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I'm actually doing this... Why do you hate Marat? EVERYBODY! including his fans.

Vass
06-22-2004, 09:38 PM
Some of you have read my afternoon signature in which I wrote that I'm planning to open a new site: safinsucks.com. I have decided against it and back already... I love Marat, but I don't mind having a site on why I hate him too.
Anyway I'm doing a research and I will appreciate if you guys give me ideas on why you hate/dislike Marat and why someone else might hate/dislike Marat. Give me everything that you don't like in him. Even if you are a safinette or safinou, like me, you surely see something negative in him, no?

Thanks

Conchon
06-22-2004, 09:43 PM
I love Marat, and will follow him for the remainder of his career. However, I strongly dislike the fact that he takes what he has for granted. Obviously, he has forgotten about the rough climb up and where he started -- where others still are.

Fumus
06-22-2004, 09:46 PM
Yea I don't hate Safin, he's cool! I think he is great for the game, with his antics and his talent! I am disapointed in him is all. I wish he was around, I want him to play the best he can, and make the best matches. So I am sad, but, I don't hate Safin, I don't think anyone does...

maratski
06-22-2004, 09:49 PM
I don't think I need to tell you all the things I love about Marat, but here are a few things that can annoy me:
not giving credit to his opponents
not giving his all on court
thinking that his talent alone is enough to be a great player
staying with his management and all, who imo suck
not learning form his mistakes
having a big mouth and not backing it up with results

That's it i think ;)

Tennis Fool
06-22-2004, 10:00 PM
If you do a site, don't make it mean-spirited. Do it in a Marat-like spirit, lol. You know OAF, love him or hate him :D

Chloe le Bopper
06-22-2004, 10:38 PM
I think that Marat is an extremely likable character. But as much as I admire that tennis is not all their is in his life, I find it hard to root for him because sometimes I honestly feel like he just doesn't care. If he doesn't care about his results, why should I? On the other hand, when I see how he played through his matches at Roland Garros with chunks of skin hanging off his hands, and hear how bitter he sounds about his loss here... I think he does care. He just has an awfully weird way of showing it. He does seem to take a lot of things for granted, but again, I'm not sure that's being entirely fair to him. He's... complex. One second I have one thought about him, and then he turns around and does something that makes me doubt my initial reaction.

star
06-22-2004, 10:41 PM
I think always there are things about a favorite player that you don't like.... uh... I can't think of anything off hand that I don't like about Guga right now except that his hair is too short... but about my other favorites there are things that really aggravate me. I always think that I get more aggravated with my favorites than with other players because I really don't care that much about them.

Marat is a good guy... he's got a different world view than is normal among most tennis players and that makes him interesting. It also contributes to his lack of results. I think it's hard for him to take winning tennis matches seriously. He seems to be caught up in the absurdity of life in an almost fatalistic way. I've got sympathy for him. But you know, if he doesn't care about tennis or his career, I can't really get up for caring one way or the other about it either.

Leo
06-22-2004, 10:47 PM
Poor attitude.

Deboogle!.
06-22-2004, 11:16 PM
Well I don't hate Marat.

The problem is that I'm fairly new (within the past year) to following tennis really closely. So my first exposure to Marat was the AO and I was like "wow he's exactly what I like in a player. Talented, charismatic, funny, powerful, interesting".....so I started to really like him but then lately it's all the stuff that's already been mentioned.

If i'd been a fan since the beginning, I don't think I'd be able to turn my back on him so I totally understand where you guys are coming from, but for me the crap he's been saying lately unfortunately outweighs all the great things I saw at the AO. I think it's sad. I feel for him and I feel bad for you guys who want so badly to support him. I hope he can find it within himself to turn it around while he still can.

akin
06-22-2004, 11:32 PM
No matter what he does he is LOVABLE...yeah yeah...he says he is not coming back to Wimbledon. :) See you next year baby! We love you too!! :)

Lindsayfan
06-22-2004, 11:32 PM
he doesnt understand that tennis doesnt last forever and life doesnt always give u a second chance. one day he'll regret on giving up so easily. the day when he'll finally become mature and he'll be focused on tennis, maybe he will not be able to play at his best level (cos of age, cos others r simply stronger or cos of injuries). :sad:

Havok
06-22-2004, 11:59 PM
Enjoy his game, got a nice personality, but the overuse of the word "luck" as the key to whoever won the match drives me up the wall :tape:

Denise
06-23-2004, 05:08 AM
I love Marat! :kiss: He's not just cool! He's ADORABLE... wonderful! with an incrediable personality etc. Ho my Gosh, I really do love him. Anyways, I know his carrer has been pretty tough... specially this last months that he hadn't the best results. I know that some fans are quite desesperated as well, and like I guess he must feel this way too, but I think, I really do think that is possible all these things we were waiting for... THE TITLE!! but unfortunately is not that easy :sad: oki, maybe for marat seems not too possible but it is not impossible!!! MARAT! U can do it! Believe on you baby!!

Denise
06-23-2004, 05:17 AM
Well I don't hate Marat.

The problem is that I'm fairly new (within the past year) to following tennis really closely. So my first exposure to Marat was the AO and I was like "wow he's exactly what I like in a player. Talented, charismatic, funny, powerful, interesting".....so I started to really like him but then lately it's all the stuff that's already been mentioned.

If i'd been a fan since the beginning, I don't think I'd be able to turn my back on him so I totally understand where you guys are coming from, but for me the crap he's been saying lately unfortunately outweighs all the great things I saw at the AO. I think it's sad. I feel for him and I feel bad for you guys who want so badly to support him. I hope he can find it within himself to turn it around while he still can.

great words bunk, great words! ;)

alfonsojose
06-23-2004, 05:22 AM
hate threads :rolleyes: Better post naked pictures of Safin ;)

Denise
06-23-2004, 05:32 AM
hate threads :rolleyes: Better post naked pictures of Safin ;)

Whaaaaaaaaaaat???????? Alfonso????????? :lol:

Toppu
06-23-2004, 05:38 AM
he doesnt understand that tennis doesnt last forever and life doesnt always give u a second chance. one day he'll regret on giving up so easily. the day when he'll finally become mature and he'll be focused on tennis, maybe he will not be able to play at his best level (cos of age, cos others r simply stronger or cos of injuries).


well said. And I agree. :worship: I like him. But I'm always disappointed to see him lose that way. In that match against Dmitry he was leading one set and a break. I remembered, but losing the second and third easily. And in the fourth set he was a break ahead but still managed to lose the set and match. If he focuses more, he could have won 3 grand slams, not just one. :angel:

Fee
06-23-2004, 06:01 AM
Well, I've never been the biggest Marat fan, but I pay more attention to him these days because my site designer has a site for him. It was quite interesting to read the comments of his loyal followers today. It is frustrating, as a tennis fan in general, to see that kind of talent go to waste for no apparent reason. It is especially frustrating to me, knowing that if a hard working player like JanMike had half of Marat's talent, he might have won a few important titles by now.

Marat has so much passion, it would be a wonderful thing for all of us if he could focus it on his tennis game.

Aurora
06-23-2004, 10:07 AM
I don't think I need to tell you all the things I love about Marat, but here are a few things that can annoy me:
not giving credit to his opponents
not giving his all on court
thinking that his talent alone is enough to be a great player
staying with his management and all, who imo suck
not learning form his mistakes
having a big mouth and not backing it up with results

That's it i think ;)

plus: blaming everything and everyone except himself


having a big mouth and not backing it up with results

That really got to me yesterday, shouting at the tv and all. Wanting the nr1 is one thing, but you gotta make that happen at every match you play (anyone saw Coria fighting like a raging bull? he hates grass just as much I bet), you're not gonna get that status gifted just like no one hands you a match "even" if you're a set and a break up. :rolleyes:

maratski
06-23-2004, 10:11 AM
plus: blaming everything and everyone except himself


I can't believe I forgot to mention the most important one :o

*Ljubica*
06-23-2004, 10:19 AM
I'm not a Marat fan myself but I definately don't hate him. He brings a charisma and an excitement to the court that is sadly lacking these days. I think all his injury problems last year affected him more than anyone realised - both emotionally and mentally as well as physically. I wish him all the best.

gina_
06-23-2004, 10:27 AM
Wow that's odd.

Well, I like Marat as far as it goes. I think he's tempremental and childish but at least he wears his heart on his sleeve and there's always that element of crazy unpredictability and emotion that makes the circuit more colorful. I think he's a good guy...just way too stubborn sometimes...but thats Marat. Makes him who he is.

Lalitha
06-23-2004, 10:44 AM
People remember you for winning. Not for being charismatic or dramatic or exciting or whatever. John Mac (annoyingly) had all this but he won matches too.

The thing why Marat has this love-hate thing from every one is, if you really love tennis - it is very disappointing to see such a natural talent go waste. It makes you angry because he's got a chance not many get (more precisely that we don't get) and he is blewing it off.

safinaferrero
06-23-2004, 03:12 PM
i hate when doesn't fight when he has the atitude like he has already lost :( :(

safinaferrero
06-23-2004, 03:16 PM
MARATSKI GOOD TO SEE THAT U PUT OUR COMUN FLAG :bounce: :bounce: :) :bigclap: :bigclap: :clap2: :clap2:

maratski
06-23-2004, 03:33 PM
I'm heading to Morocco in a few weeks time so I'm already getting in the mood :)

star
06-23-2004, 03:34 PM
:woohoo: Morroco! Sunshine! Desert!! Music!

Sounds wonderful. :)

maratski
06-23-2004, 03:36 PM
I will ask my friends and family there if they know more good singers ;)

It'll be six weeks without internet and tennis, but I think I can survive ;)

star
06-23-2004, 03:40 PM
I think you can too. I think it will be a wonderful immersion in family and tastes and smells and a different way of being. :)

It will be a great vacation.

maratski
06-23-2004, 03:55 PM
I'm so bored this afternoon and am watching the BBC all day. I've finally seen the Weakest Link Tennis edition and have to say that Andy was pretty funny at times, but shame on him on not knowing the answers to some easy questions lol. Even I knew them and my native language is not english :o

safinaferrero
06-23-2004, 03:57 PM
ME TOO im going for 2 month only sunshine:) sunshine :)friends :)tajine :)lhammashoui :)music fun!!!!! im going in less than 2 weeks great btw what's ur name??? me Amal

safinaferrero
06-23-2004, 03:59 PM
i will missed the US OPEN but good i won't see a poor marat's loss in 1rst round like yesterday

maratski
06-23-2004, 04:11 PM
My real name is Ilhame

Alisa
06-23-2004, 04:11 PM
i love marat and i don't hate him at all. we r all human and make mistakes.

i love him not only when he wins but when he looses 2, cause that's all marat!!

amethyst
06-23-2004, 04:25 PM
I like Marat - otherwise he wouldn´t make so angry sometimes ;) - and I agree with many things said above. He must realize he can´t live up to his talent without working for it or making more efforts. And he´s old enough to know that a job of any kind is not always fun!

Alisa
06-23-2004, 04:32 PM
i agree with marat that job is not the only thing in the world, you shouldn't concentrate on it so much : there r some other sides of life.

u want him to entertain u but he also has his private life, that he wants to spent with his family and friends.

star
06-23-2004, 04:42 PM
I'm so bored this afternoon and am watching the BBC all day. I've finally seen the Weakest Link Tennis edition and have to say that Andy was pretty funny at times, but shame on him on not knowing the answers to some easy questions lol. Even I knew them and my native language is not english :o

You mean you know the word "ewe?" :lol:

safinaferrero
06-23-2004, 04:44 PM
Ah ur name is Ilhame like my cousin alikoumoussalam

maratski
06-23-2004, 04:56 PM
I knew the word starting with the letter T was twisted and not sprained ;)

Yasmine
06-23-2004, 05:21 PM
I think watching Marat is great fun!
How many players have you seen taking their short down or counting the blisters in their hands??? At least he's showing some personnality on the court and although it might not be of everyone's taste I think it's great!

joeb_uk
06-23-2004, 05:36 PM
bad motivation
laziness
whining after he loses
blaming the loss on some other thing

:D