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Michael Llodra (FRA) outguns Coria 6-3 6-4 for his 1st singles career title!!!

Neely
06-20-2004, 01:10 PM
I'm very happy for Llodra that he got his 1st singles career title now because it was very obvious that the Frenchman has lifted his (singles) game a lot.

I think he is also a very smart and smooth player if you see him moving on the court!

He made his 1st singles final in Adelaide at the beginning of this year and now he got his first singles title in just his 2nd singles career final.

Congrats to him!!! :worship:


Also appreciation to Coria for this great run on grass and a final!
He showed that his is willing to perform well on every surface! Good achievement!

-wokkel-
06-20-2004, 01:10 PM
It was a great final, between 2 WC-players!

Neely
06-20-2004, 01:13 PM
It was a great final, between 2 WC-players!
wow... yes, the combination Coria and Llodra was certainly a very surprising one :eek:

CmonAussie
06-20-2004, 01:16 PM
@@ Congrats to Llodra~ nice job proving he's much more than a Doubles player!!

Coria seems to be a bit of a choker in Finals~ especially this year he's had a disappointing record:
Buenos Aires = Won, Miami-TMS = Lost, MC-TMS = Won, Hamburg-TMS = Lost, French Open = Lost, Rosmalen = Lost...>_<

* So Coria is 2/4 in Finals in 04 & losing 3-in-a-row won't help his confidence!

Marine
06-20-2004, 01:18 PM
:worship: First title in single for Micka, that's great !!!!!!!!!!! :worship:

I wish him the best for Wimbledon :D :D

tennyfan
06-20-2004, 01:19 PM
Congrats to Llodra on his first singles title. Also, congrats to Coria for honing his grass game and making it to the finals.

Neely
06-20-2004, 01:20 PM
* So Coria is 2/4 in Finals in 04 & losing 3-in-a-row won't help his confidence!
yes, but concerning Coria, you have to consider that this final today was not on clay or on hardcourt, but on grass, a surface where he never had much success so far, and so he should see this final appearance already as a BIG ACHIEVEMENT. I think it makes a difference if Coria loses a final on clay or on grass and I'm sure he can deal with this loss as the final on grass is already a success whereas he is almost doomed to win a final on clay because he is (usually) the big favorite there.

Action Jackson
06-20-2004, 01:20 PM
Well done Llodra and keep on the improvement. Congrats to Coria, it was a surprise that he made a grass final, but now he has made finals on all surfaces except indoor hard, but that will come in the future.

Marine
06-20-2004, 01:22 PM
Well done Llodra and keep on the improvement. Congrats to Coria, it was a surprise that he made a grass final, but now he has made finals on all surfaces except indoor hard, but that will come in the future.

Oh please, not in Bercy, thanks ! :p

Action Jackson
06-20-2004, 01:25 PM
Oh please, not in Bercy, thanks ! :p

I am surprised that you aren't criticising me for being anti-French. :)
Anyway, I see that Coria will make a final on indoor hard, but Paris is carpet actually and he has already done that in Basle, so don't worry.

star
06-20-2004, 01:28 PM
@@ Congrats to Llodra~ nice job proving he's much more than a Doubles player!!

Coria seems to be a bit of a choker in Finals~ especially this year he's had a disappointing record:
Buenos Aires = Won, Miami-TMS = Lost, MC-TMS = Won, Hamburg-TMS = Lost, French Open = Lost, Rosmalen = Lost...>_<

* So Coria is 2/4 in Finals in 04 & losing 3-in-a-row won't help his confidence!

I think RG might be considered a choke. I don't know for sure though. But in Miami, Guille had kidney stones and had to retire. I don't think that can count as a choke. In Hamburg, he played Federer in the final. Federer is someone who can beat any player on any surface, so I don't think that can be called a choke. As for Rosmalen, he played on grass and the day before he played two singles matches. I'll reserve judgement on this question, maybe you are right, but maybe not. :)

Anyway, I'm happy for Guille that he showed up and was brave about playing on grass and had some good results. :)

melx
06-20-2004, 01:35 PM
Neely, thats a good topic, nice that you think of Llodra winning this title. Are u a Llodra or Coria fan?

tennischick
06-20-2004, 01:35 PM
it's not fair to call Coria a choker. he was outfoxed by Gaudio who dragged out the game to five sets knowing that Coria would run out of steam. Against Verkerk the year before, he was simply dominated by the big server and was flat had run out of steam after he got thru beating Agassi. his problem is fitness IMO. he has too strong a will to win and too high a level of self-confidence to ever be a choker IMO.

congrats to LLodra AND Coria. to sexy LLodra :lick: for winning his first title, and to Coria for showing the world that he is NOT just a dirtballer. :D

Sjengster
06-20-2004, 01:38 PM
Llodra's Leconte-inspired style is great to watch and he did a good job of imposing himself upon Coria early in both sets, and even when he lost the break in the second he did well to stay level and break again at 4-4. After the Hantuchova/Johansson chokes yesterday I was expecting something similar, but he served out very convincingly to love. I was surprised that Coria had made the final in a tournament that has as many poor bounces as the Rosmalen court does, and that showed today, he was complaining about the state of the court most of the time instead of focusing on the job. Even so, he made some good forays to the net and Llodra won the match by putting the pressure on at the right moments, rather than Coria losing it.

