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I can't believe I'm saying this... I miss Federer!!

Cat123
01-27-2008, 09:36 AM
This doesn't feel like a final without him, it's really really strange :lol: Don't get me wrong, it's a brilliant match, but yeah, it's weird!

DDrago2
01-27-2008, 10:14 AM
a 20 year old and 21 year old, both green... both over-hyped (as they all are these days)... what did you expect

acionescu
01-27-2008, 11:17 AM
Believe me, I know what you're feeling, just watching 2 twenty something players(youngsters!) getting tired after only 2 hours of powerfull serve play!

Kristen
01-27-2008, 11:21 AM
This could send some hate in my direction, but I get the feeling if one of the finalists had been Federer, I would have walked out of the room after a set, rolling my eyes in disgust... 'here we go again'. This was refreshing for me, even if it was confusing as hell because I didn't really want either to lose.

Bibberz
01-27-2008, 11:25 AM
Well, you're certainly not going to get any hate from me. I feel exactly the same way. I'll watch Federer win a tight first set and then he just pulls away in the second set and he's off to the races. It's like that every time he plays Blake, Roddick, Hewitt, etc.

This could send some hate in my direction, but I get the feeling if one of the finalists had been Federer, I would have walked out of the room after a set, rolling my eyes in disgust... 'here we go again'. This was refreshing for me, even if it was confusing as hell because I didn't really want either to lose.

DDrago2
01-27-2008, 11:25 AM
If Federer was in the finals the match would have more clinical feel to it and a lot more history behind it.

Alex999
01-27-2008, 11:28 AM
I wanted Novak and Roger to play for the championship but it wasn't possible. I'm sure we'll see these 2 fighting again soon. I miss Roger too :-(

DDrago2
01-27-2008, 11:30 AM
You know how they say: if one isn't there, you can do without him

Castafiore
01-27-2008, 11:30 AM
Frankly, it was nice to have a final without Federer or Nadal. Granted, I prefer to see Nadal in a final but it's nice this way as well.

Tzar
01-27-2008, 11:32 AM
TWAT Is in WtaWorld not here :wavey:

rosamunda
01-27-2008, 11:33 AM
Well, I fhound it quite surreal, as though I'd found myself in a parallel universe where Fed didn't exist. And, being a Fed fan, it was sad surreality.

stebs
01-27-2008, 12:25 PM
It was refreshing I think but I would have preffered to see two real big players battle it out. Tsonga played amazing this whole tournament and his level was fine but it would've been more atmospheric for a bigger name to face off with Djokovic. I hope sincerely Tsonga doesn't fade into mediocrity this year and can become a real force on tour.

Burrow
01-27-2008, 12:31 PM
It was refreshing I think but I would have preffered to see two real big players battle it out. Tsonga played amazing this whole tournament and his level was fine but it would've been more atmospheric for a bigger name to face off with Djokovic. I hope sincerely Tsonga doesn't fade into mediocrity this year and can become a real force on tour.

Totally disagree. I find it more atmospheric for an underdog to be playing a big name, in a big match. Tsonga was in with a geniune chance to win a Grand Slam title, massive opportunity. I never get excited over tennis anymore really, but when an underdog like Tsonga has a chance to achieve something so massive, it is very entertaining from my point of view.

Jozie
01-27-2008, 12:36 PM
It was refreshing I think but I would have preffered to see two real big players battle it out. Tsonga played amazing this whole tournament and his level was fine but it would've been more atmospheric for a bigger name to face off with Djokovic. I hope sincerely Tsonga doesn't fade into mediocrity this year and can become a real force on tour.

To be honest, Tsonga and Djokovic are two real big players. Both deserved to be in the final, both took out the NO 1 and 2 players in the world, in straight sets.

Tsonga will become a force on the tour. Djokovic will threaten for the No1 and 2 spots soon, and Tennis is healthy.

:)

avocadoe
01-27-2008, 12:37 PM
I missed Roger, too. I saw the first two sets in the middle of the night here, and went back to sleep after ND went up a break in the third. Both played okay some of the time, but lots of nerves, and for every brilliant shot/ralley a score of not. No one will eve know how the Federer vs Djokoivc match would have played out if Roger had been truly well/fit/in form but the particular way it did in straights would not have been. I'm sure of that. Hope Roger gts his full health, strength and joie de vie back on track, and plays some more amazing tennis this year!

stebs
01-27-2008, 12:50 PM
Totally disagree. I find it more atmospheric for an underdog to be playing a big name, in a big match. Tsonga was in with a geniune chance to win a Grand Slam title, massive opportunity. I never get excited over tennis anymore really, but when an underdog like Tsonga has a chance to achieve something so massive, it is very entertaining from my point of view.

