Guillermo Coria def. Francesco Aldi 6-4 7-5 [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Guillermo Coria def. Francesco Aldi 6-4 7-5

Blue Heart24
02-12-2008, 07:41 PM
:wavey:

dijus
02-12-2008, 07:41 PM
16 Df's by el Guille :sad:
we had 11 breaks in 2nd set :eek: (Aldi was *5-4 SP up, but made DF)

scarecrows
02-12-2008, 07:42 PM
16 double faults :lol:

but Aldi also helped a lot, had SP and lost the service with 3 DFs in a row

1st win after a very long time for Guille :)

Andre♥
02-12-2008, 07:42 PM
He did it!!! :woohoo:

I don't care with how many DF! He won a match!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

First win since Amersfoort 2006! :eek:

Julio1974
02-12-2008, 07:42 PM
VAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS GUILLE CARAJO !!!!!!!!!!

I suffered so much during the second set. Aldi had a set point at 5-4 with his service.

Good luck next round GUille!!!

ReturnWinner
02-12-2008, 07:42 PM
Both players hit a combined of 0 aces and 24 dfs :tape:

Bilbo
02-12-2008, 07:42 PM
24 combined double faults in this mugs match

scoobs
02-12-2008, 07:42 PM
Guille is back - and he brought his Comedy Central serving stats with him ;)

LeChuck
02-12-2008, 07:43 PM
Well that was a wild and wacky encounter. The 11 consecutive service breaks from the final game of the opening set and the first 10 games of the 2nd set, was hilarious.
Well done to Guille for ending his 8 match losing streak, and registering his first victory for 19 months since Amersfoort 2006 :bigclap:.

scoobs
02-12-2008, 07:43 PM
Not to mention ELEVEN consecutive service breaks.

11/12 games in the second set were breaks of serve.

Albop
02-12-2008, 07:43 PM
:worship:

hilarious match

RickDaStick
02-12-2008, 07:43 PM
Coria- The Double Fault Maestro

The crowd should of gotten their money back after this shit. In fact the US Govt should of brought the guantanamo bay gang to this mug fest, if they are serious about torturing them.

Andre♥
02-12-2008, 07:43 PM
The match showed that Guille can serve. The problems in that he got pretty anxious after winning the first set.

His service stats in the 1st set were as good as his serve back in 2003.

Bilbo
02-12-2008, 07:43 PM
coria won't win anything with that serve

ReturnWinner
02-12-2008, 07:44 PM
He did it!!! :woohoo:

I don't care with how many DF! He won a match!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo:

First win since Amersfoort 2006! :eek:

i watched that match in Amsterfoort, it was against Calleri and Coria played pretty well,not served so bad. in fact his best match that year with the one against Djokovic in miami

FiBeR
02-12-2008, 07:44 PM
certainly something you dont see everyday

congratulations Mago de Rufino :rolls:

ReturnWinner
02-12-2008, 07:44 PM
The match showed that Guille can serve. The problems in that he got pretty anxious after winning the first set.

His service stats in the 1st set were as good as his serve back in 2003.

no not so good, Coria barely made a df in 2003

gambit84
02-12-2008, 07:45 PM
16 Dfs!!
but I haven't watched the match. What about?

Sunset of Age
02-12-2008, 07:45 PM
WTA quality... :lol:

LeChuck
02-12-2008, 07:47 PM
The Jankovic-Paszek match at the Australian Open this year 'only' had 9 consecutive service breaks in the final set, so this match has outdone even that :lol:.

The Freak
02-12-2008, 07:47 PM
Good to see Coria get a win but this Aldi must really suck, not winning a set on somebody that hits 16 double faults. :o
Juniors don't even hit double faults at a pace like Coria does, he is a mental wreck.

Andre♥
02-12-2008, 07:48 PM
no not so good, Coria barely made a df in 2003

Ok, still that first set was better than everything he did pos-2005! :tape:

Step by step. He wasn't able to win a set. He won one against Cuevas in Vina del Mar. He wasn't able to win a match. He won one today.

Step by step Guille can become at least a good claycourter again.

jonny84
02-12-2008, 07:48 PM
:yeah: Guillermo. Great to see you win again!

shotgun
02-12-2008, 07:51 PM
The old Coria is back. And I don't mean the Coria from 2003/04 but the one from 2005/06, who used to hit 10+ DFs a match and still win matches. :lol:

Yappa
02-12-2008, 07:51 PM
Never heard of Aldi, but congrats to Coria, I guess.

