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Why do people say that Davydenko's game is boring?

Sean.J.S.
02-02-2008, 09:59 AM
I love watching Kolya play! Standing inside the baseline and taking the balls early, those lovely drive volleys and that amazing running forhand which for some reason looks really cool! :drool: :D

Those who think his game is boring need to stop being haters. :wavey:

Action Jackson
02-02-2008, 10:01 AM
They don't like his personality and he does have a 1 dimensional game like 99% of the tour.

Sean.J.S.
02-02-2008, 10:03 AM
They don't like his personality...

But personality doesn't have any relation to one's style of play...

...and he does have a 1 dimensional game like 99% of the tour.

Well you don't hear people complaining about how boring the game styles are of the 98 other players are in the top 100...

Action Jackson
02-02-2008, 10:06 AM
Tursunov is a ball basher, but enough people on MTF like his personality and antics, this is not the same with Davydenko.

GuiroNl
02-02-2008, 10:10 AM
But personality doesn't have any relation to one's style of play...



Well you don't hear people complaining about how boring the game styles are of the 98 other players are in the top 100...

It's because they dislike him the most :). I like his game as well though

Sean.J.S.
02-02-2008, 11:06 AM
Tursunov is a ball basher, but enough people on MTF like his personality and antics, this is not the same with Davydenko.

True. I actually like Tursunov also because of his style but his inconsistancy is annoying! :p

It's because they dislike him the most :). I like his game as well though

True...that's just typical MTF unfortunately. :( Glad you like his game also. :yeah:

Kolya
02-02-2008, 11:09 AM
Davydenko has the worst game in tennis.

How the hell did he reach No. 3? Fixing? :p

Davydenko at his best in late 2006 was very impressive to watch.

gulzhan
02-02-2008, 11:12 AM
Davydenko has one of the most beautiful and absolutely not borning games... you may not like his personality (i don't like it much myself :o) but saying he has a boring game is simply stupid :shrug:

VolandriFan
02-02-2008, 11:14 AM
Because he's skinny and bald. I can guarantee his game would be more interesting for lots of people if he looked like Ferrero or Moya.

His personality shouldn't be much of a factor because people form opinions before getting to know anything about a person.

LeChuck
02-02-2008, 11:29 AM
I don't support Kolya, but he is great. His playing style is very pleasing on the eye, and his interviews are usually entertaining.

Sean.J.S.
02-02-2008, 12:46 PM
Nice to see I'm not the only one who appreciates his game. :yeah:

Montego
02-02-2008, 12:51 PM
Wow, I was surprised that people find Davy's game boring. For me he is in Top3 when it comes to watching the game. He was AWESOME in US Open, I though he would win it.

Kolya
02-02-2008, 12:53 PM
Watch this match if you find his game boring:

My8eTFH36Cs

Tennis-Engineer
02-02-2008, 01:40 PM
If he is a great player he should beat Federer at least once.

Kolya
02-02-2008, 01:43 PM
If he is a great player he should beat Federer at least once.

Whatever mate.

We're just saying his game isn't boring.

cmurray
02-02-2008, 02:35 PM
Tursunov's game is much uglier than Davydenko's. I "like" Dima, but I'd rather watch Kolya.

Federerhingis
02-02-2008, 03:37 PM
They don't like his personality and he does have a 1 dimensional game like 99% of the tour.

Yeah his game is just pretty predictable, once his pretty potent groundies start missing or they jsut aren't matching well against his opponent he can really lose it. On the other hand if you watch tennis religiously or have followed the game, it becomes a predictable game, you know how the top players play. Even Federers game is predictable, you know he'l use a pretty complete repertoire to win matches, if his slice is taking a good bite out of the court he'l use that tactic ad naseum. We all know what his weapons are and under pressure he usually serves even better.

On the other hand this does not make Davydenko any less talented, he's quite an athlete and for being so slim he packs a pretty nasty punch on his groundies especially the backhand. Of course it has more to do with timing, taking the ball early and using his opponents pace and redirecting.

Burrow
02-02-2008, 04:04 PM
If he is a great player he should beat Federer at least once.

