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Roddick df Melzer 6-4 4-6 6-3 6-7 6-3/ USA 1-0

~*BGT*~
02-08-2008, 04:16 PM
Andy :worship:

osalsyst
02-08-2008, 04:17 PM
Great job Andy! Surprisingly tight match but you just knew Jurgen wouldn't win a fifth set.

adee-gee
02-08-2008, 04:20 PM
Brilliant effort from Andy :yeah:

Simply not as bad on clay as people think.

Raises his game for DC once again.

Voo de Mar
02-08-2008, 04:21 PM
Melzer lost 4th five-setter in a row in Davis Cup.

~*BGT*~
02-08-2008, 04:21 PM
My thread was first. ;) :p Andy. :worship: I can't wait to see this match. :)

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 04:22 PM
Brilliant effort from Andy :yeah:

Simply not as bad on clay as people think.

Raises his game for DC once again.

Wake me up when he beats a top player near their peak on clay.

Roddick goes to 7-0 over Melzer.

Labamba
02-08-2008, 04:22 PM
Melzer the eternal choker :banghead:

He was a break up in the 5th and had all the momemtum in the world after fighting back in the 4th...

pkubik
02-08-2008, 04:23 PM
yeah, eat your shit melzer

Kolya
02-08-2008, 04:24 PM
:haha:

Psichogauchovna
02-08-2008, 04:25 PM
4 hours :o

Dimonator133
02-08-2008, 04:26 PM
Roddick:hatoff:

USA:worship:



wish he could have taken care of things with less difficulty, but any win on the red stuff for USA is a good win

Horatio Caine
02-08-2008, 04:28 PM
LMFAO! :haha:

Melzer's brain just completely :timebomb:

adee-gee
02-08-2008, 04:30 PM
Wake me up when he beats a top player near their peak on clay.

Roddick goes to 7-0 over Melzer.
I never said he's world class, I said he's not as bad as people think :)

Horatio Caine
02-08-2008, 04:33 PM
I never said he's world class, I said he's not as bad as people think :)

I think that's a pretty fair comment. Results aren't everything, but he has a number of half-decent wins on the dirt.

I just hope he is playing a little better than he was at the AO, although it sounds like he probably wasn't. :tape: I think Koubek should be fancying his chances on Sunday, although Blake should, potentially, prove to be a much greater test today imo. He has the power to hit through Koubek, so much will depend on whether he can play consistently enough.

Voo de Mar
02-08-2008, 04:34 PM
I never said he's world class, I said he's not as bad as people think :)

He's St. Polten champion, beating "clay-courter" Davydenko in the final :rocker:

gusman890
02-08-2008, 04:35 PM
I didnt see the match.

But I am glad that Andy won in the end no else, espically since it was on clay.

~*BGT*~
02-08-2008, 04:35 PM
Wake me up when he beats a top player near their peak on clay.

Roddick goes to 7-0 over Melzer.

What, you would expect him to beat Rafa or Davydenko? I would only like his chances against James. :rolleyes:

Bilbo
02-08-2008, 04:36 PM
Melzer is known to be one of the biggest chokers and headcases on tour. It was clear he would lose the final set to someone his record was 0-6 before this match.

With Koubek Austria has another choker in the bag.

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 04:43 PM
I think that's a pretty fair comment. Results aren't everything, but he has a number of half-decent wins on the dirt.

I just hope he is playing a little better than he was at the AO, although it sounds like he probably wasn't. :tape: I think Koubek should be fancying his chances on Sunday, although Blake should, potentially, prove to be a much greater test today imo. He has the power to hit through Koubek, so much will depend on whether he can play consistently enough.

Answer the question. Tell me of these half-decent wins? Berdych is probably the best win he has had on a clay court. Costa on his walking frame in Rome and Gaudio who couldn't beat bilbo's grandma when they played count as decent wins. He'd be estatic if he was as good as Sampras on clay.

Blake is going to hit through Koubek is he? He will only win if Koubek fucks it up.

