How do you imagine the aggressive Fed of today?

02-02-2008, 05:59 AM
Obviously, everyone is assuming and expecting (fans and opponents alike) that Federer WILL step it up, one way or the other, alone or with a coach, to find a serious makeover of his game and restore the good degree of aggressiveness lost. What interests me is not WHETHER that will happen (it MUST happen or he'll be in an unexpectedly deep trouble), but what shape it will take. Do you think Federer can revive the good old "God" from a few years ago? Has "the old Fed" been pushed aside for a year or two by "the new Fed", yet is ready to be summoned at any time? Or you perhaps think that too long a period of passiveness must have taken its toll on his aggressive abilities? The aggression he could produce today (this year) - can it leave the opps without answer? Or the field will carefully watch and try to prevent the upstep?

In my opinion, Federer really needs to try and find his renewed form for Wimbledon and Beijing specifically - getting the sixth one in the row would definitely be the most prestigious among all of his "of all times" so far, and the Olympic Gold really IS something he wants badly, but I really don't think he'd be a top-notch contender in London 2012 - aged 30-31, with the current youngsters in the prime age of 24-26, combined perhaps with some even younger guys who'll shine soon, getting the London gold would be a dubious endeavour.

And please, restrain from expressing hopes (they of course never die) and try to give some levelled predictions/analyses.

02-02-2008, 06:02 AM
It wasn't that long ago we saw Federer playing aggressively at the Masters Cup. Have you forgotten already?

Action Jackson
02-02-2008, 06:04 AM
One tournament and Federer is finished, got to love MTF.

02-02-2008, 06:19 AM
He's done. He should just quit now and not tarnish his legacy any further.

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02-02-2008, 08:37 AM
he usually plays aggressive when he needs to. he summons the bad guy and it's over for the opponent. it didn't work against tipsaervic, berdych, blake and djokovic though.

02-02-2008, 12:46 PM
I'm not counting the AO loss as a real ppicture of how Federer matches up with Djokovic or agrressive play in general, as he was doing his best in a weakened state. I am not taking away from Djokoivc's excellent, tough minded, and aggressive performance, he may well have had the goods to beat a physically fitl, match tough Roger, but we don't know that from this particular match. That is to be seen, coming attractions etc etc...Anyone who think Federer was in good shape for this tournament would argue otherwise, but I know Roger very well, and he was drained from the intestinal troubles the week before, and really did amazingly well for all of that. Thus spake Avothrustra...

Commander Data
02-02-2008, 01:49 PM
I personally think Fed is too passiv quite often. Not only this AO but also last Wimbledon as well as at the FO. I do not think he sees it that way though, or else he would have played differently.

Maybe now he will get a bit more agressiv now but I doubt it. I think a good coach would be needed........Darren Cahill...

02-02-2008, 01:59 PM
Lets just see.

He is one the greatest players ever, you can never ever discount him after one "poor" tournament.

PS: I don't like Federer.

02-02-2008, 02:30 PM
One tournament and Federer is finished, got to love MTF.

I know he really should call it a day, his cause as a professional tennis player is just about pointless. :tape:

On the other hand seriously, even a matchless Federer beat the likes of Blake and Berdych in straights, barring yeah they gave him a tough time. Nevertheless, they are no chumps, well mentally I don't think they have much too account for, at least so far in their careers mentally I think they've left a lot to speculate about instead of cementing their prowess as top players.

He'l be fine, he will probably pick up some valuable points during the spring hardcourt swing and it will be back to normal. Wimbledon will be the defining point for this season for sure, it would be fantastic for Roger to win the GOLD or any medal, the swiss would only be even more proud of him. He will have great chances at both venues, unless Wimbledon's grass courts have become yet slower and the hardcourts at Beijing are as slow as the courts at Indian Wells.

02-02-2008, 05:10 PM
Until AO 2008 almost all of Roger´s rivals crumbled themselves before him. Now he must demolish some of them. That will impose more determination and much more will from his part. When some posters pointed out that the worst enemy of Federer is himself, they were talking about this scenario . . . . . .:eek::eek::eek:

02-02-2008, 05:34 PM
It wasn't that long ago we saw Federer playing aggressively at the Masters Cup. Have you forgotten already?

OK. Thank God someone else said that. That was my first thought when I read this. I was like "Wasn't he aggressive at the Master Cup, or did I just lose my mind?"

02-02-2008, 05:42 PM
"A serious makeover"? I know that the thread starter talks about "ExFed" these days but this is "evidence" based on one tournament, even though it is a slam. Roger will eventually need to twist his game to compensate for the inevitable decline in speed, similarly to what Sampras did after 1998. But it is premature to say we are there yet.

02-02-2008, 05:42 PM
Perhaps someone who has watched tennis longer and knows a little more about it (GWH?) can refute this, but isn't it part of the Federer mythology that he lost all those matches to Hewitts and Agassis because he insisted on coming on so much and giving them a target? At some point, he realized his defense and backcourt game could get the job done, so he stopped, and hence, stopped losing and became nearly unbeatable.

Assuming that's how the story goes, it makes sense that we don't see Roger play extremely aggressively consistently. He seems more willing to do it indoors or last year at the AO, but it seems he will only do it in patches, and then he gets reluctant to do it. If it's something he used to do and it got him in trouble, it would make sense on a purely psychological level that he would like to avoid it.

02-02-2008, 05:43 PM
One tournament and Federer is finished, got to love MTF.

If he won the AO we would have speculation about the golden slam and staying undefeated for the year, now that he lost he is finished. Never in doubt for MTF :D

02-02-2008, 05:48 PM
he's not gonna change a thing.

02-02-2008, 05:53 PM
I love you.