Well he is great if he has reached number 3 in the world.

muniu
02-02-2008, 04:25 PM
He is boring bec he hasn't a "cute" face :o blah blah
I love his game , unbelievable shots , great timing, it's always interesting to watch his matches for me :) Definitely he deserves to be in the top 5 :wavey:

stebs
02-02-2008, 06:34 PM
Different strokes for different folks, it is fine for people to find a game boring.

What's stupid is when people who never watch the PMK say he is a no talent grinder and even proffessional commentators say this when it couldn't be further from the truth.

DhammaTiger
02-02-2008, 11:16 PM
I don't find Davydenko's game boring at all. I can watch his matches anytime and appreciate his shots. In fact he is my favourite Russian player.All those who hate on him are just prejudiced and do not appreciate good tennis if it hits them in the face.

JimmyV
02-03-2008, 12:03 AM
I always used to think the same thing, but ever since I saw him play Nadal at Rome last year my opinion has changed.

The guy really is gifted, I mean he's been to 4 Slam semi's, and if he didn't implode mentally under pressure hew would have been a finalist at the French last year.

tennizen
02-03-2008, 01:24 AM
I find neither his game nor his personality boring. The guy is Russian, can't communicate well enough in English. No way of knowing what his personality is like. What little comes across in his English interviews seems pretty interesting to me. I think this is a classic case of "lack of support driven by looks":lol:

Sean.J.S.
02-03-2008, 06:25 AM
If he is a great player he should beat Federer at least once.

We're not discussing whether or not Kolya is a great player. We're discussing the fact that people say that his game is boring, when in fact I and many others love his game. :shrug:

I find neither his game nor his personality boring. The guy is Russian, can't communicate well enough in English. No way of knowing what his personality is like. What little comes across in his English interviews seems pretty interesting to me. I think this is a classic case of "lack of support driven by looks":lol:

Yes...I agree that he actually does have a personality. I remember he was funny when he got his birthday cake during RG last year. :lol: And when he visited the aquarium at some Grand Slam (I think it was the AO) he was very funny also. :p

RogerFan82
02-03-2008, 05:20 PM
Kolya Rocks !!! He is the best attacking baseliner on tour. :worship::worship: I love watching him play.

KaxMisha
02-03-2008, 05:36 PM
Watch this match if you find his game boring:

My8eTFH36Cs

Ah, yes. I still cannot believe he lost that match. He had the better statistics on both service and return and also won more points in total. Ah well, Davydenko is and has always been a mental midget. As for his game though - people who say his game is boring are, in most cases, just transferring the fact that they think that HE is boring onto his game. It is great to watch, really.

KaxMisha
02-03-2008, 05:38 PM
Different strokes for different folks, it is fine for people to find a game boring.

What's stupid is when people who never watch the PMK say he is a no talent grinder and even proffessional commentators say this when it couldn't be further from the truth.

I also marvel at the amount of people who refer to Davydenko as a grinder. I mean, what the fuck? Do they even watch his matches? He is a very offensive-minded and proactive player. Calling him a grinder is just :retard:.

Okonsky
02-03-2008, 05:51 PM
Well he is great if he has reached number 3 in the world.

Simply as that.

TheBoiledEgg
02-03-2008, 09:32 PM
Kolya makes Agassi's game look boring in comparison

and Agassi can do no wrong in medias eye :rolleyes:

ArgieFan
02-03-2008, 09:36 PM
Davydenko's game is not boring at all.

His personality inside the court IS really boring.

Kolya
02-04-2008, 12:12 AM
Davydenko is actually funnier than most people on tour.

People just don't bother to listen to his interviews.

General Suburbia
02-04-2008, 12:43 AM
Tennis as an entertainment medium doesn't like Davydenko (especially in America) not because he has a boring game, but because he has no charisma on court. And he's not the best looking player on court. Lendl, anyone?

DhammaTiger
02-04-2008, 01:30 AM
Sampras had no charisma and was boring, yet people did not hate him like they hate kolya. No one dared say he was boring and one dimensional.

Kolya
02-04-2008, 02:44 AM
Sampras had no charisma and was boring, yet people did not hate him like they hate kolya. No one dared say he was boring and one dimensional.

