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Monte Carlo: The Dirt Return

Johnny Groove
04-08-2008, 12:11 AM
Clay season is back :wavey:

raven gypsy
04-08-2008, 12:18 AM
Couldn't have happened any sooner :dance:

nashty
04-08-2008, 12:42 AM
Finally.

I hope he manages to defend all his points (or better win them all :D) despite the :mad: schedule.

veyonce
04-08-2008, 02:08 AM
I agree.. He is closer to No. 1 spot!!!! Vamos Rafa!!!!

The Pro
04-08-2008, 03:37 PM
Phew!

Is it poor form to hope that Novak has a really shitty run on clay this season? :confused:

Because I do. :devil:

Xristos
04-08-2008, 05:29 PM
Vamoooos Rafa!

elessar
04-09-2008, 08:25 AM
Phew!

Is it poor form to hope that Novak has a really shitty run on clay this season? :confused:

Because I do. :devil:
Absolutely not :hug:

neenah
04-09-2008, 11:36 PM
Vamos Rafa. :D

tangerine_dream
04-11-2008, 05:50 PM
Dirt is for 4-wheeling. :D

http://i15.tinypic.com/2roqses.jpg

raven gypsy
04-12-2008, 03:08 PM
Dirt is for 4-wheeling. :D


:rolls:

You're just saying that because if Spain and US advance they gonna play on 4 inches of clay, no? ;)

Aenea
04-18-2008, 08:32 PM
MC is starting in 2 days. No MIT anymore? :sobbing: Is it over? Or nobody doubts the outcome therefore no use for MIT during clay season?

l_mac
04-19-2008, 12:27 PM
The Draw

[1]R. Federer vs BYE
Q vs G. Simon
G. Monfils vs F. Verdasco
S. Grosjean vs [15]I. Karlovic

[12]T. Robredo vs S. Wawrinka
R. Stepanek vs R. Soderling
T. Haas vs Q
Bye vs [6]D. Nalbandian[6]


[3]N. Djokovic vs Bye
G. Keurten vs I. Ljubicic
N. Mahut vs F. Volandri
F. Lopez vs [14]]A. Murray

[10]C. Moya vs S. Querrey
A. Calleri vs A. Seppi
F. Santoro vs Q
Bye vs [7]R. Gasquet



[8]M. Youzhny vs Bye
I. Andreev vs D. Tursunov
N. Almagro vs J-R. Lisnard
H-T. Lee vs [11]J. Monaco

[16]P. Kohlschreiber vs J. Acasuso
M. Cilic vs N. Kiefer
J-I. Chela vs Q
Bye vs [4]N. Davydenko


[5]D. Ferrer vs Bye
M. Safin vs X. Malisse
Q vs P. Starace
J. Tipsarevic vs [9]P-H. Mathieu

[13]JC. Ferrero vs M. LLodra
J. Niemenen vs Q
Q vs M. Ancic
Bye vs [2]R. Nadal

Xoman
04-19-2008, 05:44 PM
MC is starting in 2 days. No MIT anymore? :sobbing: Is it over? Or nobody doubts the outcome therefore no use for MIT during clay season?

yeah, where is the MIT? well in case it goes ahead, put me down for Nadal to win ... Which is obvious considering Nadal has won 107 matches out of 110 in the past 3 seasons on clay.

Regarding the draw ... Nice one: Djokovic on Federer's side je je :)

l_mac
04-19-2008, 06:51 PM
Metis has been AWOL. But she is back now :rocker2:

Put me down for SF.

The draw is ridiculously bottom heavy. Davydenko's quarter is pretty tough, and Ferrer is probably the hardest QF opponent Rafa could have drawn. Nole's quarter is a cakewalk, unless Murray shows some clay form.

Johnny Groove
04-19-2008, 07:08 PM
Easy win for Nadal.

He wont drop a set

Getta
04-19-2008, 07:22 PM
Easy win for Nadal.

He wont drop a set

Yes, I believe so. Vamos Rafa! :rocker2:


The draw is ridiculously bottom heavy. Davydenko's quarter is pretty tough, and Ferrer is probably the hardest QF opponent Rafa could have drawn. Nole's quarter is a cakewalk, unless Murray shows some clay form.

Oh well. I have to disagree here. If we were objective, we should easily admit that the heaviest quarter of the draw is the first one. In particular, the second 1/8 makes all the difference: Robredo, Wawrinka, Soderling, Stepanek and Nalbandian. :eek:

Aenea
04-19-2008, 09:01 PM
Now is not the right time to start questioning Rafa's ability winning on clay. No draw should be tough for him.

Metis put me down for Champion. :bigclap:

Vamos :rocker2:

Metis
04-19-2008, 10:58 PM
OK, OK, I'm here :lol:

And just so that this competition makes sense during the clay season (i.e. not everyone is a winner) I pick SF like Linda. :p




How far will Rafa go in Monte Carlo?

1st – (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF -
SF - l_mac, Metis
F – wildegirl05
W- Xoman, Blaze-2004, Getta, tennischeto, hra87






Reminder: current standings in the Metis Invitational Trophy competition after IW and Miami:


cmurray _________ 100
raven_gypsy______ 100
MariaV___________100
Tnn74 ___________100
GuiroNl__________ 100
tangerine_dream___100
Xoman___________100
nashty___________100


:lol:

wildegirl05
04-19-2008, 11:23 PM
last time i picked semis and he made final, so to check if the pattern holds i'm picking finals :lol:

l_mac
04-19-2008, 11:35 PM
Yes, I believe so. Vamos Rafa! :rocker2:



Oh well. I have to disagree here. If we were objective, we should easily admit that the heaviest quarter of the draw is the first one. In particular, the second 1/8 makes all the difference: Robredo, Wawrinka, Soderling, Stepanek and Nalbandian. :eek:

Yeah, I still disagree. Clay is far from Nalby, Stepanek and Sod's favourite surface and, other than Nalby, none are big tournament players.

Compare that to Davydenko's quarter - Davy, Almagro, Monaco, Andreev, Chela, Acasuso.

hra87
04-20-2008, 12:54 AM
Rafa - W.

I feel bad for Monaco and Almagro.

Overall, fairly evenly distributed draw, I think.

Rafa's is pretty tough, though: Ancic, Ferrero, Ferrer, Davydenko, Nalbandian/Djokovic/Federer is a possibility.

Hopefully Kuerten can get past ljubicic so he can get destroyed 2nd round.

Of the 4 seeds, Djokovic has the easiest draw.

But all in all, I still think it's pretty even.

the_natural
04-20-2008, 08:32 AM
Couldn't have happened any sooner :dance:

Wasnt it actually pushed back a bit or something for some american college basketball thing?

the_natural
04-20-2008, 08:34 AM
I think rafa may have a bit of a tough time here cos hes got to get past davydenko if the seeds work out, and we know how much trouble he is

nashty
04-20-2008, 09:07 AM
Rafa for the Win!:D

I'm so excited for his first title of the year.:D

NaDALiTa
04-20-2008, 12:59 PM
Vamos Rafa the title should be yours!!!I missed clay so much :hearts:

Heavenseventeen
04-20-2008, 10:11 PM
My first time playing. I'd feel guilty for going for anything other than a Win in the final!

Luvyoyoma1954@co
04-21-2008, 04:28 AM
He will win. he will win.

Xristos
04-21-2008, 05:54 AM
Metis put me down as Champion.

MariaV
04-21-2008, 07:53 AM
Easy win for Nadal.

He wont drop a set

I wouldn't be so sure. :o :o :tape:
At least Kolya is injured (or was that a fix again? :o ;))

Just have to say I feel so sorry for Mario.
Djoker's luck is incredible. :haha: :haha:

Foxy
04-21-2008, 08:37 AM
RAFA for the first title!

tennizen
04-21-2008, 01:52 PM
Metis, Put me down for the semi too:)

Metis
04-21-2008, 01:58 PM
Update: :D


How far will Rafa go in Monte Carlo?

1st – (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF -
SF - l_mac, Metis, tennizen
F – wildegirl05, yana
W- Xoman, Blaze-2004, Getta, tennischeto, hra87, nashty, NaDaLiTa, Heavenseventeen, Luvyoyoma1954, Xristos, Foxy, platinum, cmurray




Rafa is also playing doubles with Robredo. Here is the draw:


(1)BRYAN, Bob / BRYAN, Mike vs Bye
MATHIEU, Paul-Henri (FRA)/SANTORO, Fabrice (FRA) vs BENNETEAU, Julien (FRA)/MAHUT, Nicolas (FRA)
COETZEE, Jeff (RSA)/MOODIE, Wesley (RSA) vs ACASUSO, Jose (ARG)/FERRER, David (ESP)
(7)CLEMENT, Arnaud / LLODRA, Michael vs Bye

(4)BHUPATHI, Mahesh (IND)/KNOWLES, Mark (BAH) vs Bye
MELO, Marcelo (BRA)/SA, Andre (BRA) vs GASQUET, Richard (FRA)/TIPSAREVIC, Janko (SRB)
DJOKOVIC, Novak (SRB)/STEPANEK, Radek (CZE) vs KERR, Jordan (AUS)/WASSEN, Rogier (NED)
(5)ASPELIN, Simon (SWE)/KNOWLE, Julian (AUT) vs Bye

(6)DLOUHY, Lukas (CZE)/VIZNER, Pavel (CZE) vs Bye
ANDREEV, Igor (RUS)/LJUBICIC, Ivan (CRO) vs CERMAK, Frantisek (CZE)/KOHLSCHREIBER, Philipp (GER)
COUILLARD, Guillaume (MON)/LISNARD, Jean-Rene (MON) vs NADAL, Rafael (ESP)/ROBREDO, Tommy (ESP)
(3)NESTOR, Daniel (CAN)/ZIMONJIC, Nenad (SRB) vs Bye

(8)BJORKMAN, Jonas (SWE)/ULLYETT, Kevin (ZIM) vs Bye
MIRNYI, Max (BLR)/MURRAY, Jamie (GBR) vs FYRSTENBERG, Mariusz (POL)/MATKOWSKI, Marcin (POL)
HANLEY, Paul (AUS)/PAES, Leander (IND) vs NALBANDIAN, David (ARG)/PRIETO, Sebastian (ARG)
(2)ERLICH, Jonathan (ISR)/RAM, Andy (ISR) vs Bye


Their first match is today, last one in Court Central :)

yana
04-21-2008, 04:33 PM
I say he'll make the final, a least I hope...

BTW, who's he playing fin the first round?

l_mac
04-21-2008, 05:21 PM
I say he'll make the final, a least I hope...

BTW, who's he playing fin the first round?

BYE.

In the 2nd round he has Ancic.

luxsword
04-21-2008, 05:34 PM
Vamos Rafa the title should be yours!!!I missed clay so much :hearts:

http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Anges_et_d%E9mons/girl_devil.gif MťLISSA !!!!!!!! :bounce: I thought you'd disappeared forever. :awww: You know JM asked about you ? :aplot: How are you ?? :) http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Content/youpi-12.gif

platinum
04-21-2008, 06:22 PM
Rafa wins his first title of the year in Monte Carlo.

MariaV
04-21-2008, 06:43 PM
Have you seen this? Rafa and Djoker in the casino... :o :o :help: :help:

http://montecarlo.masters-series.com/1/en/news/newsarticle_1004.asp

cmurray
04-21-2008, 07:21 PM
Metis, put me down for the big win. :D

Denisse
04-21-2008, 07:30 PM
can i make my prediction too???

MariaV
04-21-2008, 07:39 PM
R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) d [WC] G Couillard (MON) / J Lisnard (MON) 62 61
:cool: :cool:

Tomorrow
R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) vs [3] D Nestor (CAN) / N Zimonjic (SRB) - To be arranged
Hopefully on Court Central again. :D

tennizen
04-21-2008, 07:39 PM
can i make my prediction too???

Yes you are welcome. You can check the IW thread for the rules of MIT:)

MariaV
04-21-2008, 07:40 PM
can i make my prediction too???

Of course you can. :D :wavey:

Metis
04-21-2008, 08:29 PM
can i make my prediction too???

Of course!


R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) d [WC] G Couillard (MON) / J Lisnard (MON) 62 61
:cool: :cool:

Tomorrow
R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) vs [3] D Nestor (CAN) / N Zimonjic (SRB) - To be arranged
Hopefully on Court Central again. :D

Why, was there coverage of their match today? :scratch:

tangerine_dream
04-21-2008, 09:05 PM
I don't see anybody on Roger's side giving Rafa trouble on clay. The baby balls Murray/Gasquet/Djokovic won't do anything here. Roger played badly in Estoril he's lucky he faced a bunch of challenger-caliber players and then fixer Donkey in the final. Honestly, Querrey did Rafa a huge favor by dumping Lord Carlos for him.

On Rafa's side I am stuck on Ferrer in the QFs. I know Rafa hasn't lost to David on clay but this is 2008, the year of upsets. Plus, David just won Valencia. Ferrer has been flying under the radar all year. This makes me nervous.

Oooh, I hope I'm wrong, so wrong, but I will say Rafa in QFs. Bamos, Rafa.

l_mac
04-21-2008, 09:30 PM
I don't see anybody on Roger's side giving Rafa trouble on clay. The baby balls Murray/Gasquet/Djokovic won't do anything here. Roger played badly in Estoril he's lucky he faced a bunch of challenger-caliber players and then fixer Donkey in the final. Honestly, Querrey did Rafa a huge favor by dumping Lord Carlos for him.

On Rafa's side I am stuck on Ferrer in the QFs. I know Rafa hasn't lost to David on clay but this is 2008, the year of upsets. Plus, David just won Valencia. Ferrer has been flying under the radar all year. This makes me nervous.

Oooh, I hope I'm wrong, so wrong, but I will say Rafa in QFs. Bamos, Rafa.

Ferrer had his thigh taped in Valencia, and will be celebrating hard after his hometown win. I am still giving all my :scared: :unsure: to Ancic.

Ancic :scared: :unsure:

raven gypsy
04-21-2008, 10:39 PM
RAFA for the first title!

I really wanna see the biting of this trophy --
add me to the W :wavey:

MariaV
04-22-2008, 07:55 AM
Ferrer had his thigh taped in Valencia, and will be celebrating hard after his hometown win. I am still giving all my :scared: :unsure: to Ancic.

Ancic :scared: :unsure:

Yes, and to be honest Ferrer hasn't been in top shape this year, that's why he's been flying under the radar.

OK should I also give my traditional :scared: :unsure: or what's the deal now? :scratch:
Tbh Super Mario is very nice and all but I don't think he's a match to Rafa on clay. :o :o I'll be going to the parallel universe now. ;) :bolt:

acionescu
04-22-2008, 11:55 AM
Metis, wellcome back! :hug: I'm just coming back from a trip and I don't know if he played yet. :o If no, put me for the win, WTH! :rocker2:

The Pro
04-22-2008, 01:43 PM
I predict a win!

Metis
04-22-2008, 02:10 PM
How far will Rafa go in Monte Carlo?

1st – (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF - tangerine dream
SF - l_mac, Metis, tennizen
F – wildegirl05, yana
W- Xoman, Blaze-2004, Getta, tennischeto, hra87, nashty, NaDaLiTa, Heavenseventeen, Luvyoyoma1954, Xristos, Foxy, platinum, cmurray, raven gypsy,acionescu, The Pro, Denisse, MariaV, GuiroNl, scarecrows :D




Don't forget you can post/change your predictions until Rafa's 1st match starts...

l_mac
04-22-2008, 02:18 PM
OMG look at all the wins :bigcry:

Denisse
04-22-2008, 03:33 PM
This is clay, i don't think he should have any problems taking the title..right? i say he wins the tournament. :)

l_mac
04-22-2008, 03:43 PM
The OOP for tomorrow is out.

Rafa is 3rd on Central, after Davy and Fed.

Bad time for me :mad:

Metis
04-22-2008, 03:49 PM
OMG look at all the wins :bigcry:

:lol: Are you changing your mind? :p


The OOP for tomorrow is out.

Rafa is 3rd on Central, after Davy and Fed.

Bad time for me :mad:

sounds good to me :ras:

MariaV
04-22-2008, 04:21 PM
Tomorrow:
COURT CENTRAL start 10:00 am
[Q] S Bolelli (ITA) vs [4] N Davydenko (RUS)
[1] R Federer (SUI) vs [Q] R Ramirez Hidalgo (ESP)
[WC] M Ancic (CRO) vs [2] R Nadal (ESP)

It's great for me, I hope to get home for Rafa's match. :o :o I really do. VAMOS! :bigclap: :banana: :yippee: :bounce:

Metis, OK put me down for W too. :o :tape:

MariaV
04-22-2008, 06:24 PM
R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) d D Nestor (CAN) / N Zimonjic (SRB) 57 63 10-3

:spit: :haha: :worship: :bowdown:

Denisse
04-22-2008, 06:48 PM
:eek: hahahaha! this is a good sign! :p

Aenea
04-22-2008, 07:31 PM
R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) d D Nestor (CAN) / N Zimonjic (SRB) 57 63 10-3

:spit: :haha: :worship: :bowdown:

Congrats! :clap2: Great win! It took them only 1h25min, good practice for tomorrow I guess :)
Imagine Rafa wins here both singles and doubles titles :p

GuiroNl
04-22-2008, 09:33 PM
Am I too late for the MIT?

If not, put me down for a W

scarecrows
04-22-2008, 10:09 PM
W for me also

l_mac
04-22-2008, 10:11 PM
:eek: hahahaha! this is a good sign! :p

Congrats! :clap2: Great win! It took them only 1h25min, good practice for tomorrow I guess :)
Imagine Rafa wins here both singles and doubles titles :p
It's not good at all :( If he were to win both, he'd need to play 2 matches in a day 3 times.
Am I too late for the MIT?

If not, put me down for a W

W for me also

:lol:

Ancic :scared: :unsure:

hra87
04-22-2008, 10:43 PM
It's not good at all :( If he were to win both, he'd need to play 2 matches in a day 3 times.


Oh, stop it with your pessimism. Everyone knows Rafa is going to win Monte Carlo, Rome, Barcelona, Hamburg, and Roland Garros--both singles AND doubles.

:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship:

Getta
04-23-2008, 12:12 AM
Oh, stop it with your pessimism. Everyone knows Rafa is going to win Monte Carlo, Rome, Barcelona, Hamburg, and Roland Garros--both singles AND doubles.

:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship:

:lol:

Seriously now, I'd prefer Rafa not to play Hamburg. I wouldn't mind either if he "exchanged" Rome for Wimbledon ;) AND Stuttgart.

Luvyoyoma1954@co
04-23-2008, 03:51 AM
I hope am down as a win also. :wavey::wavey:

GuiroNl
04-23-2008, 08:45 AM
:lol:

Seriously now, I'd prefer Rafa not to play Hamburg. I wouldn't mind either if he "exchanged" Rome for Wimbledon ;) AND Stuttgart.

Better not play Barcelona in my opinion. Much better for his schedule. Playing three weeks in a row is not that smart but not playing Hamburg would be better than playing everything.

I fear that Nadal and his team will show us their true smarts and play everything though :rolleyes:. Working his ass off in doubles :mad:. Same clownish behaviour earned Monaco an injury in the SA clay swing.

Aenea
04-23-2008, 09:45 AM
It's not good at all :( If he were to win both, he'd need to play 2 matches in a day 3 times.
Linda, I was joking of course :confused: I cant believe you took me serious about the doubles title.


I fear that Nadal and his team will show us their true smarts and play everything though :rolleyes:. Working his ass off in doubles :mad:. Same clownish behaviour earned Monaco an injury in the SA clay swing.
Nadal said though the hectic schedule he'll try and play all the clay tournaments where he has points to defend.:scared: I hope he reconsiders and withdraw from Barcelona and Hamburg.

Best of luck today v Mario, Rafa. :bigclap:

hra87
04-23-2008, 03:30 PM
Man oh man, Nadal bagels Ancic, Federer taken to a 3rd set tiebreak by Hidalgo...I think it might be clay season.

:)

Savor it while it lasts...

l_mac
04-23-2008, 03:32 PM
Ferrero :scared: :unsure:


;)

Metis
04-23-2008, 03:47 PM
So here are all the predictions. Hopefully we'll have more than 2 winners :p


How far will Rafa go in Monte Carlo?

1st – (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF - tangerine dream
SF - l_mac, Metis, tennizen
F – wildegirl05, yana
W- Xoman, Blaze-2004, Getta, tennischeto, hra87, nashty, NaDaLiTa, Heavenseventeen, Luvyoyoma1954, Xristos, Foxy, platinum, cmurray, raven gypsy,acionescu, The Pro, Denisse, MariaV, GuiroNl, scarecrows. :D



Nadal def. Ancic 6-0 6-3 :dance:

Next up Ferrero...

tangerine_dream
04-23-2008, 04:21 PM
Ancic :scared: :unsure:
:spit: What a beatdown.

Metis
04-23-2008, 04:30 PM
OOP for tomorrow; Rafa is playing both singles and doubles :cool:


COURT CENTRAL start 10:00 am

[5] D Ferrer (ESP) vs J Tipsarevic (SRB)
[13] J Ferrero (ESP) vs [2] R Nadal (ESP)
[1] R Federer (SUI) vs G Monfils (FRA)
[3] N Djokovic (SRB) vs [14] A Murray (GBR)
[1] B Bryan (USA) / M Bryan (USA) vs [WC] J Benneteau (FRA) / N Mahut (FRA)


COURT DES PRINCES start 10:00 am

I Andreev (RUS) vs N Almagro (ESP)
[16] P Kohlschreiber (GER) vs [4] N Davydenko (RUS)
[12] T Robredo (ESP) or R Soderling (SWE) vs [6] D Nalbandian (ARG)
S Querrey (USA) vs [Q] K Vliegen (BEL) or [7] R Gasquet (FRA)
F Cermak (CZE) / P Kohlschreiber (GER) vs R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP)

Naina
04-23-2008, 05:14 PM
I had exams this week so i totally forgot about MIT. I hope I am not late and please put me down as W as well.
BTW very well played Rafa. Good luck against JC.

Aenea
04-23-2008, 05:29 PM
Congratulations to Rafa, good match though I didn't like he got broken once, shouldn't allow that. Anyway moving forward convincingly. Next up JC and Kohli/Cermak.