Aleksa's Laydee
06-20-2004, 01:38 PM
yeah... well done llodra..great win :D

Sjengster
06-20-2004, 01:42 PM
Well, with that Basel title it was obvious Coria isn't just a dirtballer - in fact if he'd won today he'd now have indoor carpet and grass titles before hardcourt ones, which is pretty unusual for someone at their best on clay. How about that suck-up from Llodra in his acceptance speech when asked about Euro 2004, though? "I hope the Netherlands get through to play France in the final... and I hope it's a good final." Smart man!

Action Jackson
06-20-2004, 01:46 PM
Well, with that Basel title it was obvious Coria isn't just a dirtballer - in fact if he'd won today he'd now have indoor carpet and grass titles before hardcourt ones, which is pretty unusual for someone at their best on clay. How about that suck-up from Llodra in his acceptance speech when asked about Euro 2004, though? "I hope the Netherlands get through to play France in the final... and I hope it's a good final." Smart man!

Yes, well some people just think Argentina and dirtballer. It's a bit unusual that he made a grass final and beat Ancic on grass which I didn't think he would. As for the acceptance speech I would be happy, if they didn't make it, but it was good PR and hopefully he can continue the improvement in his singles.

Neely
06-20-2004, 01:51 PM
Are u a Llodra or Coria fan?
neither nor, dude!... and don't worry, I'm not turning into a Llodra fan all of sudden because he won a tournament now ;) ... just thought that every first title deserves an own topic and that Llodra's improved singles play since that year deserves some credit :cool:

*Ljubica*
06-20-2004, 02:10 PM
Congrats to Llodra - and no I'm not a fan of his but it's nice to see new faces winning sometimes :)

And as for Coria "winning" the title in Basel - remembering all the people who said Gaudio only won Roland Garros by default due to Coria's injury - how many seem to have forgotten that the Basel "victory" was definately only by default because David didn't even play! Having said that, before all the Coria fans attack me, I'm sure Coria WILL win a title on another surface other then clay one day - he is certainly improving on all surfaces this year and showed some character playing on grass this season and doing so well at Rosmalen.

Snoopy_Girl
06-20-2004, 02:17 PM
Wahoooo! :woohoo: Micka! :bounce: Great win! His play was absolutely great to watch!:worship: I saw the final on tv and it was very good :). Coria could have had a better shot at the second set if he didn't let himself get angry with every little thing, but ok, Micka was my fave already anyway. I do have to congratulate Coria on making it to the final. Great run on grass! :D

User ID 4783
06-20-2004, 02:39 PM
Congrats to the two of them, I didn't expect Coria to reach a grass court final... :rolleyes:

Peta Pan
06-20-2004, 03:17 PM
YAY Congratulations to Michael!!!

I'm very happy for him having his first tournament win :yippee:

:)Peta

COMA
06-20-2004, 04:12 PM
Llodra :eek:
Congrats! :yeah:

Daniel
06-20-2004, 04:20 PM
Guille :sad:

jirobkk
06-20-2004, 04:25 PM
Well done Michael Llodra :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: Hope this is the first of many more to come.

Carito_90
06-20-2004, 04:42 PM
Having said that, before all the Coria fans attack me

Oops, too late :)

Look, David might have won that title if he would have played it. He didn't. Guille played the same amount of matches as David and I think that if he's good enough to reach the finals, then he deserves the title IMO.
When a player wins a title, it's because of 'something'. Not just random luck. We are no one to determinate whether a player deserves a title/win or not because, as I said before, they always win because of 'something'. (We can always give our opinions tho, but who can tell what's right and what's wrong?)

Anyway :)
I'm, not dissapointed, but sad because Coria didn't get to win the title. I thought he was going to, playing at that level he's been playing the whole week.
Still, congrats to Llodra on his first single title :)

undomiele
06-20-2004, 04:44 PM
Congrats llodra! Its always great to see someone new win a tourny. :yeah:

And Im impressed with Coria, I always knew he would do better on grass this year than years past -- he's been a surprising player (both good and bad) for a solid year now. I hope he goes as far as he can at Wimbledon!

star
06-20-2004, 05:01 PM
Well, see, I have a little bit of a bitter taste about Llorda because he killed a bird on purpose by hitting a ball at it during a match. It wasn't just an accident.

But, other than that, he's a player who has been playing a lot and it's nice that he gets to go through a week of singles play without losing.