Yeah but Sampras won 14 GS.

General Suburbia
02-04-2008, 03:09 AM
Sampras had no charisma and was boring, yet people did not hate him like they hate kolya. No one dared say he was boring and one dimensional.
His audience gobbled up what little he gave, though. At the very least, he showed some emotion ("yes!" or screaming) when things really mattered. And then there's his AO match against Courier, hitting aces through tears, winning matches while puking through them, etc. He didn't show much, but you knew how much heart he gave for the game. He gave tennis fans arguably the greatest rivalry of the 90s. And he could speak English.

trixtah
02-04-2008, 03:20 AM
It's good to read these responses, though, since I would have assumed the whole "boring" line was MTF's accepted view on his game. Nikolay is in no way a grinder--he's always going for his shot and making good use of the entire court. Fun to watch, really.

Allure
02-04-2008, 03:35 AM
I don't think he's boring. He's okay in the looks department, not as ugly as people say.

kobulingam
02-04-2008, 04:10 AM
Main reason is.... his appearance. He's not that handsome (he would be considered "Ugly" by most).

So SUBCONSCIOUSLY people hate his game. In reality, his game is much more exciting than 90% of the ATP.

juvvi
02-04-2008, 04:42 AM
Davydenko is a superb player to watch. Hits the ball cleaner than most on tour, and has perfect baseline game. Haters are boring.

Action Jackson
02-04-2008, 05:57 AM
Davydenko just used to get the ball back, but he really improved when he schooled Henman and Canas at the Aussie Open and then he was trying, he kept up and excellent level.

Too bad he shits his pants when he has chances to beat the best players.

madmanfool
02-04-2008, 10:35 AM
a walnut has more charisma than Davydenko

Kolya
02-04-2008, 10:48 AM
a walnut has more charisma than Davydenko

A walnut is smarter than you.

LeChuck
02-04-2008, 11:01 AM
Davydenko is actually funnier than most people on tour.

People just don't bother to listen to his interviews.

Agreed. His interviews are usually incredibly entertaining.

Sean.J.S.
02-05-2008, 12:06 PM
I actually compare Davydenko to Nadia Petrova a lot. Both of them are Russian, former #3 ranked players, are both very talented and have enjoyable games but people don't seem to appreciate it and both of them have lots of haters because of they aren't the two best looking players. People complain because Nadia shows "too much" emotion...which is just silly. :retard:

I'm a big fan of both Nadia and Nikolay. :)

a walnut has more charisma than Davydenko

Moron. :retard:

A walnut is smarter than you.

Touché ! :yeah:

Agreed. His interviews are usually incredibly entertaining.

They are indeed. :)

Jaap
02-05-2008, 12:50 PM
I don't find Davydenko boring, I just think he is a ****.

Hope this helps.

dan_the_man1983
02-05-2008, 07:11 PM
His game aint bad.

Impressed me during the semi finals of the Rome Masters last year by giving Rafa hell.

He also gave him a good match at the Masters Cup in 2006.

Corey Feldman
02-05-2008, 10:35 PM
I don't find Davydenko boring, I just think he is a ****.

Hope this helps.It does :worship:

scoobs
02-05-2008, 10:43 PM
If someone's style of play and on-court attitude turn you off, it doesn't actually make you a hater :wavey:

madmanfool
02-06-2008, 03:04 PM
A walnut is smarter than you.

12 year old?

AnitaOlea
02-06-2008, 03:59 PM
I don't thing his GAME is boring like robredo's for example, but I do find him boring to watch, I think it's because of his lack of emotions.. u never see him celebrating or nothing is like watching a robot...

HybridTheory
02-06-2008, 05:01 PM
His game isn't boring at all. I do understand people find him having a boring oncourt personality, but is that really important? Tennis is about the game, and player's additudes haven't got anything to do with that.
From what I can say about him according to my own experiences, Kolya is a very nice guy. I have never seen him doing or saying bad things. Oh, and to people who think he's boring, you should read of his interview translated from Russian. The guy has a great sense of humor. :yeah:

cmorais24
02-06-2008, 06:08 PM
I don't say that. I think Davydenko has an interesting intense game. I hope he can still manage to go recover is old form.

Sean.J.S.
02-07-2008, 11:35 AM
I don't find Davydenko boring, I just think he is a ****.

Hope this helps.

Yes it helped me discover that you're the real ****. Thanks! :D

If someone's style of play and on-court attitude turn you off, it doesn't actually make you a hater :wavey:

Did I say that it did? :retard:

scoobs
02-07-2008, 12:00 PM
I love watching Kolya play! Standing inside the baseline and taking the balls early, those lovely drive volleys and that amazing running forhand which for some reason looks really cool! :drool: :D

Those who think his game is boring need to stop being haters. :wavey:
If someone's style of play and on-court attitude turn you off, it doesn't actually make you a hater :wavey:

Did I say that it did? :retard:

Let's quickly review the evidence, shall we?

:dance:

Månu
02-07-2008, 12:37 PM
Let's quickly review the evidence, shall we?

:dance:

Touché :haha:

With no hate, Davydenko should just learn to smile on the court... English is not a reason, Tsonga or Gasquet can't speak it but they don't face such a dislike...

Kolya
02-08-2008, 01:34 AM
Touché :haha:

With no hate, Davydenko should just learn to smile on the court... English is not a reason, Tsonga or Gasquet can't speak it but they don't face such a dislike...

Borg never smiled.

You must really hate him then.

Sean.J.S.
02-08-2008, 07:36 AM
Let's quickly review the evidence, shall we?

:dance:

Um...can you read? :retard: I said that people who think that his game is boring need to stop being haters, because his game isn't boring and I don't see how people can be haters just because they dislike his on-court attitude.

On the other hand, you said that if his game and his on court attitude turn you off it doesn't mean you're a hater. I never said that if you dislike somebody's on-court attitude it makes you a hater, but you put those words into my mouth. :shrug: Personally there are a lot of players who I enjoy to watch their matches because I like their games', but dislike their on-court attitude so therefore I'm not a fan. Should I be a hater because of it? No...because I'm more interested in the tennis than the players' personalities. :wavey:

Let's quickly review the evidence, shall we?

Those who think his game is boring need to stop being haters. :wavey:

If someone's style of play and on-court attitude turn you off, it doesn't actually make you a hater :wavey:

Did I say that it did? :retard:

:dance:

So sorry to embarrass you but I strongly recommend that you take a 7 day a week English course. :sad:

Did you understand everything I have said or would you like me to rephrase it into two-year-old talk just for you? :awww:

Touché :haha:

Unfortunately not. :wavey:

nanoman
02-08-2008, 10:14 AM
Because everybody around you(commentators included) says he is boring grinder. To change that perspective you need to watch his matches. And why should you do that if he is ugly and is never ever on the showcourts ?
What's more, he never ever is going to beat Federer or Nadal(too much of mental midget). And it doesn't help that he is not wearing Nike or Adidas.

scoobs
02-08-2008, 11:31 AM
Um...can you read? :retard: I said that people who think that his game is boring need to stop being haters, because his game isn't boring and I don't see how people can be haters just because they dislike his on-court attitude.

On the other hand, you said that if his game and his on court attitude turn you off it doesn't mean you're a hater. I never said that if you dislike somebody's on-court attitude it makes you a hater, but you put those words into my mouth. :shrug: Personally there are a lot of players who I enjoy to watch their matches because I like their games', but dislike their on-court attitude so therefore I'm not a fan. Should I be a hater because of it? No...because I'm more interested in the tennis than the players' personalities. :wavey:

Let's quickly review the evidence, shall we?







:dance:

So sorry to embarrass you but I strongly recommend that you take a 7 day a week English course. :sad:

Did you understand everything I have said or would you like me to rephrase it into two-year-old talk just for you? :awww:



Unfortunately not. :wavey:
A player's game = their style of play + their on court attitude.

So sorry.

You should stop digging this hole, you silly child.

Sean.J.S.
02-08-2008, 11:39 AM
A player's game = their style of play + their on court attitude.

So sorry.

You should stop digging this hole, you silly child.

