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Australian Open Evaluation

tennisrulzmate
01-29-2008, 05:52 AM
What are your thoughts of how the Australian Open/Series ran?
Were the changes successful or unsuccessful?
e.g. schedule, court change, length of AO season and more

Action Jackson
01-29-2008, 05:54 AM
Is that you Craig Tiley?

Ferrero Forever
01-29-2008, 06:31 AM
Is that you Craig Tiley?

:worship:haha thats too good.

Anyway in response to the original question, it was an awesome few weeks. The only real problem I had with it was the scheduling. It seemed as if the matches on the 1st Sunday (i think that was the day after the rain delay) that should have been on Rod Laver were on Vodafone and vice versa. Also, the people at the event wern't told what matches were being rescheduled to what court, and it was hell to find out any information.

Thats just a minor problem, other than that it was brilliant.

Kristen
01-29-2008, 06:41 AM
I was originally hesitant about the changes to the qualifying schedule, but I didn't have a major problem. I'm happy to have all men on one day, but on the other days [rounds 2 and 3] perhaps we could mix the schedule around a little in terms of WTA and ATP matches, instead of having all of the men play in the first 2 matches of the day, followed by women. That caused me a few problems.

Court change is not a big deal for me, Lleyton still lost on it :p I would probably prefer them a little faster though. It is nice to see my players win sometimes, but then maybe I'm just looking for an excuse.

The new 'buy Vodafone tickets to get into vodafone' was a little crap. Although I had tickets for the first 2 days, it wasn't the same without the big section of Swedes cheering their lungs out. Granted, there was only one MD Swede, and the Swedes were still there chanting... but they were way back =(


Also, Frosty Fruits should not be $2.50 (?) a pop
Promo Parade should not be between Garnier World and Court 4 as there are always huge 'pedestrian traffic' problems.
Garnier World should not even be there. But I understand sponsorship is what makes the event possible. If only it could be put somewhere near the front of RLA, and issue passouts to the twits who want to line up for the duration of a womens match to get a stupid looking, crooked braid in their hair.
Bring back the old scoreboard near court 9 and 12!!

PS. Those Jacobs Creek guys were :drool:

Action Jackson
01-29-2008, 06:45 AM
Vodafone ticketing was a joke, most other things were fine.

Kristen
01-29-2008, 06:48 AM
Oh yeah, to add to the Frosty Fruit list of things I don't seriously care about [apart from bad hair], Grand Slam Supervisors should work on their approachability, and tone down on the hard-arsedness. Yes I mean you, Andreas. Also, the lack of a Swedish umpire detracted from the awesomeness of the tournament.

Security need to learn some manners. Seriously, tell me of a digital camera that does not take a video, and [I]then I will hand over my camera.I seem to complain a lot. I had a great time, really.

EDIT: Also after this years farce, glad to see one of the tournaments being moved to a different location. Hopefully they can improve where the previous tournament lacked.

Tabledott
01-29-2008, 07:40 AM
Federer didn't win it, so I don't like it at all.
Seriously, it was a good tournament I enjoyed it.

baghdatis
01-29-2008, 07:52 AM
I was originally hesitant about the changes to the qualifying schedule, but I didn't have a major problem. I'm happy to have all men on one day, but on the other days [rounds 2 and 3] perhaps we could mix the schedule around a little in terms of WTA and ATP matches, instead of having all of the men play in the first 2 matches of the day, followed by women. That caused me a few problems.
Court change is not a big deal for me, Lleyton still lost on it :p I would probably prefer them a little faster though. It is nice to see my players win sometimes, but then maybe I'm just looking for an excuse.

The new 'buy Vodafone tickets to get into vodafone' was a little crap. Although I had tickets for the first 2 days, it wasn't the same without the big section of Swedes cheering their lungs out. Granted, there was only one MD Swede, and the Swedes were still there chanting... but they were way back =(


Also, Frosty Fruits should not be $2.50 (?) a pop
Promo Parade should not be between Garnier World and Court 4 as there are always huge 'pedestrian traffic' problems.
Garnier World should not even be there. But I understand sponsorship is what makes the event possible. If only it could be put somewhere near the front of RLA, and issue passouts to the twits who want to line up for the duration of a womens match to get a stupid looking, crooked braid in their hair.
Bring back the old scoreboard near court 9 and 12!!