I like an underdog who is in with a chance vs an established big name. Djokovic, though his credentials are undeniable, especially now, he is still not quite that. If there are two young guys I like them both to have a bit to their resume.

MyPrecious
01-27-2008, 01:50 PM
a 20 year old and 21 year old, both green... both over-hyped (as they all are these days)... what did you expect

I'm not a Fed fan but I have to admit I'm starting to like him more and more when compared to other players who seem arrogant and full of themselves.

Those players will remain unnamed ;)

See you at the French Roger :)

acionescu
01-27-2008, 02:37 PM
I missed Roger, too. I saw the first two sets in the middle of the night here, and went back to sleep after ND went up a break in the third. Both played okay some of the time, but lots of nerves, and for every brilliant shot/ralley a score of not.

My thoughts exactly but I stayed until the very end. I love tennis, what can I do?

Or Levy
01-27-2008, 02:47 PM
Definitly missed Roger.....

It was exciting, in a depressing kind of way.

Jagermeister
01-27-2008, 02:49 PM
Didn't miss him at all. It was good to have a non Federer/Nadal final for a change.

the cat
01-27-2008, 02:54 PM
Roger Federer doesn't make a grand slam final and people are going crazy. :crazy: :confused: He he can't make the final of every grand slam. And Federer had incredibly made 10 consecutive grand slam finals a record that will probably never be equalled or broken. He should be allowed 1grand slam where he doesn't make the final without it being the end of the men's tennis world. ;)

MissMelly2U
01-27-2008, 03:02 PM
Roger Federer doesn't make a grand slam final and people are going crazy. :crazy: :confused: He he can't make the final of every grand slam. And Federer had incredibly made 10 consecutive grand slam finals a record that will probably never be equalled or broken. He should be allowed 1grand slam where he doesn't make the final without it being the end of the men's tennis world. ;)

I had to quote this. He said it himself...he's created a monster.

As much as I love Fed, he is not the end-all-and-be-all of tennis for me. I wanted him to win, but when he got put out, I moved on. I'm sure we will have plenty more opportunities to see Fed in action. For now, we have all just been spoiled. Frankly, I enjoyed the fact that 2 young guns were duking it out today. It was the first time in a long time.

acionescu
01-27-2008, 03:07 PM
Roger Federer doesn't make a grand slam final and people are going crazy. :crazy: :confused: He he can't make the final of every grand slam. And Federer had incredibly made 10 consecutive grand slam finals a record that will probably never be equalled or broken. He should be allowed 1grand slam where he doesn't make the final without it being the end of the men's tennis world. ;)

I did not miss him because I find his presence in a GS final to be mandatory, I missed him because I was not happy with the final that I saw and I must recognize that with him you allways have great tennis and if he has a balls-equiped opponent you have also a great drama. :cool:

danton
01-27-2008, 03:41 PM
Nope - I think tennis has gotten a lot more competitive over the last year - and that can only be good.

brent-o
01-27-2008, 04:24 PM
Not really a Fed fan, but I missed him to some extent. Nole really turned me off to his antics and general cocky attitude, so I kind of missed Federer's laidback demeanor. You know, people say Fed is cocky but he could be much worse. On the other hand, I didn't really miss the usual premise for ATP finals: Federer versus insert player A. It was an entertaining match.

Argenbrit
01-27-2008, 04:29 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this... I miss Federer!!
Already??! :p

Argenbrit
01-27-2008, 04:30 PM
Didn't miss him at all. It was good to have a non Federer/Nadal final for a change.
Agreed.

*Ljubica*
01-27-2008, 04:36 PM
I love Roger, but I just loved this Final too. To have two young guys out there who had never won a Grand Slam before, made it far more fresh and exciting for me. I know that if Roger had been in the Final, I would have got up early, watched the first two sets, and then realised he was going to win agaan and gone back to sleep :zzz: But this one had me on the edge of my seat from beginning to end, and the very fact that both were nervous and in unchartered territory, gave it more excitement for me. It may have meant that the tennis level wasn't right up there at the very top, but that was made up for by the extra tension in my opinion. Roger will win far more Grand Slams I'm sure, but having a new Grand Slam winner, and a new young talent like Tsonga in contention, has got to be good for the health of the game in my opinion.

SAtennis
01-27-2008, 05:14 PM
Federer's artistic playing was seen no where this time as well as his CLASSY manner. Don't worry. We'll see him a lot more often than last year.

Chiseller
01-27-2008, 05:35 PM
I WANT TO SEE FEDERER TSONGA BATTLES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS!!

that would be such an enjoyable tennis ;)

The Freak
01-27-2008, 05:43 PM
I sure didn't.

Andi-M
01-27-2008, 05:57 PM
I miss Federer in the sense I dont like being a neutral in finals where 2 players I really really like go H2H cos one has to lose.