Fumus
02-08-2008, 04:48 PM
Answer the question. Tell me of these half-decent wins? Berdych is probably the best win he has had on a clay court. Costa on his walking frame in Rome and Gaudio who couldn't beat bilbo's grandma when they played count as decent wins. He'd be estatic if he was as good as Sampras on clay.

Blake is going to hit through Koubek is he? He will only win if Koubek fucks it up.

Hostile much.

Remember, George...a win is a win, also I'll remind you to remember :confused:, lol, who made those bold predictions about Roddick losing to Berdych on clay...or about the Russians beating the Americans in the DC final.

Hold the mayo, and the American tennis bashing on my Davis Cup hamburger please!

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 04:54 PM
One thing you got to give Roddick is that, he at least he turns up and plays for his country and doesn't make excuses to get out of playing.

-SaFiinsBabY-
02-08-2008, 04:55 PM
Did anyone of you see this match?

Nooo .. probably not ... really ridiculous !!


Jürgen (: :worship:

rocketassist
02-08-2008, 04:57 PM
Melzer wasn't winning this match in such a high pressure environment.

Roddick was a better clay courter in 2002 when he had that forehand and he could hit through players- his playing style nowadays actually seems more suited to the clay!

bokehlicious
02-08-2008, 04:58 PM
One thing you got to give Roddick is that, he at least he turns up and plays for his country and doesn't make excuses to get out of playing.

No wonder he plays DC, he knows it is fairly the only "major" event he can possibly win... :shrug: :)

adee-gee
02-08-2008, 04:58 PM
Answer the question. Tell me of these half-decent wins? Berdych is probably the best win he has had on a clay court. Costa on his walking frame in Rome and Gaudio who couldn't beat bilbo's grandma when they played count as decent wins. He'd be estatic if he was as good as Sampras on clay.
He doesn't hugely care on clay unless it's DC, he hasn't played many of the top players to be fair.

He's beaten a few fairly decent players on clay. Berdych and Melzer in front of home crowds are both excellent wins. Wins over Robredo, Acasuso, Davydenko, Coria, Horna, Gonzo, Costa and Gaudio are not to be sniffed at.

And he beat Sampras when they met on clay ;)

He's played extremely well in some clay court matches and lost too, the Nadal match in the DC final was excellent and he was unlucky not to beat Acasuso at RG.

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 04:59 PM
Hostile much.

Remember, George...a win is a win, also I'll remind you to remember :confused:, lol, who made those bold predictions about Roddick losing to Berdych on clay...or about the Russians beating the Americans in the DC final.

Hold the mayo, and the American tennis bashing on my Davis Cup hamburger please!

Roddick playing Melzer, Malisse and Robredo anytime, anywhere is a guaranteed win.

Don't be a smartarse. Look at what I said in that DC final. I said the US would win before the final, so stop the spin. I said it wasn't going to be easy as you thought, there is a very clear difference between those 2 points.

sports freak
02-08-2008, 05:03 PM
Good stuff Andy,James send the clown Koubek home aswell!!!

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 05:04 PM
He doesn't hugely care on clay unless it's DC, he hasn't played many of the top players to be fair.

He's beaten a few fairly decent players on clay. Berdych and Melzer in front of home crowds are both excellent wins. Wins over Robredo, Acasuso, Davydenko, Coria, Horna, Gonzo, Costa and Gaudio are not to be sniffed at.

And he beat Sampras when they met on clay ;)

He's played extremely well in some clay court matches and lost too, the Nadal match in the DC final was excellent and he was unlucky not to beat Acasuso at RG.

Did you fail to read thre part where it said at peak or near peak? Which ones of those were that?

Acasuso at peak in 2002, stop smoking. Coria coming back from a drug ban, Gaudio and Costa past it. Sampras was really peaking at that time as well and as for Gonzo that is as close as you will get.

Robredo and Horna are match up issues in his favour. Davydenko nowhere near his peak and would probably come into the Robredo/Horna circle.

Nadal wasn't even close to the player he is now and handled him comfortably.

