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Djokovic throws down the gauntlet

Aloimeh
01-28-2008, 11:03 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/tennis/sobering-news-for-federer-nadal-as-djokovic-pledges-no-letup/2008/01/28/1201369037091.html

Sobering news for Federer, Nadal as Djokovic pledges no let-up

Peter Hanlon
January 29, 2008

NOVAK DJOKOVIC had a surprisingly clear head yesterday morning, and a focus to match. Having achieved his ambition for 2008 in the first month of the year, he now has Rafael Nadal, Roger Federer and the world's No.1 ranking in his sights.

"Now I'll try to remain consistent with the results and try to get the first two guys in the world," Djokovic said, adding that the gap between them, rankings-points wise, was not huge. "I think I have enough quality to do it.

"Now I look at things different. I think it's probably more relief than pressure for me, because I'm going to get to the rest of the season more relaxed, and just try to play a high level of game. I'm really looking forward to work [on my game] so I can improve and be the first player in the world."

Asked if he could dethrone Federer, whom he defeated in straight sets to reach the Australian Open final, this year, the Serb was categorical. "I always believe that I can reach everything, and I think that's even possible.

"You have to consider that Federer and Nadal have been in the situation for the last three or four years of defending points, and they've been handling it in the best way. We'll see what happens, but now I feel much better, much more confident."

The Djokovic roadshow did not leave Melbourne Park until after 2.30 yesterday morning, having obliged print and electronic media with interviews that ran almost as long as his four-set triumph over Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. There had been plans to mark his maiden grand slam win - "I'll keep that a secret, because we have special ways of celebrating," he said on Sunday night - but they were put on hold.

"I sat down with my family [at their rented apartment] for a little while, we just talked about things, smiling and laughing, then I went to bed," the 20-year-old said. "I was really tired, but the real celebration is waiting for me."

That may come as early as tomorrow, when he arrives in Belgrade to a welcome that is sure to compensate for any lack of immediate partying. Djokovic estimates 20,000 people were outside government house last year after he, Ana Ivanovic and Jelena Jankovic all made the semi-finals of the French Open, and he has heard talk of a similar reception this time.

He has been flooded with congratulatory messages, including from football great Diego Maradona and several current stars. "You just start to realise how big a deal this is, how much all the professional athletes from all different sports around the world are appreciating that," he said.

He had also heard from fellow players, but refused to name who - although he admitted Federer wasn't one of them. "Roger? No, no Roger."

Djokovic again praised Tsonga for his role in the fairytale, saying the pair "played amazing through the whole tournament" and deserved their place in the final. Yet it was his semi-final against Federer that has most emboldened him.

"In the first couple of matches we played, I was thinking, 'OK, I'm going to try to play my best tennis, try to prove that I'm a good tennis player.' Now, things have changed. I get to the matches with more belief that I can win, and that I want to win. There's a slight difference - he feels it, I feel it much more."

Djokovic reflected on the relative lack of support he was afforded by the Rod Laver Arena crowd on Sunday night, and said that Tsonga, as the underdog, was an understandable choice. "People like to see him, the way he plays, the way he celebrates," he said. "I don't think you enjoy too much if the people support the other player, but it kind of lifts you up a little bit, gives you motivation to be really aggressive. [But] to have more support than your opponent is always a better option."

He was happy just to have his family share in his breakthrough, and hoped the experience would spur promising brothers Marko and Djordje to similar feats. "I'll make them work for that. They've been here, they've lived the moment with me, and it means a lot to them.

"Having the people which supported me the most through all my life and career, I am extremely happy that I can celebrate and live this moment with them. I gave them yesterday night the trophy, and I was so proud to even see them holding [it], because it's not just my success, it's theirs as well."

Stensland
01-28-2008, 11:09 PM
i wonder when the first journalist confronts him with his parents' behaviour. even the nytimes implicitly criticized them.

oh it's gonna come. oh and it's gonna be interesting how novak reacts. and OH, i'm sure he knows about that stuff, and i'd bet that if any player out there is curious enough to check the web to find out what the world thinks of him, it's little novak. he was pissed during the final that people didn't cheer for him, over the coming week he'll find out why.

it's gonna be interesting.

Aloimeh
01-28-2008, 11:12 PM
i wonder when the first journalist confronts him with his parents' behaviour. even the nytimes implicitly criticized them.

oh it's gonna come. oh and it's gonna be interesting how novak reacts. and OH, i'm sure he knows about that stuff, and i'd bet that if any player out there is curious enough to check the web to find out what the world thinks of him, it's little novak. he was pissed during the final that people didn't cheer for him, over the coming week he'll find out why.

it's gonna be interesting.

Let's hope it leads to some introspection...or at least circumspection in the future.

Stensland
01-28-2008, 11:16 PM
Let's hope it leads to some introspection...or at least circumspection in the future.

yeah, and you know what? after reading all the articles over the last 24 hours, he does seem kinda alright if you just take him and leave out all the "side effects" his gang brings along. sure, he's a little cocky, has always been, will always be.

but boy his gang really cracks me up... http://www.addis-welt.de/smilie/smilie/boese/819.gif

~*BGT*~
01-28-2008, 11:17 PM
i wonder when the first journalist confronts him with his parents' behaviour. even the nytimes implicitly criticized them.

oh it's gonna come. oh and it's gonna be interesting how novak reacts. and OH, i'm sure he knows about that stuff, and i'd bet that if any player out there is curious enough to check the web to find out what the world thinks of him, it's little novak. he was pissed during the final that people didn't cheer for him, over the coming week he'll find out why.

it's gonna be interesting.

I had a really good laugh reading that, just imagining Djoke's face. :lol: :yeah:

Spes
01-28-2008, 11:31 PM
I can't wait for someone to come in and call him arrogant. :hearts:

I like this newly-found confidence he has. He has a great opportunity to do big things this year and I hope he does.

Stensland
01-28-2008, 11:33 PM
I like this newly-found confidence he has.

:haha:

Spes
01-28-2008, 11:40 PM
"We'll see what happens, but now I feel much better, much more confident."

Is that not newly-found confidence? :confused:

Did you even bother to read the article?

Stensland
01-28-2008, 11:47 PM
Did you even bother to read the article?

"newly-found confidence" just doesn't fit. i don't think he didn't believe in himself during the federer-match, heck, i don't even think he was doubting his skills when he came on tour as a teen. this guy, like it or not, has by far the highest self esteem out of the whole top 50. he's as confident as they come. and if you read his interviews back in the days when he won umag or the other mm tournaments, you'll notice that a lack of self-confidence has never been his problem. your statement on the other hand implies that by winning his first slam he finally has the mental power to progress. well, this trophy has done little to him as it was hardly possible to bump his ego any more.

Spes
01-28-2008, 11:52 PM
"newly-found confidence" just doesn't fit. i don't think he didn't believe in himself during the federer-match, heck, i don't even think he was doubting his skills when he came on tour as a teen. this guy, like it or not, has by far the highest self esteem out of the whole top 50. he's as confident as they come. and if you read his interviews back in the days when he won umag or the other mm tournaments, you'll notice that a lack of self-confidence has never been his problem. your statement on the other hand implies that by winning his first slam he finally has the mental power to progress. well, this trophy has done little to him as it was hardly possible to bump his ego any more.

I agree, maybe that wasn't the right word.

But he is more confident now then before, now he really feels he belongs. I don't think he would just say that he feels more confident because he likes hearing himself talk, I think he truly feels more confident about his game and about his career. No need for you to laugh at me for liking what he said in his interview.

Stensland
01-28-2008, 11:57 PM
No need for you to laugh at me for liking what he said in his interview.

yeah, sorry about that, i didn't mean to offend you. :)

it's just that i didn't see you around here a lot so i thought you might be one of the nole-fanboys that showed up right after the final and dump a bunch of posts about their new hero.

well, your join date should've given me some hint, i guess. :o

never mind. :wavey:

Scotso
01-29-2008, 12:08 AM
Nole :yeah:

Go after them, you can do it.

hiperborejac
01-29-2008, 12:22 AM
"newly-found confidence" just doesn't fit. i don't think he didn't believe in himself during the federer-match, heck, i don't even think he was doubting his skills when he came on tour as a teen. this guy, like it or not, has by far the highest self esteem out of the whole top 50. he's as confident as they come. and if you read his interviews back in the days when he won umag or the other mm tournaments, you'll notice that a lack of self-confidence has never been his problem. your statement on the other hand implies that by winning his first slam he finally has the mental power to progress. well, this trophy has done little to him as it was hardly possible to bump his ego any more.

Yes :cool:

He always have a new things to do. And he is really going step by step. After coming into top 10 (and wining some small tournaments)
he did next results:
1. final of AMS :)
2. beat Nadal & AMS title :D
3. SF's of slams ;)
4. beat Federer in AMS final :angel:
5. slam final :cool:
6. beat Federer in slam & maiden slam :worship:

All of this things gave him a new level of confidence.
Next things to do:
1. Beat Nadal on clay
2. Beat Nadal on slam
3. Beat Roger on slam final

For all of this things he needs to really try, and every time hi did that's new step to his lifetime goal NO 1.

At least hi didn't create a beast yet :devil:

thrust
01-29-2008, 12:25 AM
Well, he should be more confident now that he has won his first Slam. He has an outstanding game capable of beating anyone on a given day. Obviously I am missing something, but I don^t find him at all arrogant. Confident, for sure, but not arrogant. All this fuss about his family is just jealous nonsense. Just because they are more vocal and animated in their support does not make them evil or mean spirited.

Young Boss
01-29-2008, 12:40 AM
what does everyone expect him to say? if he doesn't believe he can beat Fed,Nadal, and get to #1, what is he playing for? i like this mentality. in my opinion, you have to be arrogant to be an elite athlete.

Tnn74
01-29-2008, 12:47 AM
:rolleyes: Djokovic is nowhere in the "elite" stage yet...

Federer and Nadal will give him major thumpings...
and I will probably enjoy every minute of the expression on his stupid mom's face :yeah:

Komodo
01-29-2008, 12:53 AM
I see nothing wrong with this particular interview.

Mr irresistible charm (!), great charisma (!), stunning looks (!), fighting spirit (!) and annoying entourage (!!) has pretty much to back up now, but I'm pretty sure that he will be competing for every single grand slam from now on.
His tennis itself is way ahead of the way he acts.

Young Boss
01-29-2008, 01:03 AM
:rolleyes: Djokovic is nowhere in the "elite" stage yet...

Federer and Nadal will give him major thumpings...
and I will probably enjoy every minute of the expression on his stupid mom's face :yeah:

i didn't say he was elite. if he wants to get there though he has to have the mentality he is displaying(thinking & knowing he can beat everyone).

i agree the Federer should still beat him most of the times. As for Nadal, i think he'll have problems beating Novak anytime/anywhere( not saying Rafa can't do it, but for sure no "thumpings").

hiperborejac
01-29-2008, 01:15 AM
i didn't say he was elite. if he wants to get there though he has to have the mentality he is displaying(thinking & knowing he can beat everyone).

i agree the Federer should still beat him most of the times. As for Nadal, i think he'll have problems beating Novak anytime/anywhere( not saying Rafa can't do it, but for sure no "thumpings").

I am pretty sure there will be no "thumpings" from Federer neither.From now on will be always close.

lalaland
01-29-2008, 01:15 AM
I still don't understand what ppl are expecting from Nole. He never said he is better than Fed or Rafa. He just said he believes in himself and believes that he can beat Fed and Rafa. We are talking about world class athletes here, most of them are very confident individuals, otherwise, they can't achieve what they aim to achieve. Ask Roddick if he believes that he can beat Fed now, I bet he will say yes (whether or not if that's the truth is another matter). But imagine if Roddick say no, that he doesn't believe, what will ppl say, I'm sure he will get a earful of criticisms for that.

RagingLamb
01-29-2008, 01:19 AM
good for him. that's the right attitude to have in pro sports.

it's a competition after all.

Spes
01-29-2008, 01:24 AM
yeah, sorry about that, i didn't mean to offend you. :)

it's just that i didn't see you around here a lot so i thought you might be one of the nole-fanboys that showed up right after the final and dump a bunch of posts about their new hero.

well, your join date should've given me some hint, i guess. :o

never mind. :wavey:

I post more on WTAWorld, but when things are slow I like to come over here. :lol:

I am glad that the majority of the people in here see that his attitude now is the attitude it takes if he wants to achieve his goals. I was expecting a flood of posts about how arrogant he was and maybe even a reference or two to his mother (which was kindly and expectedly provided by Tnn74). :tape: If he wasn't saying things like this, I would be worried. This victory should give him heaps and heaps of confidence and I am glad that it has. I am eagerly awaiting what is in store for Nole the rest of the season.

Spes
01-29-2008, 01:28 AM
I am pretty sure there will be no "thumpings" from Federer neither.From now on will be always close.

I am sure that when Federer has a good day and Nole has an off day, we will be seeing a few thumpings. :lol: Even Nadal, who has a healthy lead in the head-to-head with Federer, has endured a few thumpings in his day. ;)

Allure
01-29-2008, 01:30 AM
It's more of Djoko's parents being arrogant. Djoko isn't really arrogant persay. He is confident in his abilities but overall he respects his opponents. Some things he said are a turn off though. (I was in control of the match; Federer is going down, etc.)

Spes
01-29-2008, 01:37 AM
It's more of Djoko's parents being arrogant. Djoko isn't really arrogant persay. He is confident in his abilities but overall he respects his opponents. Some things he said are a turn off though. (I was in control of the match; Federer is going down, etc.)

The "I was in control of the match" bit was bad, I will admit. :o We will throw that one away to being so young. :lol:

Bibberz
01-29-2008, 01:39 AM
You don't need to have 12 slams or hold the longest winning streak on clay in order to play an elite brand of tennis. If your last four slams have been SF, SF, F, W, you're an elite.


:rolleyes: Djokovic is nowhere in the "elite" stage yet...

Federer and Nadal will give him major thumpings...
and I will probably enjoy every minute of the expression on his stupid mom's face :yeah:

HNCS
01-29-2008, 01:44 AM
It's more of Djoko's parents being arrogant. Djoko isn't really arrogant persay. He is confident in his abilities but overall he respects his opponents. Some things he said are a turn off though. (I was in control of the match; Federer is going down, etc.)

i agree. Djokovic himself is soooo much more likable than his parents. No matter if you believe his words or not, he at least appears to be a champion. unlike his parents, i don't even think they know how to pretend to be a bit more graceful and humble. you don't have to be arrogant to be proud of your son...

Magus13
01-29-2008, 03:12 AM
Right now Joke is equal to Roddick, not even close to Nadal and Fed.
Joke is the proud son of the Howling Jackal and the Mountain Hag

Magus13
01-29-2008, 03:15 AM
i agree. Djokovic himself is soooo much more likable than his parents. No matter if you believe his words or not, he at least appears to be a champion. unlike his parents, i don't even think they know how to pretend to be a bit more graceful and humble. you don't have to be arrogant to be proud of your son...

Ultimately a player must answer for the behavior of their box. Joke is no Saint. Staring down officials, making spitting gestures on the court, talking shit etc. The whole AO crowd was disgusted by him.

asher_langley
01-29-2008, 03:23 AM
Just curious--what does it take to label a player "elite"? Is it measured by the number of slams they win (defined by the Federer, Sampras, Borg, etc)? I think Nole can qualify as elite, including maybe the Top 10 players of the world. There are a lot of tennis pros and amateurs out there and to play at Top 10 level, that's got to mean something, right?

About Nole's attitude (displayed in interviews), I do sense that arrogance/overconfidence. Sometimes I think that he's actually saying it to himself more than the audience, kind of like to really psych himself up that 'he's here, a force to be reckoned with, etc...'. (I do wonder if Nadal went through the same thing. I'm not saying he's arrogant but I've only seen most of his english interviews and maybe, the language barrier does not allow him to freely express his own assertiveness in his place in the tennis world :shrug: ) In some of the posts here, he's been linked with Hewitt and I've heard Hewitt also had some attitude during his early winning days(?) so maybe it's also about the age, where the immaturity of actions and words show up.

Alex999
01-29-2008, 03:39 AM
Ok, I said this before and I'll say it one more time. I DO NOT like his family, but I love Novak's game and I think his confidence (you can call him cocky or whatever) is amazing. Guys, being so self confident is a good thing. Trust me on this one.

sawan66278
01-29-2008, 03:57 AM
I see you have made your decision. Not let's you enforce it.-The Crow.

Djokovic is setting himself up for a fall. Invariably EVERY player goes through a sophomore slump. And when he does, the true test of a champion is how he responds. Take Rafa Nadal. After winning his second French Open and making the finals at Wimbledon, he suffered a slump where he did not reach a single final until Indian Wells...and then he proceeded to rebound...and have his best season yet.

The real test...not whether he will have a successful year. Winning a slam has already made this a wonderful year regardless. However, once you are the hunted, things change. Combine this with the fact that players in the locker room evidently don't care for the Djokovic family attitude presented...and you have the makings of a train wreck.

At some point in the season, Djokovic's confidence will be tested. And how he responds will determine his legacy.

Halba
01-29-2008, 07:21 AM
djoko had his slump already. it was after vienna till the masters cup. indoors season was his 'slump'. he came back to form in hopman cup.

Magenta
01-29-2008, 09:32 AM
People are still upset about his "overconfidence"?
Okay lets put it this way, when he has talked he has delivered. He could have talked and not delivered anything, but at age 20 he's the youngest player ever to win the Australian Open.

Whatever he has said thus far has been the truth. The "I can beat Federer/Nadal" comments are true, he has beaten both, more than once.

end of.

jasmin
01-29-2008, 12:49 PM
He never said he is better than Fed or Rafa.

Nope he didn't say it but his mom did and I'm sure he knows she did. I don't think he minds it either.

However, it's good to believe. Raf still believes.