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Wood court?

Aloimeh
02-07-2008, 04:35 AM
Has anyone watched matches played on wooden courts? How does the surface behave? Is it unwaxed wood, or a thickly waxed wood? Are there any big matches (tournaments?) played on this surface and how difficult is it to maintain the surface?

Action Jackson
02-07-2008, 04:43 AM
There are no more tournaments played on wood, though DC ties have been played on wooden boards.

Wood is very low bounce and very fast.

Snowwy
02-07-2008, 04:47 AM
I played on wood once, its pretty amaizng.

Action Jackson
02-07-2008, 04:48 AM
Huge servers and porn stars love wood.

Caerula Sanguis
02-07-2008, 04:49 AM
When you sweat all over the floor, isn't that very dangerous?

Farenhajt
02-07-2008, 04:52 AM
Off-topic (but somehow related): Did anyone ever try (even as a pure exho) to play tennis on ice? (Using the skates, of course.) Now THAT would be some speed - I expect ice would be even faster than wood, and the players' speed on skates would of course also increase.

Branimir
02-07-2008, 04:59 AM
off topic: Hahahahahahahahahahhahahaa.
Playing tennis on ice, is impossible my friend. I mean I know if you are good skater you can stop quickly and also using short distance, but imagine just serving on ice... You would either fall every time, or you wouldn't even rich the net, or the serve would be so soft that opponent would wait for the ball on the net.

on topic: I used to play tennis in the gym on wooden floor, and I didn't feel much of the difference between hard court and woo. The only difference is that I was sliding way more more. And yeah... It wasn't really tennis court, just the net and two halves of basketball court.

Farenhajt
02-07-2008, 06:11 AM
off topic: Hahahahahahahahahahhahahaa.
Playing tennis on ice, is impossible my friend. I mean I know if you are good skater you can stop quickly and also using short distance, but imagine just serving on ice... You would either fall every time, or you wouldn't even rich the net, or the serve would be so soft that opponent would wait for the ball on the net.

Not necessarily. Skates have "teeth" which are used to keep balance and prevent inertial/reactive sliding. The outer layer of the balls could also be adjusted for better grip on ice. (For that matter, if the soles of regular tennis shoes are made of some special composite material which has good grip, you don't even need skates.) Therefore it IS possible, but obviously you can't just move the whole Wimbledon to Alaska and pretend everything's still the same.

Branimir
02-07-2008, 06:23 AM
You have wild imagination.

Kolya
02-07-2008, 06:24 AM
Didn't Edberg grow up on wooden courts?

Hence why he served and volleyed, I read this on tennis.com's 60 greatest players list.

trixtah
02-07-2008, 06:32 AM
Huge servers and porn stars love wood.

Is the wood slippery when wet? Is it hard or is it a bit soft?

Action Jackson
02-07-2008, 06:37 AM
Is the wood slippery when wet? Is it hard or is it a bit soft?

Yes, it's very slippery. Try playing tennis on a basketball or volleyball court like surface and you will see.

trixtah
02-07-2008, 06:38 AM
I was talking sexual innuendos :] But wow, I cannot imagine tennis on a wood court. Your coverage and anticipation would have to be top notch.

VolandriFan
02-07-2008, 06:40 AM
Is the wood slippery when wet? Is it hard or is it a bit soft?

Generally speaking, it doesn't stay hard very long after it gets wet.

Action Jackson
02-07-2008, 06:48 AM
Generally speaking, it doesn't stay hard very long after it gets wet.

Depends on how well you breathe.

CmonAussie
02-07-2008, 06:49 AM
Didn't Edberg grow up on wooden courts?

Hence why he served and volleyed, I read this on tennis.com's 60 greatest players list.


:wavey:
apparently Jimmy Connors also learnt to play on wood;)
...
Jimmy said in an interview that the fast/low bouncing wood surface taught him to take the ball early & use an abbreviated backswing (not enough time to take a big Nadal like swipe at the ball).

GuiroNl
02-07-2008, 07:37 AM
Is this the same kind of wood that they use on squash courts?

I play a lot of squash myself. This surface can get slippery when wet, but with the right shoes it's not that bad.

Foxy
02-07-2008, 08:03 AM
I play during winter almost every week indoors on wood. It's super fast and I hate it. You can murder someone if you hit hard enough :) There are no long rallies. But my serve and my two-handed backhand are f*cking clicking. The drop shot doesn't work properly. It continues towards the opponent and doesn't stay low. The slice also doesn't have the desired effect. It acts as a normal flat shot. And the lob. It's a killer. If you let it pass you over there is no way you can run backwards and get it.

BlueSwan
02-07-2008, 08:04 AM
I've played a ton of matches opn a local wood court. That particular court is INSANELY fast and the bounce is very low - the ball just skids off the court. So it definitely doesn't suit players who can't volley for shit, like myself. I'm a decent server though, so I still did okay. Angled sliced serves are extremely effective since the ball just skids away from the receiver. Kick serves are useless, though.

Foxy
02-07-2008, 09:10 AM
Yes, I forgot to mention this sliced serve from deuce court - my favourite serve along with the serve down the middle at AD court. Both are unreturnable.
BlueSwan, it's true kick serves don't work but since I am not a good kick server I cannot say for sure.

jazar
02-07-2008, 09:11 AM
i've played on a wood court before. it was incredibly fun, i was sliding all over the place

lorenz
02-07-2008, 11:25 AM
I've heard about DC tie between Argentina and Paraguay tha was played on a wood court long time ago. I don't know if it's true.

Action Jackson
02-07-2008, 11:28 AM
Yes, lorenz it was true.

ChinoRios4Ever
02-07-2008, 07:46 PM
I've heard about DC tie between Argentina and Paraguay tha was played on a wood court long time ago. I don't know if it's true.

Paraguay: the masters of cheat in sports ;)

Bloodletting
02-07-2008, 08:22 PM
Don't know about that tie with Argentina but I read about this one:

http://www.daviscup.com/ties/tie.asp?tie=10003528

Indeed, that tie was played against Paraguay and France in 1988. The French went with Yannick Noah and Leconte over there and couldn't covercame all the terrible conditions the paraguayans imposed - not only an impossible wooden court, but the arena where it was played had leakings on the ceilings and was quite slippery it seems.

Bloodletting
02-07-2008, 08:23 PM
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/04/02/um/m-01169907.htm

in spanish

ChinoRios4Ever
02-07-2008, 08:27 PM
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2006/04/02/um/m-01169907.htm

in spanish

and Francisco Gonzalez isnt paraguayan, o not? :o

stebs
02-07-2008, 11:01 PM
I've played on a wood court and it was okay but yes they are very fast and big servers on those would never play a set which didn't go to a breaker.

Bloodletting
02-08-2008, 04:16 AM
and Francisco Gonzalez isnt paraguayan, o not? :o

huh??:confused:

tommyg6
05-21-2012, 03:31 AM
Seriously? Someone answer this question. I feel its a legimate question. Can someone dumb it down for me? I think wooden courts would be fine. The balls would bounce fine. so whats the problem?

they could have a few 250 events played on wooden courts, to add some variety to the season.

Paylu2007
05-21-2012, 03:35 AM
they took carpet away, u think they want wooden courts on tour? dont think so....

Freak3yman84
05-21-2012, 03:36 AM
they took carpet away, u think they want wooden courts on tour? dont think so....

Exactly. They're both too fast. Personally, I agree with the thread owner that there needs to be more surface variety. I wouldn't mind wood or carpet tennis courts for tournaments.

tommyg6
05-21-2012, 03:38 AM
they took carpet away, u think they want wooden courts on tour? dont think so....

but that still doesnt answer my question, I want a legimate answer why the atp tour would not consider the surface. I honestly think its a legimate surface. what would be wrong with it? seriously, the balls would bounce fine on it and the players can run on it. I mean its not like they are running over rocks or swamps.

I want convincing set of pros and cons why wooden courts would be considered or not. there must be a reason why its not on the atp tour? what? its too fast for the players? too physically demanding on the knees? too fast for the spectators? or for tv?

this is a question that beckons me.

Freak3yman84
05-21-2012, 03:44 AM
but that still doesnt answer my question, I want a legimate answer why the atp tour would not consider the surface. I honestly think its a legimate surface. what would be wrong with it? seriously, the balls would bounce fine on it and the players can run on it. I mean its not like they are running over rocks or swamps.

I want convincing set of pros and cons why wooden courts would be considered or not. there must be a reason why its not on the atp tour? what? its too fast for the players? too physically demanding on the knees? too fast for the spectators? or for tv?

It's pretty slippery I hear. Probably too fast. Hard to maintain maybe? Favors serve and volleyers WAY too much. It would hurt like a b*tch to fall on it. ...and that's all I can think of lol

tommyg6
05-21-2012, 03:48 AM
It's pretty slippery I hear. Probably too fast. Hard to maintain maybe? Favors serve and volleyers WAY too much. It would hurt like a b*tch to fall on it. ...and that's all I can think of lol

I disagree on the maintenance part, how hard could it be to maintain a wooden court surface assuming its held indoors. I can't imagine a wooden court surface tournament be held outdoors but only indoors would work.

Topspindoctor
05-21-2012, 03:51 AM
wooden courts is a dumb idea

Freak3yman84
05-21-2012, 04:07 AM
I disagree on the maintenance part, how hard could it be to maintain a wooden court surface assuming its held indoors. I can't imagine a wooden court surface tournament be held outdoors but only indoors would work.

It's probably not as easy as you'd think. You can just lay out some wood and play tennis on it. It needs wax or some other material to "perfect" it for a match i bet. That's just a guess though. BTW....http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=117122

TheBoiledEgg
05-21-2012, 04:33 AM
wooden courts is a dumb idea

of course when Nadull wouldnt be ranked in top 100

BroTree123
05-21-2012, 05:46 AM
I'd probably prefer Wood to Blue Clay.

Action Jackson
05-21-2012, 06:12 AM
It's probably not as easy as you'd think. You can just lay out some wood and play tennis on it. It needs wax or some other material to "perfect" it for a match i bet. That's just a guess though.

Karlovic vs. Isner or Raonic on wood, straight to the tiebreakers. It's very slippery, low bounce and skidding so of course the ATP in surface homogenisation want a wooden court :)

r3d_d3v1l_
05-21-2012, 06:17 AM
Karlovic vs. Isner or Raonic on wood, straight to the tiebreakers. It's very slippery, low bounce and skidding so of course the ATP in surface homogenisation want a wooden court :)

Add low bounce to blue clay and there you go, wood court.

Thatīs one of the reasons i want the blue clay so stay as it is. Itīs a really weird surface and it made the top guns lose, so thatīs a plus. And it also made for some really awesomes matches.

tektonac
05-21-2012, 06:56 AM
real wood or laminate?

Action Jackson
05-21-2012, 08:50 AM
Add low bounce to blue clay and there you go, wood court.

Thatīs one of the reasons i want the blue clay so stay as it is. Itīs a really weird surface and it made the top guns lose, so thatīs a plus. And it also made for some really awesomes matches.

Blue clay doesn't skid and bounce on blue clay is a lot higher than wood.

cardio
05-21-2012, 09:33 AM
When you sweat all over the floor, isn't that very dangerous?

Same in basketball, they run even faster and jump lot higher, but they play on wood, dont they ? And there are 10 men sweating all over the place in b-ball and only 2 in tennis .How much can 2 men sweat ?:devil:

If there is wet spot from sweat , it has to be dried, thats all.Thats why ballkids with big court towels were invented.

I would love to see some wood tournament, maybe 250 or
challenger. Guys serving bombs and ball staying on the height of your shoelaces - it is all good !

Sophocles
05-21-2012, 09:51 AM
You could argue that wooden courts are the truest to the spirit of tennis, since the original game, real tennis, was (and is) played on indoor wooden courts. It would be great to see them back. I believe most of the big tournaments and series in the professional game during the 1950s & '60s were played on wood.

lazybear
05-21-2012, 10:03 AM
A little offtopic, but we have a court at the local "sport central" that is unlike anything i've ever seen. You picture this material.

http://www.kisalfold.hu/musipalya_epult_az_iskola_udvaran/cikk/215/2140056/2.jpg

Just obviously without the spaces, but it's really some kind of rubber, or i don't know, really. But it is extremely slow, and the ball stays loooooooow. :D Couldn't find a picture about it, but maybe somebody saw something similar.

Mateya
05-21-2012, 11:38 AM
Stop it.
Tiriac might be reading this thread and could get another bad idea.

:wavey:

Freak3yman84
07-05-2012, 12:13 AM
A little offtopic, but we have a court at the local "sport central" that is unlike anything i've ever seen. You picture this material.

http://www.kisalfold.hu/musipalya_epult_az_iskola_udvaran/cikk/215/2140056/2.jpg

Just obviously without the spaces, but it's really some kind of rubber, or i don't know, really. But it is extremely slow, and the ball stays loooooooow. :D Couldn't find a picture about it, but maybe somebody saw something similar.

Yup! I've played on tennis courts exactly like that! Except it played really fast(but still low)for me. I've never played on grass but it fit the description of what it plays like =O

mystic ice cube
07-05-2012, 12:22 AM
I've played on wooden court too. Was very loud on the footwear & it was difficult to get to anything :D. They are generally extremely fast with a very low bounce. It was more popular decades ago than now however.

Pipsy
07-05-2012, 01:44 AM
I can't help but laugh at some of the posts at this thread just trying to imagine a match where a serve monster like Karlovic would play an ultimate pusher like Devvarman and see how many points the latter would win.

Also Karlovic vs Raonic would be fun. Insta-tie-break ftw!

yesh222
07-05-2012, 02:50 AM
We've played tennis in a gymnasium before. I assume that's what a wood court plays like. It's quite fast.

stewietennis
07-05-2012, 03:03 AM
I imagine more injuries due to the slipperiness. Also, a serve-fest would be boring, just like Isner vs Mahut.

LaFuria
06-09-2013, 11:45 PM
It's time to bring back wood courts.

Today's result has convinced me we need a wood court slam. The only hope to save tennis.

TigerTim
06-10-2013, 12:08 AM
agreed, the Swedish IKEA Masters 1000

Roy Emerson
06-10-2013, 12:18 AM
A slam played on wood would awesome.

motorhead
06-10-2013, 12:54 AM
agreed, the Swedish IKEA Masters 1000

:haha:

LaFuria
06-10-2013, 01:14 AM
How to save tennis:

-Replace the AO with carpet

-Replace RG with blue clay

-Replace Wimbledon with wood

-Profit

abraxas21
06-10-2013, 02:16 AM
How to save tennis:

-Replace the AO with carpet

-Replace RG with blue clay

-Replace Wimbledon with wood

-Profit

only the first replacement would be good for tennis

Johnny Groove
06-10-2013, 03:53 PM
It is basically a basketball court surface.

I have played on the surface a handful of times, always enjoyed it.