Voo de Mar
02-08-2008, 05:06 PM
Acasuso at peak in 2002, stop smoking. Coria coming back from a drug ban, Gaudio and Costa past it. Sampras was really peaking at that time as well and as for Gonzo that is as close as you will get.

Robredo and Horna are match up issues in his favour. Davydenko nowhere near his peak and would probably come into the Robredo/Horna circle.

Nadal wasn't even close to the player he is now and handled him comfortably.

Yeah, everything above is true.

Horatio Caine
02-08-2008, 05:08 PM
Answer the question. Tell me of these half-decent wins? Berdych is probably the best win he has had on a clay court. Costa on his walking frame in Rome and Gaudio who couldn't beat bilbo's grandma when they played count as decent wins. He'd be estatic if he was as good as Sampras on clay.

Blake is going to hit through Koubek is he? He will only win if Koubek fucks it up.

We can go around in circles here. What I consider to be "half-decent," you wouldn't. His more impressive wins, for me, are those over Berdych, Ollie Rochus (more of a threat to him on slower surfaces), a couple over Horna...I'm sure there are a couple more. Anyway, as has been said...he gets the job done when it tends to matter more.

If Koubek is going to lose a singles match this weekend, it is more likely to be against Blake. Roddick doesn't hit with any real penetration, these days...he is too passive. Blake, on the other hand, opens his shoulders, and, sure...he has the power to hit through Koubek. I thought even you wouldn't be blind to that? Obviously he is a rightful underdog, but if he can somehow avoid being too inconsistent (and this isn't impossible), he can give himself a chance. Certainly I wouldn't be shocked if USA go 2-0 up. :shrug:

rocketassist
02-08-2008, 05:08 PM
George I don't think he's saying he's a GOOD claycourter, as he isn't, just maybe not in the clown stakes like Ginepri, Isner or Srichaphan.

Berdych needs to draw Ginepri on the clay so he can complete an unwanted set.

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 05:12 PM
George I don't think he's saying he's a GOOD claycourter, as he isn't, just maybe not in the clown stakes like Ginepri, Isner or Srichaphan.

Berdych needs to draw Ginepri on the clay so he can complete an unwanted set.

He is not a clay clown like those 3 stooges, no one has said that, but he isn't that good.

Actually as you said in 2002 he was at his best on that surface, played with no fear.

rocketassist
02-08-2008, 05:14 PM
He is not a clay clown like those 3 stooges, no one has said that, but he isn't that good.

Actually as you said in 2002 he was at his best on that surface, played with no fear.

Certainly at his worst now for clay, with a passive moonball game and no real zip on his shots.

Berdych being bagelled by LaLo was the funniest. :lol:

tangerine_dream
02-08-2008, 05:14 PM
Great job for Andy to pull out the win in 5 sets. :hatoff: I didn't think he'd do it after losing that break in the fourth.

Wake me up when he beats a top player near their peak on clay.

Relax, your precious Roland Garros clay is safe from the Americans.

adee-gee
02-08-2008, 05:15 PM
Roddick was a better clay courter in 2002 when he had that forehand and he could hit through players- his playing style nowadays actually seems more suited to the clay!
I'd agree with that. He can't hit a forehand winner on ice these days.
Did you fail to read thre part where it said at peak or near peak? Which ones of those were that?

Acasuso at peak in 2002, stop smoking. Coria coming back from a drug ban, Gaudio and Costa past it. Sampras was really peaking at that time as well and as for Gonzo that is as close as you will get.

Robredo and Horna are match up issues in his favour. Davydenko nowhere near his peak and would probably come into the Robredo/Horna circle.

Nadal wasn't even close to the player he is now and handled him comfortably.
You can make excuses for every victory if you like, like the Fedtards make excuses every time he loses. They can't all be flukes though :shrug:

There are many, many worse players on clay than Roddick.

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 05:24 PM
I'd agree with that. He can't hit a forehand winner on ice these days.

You can make excuses for every victory if you like, like the Fedtards make excuses every time he loses. They can't all be flukes though :shrug:

There are many, many worse players on clay than Roddick.

Honestly you aren't illiterate. How hard is it read peak or near peak? It's not at all and everything I said about those wins are factual. Coria coming back 7 months without playing from the drug ban , where is the falsehood there?

Costa, Sampras and Gaudio were near their peak levels at those times? It's Ok, you can look at results and not look deeper into them at the time.

What excuse was there for the Gonzo or Berdych win? Wait there was none, they weren't well past it when Roddick did the business were they?

Voo de Mar
02-08-2008, 05:29 PM
I'd like to see Roddick against Federer or Nadal on Philip Chartier court :drool:

adee-gee
02-08-2008, 05:32 PM
Honestly you aren't illiterate. How hard is it read peak or near peak? It's not at all and everything I said about those wins are factual. Coria coming back 7 months without playing from the drug ban , where is the falsehood there?

Costa, Sampras and Gaudio were near their peak levels at those times? It's Ok, you can look at results and not look deeper into them at the time.

What excuse was there for the Gonzo or Berdych win? Wait there was none, they weren't well past it when Roddick did the business were they?
So how many defeats has he suffered against "peak or near peak' players? He simply hasn't played that many, he's had some shocking losses to the likes of Mutis but it doesn't take away the fact he can play a bit on the surface whether you like it not?
I'd like to see Roddick against Federer or Nadal on Philip Charier court :drool:
Who said he'd be able to compete with them? :confused:

Voo de Mar
02-08-2008, 05:33 PM
Who said he'd be able to compete with them? :confused:

Nobody, it was a little bit out of context :) I think this match up would be a good answer to the question: how good is Roddick on clay?

JimmyV
02-08-2008, 05:35 PM
I love how this thread has like 50 responses while none of the other Davis Cup threads have over 10 tops.

Hate Americans much??

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 05:36 PM
Certainly at his worst now for clay, with a passive moonball game and no real zip on his shots.

Berdych being bagelled by LaLo was the funniest. :lol:

That was funny.

Roddick was actually quite fun to watch in 2002 on clay and I remember the ham antics with the cramps against Chang in that huge 5 setter at RG, very entertaining.

adee-gee
02-08-2008, 05:37 PM
Nobody, it was a little bit out of context :) I think this match up would be a good answer to the question: how good is Roddick on clay?
Not really, it's pretty obvious he'd get his ass kicked but so do most by these 2.

I'd put up an argument that he could hold his own against most other players in the world. Not necessarily beat them, but put up a fight. Which is more than we can say for many of the players George likes on their least favourite surfaces.

justClaudia
02-08-2008, 05:40 PM
One thing you got to give Roddick is that, he at least he turns up and plays for his country and doesn't make excuses to get out of playing.

Exactly.

Unlike many, many others & you know it. Andy gets all my respect for never letting his country down & always raising his level when it's comes to DC.

Voo de Mar
02-08-2008, 05:42 PM
Not really, it's pretty obvious he'd get his ass kicked but so do most by these 2.

Roddick can play against Federer or Nadal in Paris at the earliest in the quarter-final. So, he would be in a good shape playing against one of them at Philip Chartier; self-confident after 4 wins in a row :angel:

Renaud
02-08-2008, 05:43 PM
I think Roddick is top 75 on clay. He is not so bad.

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 05:43 PM
I'd put up an argument that he could hold his own against most other players in the world. Not necessarily beat them, but put up a fight. Which is more than we can say for many of the players George likes on their least favourite surfaces.

Totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand. I wouldn't know I love seeing grasscourt gimps I don't have a problem with it.

Doggy
02-08-2008, 05:44 PM
that's what you get for dating nicole vaidisova

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 05:50 PM
So how many defeats has he suffered against "peak or near peak' players? He simply hasn't played that many, he's had some shocking losses to the likes of Mutis but it doesn't take away the fact he can play a bit on the surface whether you like it not?

Why is this so? He wasn't good enough to get to those latter stages to play them, that should say enough about this.