PS. Those Jacobs Creek guys were :drool:

Amen to the Qualies comment... It was Bullshit After Economidis On Friday I had to wait through another 2 matches to watch Dokic. and for the final round I usually stay the whole day but I only stayed for the 1st to matches (WTA :o).

As for Vodaphone arena, Yes It is STUPID.. Unless It was because of the Big Screens they installed :confused:
I ended Up on the same side as most of my mates so we all moved to spare seats near each other And chanted, But two friens copped seats next to Swedes On the opposite side :lol:


Also pissed off with what those Dumb Fucking Police Kents Did to Us at Economidis vs Gonzalez :o

Ferrero Forever
01-29-2008, 08:41 AM
Yeah the security was also useless. At the JCF/Kiefer match we had the most pathetic security guard ever. The people trying to pack into the court were blocking the view of the seated people, and even when we told the security we couldn't see, he did nothing. He also had to be told by Ferrero to kick that guy who told JCF to 'f***ing lose this game,' and the rest of the crowd until he removed him.

And I couldn't agree more about the retail promenade. Move it to the upstairs section and away from the practise courts. That way it would be so easy to get to both sets of courts. And yeah, Garnier World is a waste of space, but as Kristen says, the sponsors are important.

Magenta
01-29-2008, 09:34 AM
Four words: Best Australian Open everrrrrrr. ;)

Ferrero Forever
01-29-2008, 09:38 AM
Four words: Best Australian Open everrrrrrr. ;)

Exactly! But I must say, I'm excited to see another Maltese on the board.

Kat!
01-29-2008, 12:44 PM
I third (?) the comment about Garnier World. Actually, why don't we have all the "fun" stuff (eg Garner World, retail shops) all on the one side (say, where courts 16 to 21 are now).... and then all the actual tennis stuff on the other? That will save us heaps of time walking from one end to another. :)

Just Vodafone tickets are evil - stop pretending you're giving ground pass holders a great deal (by not increasing the price) while taking away the ability to get into Vodafone.

And finally >> thanks Adelaide, it was a nice tournament. But I'm biased, and have expectations for the new one. :) It'll have a shiny new stadium which I have no idea what sort of public transport will get there! :D

Via
01-29-2008, 09:42 PM
security was excessive, and paranoid... needless to say i'd had a nasty experience and that's only because i had a camera lens that looked big for 200mm :rolleyes:

also what's the point of setting attendance records, when it simply gets more and more crowded every year, without any improvement in facilities. we still had to roast on every outside court without shade, and there never were enough seats for food, or areas for a break (from heat exhaustion) :o

and yes i hated having to fight the crowds outside that garnier place! :mad:

and has anyone noticed that security around the 'stars' at practice courts was getting more and more ridiculous? was it like 5 or 6 guards to escort them, as if they would be attacked by crazy fans? people simply acted more crazy when players were so much harder to approach.

Alex999
01-29-2008, 09:47 PM
http://www.serbianopen.com/

Young Boss
01-29-2008, 09:50 PM
they should have pushed the AO back 1 week, so Federer could have more time to recover from his illness.

Federerhingis
01-29-2008, 10:10 PM
I third (?) the comment about Garnier World. Actually, why don't we have all the "fun" stuff (eg Garner World, retail shops) all on the one side (say, where courts 16 to 21 are now).... and then all the actual tennis stuff on the other? That will save us heaps of time walking from one end to another. :)

Just Vodafone tickets are evil - stop pretending you're giving ground pass holders a great deal (by not increasing the price) while taking away the ability to get into Vodafone.

And finally >> thanks Adelaide, it was a nice tournament. But I'm biased, and have expectations for the new one. :) It'll have a shiny new stadium which I have no idea what sort of public transport will get there! :D

What is this always the case, of people buying tickets for vodafone and they never end up being able to attend the sessions on vodafone?

I really hope next year I can visit australia during the Aussie open of course and during summer time no doubt. he he

jonny84
01-29-2008, 10:18 PM
It was a good tournament from someone who followed it online and through the TV. Cant wait till I get to go in a few years time.

Great wins from Tsonga - he was the highlight of the tournament, and it was refreshing to watch a final that didnt feature Nadal or Federer.

Ferrero Forever
01-30-2008, 06:26 AM
security was excessive, and paranoid... needless to say i'd had a nasty experience and that's only because i had a camera lens that looked big for 200mm :rolleyes:

also what's the point of setting attendance records, when it simply gets more and more crowded every year, without any improvement in facilities. we still had to roast on every outside court without shade, and there never were enough seats for food, or areas for a break (from heat exhaustion) :o

and yes i hated having to fight the crowds outside that garnier place! :mad:

and has anyone noticed that security around the 'stars' at practice courts was getting more and more ridiculous? was it like 5 or 6 guards to escort them, as if they would be attacked by crazy fans? people simply acted more crazy when players were so much harder to approach.


Yeah I understand everything you said. Saying that, they are going to improve the facilities in the future, so thats a plus. The lack of shade is a problem, but saying that I'm always the idiot who'd prefer front row seats rather than the few shaded spots on the show courts. Would it really kill them though to put sails over at least most of the seats? They advocate being sunsmart, and instead we can't avoid getting burned. I really do understand why the need the security around the big players. They get swamped by people trying to get autographs and the like, and there comes a point where they can't do anymore, but people still expect it. Somebody needs to step in and move the crowd, so at least the security do that. And of course you never know if theres gonna be a psycho getting too close to the players or what. But saying that, what makes the tournament so special for me is how close you can get to the players personally. If they restricted fan access to players, it would make my AO experiences so much worse. So they've gotta draw a line so that it's still enjoyable but players and fans alike can both be safe. And I think they've done a decent job in that regard.

Sean.J.S.
01-30-2008, 06:44 AM
I loved the new blue courts. :hearts:

Bad scheduling at the end of the first week. :rolleyes:

Kolya
01-30-2008, 06:56 AM
Overall the AO was a success.

_§_
01-30-2008, 07:28 AM
All they need to do now is bring back Rebound Ace and green courts:)

steph2790
01-30-2008, 09:26 AM
security was excessive, and paranoid... needless to say i'd had a nasty experience and that's only because i had a camera lens that looked big for 200mm :rolleyes:

also what's the point of setting attendance records, when it simply gets more and more crowded every year, without any improvement in facilities. we still had to roast on every outside court without shade, and there never were enough seats for food, or areas for a break (from heat exhaustion) :o

and yes i hated having to fight the crowds outside that garnier place! :mad:

and has anyone noticed that security around the 'stars' at practice courts was getting more and more ridiculous? was it like 5 or 6 guards to escort them, as if they would be attacked by crazy fans? people simply acted more crazy when players were so much harder to approach.


Sorry this is really off-topic but is that Craig Reucassel in your avatar?? I love him and the Chaser haha!

tennisrulzmate
01-30-2008, 09:29 AM
All they need to do now is bring back Rebound Ace and green courts:)

Murray said that the AO courts had lost its uniqueness due to the similar attributes to the USO courts. However, most of the Australian upcoming juniors would be able to adapt to a cheaper, more consistent surface. The change of the courts have really come at a price. It may be 'true blue' but the US Open has taken the true blue out of the AO.

rocketassist
01-30-2008, 10:28 AM
Court change- shit, Rebound Ace was unique- the arena just didn't look the same for me.

_§_
01-30-2008, 11:19 AM
It's a great shame:)

Via
01-30-2008, 09:43 PM
Yeah I understand everything you said. Saying that, they are going to improve the facilities in the future, so thats a plus. The lack of shade is a problem, but saying that I'm always the idiot who'd prefer front row seats rather than the few shaded spots on the show courts. Would it really kill them though to put sails over at least most of the seats? They advocate being sunsmart, and instead we can't avoid getting burned. I really do understand why the need the security around the big players. They get swamped by people trying to get autographs and the like, and there comes a point where they can't do anymore, but people still expect it. Somebody needs to step in and move the crowd, so at least the security do that. And of course you never know if theres gonna be a psycho getting too close to the players or what. But saying that, what makes the tournament so special for me is how close you can get to the players personally. If they restricted fan access to players, it would make my AO experiences so much worse. So they've gotta draw a line so that it's still enjoyable but players and fans alike can both be safe. And I think they've done a decent job in that regard.
you probably don't realise that, back only a few years ago when the attendance figures were lower, or perhaps when the common psyche did not have the word 'terrorist'.... the players were a lot more approachable than now! i'm sure they are spending many folds increase in security. i don't know if it's necessary (certainly there wasn't a bomb in my camera bag, but you know what security for that is for and it's another story). but i'm enjoying it less.

yeah that's what i mean, why can't they have sails or something similar all the way across the stands? guess they've spent all their budget on the new court surface, and (haha, guess what i'm going to say) security.

Sorry this is really off-topic but is that Craig Reucassel in your avatar?? I love him and the Chaser haha!

yessss :) (and i know another mtf poster who loves wentworth miller)

switz
01-31-2008, 12:33 AM
they should have pushed the AO back 1 week, so Federer could have more time to recover from his illness.

and they should play on grass at Roland Garros this year so Roger can win the grand slam.

baghdatis
01-31-2008, 04:37 AM
yessss :) (and i know another mtf poster who loves wentworth miller)

All the guys on the Chaser are Legends!!

tennisrulzmate
01-31-2008, 06:24 AM
Chaser pulls off great stunts

jitterbug
01-31-2008, 07:23 AM
security was excessive, and paranoid... needless to say i'd had a nasty experience and that's only because i had a camera lens that looked big for 200mm :rolleyes:

I had a security guy come up to me in Vodafone and tell me that I can't use my camera (it was a perfectly ordinary SLR with 200mm lens) :retard: he probably thought it was a video camera, since I held it up to my eyes for quite some time to track the players before actually taking the picture.

Experimentee
01-31-2008, 08:06 AM
There should be more shade on the outside courts, especially on those 40 degree days.

Separate tickets to Vodafone was a bad thing. I like the idea of being able to have some reserved seats, but some areas open to ground pass holders.

I liked it better when qualifying was 3 days instead of 4.

Kat!
01-31-2008, 09:51 AM
I had a security guy come up to me in Vodafone and tell me that I can't use my camera (it was a perfectly ordinary SLR with 200mm lens) :retard: he probably thought it was a video camera, since I held it up to my eyes for quite some time to track the players before actually taking the picture.


Yeah, love the security. I was using my digital camera after a match and security asked me to not film video, and I wasn't. He didn't believe me so I had to point out to him it's an ordinary digital camera, and every digital camera these days has a video function - plus mobile phones. :rolleyes: Eventually he gave up since the person next to him even said something to help me.

And to show their competence when Roger Federer was practicising there was someone who was blatently recording video. It wasn't even a digital camera, it was a digi cam! I could see it from way back yet no one said anything.

Via
01-31-2008, 09:16 PM
Yeah, love the security. I was using my digital camera after a match and security asked me to not film video, and I wasn't. He didn't believe me so I had to point out to him it's an ordinary digital camera, and every digital camera these days has a video function - plus mobile phones. :rolleyes: Eventually he gave up since the person next to him even said something to help me.

And to show their competence when Roger Federer was practicising there was someone who was blatently recording video. It wasn't even a digital camera, it was a digi cam! I could see it from way back yet no one said anything.

I had a security guy come up to me in Vodafone and tell me that I can't use my camera (it was a perfectly ordinary SLR with 200mm lens) :retard: he probably thought it was a video camera, since I held it up to my eyes for quite some time to track the players before actually taking the picture.

that was exactly what happened to me... they sent the biggest guy they had too lol... i explained to him that 200mm was officially allowed. then he argued with me that it should be < 200, not equal to 200 (where can you find 199mm lenses?) so he sought confirmation from the other security guys... and i could see a whole stadium of those yellow shirts talking into their mouth piece all looking at me! gosh was i worth all that attention? lol finally he relented that 200mm was ok :smash:

but yeah i reckoned that i attracted attention because i held up the camera for a long time AND i took a lot of pictures. not that my camera looked anywhere near those professional guys' big toys though. but with that sort of intervention it just killed off my enjoyment of taking pics inside the stadiums. guards weren't anywhere near as paranoid at outside courts, and sure enough i had spotted people filming with real video cameras too :rolleyes:

basically what i've been saying is that things had gotten worse this year. that sort of security amounted to harassment, and they weren't even properly trained what to harass people for.

All the guys on the Chaser are Legends!!

:yeah: we should add 'chaser appreciation' to the title of this thread :)

wally1
01-31-2008, 09:51 PM
that was exactly what happened to me... they sent the biggest guy they had too lol... i explained to him that 200mm was officially allowed. then he argued with me that it should be < 200, not equal to 200 (where can you find 199mm lenses?) so he sought confirmation from the other security guys... and i could see a whole stadium of those yellow shirts talking into their mouth piece all looking at me! gosh was i worth all that attention? lol finally he relented that 200mm was ok :smash:

but yeah i reckoned that i attracted attention because i held up the camera for a long time AND i took a lot of pictures. not that my camera looked anywhere near those professional guys' big toys though. but with that sort of intervention it just killed off my enjoyment of taking pics inside the stadiums. guards weren't anywhere near as paranoid at outside courts, and sure enough i had spotted people filming with real video cameras too :rolleyes:

basically what i've been saying is that things had gotten worse this year. that sort of security amounted to harassment, and they weren't even properly trained what to harass people for.



:yeah: we should add 'chaser appreciation' to the title of this thread :)Wow, I thought the Australian Open was meant to be the "friendly" slam?

jitterbug
01-31-2008, 10:55 PM
that was exactly what happened to me... they sent the biggest guy they had too lol... i explained to him that 200mm was officially allowed. then he argued with me that it should be < 200, not equal to 200 (where can you find 199mm lenses?) so he sought confirmation from the other security guys... and i could see a whole stadium of those yellow shirts talking into their mouth piece all looking at me! gosh was i worth all that attention? lol finally he relented that 200mm was ok :smash:

:worship: somebody give that guy an honourary doctorate now. You should've tried telling him your maximum focal length is 199.5mm :p

Anyway, the yellow-shirt came up to me as I was leaving Vodafone to go to the outside courts. I said a few times that both my camera and the lens are allowed under the T&Cs, but he kept repeating "You can't use that camera."

I finally got fed up and more or less shoved the tickets envelope (the blue one with the T&Cs printed on the back) in his face and said: "They are perfectly legal - check your own rules."

He left me alone after that.

camnation
01-31-2008, 11:10 PM
I thought the Aussie Open was great overall. It's nice to see a splash of summer in the middle of the winter in Canada. I wasn't a big fan of the rowdy patrons and all the heckling but I guess it comes with the territory. And it definitely didn't hurt that Novak won either!

lazyman
02-01-2008, 01:34 AM
apart from that night where the hewitt bagdatis match was on the scheduling was good. The playing on the court thingy was really cool i was on for like a whole hour doing that training thing. The security was really pathetic i could have taken anything in if i wanted. there bag check involved u opening one of your pockets of the bag so basically it was pointless. they also said i couldnt take my flag stick in but meh. it was a good open and the first one ive been to so im happy with it.

also the price of food or drink or anything else sucked but thats expected at tourist thing

_§_
02-01-2008, 02:06 AM
I think they should use less capsicum spray at next years AO:)

Ferrero Forever
02-01-2008, 03:22 AM
Concerning the video cameras, I asked one of the security to take some photos when they got a few of us to meet Juan Carlos. The idiot ended up taking a video, and I was so annoyed with this guy I said to him 'why on earth did you take a video, you pressed the wrong button you idiot' so I basically blew it by telling him that I had a video function on my camera, but he didn't pick up on my hint and just kept telling me how sorry he was. The security there are such idiots.

Also I was in Vodafone and I forgot to turn my flash off when I turned my camera on, and I let my flash off once, and I immediately turned it off because I understand how it would be distracting to the players. Anyway this female security guard (at least I think it was female, it was quite butch whatever it was) came up to me and screwed up her face and started shaking her finger at me. I didn't know whether to laugh or what. But seriously, a simple 'could you turn your flash off please' would have been fine.

RogerFan82
02-01-2008, 03:49 AM
I liked the blue surface. Made viewing much easier on TV. A well conducted and interesting tournament.:)

tennisrulzmate
02-01-2008, 10:09 AM
But it had its pros and cons

_§_
02-01-2008, 11:19 AM
I actually found the blue extremely hard to watch on tv, while the green was always the best color for tv:)

platinum
02-01-2008, 05:01 PM
I don't like the blue surface, it was too bright during the day matches! The AO was great but I hate the new surface. Plexicushion might be a more safer surface than RA but I liked the green color more....

tennisrulzmate
02-02-2008, 02:50 AM
I was impressed at how the AO organisers handled the hold up from the Roger Feder and Tipsarevic match. The match rolled over well into the night session so there was a hold up in Melbourne Park. The massive crowd decided to flock to the big screen while they were waiting. It took only 15 mins after the match for the night session to commence. That is impressive, considering u have to clean up rubbish, direct people to seats. It was a doormans nightmare.

baghdatis
02-02-2008, 04:38 AM
No Way! It wasn't 15 mins if you were going by Channel 7's coverage. They had it very delayed on 7 so it could fit in perfectly.
I was watching by stream and it took mutch longer!

Kat!
02-03-2008, 12:36 AM
oh, I totally forgot about the shitty TV coverage!

Living in Qld we always get our night matches an hour behind, which I'm sure the Today/Tonight & Home and Away viewers would be thankful for. :rolleyes: But they even made the effort of matching the coverage with the clocks on the courts, so unsuspecting people might not even notice!

But the most annoying thing was that they were showing delayed matches even when I was in Melbourne - the Fed/Tipsarevic match I believe. We saw that the live scores were different to what's on TV..... which is ridiculous.

tennisrulzmate
02-03-2008, 12:49 AM
The Australia Open set a new record for crowds with 50000 more people coming to the event in the two weeks

tennisrulzmate
02-03-2008, 12:50 AM
Hope the AO facilities will be able to cope with bigger crowds next yr

baghdatis
02-03-2008, 11:22 AM
oh, I totally forgot about the shitty TV coverage!

Living in Qld we always get our night matches an hour behind, which I'm sure the Today/Tonight & Home and Away viewers would be thankful for. :rolleyes: But they even made the effort of matching the coverage with the clocks on the courts, so unsuspecting people might not even notice!

But the most annoying thing was that they were showing delayed matches even when I was in Melbourne - the Fed/Tipsarevic match I believe. We saw that the live scores were different to what's on TV..... which is ridiculous.

Not really AO's fault...It's 7's fault. But they did that so they could starts the Venus Williams- sania Mirza match directly after.

But yeah 7 does have shitty coverage.

Also the draw this year :o

1st day only had one proper match on centre court (Tsonga-Murray)

They couldve swapped either williams' match or Henin's match (both quick thrashings) For a better match like Lindahl-Gasquet or Roddick-Whoever he played.

Action Jackson
02-03-2008, 11:25 AM
I was impressed at how the AO organisers handled the hold up from the Roger Feder and Tipsarevic match. The match rolled over well into the night session so there was a hold up in Melbourne Park. The massive crowd decided to flock to the big screen while they were waiting. It took only 15 mins after the match for the night session to commence. That is impressive, considering u have to clean up rubbish, direct people to seats. It was a doormans nightmare.

That really is you Craig.