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Whatever happened to low key slam celebrations?

sawan66278
01-30-2008, 11:43 PM
After watching Djokovic win the AO and Maria on the...um...WTA side (it hurts to even place that tour in the same sentence as as Novak)...I came to the realization: each player appears to trying outdo the previous slam winner. Roger, Rafa...they all fall to the ground as if shot by some bullet...each trying to emulate the REAL LEGEND...Bjorn Borg himself.

The last time I saw an actual celebration that was NOT over the top was Marat at the AO a few years ago. When will the madness stop?

trixtah
01-30-2008, 11:51 PM
why do you care?

rocketassist
01-30-2008, 11:55 PM
I prefer emotional slam celebrations- Goran's was unbeatable.

Johnny Groove
01-30-2008, 11:57 PM
Shit, if i won a slam, I'd strip nude and run around the court

JimmyV
01-30-2008, 11:58 PM
LOL I hope this thread is a joke.

I wish they were all like Goran's in 2001, that rocked.

anousleshommes@h
01-30-2008, 11:58 PM
I prefer emotional slam celebrations- Goran's was unbeatable.

Goran was never meant to win a grand slam title, HE HAD EVERY BIT OF RIGHT TO BE OVER THE TOP EMOTIONAL... I remember watching that match... pure joy!

Sunset of Age
01-30-2008, 11:58 PM
I can't help but admit that I like the 'over the top' celebrations. The more falling-to-the-ground, tears, family hugs, etc... the better, IMHO.

Yeah, I like my favs to be emotional on their victories. :angel:

scoobs
01-30-2008, 11:59 PM
Still not a one of them has taken all their clothes off and run naked around the court in a victory lap.

But I think it's trending the right way...

HNCS
01-31-2008, 12:01 AM
what the heck...i'm thinking federer should cry evertime he wins a slam. and i was sooo dissapointed when nole didn't cry when he won the AO this year.:angel:

AND by the way in those miliseconds of winning no one is going to think okay so last year roger did this i'm now going to bend my knee this way, touch the floor that way and close my eyes this way....hopefully did better than them.

scarecrows
01-31-2008, 12:02 AM
Santoro/Llodra all the way

JimmyV
01-31-2008, 12:05 AM
I loved the Israeli's celebration when they won the doubles. Them piggybacking around the court was great.

sawan66278
01-31-2008, 12:34 AM
Shit, if i won a slam, I'd strip nude and run around the court

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Goran was never meant to win a grand slam title, HE HAD EVERY BIT OF RIGHT TO BE OVER THE TOP EMOTIONAL... I remember watching that match... pure joy!

Goran's celebration, for me, was the most emotionally satisfying. Because of all the years of agony and HOW he won...it might very well be the best win reaction ever.

BUT, Roger always falling to the ground...which invariably leads to an awkward moment for the loser (Do I go around the net and pick him up? And if I don't, do I look like a jerk?)

I still remember Stefan's dangerous leap over the net.

Its just a matter of time until we start seeing NFL caliber celebrations.

But, why, given the fiery personalities of the past, were the celebrations back in the day more muted?

Sunset of Age
01-31-2008, 12:37 AM
But, why, given the fiery personalities of the past, were the celebrations back in the day more muted?

Interesting question. I'd like to think that nowadays, men are more 'allowed' to show their soft side, i.e., openly expressed emotions, i.e. TEARS.
As for me - I think that's a very good thing indeed! :worship:

Action Jackson
01-31-2008, 12:37 AM
Another great thread from sawan the genius.

People are different and are going to react differently in these situations, not everyone can win a Slam.

As long as they don't ignore their opponent, then can do what they want.

Young Boss
01-31-2008, 12:38 AM
it's a major accomplishment. let players celebrate all they want.

Alex999
01-31-2008, 12:42 AM
Why low key? When you win a GS you are the best tennis player in the world at that moment. Celebrate and enjoy yourself. I'd go crazy myself too. Why not?

dejosav
01-31-2008, 01:00 AM
if i won a slam, I'd strip nude and shit around the court

I thought you said this for a second :haha: It's late sry...

Allure
01-31-2008, 01:05 AM
Federer should do the Carlton dance the next time he wins a slam. Novak should keep his shirt on.

Marek.
01-31-2008, 01:09 AM
Safin's was legendary. :worship:

Sunset of Age
01-31-2008, 01:11 AM
:worship: :worship: :worship:

Do me more, my dearest gentlemen!

Kolya
01-31-2008, 01:15 AM
The great Bjorn Borg even showed emotions after he won, going on his knees and throwing his racquet in the air.

If Borg is going to show emotion, what chance do other players have of not going over the top?

sawan66278
01-31-2008, 01:15 AM
Another great thread from sawan the genius.

People are different and are going to react differently in these situations, not everyone can win a Slam.

As long as they don't ignore their opponent, then can do what they want.

I'm glad you enjoy my threads...interesting that you actually take the time to post a response.;) Jealousy will get you nowhere.;)

Interesting question. I'd like to think that nowadays, men are more 'allowed' to show their soft side, i.e., openly expressed emotions, i.e. TEARS.

Call my cynical, but I wonder if they are prepped to do so. I remember reading in Hard Courts by John Feinstein that Boris Becker thought that Andre Agassi's victory kneel after the 1990 U.S. Open semi was staged. I wonder if players really feel the emotion, or are reacting because...they are "trained" to do so.

dejosav
01-31-2008, 01:27 AM
Call my cynical, but I wonder if they are prepped to do so. I remember reading in Hard Courts by John Feinstein that Boris Becker thought that Andre Agassi's victory kneel after the 1990 U.S. Open semi was staged. I wonder if players really feel the emotion, or are reacting because...they are "trained" to do so.

Can't remember that one, but his crying after winning RG looked odd

Sunset of Age
01-31-2008, 01:29 AM
Call my cynical, but I wonder if they are prepped to do so. I remember reading in Hard Courts by John Feinstein that Boris Becker thought that Andre Agassi's victory kneel after the 1990 U.S. Open semi was staged. I wonder if players really feel the emotion, or are reacting because...they are "trained" to do so.

Interesting question - again! :D
Perhaps they are, but I don't think it applies to my fav two players. Rafa has once commented (sorry, can't find the link right now, but it was reported in an interview after his Wimbly 2007 loss) that he'd rather not be caught crying in public, and I don't think it applies to Roger either - if those AO victory tears are indeed an act, he deserves an OSCAR right away!

But I agree with you that I wouldn't find it completely off to think that nowaday's players are more 'trained' in showing the 'appropriate' (read: emotional) reactions than was the case some 10, 20 years ago.
And Agassi, in particular, has always been an apt pupil for this matter, I agree. Not that I have anything against him, let that be clear.

Action Jackson
01-31-2008, 01:32 AM
sawan, fair point about the cynical side. But if you thought Gaudio's was staged when he won RG, then it would be worrying.

RagingLamb
01-31-2008, 01:44 AM
you have to rub it in the other person's face as much as possible.

falling to the ground and all the other drama class antics really sting the other guy:

"I lost to this bitch?"

Yes you did ****** ******.

sawan66278
01-31-2008, 01:50 AM
sawan, fair point about the cynical side. But if you thought Gaudio's was staged when he won RG, then it would be worrying.

From someone like Gaston, I believe it. And to be fair, I actually believe Rafa's and Novak's. However, I know Roger is emotional, but, for me, after you've won your 9th slam, 10th slam, etc...to fall down like you've been shot.

Let's pray that no player reacts like this:

Please view from 1:21 to 1:58 of this clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_9mmN-5eHkA

Bibberz
01-31-2008, 02:06 AM
That was unreal. Just imagine if Nole's whole family reacted like that....


Let's pray that no player reacts like this:

Please view from 1:21 to 1:58 of this clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_9mmN-5eHkA

Sunset of Age
01-31-2008, 02:10 AM
From someone like Gaston, I believe it. And to be fair, I actually believe Rafa's and Novak's. However, I know Roger is emotional, but, for me, after you've won your 9th slam, 10th slam, etc...to fall down like you've been shot.

You DO know he came back from a serious injury at that time, no? :cool:
I have no doubts whatsoever that his tears were very genuine indeed.

EDIT: yep, that vid is hilarious.

Bascule
01-31-2008, 02:13 AM
sawana boy said:
I wonder if players really feel the emotion, or are reacting because...they are "trained" to do so.

Maybe their public relations managers tell them to act emotionally. ;)

Kitty de Sade
01-31-2008, 02:14 AM
From someone like Gaston, I believe it.

Finally. Something nice to read. Grazie. :hatoff:

Burrow
01-31-2008, 02:18 AM
Goran Ivanisevic deserved to do that, it wasn't put on or anything, it was all in the heat of the moment and the emotional was unreal.

I do wish Safin made more of his 2005 Australian Open celebration, just a smile maybe?

MisterQ
01-31-2008, 02:20 AM
I'll take that over Thomas Johansson or Kuznetsova, who just grinned like they had won a free milk shake or something.

Kitty de Sade
01-31-2008, 02:20 AM
I do wish Safin made more of his 2005 Australian Open celebration, just a smile maybe?

He was very low key- I remember.

Maybe just more quiet/composed relief at that point, that he had won again, after more than four years. Internally celebrating....while the rest of us were cheering loud for him. :lol:

Burrow
01-31-2008, 02:21 AM
Nadal's Monte carlo 2007 one or whatever it was was so fake, like a few of his others actually.

Burrow
01-31-2008, 02:23 AM
He was very low key- I remember.

Maybe just more quiet/composed relief at that point, that he had won again, after more than four years. Internally celebrating....while the rest of us were cheering loud for him. :lol:

It didn't look like a happy guy though, he looked like a different guy a year before, I loved his celebrations in the 2004 AO, I experienced them with him, although they weren't dramatic, I could actually see the relief after such a horrid 2003, injury plagued and horrible Hopman Cup.

vidanhv
01-31-2008, 02:43 AM
:worship: :worship: :worship:

Do me more, dear gentlemen!
Hahaha! Ingenious!

its.like.that
01-31-2008, 02:50 AM
It didn't look like a happy guy though, he looked like a different guy a year before, I loved his celebrations in the 2004 AO, I experienced them with him, although they weren't dramatic, I could actually see the relief after such a horrid 2003, injury plagued and horrible Hopman Cup.

Yeah, I'm sure Marat was ruing his Hopman Cup performance in 2004. That's surely what spurred him on to winning the AO in 2005.

:o

Burrow
01-31-2008, 02:55 AM
Yeah, I'm sure Marat was ruing his Hopman Cup performance in 2004. That's surely what spurred him on to winning the AO in 2005.

:o

Are you stupid? I was talking about his 2004 Hopman cup performance and how he bounced back from that to make the final of the 2004 Australian Open, you fucking gypsy.

Why did I bring up the 2004 AO? Cause I was saying he seemed more enthusiastic in his wins their than in 2005.

:o

CmonAussie
01-31-2008, 03:39 AM
*****
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My Top 3 favourite celebrations:

#1. Pat Cash [87 Wimbledon]: climbs into the stands, over peoples heads to hug his coach & father (though this now seems the norm Cash was the 1st to ever try it)!!

#2. Gaston Gaudio [04 FO]: after coming back from 2-sets-to-love down to win in 5 he runs a victory lap, high fiving anyone in sight (that was sheer joy)!!!

#3. John Newcombe [75 AO]: the 30yo Aussie takes out the 22yo cocky American Jimmy Connors, Newk scissor kicks over the net [he was a pioneer & many have since emulated this move- Edberg etc.]!

MissMelly2U
01-31-2008, 05:03 AM
From someone like Gaston, I believe it. And to be fair, I actually believe Rafa's and Novak's. However, I know Roger is emotional, but, for me, after you've won your 9th slam, 10th slam, etc...to fall down like you've been shot.

Let's pray that no player reacts like this:

Please view from 1:21 to 1:58 of this clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_9mmN-5eHkA

I think he falls down like he's been shot because he is overwhelmed with mental, emotional, and physical relief (kind of like having an orgasm). To me it looks too awkward to be staged.

that video is something else :lol:

stzenit
01-31-2008, 07:16 AM
Are you stupid? I was talking about his 2004 Hopman cup performance and how he bounced back from that to make the final of the 2004 Australian Open, you fucking gypsy.

Why did I bring up the 2004 AO? Cause I was saying he seemed more enthusiastic in his wins their than in 2005.

:o
I might not understand you but like the other guy on the forum who you called a gypsy i agree with him maybe you mixed the years up? But safin did horrible in hopman cup 05 and bounced back to win the aus open. He did ok in Hopman cup 04

2004 Hopman Cup
W Santoro
W Novak
L Blake

A0 Runner Up

2005 Hopman Cup
L Coria
L Haas
L Sanguinetti

Ao Winner

But back on topic i think sometimes its over the top but hey they won a grandslam why not.
Safin 2005 aus open win was priceless just pumped his fist to his player box and went to shake hands.

Experimentee
01-31-2008, 09:10 AM
I prefer over the top celebrations. It makes you feel you are watching something important, rather than a club championship.

The most boring Slam celebration I have seen was Myskina's FO. She didn't even smile or react and just walked to the net to shake hands. Its funny how players who only win one Slam usually have the most low key reactions, and multiple Slam winners like Federer show their emotion more.

Corey Feldman
01-31-2008, 09:40 AM
I agree Sawan!!! i was thinking the same myself a few days ago, everyone falls on their back and its past its sell by date now

who was the last champ to stay on his feet? Fed after the 2006 Wimbledon Final.

nothing can beat Petr Korda and the scissors kicks in Aussie 1998.

stebs
01-31-2008, 10:13 AM
I think it's all fine.

As for faking it? Bollocks do they, it's a grand slam, whether it's 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc... doesn't matter. It's incredibly hard to do. Which celebration do you think Federer faked it with?

Corey Feldman
01-31-2008, 10:19 AM
Remember Roddick at the USO03 and his 'ugly cry'
:lol:

mineralwater
01-31-2008, 11:52 AM
I would have loved to have seen Tsonga's reaction had he won on Sunday. That would have been something. His reaction after beating Rafa was funny

Timariot
01-31-2008, 12:06 PM
I'll take that over Thomas Johansson or Kuznetsova, who just grinned like they had won a free milk shake or something.


Ah, Thomas Johansson celebration:

The guy in the right belongs to ATP marketing team :)

http://www.city.se/polopoly_fs/1.881075!slot100slotWide75ArticleFull/3447786819.jpg

Lleyton_
01-31-2008, 01:20 PM
After watching Djokovic win the AO and Maria on the...um...WTA side (it hurts to even place that tour in the same sentence as as Novak)...I came to the realization: each player appears to trying outdo the previous slam winner. Roger, Rafa...they all fall to the ground as if shot by some bullet...each trying to emulate the REAL LEGEND...Bjorn Borg himself.

The last time I saw an actual celebration that was NOT over the top was Marat at the AO a few years ago. When will the madness stop?

:retard:

~*BGT*~
01-31-2008, 02:37 PM
Remember Roddick at the USO03 and his 'ugly cry'
:lol:

I'll prefer Andy's ugly cry to Murray's face any day boo. :kiss:

But I like Andy's celbration after winning Cincy '06. He fell to the ground and kissed it, and then did a victory lap and high fived everyone. That was a nice moment.

Burrow
01-31-2008, 03:34 PM
I might not understand you but like the other guy on the forum who you called a gypsy i agree with him maybe you mixed the years up? But safin did horrible in hopman cup 05 and bounced back to win the aus open. He did ok in Hopman cup 04

2004 Hopman Cup
W Santoro
W Novak
L Blake

A0 Runner Up

2005 Hopman Cup
L Coria
L Haas
L Sanguinetti

Ao Winner

But back on topic i think sometimes its over the top but hey they won a grandslam why not.
Safin 2005 aus open win was priceless just pumped his fist to his player box and went to shake hands.

Yeah, I got it the wrong way round, like I always do with that. I will learn. ;)

It is the lowest key slam celebration I have ever seen that is for sure.

Hopefully he does a better one when he win's Wimbledon this year.

Saumon
01-31-2008, 03:35 PM
Hopefully he does a better one when he win's Wimbledon this year.

:spit:


























sorry :o

MisterQ
01-31-2008, 04:12 PM
Ah, Thomas Johansson celebration:

The guy in the right belongs to ATP marketing team :)

http://www.city.se/polopoly_fs/1.881075!slot100slotWide75ArticleFull/3447786819.jpg

:rolls:

gusman890
01-31-2008, 04:14 PM
Oh Thomas.

I think people falling to their knees is a great gesture.

Shows much these tournaments mean to them.

mir
01-31-2008, 04:49 PM
Federer should do the Carlton dance the next time he wins a slam. Novak should keep his shirt on.

If Fed did a "Carlton" I would become his fangirl forever :D



Hopefully he does a better one when he win's Wimbledon this year.

If that happens I will do a "Carlton" ....in public.

sawan66278
01-31-2008, 05:06 PM
Remember Roddick at the USO03 and his 'ugly cry'
:lol:

I felt embarrassed for the Duck....one of those awkward times you wished you were not watching.

If Fed did a "Carlton" I would become his fangirl forever :D



If that happens I will do a "Carlton" ....in public.

Are you talking about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxdauqh3epw&feature=related

Corey Feldman
01-31-2008, 05:08 PM
:haha: :haha: Carlton, now i get what they meant :lol:

yeah i can just see Federer doing that

lol

sawan66278
01-31-2008, 05:10 PM
I think it's all fine.

As for faking it? Bollocks do they, it's a grand slam, whether it's 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc... doesn't matter. It's incredibly hard to do. Which celebration do you think Federer faked it with?

I wouldn't say Roger faked it...but the analogy would be like someone who is attending a lecture by the President of the U.S. Everyone generally stands up when he enters the room, and, even though they do not care for him, many stand up because it is the "proper thing to do".

Specifically, to answer your question, any AO after the first, and slams 8, 10, and 11.;)

mir
01-31-2008, 05:12 PM
Are you talking about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxdauqh3epw&feature=related

Hell Yes, thanks I feel all happy now :D

sawan66278
01-31-2008, 05:44 PM
Hell Yes, thanks I feel all happy now :D

If someone did this, I am telling you they would be a true legend regardless of how many slams they won.;)

star
01-31-2008, 06:18 PM
When Arthur Ashe won Wimbledon, he looked at the players' box and raised his fist to about shoulder height. That was it. I watched that match about a year ago, and was struck by the modest celebration. That was all to change in the next years. I mean, Borg falling to his knees was flamboyant in comparison. :) :)

I don't mind most celebrations, but I am off put by excessive crying -- blubbering -- etc. I didn't really like Andy's reaction to winning although I was happy for him. I do agree that sometimes the reactions seem a little stagey, but what do I know? Maybe people just do what comes to them in that instant or maybe they do things that they have planned in their fantasies for years. Hard to say.

sawan66278
01-31-2008, 06:59 PM
Arthur Ashe was class personified. He stood for ideals and principles, and used his fame and status to deal with issues that were human issues. The era of Ali, Ashe, Jim Brown...when athletes cared more others than themselves.

partygirl
01-31-2008, 07:29 PM
I'm not interested in watching 2 weeks worth of tennis (taking time out of my sleep/life) for someone to be comatose or non responsive in the culmination of all that hard work & ultimate achievement, seriously....who would want to see that?

edit: unless they were so honestly stunned or something:shrug:



Especially when i am at home screaming and yelling at the t.v during the duration, actually caring myself:o:cool:
I have been known to cry at slam finals:p:lol:

Dimonator133
01-31-2008, 08:46 PM
I can't help but admit that I like the 'over the top' celebrations. The more falling-to-the-ground, tears, family hugs, etc... the better, IMHO.

Yeah, I like my favs to be emotional on their victories. :angel:


it all depends on whether or not it's genuine. Goran's was the best ever. Federer falling down in what looks like sheer agony when it's his 9th Slam and he's winning 6-2, 6-1, 5-1 is the most ridiculous thing ever. It's a tired act.

yes, Safin's in 2005 was unbelievable

platinum
01-31-2008, 08:52 PM
Winning a slam is HUGE so can't blame them if they get emotional.

Dimonator133
01-31-2008, 08:56 PM
I would have loved to have seen Tsonga's reaction had he won on Sunday. That would have been something. His reaction after beating Rafa was funny

it was awesome. one of best ever.

AnnaK_4ever
01-31-2008, 09:01 PM
The most boring Slam celebration I have seen was Myskina's FO. She didn't even smile or react and just walked to the net to shake hands.

It's been explained. On MP Dementieva sent her return long but both line judge and umpire kept silence. Myskina wasn't sure if it was out. The upmire announced GSM a few seconds later when the moment had been ruined.
Besides, she played her friend in the final and jumping all over the court when your friend just collapsed is not very gracious.

sharpeirob
01-31-2008, 09:26 PM
Venus Williams winning her first Wimbledon, now that was pure, natural and unfaked joy. And I am not even a Willytard

RagingLamb
01-31-2008, 11:24 PM
it all depends on whether or not it's genuine. Goran's was the best ever. Federer falling down in what looks like sheer agony when it's his 9th Slam and he's winning 6-2, 6-1, 5-1 is the most ridiculous thing ever. It's a tired act.

yes, Safin's in 2005 was unbelievable

:haha: :yeah:

sawan66278
02-01-2008, 01:13 AM
Like I said before, it seems like the floodgates opened...and now EVERYONE feels like they have to fall down on the ground after a win. Or look to the heavens. I'm just waiting for the player at the challenger level to writhe on the floor like newly born-to-the world infant.

Corey Feldman
02-01-2008, 07:57 AM
And I am not even a WillytardThats not what your jilted ex-boyfriend said