Acasuso at RG wasn't even in good form when he played him, he had come back from injury. It would be good to see him actually have a go at the TMS events besides Rome.

If he makes the 2nd week at RG, that is like winning the event or 5 days of washouts for that to happen.

tangerine_dream
02-08-2008, 06:05 PM
Nobody, it was a little bit out of context :) I think this match up would be a good answer to the question: how good is Roddick on clay?
Federer can't beat Nadal on clay so does mean he sucks on clay?

Voo de Mar
02-08-2008, 06:07 PM
Federer can't beat Nadal on clay so does mean he sucks on clay?

Federer destroyed Nadal on clay in last year's Hamburg final 2-6 6-2 6-0 :shrug:

Dimonator133
02-08-2008, 06:08 PM
that's what you get for dating nicole vaidisova

what?

tangerine_dream
02-08-2008, 06:13 PM
Federer destroyed Nadal on clay in last year's Hamburg final 2-6 6-2 6-0 :shrug:
Nadal was obviously dead tired in that final. If Federer had him figured out then why couldn't he beat him at RG?

My point there is that excuses can be made for anything.

GWH is always talking about what clowns the Americans are on clay but then when they do win on clay he gets his nose bent out of shape and starts making excuses.

Here's the simple jist of what some of us have been saying for a long while: Roddick is not nearly as bad on clay as some people say he is. His ineptitude on clay is as overrated as these same people going on about how atrocious his backhand is. It's all overrated; they just enjoy taking the piss out of him.

btw, Roddick took a set off of Nadal in the 2004 DC final on clay. In Spain. But of course, that was before Nadal became the unbeatable clay God that we know today, right?

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 06:13 PM
Melzer has lost to Rusedski on clay as well, at least with Roddick, he can't beat him anywhere.

Has a break in the 5th and still can't get it done.

Melzer 8-15 in DC ties and his wins against the likes of Belucci, Mello, G.Lapentti, Boretti, N.Lapentti on fast surfaces, well he beat Oli Rochus.

Voo de Mar
02-08-2008, 06:19 PM
btw, Roddick took a set off of Nadal in the 2004 DC final on clay. In Spain.

And had setpoint for 2 sets to 1 up :p

MisterQ
02-08-2008, 06:19 PM
Good win for Roddick.

Wish the commentators on Versus could pronounce Melzer. :rolleyes:

Action Jackson
02-08-2008, 06:21 PM
And had setpoint for 2 sets to 1 up :p

Not bad against an 18 year old, who just got out of nappies.

Johnny Groove
02-08-2008, 06:36 PM
Not bad against an 18 year old, who just got out of nappies.

The same kid that bent Roger over and had his way 9 months prior in Miami? In that DC final, Nadal was not green at all. He'd won his maiden title, hed had some great scalps that year.

Roddick played well in that clay encounter. Now, of course, Roddick stands as much chance as the Brits in BA, but at that time, it was solid playing from a "clay clown"

dylan24
02-08-2008, 06:37 PM
hey melzer " go fuck yourself"
asshole

Albop
02-08-2008, 06:45 PM
andy roddick had 22 BP in the match :o

Great job melzer :hatoff:

scoobs
02-08-2008, 06:48 PM
hey melzer " go fuck yourself"
asshole
Another bad day at the bookies? :)

dylan24
02-08-2008, 06:55 PM
Another bad day at the bookies? :)

you think i bet on dogs?
i had duck in parlay.
i've got a personal grudge against that austraian fucker
and if i can get to the us open this year, i'll make sure to root for melzer's opponent again

Alex999
02-08-2008, 07:32 PM
Does this mean that Roddick will win FO 08?

pkubik
02-08-2008, 07:48 PM
everyone who said that Roddick is not bad on clay should watch his last year match against Chela in Rome

Black Adam
02-08-2008, 08:12 PM
everyone who said that Roddick is not bad on clay should watch his last year match against Chela in Rome
Everyone who thinks Djokovic has potential on indoor carpet should watch his match last year vs Santoro. One bad match isn't enough to come to conclusions unless it's one random Federer loss which results in everybody asking "is it over for Cheesy" :bounce: "have they figured him out?" etc.

RickDaStick
02-08-2008, 08:14 PM
So a Melzer choke suddenly turns roddick into a RG contender?

CyBorg
02-08-2008, 09:08 PM
He's St. Polten champion, beating "clay-courter" Davydenko in the final :rocker:

The fact that Roddick can beat a two time RG semifinalist Davydenko on clay tells you just how screwed up the clay court game is today.

Puschkin
02-08-2008, 09:28 PM
I wonder if anyone has seen this match.

There is nothing new about Jürgen Melzer, switching from desaster to brilliance and back in a match. He showed great variety, fought hard and lost a close battle due to too many errors. Roddick served very well in crucial situations.

:topic: Koubek/Blake was much more one-sided (which I did not expect) and far less entertaining (which I did expect).

Corey Feldman
02-08-2008, 10:14 PM
lol Melzer, utter shite in a bag.... when this guy loses on clay to Rusedski & Henman (3 sets in a row to both) in the same D.Cup tie at home you realize how pants he is

maybe its just me but Roddick's face is looking older all the time i see him, and a bit fatter - like the pic on main page of ATP.tennis.com

just an observation.

i've got a personal grudge against that austraian fucker
and if i can get to the us open this year, i'll make sure to root for melzer's opponent again:lol::lol:

Jump out and pop him this time Dylan, then go get more pics of Golovin's ass for us.

jonny84
02-08-2008, 10:32 PM
Fight for A Rod, but he pulled it off. Hopefully he will rest and recover for Sundays reverse singles.

Voo de Mar
02-08-2008, 10:35 PM
Fight for A Rod, but he pulled it off. Hopefully he will rest and recover for Sundays reverse singles.

It isn't necessary because before Sunday will be 3-0 for US :shrug:

tangerine_dream
02-08-2008, 10:39 PM
So a Melzer choke suddenly turns roddick into a RG contender?
What has happened to the once mighty Croatian DC team? :awww:

Voo de Mar
02-08-2008, 10:43 PM
What has happened to the once mighty Croatian DC team? :awww:

Ljubo prepares himself to Challenger in RPA ;)

tangerine_dream
02-08-2008, 10:47 PM
Ljubo prepares himself to Challenger in RPA ;)
*snerk* http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/Beeyore/giggle.gif

Marek.
02-08-2008, 10:53 PM
Andy finally won another five setter. :p:o

scoobs
02-08-2008, 10:56 PM
Andy has said the court is absolutely terrible, having only been laid on Tuesday but that "at least it's terrible for both sides"

Lee
02-08-2008, 10:59 PM
Andy has said the court is absolutely terrible, having only been laid on Tuesday but that "at least it's terrible for both sides"

I am watching Blake vs Koubek now and the court is terrible. Almost after every point, the players had to either patch some potholes or have the staff came out. :tape:

the cat
02-08-2008, 11:34 PM
That's a very good gutty gritty win for Roddick over Melzer in 5 sets on the road in Austria and on slow red clay or slow red mud or whatever that surface was. :D :p I think 2008 will be Andy's best clay court season to date. :)

jcempire
02-09-2008, 12:15 AM
well done Roddick

adee-gee
02-09-2008, 12:16 AM
Why is this so? He wasn't good enough to get to those latter stages to play them, that should say enough about this.

Acasuso at RG wasn't even in good form when he played him, he had come back from injury. It would be good to see him actually have a go at the TMS events besides Rome.

If he makes the 2nd week at RG, that is like winning the event or 5 days of washouts for that to happen.
Actually he simply hasn't played that many tournies the last few years, and even when he does he doesn't give it the same effort he gives in DC.

I agree, it would be good. I believe if he went into them with the same attitude he does for DC a QF isn't out of the question.

Zirconek
02-09-2008, 12:20 AM
I am watching Blake vs Koubek now and the court is terrible. Almost after every point, the players had to either patch some potholes or have the staff came out. :tape:

pictures of the court
http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/Tenis/0,,MUL292417-4434,00.html

Action Jackson
02-09-2008, 12:38 AM
Actually he simply hasn't played that many tournies the last few years, and even when he does he doesn't give it the same effort he gives in DC.

I agree, it would be good. I believe if he went into them with the same attitude he does for DC a QF isn't out of the question.

He has played enough of them and look what has happened or do we need to highlight the ones he has played.

This tie is done and dusted now, should be fun if they play Spain or Germany.

Allure
02-09-2008, 12:47 AM
Nadal better watch out. Roddick will rip him a new one at RG.

Merton
02-09-2008, 01:05 AM
Congrats to Andy, he always tries his best at DC. Looking at past DC performances on clay, he has solid wins (O. Rochus, Melzer) and a great win (Berdych). His losses are normal, apart from the one against Tursunov.

No sane person could argue that Andy would prevail on clay against Al. Costa, Gaudio or Coria playing near their best. In my mind, the most important factor in Andy's performances on clay is that he seems to use the period between end of Miami/beginning of Rome as a rest/recovery period, Houston notwithstanding. When Rome comes, he is just not prepared enough to perform at his best. A pity, Andy has a natural feistyness that could come handy in the surface, he showed promising signs in 2001-2002 but no progress since then.

Melzer showed in the 5th set that he didn't have real belief that he could win this match.

~*BGT*~
02-09-2008, 01:22 AM
Andy has said the court is absolutely terrible, having only been laid on Tuesday but that "at least it's terrible for both sides"

I am watching Blake vs Koubek now and the court is terrible. Almost after every point, the players had to either patch some potholes or have the staff came out. :tape:

That's a very good gutty gritty win for Roddick over Melzer in 5 sets on the road in Austria and on slow red clay or slow red mud or whatever that surface was. :D :p I think 2008 will be Andy's best clay court season to date. :)

pictures of the court
http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/Tenis/0,,MUL292417-4434,00.html

That really is a disgraceful looking court. The Austrians should be ashamed of it. :eek:

Kristen
02-09-2008, 02:47 AM
Melzer showed in the 5th set that he didn't have real belief that he could win this match.lol, how unusual :tape:
I hope werner gets a shot on day three, regardless of who he replaces.

Horatio Caine
02-09-2008, 10:37 AM
I think Koubek should be fancying his chances on Sunday, although Blake should, potentially, prove to be a much greater test today imo. He has the power to hit through Koubek, so much will depend on whether he can play consistently enough.

Blake is going to hit through Koubek is he? He will only win if Koubek fucks it up.

If Koubek is going to lose a singles match this weekend, it is more likely to be against Blake. Roddick doesn't hit with any real penetration, these days...he is too passive. Blake, on the other hand, opens his shoulders, and, sure...he has the power to hit through Koubek. I thought even you wouldn't be blind to that? Obviously he is a rightful underdog, but if he can somehow avoid being too inconsistent (and this isn't impossible), he can give himself a chance. Certainly I wouldn't be shocked if USA go 2-0 up. :shrug:

Yes, Blake was to hit through him. :p Any yes, Koubek fucked it up, but you're not getting away with it. :wavey:

Action Jackson
02-09-2008, 12:49 PM
Yes, Blake was to hit through him. :p Any yes, Koubek fucked it up, but you're not getting away with it. :wavey:

Koubek 7-5 5-2, he fucked it up pure and simple, it wasn't like Blake was serving huge bombs or hitting everything dead centre of the racquet. In other Blake won the way it was expected through Koubek's lack of killer instinct.

Bilbo
02-09-2008, 01:03 PM
There are really some people who think Blake won this match on his own, i.e. Gilles. Funny stuff.

Anyone knows Koubek is the better player on clay but his brain won't let him win these matches.

Horatio Caine
02-09-2008, 05:22 PM
Koubek 7-5 5-2, he fucked it up pure and simple, it wasn't like Blake was serving huge bombs or hitting everything dead centre of the racquet. In other Blake won the way it was expected through Koubek's lack of killer instinct.

Blake led 5/3 and *5/4 30/00 didn't he? You could say he fucked it up there, and gave Koubek a second chance, which he couldn't even capitalise on. :shrug:


There are really some people who think Blake won this match on his own, i.e. Gilles. Funny stuff.

Anyone knows Koubek is the better player on clay but his brain won't let him win these matches.

Sure, it is obvious that Koubek is the better clay player. But statistics mean jack shit in most cases...on this occasion, the match-up wasn't so good for Koubek.

As for your comment insinuating that Blake didn't win the match on his own...of course he didn't! I mean, think of a situation where a player is serving unreturnable serves...the opponent "helps" him to win by not getting the ball back into play. What's your point? :silly:

In most cases the better player wins, and that was probably the case yesterday. No need to take anything away from Blake's win. ;)

Merton
02-09-2008, 06:44 PM
Blake led 5/3 and *5/4 30/00 didn't he? You could say he fucked it up there, and gave Koubek a second chance, which he couldn't even capitalise on. :shrug:




Sure, it is obvious that Koubek is the better clay player. But statistics mean jack shit in most cases...on this occasion, the match-up wasn't so good for Koubek.

As for your comment insinuating that Blake didn't win the match on his own...of course he didn't! I mean, think of a situation where a player is serving unreturnable serves...the opponent "helps" him to win by not getting the ball back into play. What's your point? :silly:

In most cases the better player wins, and that was probably the case yesterday. No need to take anything away from Blake's win. ;)

Koubek is a bad matchup for Blake, you could see that clearly in the US Open match, he is an awkward opponent for James because he mixes pace, direction and spin. Those characteristics on paper should make him even more uncomfortable for James on clay.

Action Jackson
02-09-2008, 06:58 PM
Blake led 5/3 and *5/4 30/00 didn't he? You could say he fucked it up there, and gave Koubek a second chance, which he couldn't even capitalise on. :shrug:

Straw clutching are we? That is not the same as 7-5 5-2 match seemngly in control is it on Blake's worst surface, Koubek has been playing quite well and shouldn't lose from there and probably thought he wasn't going to.

Their US Open match was the same Koubek had more than enough chances to take it in 3 sets, but once again he failed mentally. Therefore giving Blake the initiative which he took, like I said the way Blake is winning through Koubek stuffing it up, that's what happened and Blake did what any good pro should do.

tangerine_dream
02-10-2008, 08:53 PM
pictures of the court
http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/Tenis/0,,MUL292417-4434,00.html
Mmm, crater court. :drool:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6365/craterhy4.jpg

"In the third set, Koubek’s game dramatically lost intensity, he acted far too passively and had little to counter Blake’s unspectacular, but consistent performance. The Afro-American cruised to a 5-2 lead and closed the set on his own serve."
Yes, people need to be reminded that Blake is black, in case it actually mattered to someone.

Corey Feldman
02-10-2008, 09:08 PM
reminds me of that youtube clip, when Andy hits a serve that just sticks right in the ground

RickDaStick
02-10-2008, 09:56 PM
reminds me of that youtube clip, when Andy hits a serve that just sticks right in the ground

That was fake, you do know that right? :)

Corey Feldman
02-10-2008, 10:09 PM
of course ;)

:bolt:

Fumus
02-11-2008, 03:32 PM
Roddick playing Melzer, Malisse and Robredo anytime, anywhere is a guaranteed win.

Don't be a smartarse. Look at what I said in that DC final. I said the US would win before the final, so stop the spin. I said it wasn't going to be easy as you thought, there is a very clear difference between those 2 points.

But wasn't I right on both points. :confused:

Jimnik
02-11-2008, 03:48 PM
Andy the dirt(moon)baller. :yeah:

Never in doubt. Melzer's DC record speaks for itself and RAndy's modern style probably suits the dirt quite well. Clearly his objective is to go two rounds further at Roland Garros rather than Wimby. :rolleyes: