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Tipsarevic and Tsonga - can they be consistent and become a new force?

vidanhv
02-06-2008, 04:34 AM
Tsonga made his first GS final after only 4 attempts at majors. Tipsarevic didn't go further then 3th round, but made Federer work for his advancement into the next round. Both of them were very good juniors. Tipsarevic probably plays the longest matches on the tour (if it is 5 setter, Tipsy will probably play it all the way) while Tsonga plays, at least for my taste, extremely attractive tennis. However, they are still underdogs. Can they become major threat on every tournament, or they will stay just a spoilers from the shadow?

Action Jackson
02-06-2008, 04:36 AM
Tsonga bandwagon after a period of derailment is back on track.

Tipsarevic, he will have his moments.

hiperborejac
02-06-2008, 04:48 AM
Tipsy is a hell of a player,BUT... He would be better ranked if he can always play against top 20. When he is a favorite he has motivation problem . If he could deal with with that then we can expect his top 20 debut. Also with more training maybe even top 10!

Tsonga is already there. With new confidence he can reach top 5 till end of year.

Farenhajt
02-06-2008, 05:20 AM
Tsonga is already there. With new confidence he can reach top 5 till end of year.

It seems he'll need to improve his claycourt game. So far he played only one (!) ATP match on clay (at RG) and lost to Roddick (!!).

Merton
02-06-2008, 05:36 AM
Time will tell.

Doggy
02-06-2008, 05:52 AM
Tipsarevic is a consistent force in the bedroom, that's for sure :o

Alex999
02-06-2008, 06:04 AM
Tipsarevic is a consistent force in the bedroom, that's for sure :o

How do you know, lol?

Tispsy is not consistent enough. He can beat anybody (good top players) and than lose to nobody. We'll see with Tsonga soon (Rotterdam will be his first test).

Fensler
02-06-2008, 06:12 AM
Time will tell.

Indeed.

fiigblarke
02-06-2008, 06:55 AM
Yes they can.

Branimir
02-06-2008, 07:36 AM
Tipsarevic is lazy. Reads a lot of literature which I appreciate, but he sacrifice tennis practice for that. Tsonga will be force. He plays incredible. Huge potential.
And the reason he didn't perform well were his injuries, something he couldn't really control, not his mentality. His mentality looks very strong.

fiigblarke
02-06-2008, 08:51 AM
I love how much Janko loves his literature, although I guess it does seem to be a distraction.

Truc
02-06-2008, 09:06 AM
Tipsarevic is lazy. Reads a lot of literature which I appreciate, but he sacrifice tennis practice for that. Tsonga will be force. He plays incredible. Huge potential.
And the reason he didn't perform well were his injuries, something he couldn't really control, not his mentality. His mentality looks very strong.It wasn't completely out of his control either, his coach Winogradski admits it was Tsonga's fault too when he got injured that much. Not enough discipline for a while (he's very fond of his food!)
But that definitely shouldn't be an issue anymore, everybody is praising him now for having learned a lesson from it and being very, very careful in that regard.

(From an article about him in L'Equipe during the AO: (...) Dame blessure repointe sa sale dégaine. Et elle n’est pas venue seule. Car Jo a un vilain défaut, la gourmandise. « Ça cassait souvent, explique Wino, parce qu’il n’était pas capable de faire quinze minutes de gainage par jour ni de manger un peu correctement pour perdre du poids. »)

martine2
02-06-2008, 09:33 AM
I read the whole article in Jo's forum. Thanks for posting it there Truc :D

scoobs
02-06-2008, 10:02 AM
We'll see. I think they'll both have their moments, though I think Tsonga has more going for him in that regard. I'm still not convinced by all this top 10 talk though - we need to see a solid stretch of results, not just one admittedly fabulous tournament. The ones who back it up are the ones who make the impact, not the one tournament wonders.

Foxy
02-06-2008, 10:39 AM
For sure not, both of them.

hiperborejac
02-06-2008, 01:06 PM
It seems he'll need to improve his claycourt game. So far he played only one (!) ATP match on clay (at RG) and lost to Roddick (!!).

True, but Roddick has no claycourt game and is top 10. And I think Tsonga is now better player then Roddick. However Tsonga will improve his clay game. Especially for RG. You'll see!

Horatio Caine
02-06-2008, 01:31 PM
Tsonga now possesses "overrated" status, for me...why is everyone going absolutely crazy over him? :confused:

Tipsy will always be a name to look out for, but I'll be surprised if he has more than a couple of really notable Grand Slam performances.

guille&tati4life
02-06-2008, 01:36 PM
Personally I doubt that either will progress too much further up the rankings. From what I've seen from Tsonga he is highly inconsistent and there's a big chance that his Aussie Open run was a fluke. I don't see him as a slam winner.

Janko, is someone I'd love to be able to say i think will win slams, but I don't. He certainly has talent and can push into the top 30 but I'm not sure he'll get much further. He is inconsistent also and is often to busy with hobbies and women to focus on his game :lol:. If Janko becomes a top 10 player i'd be totally stunned, but hey, I hope I am :p

roxannax
02-06-2008, 01:41 PM
Tipsarevic is a consistent force in the bedroom, that's for sure :o

Now how would you know that, Doggy? Have you slept with him, or know someone who has?

He's kinda sexy looking though, if that's what you mean :)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
02-06-2008, 01:53 PM
Based on their figures I think Jo has more strength and power to achieve more consistent results than Janko has.But I don't know,we'll see! :)

scoobs
02-06-2008, 02:02 PM
I think both of them, when challenging the best players, have to play fairly high risk tennis and I'm not convinced either of them will be able to pull it off consistently enough to keep winning enough matches to propel them right to the top.

Pea
02-06-2008, 02:07 PM
JW was injured alot because he was so unfit as well. Now he's in great shape and looks like it's built his confidence.

Janko's getting there, slowly but surely.:cool:

Iván
02-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Tipsy- fitness must improve and must have luck with injuries if to progress.

Tsonga- nothing will stop him, i think he can win loads of titles.

Mĺnu
02-06-2008, 02:12 PM
I really think Tsonga can break through. From what I read in the French papers, he has incredible physical strength, explosivity and technique (he's beaten all the records for physical tests of French players). He has risen really fast since Queens last year and I can't see why he won't climb again. I hope he'll do well at the French Open...

Tipsarevic is a good player but I don't see a real trend for him to reach the top20, I may be wrong...

platinum
02-06-2008, 05:02 PM
Too early to tell....

*bunny*
02-06-2008, 05:11 PM
I doubt if Tsonga will be a factor during the claycourt season (based on his results on clay and suspected dislike of the surface), but I think he will do well on fast courts, especially on grass.
Tipsarevic will always be a dangerous floater at slams, but he has a game to be a top 30 player at least and I hope he will be one.

r2473
02-06-2008, 07:53 PM
Time will tell.

Well, duh.

That's like asking in circa. 1980, "should I invest in Microsoft?" --Ans: "Time will tell".

Of course time will tell, but that is not much of a prediction.

My prediction is that neither will become a new force. Tipsarevic will fall off the face of the earth and Tsonga will be something of a "Bagdadits". Not a bad player at all, but not really a force.

Farenhajt
02-06-2008, 08:04 PM
Janko's rise depends IMO solely on his head, and that's something that can't be analyzed.

Tsonga will depend on the quality of the field and the luck in the draws: strong aggressive baseliners should be able to stop his S&V game, and restricted to the baseline, he's generally quite playable.

canbera
02-06-2008, 08:45 PM
I remember watching Tipsarevic at a challenger in my club two years ago. he lost in two sets against Korolev and overall didn't play a good match. he's kind of a weird character. most of us have seen the match against Federer, and I also remember his match against Gonzalez in Wimbledon. he is a very dangerous player, but I'm not sure if he'll ever reach the top 20.

Merton
02-06-2008, 09:20 PM
Well, duh.

That's like asking in circa. 1980, "should I invest in Microsoft?" --Ans: "Time will tell".

Of course time will tell, but that is not much of a prediction.

My prediction is that neither will become a new force. Tipsarevic will fall off the face of the earth and Tsonga will be something of a "Bagdadits". Not a bad player at all, but not really a force.

The quality of the answer was consciously chosen to match the quality, and more important, the timing of the thread question. ;)

Sometimes we should be humble enough to determine that we cannot give good answers to some questions. Would you decide upon your investment in stocks based on a single day of a market boom reaction or crush? Would you decide upon which politician to vote for based on a single newspaper headline that caught your attention?

DhammaTiger
02-06-2008, 10:50 PM
The quality of the answer was consciously chosen to match the quality, and more important, the timing of the thread question. ;)

Sometimes we should be humble enough to determine that we cannot give good answers to some questions. Would you decide upon your investment in stocks based on a single day of a market boom reaction or crush? Would you decide upon which politician to vote for based on a single newspaper headline that caught your attention?

excellent response :hatoff: these days everyone wants instant answers. But there is no such things in the world. The only instant things are instant food and instant coffee bothe are bad for us.

calvinhobbes
02-07-2008, 12:09 AM
Jo Wilfred took advantage of the surprise factor, specially against Murray and Gasket. Misha and Rafa weren´t in the mood. I believe he wont´t surprise any one in the next big tournaments. As for Janko, he has no weapons to survive a third round, except for his medusa killer stare, reinforced by bottle-bottom goggles. Also his retro-excavating-machine crunching gesture may chill some unexperienced freshmen. But I don´t forget his total paralysis in the Nalby match one year ago. That is the quintessential Tips. He was reading Crime and Punishment by those days . . . . .

Federerhingis
02-07-2008, 12:33 AM
I guess my answer is sort of in accordance with the last few posts. Only time will tell; Now they both especially Tipsarevic has impressed me quite a bit, he has a big game and his down the line shots are quite powerful. Tsonga too has a very explosive game that is very dangerous and has immense potential. Now will they become the next Novak Djokovics, I don't know, maybe, maybe not?

Talented they both are immensely. :worship:

DhammaTiger
02-07-2008, 01:24 AM
Talent is nothing without application and hard work. As Einstein is reported to have said, "Genius is 10% inspiration and 100% perspiration". So, only time will tell whether they have the necessary temprament to work hard at reaching the top. Does anybody remember Chris Lewis one time wimby finalist and then disappeared?

CyBorg
02-07-2008, 01:38 AM
They have combined for an amazing 0 titles.

Cool!

vidanhv
02-07-2008, 02:35 AM
The quality of the answer was consciously chosen to match the quality, and more important, the timing of the thread question. ;)

Sometimes we should be humble enough to determine that we cannot give good answers to some questions. Would you decide upon your investment in stocks based on a single day of a market boom reaction or crush? Would you decide upon which politician to vote for based on a single newspaper headline that caught your attention?
As the author of the thread, I have to say u r right to some extent. However, predictions always had a problem with "quality" of imposed question and with "timing" for putting the question forward :). U r always in danger to be negated by the time, or to be an "old story" on the clipboard. This is why the most interesting predictions come before the time tells its story. Thanks though for the comment.

Mĺnu
02-07-2008, 09:04 AM
Apparently Tsonga is in extreme good shape in Romania, he destroys everyone in training (he's beaten Gasquet 6-2 5-1 in a practice session).