Good luck in both singles :) AND doubles :p

Metis, should Rafa win both titles may I get extra points for my correct (and encouraging :D ) prediction for the doubles too :lol:

Foxy
04-23-2008, 07:13 PM
That was scaryyyyyyyyy. :devil:

NaDALiTa
04-24-2008, 12:18 AM
Nice start from Rafa I hope he won't spend too much time on court tomorrow.Rafa's first serve rate was really impressive it seems that playing on HC helped his serve.

the_natural
04-24-2008, 02:29 AM
I dunno about that match, I felt great watching that first set, he was unplayable Mario could hardly get his footing right rafa lost six points in total in the first set, in the second set at 2-0 he seemed to drop out of the zone, he was pretty much hugging the baseline in the first set and then at 2-0 he made one or 2 loose errors then seemed to start thinking about his shots and the follow through didnt look as aggressive, i think that minor change in mentality makes all the difference between hittin right on the lines and hitting 2 inches out as was the case with rafa.

After that it was very unencouraging because he went from that aggressive playing up in the court to rafa of 05-06 Standing several feet behind the baseline, sure he was still trying to change direction on the ball and everythin but he did it from so far back that mario had more time and was able to make rafa run alot more, he also looked alot more comfortable with rallying from the back, I know Ancic also started to red line his game and was just hitting the outside edge of the line to win points but still, its not encouraging when he comes up against Ferrer, Davydenko or even Federer... hell if Nalby picks up form it could be dangerous for rafa to move into his shell like that. Then after he broke Mario he moved back up in the court.....

I also have a problem with his backhand, sure its solid but he doesnt seem to be able to hurt opponents with depth on that shot, hes got that short angled shot which isnt THAT deadly when you dont have that deep one left hand corner to move your opponent far back behind the baseline and keep them from attacking the ball, he was hitting alot of BH Down the line but they had lots of side spin that was moving them back into ancic, so when ancic hit to the backhand side of rafa he was hardly running at all and was also given time to wait for the short ball and then make rafa run.

I know im stressin since its early in the clay court season but rafa can have a habit of "sticking to what wins matches" and if he finds that the 5 feet behind the baseline and running all day, style wins more points he may stick to it, and with the way this season is so compacted and the amount of tournaments hes gonna play (hes gonna do barcelona he loves it and its Barcelona for gods sake, hes not gonna skip on his people), I dont think he can afford to worry about saving points and making himself run more as much as his opponent does, he cant rely on wearing them out either that should be the plan when all else fails. Geeze i hope he keeps up the aggressive brand of tennis, cos hes the only player who can play with that much top spin that close to the baseline and open the court up that much on clay.

Foxy
04-24-2008, 08:35 AM
Nice start from Rafa I hope he won't spend too much time on court tomorrow.Rafa's first serve rate was really impressive it seems that playing on HC helped his serve.

I don't think his serve is so improved. The difference is that on hard he is going for the aces and that's why his 1st serve percentage drops so much. Now on clay he just puts the ball in play with lots of topspin hence the high 1st serve percentage and higher effectiveness. Because you know in rallies there is no one who can outrally him on clay.

Interesting I just understood it myself why the big servers are far less effective on clay apart from the slow court. There is smth more. The balls get quite heavy from the dirt and they pick up some moisture from the court as well. They fluff up and become bigger. Now they cannot be controled so well with flat serve. Hence players hit it at the net or out. The first serve percentage drops and those who count on their serves find themselves in "no man's land". And if they choose to reduce the speed in order to have more 1st serves in they are again slaughtered.

Metis
04-24-2008, 02:05 PM
Nadal-Ferrero 6-4 6-1 :dance:

Bring it on Pics Ferrer! :armed:



I had exams this week so i totally forgot about MIT. I hope I am not late and please put me down as W as well.
BTW very well played Rafa. Good luck against JC.

That's just excuses young lady! :p Unfortunately the rules of the competition state that you have to make your prediction before Rafa's first match. :shrug:

hra87
04-24-2008, 02:48 PM
Nadal-Ferrero 6-4 6-1 :dance:

Bring it on Pics Ferrer! :armed:





That's just excuses young lady! :p Unfortunately the rules of the competition state that you have to make your prediction before Rafa's first match. :shrug:

I feel bad for pics, no one is even giving him a chance...

l_mac
04-24-2008, 04:16 PM
Ferrer :scared: :unsure:

I'm terrified of Ferru. I think he'll take Rafa out.

Danarn
04-24-2008, 04:42 PM
no i don`t think so..
ferrer is a great tennis player but not better than rafa is on clay!!
Rafa is defending a title and not wathever title so he is going to do anything to win!!!:worship:

the_natural
04-24-2008, 04:51 PM
no i don`t think so..
ferrer is a great tennis player but not better than rafa is on clay!!
Rafa is defending a title and not wathever title so he is going to do anything to win!!!:worship:

Your young so you dont understand wat it is to be afraid...


Anyways even if Ferrer doesnt beat him there is still the match thrower as a potential opponent in the semis, and u know he wont throw a match against rafa the way he did against his beloved rogi in Estoril, i still dont understand why the f@#$ that stupid bald headed tree stump is able to play so confidently against rafa but then when he plays against someone who is completley thrown off by his style and ISNT fast enough to get the majority of his shots back, he completley chokes... i guess its just cos its the swiss miss and he falls victim to the hype, but yeh his game matches up so perfectly to federer and rafas but he only plays his best against rafa and only seems to believe in hismelf against rafa.... I hope rafa turns that around and makes the russian pay, this is like a warm up for Davis cup too.

the_natural
04-24-2008, 04:53 PM
U know this draw is turnin out to be alot tougher than we originally thought I reallllllyy hope Rafa wins MC, I mean thers huge potential for Nalby or Nole to take out the cheese before the final, and if rafa wins he defends so he moves closer to the number 1 ranking again. But im still really scared of the next 2 matches.... Im not sure if he feels as invincible as last year... And hes definatley lost serve more this year than he did last year at the beggining of the clay court season, but mayeb its a good sign in a way that hes not trying to save points hes going out and winning em and not being afraid of making some errors??? I dunno i didnt see the JCF match

tangerine_dream
04-24-2008, 05:29 PM
On Rafa's side I am stuck on Ferrer in the QFs. I know Rafa hasn't lost to David on clay but this is 2008, the year of upsets. Plus, David just won Valencia. Ferrer has been flying under the radar all year. This makes me nervous. Oooh, I hope I'm wrong, so wrong, but I will say Rafa in QFs. Bamos, Rafa.
Pfft. What was I smoking? Rafa the Barbarian will take Dahveed to the cleaners. :D

Danarn
04-24-2008, 05:34 PM
Your young so you dont understand wat it is to be afraid...


Anyways even if Ferrer doesnt beat him there is still the match thrower as a potential opponent in the semis, and u know he wont throw a match against rafa the way he did against his beloved rogi in Estoril, i still dont understand why the f@#$ that stupid bald headed tree stump is able to play so confidently against rafa but then when he plays against someone who is completley thrown off by his style and ISNT fast enough to get the majority of his shots back, he completley chokes... i guess its just cos its the swiss miss and he falls victim to the hype, but yeh his game matches up so perfectly to federer and rafas but he only plays his best against rafa and only seems to believe in hismelf against rafa.... I hope rafa turns that around and makes the russian pay, this is like a warm up for Davis cup too.


If i young it doesn`t matter, my age it doesn`t matter i know what is to be afraid..how could u know that i doesn`t know what is to be afraid?:confused:
i just said that because i trust in rafa and he is playing great, i know that Ferrer is a big competition and his game is great and i know he can beat rafa but i hope not and i know this season for rafa is going to be difficult becuase we are seeing more great tennis players with different games but he has so potencial and he can do a great season this year.

l_mac
04-24-2008, 05:49 PM
U know this draw is turnin out to be alot tougher than we originally thought I reallllllyy hope Rafa wins MC, I mean thers huge potential for Nalby or Nole to take out the cheese before the final, and if rafa wins he defends so he moves closer to the number 1 ranking again. But im still really scared of the next 2 matches.... Im not sure if he feels as invincible as last year... And hes definatley lost serve more this year than he did last year at the beggining of the clay court season, but mayeb its a good sign in a way that hes not trying to save points hes going out and winning em and not being afraid of making some errors??? I dunno i didnt see the JCF match

:confused: Nadal had a tough draw from the start of the tournament :shrug: And if Fed loses in the semis or quarters, he's already made up the lost points because he won Estoril.

l_mac
04-24-2008, 06:16 PM
Rafa :mad: Stop trying dso bloody hard in the doubles :fiery:

hra87
04-24-2008, 07:02 PM
Stupid Djokovic, how can such a no-talent clown have such good results! And such an easy draw!

COME ON QUERREY, FO 2008 WILL BE YOURS!

MariaV
04-24-2008, 07:24 PM
R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) d F Cermak (CZE) / P Kohlschreiber (GER) 67(5) 61 10-3

Rafa for MC double! :rocker: :haha: :scared: :unsure:

Yes Linda, Pics will surely take Rafa out tomorrow. :scared: :unsure:


COURT CENTRAL start 10:30 am
I Andreev (RUS) vs [4] N Davydenko (RUS)
[1] R Federer (SUI) vs [6] D Nalbandian (ARG)
[5] D Ferrer (ESP) vs [2] R Nadal (ESP)

l_mac
04-24-2008, 07:30 PM
R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) d F Cermak (CZE) / P Kohlschreiber (GER) 67(5) 61 10-3

Rafa for MC double! :rocker: :haha: :scared: :unsure:

Yes Linda, Pics will surely take Rafa out tomorrow. :scared: :unsure:


COURT CENTRAL start 10:30 am
I Andreev (RUS) vs [4] N Davydenko (RUS)
[1] R Federer (SUI) vs [6] D Nalbandian (ARG)
[5] D Ferrer (ESP) vs [2] R Nadal (ESP)

I will fucking kill Rafa :mad: People who saw his previous doubles match said he won it by himself :o and I doubt this one was any different. He will lose tomorrow for sure, and I will balme the doubles. But on GM I will say that he is desperate to take home an Olympic gold for Spain, and thinks dbles is his best shot :cool:

hra87
04-24-2008, 07:31 PM
I will fucking kill Rafa :mad: People who saw his previous doubles match said he won it by himself :o and I doubt this one was any different. He will lose tomorrow for sure, and I will balme the doubles. But on GM I will say that he is desperate to take home an Olympic gold for Spain, and thinks dbles is his best shot :cool:

The olympics are on hardcourt, right? And Robredo is his doubles partner, right?

I don't get what the hell is wrong with him. Maybe he's over-confident?

l_mac
04-24-2008, 07:46 PM
I doubt he's that confident. He maybe thinks he needs extra practise.

MariaV
04-24-2008, 08:09 PM
The olympics are on hardcourt, right? And Robredo is his doubles partner, right?

I don't get what the hell is wrong with him. Maybe he's over-confident?

Maybe he's just a bit :cuckoo:?
;)

Getta
04-24-2008, 08:43 PM
Since when are the commonly accepted norms applied to Rafa's case?

NaDALiTa
04-24-2008, 11:36 PM
I don't think his serve is so improved. The difference is that on hard he is going for the aces and that's why his 1st serve percentage drops so much. Now on clay he just puts the ball in play with lots of topspin hence the high 1st serve percentage and higher effectiveness. Because you know in rallies there is no one who can outrally him on clay.

Interesting I just understood it myself why the big servers are far less effective on clay apart from the slow court. There is smth more. The balls get quite heavy from the dirt and they pick up some moisture from the court as well. They fluff up and become bigger. Now they cannot be controled so well with flat serve. Hence players hit it at the net or out. The first serve percentage drops and those who count on their serves find themselves in "no man's land". And if they choose to reduce the speed in order to have more 1st serves in they are again slaughtered.

His serves are faster than before,I remember Rafa a few years ago serving "first-second" balls on clay which were really really slow,now his serve is more consistent and efficient as he added power.I don't mean he shall go for the ace on clay,but it's faster.I've also noticed that he attempts more winner points than before,i don't know if HC have something to do with it!

Concerning the size of the ball on clay,you're completely right,and it's exactly the opposite on HC especially when the temperature is high.You may have tried to play on hard court with an old ball with no fluff around,it becomes very small and fast...eek:p

NaDALiTa
04-24-2008, 11:40 PM
Playing the doubles is insanity,Rafa seems to forget that he is not in the tournament to play one or two rounds he's there to keep his title.I think it's a useless waste of energy ...i won't be surprise if he is exhausted at the Uso.

hra87
04-25-2008, 02:47 AM
His serves are faster than before,I remember Rafa a few years ago serving "first-second" balls on clay which were really really slow,now his serve is more consistent and efficient as he added power.I don't mean he shall go for the ace on clay,but it's faster.I've also noticed that he attempts more winner points than before,i don't know if HC have something to do with it!

Concerning the size of the ball on clay,you're completely right,and it's exactly the opposite on HC especially when the temperature is high.You may have tried to play on hard court with an old ball with no fluff around,it becomes very small and fast...eek:p

He's definitely added some MPH to his serve since '05. Let's not talk about placement though :help:.

Johnny Groove
04-25-2008, 03:36 AM
Robredo is such a mug, why didnt Rafa play with Lopez or someone with some volleys?

MariaV
04-25-2008, 08:08 AM
Robredo is such a mug, why didnt Rafa play with Lopez or someone with some volleys?

Feli and Fer is the main doubles pairing for Spain in the DC now while Rafa and even the Robredo mug are more for singles in the DC. And they have played really well together giving Rafa the eneded rest at the DC. :shrug: And Probably it was decided that Rafa and Tommy R should be the other doubles team for the Olympics.

GuiroNl
04-25-2008, 08:23 AM
I will fucking kill Rafa :mad: People who saw his previous doubles match said he won it by himself :o and I doubt this one was any different. He will lose tomorrow for sure, and I will balme the doubles. But on GM I will say that he is desperate to take home an Olympic gold for Spain, and thinks dbles is his best shot :cool:

Who cares what those arse clowns have to say :haha:

l_mac
04-25-2008, 04:08 PM
Ferrer :scared: :unsure: :bigcry:

Metis
04-25-2008, 05:04 PM
Update :dance:


How far will Rafa go in Monte Carlo?

1st – (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF - tangerine dream
SF - l_mac, Metis, tennizen
F – wildegirl05, yana
W- Xoman, Blaze-2004, Getta, tennischeto, hra87, nashty, NaDaLiTa, Heavenseventeen, Luvyoyoma1954, Xristos, Foxy, platinum, cmurray, raven gypsy,acionescu, The Pro, Denisse, MariaV, GuiroNl, scarecrows. :D




tangerine dream you lost :ras:

l_mac
04-25-2008, 05:14 PM
Ferrer :scared: :unsure: :bigcry:

:worship: :rocker:

I posted these smilies at 0-3 down in the 2nd.

Proof positive they work :dance:

Sean.J.S.
04-25-2008, 05:35 PM
David lead *3-0 and later on *5-4 40-0 in that second set, and Rafa somehow escaped and won the match, 6-1 7-5.

Sorry but I'll be cheering for Kolya in the SFs but if he does indeed reach the final, then I'll be hoping for a fourth consecutive Monte Carlo title. :D

Metis
04-25-2008, 06:15 PM
OOP for tomorrow:


Not Before 1:30 PM

[4] N Davydenko (RUS) vs [2] R Nadal (ESP)
followed by
[1] R Federer (SUI) vs [3] N Djokovic (SRB) or S Querrey (USA)
followed by
R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) vs [8] J Bjorkman (SWE) / K Ullyett (ZIM)

tangerine_dream
04-25-2008, 06:16 PM
Update :dance:
tangerine dream you lost :ras:
Yaaay :yippee:

Bamos, Rafa. Get your revenge over Donkey next. :boxing:

NaDALiTa
04-25-2008, 07:26 PM
Rafa please stay focused after winning a set,it's always the same song!I couldn't follow what happened at 5-4 40/40 (due to blackout :( ) did David tanked or Rafa played better ?? :shrug:

Next match Davydenko,this deserves a quote from Rafa: "tough match ,no??" :lol:

Denisse
04-26-2008, 03:50 AM
he soooort of stepped it up a bit, but i think it was mostly that ferrer tanked.

l_mac
04-26-2008, 12:39 PM
Davydenko :scared: :unsure: :sad:

Metis
04-26-2008, 02:30 PM
Nadal-Davydenko 6-3 6-2 :bigclap:


How far will Rafa go in Monte Carlo?

1st Ė (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF - tangerine dream
SF - l_mac, Metis, tennizen
F Ė wildegirl05, yana
W- Xoman, Blaze-2004, Getta, tennischeto, hra87, nashty, NaDaLiTa, Heavenseventeen, Luvyoyoma1954, Xristos, Foxy, platinum, cmurray, raven gypsy,acionescu, The Pro, Denisse, MariaV, GuiroNl, scarecrows. :D




Today's losers :ras:: l_mac, Metis :sad:, tennizen

l_mac
04-26-2008, 02:31 PM
That was rubbish, Rafa :(

I hope you're holding something back.

GL in the doubles :tape:

Danarn
04-26-2008, 02:59 PM
YEIP!!!!!!!!!!RAFA WONS!!!
right to the final!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeahhh VAMOS RAFA!!:worship::worship::worship::worship:

MariaV
04-26-2008, 03:18 PM
Oh, I'll take that. :D 6-3 6-2 although the score is deceiving. Kolya gave a good fight.
Now I am sooooooo :scared: :unsure: for the final. :bolt:

Danarn
04-26-2008, 03:41 PM
Oh, I'll take that. :D 6-3 6-2 although the score is deceiving. Kolya gave a good fight.
Now I am sooooooo :scared: :unsure: for the final. :bolt:

yeap i`m scared too but happy becuase he is in the final!

raven gypsy
04-26-2008, 05:05 PM
FEDAL again woo-hoo!!

should be fun.

Denisse
04-26-2008, 05:07 PM
if he plays like he did today, he's going to lose tomorrow. but, i remember thinking that last year, and he still somehow managed to win. is he still playing doubles?

Danarn
04-26-2008, 05:30 PM
is going to be an awesome game!!
boths really wants to win!!!but we can`t know how is going to be the game tomorrow..
but of course i hope rafa wins!!!

NaDALiTa
04-26-2008, 05:45 PM
Yep Denisse Rafa is still playing doubles,they've lost the first set 7-5 and are leading 2-1 in the second!I wish they'd lost this match so that Rafa won't have two play two matches.
Today it was a normal match,not good,not bad hopefully the stake of the final will help him to play better.Vamos!

l_mac
04-26-2008, 06:01 PM
Federer :scared: :unsure:

raven gypsy
04-26-2008, 06:43 PM
Raf-Robredo won their match.
So it's both singles and doubles finals for Raf tomorrow :lol:

Metis
04-26-2008, 06:55 PM
Federer :scared: :unsure:


:yeah: :D

MariaV
04-26-2008, 06:59 PM
OMG I'm soooo scared for tomorrow. :tape:
Hahaaa, and how funny is that
R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) vs [8] J Bjorkman (SWE) / K Ullyett (ZIM) 5-7 7-6 (6) 10-7.
Anothr 2 hours on the court! :cuckoo:
And look what Fed had to say:

"The matches he wins, he grinds them out. :( :rolleyes: Even if he wins today 2 and 3 [against Davydenko], it's still a one-and-a-half-hour match, which is quite surprising. Might have had something to do with that there were lots of deuces and BPs and long rallies which meant long games and 5 min per game on clay wasn't THAT long actually.So it shows you you'll always get your chance against him. I'd like to be able to push him tomorrow and see what he can come up with at the most important moments."

Denisse
04-26-2008, 07:12 PM
Yep Denisse Rafa is still playing doubles,they've lost the first set 7-5 and are leading 2-1 in the second!I wish they'd lost this match so that Rafa won't have two play two matches.
Today it was a normal match,not good,not bad hopefully the stake of the final will help him to play better.Vamos!

i just thought he would come to his senses, and realize that that is crazy. does that mean he's in the final for doubles too?

tennizen
04-26-2008, 07:12 PM
I lost in MIT:woohoo:

Edit: Federer:scared::scared:

NaDALiTa
04-26-2008, 07:47 PM
OMG this Rafa boy is crazy!(emilio sanchez vicario must be happy to have a good double team tho) Tomorrow no matter how long the simple final will be,he'll have to play the double and then go to Barcelona :scared: :scared:

hra87
04-26-2008, 08:19 PM
lol, what will Nadal's doubles ranking be if he wins?

MariaV
04-26-2008, 09:55 PM
http://montecarlo.masters-series.com/1/en/news/newsarticle_1079.asp

Metis
04-26-2008, 11:08 PM
Tard Wars tomorrow (see signature) :D

NaDALiTa
04-27-2008, 12:34 AM
:lol: :lol: great idea :bounce: :fiery:

the_natural
04-27-2008, 01:02 AM
OMG I'm soooo scared for tomorrow. :tape:
Hahaaa, and how funny is that
R Nadal (ESP) / T Robredo (ESP) vs [8] J Bjorkman (SWE) / K Ullyett (ZIM) 5-7 7-6 (6) 10-7.
Anothr 2 hours on the court! :cuckoo:
And look what Fed had to say:

Damn it i hate that stupid swiss miss, but the cheese will have a good chance of winning tommorow, its just playing without thinkin, just reactive tennis and it looks dangerous.

Rafa is looking like he did in Hamburg last year I dunno what the hell is going on, The first round he was deadly, he was being so aggressive against the short ball, and then it all seemed to change in that Ferrer match, he came out strong and then ferrer steps up the aggression and rafa is on the back foot, rafa looks a little slow too and his footwork doesnt look so good, he looks like hes been overplaying because hes not running around to hit aggressive forehands. And the biggest problem with rafa's game right now is that F@#$ing backhand, its dropping so short, and is such an easy sitter, hes not gonna be able to get away with that tommorow Cos Koyla was just hitting loads of Cross Court Forehands, The cheese was hitting alot down the line and then that short sharp angled one too, and its not even trying very hard just using the pace of the opponents against them.

I swear to god rafa better bring his A game tommorow, I have a really bad feeling about this final though I mean even the forehands are dropping short, barely going past the service line, and hes only showing flashes of brilliance he doesnt look anywhere near as good as he did this time last year.

I think you guuys are right its the doubles, i dunno what Rafa is trying to prove but its just idiotic, I wonder if the pressure of trying to make history in monte carlo is building up too, and the pressure of knowing he has to play 2 finals, do you think he will hold back some energy in the REAL final tommorow so that he wont let Robredo down in the doubles??

Also Anyone notice how far hes moving behind the baseline?? I know I know its clay, but even for him its far, and even when hes getting shots that he can step into, he just seems to be standing in place and hitting it, the only time he seems to become aggressive is when hes in the lead, I have a reallly bad feeling about tommorows final, He has the game but is he gonna bring it...

Oh great i just read that the doubles match was 1 hour 55 minutes. Just great F@#$

NaDALiTa
04-27-2008, 01:20 AM
I've noticed the same things that you did The Natural,but Rafa may adapt his game depending who he meets no?He has also problems of focussing after the win of a set,he'll have to fix it for tomorrow.Vamos :bounce:

the_natural
04-27-2008, 01:56 AM
I've noticed the same things that you did The Natural,but Rafa may adapt his game depending who he meets no?He has also problems of focussing after the win of a set,he'll have to fix it for tomorrow.Vamos :bounce:

Hey long time no see :) But I wish you hadnt agreed with me and had told me i was just being a deluded paranoid fool :sad:

Im also really scared because whats with the friggen Slice??? How many times was he slicing/chopping that backhand? Im really hoping that it was just a tactic he was using against Koyla since he does seem to have problems with people using the slice alot he finds it tougher to hit that low ball down the line and if you get enough of those back usually koyla has a problem, but i hope it was one off...

Rafa used to say that when he played the Swiss he was more aggressive because he felt he had to play his best tennis and had to be more aggressive in order to win. Thats gonna have to be the case tommorow...

Damn it i cant get over this bad feeling I really dont think Rafa will be able to win tommorow, The swiss is playing nothing to lose tennis, and as well as rome 06, Rafa on the other hand is playing almost as badly as Hamburg 07 (I say ALMOST because at the very least he is changing direction on the forehand, but thats it, hes just so far back that its hard effective at all.)

Tnn74
04-27-2008, 07:20 AM
Vamos Rafito! :rocker2:
kill 'em tomorrow! :bounce:

l_mac
04-27-2008, 01:49 PM
Please God, if you think it is right, let Rafi win today :)

Metis
04-27-2008, 03:23 PM
Please God, if you think it is right, let Rafi win today :)


:spit:

l_mac
04-27-2008, 03:25 PM
Like we long suspected, God is a fan of the arrogant Swiss.

Naide
04-27-2008, 04:02 PM
:aparty: bamos boy is back

nashty
04-27-2008, 04:09 PM
:woohoo::woohoo: RAFA WON! :woohoo::woohoo:


and so did I (in MIT)! :D:D:D:D


come on rafa! carry the momentum on to your doubles!!!


*i'll be waiting for my most awaited (and long overdue) Rafa trophy-biting picture!;)

Tess Gray
04-27-2008, 04:11 PM
yeah Rafa :woohoo:
hopefully he'll win the doubles too :D:D

alisia
04-27-2008, 04:15 PM
:bounce: Rafa, what a comeback in the 2nd set :worship:

Foxy
04-27-2008, 04:17 PM
LOL, I could see only the final 6-7 games and what I saw was beautiful. Roger looked tired to me, though. As if he was playing doubles not Rafa. But he played Estoril so that is maybe the reason or he could not endure Rafa's tempo.
Well done, Rafa!

raven gypsy
04-27-2008, 04:23 PM
Well we all win today!

Nice to see a happy, smiley rafa. So sweet in his acceptance speech!

Metis
04-27-2008, 04:34 PM
Rafa wins the singles title :banana: :woohoo:



How far will Rafa go in Monte Carlo?

1st – (Bye)
2nd -
3rd -
QF - tangerine dream
SF - l_mac, Metis, tennizen
F – wildegirl05, yana
W- Xoman, Blaze-2004, Getta, tennischeto, hra87, nashty, NaDaLiTa, Heavenseventeen, Luvyoyoma1954, Xristos, Foxy, platinum, cmurray, raven gypsy,acionescu, The Pro, Denisse, MariaV, GuiroNl, scarecrows. :D



So many winners this time :bigclap:

Congratulations to: Xoman, Blaze-2004, Getta, tennischeto, hra87, nashty, NaDaLiTa, Heavenseventeen, Luvyoyoma1954, Xristos, Foxy, platinum, cmurray, raven gypsy,acionescu, The Pro, Denisse, MariaV, GuiroNl and scarecrows :aparty:

You all win 100 points :D



Current standings in the MIT competition:

cmurray _________ 200
raven_gypsy______ 200
MariaV___________200
GuiroNl__________ 200
Xoman___________200
nashty___________200
Tnn74 ___________100
tangerine_dream___100
Blaze-2004_______100
Getta____________100
tennischeto _______100
hra87 ___________100
NaDaLiTa_________100
Heavenseventeen___100
Luvyoyoma1954 ___100
Xristos___________100
Foxy ____________100
platinum__________100
acionescu_________100
The Pro__________100
Denisse__________100
scarecrows _______100

Herdwick
04-27-2008, 06:08 PM
Congratulations to Rafa - marvellous display and fully deserved win. Watching today, I honestly don't think he gets the credit from the wider world which he deserves - stupendous stuff. Guess after yesterday I'm in the mood to appreciate guts!

Was pulling for Roger today - it will be Rafa's turn at Wimbledon.

nashty
04-27-2008, 06:22 PM
WOAH! Rafa, you're sick!!!! Both Singles and Doubles titles!!!

Come on now.

Who owns monte carlo now?!

raven gypsy
04-27-2008, 06:28 PM
Raf-Robredo won the doubles title!!

raven gypsy
04-27-2008, 06:41 PM
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4419/happycn8.jpg
By woa (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/woa) at 2008-04-27

happy boy!

spriwi
04-27-2008, 06:47 PM
i bet he was even happier when he was awarded another trophy for doubles :)

Heavenseventeen
04-27-2008, 07:11 PM
Yay! 100 points. Now the Rafahaters can stop going on about the drought without titles.

Naide
04-27-2008, 07:12 PM
El Rey :angel:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080427/capt.5f604a74645844a0afeef6d47dba33b9.monte_carlo_ tennis_open_clp112.jpg

Sommarsverige
04-27-2008, 07:36 PM
Big congrats to Rafa for winning both singles and doubles title in Monte Carlo today :bounce: :bounce:

raven gypsy
04-27-2008, 07:50 PM
RAFAEL NADAL

R. NADAL b. R. Federer 7 5, 7 5

SCANAGATTA Q. What did you think when you were down 4‑Love in the second set?

RAFAEL NADAL: The true. The true. Just think about I gonna lose the set, but try to lose the set 6‑2, not 6‑Love or 6‑1, for go to a third set with good feelings.

Thatís my mentally was in that moment, no? And just try to fight every point because he was playing fine and I was going a little bit more behind the court, one meter behind. So he has the control of the court, of the point, always in that moment.

And I just try to change a little bit. I was analyzing whatís happening right now because heís winning the points easy to me right now, and I donít see no space for win the point, no? I thought I have to go a little bit more inside and try to fight every point.

Q. What does it mean to you to win your fourth title here?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, very happy, no, for sure. Is very special moment for me. You know, I played all the tournaments this year very well, but I didnít play the last match of every tournament well because I lost easy in Australia, I lost easy in Indian Wells and I lost easy in Miami.

Thatís, you know ‑‑ when you are playing well, when you are feeling you can win a tournament, and finally when youíre arriving to the last round and you play bad match, always you go into the next tournament with bad feeling, no?

So was the moment for if I have to lose, lose well, playing well, no? So today I play well. I fight every point. So winning for me fourth times in a row is very, very special, no? Probably one of the nicest tournaments of the world.

Q. Do you actually feel different playing a final on clay than you would, say, playing a final in Miami or playing a final in Australia? Is there a different feeling in you?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, the only thing I know if I am not playing very well, I have more time for think or for change the game. You have more options here, no? In Miami, you donít have many options. You have to play aggressive. If you are not playing well, try to be a little bit more defensive, is very difficult always, no? But here you have more alternatives for do, no?

So when I go to the court, I go always with a little bit more confidence, because that give me a little bit more confidence. But feeling nervous for sure, no? When I start the second think, I wasnít win a title yet, I feel it a little bit nervous, no? But finally I got luck, no?

MARTUCCI: What does it mean for you to take so many times the serve of Roger Federer? So many times you were leaving him one point, zero points.

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I donít know, no? I just try to put pressure on his backhand when I have the chance, try to be aggressive, and try to have a good return long. Thatís only my goal when I am in the returning, no, play long the first shot for try to have the control and can go a little bit more inside.

I know he had two breaks up in the first set. I come back. And in the second set the same, and I come back, too. So was a little bit strange because thatís not normal, no? When youíre playing a final against Roger, heís a big server. Anyway, if you are playing against me, is not normal to lose the serve four times, no, because, you know, during all the tournament I lost my serve, I donít know, three, four times, no more, no? And today four.

Q. Are you more surprised to win a set against Federer from 4‑Love down or win the doubles?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, probably when you start the week winning the doubles is a bad news, because you have to play a lot of matches, you have to play after your singles. But finally when you are in semifinals, you have a big illusion for try to win the doubles.

Anyway, if I lost the singles yesterday, well, when you are in the semifinals of a big tournament like Monte‑Carlo in doubles, you have a special motivation, no?

Well, I know if I am playing well with Tommy, we have good chances on clay for play good. I think is more difficult come back for 4‑0, no?

Q. Does it mean something for you to win the doubles? You seemed to be very aggressive. In the semifinals, calling the supervisor.

RAFAEL NADAL: No, we call the supervisor because we thought we are fine about the discussion, no? Well, for us is important because we have Olympic year this year and is impossible (indiscernible) with the doubles. And for sure the doubles help for the singles. Thatís hundred percent true.

Q. You mean for the mental, to be aggressive all the time?

RAFAEL NADAL: It help because you have to volley. You learn a little bit the movements in the volley. You have to return a little bit more aggressive, more inside, so you have another option when you are playing the singles. You can return like doubles sometimes. You practice different shots than the singles. So thatís always a good practice.

MARTUCCI: Looking back to your win against Albert Costa here, if you go back with your mind, what do you remember about that moment? Far away?

RAFAEL NADAL: Looks not far away, but at the same time, yes. Well, all is happening very fast, no? You know, well ‑‑

MARTUCCI: How much different were you?

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, I am coming here for the first time. Was here I was in the top hundred for the first time, no, when I win against Albert Costa, something like this. Always is important tournament for me, no (smiling)?

Well, is a big change, no? Was the first big tournament for me. I played probably my best tournament in my life since that moment because I play qualifying, won against Kucera, against Costa, have a good match against Coria. Right now everything change, no? Happy about the change.


http://www.blogquotidiani.net/tennis/?page_id=1939#fed27

MariaV
04-27-2008, 09:02 PM
Am I doing well at MIT or what! :D :woohoo: :banana: :dance:

NaDALiTa
04-27-2008, 09:53 PM
Great victory ,even tho the level wasn't the one i expected but who cares? :woohoo: :woohoo:

+100 at MIT http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/F%EAtes/ovation-saute.gif

platinum
04-27-2008, 11:00 PM
Congratulations Rafa, singles and doubles title, amazing! :worship::worship::worship::worship::worship:

Tnn74
04-28-2008, 12:15 AM
Vamooooooooooos Rafito! :woohoo: FINALLY!
i've been waitin' forever for that 10th crystal shield! :banana:

Mimi
04-28-2008, 02:48 AM
no guts to watch after seeing him trailing 0:4 in the second set, came back after 30 minutes and he won, what a magic :bowdown::dance::woohoo::woohoo::hug::yippee::nern er::music::banana::rocker::aparty:

tangerine_dream
04-28-2008, 03:38 AM
Big congrats to the Rafa and his fans on Rafa's historical wins in Monte Carlo. :aparty: What a comeback in that second set. And to win doubles too is fab. :bowdown:

Foxy
04-28-2008, 08:09 AM
:woohoo:At first I didn't realise that I've added my first points for MIT tournament. Thanks, Rafa!

Xoman
04-28-2008, 08:57 AM
Am I doing well at MIT or what! :D :woohoo: :banana: :dance:

Certainly.

So do I :D

RogiFan88
04-28-2008, 04:28 PM
Felicitaciones a Rafa!

Congratulations to Rafa on winning his fourth straight MC and also to the Ass Twins on winning their dobles!

Raf's confidence is on a high and he will most likely repeat his clay sweep again this year... who's to stop him? ;)

hra87
04-28-2008, 04:35 PM
Felicitaciones a Rafa!

Congratulations to Rafa on winning his fourth straight MC and also to the Ass Twins on winning their dobles!

Raf's confidence is on a high and he will most likely repeat his clay sweep again this year... who's to stop him? ;)

Lactic acid build up.

RogiFan88
04-28-2008, 04:45 PM
Lactic acid build up.

that's not a who, that's a what :p

the_natural
04-30-2008, 03:08 AM
LOL, I could see only the final 6-7 games and what I saw was beautiful. Roger looked tired to me, though. As if he was playing doubles not Rafa. But he played Estoril so that is maybe the reason or he could not endure Rafa's tempo.
Well done, Rafa!

I think its the latter honestly. You know Federer was also overratted for his performance in that match, They said he was "unplayable" for those first 4 games of the 2nd... No i watched it again, it was a combination of a FEW flashy brilliant shots from federer, he was just hitting his way out of trouble, that was IT, he was going for all his shots and just happened to get a few lucky shots back, then the rest was rafa having that weird concentration lapse that hes had all week, where he starts thinking and then starts to miss and then he moves 1 metre behind the baseline, People SAY that federer was being more aggressive and taking control, but in reality Rafa became more defensive so his shots lacked the usual sting which allowed federer to take the ball earlier/with less trouble and change direction and rafa was doing all the running, he was just scrambling for the ball and it was dropping short cos of how far back he was, and considering all that, Rafa still had a good hold deal of control over most of those games, alot of the time he was actually in a position where he could have hit a winner or he had federer in a bad position on the court and then made an unforced, case in point, the first 2 points of his first service game he hit a forehand (may have been 2 forehands) into the net trying to be very aggressive. that set the tone for hte next 4 games.

One thing i felt from that match was that even when federer was just playing nothing to lose tennis, and simply aiming for the open court and for extreme low percentage shots, it never felt like he really controlled rafa or that he was totally taking the play away from rafa, it felt more like something that he could only sustain for a short period of time and that if rafa fought back and stepped into the court and moved FORWARD when hitting. getting more pace spin depth whatever, then that game plan just wouldnt work. The great new thing with rafa is that is hitting through opponents on clay the way Blake/Youhzny hit through him on a hard court, I really feel that if rafa plays this great new brand of aggressive tennis that nobody can actually be aggressive against him on clay, Not davydenko not federer not hewitt as they all were last year, cos its just too difficult.

Also this time last year rafa woulda lost the second set, his return of serve is a huge factor now, hes not just putting it back with alot of spin hes taking more initiative when returning. This was the tough final he needed against a top player to shake off any remaining doubt he had about his abilities late in the tournaments

MariaV
04-30-2008, 09:24 AM
Nice post the _natural! :wavey: That's pretty much what Rafa also said in his presser that he got more passive at the start of the 2nd set and had this lapse of concentration, and of course it's always connected - one player steps back a little and the other player steps up, there was some brilliant hitting from Fed, gotta admit.

Aenea
04-30-2008, 03:04 PM
Hi :)

Congratulations to Rafa for winning both titles in MC. :bigclap: I knew he could do it. :D
Congratulations to you all, my fellow Rafafans :D

I'm very ...no, I'm extremely happy for Rafa and his titles. All of his matches were very exciting and the final was ... tense and still so beutiful. Especially when Rafa started winning every game after 0-4 in the second set. Unbelievable!! That was magic.

Rafa is definitely the best clay court player ever born and the undisputable king of Monte Carlo. :worship: