennis balls like footballs after having to deal with Karlovic's serves. Auscon 06-30-2004, 07:41 PM Federer showed Sampras-like qualities on the big points on his serve. Whenever Lleyton got a break point or a duece Federer just came up with a great serve to keep him out of it. Too good. And Federer was all over Lleyton's serve for the majority of the match. Must have been seeing the tennis balls like footballs after having to deal with Karlovic's serves. yeah, and didnt have to reach to the sky to catch them on the bounce either :) Lleyton had a few really good service games...especially in the 4th...blew past Federer in those....but just couldnt do it when it really counted WyveN 06-30-2004, 07:52 PM Most impressive thing from Federer was how he would steamroll Lleyton as soon as he would get a sniff in the match Just about all the break points were saved by Federer, and not all of them with good serves while Hewitt would double fault on a few break points, I guess that just shows Federer has taken over with the Champions mentality. Pretty fun match, not many errors at all and a lot of exciting points, but the rain delays ruined any sort of continuity. Hewitt gave it all he had and played a very good match but Federer was a bit better in the end. RogiFan88 06-30-2004, 07:53 PM a pretty loss?? what loss is pretty? anyway, Lleyt has lost so much confidence altho he's trying hard to come back and has done well [better than Maratski] but looks like Rogi is now turning the tables on him Rogi didn't win easily but then LLeyt always pushes him; nice to see another bagel for Rog tho -- but losing the TB so badly was not nice at all... yikes! ROgi won and that's what counts, so onto the SF v. Seb?? did he finish his match today?? little duck 06-30-2004, 07:54 PM Fed was majestic in the first set - some games were among the most beautifully worked out points I ever saw - and in other sets he served exactly like Sampras! RogiFan88 06-30-2004, 07:55 PM haven't checked the stats but Rogi must not have been serving that well today and it LOOKED like he made quite a few UEs fr the commentary CmonAussie 06-30-2004, 08:07 PM @@ Federer is simply too good for Hewitt at the moment {especially on Grass}!! However the match was closer than the scoreline(games) would suggest>_<... Hewitt~ Break Points Won = 1/11 (9%); Federer~ Break Points Won = 7/14 (50%) Total Points Won = 104 Total Points Won = 123 *#* Still very disappointing for Rocky Llegs to give up his break so meekly in the 4th set; particularly sad when he double-faulted twice to give Roger the break-back & the match in consecutive service games >_<... Poor Lleyton he fights so hard but the confidence is not what it used to be**! J. Corwin 06-30-2004, 08:30 PM "At least" Lleyton was able to break the Federer serve. :scared: :retard: Lisbeth 07-01-2004, 12:08 AM Well done Roger! What a classy player he is. And congratulations to Lleyton too on a great week of tennis and putting up a good fight. Just as well all tennis matches are not that good or I would never get to sleep at this time of year ;) star 07-01-2004, 12:21 AM @@ Federer is simply too good for Hewitt at the moment {especially on Grass}!! However the match was closer than the scoreline(games) would suggest>_<... Hewitt~ Break Points Won = 1/11 (9%); Federer~ Break Points Won = 7/14 (50%) Total Points Won = 104 Total Points Won = 123 *#* Still very disappointing for Rocky Llegs to give up his break so meekly in the 4th set; particularly sad when he double-faulted twice to give Roger the break-back & the match in consecutive service games >_<... Poor Lleyton he fights so hard but the confidence is not what it used to be**! Yeah. He said his quad injury contributed to his poor serving. CarnivalCarnage 07-01-2004, 12:27 AM You know what blew? Coverage stopped at ten o'clock at 6-1 5-6 Federer for some reason. Then I went to bed. Looks like Lleyton tried hard, and he managed a set. A good effort, I think. The Fed-Roddick final looks more and more likely ... ŋesquímaux? 07-01-2004, 01:15 AM Federer has an unbelievable ground game. It's truly astonishing to see him play. Fedex 07-01-2004, 01:21 AM Well, done to Hewitt for making this a closer match. I mean Federer could of won 6-1, 7-6, 6-0, but fell apart in the breaker, letting Hewitt get that set. So Lleyton has been bageled by Roger in the last 3 matches they've played That could of been two bagels today too. :eek: But it certainly wasnt a classic. Alot of good points though. Still Lleyton won only 12 games in 4 sets, lost serve 7 times, and only won 5 games in sets 1,3, & 4. I did want Roger to keep that serve streak going though ;) Roger made this closer than he needed to, but still was pretty awesome at times. While he had 19 aces and 0 doubles, his serve % was crap compared to his other 4 matches, which i think is part of why Hewitt did manage to break his serve. Billabong 07-01-2004, 02:28 AM Fed :woohoo:!!! Now keep it up and continue the great work:D!!! Lleyton, good effort :yeah:! lizabeth..* 07-01-2004, 02:31 AM Does this mean Channel 9 is going to stop coverage in Australia now?! :lol: Poor guys, they have nothing left to talk about! :rolleyes: Great win Roger....he played very well indeed!! My dream would be a Rogi Fed v Mario final now, but I'm not going to get my hopes up! lol chris whiteside 07-01-2004, 06:02 AM I'm not anti-Australian, I admire Phillippoussis but I just cannot stick Hewitt and it really cheered me up yesterday to see him lose especially to see the sick look on his face when it was on a double fault. As the two players I just didn't want to win the Championships were Hewitt and Capriati it was a great day even though Henman lost, but he deserved to - he was dire. However, being objective I would have to say that I don't think any player other than Federer would have beaten Hewitt yesterday. It was a great tennis match and it is looking increasingly likely that Federer is becoming invincible. However, I don't think it would be good for the game were one player to dominate. CmonAussie 07-01-2004, 06:10 AM I'm not anti-Australian, I admire Phillippoussis but I just cannot stick Hewitt and it really cheered me up yesterday to see him lose especially to see the sick look on his face when it was on a double fault. As the two players I just didn't want to win the Championships were Hewitt and Capriati it was a great day even though Henman lost, but he deserved to - he was dire. However, being objective I would have to say that I don't think any player other than Federer would have beaten Hewitt yesterday. It was a great tennis match and it is looking increasingly likely that Federer is becoming invincible. However, I don't think it would be good for the game were one player to dominate. :rolleyes: :sad: Nationalities aside-->> how can you "admire Philippoussis but...cannot stick Hewitt..."? :eek: :confused: ! In terms of Talent{Weapons} vs Effort{pure guts} & positive attituded Rocky Llegs Hewitt is light-years ahead of his fellow countryman :angel:. Of course I like both players & feel sorry for Scud that he hasn't won a Slam considering his chances over the years BUT Hewitt continuely puts everything on the line & prepares himself as much as possible for the big matches~~ you could see he gave all he had against Federer but was just outclassed this time. @@ Anyway you're welcome to your opinions though I fail to see how anyone can respect Mark P Scud Dud more than Passionate Lleyton 'eye-of-the-tiger' Hewitt :worship: :worship: ! WyveN 07-01-2004, 07:24 AM @@ Anyway you're welcome to your opinions though I fail to see how anyone can respect Mark P Scud Dud more than Passionate Lleyton 'eye-of-the-tiger' Hewitt :worship: :worship: ! Did you see when Hewitt got broken for the first time in the first set? Federer hit a return winner that landed right on the baseline (hawkeye showed it), Hewitt left it yet complained it was the wrong call to the line judge/umpire. Hewitt was right above that and he knew perfectly well that ball was in yet to look around as if he had been robbed was a perfect example of why a lot of people dislike him. tennisvideos 07-01-2004, 07:50 AM Did you see when Hewitt got broken for the first time in the first set? Federer hit a return winner that landed right on the baseline (hawkeye showed it), Hewitt left it yet complained it was the wrong call to the line judge/umpire. Hewitt was right above that and he knew perfectly well that ball was in yet to look around as if he had been robbed was a perfect example of why a lot of people dislike him. Heaps of players question calls and Lleyton did it once during the match. Big friggen deal. How would you cope under the spotlight and pressure of international tennis with so much at stake????? I don't think any of us armchair critics have the right to be so judgemental. Yes, people are entitled to disklike Lleyton, or whoever they choose.... but to cite such a trivial example just shows how shallow human beings can be. jeanie_sin 07-01-2004, 08:53 AM it's precisely because you all hate hewitt that much that u have to observe him so closely and jump on every error that he makes, trying to make him look bad Lisbeth 07-01-2004, 10:22 AM If you hated every player who ever challenged a line call, your tennis watching would be pretty much limited to watching repeats of Rafter v Sampras. Maybe the odd match between Swedes too, but you'd have to edit them carefully! Lisbeth 07-01-2004, 10:29 AM Most impressive thing from Federer was how he would steamroll Lleyton as soon as he would get a sniff in the match Just about all the break points were saved by Federer, and not all of them with good serves while Hewitt would double fault on a few break points, I guess that just shows Federer has taken over with the Champions mentality. Pretty fun match, not many errors at all and a lot of exciting points, but the rain delays ruined any sort of continuity. Hewitt gave it all he had and played a very good match but Federer was a bit better in the end. Yep, that's about the story. Federer won the big points. Also, Hewitt just double faulted too much full stop (not just on break points ;) ) but generally I think they both played very well. Don't know about "classic" though, maybe it was written by one of those newish fans who think every tournament is either the best or the worst in the entire history of tennis! WyveN 07-01-2004, 10:31 AM He challenged a line call that he had a great view on and knew perfectly well that it was the correct call, I don't know many players who do that. Lisbeth 07-01-2004, 10:40 AM I missed that, but if that's how you saw it then I understand why you feel that way. However, I prefer not to assume what players know or don't know since I am not out in the heat of the match and I don't see that ball through their eyes. I've seen players who I think are fabulous good sports challege lined I thought were very clearly in but I don't know what they saw or didn't see so it doesn't affect my view of them. But if you're sure you know what Lleyton knew then you're just sure I guess, and I don't remember the incident so I won't argue. BTW, I don't have a problem at all with people not liking Lleyton (I have my own reasons for being a big fan of his which do no just relate to what he gets up to on a tennis court, even though what he does get up to only bothers me sometimes). I do like even across the board standards applied (and I'm not accusing you of not doing that, particularly now that I understand your explanation as you see it). Lisbeth 07-01-2004, 10:44 AM Does this mean Channel 9 is going to stop coverage in Australia now?! :lol: Poor guys, they have nothing left to talk about! :rolleyes: Great win Roger....he played very well indeed!! My dream would be a Rogi Fed v Mario final now, but I'm not going to get my hopes up! lol They'll probably just show Woodbridge/Molik and Woodbridge/Bjorkman matches ... and don't forget they have reminiscings of 20 years of their own matches to bore us with ;) I love watching Roger play anybody so I hope we do still get full coverage - we probably will. WyveN 07-01-2004, 10:55 AM I do like even across the board standards applied (and I'm not accusing you of not doing that, particularly now that I understand your explanation as you see it). It was in the first game that Hewitt serve got broken in the first set on break point, Hewitt served, Federer hit a return that Lleyton left and hoped would go out (he was right over the top of it) and when no call came he looked around like he had been robbed and had a few words to the umpire. Hawkeye showed the ball well in. Someone else might see nothing wrong with that and thats fine but I do so I guess we are all entitled to our opinions. CmonAussie 07-01-2004, 11:52 AM Did you see when Hewitt got broken for the first time in the first set? Federer hit a return winner that landed right on the baseline (hawkeye showed it), Hewitt left it yet complained it was the wrong call to the line judge/umpire. Hewitt was right above that and he knew perfectly well that ball was in yet to look around as if he had been robbed was a perfect example of why a lot of people dislike him. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :sad: :sad: @@ From this post I lose a lot of respect for you WyveN :o ! --->>> Do you really believe the crap you write :confused: ? If you want to talk about line calls; then what about the line call which Hawk-eye showed clearly in at 30-40 on Federer's serve 1st Game of the 3rd set :sad: ! Lleyton hit the winner perfectly on the line & under the Umpire's chair; which Roger had no chance of getting a racket to & would have given Hewitt a decisive break there, the call was overruled by the Umpire but he made it a "replay point" :eek: ,even though Lleyton's winner was clearly not going to be returned by Roger... :rolleyes: A similar bad call happened to Hewitt at a decisive stage of Roger/Lleyton's Rd4 match at AO this year{when Lleyton was a set up & 3-3 (40-30) in the 2nd set}~ that was a "foot fault" which the camera showed clearly incorrect... Both those bad calls were huge momentum swingers in the matches between Hewitt/Federer~~ in neither case did Lleyton complain nor make any excuses for losing, he didn't protest either of them though many players would have!! :cool: :cool: Rocky Llegs is a class act; the only thing time he lost his cool was when he dropped the "F-word" once~ shouting at himself in frustration due to his failure to capitalise on the several 'break-points' he had! :devil: You are very annoyingly self-righteous & proud of yourself WyveN; when will you show a little class & maturity :confused: ! Auscon 07-01-2004, 12:23 PM Does this mean Channel 9 is going to stop coverage in Australia now?! :lol: Poor guys, they have nothing left to talk about! :rolleyes: far from it :) definitely crushed to lose Mark and Lleyton....first time in 4 years there wont be an Aussie in the wimbledon singles final, But we've got an aussie guaranteed in the mens doubles final (Jonas and Todd play against Wayne Arthurs and Paul Hanley in the semis) And we've got an almost guaranteed spot in the mixed doubles semi with 4 aussies spread across 3 teams...unfortunately all 3 of those teams are in the same part of the draw, so at best only 1 team will get through to the semi's And Rennae Stubbs is into the semi finals of the womens doubles CmonAussie 07-01-2004, 12:31 PM far from it :) definitely crushed to lose Mark and Lleyton....first time in 4 years there wont be an Aussie in the wimbledon singles final, But we've got an aussie guaranteed in the mens doubles final (Jonas and Todd play against Wayne Arthurs and Paul Hanley in the semis) And we've got an almost guaranteed spot in the mixed doubles semi with 4 aussies spread across 3 teams...unfortunately all 3 of those teams are in the same part of the draw, so at best only 1 team will get through to the semi's And Rennae Stubbs is into the semi finals of the womens doubles :wavey: :cool: Yeah Cmon Aussie Cmon Cmon... Cmon Wayno Cmon Cmon... Wayne Arthurs time has finally arrived~ just 2-matches from holding a Slam Trophy, of course it's going to be shared with Hanley but lets face it Arthurs is at the end of the line in his career & this would be a highlight of his career if he can nab the Wimbledon Doubles crown :angel: ; the other highlight being his win with Woodbridge to help AUS claim Davis Cup last year :worship: :worship: Auscon 07-01-2004, 12:36 PM :wavey: :cool: the other highlight being his win with Woodbridge to help AUS claim Davis Cup last year :worship: :worship: Yeah, they were great in that match WyveN 07-01-2004, 12:39 PM :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :sad: :sad: @@ From this post I lose a lot of respect for you WyveN :o ! --->>> Do you really believe the crap you write :confused: ? If you want to talk about line calls; then what about the line call which Hawk-eye showed clearly in at 30-40 on Federer's serve 1st Game of the 3rd set :sad: ! Lleyton hit the winner perfectly on the line & under the Umpire's chair; which Roger had no chance of getting a racket to & would have given Hewitt a decisive break there, the call was overruled by the Umpire but he made it a "replay point" :eek: ,even though Lleyton's winner was clearly not going to be returned by Roger... :rolleyes: A similar bad call happened to Hewitt at a decisive stage of Roger/Lleyton's Rd4 match at AO this year{when Lleyton was a set up & 3-3 (40-30) in the 2nd set}~ that was a "foot fault" which the camera showed clearly incorrect... Both those bad calls were huge momentum swingers in the matches between Hewitt/Federer~~ in neither case did Lleyton complain nor make any excuses for losing, he didn't protest either of them though many players would have!! :cool: :cool: Rocky Llegs is a class act; the only thing time he lost his cool was when he dropped the "F-word" once~ shouting at himself in frustration due to his failure to capitalise on the several 'break-points' he had! :devil: You are very annoyingly self-righteous & proud of yourself WyveN; when will you show a little class & maturity :confused: ! What has any of this got to do with Lleyton questioning a line call that he knew was in? You sound as biased as Newk. Crazy_Fool 07-01-2004, 12:52 PM C'mon Aussie - WyveN dislikes Hewitt, any little thing he does that maybe wrong, he critisces. Its because of people like him that I love Lleyton more actually. Come On by Lleyton is one of my favourite things in the tennis world!! You have to love him for it. I don't spend my whole time posting things about Federer, Roddick or anyone else I dislike, but some people enjoy it. tennisvideos 07-01-2004, 01:53 PM What has any of this got to do with Lleyton questioning a line call that he knew was in? You sound as biased as Newk. Dear WyveN I have myself in the heat of battle thought a ball that I was right next to was out, only to be told by my partner that it was in. So guess what - it does happen. When someone questions a call it's usually because they thought it went against them - doesn't mean they are right, but they think they are. And what is so wrong with that. It's only when it happens constantly that it can be annoying. Anyway, time to move on. You don't like Hewitt and that's cool. There are some players that I am not keen on but I won't go beating up on them for trying to survive in the cut throat heat of battle. I know what it's like at my own tennis level - which, incidently, gets very intense :) WyveN 07-02-2004, 03:44 AM C'mon Aussie - WyveN dislikes Hewitt, any little thing he does that maybe wrong, he critisces. Find me where I have criticised Hewitt's "racial" controversy or any of the other incidents involving him such as him calling umpires spastics. CmonAussie asked why some people don't like Hewitt, I replied, 3 different people yesterday told me what Lleyton did was "unaustralian". WyveN 07-02-2004, 03:45 AM Dear WyveN I have myself in the heat of battle thought a ball that I was right next to was out, only to be told by my partner that it was in. So guess what - it does happen. When someone questions a call it's usually because they thought it went against them - doesn't mean they are right, but they think they are. And what is so wrong with that. It's only when it happens constantly that it can be annoying. You have your opinion, I have mine. Anyway, time to move on. You don't like Hewitt and that's cool. There are some players that I am not keen on but I won't go beating up on them for trying to survive in the cut throat heat of battle. I don't beat up on Hewitt, CmonAussie asked a question, I replied. Experimentee 07-02-2004, 08:36 AM :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek: :eek: :sad: :sad: @@ From this post I lose a lot of respect for you WyveN :o ! --->>> Do you really believe the crap you write :confused: ? If you want to talk about line calls; then what about the line call which Hawk-eye showed clearly in at 30-40 on Federer's serve 1st Game of the 3rd set :sad: ! Lleyton hit the winner perfectly on the line & under the Umpire's chair; which Roger had no chance of getting a racket to & would have given Hewitt a decisive break there, the call was overruled by the Umpire but he made it a "replay point" :eek: ,even though Lleyton's winner was clearly not going to be returned by Roger... :rolleyes: A similar bad call happened to Hewitt at a decisive stage of Roger/Lleyton's Rd4 match at AO this year{when Lleyton was a set up & 3-3 (40-30) in the 2nd set}~ that was a "foot fault" which the camera showed clearly incorrect... Both those bad calls were huge momentum swingers in the matches between Hewitt/Federer~~ in neither case did Lleyton complain nor make any excuses for losing, he didn't protest either of them though many players would have!! :cool: :cool: Rocky Llegs is a class act; the only thing time he lost his cool was when he dropped the "F-word" once~ shouting at himself in frustration due to his failure to capitalise on the several 'break-points' he had! :devil: You are very annoyingly self-righteous & proud of yourself WyveN; when will you show a little class & maturity :confused: ! I didnt like how Hewitt yelled out the F word when Roger hit a great forehand winner down a line. I didnt think that was classy at all. You might not have a problem with his behaviour, but surely you can see how it annoys a lot of people. WyveN 07-02-2004, 09:56 AM I don't have a problem with Hewitt yelling "F***" at the end of the game, he was frustrated because he just couldn't break the Roger serve despite a lot of opportunities. But what he did with that line call seemed like outright cheating to me, the ball was well in and he was right on top of it. Lalitha 07-02-2004, 10:14 AM I didnt like how Hewitt yelled out the F word when Roger hit a great forehand winner down a line. I didnt think that was classy at all. You might not have a problem with his behaviour, but surely you can see how it annoys a lot of people. Yes, it defenitely annoys. Come on, Come on is okay but such things can murmured to himself. BaselineSmash 07-02-2004, 02:22 PM Hewitt has himself to blame for not holding serve in the fourth against the Fedman. He never used to miss sitters at the net... Port_Power 07-02-2004, 06:01 PM Is it the first time you are seeing players disputing a line call that was clearly in? i have seen many such instances where players like agassi, scud, schuettler (to name a few)dispute line calls which are clearly out. Doesnt mean they are cheating hey? I like c'mon, and it doesnt matter if any of you guys dont like it, you are entitled to your choices and for the F word, he didnt direct it to someone else, it came outta frustration and directed to himself. And yes i agree, hewitt has himself to blame, he atleast should have taken federer to a 5th set. WyveN 07-02-2004, 06:39 PM Is it the first time you are seeing players disputing a line call that was clearly in? No doesn't mean I have to approve it. And yes i agree, hewitt has himself to blame, he atleast should have taken federer to a 5th set. he choked on those double faults, sort of like Port Adelaide year after year Port_Power 07-02-2004, 06:44 PM No doesn't mean I have to approve it. Thats your opinion, but in the heat of the moment it can happen he choked on those double faults, sort of like Port Adelaide year after year Which team you go for? Port_Power 07-02-2004, 06:51 PM oops sorry for messing up my last post.. i wanted to say.. which club do you go for? And hewitt didnt choke, he just doesnt play the big points as well as he used to do now. And secondly Port Power Rules, we will be premiers in 04 Auscon 07-03-2004, 06:40 AM Yes, it defenitely annoys. Come on, Come on is okay but such things can murmured to himself. Federer does it too you know | |