Nathaliia
02-12-2008, 07:52 PM
Not a great win, but a win, and this is something Mago needs. Aldi seemed to play well in the quallies.

adee-gee
02-12-2008, 07:52 PM
Obviously still lots of worrying signs, but a great moment for Guille. Forget about the double faults :)

Really happy for him, he's needed it badly and although he's still going to get destroyed if he serves like that, it's great to see him finally get a win.

He's obviously still got the game, winning a set where you've served 12 double faults is a hell of an effort :worship:

osalsyst
02-12-2008, 07:53 PM
LOL at these stats. I'm kinda glad to Coria back though. I'm not sure why since I couldn't stand him way back when. Anyway, good luck in the next round!

Dimonator133
02-12-2008, 07:53 PM
wow, that is huge for Coria

even though it must have been the worst match in ATP level history

Andre♥
02-12-2008, 07:54 PM
That match against Kiefer in MC'06 is still my biggest WTF in my whole life! :lol:

Midnight Express
02-12-2008, 07:54 PM
Well,
one thing for you all --- FUK U !!!
He WON THE MATCH!
Coz he lost serve like..hmm everytime and still WAS ABLE TO WIN!!!
Hat off Mr.CORIA!!
What a fight...

FiBeR
02-12-2008, 07:55 PM
Good to see Coria get a win but this Aldi must really suck, not winning a set on somebody that hits 16 double faults. :o
Juniors don't even hit double faults at a pace like Coria does, he is a mental wreck.

how good must someone be to still manage to win after 16 double faults then

:worship: Coria is great.. his serve sucks, but the talent aint gone still

Metis
02-12-2008, 07:55 PM
:banana:

a win is a step forward no matter what :p

Andre♥
02-12-2008, 07:55 PM
even though it must have been the worst match in ATP level history

Tahiri vs Marach from Casablanca'06 still gets my vote! :haha:

scoobs
02-12-2008, 07:56 PM
That match against Kiefer in MC'06 is still my biggest WTF in my whole life! :lol:
The one against Mathieu in the previous round was even better.

I think he was 6-1 *5-2 down at one point but still found a way to let PHM outchoke him.

Alonsofz
02-12-2008, 07:56 PM
Who cares about DFs, a win is a win :p

Coria :yeah:

Andre♥
02-12-2008, 07:56 PM
Ok, Coria couldn't serve well.

But name a player who could break his opponent's serve 7 times in a row! :cool:

AceMaker
02-12-2008, 07:57 PM
16 Df's by el Guille :sad:
we had 11 breaks in 2nd set :eek: (Aldi was *5-4 SP up, but made DF)

aldi did 3 consecutive DF :devil:

lorenz
02-12-2008, 07:57 PM
Today I bet against him !!!
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad:

But Wellcome back, I hope the best for him.

Andre♥
02-12-2008, 07:58 PM
The one against Mathieu in the previous round was even better.

I think he was 6-1 *5-2 down at one point but still found a way to let PHM outchoke him.

The fact that Coria defeated Kiefer while hitting 23 DF is still better! :lol:

He made 20 against Mathieu in the previous match.

scoobs
02-12-2008, 08:00 PM
The fact that Coria defeated Kiefer while hitting 23 DF is still better! :lol:

He made 20 against Mathieu in the previous match.
:lol:

Guille has certainly done his bit for tennis trivia :)

maria_marie
02-12-2008, 08:02 PM
well done Gigi he managed to win a match wohoo

Horatio Caine
02-12-2008, 08:03 PM
A win is a win, so congrats to him! :yeah:

However, unless he sorts his serve out (and there are obviously still major problems), he really isn't going to get much further, and this win can only, at this stage, be seen as a false dawn.

Shocking to hear that Aldi managed 3 successive df of his own from set point up. :lol:

Savo
02-12-2008, 08:04 PM
WTF was that, seriously?

Welcome back Willy, and thanks for the cash.

NyGeL
02-12-2008, 08:04 PM
I'm happy about Guille :)

Horatio Caine
02-12-2008, 08:06 PM
Incidentally, are the stats slightly wrong? I mean, Coria won 12/29 2nd serve points and, presumably, if you forget the 16 double faults, he'd have won 28/29 in the match? Surely can't be right. :confused:

Metis
02-12-2008, 08:06 PM
:lol:

Guille has certainly done his bit for tennis trivia :)

Those 2 matches have stayed in my memory together with the Federer-Nadal clashes of that year. :worship: :lol:

Jaap
02-12-2008, 08:07 PM
Mugs match.

lucho_coria
02-12-2008, 08:07 PM
Guille is playing very good because is not easy win one match with 16 double faults

And please ppeople , dont think in the DF , coria now only needs win , only win , it is not important his serve now

Sommarsverige
02-12-2008, 08:08 PM
Guille won a match again :bounce: :bounce:

Don´t care about the df´s at the moment...this was definitely a step into the right direction :)

scoobs
02-12-2008, 08:11 PM
Have to give the guy huge respect for even going out there and trying to get it all back.

Given how bad things had got, nobody would blame him for walking away completely, so good for him to get a win.

Fumus
02-12-2008, 08:12 PM
Vamos el Mago!

KitinovRules
02-12-2008, 08:21 PM
Well, this is very good news to have such a good player as Coria back on tour.
But the DF's number is strange, alarming thing.

Ivo#1Fan
02-12-2008, 08:25 PM
Incidentally, are the stats slightly wrong? I mean, Coria won 12/29 2nd serve points and, presumably, if you forget the 16 double faults, he'd have won 28/29 in the match? Surely can't be right. :confused:

He'd have had to win those 16 double fault points to win 28/29.

He faulted 16 out of 29 second serves so 55% of the time he hit a 2nd serve he double faulted. The other surprising stat is that 12 of the 13 times that he made his 2nd serve he won the point, so he won the point 92% of the time that he made his 2nd serve. Yet he only won the point 52% of the time that he made his 1st serve???? So what's he doing, going for broke on the 2nd serves and hitting them even harder than the 1st serves? Or is the opponent just falling asleep on the 2nd serves and losing those points when they go in because he's expecting a double fault?? Interesting.

takuma
02-12-2008, 08:27 PM
too bad the serve is still a problem, but hey!a WIN!congrats Guille!:cool:

allero
02-12-2008, 08:29 PM
Guille would still blow someone like Aldi away as in 2003/04 if is serve wasn't that bad because his baseline game is still very good. He'd probably be the favourite to win this tournament if he could cut down on the DF's, but obviously with this serve it is impossible. I will be happy if he takes a set off Volandri in the next round. Volandri has a very bad serve himself though he doesn't hit nearly as many DF so I expect another break festival. But I'm really glad to have Guille back.:D

Caralimon
02-12-2008, 08:30 PM
He'd have had to win those 16 double fault points to win 28/29.

He faulted 16 out of 29 second serves so 55% of the time he hit a 2nd serve he double faulted. The other surprising stat is that 12 of the 13 times that he made his 2nd serve he won the point, so he won the point 92% of the time that he made his 2nd serve. Yet he only won the point 52% of the time that he made his 1st serve???? So what's he doing, going for broke on the 2nd serves and hitting them even harder than the 1st serves? Or is the opponent just falling asleep on the 2nd serves and losing those points when they go in because he's expecting a double fault?? Interesting.

DFs aren't 2nd serve points, they're just DFs.

RickDaStick
02-12-2008, 08:33 PM
DFs aren't 2nd serve points, they're just DFs.

Incorrect

stebs
02-12-2008, 08:33 PM
Great to see him winning but it means very little if he can't sort his serve because he will lose to nearly everyone anyway.

dijus
02-12-2008, 08:37 PM
The one against Mathieu in the previous round was even better.

I think he was 6-1 *5-2 down at one point but still found a way to let PHM outchoke him.

6-1 5-1 ;)

allero
02-12-2008, 08:39 PM
Well Guille hit 10 DF's in his loss to Cuevas which was a pretty tight match and Cuevas then nearly upset Gonzalez who won the tournament. I guess Guille can still be competitive by hitting about 10 DF's in 3 sets (which would add up to about 7 in 2 sets), but 16 in 2 is obviously too much. Anyway there are some sets where Guille doesn't hit that many DF's and then he will hit 10 or more in a single set. He needs to find a way to avoid these total letdowns on his own serve. Let's see how many DF's he hits next match.

kiwi10is
02-12-2008, 08:49 PM
df or not... he won!! I hope he can manage to comeback.

scoobs
02-12-2008, 09:07 PM
6-1 5-1 ;)
I must dig those matches out and have another look - they really were something else.

After a gap of only being intermittently interested in tennis - the Slams and keeping a vague eye on ranking, in 2006 I really started to get hooked after the Aussie Open, and I think by the time I'd seen these two matches in Monte Carlo I was completed obsessed - how can you not love a sport where crazy things like this can happen? :)

adee-gee
02-12-2008, 09:10 PM
Incidentally, are the stats slightly wrong? I mean, Coria won 12/29 2nd serve points and, presumably, if you forget the 16 double faults, he'd have won 28/29 in the match? Surely can't be right. :confused:
Aldi was so surprised a 2nd serve landed in that he dumped his return into the net :o

But seriously, I think what Ivo#1Fan said is right.

Foxy
02-12-2008, 09:12 PM
6:1 5:1 true. I watched that match. The rallies were amazing. Guille saved some matchpoints. At some point Guille was even f*cking around with PHM (rally-wise). Just unforgetable match. :)

LeChuck
02-12-2008, 09:13 PM
Yes it was hilarious when PHM failed to serve out the match in the 2nd set no less than 3 times, against Guille at Monte-Carlo. Guille saved 4 match points in the 2nd set. The fact that he won those matches against PHM and Kiefer despite serving 20 and 23 double faults respectively was just brilliant.

Adler
02-12-2008, 09:14 PM
A win is a win, but against Aldi, with all his respect, it's not an achievement for such a player

Next match against probably Volandri, another impressive server

scarecrows
02-12-2008, 09:24 PM
Next match against probably Volandri, another impressive server

another breakfest in the making

Voo de Mar
02-12-2008, 09:53 PM
Ridiculous match. Coria served 2nd serve 29 times in this match and won 12 points = he lost only one rally after second serve, 16 other points Aldi won thanks to Coria's double faults! :help: Complete joke.

CooCooCachoo
02-12-2008, 10:02 PM
Coria Kournikova.

mangoes
02-12-2008, 10:19 PM
:banana: :banana: Coria:hug: :banana: I didn't expect him to win this match, so this is a very nice surprise..... So what if he had a couple double faults:lol:

maxxo
02-12-2008, 10:42 PM
Go Guille!!! you fucking legend!

this guy was almost invicible on clay in his prime. check out
this 3 week run he had in 2003

Sopot Poland
WS 28 Jul 2003 to 03 Aug 2003
32 W CORIA v HANESCU 6-3 6-4
16 W CORIA v ROCHUS 6-1 6-0
QF W CORIA v MUTIS 6-3 6-4
SF W CORIA v HORNA 6-2 6-2
FR W CORIA v FERRER 7-5 6-1

Kitzbuhel Austria
CS 21 Jul 2003 to 27 Jul 2003
64 B BYE
32 W CORIA v VINCIGUERRA 6-4 6-3
16 W CORIA v MUTIS 6-1 6-0
QF W CORIA v CHELA 6-3 6-2
SF W CORIA v LOPEZ 6-1 6-2
FR W CORIA v MASSU 6-1 6-4 6-2

Stuttgart Outdoor Germany
CS 14 Jul 2003 to 20 Jul 2003
64 B BYE
32 W CORIA v MATHIEU 7-5 6-3
16 W CORIA v FERRER 6-1 6-1
QF W CORIA v YOUZHNY 6-0 6-0
SF W CORIA v LOPEZ 6-4 6-0
FR W CORIA v ROBREDO 6-2 6-2 6-1

complete annihilation :worship:

LeChuck
02-12-2008, 10:46 PM
Yes Guille's summer claycourt season three-peat in 2003 where he won 15 matches out of 15, and 32 sets out of 32, was awesome.

Raquel
02-12-2008, 10:54 PM
Vamos El Mago :devil: :bounce:

scarecrows
02-12-2008, 10:59 PM
Yes Guille's summer claycourt season three-peat in 2003 where he won 15 matches out of 15, and 32 sets out of 32, was awesome.

he played like an assclown the RG SF against Verkerk though

LeChuck
02-12-2008, 11:03 PM
he played like an assclown the RG SF against Verkerk though

Yes he was crap that day. I was fully expecting and hoping for a Ferrero-Coria final that year. Although in a way I was pleased as I wanted JCF to finally win the RG title, and I thought that Verkerk would be an easier opponent for him in the final which turned out to be true.

scarecrows
02-12-2008, 11:09 PM
and I thought that Verkerk would be an easier opponent for him in the final which turned out to be true.

yep, pretty one sided final

considering Coria's and JCF's form that clay season it would have been a great final on paper

LeChuck
02-12-2008, 11:16 PM
Yes a Ferrero-Coria final would have been great.
Al Costa's strong title defence at RG that year, when he reached the semi-finals winning 4 matches in 5 sets along way, coming back from 2 sets to love down in 3 of them, was brilliant.
In Verkerk's quarter-final against Moya, once Charlie came from 2 sets to love down to force a 5th set, I was expecting him to roll through the decider, but Verkerk held his nerve very well.
As a huge fan of both Henin and Ferrero, RG 2003 was a very enjoyable tournament for me.

Chachoo
02-12-2008, 11:34 PM
Coria have to stop whit the DF, he will not win another match...

gambit84
02-12-2008, 11:44 PM
16 DFs :sad:

I haven't watched the match on tv :sad: what about?

In the second set 11 break :confused:



I think he hasn't chance against Volandri in the 2th round :sad:

Ferrero Forever
02-12-2008, 11:57 PM
It's nice to see Coria win a match finally, but he's really gotta do something about those double faults.

Haile Selassie
02-12-2008, 11:59 PM
Gulle! I am happy :D for the win but worried about the DF :sad:
It is not easy to win a match if served 16 df.

gambit84
02-13-2008, 12:03 AM
It is not easy to win a match if served 16 df.

I remembered his Montecarlo '06 :sad:

Merton
02-13-2008, 12:10 AM
A win is a win, but 12 double faults in the 2nd set is a free gift equivalent to 4 games. Perhaps Borg at his best could give such odds to the opposition and win but certainly Coria cannot.

scarecrows
02-13-2008, 12:12 AM
A win is a win, but 12 double faults in the 2nd set is a free gift equivalent to 4 games. Perhaps Borg at his best could give such odds to the opposition and win but certainly Coria cannot.

he wouldnt have a chance against Djokovic playing like this ;)

Merton
02-13-2008, 12:14 AM
he wouldnt have a chance against Djokovic playing like this ;)

True :haha:

alfonsojose
02-13-2008, 12:14 AM
the weasel is back. 2008 French Open champion :rocker2: :tape:

scoobs
02-13-2008, 12:25 AM
I remembered his Montecarlo '06 :sad:
Both of those were over 3 sets as well.

njnetswill
02-13-2008, 12:54 AM
Dementieva of ATP. :worship:

guille&tati4life
02-13-2008, 01:09 AM
FUCKING YESSSSS!

Next round now Guille, teach Volandri what a proper player can do :p

Eugenia
02-13-2008, 01:18 AM
Guille!! :worship: So happy for you :yeah: :D

jayjay
02-13-2008, 02:07 AM
Pretty routine stuff for Mago. He doesn't have trouble with these guys serving under 20 DFs. Volandri's only chance will be if he serves between 30-35 DFs, maybe it will be his lucky day, maybe it won't.

Chances are Guille beats Volandri in 3, serving only 23 DFs.

ChinoRios4Ever
02-13-2008, 02:10 AM
a win is a win :p

*bunny*
02-13-2008, 06:07 AM
Congrats, el Mago!! :yippee:
Now that he's scored a win, he can put the monkey off his back and he may feel less stress when serving.
Will be fun the next round between him and Volandri, who used to be the closest thing ATP had to Dementieva before the Italian sorted out his DFs and Coria took over. :lol:

VolandriFan
02-13-2008, 07:29 AM
Nice win Guille, we're all happy for this. Too bad Pippo will take him out in two next round. ;)

DhammaTiger
02-13-2008, 08:46 AM
Happy for El Mago :woohoo: a win is a win regardless of how many double faults. I hope he will focus on his groundstrokes and win the next round. If he won in 2006 in MC against PHM and Kiefer, I am confident he can do it against Volandri. Vamos Coria.

foul_dwimmerlaik
02-13-2008, 08:53 AM
Yeah, sixteen doublefaults is not good, but I'm so happy that Guille won a match!

Congrads and don't stop!

foul_dwimmerlaik
02-13-2008, 09:04 AM
Yes it was hilarious when PHM failed to serve out the match in the 2nd set no less than 3 times, against Guille at Monte-Carlo. Guille saved 4 match points in the 2nd set. The fact that he won those matches against PHM and Kiefer despite serving 20 and 23 double faults respectively was just brilliant.

Wasn't it in one of those matches when he played an entire game of dfs, hitting 4 in a row?

Truc
02-13-2008, 09:49 AM
Yes, against Kiefer.

sports freak
02-13-2008, 09:59 AM
Its been soo long,welcome back champ!!Looking forward to seeing your rankings drop dramatically,all the best this year!!

Sean.J.S.
02-13-2008, 11:36 AM
No...

scoobs
02-13-2008, 11:55 AM
``This is the happiest day in my career,'' Coria said. ``After nearly 20 months, I finally managed to win. I know I did not play well, but I won, and that is the most important thing.''

foul_dwimmerlaik
02-13-2008, 12:30 PM
Yes, against Kiefer.
Ah, thanks.

cmurray
02-13-2008, 12:42 PM
Dude. 12 double faults in one set is :tape: but DAMN I'm glad he won a match.