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What players should France bring against the US?

The Freak
02-10-2008, 12:56 AM
And what should the lineup be...

I think Tsonga and Gasquet should partner up against the Bryans for the French to have the best shot in doubles, but at the same time it seems like those two are also the best for singles. Monfils is questionable and has been out for awhile, and Mathieu in Davis Cup, there is potential for disaster there.

Albop
02-10-2008, 12:56 AM
Tsonga and gasquet

no chance for monfils

The Freak
02-10-2008, 01:00 AM
Forgot to put Mathieu in poll somehow... :o

Albop
02-10-2008, 01:05 AM
why monfils has a vote ? :o

Yappa
02-10-2008, 01:06 AM
Santoro/Llodra should play doubles.
Gasquet is obviously playing singles, no matter what. We'll have to see about Tsonga. Very well possible, that Mathieu will be back in the team for the tie against USA.

VolandriFan
02-10-2008, 01:06 AM
The same team as they used this week. It's a very strong combination.

Tsonga could be swapped for Paulo or Gilles depending on how he backs up this season.

bluefork
02-10-2008, 01:06 AM
Gasquet and Tsonga have the best chance in the singles, and given that Llodra and Clement have won Wimbledon and been runners-up at the AO in the past year, you have to think they have a shot at beating the Bryans.

bluefork
02-10-2008, 01:08 AM
Santoro/Llodra should play doubles.
Gasquet is obviously playing singles, no matter what. We'll have to see about Tsonga. Very well possible, that Mathieu will be back in the team for the tie against USA.

Santoro doesn't play Davis Cup anymore, though, does he? And he and Llodra haven't played together in a few years, so it probably makes more sense to keep Llodra and Clement together.

Yappa
02-10-2008, 01:11 AM
Well, I just think that the doubles team Llodra/Santoro would have more potential. And as you said, they played together in the past, so they know how to do it.
Good question about Santoro. No idea if he even wants to be nominated. The last time that he had his comeback in the team, was after his great Aussie Open run iirc.

Schu
02-10-2008, 01:17 AM
Gasquet and Tsonga - they play it all. However Llodra could be good for doubles - and either Gasquet or Tsonga as his partner, probably Tsonga. I didn't see the doubles today but sounds like Clement sucked it up as he has done in previous matches.

Since France has to bring more than 2 - I'll say Gasquet, Tsonga, Llodra, and Santoro - remember what he did to Blake (it was Blake at the USO or am I having a senior moment?)and he can play doubles. But maybe it's best to keep a doubles team together so I'll say Clement too. Clement/Llodra did win Wimbly :shrug:

Allure
02-10-2008, 01:18 AM
Gasquet and Tsonga for singles
Clement/Llodra for doubles

NyGeL
02-10-2008, 01:24 AM
Current team is strong.

They should easily beat the US.

Chris Seahorse
02-10-2008, 01:35 AM
I would take Gasquet Tsonga & Santoro/Llodra
Fabrice Santoro has beaten the Bryan brothers 10 times in his career winning matches with four different partners against the team.

I would leave Clement out.

silverwhite
02-10-2008, 02:13 AM
I'd like to see Santoro in the team too. Trouble is, not sure Forget would select him...

Johnny Groove
02-10-2008, 03:01 AM
Why bring in PHM? :o

Unless Tsonga sucks a fat one in IW and Miami, i see no reason to. PHM's lack of balls in pressure situations (as this tie should be, its rather even) should tip the scale in Tsonga's favor.

As for doubles, Llodra/Clement have had some great success, but i dont think they can beat Bryans. Santoro/Llodra would yield a better chance of victory.

silverwhite
02-10-2008, 03:07 AM
As for doubles, Llodra/Clement have had some great success, but i dont think they can beat Bryans. Santoro/Llodra would yield a better chance of victory.

Didn't they beat the Bryans in 4 sets or something in the Wimbledon final? Still, Llodra/Santoro would be a better choice, IMO...

TMJordan
02-10-2008, 03:13 AM
Gasquet, Tsonga, Llodra/Santoro and the French will win :cool:

Johnny Groove
02-10-2008, 03:14 AM
Didn't they beat the Bryans in 4 sets or something in the Wimbledon final? Still, Llodra/Santoro would be a better choice, IMO...

Oh my mistake, they did.

Clement/Llodra also beat them in Sydney last year, so maybe they could have a shot yet.

*Viva Chile*
02-10-2008, 03:35 AM
Current squad ;)

Kolya
02-10-2008, 03:48 AM
Are they playing in France or USA?

~*BGT*~
02-10-2008, 03:50 AM
In the USA :banana:

Dimonator133
02-10-2008, 04:34 AM
In the USA :banana:

can someone confirm this?

where will it be - Portland, Winston-Salem, where?

Lee
02-10-2008, 04:37 AM
Winston-Salem

ChinoRios4Ever
02-10-2008, 04:38 AM
i think USA will put grass

France should play with Richie, Baby Ali and Santoro-Llodra

~*BGT*~
02-10-2008, 04:50 AM
I'm pretty sure Santoro is out of DC. :help: This is his last year on tour. :tape:

<Blue>
02-10-2008, 06:41 AM
It depends on the surface, and to see who's playing well by that time, they have too many players to choose.
PHM, poor guy, good luck to him.
Santoro :bounce: I like him

Mateya
02-10-2008, 07:47 AM
I cant believe you forget PHM :sad: ...and gave Monfils, Benneteau, Simon, Mahut as an options. :spit:

Gasquet,Tsonga, Llodra/Santoro would do the job for me. :cool:

Truc
02-10-2008, 08:08 AM
Llodra and Santoro are not in good terms, you can't blame only Forget for not picking them atm, they never play together anymore in case you haven't noticed. They'd have 2 months to patch things up, but I'm not sure either of them is eager to do it - otherwise it would be easy to make pressure on Forget to pick them, they should just play together from time to time and show they're the best team for France. Forget was not pleased at all by Clément's display yesterday either, so there definitely is some room for another doubles pairing. But there are many other options than Llodra-Santoro...I'm pretty sure Santoro is out of DC. :help: This is his last year on tour. :tape:No, I don't know why the ATP website keeps writing that because he actually says in every interview he hasn't made his decision yet.

Truc
02-10-2008, 08:14 AM
Well, I just think that the doubles team Llodra/Santoro would have more potential. And as you said, they played together in the past, so they know how to do it.
Good question about Santoro. No idea if he even wants to be nominated. The last time that he had his comeback in the team, was after his great Aussie Open run iirc.Santoro was considered again for the DC after his "great Aussie Open run", but wasn't on the team because of the story of the exhibition in Tarbes. Last time he played for DC was in 2004.
Since you speak French, they have an article about it on Santoro's website:
http://www.fabricesantoro.info/dossiers/chronique-desamour.pdf
As you can see, there always have been a lot of stories around Santoro and the DC team, it's not as easy as people say and it's not only Forget's fault if he's not on the team (and really, I can't stand Forget, so I'm the last person to defend him usually).

However, Santoro never said he doesn't want to play DC anymore, on the contrary, and Forget keeps pretending he's not ruling him out either, so he's still an option.
He's a good friend of Gasquet, for example, that would be a possibility too in doubles (not for the next tie, but in general).

Horatio Caine
02-10-2008, 08:27 AM
And what should the lineup be...

I think Tsonga and Gasquet should partner up against the Bryans for the French to have the best shot in doubles

Erm, no.

They should replace Clement with Santoro...and that's about all they can do.


EDIT - just read the stuff on Santoro...seems he won't be back, regardless. In that case, keep the team as it was for the Romania tie.

Kolya
02-10-2008, 09:12 AM
Didn't Tsonga and Gasquet beat the Bryans in Sydney?

Renaud
02-10-2008, 09:24 AM
Didn't Tsonga and Gasquet beat the Bryans in Sydney?

They did, and i would love to see them playing together in DC.
But it's all about their fitness... Are they able to play three match in one week end ?

Kolya
02-10-2008, 09:26 AM
They did, and i would love to see them playing together in DC.
But it's all about their fitness... Are they able to play three match in one week end ?

Yeah I know.

Clement and Llodra can beat the Bryans.

Just keep the same team.

Matheiu sucks on hardcourts.

Renaud
02-10-2008, 09:38 AM
Yeah I know.

Clement and Llodra can beat the Bryans.

Just keep the same team.

Matheiu sucks on hardcourts.


No he doesn't. He lead 1/0 against Roddick on Hard court.
And he almost beat Blake last year in New Haven. (7/6 in the last set)
But it's true he is not very reliable ...
To answer to the initial question i think they should bring Gasquet, Tsonga, Llodra and one single player able to beat Blake. So Grosjean or PHM.

*julie*
02-10-2008, 10:12 AM
No he doesn't. He lead 1/0 against Roddick on Hard court.
And he almost beat Blake last year in New Haven. (7/6 in the last set)
But it's true he is not very reliable ...
To answer to the initial question i think they should bring Gasquet, Tsonga, Llodra and one single player able to beat Blake. So Grosjean or PHM.

:yeah:

Jozie
02-10-2008, 10:14 AM
No he doesn't. He lead 1/0 against Roddick on Hard court.
And he almost beat Blake last year in New Haven. (7/6 in the last set)
But it's true he is not very reliable ...
To answer to the initial question i think they should bring Gasquet, Tsonga, Llodra and one single player able to beat Blake. So Grosjean or PHM.

Agree with this, but I think Simon should be able to beat Blake.

Experimentee
02-10-2008, 10:35 AM
Current team is good. Llodra and Clement should play doubles, no need to tire out the singles players. Santoro could go in instead of Clement if he wants to play.

Puschkin
02-10-2008, 11:15 AM
They did, and i would love to see them playing together in DC.
But it's all about their fitness... Are they able to play three match in one week end ?

They won't have to. They can seal victory on Saturday. :D ;)

On a more serious note: There is still some time left til April and individual forms can change considerably, in both directions. I'd favour Fabrice in doubles with Llodra, but it is not very likely. :o

scarecrows
02-10-2008, 11:29 AM
why is Simon in the poll?

and why he has 3 votes?

Jozie
02-10-2008, 11:44 AM
why is Simon in the poll?

and why he has 3 votes?

Is this a trick question?

*julie*
02-10-2008, 11:51 AM
The poll is useless anyway.. Benneteau, Monfils and Mahut are in it while Paulo isn't ;)

scarecrows
02-10-2008, 11:51 AM
Tsonga showed against Nadal that he likes playing moonballers so he can beat Roddick

Yappa
02-10-2008, 12:19 PM
Santoro was considered again for the DC after his "great Aussie Open run", but wasn't on the team because of the story of the exhibition in Tarbes. Last time he played for DC was in 2004.

My bad, I completely forgot about the exhibition story.


Since you speak French, they have an article about it on Santoro's website:
http://www.fabricesantoro.info/dossiers/chronique-desamour.pdf
As you can see, there always have been a lot of stories around Santoro and the DC team, it's not as easy as people say and it's not only Forget's fault if he's not on the team (and really, I can't stand Forget, so I'm the last person to defend him usually).

Thanks for the pdf file.
But what exactly went wrong in 2003, that the other team members didn't want Santoro in the team anymore? Is it just about the way he lost to Federer (and Federer/Rosset in the doubles)?

TheBoiledEgg
02-10-2008, 12:21 PM
Gasquet, Tsonga
Clement and Llodra

kick ass
Allez les bleus

mickymouse
02-10-2008, 12:23 PM
Tsonga showed against Nadal that he likes playing moonballers so he can beat Roddick
But Roddick's serve might be 'too big' for him. ;)

afrOmig
02-10-2008, 12:58 PM
yeah i agree llodra and clement are amazing doubles players because there both ranked top 15 in the world in doubles and #2 on the ATP DOUBLES RACE

and i think singles u cudnt go wrong with gasquet and tsonga!! but mathieu is amazing also.... and i wudnt put monfils on yet cos his too much of a loose canon.

but yeah i think stiock to the same team for now!

afrOmig
02-10-2008, 01:00 PM
i dont think roddicks as dangerous as ppl think he is!! he just gets free points off serve... gasquets beaten him the last time! and tsonga is in great form

Shabazza
02-10-2008, 03:00 PM
Either way, regardless who shows up for France, it will be a very tough task for the US-team, even though they play at home.

Voo de Mar
02-10-2008, 03:01 PM
I hope for Tsonga vs. Blake rubber :drool:

Snowwy
02-10-2008, 11:05 PM
Clement/Llodra are currently 2nd in the race. I know its still early but thats AHEAD of the Bryans and the other successful doubles teams. They are definately better together than Santoro/Llodra

Deboogle!.
02-10-2008, 11:28 PM
You've got to be kidding me. Why would we choose grass against Gasquet and Tsonga? Definitely hard court and probably outdoors.Definitely hard court, definitely indoors. the Joel Coliseum in Winston-Salem has already officially been selected and announced and it is 100% for sure an indoor stadium. The only question about the surface really is how fast it will be and how low it will bounce. The rest is 100% for sure determined. Whether that's the best or smartest decision is pretty irrelevant; it is what it is.

Pigpen Stinks
02-11-2008, 12:30 AM
Should be an excellent tie. All five matches could go either way. Also gives Andy and James a nice excuse to blow off a good portion of the clay season.

JimmyV
02-11-2008, 04:29 AM
Doesn't matter, Roddick is a top 50 player at his best and Blake's so mentally weak he can't even add 2+2. France would win 5-0 with Simon and Monfils.

USA should field Bob and Mike Bryan for both singles matches and the doubles, their the best hope.

my0118
02-11-2008, 04:32 AM
Doesn't matter, Roddick is a top 50 player at his best and Blake's so mentally weak he can't even add 2+2. France would win 5-0 with Simon and Monfils.

USA should field Bob and Mike Bryan for both singles matches and the doubles, their the best hope.

So we could see pics of Simon and Monfils dancing with girls at a club after 2nd round?

JimmyV
02-11-2008, 04:40 AM
So we could see pics of Simon and Monfils dancing with girls at a club after 2nd round?

You know it http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/graphics/gallery/tennis/ausopen2007/day3/monfils.jpg