:bs:

Time to take your pills you moron. :o :awww: Since when is a player's on court attitude considered part of their game? :rolls: You make me laugh so hard. :D

That's like saying somebody's appearance (whether or not they are attractive) determines how smart they are. :retard:

A player's game is the way they play tennis, it's NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR PERSONALITY/ONCOURT ATTITUDE! DO YOU UNDERSTAND!? :wavey:

And I'm not the silly child, I can understand English unlike you. :)

scoobs
02-08-2008, 11:46 AM
:bs:

Time to take your pills you moron. :o :awww: Since when is a player's on court attitude considered part of their game? :rolls: You make me laugh so hard. :D

That's like saying somebody's appearance (whether or not they are attractive) determines how smart they are. :retard:

A player's game is the way they play tennis, it's NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR PERSONALITY/ONCOURT ATTITUDE! DO YOU UNDERSTAND!? :wavey:

And I'm not the silly child, I can understand English unlike you. :)
So you don't think Lleyton Hewitt's fighting attitude, his c'mons and his fist pumps are as much a part of what he brings to the court as his backhand and his lobs?

Okay.

I've better things to do than getting into a pissing contest with a child who should be concentrating on his schoolwork.

My basic point stands anyway.

If you want to define his "game" as purely how he hits forehands and backhands, then if someone doesn't find how he hits his shots and constructs his points particularly enjoyable to watch, it still doesn't make them a hater.

So maybe you should grow up, stop being so defensive and insulting if someone disagrees with your point of view, and generally get a grip, mkay? You take care now.

Sean.J.S.
02-08-2008, 11:58 AM
So you don't think Lleyton Hewitt's fighting attitude, his c'mons and his fist pumps are as much a part of what he brings to the court as his backhand and his lobs?

Okay.

I've better things to do than getting into a pissing contest with a child who should be concentrating on his schoolwork.

You take care now.

Omg can you get any dumber? You keep going off topic and pretty much start putting words into my mouth.

Yes Lleyton's fighting attitude, his c'mons and his fist pumps are as much a part of what he brings to the court as his backhand and his lobs but I never said it wasn't. :confused:

I'm saying that a player's game and their on-court attitude are two different things. When Lleyton says "I want to improve my game" do you think he goes onto the practice court and reherses his "C'mon!"s for an hour? :rolls:

Yes I also suggest you shut up and piss off also before you make more of a fool of yourself. Instead you should be spending your free time learning your native language. :wavey:

scoobs
02-08-2008, 12:00 PM
Omg can you get any dumber? You keep going off topic and pretty much start putting words into my mouth.

Yes Lleyton's fighting attitude, his c'mons and his fist pumps are as much a part of what he brings to the court as his backhand and his lobs but I never said it wasn't. :confused:

I'm saying that a player's game and their on-court attitude are two different things. When Lleyton says "I want to improve my game" do you think he goes onto the practice court and reherses his "C'mon!"s for an hour? :rolls:

Yes I also suggest you shut up and piss off also before you make more of a fool of yourself. Instead you should be spending your free time learning your native language. :wavey:
see above, brat - you STILL don't have a point.

Sean.J.S.
02-08-2008, 12:12 PM
My basic point stands anyway.

If you want to define his "game" as purely how he hits forehands and backhands, then if someone doesn't find how he hits his shots and constructs his points particularly enjoyable to watch, it still doesn't make them a hater.

So maybe you should grow up, stop being so defensive and insulting if someone disagrees with your point of view, and generally get a grip, mkay? You take care now.

I said that Kolya's game is interesting and the fact that people dislike him because his game is "boring" when in fact they only dislike him because he isn't goodlooking/doesn't have a good personality should stop hating him just because of that. I made my point very brief in my first post and if you actually read (and read them properly :o :unsure:) my other posts in this thread then you would understand what I meant.

You're the one who needs to grow up. You're hardly acting like a mature adult which you should be at your age. Mind you MTF is full of annoying middle-aged idiots like you who have nothing better to do with their lives. :(

And I wasn't disagreeing with your point of view, you actually disagreed with mine first and then I disagreed with your's because you misread my post. :retard:

see above, brat - you STILL don't have a point.

That's cause you edited your post while I was typing my response to your original reply. :retard: Read my response now. ^^

And I thought you said that you were leaving anyway. :wavey: :)

scoobs
02-08-2008, 12:16 PM
Interesting to you, child.

That doesn't make it interesting to everyone.

Maybe they just dislike how he plays and it has nothing to do with his on court attitude or how he looks?

Who the hell are you to decide what other people REALLY mean when they say they dislike how he plays?

Other people are allowed to find it boring, and it don't make them haters.

So sorry.

Please try again.

Sean.J.S.
02-08-2008, 12:23 PM
I was giving the opinion that I believe that some (not necessarily all) people who say that Kolya's game is boring, actually only dislike him because of his looks/apparently boring personality. You, yourself and many others know it's true but won't admit it. :sad:

That is my opinion and I am entitled to it. That is why I come to MTF, to give my opinions on tennis and I'm not going to let some idiot like you (who can't read) stop me. :wavey:

scoobs
02-08-2008, 12:26 PM
I was giving the opinion that I believe that some (not necessarily all) people who say that Kolya's game is boring, actually only dislike him because of his looks/apparently boring personality. You, yourself and many others know it's true but won't admit it. :sad:

That is my opinion and I am entitled to it. That is why I come to MTF, to give my opinions on tennis and I'm not going to let some idiot like you (who can't read) stop me. :wavey:
You believe what you want - if other people think it's crap, they won't hesitate to tell you so, like I am doing.

Glad we cleared all that up, and I look forward to setting you straight in the future.

Eventually, you may actually post something worth paying attention to, and that is my hope.

Sean.J.S.
02-08-2008, 12:33 PM
You believe what you want - if other people think it's crap, they won't hesitate to tell you so, like I am doing.

Glad we cleared all that up, and I look forward to setting you straight in the future.

Eventually, you may actually post something worth paying attention to, and that is my hope.

It's my opinion and I am entitled to it. And in case you haven't noticed the majority of the peope in this thread agree with that opinion of mine and the few who didn't quickly stated their point and moved on, whereas you persist to attempt to prove to me that somehow my "opinion" is wrong when there is no such thing as a right or wrong opinion anyway. I'm ok with people who disagree with my opinions but when they are telling me that my opinion is wrong then that is not ok and I will let people know that.

Yes it is cleared up: I'm right and you're wrong. :wavey:

Setting me straight? :rolls: Well your frail attempts didn't exactly work here so what makes you think that it's going to magically work in the future? :spit:

Obviously you thought that this thread was worth paying attention to otherwise you wouldn't have posted seven times (and counting) in it. :)

scoobs
02-08-2008, 12:36 PM
So because some people agree with you, naturally you're right.

I was right. You are a waste of time.

Have fun.

Sean.J.S.
02-08-2008, 12:39 PM
When I said "I'm right and you're wrong" I meant that I'm correct in the sense that I can have my opinion and you're not in saying that my opinion is wrong.

I didn't mean that my opinion was correct, I'm not like you who says that your's is correct. :rolleyes:

Yes...you really proved that you are right. :confused: :retard:

Oh I will have fun, thanks. :awww:

Corey Feldman
02-08-2008, 12:51 PM
Would you 2 stop flirting ;)

Sean.J.S.
02-08-2008, 12:55 PM
Well if he didn't misread my post none of this would have happened. :rolleyes:

Mind you he probably just did that on purpose so he could get into a deep conversation with me which I would never do with an idiot like him, otherwise. :o

Rogiman
02-08-2008, 01:34 PM
A player's game = their style of play + their on court attitude.

So sorry.

You should stop digging this hole, you silly child.
:bs:

Sean.J.S.
02-08-2008, 02:00 PM
:bs:

Nice to see you know something about tennis. :)

El Magnifico
02-23-2008, 10:46 AM
People who don't have a clue about tennis, or have not played to any level themselves are really the only ones stupid enough to call his game boring. Anyone who knows anything about the game knows how much skill it takes to play like he does, and how difficult it is to take the ball that early. Tennis is not a personality contest, and if you can't enjoy watching Davydenko you shouldn't even call yourself a fan of tennis.