At least when Fed plays I know who Im supporting.....the oppenant ;)

fedsfan1
01-27-2008, 06:04 PM
I missed him too but this AO final was NOT a brilliant match.
I don't like either guy much so that may have something to do with it.

I love tennis & enjoy other players doing well but these two just leave me cold....nothing appealing about them IMO.

RagingLamb
01-27-2008, 06:06 PM
I would miss Federer if he didn't make it due to injury or some other reason.

But he's not there because he didn't play well enough to be there, and that's why he didn't deserve to be there. Same for Nadal.

It was refreshing to see something different after such a long time. And hopefully Novak can keep this up and become a real contender at all the slams.

It would make men's tennis a lot more enjoyable to watch.

gillian
01-27-2008, 06:26 PM
Believe me, I know what you're feeling, just watching 2 twenty something players(youngsters!) getting tired after only 2 hours of powerfull serve play!

This I find strange. I don't begrudge either player their place in the final, but I'm watching the re-run of the final now, and I'm thinking "how are y'all gonna cramp in the fourth set." LOL. At the USO, I'm used to seeing 5-setters and those guys don't cramp at least until the tiebreaker.

Meadowsweet
01-27-2008, 06:52 PM
I think we all missed him today, at least a little. Personally, I didn't have the impression that it was the final match at all!! And one thing - I must agree with gillian. Two twenty- year old guys who got tired after two hours on the court?? A little dissapointing I must admit....

HeretiC
01-27-2008, 07:00 PM
Nope, why should I miss him ? I watched him in 6 matches this AO. I would have missed him if he couldn't play at all or if he lost in a first or second round to some low ranked journeyman.

Corey Feldman
01-27-2008, 07:02 PM
If you're a fan of Fed's then its obvious you miss him

but looking at the big picture i understand all the 'i'm glad its something different' and 'it gets boring all the time with him in the final' type of comments.

safinalium
01-27-2008, 07:08 PM
I didn't miss him at all. It's nice to see something different and it was time for a change. The final was excellent, Tsonga and Nole both are very talented players and made a great spectacle. I don't think that there was anything missing - there were the beautiful shots, the tension, the intrigue. :) And Federer didn't retire or something like this, he lost, obviously there were was someone better who beat him. I'm sure that he will play many other finals this year, so there's no need to get melancholic.

DDrago2
01-27-2008, 07:13 PM
He lost the SF so he isn't in the finals, why would you miss him. He is equalt to other players and he should have beaten Djokovic to enter the finals, which he couldn't - end of story

JeffCandoi
01-27-2008, 07:17 PM
He lost the SF so he isn't in the finals, why would you miss him. He is equalt to other players and he should have beaten Djokovic to enter the finals, which he couldn't - end of story

Why are you so nervous? :p

I can't believe I'm saying this... I miss Federer too!!

Djokovic is a lucky man :p, Federer is the best ever :D

vidanhv
01-27-2008, 08:07 PM
I like an underdog who is in with a chance vs an established big name. Djokovic, though his credentials are undeniable, especially now, he is still not quite that. If there are two young guys I like them both to have a bit to their resume.
Hmmm... Don't follow u? Is it possible to be young guy and have bigger resume then Djokovic? Who else of the youngsters, except Nadal, could have been there with better credentials then Nole?

vidanhv
01-27-2008, 08:11 PM
I WANT TO SEE FEDERER TSONGA BATTLES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS!!

that would be such an enjoyable tennis ;)
That would be amazing!!!! Only if Tsonga could improve his game during this season.

FedFan_2007
01-27-2008, 08:14 PM
I'm really looking forward to Fed/Tsonga battle. That should be all class.

tennischick
01-27-2008, 08:15 PM
Fed needs to recover from whatever is ailing him and proceed to win Roland Garros. i wish him the BESTEST BEST. :kiss:

tangerine_dream
01-27-2008, 08:49 PM
This could send some hate in my direction, but I get the feeling if one of the finalists had been Federer, I would have walked out of the room after a set, rolling my eyes in disgust... 'here we go again'. This was refreshing for me, even if it was confusing as hell because I didn't really want either to lose.
I also found the final refreshing, and I enjoyed watching it more because for once it wasn't predictable who would win. I don't "miss" Roger or Rafa because I know they'll be back. To "miss" somebody because he didn't make his first slam final in two years seems rather childish to me.

stebs
01-27-2008, 08:52 PM
Hmmm... Don't follow u? Is it possible to be young guy and have bigger resume then Djokovic? Who else of the youngsters, except Nadal, could have been there with better credentials then Nole?

You misunderstand. I said I like BOTH to have a bit to their resume. Djokovic certainly fits the bill, just Tsonga doesn't/ Obviously he was playing amazing tennis but I must admit I would've preffered to see Djokovic face off to Murray or Nadal.

JediFed
01-27-2008, 08:57 PM
Federer's artistic playing was seen no where this time as well as his CLASSY manner. Don't worry. We'll see him a lot more often than last year.


Amen. When he's on there's no better tennis out there.

FedFan_2007
01-27-2008, 10:05 PM
No kidding. When TMF is present, the shot making is breath-taking. By contrast, Djoko's shot making looks more brutish.

guga2120
01-27-2008, 10:18 PM
Federer getting beat, and convincingly, on a hard court is good for tennis. It will make this whole year much more intresting. Rememeber how boring last year was, where Federer went through the whole tournament and did not lose a set?

scoobs
01-27-2008, 10:19 PM
Better start getting used to this feeling - inevitably it's one that's going to occur more and more often - the only thing up for grabs is how fast that happens.

Sunset of Age
01-27-2008, 10:20 PM
Federer getting beat, and convincingly, on a hard court is good for tennis. It will make this whole year much more intresting. Rememeber how boring last year was, where Federer went through the whole tournament and did not lose a set?

Boring for you, perhaps.
Pretty jaw-dropping for a lot of other viewers I daresay. No offense meant in any way BTW, I know how much opinions vary on this particular matter. :smoke:

star
01-27-2008, 10:27 PM
It was a great final. So emotional and fiery!

Federer likes to take emotion out of a match, and it works well for him, but I like the high emotion and animation from the players. Both Tsonga and Djokovic were tremendous during the match.

cobalt60
01-27-2008, 10:31 PM
It was a great final. So emotional and fiery!

Federer likes to take emotion out of a match, and it works well for him, but I like the high emotion and animation from the players. Both Tsonga and Djokovic were tremendous during the match.

I concur. I actually watched this final from start to finish :yeah: That's a first in a long time for me.

didadida
01-27-2008, 10:32 PM
Boring for you, perhaps.
Pretty jaw-dropping for a lot of other viewers I daresay. No offense meant in any way BTW, I know how much opinions vary on this particular matter. :smoke:

hey i like your new avatar:)

Eden
01-27-2008, 10:36 PM
Rememeber how boring last year was, where Federer went through the whole tournament and did not lose a set?

But it was more interesting for you this year to see Novak running to the final without losing a set?

Give respect where it is due. Roger played the best tennis of the AO last year and was the deserved winner. Same goes now for Novak, who had the best run at the tournament.

l_mac
01-27-2008, 10:44 PM
I didn't miss Federer :shrug: But I didn't really enjoy the final, because I don't much care for either player and the standard wasn't out of this world.

Obviously I didn't miss Nadal because Nadal in hard court final is a freak event, not a regular occurance :lol:

I do hope we see some other Slam finalists this year - Murray (:rolleyes:) maybe Gasquet, Pico at RG ...

As much as I enjoy the Fed/Rafa rivalry (and believe it has been very important for tennis these past few years) their Slam finals (with the exception of this year's Wimbledon) have been annoying. I remember saying that I never wanted them to meet in a final again while watching this year's RG final. :lol:

BalkanBoy
01-27-2008, 11:40 PM
a 20 year old and 21 year old, both green... both over-hyped (as they all are these days)... what did you expect

Why fo you have the Serbian flag idiot? There's no way you're a Serb or that you support Serbian players based on all the posts I have seen from you.

pochoster
01-28-2008, 03:19 AM
i don't miss Fed. i was bored of him, getting to the gs finals all the time the same poker face at every final match. Djokovic win, helped a lot to tennis. Great from him :yeah:

now in RG we'll see djoko's family selling t-shirts with nole's face, or promoting a new clothing line
NOLE.

N_F_S
01-29-2008, 01:55 PM
Federer will be back to the next final :)

Art&Soul
01-29-2008, 02:59 PM
No need to miss him coz he'll be there in the rest of GS finals :devil:

fsoica
08-01-2008, 05:57 PM
He has 3 more days as no. 1, but it seems most of us already miss him as he would have already retired...

Will we ever be happy again?

I haven't watch Nadal at all since Wimbledon, but it seems his game is out of this world right now...

Is there on MTF an objective Federer fan who could describe to us, not watching anymore the game, what sort of domination will Nadal impose on the tour ? Has it something to do with the beautiful tennis Federer give to the world or is another type, a new kind of tennis ?

Or he will not last ?

Please be very objective and thorough in your descriptions...

octatennis
08-01-2008, 05:58 PM
no, but we all know that he can make his high-level come back in the olimpycs.

finishingmove
08-01-2008, 05:59 PM
:awww: :sobbing:

JolánGagó
08-01-2008, 05:59 PM
Will we ever be happy again?

Get over it, eat some strawberry icecream.

habibko
08-01-2008, 06:00 PM
Federer will not be missed because he is still there, and he will be back in no time once he get over the Wimbledon loss :)

Herdwick
08-01-2008, 06:01 PM
How did you manage when Laver declined? Life goes on...

hilluis
08-01-2008, 06:02 PM
Yes. I am sad the 4 1/2 years at no 1 is coming to an end. It is inevitable, but still sad. Whilst I appreciate Nadal, still cant get excited about his game. Miss the flair of 2006 Federer.

fsoica
08-01-2008, 06:03 PM
How did you manage when Laver declined? Life goes on...

I wasn't born, of course...

How did you ?

MacTheKnife
08-01-2008, 06:04 PM
Any time the potential for a Nadal-Fed match is gone, I miss that. Sorry but those two guys are still the best two players in the world (IMO) and I always look forward to them going at it. When one of them (usually Fed lately) is knocked out, I find the tournament loses a little something for me. As for the future, these guys have quite a few more battles left, in that respect, there's nothing to miss.

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 06:05 PM
Get over it, eat some strawberry icecream.

Can you ever at least try to be friendly in thread concerning Your Most Hated Player out there? Why don't you just stay away in stead of continuously spouting your vile?

Federer will not be missed because he is still there, and he will be back in no time once he get over the Wimbledon loss :)

Yeah... last time I checked, he played a rather good match against a Monster Server which he very unluckily (dixit one Rafa Nadal, btw) lost. He's still there, and though he's going through a tough time right now, be sure he'll be back on force.

As for Rafa... if he manages to keep up his current level of playing, which is outstanding, he can surely dominate the tour for quite a while. I'm not saying it will happen, though, as we have had plenty players in the past who seemed 'unbeatable' for some period, but faded rather fast - Hewitt and Roddick come to mind as relatively current examples. So, we'll just have to wait and see - as always.

juninhOH
08-01-2008, 06:06 PM
Life goes on indeed. We will get used eventually his 'normal' is like now.

And Nadal's game isn't out of this world right now. It was out of this world at Wimbledon, both his and Federer's game. Now both 'slowed down' a bit, but Nadal is on a roll, while Federer is on a downswing.

tangerine_dream
08-01-2008, 06:07 PM
Starting the funeral procession already? He's in a slump, he will be back, and no I don't miss him because he hasn't left, he's still here, still playing, and still healthy.

Pfloyd
08-01-2008, 06:09 PM
Can you ever at least try to be friendly in thread concerning Your Most Hated Player out there? Why don't you just stay away in stead of continuously spouting your vile?



Yeah... last time I checked, he played a rather good match against a Monster Server which he very unluckily (dixit one Rafa Nadal, btw) lost. He's still there, and though he's going through a tough time right now, be sure he'll be back on force.

As for Rafa... if he manages to keep up his current level of playing, which is outstanding, he can surely dominate the tour for quite a while. I'm not saying it will happen, though, as we have had plenty players in the past who seemed 'unbeatable' for some period, but faded rather fast - Hewitt and Roddick come to mind as relatively current examples. So, we'll just have to wait and see - as always.

Well, Rafa has achieved more than what Hewitt and Roddick have done combined. That speaks volumes about his level of play.

If he continues playing so many matches, he bound to mess his knees up, sad to say.

I'm not certain he will last too long in the no.1 position, but I have little doubt that he will continue dominating in clay for at least 2 more years.

I also believe he will win 1 more Wimbledon.

However, how long he will last (playing at a high level, not at the number 1 position) depends entirely on him, and which tournaments, and how many of them, he chooses to play.

GlennMirnyi
08-01-2008, 06:09 PM
The problem isn't Frauderer leaving #1. It's Nadull the moonballer taking this position the main problem.

GlennMirnyi
08-01-2008, 06:10 PM
Hewitt > Nadull at any day.

Hewitt played better players.

fsoica
08-01-2008, 06:11 PM
Off-topic: talking about a "out of this world" game, does anybody here think that it is somedoby on the tour who would have been able to beat Tsonga during his AO SF against Nadal ?

I'm finding myself at a crossroad choosing between that game and Fed vs Hewitt 2004 USOpen final as the best performance of a player ever on hard courts...only that Tsonga's was a total tennis (remember the net game?), and Fed was the perfect baseline on HC game....

what do you think?

star
08-01-2008, 06:11 PM
Normally, top players only dominate for a short time and not for years on end, so I don't expect Nadal to dominate as Federer has done. I think that when a top players has strong challengers it makes tennis more exciting. We are in one of those exciting phases right now, and I'm happy about it. I won't particularly miss Federer when he is gone, but since he's not gone yet and won't be gone for some time, there's really nothing for me to miss. :)

Matt01
08-01-2008, 06:12 PM
Don't you already miss Federer ?