I hope both he and Guille get to England in a big hurry and are ready to play well there.

Denise
06-20-2004, 05:27 PM
congrats to Llodra!! :wavey: it's great he finally won his first title... and over Coria it's even more exciting!!

Lady
06-20-2004, 05:31 PM
Llodra killed the bird on purpose? :eek: When?

Marc Rosset is Tall
06-20-2004, 05:33 PM
Llodra killed the bird on purpose? :eek: When?

It was at the Australian Open, and I have doubts whether it was on purpose.

star
06-20-2004, 05:42 PM
Yeah. It was. It was in the press conferences

Birds were flying down low on the court the whole match. Before he did it, Llorda told his partner, I'm going to kill one of those birds. And then he hit a ball at one of the birds.

And I think it was Boutter on the other side came over and gave mock last rites to the bird. Which was a little bit comical.

But, maybe Llorda was only pretending to have meant to hit the bird.

Marc Rosset is Tall
06-20-2004, 05:48 PM
Considering it was a very tense doubles match, it would be more than likely they would be wanting to win the match, than hitting a house martin bird chasing a moth.

Well Boutter, Clement, Santoro and Llodra all took part in the ritual. It depends on your sense of humor as to whether Llodra did it deliberately, you don't see the facial actions in a press conference.

star
06-20-2004, 05:55 PM
Why would it depend on my sense of humor as to whether Llorda did it deliberately?

He either did or didn't. My sense of humor has nothing to do with it. Even if I thought it was uproariously funny to kill a bird (on purpose or not), it wouldn't mean he did it on purpose or not.

I thought the last rites thing was humorous. I thought it was all a lot more humorous until I read that Llorda was looking for his chance to hit a bird.

Marc Rosset is Tall
06-20-2004, 06:13 PM
Why would it depend on my sense of humor as to whether Llorda did it deliberately?

He either did or didn't. My sense of humor has nothing to do with it. Even if I thought it was uproariously funny to kill a bird (on purpose or not), it wouldn't mean he did it on purpose or not.

I thought the last rites thing was humorous. I thought it was all a lot more humorous until I read that Llorda was looking for his chance to hit a bird.

Well ok, you can read a press transcript and wouldn't be any wiser especially if Llodra said that it was deliberate with a totally deadpan facial expression, when it wasn't the case.

Whose to say Santoro wasn't joking with press with that particular comment, and it was he not Llodra himself that said Llodra was aiming to hit a bird.

Havok
06-20-2004, 06:56 PM
the double standards i've read in this thread are hysterical :bigcry:

anyways congrats to both players, well done :yeah:

Action Jackson
06-20-2004, 06:59 PM
the double standards i've read in this thread are hysterical :bigcry::

What more so than usual? I know what I posted was fair, as I am not a fan of either of them, congratulating Llodra for winning and Coria for making a final on grass. No, I don't want a medal for such objectivity.

Marine
06-20-2004, 07:02 PM
If Llodra really killed the bird on purpose, so he deserves the title of the greatest player of the century ! :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
06-20-2004, 07:05 PM
If Llodra really killed the bird on purpose, so he deserves the title of the greatest player of the century ! :rolleyes:

You would put that bird into a bird soup. :)

Frommage A Trois
06-20-2004, 07:10 PM
Congratulations Llodra for his 1st title and to Coria, this will give them some confidence for Wimbledon, though I hear there is plenty of rain about Wimbledon.

I wonder which frommage would go well with house martin?

YoursTruly
06-20-2004, 07:45 PM
I saw the result in the news, and when I saw it, I felt that it was an unbelievable result! Winning the title and beating someone like Coria to win it! But I just learned that it was Michael's first singles title!!!! I'm usually aware of player's achievements but I thought Michael would have already a title because he's a great player. I saw it when I first watched him play Pete live in 2000 at the MTS here (lost in third-set breaker). This is good, he's not only a doubles-specialist but all-game, all-around. I think he is pulling a "Paola" :lol: Congratulations to Michael!

Billabong
06-20-2004, 09:30 PM
Congrats to Llodra:)!

akin
06-20-2004, 09:30 PM
Yeah Llodra! :armed: Kille those birds baby!! :armed: Llodra goes hunting with his raquet... :devil: ...After this incident the democrats are thinking to ban tennis raquets in the US! :timebomb:

Fedex
06-20-2004, 10:01 PM
...After this incident the democrats are thinking to ban tennis raquets in the US! :timebomb:
:( :mad: :o :rolleyes:

Aerien
06-21-2004, 02:51 PM
Michael.
My boy, a winner. :sad:
So proud. :crying2:

Havok
06-21-2004, 03:04 PM
What more so than usual? I know what I posted was fair, as I am not a fan of either of them, congratulating Llodra for winning and Coria for making a final on grass. No, I don't want a medal for such objectivity.
Did i mention your name in my post? No, I didn't mention anybody's names, so thanks :bigwave: