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Federer and Nalbandian to play Stockholm Open

Tennistalk
02-13-2008, 11:47 AM
I am at a press conference held by If Stockholm Open, they just announced that they have signed Federer and Nalbandian for this year's edition of the tournament :D

http://www.tennistalk.com/en/news/20080213/Federer_to_play_If_Stockholm_Open

Rommella
02-13-2008, 11:52 AM
Good to see he's adding another optional, in case the points race gets tight.

bokehlicious
02-13-2008, 11:52 AM
Estoril, Stockholm... Play the Geneva challenger as well Roger :rolleyes: :o

nobama
02-13-2008, 12:21 PM
Estoril, Stockholm... Play the Geneva challenger as well Roger :rolleyes: :o
Maybe now people will stop bitching about Roger not playing enough optionals. But I suppose until they actually see him there they won't believe it.

paule
02-13-2008, 01:47 PM
his schedule will be crazy in october ! he doesn't like that normally. 4 tournaments in 4 weeks : that's stupid !
maybe he is more worried about his first place than what he says ...
but that's not good for his body.
i don't like that at all ...

BlueSwan
02-13-2008, 02:01 PM
As I wrote in the general forum, he'll probably play Stockholm and Madrid, then bow out of Basel due to exhaustion and then play Paris.

bokehlicious
02-13-2008, 02:08 PM
Why play Stockholm over Basel? :confused: Plus I thought he was under contract with Basel :shrug:

Utter nonsense...

Or Levy
02-13-2008, 02:21 PM
He won't drop Basel.

Stockholm is a weird desicion, though. Why sign up now, he can always sign up later/get a WC if he sees it is getting tight on points for the Year end number 1.

Fergie
02-13-2008, 03:00 PM
Weird desicion :help:

graciewx
02-13-2008, 04:51 PM
Indeed, he's sending the signal that "I'm doing everything to defend my No.1 ranking".

Sunset of Age
02-13-2008, 04:56 PM
Indeed, he's sending the signal that "I'm doing everything to defend my No.1 ranking".

Sure looks like that!

Which is weird for now, as the season has only just started - Stockholm is WAY away from now, there's first Dubai/IW/Miami AND the whole clay court season coming up - why not wait and see how he'll be doing there first before signing up to an optional in October? :confused:

As much as I like him to play more optionals, it sure sounds like there's a bit of panicking going on in the Fed camp. Hope I'm wrong about this, of course.

Perhaps the Stockholm TD offered him a very nice pay cheque indeed. :angel:

ExpectedWinner
02-13-2008, 05:16 PM
Why play Stockholm over Basel? :confused: Plus I thought he was under contract with Basel :shrug:

Utter nonsense...

Sentimental reasons aside, the timing of Basel is very inconvenient.

Or Levy
02-13-2008, 05:24 PM
We don't know he'll drop Basel.

There's no way that would be this choice, I don't see Roger making a choice like that, I just don't.

ExpectedWinner
02-13-2008, 05:32 PM
Which is weird for now, as the season has only just started - Stockholm is WAY away from now, there's first Dubai/IW/Miami AND the whole clay court season coming up - why not wait and see how he'll be doing there first before signing up to an optional in October? :confused:



Well, if he does nothing or very little in Dubai/IW/Miami/on clay, Stockholm will be useless (is this what are you hoping for?).
It's obvious that he'll not be winning all hc events this year. Thus, maintaining his ranking without playing (preferably winning) 5 optionals is impossible.
Btw, WCs are not always available. In 1998 Sampras had to borrow a WC from Becker.

Eden
02-13-2008, 05:37 PM
Perhaps the Stockholm TD offered him a very nice pay cheque indeed. :angel:

I don't think money is a deciding factor for Roger to arrange his schedule. If this would be the case he would surely play more tournaments a year ;)

The tournament in Stockholm is celebrating its 40th year anniversary and his decision to participate there this year has maybe to do with it :shrug:

SUKTUEN
02-13-2008, 05:50 PM
Roger will drop Basel? No way~~~
this news he agree? but this tour don't show in his schedule:p

bokehlicious
02-13-2008, 05:50 PM
Sentimental reasons aside, the timing of Basel is very inconvenient.

True, but if his ranking is not at stake at that time I think it's a good enough reason :shrug:

Sunset of Age
02-13-2008, 06:34 PM
Well, if he does nothing or very little in Dubai/IW/Miami/on clay, Stockholm will be useless (is this what are you hoping for?)

Stockholm, in that case, will be as useless any other tournament he adds to his schedule. I hope for quite the contrary, btw - that he'll be able to defend his points in Dubai and during the clayseason to a reasonable extent (I don't expect him to defend all of them to be honest), and that he might be able to add a few points by doing well in IW and Miami. Should he manage that he'll at least secure his position before RG and Wimbly.

Then, if he manages to do well there, he can still decide whether it's time to add an additional tournament or not. So in all - this decision, made some 9 months in advance, is rather puzzling to me.

I don't think money is a deciding factor for Roger to arrange his schedule. If this would be the case he would surely play more tournaments a year ;)

The tournament in Stockholm is celebrating its 40th year anniversary and his decision to participate there this year has maybe to do with it :shrug:

I know Roger has plenty in his wallet - I was just trying to find reasons. :p
Ah, that 40th year anniversary - that at least makes some sense, IMHO. Thanks for the info!

ExpectedWinner
02-13-2008, 06:45 PM
Then, if he manages to do well there, he can still decide whether it's time to add an additional tournament or not. So in all - this decision, made some 9 months in advance, is rather puzzling to me.




I thought that last season showed that staying No1 at the end of the year without playing optionals is a very difficult/risky task. Sorry, I don't have enough time for math lessons.

I'm sure, both TFA and Djoker are planning to play at least 5 optionals. Until Fed admits that he's a senior citizen of the tour (gives up on the ranking), it shouldn't be any different for him.

What's the fuss about planning 9 month in advance? So, it's ok for Nadal, Djoker, Murray to plan their numerous optionals 12 month in advance, but it's not OK for Fed to plan his 5 optionals 9 month in advance?

nobama
02-13-2008, 06:55 PM
Sure looks like that!

Which is weird for now, as the season has only just started - Stockholm is WAY away from now, there's first Dubai/IW/Miami AND the whole clay court season coming up - why not wait and see how he'll be doing there first before signing up to an optional in October? :confused:

As much as I like him to play more optionals, it sure sounds like there's a bit of panicking going on in the Fed camp. Hope I'm wrong about this, of course.

Perhaps the Stockholm TD offered him a very nice pay cheque indeed. :angel:
I do remember last summer when things were tight some were saying it wouldn't kill Roger to play an optional (like Indy). I don't think signing up for an event that's happening in October is panicking. But I do think it's a bit odd it wasn't on the schedule he released...so maybe the 40th anniversary of the event has something to do with him playing (and a nice appearance fee of course) and it wasn't something he originally had planned into his schedule? :shrug:

nobama
02-13-2008, 07:02 PM
I'm sure, both TFA and Djoker are planning to play at least 5 optionals.That might come back to bite them the arse this year. Of course they can always withdraw from an event with some bogus illness/injury.....like what Djoker did last year in Thailand.

Sunset of Age
02-13-2008, 07:02 PM
I do remember last summer when things were tight some were saying it wouldn't kill Roger to play an optional (like Indy). I don't think signing up for an event that's happening in October is panicking. But I do think it's a bit odd it wasn't on the schedule he released...so maybe the 40th anniversary of the event has something to do with him playing (and a nice appearance fee of course) and it wasn't something he originally had planned into his schedule? :shrug:

Oh, I absolutely agree on the need for him to play some extra optionals when things are getting tough - but I just don't see the reason for him to sign up now already (as the season has barely started off) - unless it's indeed the 40th anniversary of the tournament. His appearance over there would surely be a nice addition to the festivities and of course, it's very nice of him to do so. I'm pretty sure he'll indeed recieve a nice cheque, too.

I guess if all of it is true, he'll surely come up with some sort of an explanation himself.

ExpectedWinner
02-13-2008, 07:07 PM
That might come back to bite them the arse this year. Of course they can always withdraw from an event with some bogus illness/injury.....like what Djoker did last year in Thailand.

Come on, players in their early 20s should be able to handle 5 optionals if they spread out them well. Btw, it's not the problem that Fed adds optionals, the problem is that he doesn't spread out them in the best way possible (imo).

didadida
02-13-2008, 10:25 PM
i think the problem is the timming of the tournament
how he could play 4 tournaments in 4 weeks october will be overloaded for roger
and i dont think that roger will withdraw from basel
i dont think this is a right decision for him
he can add the optional tournaments between dubai and IW and Miami

yanchr
02-14-2008, 12:58 AM
Indeed, he's sending the signal that "I'm doing everything to defend my No.1 ranking".
To me as well.

Skipping Basel would be the best solution to the over-tight schedule during that period, but I doubt it.

rosamunda
02-14-2008, 01:22 AM
I don't think Roger is into panic - perhaps we are, but not him, I think. If he were that concerned about his No 1 ranking, I'd have thought he'd throw in some optionals now rather than later - it's as tight as it's ever been at the moment, though he can gain plenty of points in IW and Miami. He's always been very careful and wise with his scheduling, so I see no reason to question his judgement now. Perhaps he just fancies a week in Scandinavia...... and he's said before how much he likes the indoor season.

Federerhingis
02-14-2008, 01:38 AM
Sure looks like that!

Which is weird for now, as the season has only just started - Stockholm is WAY away from now, there's first Dubai/IW/Miami AND the whole clay court season coming up - why not wait and see how he'll be doing there first before signing up to an optional in October? :confused:

As much as I like him to play more optionals, it sure sounds like there's a bit of panicking going on in the Fed camp. Hope I'm wrong about this, of course.

Perhaps the Stockholm TD offered him a very nice pay cheque indeed. :angel:

I am digging this last sentence, but Roger is not a gold digger, he's got plenty of cash in his bank account. Maybe there are some sentimental attachments for Roger in Sweden his former coach was swedish wasnt he Lundgren, so who knows. It would be stupid if he chosed Stockholm over Basel, are they worth the same amount of points? No, so it really would make no sense, unless he wants to officially visit Stockholm, he has said in the past that he enjoys playing tournies held in cities he has never visited, perhaps he wants to continue growing his fandom. ;)

RogerFan82
02-14-2008, 02:32 AM
Maybe he'll pull out or tank in Madrid. Isn't Madrid turning into a clay event next year??? So it'll be 3 events in 4 weeks which is fine, i guess. I also feel he'll pull out or tank in hamburg since it won't be a Masters event next year. So that'll leave him well rested before the FO. Anyway great to see Roger playing more optionals!!! Go TMF!!!

SUKTUEN
02-14-2008, 03:45 PM
Roger will not go to all these 4 tour~~
I think he will not go to Paris.

nobama
02-14-2008, 06:58 PM
With these bonuses in place now it will be hard for the top players to skip a masters event. Of course Roger doesn't need the cash but that doesn't matter. Tiger Woods doesn't either but he still shows up in Dubai to collect his $5M appearance fee....

anon57
02-14-2008, 08:30 PM
It's good that he's adding some optionals to his schedule. Allthough I'm not sure planning 4 tournaments in four weeks is a great idea butt I guess with the planning of the schedule with the clay MS closer together, the adding of Estoril to his schedule and the Olympics the best place for an additional optional probably is indoor season.

rofe
02-14-2008, 10:04 PM
I don't think it is a big deal to add it as an optional since it is not known at this point whether he will play it or not. Adding this as an optional to keep the #1 ranking really doesn't make sense since poor performances in the tournaments preceding it could easily take away his #1 ranking. I would have liked him to play Rotterdam if he is serious about his #1 ranking since he can add points there and he has had success in that tournament.

Sunset of Age
02-14-2008, 10:21 PM
I would have liked him to play Rotterdam if he is serious about his #1 ranking since he can add points there and he has had success in that tournament.

Me too. Would've made more sense than him adding Stockholm (for which the only explanation I can find is 1) 40 years anniversary of the tournament, and 2) big bucks :tape:). I know Richard Krajicek has been trying really hard to get him included on the appearance list this year, but apparently for whatever reason, it wasn't meant to be. Bah. :(

Hopefully next year, when the Rotterdam tournament will be upgraded to a '500'-tournament (yeah, idiotic name, all thanks to Mr. Disney... :mad:).

nobama
02-15-2008, 12:06 AM
This is OT but I see that Djoker tanked out of Marseille today. :rolleyes: That's one thing I respect Roger for...he doesn't tank or throw away matches. Yeah he has stinkers like 06 Cincy and 07 Rome, but he doesn't intentionally tank. I can't stand when players just show up, play a round or two, take their appearance fee and leave. I don't mind seeing Ego King lose though. :devil:

Sunset of Age
02-15-2008, 12:11 AM
This is OT but I see that Djoker tanked out of Marseille today. :rolleyes: That's one thing I respect Roger for...he doesn't tank or throw away matches. Yeah he has stinkers like 06 Cincy and 07 Rome, but he doesn't intentionally tank. I can't stand when players just show up, play a round or two, take their appearance fee and leave. I don't mind seeing Ego King lose though. :devil:

Well I watched the complete match, and yes, Marseille!Djoko was a very different one from AO!Djoko, but I'm not sure if he actually TANKED the match. If so, why not throw the towel at the end of the second set? Why the :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: medical time-out in the third?

Do know I don't like Mr. Fakervich at ALL. But I just can't see this as a tank job, he would've been able to bolt out a lot easier than he in fact did.

But well, in the end - Mr. Ego NEW King losing doesn't mind me in the least, of course. :devil:

ExpectedWinner
02-15-2008, 05:34 AM
Adding this as an optional to keep the #1 ranking really doesn't make sense since poor performances in the tournaments preceding it could easily take away his #1 ranking.

If after the USO it's a tight 3 men race for the No1, then points from Stockholm and /or Basel can make a difference. Sampras who was obsessed with the No1 finish at the of the year, liked to inflate his points indoors.
If after the USO Fed is not in contention/or far behind in the race for the No1, he will not bother with Stockholm/ probably some other tournaments as well (IMO).

Or Levy
02-15-2008, 01:41 PM
Not in contention? I think it is a bit early in the year to start fretting about Roger NOT BEING IN CONTENTION for the number 1 spot.

:confused:

nobama
02-15-2008, 01:53 PM
Well I watched the complete match, and yes, Marseille!Djoko was a very different one from AO!Djoko, but I'm not sure if he actually TANKED the match. If so, why not throw the towel at the end of the second set? Why the :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: medical time-out in the third?

Do know I don't like Mr. Fakervich at ALL. But I just can't see this as a tank job, he would've been able to bolt out a lot easier than he in fact did.

But well, in the end - Mr. Ego NEW King losing doesn't mind me in the least, of course. :devil:
He can't make it look too obvious and taking the medical time out allows him to claim he wasn't 100% and that's why he lost. Although I wasn't aware that a top 5 player like Djoker needed to be 100% to beat someone like Simon. :shrug:

nobama
02-15-2008, 01:55 PM
Not in contention? I think it is a bit early in the year to start fretting about Roger NOT BEING IN CONTENTION for the number 1 spot.

:confused:That's what happens when he doesn't play for a whole month. He just better not have a repeat of last year in IW. I didn't spend $75 so I could watch Djoker, Nadal, Roddick and Murray. :rolleyes: He better not screw me over this year again. :lol:

Sunset of Age
02-15-2008, 03:58 PM
He can't make it look too obvious and taking the medical time out allows him to claim he wasn't 100% and that's why he lost. Although I wasn't aware that a top 5 player like Djoker needed to be 100% to beat someone like Simon. :shrug:

Oscar-worthy performance, indeed.

That's what happens when he doesn't play for a whole month. He just better not have a repeat of last year in IW. I didn't spend $75 so I could watch Djoker, Nadal, Roddick and Murray. :rolleyes: He better not screw me over this year again. :lol:

I trust him enough to not let you down a second time. :hug:

SUKTUEN
02-15-2008, 04:32 PM
he had his plan, I think Roger is after a deep thinking to make this descide.

ExpectedWinner
02-15-2008, 04:36 PM
I've just got a reminder why I have Or Levy on my ignore list. Unfortunately, I can see your gem in MY's post.
Or Levy, I forgot the 3rd scenario: Fed will have an opportunity to clinch No1 soon after the USO. In this case he''ll not bother to show up in Stockholm (IMO).

Hm... With No2 player having more points than Sampras and No3 player having as many points as an "average" No1 usually has, it wouldn't take a horrible season to have problems with the No1 at the end. Probably, Sampras of 96/98 wouldn't have made it.


MY, what Cup is Blake talking about?

nobama
02-15-2008, 08:37 PM
Oscar-worthy performance, indeed.



I trust him enough to not let you down a second time. :hug:
Well I have seen him win the event twice, so I guess I can't be too greedy. But yeah it was painful to have to sit through a final of Nadal v Djoker. Although the Nadal/Roddick match was worse because of how bad Roddick played. :o

nobama
02-15-2008, 08:38 PM
MY, what Cup is Blake talking about?Beats me. :shrug: Maybe the Delray Beach trophy?

nobama
02-15-2008, 10:11 PM
Apparently the Djoker just pulled out of Rotterdam. Good for Roger that the Ego King wasn't able to gain points on him in February.

JediFed
02-17-2008, 10:46 AM
He should be fine until hard court season rolls around. IW and Miami are a chance for Fed to pick up some big points, over 1000 and to really hurt Nadal and Djokovic. Funny, we were all saying a year ago that it wouldn't hurt him too much, and to look at these three tournaments as an opportunity is rather odd.

SUKTUEN
02-17-2008, 01:09 PM
Djov play this too??

ExpectedWinner
02-17-2008, 05:28 PM
If after the USO it's a tight 3 men race for the No1...


Actually, it's possible that Murray will be ready to win a GS title by W or USO. If Fed, Djoker, and Murray are going to "share" hc/grass points, they will "help" TFA with the No1 ranking at the end ( the same is true, if only two men "share" points on hc/grass)

rofe
02-17-2008, 06:26 PM
Actually, it's possible that Murray will be ready to win a GS title by W or USO. If Fed, Djoker, and Murray are going to "share" hc/grass points, they will "help" TFA with the No1 ranking at the end ( the same is true, if only two men "share" points on hc/grass)

I am not sure if Murray is ready to win the GS this year but I agree with the fact that all the talented young guns seems to do better on non-clay surfaces and have the ability to bring down Fed's points giving Nadal the #1. I am just amazed that there are either no new faces on clay or competent players on clay are mentally out of the picture and people have the audacity to talk about the supposed lack of competition for Fed.

Puschkin
02-18-2008, 10:37 AM
Frankly, I think to add Stockholm to the list now is a rather weid decision, and I can't find any convincing argument to justify it. And those arguments I do find, are not very complimentary towards Roger. :o

ExpectedWinner
02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Frankly, I think to add Stockholm to the list now is a rather weid decision, and I can't find any convincing argument to justify it. And those arguments I do find, are not very complimentary towards Roger. :o

To play more than 5 optionals would be excessive at his age. As for those 5 optionals that count toward the total amount of points at the end of the year, he can play whenever/wherever he wants to. It would be extremely naive to think that money don't determine the places.

World Beater
02-19-2008, 12:43 AM
winning the olympic gold is gonna be a huge challenge for federer.

a pumped up nalbandian and the rogue djoker are set to play their best for their respective nations. China will be a fast court for sure. :scared:

RogerFan82
02-19-2008, 01:20 AM
winning the olympic gold is gonna be a huge challenge for federer.

a pumped up nalbandian and the rogue djoker are set to play their best for their respective nations. China will be a fast court for sure. :scared:

Since the olympics is sandwiched between wimby,montreal and cincy on one side and the us open on the other, chances of Djoke (who withdraws from matches every 2nd tournament and takes on court treatment every f*****g match) and Fat dave (most unfit player in the top 25) winning the gold are NIL. I don't see anyone else being a threat for Fed.

FED TAKES THE GOLD IN STYLE!!!!:smoke::smoke:

Rommella
02-19-2008, 03:15 AM
The Olympics opens on the 8th, right? Here's hoping the "8" numerology works out well for the 08-08-08 birthday boy.

SUKTUEN
02-19-2008, 02:11 PM
The Olympics opens on the 8th, right? Here's hoping the "8" numerology works out well for the 08-08-08 birthday boy.


Yes!!!

8 Aug!!!:devil::devil:
8 also a very lucky number in Chinese!:devil:

Rommella
02-22-2008, 10:37 AM
Yes!!!

8 Aug!!!:devil::devil:
8 also a very lucky number in Chinese!:devil:

Suk, it was actually my friend -- who's from the Filipino-Chinese community -- that pointed this out to me. He's particular about dates and numbers, adhering to feng-shui and all. Personally, his idiosyncracies have me scratching my head at times but what the heck, Roger sure could use some fairy dust for the Olympics given the tight schedule.

SUKTUEN
02-22-2008, 04:11 PM
Suk, it was actually my friend -- who's from the Filipino-Chinese community -- that pointed this out to me. He's particular about dates and numbers, adhering to feng-shui and all. Personally, his idiosyncracies have me scratching my head at times but what the heck, Roger sure could use some fairy dust for the Olympics given the tight schedule.



Chinese culture is very complicated, but "8" in Chinese is a good number~~~:D