He has retired already ? :confused:

:rolleyes:


The problem isn't Frauderer leaving #1. It's Nadull the moonballer taking this position the main problem.


Seeing players like Stepanek on top probably would have been so much better :lol:

GlennMirnyi
08-01-2008, 06:15 PM
Seeing players like Stepanek on top probably would have been so much better :lol:

Definitely. He can play tennis, not moonball.

fast_clay
08-01-2008, 06:16 PM
Off-topic: talking about a "out of this world" game, does anybody here think that it is somedoby on the tour who would have been able to beat Tsonga during his AO SF against Nadal ?

I'm finding myself at a crossroad choosing between that game and Fed vs Hewitt 2004 USOpen final as the best performance of a player ever on hard courts...only that Tsonga's was a total tennis (remember the net game?), and Fed was the perfect baseline on HC game....

what do you think?

what i will say is that Tsonga displayed the brand of tennis that day
that is required to counter this brickwall mentality sh!te... even if JW played half as good with that style he would have won... fortune favours the brave...





i wont miss federer until he reaches the new lows i feel he is capable of...

like... losing to Chris 'what is this Gooch?' Guccione or Alex Mugdanovic... then i may allow myself to feel something...

Clay Death
08-01-2008, 06:18 PM
Get over it, eat some strawberry icecream.


100 million threads on the blind worship of Fed. when will it ever end?

fsoica
08-01-2008, 06:20 PM
100 million threads on the blind worship of Fed. when will it ever end?

give me a freaking break, man
have i ever commented on your pro-Nadal never-ending threads ?

Go freak-yourself and allow us to breath...

fast_clay
08-01-2008, 06:22 PM
Go freak-yourself and allow us to breath...


i have been getting freaky with myself... it is why i didnt post much yesterday...

fsoica
08-01-2008, 06:25 PM
what is absolutely beautiful about this year regarding the ATP tour:

in the beginning (AO and IW), Fed-worshipers hated Djoko and loved Rafa (and Rafa's fans prefferer Fed, because the Djoker was a threat at no. 2), then they started to preffer Djoko..on the other side, Djoker fans are now at a crossroad: i think they would preffer a better version of Fed on he field and they totally hate Nadal...

Matt01
08-01-2008, 06:26 PM
Definitely. He can play tennis, not moonball.


Unlike Nadal. Of course ;)


Hewitt > Nadull at any day.

Hewitt played better players.


As far as I know, Hewitt is still playing and failing miserably anytime he faces good competition (like Feder or Nadal) these days. He's clearly <<<<<<<<<<<<< Nadal.

fsoica
08-01-2008, 06:28 PM
i have been getting freaky with myself... it is why i didnt post much yesterday...

are u a clone of clay-death ?

Herdwick
08-01-2008, 06:35 PM
Tired plea - Djokovic fans are not a single body nor do we speak with one voice. Some like Fed and loathe Rafa, some the reverse, a few dislike them both and some (like me) like and appreciate both Roger and Rafa. Most of us like and support other players as well as Nole. OK?

fast_clay
08-01-2008, 06:39 PM
are u a clone of clay-death ?

gee whiz... you really cut to the bone dont you...?

Clone_Death may find that insulting...




at least i actually attempted to answer you with some respect and honesty in an earlier post... :sad:

fast_clay
08-01-2008, 06:41 PM
:lol:

Clay Death
08-01-2008, 06:46 PM
are u a clone of clay-death ?

just pray for death now while you have a chance fsoica. i can see that you are losing it fast.

finishingmove
08-01-2008, 06:48 PM
just pray for death now while you have a chance fsoica. i can see that you are losing it fast.

man this cracked me up :lol: :rolls: :haha:

Xenosys
08-01-2008, 06:51 PM
gee whiz... you really cut to the bone dont you...?

Clone_Death may find that insulting...




at least i actually attempted to answer you with some respect and honesty in an earlier post... :sad:

It's your avatar mate, that awful picture of Federer is off-putting :(
The irony of it all is that Federer was in the Gilette Mach 3 ads.

Clay Death
08-01-2008, 06:54 PM
man this cracked me up :lol: :rolls: :haha:


:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Xristos
08-01-2008, 06:55 PM
Any time the potential for a Nadal-Fed match is gone, I miss that. Sorry but those two guys are still the best two players in the world (IMO) and I always look forward to them going at it. When one of them (usually Fed lately) is knocked out, I find the tournament loses a little something for me. As for the future, these guys have quite a few more battles left, in that respect, there's nothing to miss.

Great post.

scoobs
08-01-2008, 07:10 PM
Miss him? He's never been more talked about!!!

DhammaTiger
08-01-2008, 07:38 PM
Normally, top players only dominate for a short time and not for years on end, so I don't expect Nadal to dominate as Federer has done. I think that when a top players has strong challengers it makes tennis more exciting. We are in one of those exciting phases right now, and I'm happy about it. I won't particularly miss Federer when he is gone, but since he's not gone yet and won't be gone for some time, there's really nothing for me to miss. :)
Star,great post :hatoff: I wish i could good rep you but I can't. I wish people will stop this whining and see it in perspective Federer's run was long and it was unusual in his total dominance but it had to end. No matter how delicious your ice cream is, it has to be gone too once you start eating it. It's the unimmutable law of nature. In physics it's known as entropy.

Roddickominator
08-01-2008, 07:45 PM
Sampras didn't start playing like a clown until his 30's. Another point for Pistol Pete.

GlennMirnyi
08-01-2008, 07:47 PM
Unlike Nadal. Of course ;)





As far as I know, Hewitt is still playing and failing miserably anytime he faces good competition (like Feder or Nadal) these days. He's clearly <<<<<<<<<<<<< Nadal.

Nadull can't play tennis.

Hewitt won his big tournaments playing much better players. Not Serra.

GlennMirnyi
08-01-2008, 07:48 PM
Sampras didn't start playing like a clown until his 30's. Another point for Pistol Pete.

Sampras had the mentality of a winner, he'd never give away a match, you had to beat him. Frauderer on the other hand...

partygirl
08-01-2008, 08:03 PM
I don't want to live in a world where Nadal is #1.:sobbing:

guitarob
08-01-2008, 08:03 PM
I know he's still here but, and he's actually having a fine year. I mean if he wins the USO and the masters cup it will actually be a great year. He's not gone but seeing that streak end hurts.

GlennMirnyi
08-01-2008, 08:04 PM
I don't want to live in a world where Nadal is #1.:sobbing:

Welcome to the club, honey.

guitarob
08-01-2008, 08:06 PM
I just hope it will be brief

BackhandMissile
08-01-2008, 08:09 PM
Sampras didn't start playing like a clown until his 30's. Another point for Pistol Pete.
Sampras had the mentality of a winner, he'd never give away a match, you had to beat him. Frauderer on the other hand...

As much as I liked the guy, and as highly as I rate him, I can't help mentioning the loss to Alami in '94 (Doha) and Leander Paes (that's right) in '98 (6-3 6-4, New Haven).

GlennMirnyi
08-01-2008, 08:10 PM
As much as I liked the guy, and as highly as I rate him, I can't help mentioning the loss to Alami in '94 (Doha) and Leander Paes (that's right) in '98 (6-3 6-4, New Haven).

Mate, please post only losses in big tournaments. We all know Pete only showed up 100% for GSs.

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 08:28 PM
Tired plea - Djokovic fans are not a single body nor do we speak with one voice. Some like Fed and loathe Rafa, some the reverse, a few dislike them both and some (like me) like and appreciate both Roger and Rafa. Most of us like and support other players as well as Nole. OK?

:yeah: Same goes for Roger and Rafa fans, btw. There are people existing who enjoy more than just one flavour of icecream. :D

scoobs
08-01-2008, 08:33 PM
:yeah: Same goes for Roger and Rafa fans, btw. There are people existing who enjoy more than just one flavour of icecream. :D
They can?

I thought it was, like, you know...Vanilla..Chocolate...PICK A SIDE!!!

:rolleyes: ;)

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 08:33 PM
Well, Rafa has achieved more than what Hewitt and Roddick have done combined. That speaks volumes about his level of play.

That is absolutely true, I only made that reference because when both Roddick and Hewitt were on the height of their career, people actually thought they would be 'unbeatable' for a far longer period than they actually turned out to be. I wasn't comparing their careers, I was comparing the way they were talked about. ;)

If he continues playing so many matches, he bound to mess his knees up, sad to say.

I hightly doubt this. Rafa has made vast improvements to his game, one of them being more aggressive and no longer just relying on his opponents' mistakes (yes, he used to do that, but those days are over! :D), so he is less forced to run like the Energizer Bunny like he used to do. IMHO, of course.

I'm not certain he will last too long in the no.1 position, but I have little doubt that he will continue dominating in clay for at least 2 more years.

I also believe he will win 1 more Wimbledon.

Fully agree with you here.

However, how long he will last (playing at a high level, not at the number 1 position) depends entirely on him, and which tournaments, and how many of them, he chooses to play.

Yes... the longelivity of a player's career very often depends (barring injuries and likewise disasters, of course) on an intelligent scheduling of tournaments. I expect him to drop a few 'lesser' tournaments next year, as he doesn't need to play those anymore.

Xenosys
08-01-2008, 08:36 PM
Neopolitan all the way. That way you get a bit of everything in scoop ;)

I honestly can't say I'm missing Federer, but then this thread/board is giving him more publicity when he loses as opposed to winning to it can't be that bad. Until he starts going out consistently in 1st/2nd round matches (and I think that'll not be for a few more years yet), I don't think he'll be missed by many.

10nisfan
08-01-2008, 08:36 PM
I don't want to live in a world where Nadal is #1.:sobbing:

well, you can always move to Mars or farther like Pluto... :lol:

PiggyGotRoasted
08-01-2008, 08:37 PM
:yeah: Same goes for Roger and Rafa fans, btw. There are people existing who enjoy more than just one flavour of icecream. :D

I agree.

I am a rafa fan, but also like federer and djokovic but davydenko more than any of them. I also strongly dislike nadal.

Xenosys
08-01-2008, 08:40 PM
I agree.

I am a rafa fan ... I also strongly dislike nadal.

It's make your mind up time ;) That's like saying your a fan of chocolate ice cream, but you dislike it as well, all in the one sentence.

Castafiore
08-01-2008, 08:41 PM
I don't want to live in a world where Nadal is #1.:sobbing:
If we survived Roddick as number one, you can survive this. Be brave. :hug:

Or you can always follow Clay Death's usual advice.

guitarob
08-01-2008, 08:41 PM
I agree.

I am a rafa fan, but also like federer and djokovic but davydenko more than any of them. I also strongly dislike nadal.

Thats the first time I see a rafa fan that dislikes nadal

10nisfan
08-01-2008, 08:42 PM
I agree. I am a rafa fan, but also like federer and djokovic but davydenko more than any of them. I also strongly dislike nadal.

isn't that contradictory?

10nisfan
08-01-2008, 08:44 PM
...Or you can always follow Clay Death's usual advice.

which is "Pray For Death!"?.. :lol:

Castafiore
08-01-2008, 08:46 PM
which is "Pray For Death!"?.. :lol:
;)

rocketassist
08-01-2008, 08:47 PM
His dominance was at times boringly predictable, but I do respect Federer's tennis, and his achievements, he's done the game a great service. So has Nadal, whilst his game may not be the most pleasing to my eye, is a born winner. Both men have class on and off court, where others close by trail by a huge gulf.

PiggyGotRoasted
08-01-2008, 08:50 PM
It's make your mind up time ;) That's like saying your a fan of chocolate ice cream, but you dislike it as well, all in the one sentence.
I strongly dislike chocolate ice cream, but I love chocolate :)
Thats the first time I see a rafa fan that dislikes nadal
Yeah, I do seem to be the only one.
I agree. I am a rafa fan, but also like federer and djokovic but davydenko more than any of them. I also strongly dislike nadal.

isn't that contradictory?
Nope :eek:

Sunset of Age
08-01-2008, 08:52 PM
They can?

I thought it was, like, you know...Vanilla..Chocolate...PICK A SIDE!!!

:rolleyes: ;)

To some it is. Not surprisingly, I like cassata.

If we survived Roddick as number one, you can survive this. Be brave. :hug:

:lol:

Or you can always follow Clay Death's usual advice.

Or ask FedFan_2007 to accompany you to that bridge where he still hasn't jumped off yet... :cool:

Clay Death
08-01-2008, 08:53 PM
If we survived Roddick as number one, you can survive this. Be brave. :hug:

Or you can always follow Clay Death's usual advice.

affirmative. just pray for death. fast death is always preferable to a slow one.

lot of people dont want to live in a world where the ultimate "doomsday stroking machine" is #1.

fortunately for those people, there is a way out of this world. just do it as the great Nike boss Phillip Knight has said so many times and his commercials remind you about 10 million times a day around the globe.

sheeter
08-01-2008, 08:56 PM
I'll miss when he is gone but he's not gone yet.

xelena
08-01-2008, 10:58 PM
well,well, this is one of the best topics ever:)) A must have on hd to read it offline , pass it on to new generations..
sojka look, I miss him already but some good news on the way. he'll be the flag bearer next weekk at the olympics plus a chance for a medal ??:) God is on our side.;)

raven gypsy
08-01-2008, 11:41 PM
Any time the potential for a Nadal-Fed match is gone, I miss that. Sorry but those two guys are still the best two players in the world (IMO) and I always look forward to them going at it. When one of them (usually Fed lately) is knocked out, I find the tournament loses a little something for me. As for the future, these guys have quite a few more battles left, in that respect, there's nothing to miss.

Really agree with your comments.

Yes, I miss Fed.
But, he'll be back........................:cool: